Jodi Arias Trial Rebuttal Winds Down: Fog, Fugue, Freed or Fraud- Are The Sex Pics From Months Before Travis Alexander’s Murder? Do They Show Arias Broke In?

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Phoenix,  AZ- Arguably the best psychological witness presented at trial, Dr. Janeen DeMarte, clinical psychologist, took the stand last week as the first witness in the State of Arizona’s rebuttal case in the trial of Jodi Arias for the murder of Travis Alexander.

In stark contrast to her previous behavior in court, Jodi Arias refused to look at Dr. DeMarte on the stand, and feverishly took notes or whispered to her attorney Jennifer Wilmott through the State’s direct examination of their witness.

With one exception.  When Dr. DeMarte was asked by Prosecutor Juan Martinez if Jodi Arias was a victim of domestic violence resulting in battered woman syndrome,  Ms. Arias looked up for DeMarte’s answer.  “No.”

After a battery of psychological tests were completed and scored, and approximately  12 hours of clinical interview with defendant Arias- Dr. DeMarte diagnosed Jodi Arias with Borderline Personality Disorder.  Dr. DeMarte had the added luxury of having her home vandalized and her laptop stolen following the start of the trial.  That information was not shared in open court.

Significant from a psychological evaluation perspective, Jodi Arias’ expert witnesses Alyce LaViolette and Dr. Samuels felt Arias was suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) as a result of the killing of Travis Alexander on June 4, 2008 at his home in Mesa, Arizona.  Only Samuels was licensed to test Arias similarly to DeMarte, and it appears the results were very different.   Samuels testified that he never re-tested Arias after he learned her accounts of June 4 were fabrications and that was an error on his part in his finding Arias suffered from PTSD.

Cross examination of Dr. DeMarte induced a migraine headache suffered by Arias (her 3rd since trial) although she is taking Imitrex for the condition.   Earlier in the day, Wilmott began her cross by repeatedly stating that DeMarte was practicing therapy without a license prior to her licensing exam, to which DeMarte responded “That is not correct, it is permitted under the supervision of a licensed psychologist, which I was.”

Wilmott went on to question DeMarte’s credentials specifically related to expertise in domestic violence and her current knowledge of the practices of Dr. Lenore Walker- largely considered the pioneer of domestic violence research and testing.  Walker’s work is novel within the psychological community in the area of the battered woman syndrome diagnosis.

Wilmott unsuccessfully tried to trip up DeMarte by suggesting that Walker no longer uses her own 6 point scale to include the possibility of battered woman syndrome to which DeMarte replied, “I would say that you are being inaccurate.”

DeMarte completed her testimony with very limited juror questions, although it was clear that a juror or two was not sold that Arias’ only disorder is BPD.

While DeMarte represented the State well in my opinion; Jodi Arias remains the round peg in the jello rhomboid to me.  Too many unanswered behavioral observations from a criminal profiling perspective to fit into the BPD mold.

Prior to the start of the State’s rebuttal case, defense counsel Kirk Nurmi recalled a witness for the defense who never made it into the witness list for trial, Mr. Bryan Neumiester.

In previous hearings where Neumiester appeared as an expert for the defense in the authentication of the May 10, 2008 phone sex recording made by Arias, the State agreed to a stipulation that it was indeed Travis Alexander’s voice on the tape, and that it was made on May 10.

In earlier testimony Juan Martinez elicited from Jodi Arias, Martinez accused her of recording the tape without Alexander’s permission or knowledge.  Arias was forced to admit that at no time is the fact that the conversation is being recorded heard mentioned by either party during the recording.  More on that recording in a bit.

Neumiester was able to magnify the very haunting last image of a live Travis Alexander’s face in the shower, specifically his iris, and gain agreement via stipulation that the reflective image contained therein is that of Jodi Arias.  She was not holding a gun or knife and the image was time-stamped correctly.

This was the second time Juan Martinez agreed to a stipulation from the same expert witness regarding the recorded media, both digital and audio in this case- outside the presence of the jury.

Mr. Neumiester is an expert witness for colleagues in Mr. Martinez’s own office as well as the Mesa Police Department.  Might suggest offsite meetings going forward.

The final witness listed for the State’s rebuttal case is an investigator for the Mesa County Police who specializes in computer forensics, Detective Robert Brown.    Detective Brown describes himself as a Computer Forensics Detective:

As a Digital Forensics expert, I possess attention to detail in my forensic capability, as well as the ability to explain complex technical concepts in a non-technical manner.

In the course of my regular duties, I also perform the following:

-Support ongoing internal investigations and litigation matters
-Utilize a variety of forensic tools (Encase, FTK, Helix, Cellebrite, Wireshark, etc.)
-Perform storage forensics (for example, hard drives, phones, USB storage)
-Perform network captures for traffic analysis
-File-system analysis and file carving (for example, to extract email, documents, and other trace evidence)
-Identifying , collection and analyzing electronic information, relevant to a case, incident or event of interest
-Establish timelines and patterns of activity of individuals and electronic devices and software
-Following forensically sound practices, including preserving chain of custody
-Efficiently and effectively report progress, risks and issues associated with assignments to varying levels of management

 

Following sound practices including preservation of chain of custody is looking like a welcome addition to this case.

In testimony from Detective Michael Melendez where the images allegedly taken by Travis’s camera were recovered from the deleted or unallocated portions of the memory stick via Encase software we learned that the infamous afternoon of highly graphic sex images of both Travis and Jodi that were dated and time-stamped on June 4th took place that afternoon prior to Travis’s murder.

Thus, making Jodi Arias an invited guest.

As an invited guest spending the day indelicato delicto, it certainly makes it difficult to prove the felony murder charge she is facing- and does not help the pre-meditation or murder in the first degree allegation because the basic motive is that Jodi went there to murder Travis because he was not going to take her to Cancun.   While certainly a possibility, I would offer that just about every psychological professional who sat across from Arias missed the fact that she literally saw her old boyfriends more than once along her trek that ended up with her last breakup.  Weird, yes.

Otherwise known as a raging sign of dependent personality disorder.

…” You are the worst thing that has ever happened to me…”

-Travis Alexander

 According to the text messages back and forth between Jodi and Travis the weeks prior to his murder, it was patently clear that Alexander wanted Arias out of his life for good.

Has what the state since learned after having Jodi on the stand under oath and repeated in cross examination opened the door to further investigation of the electronic media in this case in preparation for rebuttal?  Looks that way.

Keeping in mind that the phone sex recording was May 10th.  About a week later, Arias testified, she thought the phone was stolen.  She alleges it was found by her Aunt in 2010 in her grandfather’s car.  This would be the same aunt that she pointed out in court, and who has not been seen in court in weeks although she had attended daily.

Arias writes in her journal entry May 22, 2008 that there are several explicit photos on her stolen phone, and 2 recorded sex tapes.   In 2010, Arias though her attorneys, deliver this phone into evidence with no chain of custody information in a then 2 year old case.   Miraculously, this occurs just as Arias is moving from the “maybe not the ninja’s” defense.  From the defense perspective it has some statements from Alexander on it that they feel support’s their defense.  From the State’s perspective it proves that Arias was certainly very open to the sexual practices of the couple and never felt abused, nor was she put off by the comments by Alexander.

A win-win for both sides so why not agree to its stipulation, right?

Is this why Juan Martinez was hammering home the journal entry written about the “fruitful imaginations” the two explored, causing Arias to miss Lonnie’s christening?

The infamous sugar fest that takes place just before Arias allegedly walks in on Alexander in masturbatory behavior where some image of a boy lands at her feet on January 21st?  I note that one of the pictures allegedly from the June 4th date seems to show Alexander engaged in some self-satisfaction that ended with a surprise photo taken from the point of view of the chair next to him.

You’ll see where I am going with this momentarily.

Zulu Time Sex Chat

I have listened to the recording more times than one should have to,  and I note that within that conversation ( which is clearly edited, you can hear the fast forwards or dead time during the recording) the sexual tryst they discuss sounds very much like what was captured on the images as presented previously as occurring on June 4th.  If you have no concern about losing your lunch, it can be found here. Because of the nature of the material I am not quoting directly.

 

Graphic Warning, Sexually Explicit Material

Points in Conversation that Match Images

  1. Jodi discusses her fresh Brazilian and her being unsure if Travis would like that.  She mentions Travis wakes her up after she fell asleep in the chair by preforming a sex act on her.  There is no question that Jodi is freshly waxed in those images.
  2. Travis discusses the point of view shots of her “anatomy”.
  3. Jodi mentions that her hair was IN BRAIDS.   In the police interview Flores refers to them as pigtails and Jodi responds “Are you sure it’s me, pigtails?  They are not pigtails, they are braids and it is through this verbiage I believe we see Jodi restate that the pics are from another time.  She is adamant on that until unfortunately Flores gives it up he has those 2 pics taken from the scene accidently.
  4. Jodi asks Travis to check out her new profile pic, he does, tells her how photogenic she is, and at no time says… O, you changed your hair color to brown.  We know she took pics from her own camera May 10 and she was a brunette.  Arias testified her hair was brown prior to leaving Mesa.
  5. Travis mentions the introduction of KY into the relationship.  It is laying on the bed in the images, however, he says during the call when he is masturbating he is using Vaseline.
  6. Jodi mentions next time they have a photo session that she would like to have makeup on.  She has no makeup on in these images.
  7. In a very close-up point of view shot, it appears Ms. Arias is using her vaginal canal as a tootsie pop holder.  The tootsie pop incident occurs only once and prior to June 4th as it is discussed during the tootsietape.

 

I am aware that Det. Melendez says that the timestamps are from the image files, however, he never offers any explanation as to why some have it and many do not.  Nor is he asked how if Neumiester was able to pull EXIF data identifying the shower image as taken from Travis’s camera from a similarly deleted image, why he was not able to.   Likely why Mr. Neumiester was kept off the stand via the State’s agreement to the stipulation that has the legal community scratching its collective head.

My current thought bubble: Why would the prosecution take the murder weapons out of the hands of the suspect and in one fell swoop support her account of events as opposed to allowing Judge Stephens to rule on the Daubert hearing?

My current thought bubble response: Because it opens the door that has a little bottle labeled drink me on the other side.

Exhibit #215 Is Fat

No, not a person.  The blue SD card labeled exhibit #215, confirmed by the State by its two witnesses Heather Connor and Det Melendez to be the card where all deleted images were extracted.

Sony Duo SD

There’s just one problem with that.  Well, maybe two.  Connor stated it was located in the bottom of the washer along with the camera battery cover, which were separate from the camera itself.  In fact, one can see the battery pack in the camera from the image taken into the washer.

Melendez stated he found the card or memory stick inside the camera when he opened its cover door.

Duo v SD blue

How did it get there if he was the only one who handled it, and how does he account for the fact that it is definitely not compatible with Travis’s camera a Sony (insert model).

Travis’s camera used a proprietary Sony duopro memory stick which is thinner and rectangular, and included notches for locking the data contained on it.   The blue SD card cannot and does not fit inside the camera.

SO….

How does one account for the fact that there is only one card located in exhibit #215 and it is indeed now a Sony duopro, and it is NOT the same card pictured in the envelope presented by Thomas through prosecutor Juan Martinez.

As much as it pains me to say this- Jodi told them that herself and Det. Flores confirmed it during their interview on July 15, 2008.

Excerpted in pertinent part, my actual case bench notes from 4/2/13:

1:57 starts discussion on card- notes for review, upload and feedback

JA: To me pictures are very compelling but I know they can be modified, altered and I don’t know but I think date and time stamps can be tampered with.

Flores: we did not modify anything.  Say like a computer, we take a mirror copy of it, and we don’t even touch it…. That’s exactly what we do with the photos.  We don’t work with the originals and we make an exact duplicate copy and we work with the copy..And our guys are so good, that every case that I know of, has never been lost in court

(Note b: That sounds dangerously like no jury will ever convict me, ugh.)

8:34

Arias begins to ask Flores if they have her camera from storage.

Flores responds do you remember taking these pictures?

Arias: we took many pictures, vaguely

9:00

Arias in response to Flores saying they both deleted everything off both or all devices (sic) says prior to Travis getting his camera, all those pictures were on her camera.

Flores: All these same pictures?

Arias: I dunno, we took a bunch the week before I left

 

Arias: What I am asking is it possible that my memory card is in his camera? They are interchangeable.

(Note b: This may be why she needed the software and cord found in office.  Ref my observations that the cord image appears to have red staining, but was not marked for testing.  Imo, this is why she states they had sex on the desk. She knew her DNA from the cut would be there.)

Flores: How do you know they are interchangeable?

Arias: That’s why I am asking.

Flores: Just a regular ole standard SD card.

Arias: That’s why I am asking, cause I’ve got one that is like, this big (Note b: draws on his pad lefty)

For my professional camera it is like long and think like a cracker.  My other one is more like this big (note b: Draws but in context shown to be larger than the first.  She is indicating they are 2 different sizes.)

Flores: they are not interchangeable…His camera was here and your camera was there, why would those be on his camera?

Arias: My camera in storage that is broken but it is still there, I had several memory cards for it that I don’t have any more, and I guess what I am saying.

Flores: so are you saying all these pictures are on that camera?

Arias; no, it’s so farfetched but I guess it’s possible my card fits

Flores: So you’re saying maybe somebody took your memory card?

Arias: No, what I am saying is that if I left my memory cards at his house he could have used it in his camera. (Note b: This is prior to the trip to the big house.  Please note how incredibly detrimental it is to call your suspect on the phone and tell them about all your subpoenas and warrants coming her way six weeks earlier- tends to lead to destruction of evidence, witness tampering,  I could go on.)

 

Of particular interest, was Flores’s commentary that the experts on the hard drive and imaging testing (Melendez et al) have never lost a case where they presented evidence?

While that may be true, there was more than a few things he got wrong in that exchange.

  1. While on the stand initially calling the duopro card a SIM card, Melendez stated that SIM cards are smaller and primarily used in phones.   This is an incorrect explanation.  The storage format Martinez was referring to as a SIM is actually Micro SD.  However, no micro SD cards have been admitted into evidence at trial.
  2. In Flores’s interview,  he expressly stated that the analysts DID NOT work with the original card or cards in the case that they only make a copy, a mirror copy and work with that.  Again, incorrect as we heard Melendez testify that he could not read the card removed until he placed the card directly into his “forensic machine”.  No copy was ever made and the images recovered consisted then of deleted and non-deleted items from the card Melendez testified he removed from Travis’s camera himself.

Is it possible Jodi is correct, and Travis had an SD card from her camera and that was the camera used to shoot the tawdry tryst? Whereby he subsequently loaded the amateur effort himself onto the duopro card via the USB attachment and software loaded on his computer?  If indeed Melendez was able to recover the deleted images from the duopro card, this would account for why the romp images were on his camera card although Travis and Jodi had not seen each other since its purchase.

Travis also had a Sony video camera that would also use a Sony duopro card enabling him to use the one he had in both.  Travis’s video camera has not been referenced as evidence or an exhibit in the trial to date.

Potentially solving the dilemma of how the images get on Travis’s camera- if in fact they predate June 4th  unfortunately does not address either how two of the state’s own witnesses testify differently about the same pieces of evidence that cannot possibly be the same storage device or the problems in chain of custody of same.

If Jodi was not the invited guest she claims she was as evidenced previously by the pictures thought to be taken on June 4th, what was she doing there exactly?

Did Travis Alexander even know she was in the house before he spots her holding something other than a gun or knife as he looks out of the shower for the last time?

Travis’s roommate Enrique’s statement to Flores seems to support the theory that at the very least, he was not aware Jodi was in the home when he spoke to Travis that morning and Travis shared he had not gotten any sleep.  During her interview Jodi knew nothing of the new second roommate (until Flores outright told her about him and that he was at work) but she definitely would have if she came in through the garage because his car was parked in it.

Does this lend credence to the screen outside being removed by Jodi to the office window laying on the ground for entrance purposes?

Court resumes tomorrow after a closed hearing today.  With the general public consensus after a nearly 4 month trial that most are no closer to the truth about what actually happened at casa de alexander on June 4, 2008 other than the outcome, this jury has its work cut out for them.

Please join me this evening discussing this case on THE DANA PRETZER SHOW- LIVE at 9PM EST.

 

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486 Comments

  1. Indahlia says:

    @ Word Girl

    Thanks so much for the tip about the Google site. I’ve been there now, tried the mapping app and am impressed with the usability of the mapping function. I found the link function easily and will use it in the future when I need to post a map.

    Appreciate your helpfulness.

    Inda

  2. susanm says:

    i wonder what charge the female character in Last Tango In Paris ,wouldve gotten for shooting marlon brando’s character.the role traumitized her, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Schneider_(actress). jodi role plays. ——————— did she go to travis’s to steal her naked photos ,back,or to even the score and get naked photos of him? if he had agreed to the shower photos ,wouldnt he be worried she’d shoot low and get the money shot. if photos are on the internal memory of the camera ,they can be copied to the memory card,she was doing something ,with the camera, to get the accidental shots,-the one of her leg-.

  3. Word Girl says:

    hey, inda, glad it worked. I’m learning every day I try stuff on the computer!
    Right now a spooling error is killing me. I’ve fixed it before but now, oh, no. Looks like i’ll be doing expensive printing today . lol

    Sue–I loved your concise summation of JA’s motive. Right on. We all have the potential for that, I believe. Most of us are able to release and move on without rage brewing up in us to that level.

    Grace, et al, I am grateful to understand the semantics within the professions. Literal interpretations of words is not what I’m really about. I just enjoy them. Playful little critters. (Yeah, I’m off my nod this a.m.)

  4. kat says:

    Deciding on the death penalty for Jodi Arias is not creating another victim. Travis Alexander is the victim. He and his family deserve justice. If there was ever a case that warrants the death penalty, this is it.

  5. GraceintheHills says:

    lyla says:

    April 27, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    @Blink)
    (snipped)”The right defense counsel under AZ law, SHOULD have vior dired him on cross the second he mentioned that he mentioned his opinions as it related to ANYTHING outside of support from the autopsy findings. Yes, he is an MD, and yes, he is an ME, but outside of findings that would extend from something in his autopsy report, he never should have been permitted to render an opinion on brain damage his own damn report says Travis Alexander did not have due to the decomposition.”
    —————————————————————
    Could the defense counsel have called in an independent ME to refute Horn’s testimony?
    Yes, and given where he went they should have anticipated it, and called one. The problem with that is that there is no real advantage to parse out the wound pattern when your defendant claims to be in a fog. It can dilute the fog into selective murk.

    B
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I agree, Blink. Additionally, I think bringing in another ME to rebut Dr. Horn’s opinions would have given Mr. Martinez yet another opportunity to bring those horrific crime scene and autopsy photos before the jury.

    Yes, agreed Grace. Except that I do not believe that JM has enough experience to effectively challenge or raise the bar of a defense ME expert nor his own.

    High profile is the game changer of zero to hero and hero to zero.

    With a defedant on the stand for 38 days, I have no idea why it seems this is still anybody’s verdict. I say verdict, but I have only mild optimism there will be one here.

    B

  6. lyla says:

    Jden says:
    April 27, 2013 at 7:19 pm
    “I have not recovered from the testimony of the ME that Travis was alive when his throat was slit. My God.”
    —————————————————————–
    29 stab wounds, shot to the head, slit throat to the spine..humane??

    “Jurors in the trial of Jodi Arias, charged in the stabbing and shooting death of her lover, watched a videotaped interrogation of the suspect Wednesday during which she insists she didn’t kill him, but says if she had, she would have killed him quickly and humanely.”

  7. Christy says:

    Blink…excellent post. This case is a cluster eff of oddities for sure.

    JA sure deserves at the least a lifetime in a very small secluded cell and the spotlight she is enjoying entirely too much. Best justice of course, would be a short trip to the death chamber.
    She sickens me.

    I have such a heart for Travis’ beautiful family.

    Again, B….great post, stay safe and keep checking in with us.

  8. Rose says:

    @Cadillac. is self-def her defense? I’ve come late & don’t know.
    I thought the Defense posture is the charge is Pre-med murder, and she is trying to prove while
    she committed murder, it was not pre-meditated. Rather it was heat of passion (fear)
    due to her state of mind as affected by ptsd &/previous “domesric violence”
    ( making the fear reasonable). har de har to that.

  9. pale rider says:

    Conflict of PTSD in case in chief by rebuttal witness = surrebuttal witness.

    B
    ~~~~~~~~

    I guess I don’t understand what the conflict is. Of course, the PT were going to argue no PTSD, no BWS.

    I don’t see any new testimony from Dr. D. Samuels said he dx the defendant with personality disorder, NOS. Dr. D took it a step further. She discounted the PTSD and BWS claims, as we knew she would.

    To me, it looks like Geffner is being called to be a cheerleader for ALV, who completely lacked credibility and impartiality.

    Surely the DT knew of Dr. D’s testimony; they had her report. This is a very lame attempt, imo, and does not meet the standard for surrebuttal.

    I expect to hear nothing new from this witness that differs from what ALV tried to sell earlier. And his affiliations with ALV are suspect.

    conflict meaning different or conflicting opinion pale rider, I certainly should have expanded on that, so I apologize.

    This is her Honor’s first death penalty case. She is an elected judge. This is a high profile case. I posted a link a few weeks back on an overturned verdict by the pre-trial judge in this case, Judge Duncan. She should be erring on the side of caution and frankly slant to the defense because there are already enough appellate issues here, imo.

    Nothing like being handed the hot potato and be made to hold it.

    B

  10. Cadillac says:

    @Rose

    Yes, she is claiming it was self defense. She claims she was taking photos of him, in the shower, and she dropped his brand new camera, He came from the shower, cursed her and tackled her and used the words “kill you”.

    She then heinously murdered him because she was afraid he was going to take her life over the dropping of this camera. (Insert an emo that rolls it’s eyes)

    I don’t think the defense claim ever was heat of passion – maybe someone can clarify the difference there?

    She had to come up with something after the “I wasn’t there story- number one” and the “ninjas killed him and spared me story – number two”.

    She is truly a piece of work.

    The defense claim is indeed “heat of passion” , at least in terms of the latest motion to include same in jury instruction. That ruling has not been announced. But I wonder if Judge Stephens thought bubble was “How badly do I want to avoid a mistrial in my first death penalty case?”

    B

  11. JEEZ! says:

    Just read this entire thread and your assessment of the video card discrepancies seems to be of MAJOR importance to sealing the deal for the Prosecution. Martinez seems extremely capable, but if, as you say he is not an expert in camera technology then wouldn’t someone on his team be smart enough to catch what you did?

    ….and if so can they be waiting until the closing arguments to bring up this crucial evidence of Travis Alexander never knowing she was in his home that day and the retrieved card was compromised in chain of custody. There fore the sex pictures were NOT from that day??

    It may be that there are chain of custody issues that become a problem.

    To be honest, I considered that heavily before publishing the piece. That said, it needs to be dealt with NOW, and not overturn a verdict, because in my opinion, it has every potential to and that is not ok.

    B

  12. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Word Girl

    Check the amount of disk space allocated to the spooler. If it is too small, there will be a spooler overrun causing missing print jobs.

    If that doesn’t fix it, try reloading the spooler software. It is not a core component of an operating system. Go out to Microsoft, if Windows, and search the knowledge base for information about the spooler. If it is OSX from Apple, they should have something similar.

  13. Rose says:

    @JEEZ. I believe one can only argue in closing from the evidence that’s admitted.
    P wouldn’t bring anything new up then.

    OT. In terms of BPD or other PD, think Tsarnaev mom.
    Imo her acting out against US thru the sons thing happened after she was arrested &
    had to leave US to avoid trial. (How dare the US accuse me of stealing my fine clothes.) Imo since that arrest, twas a revenge motif on US LE stimulated by mom. (Includes her history of high conflict with srs in law & husband & lack of job hx.)

  14. pale rider says:

    conflict meaning different or conflicting opinion pale rider, I certainly should have expanded on that, so I apologize.

    This is her Honor’s first death penalty case. She is an elected judge. This is a high profile case. I posted a link a few weeks back on an overturned verdict by the pre-trial judge in this case, Judge Duncan. She should be erring on the side of caution and frankly slant to the defense because there are already enough appellate issues here, imo.

    ~~~~~~~~~~

    Oh, hon, no apolly please! ITA, Judge Sherry must err on side of caution, and thanks for the clarification!!!

  15. Jden says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXI7be-iTHI

    This is a quite interesting visual of Arias’ account of the killing and how her timeline is not possible.

    How The TIMELINE is not possible as the State presents as well. Good video at the link, thank you
    B

  16. whodunnit says:

    Okay, here is my rant. Gotta get it off my chest…

    The defense knows that the jury now has proof that they have been lied to directly by Arias. The infamous gas can testimony.
    The evidence of pre med is circumstantial. If the jury gets the instruction that if any testimony given by a defendant or witness is a lie, they are therefore ” allowed” to disregard that lie or ALL of the testimony from that witness, it is easier to put together the prosecution theory. and convict her of pre med or murder one.
    The defense is betting that even those jurors who would vote for DP Arias would acquiesce to heat of passion, and be done with it.

    But what about the alibis and the carefully constructed scenarios that Arias claimed for years? Remember that Arias denied any personal fault until JUNE 22 , 2010. That was almost TWO YEARS of maintaing it was done by ninjas.
    It was only when Arias submitted the alledged letters from Travis, that things changed. Arias would not meet the laws regarding evidence, would not submit original letters and would not name the source of the electronic copies she had, The judge denied their admittance. It was in arguing for the admittance of the letters that we see the first step into a claim of self defense. She claimed at THAT time,that the letters MUST be admitted as evidence because it was crucial to her case, and that began the “evolution” of her story, that she was now changing her position to self defense.
    This woman had TWO years to develop a way to defend herself- imagine if this group of posters had the same amount of hard evidence, and the ONLY thing we had to do was connect the dot to alleviate guilt in a way that matched the scant evidence.
    Without those photos and ONE hand print and two strands of hair, it would have been nearly impossible to even place her in the crime scene.
    I can not fathom any other reason that she would lie so much for so long and go to such great lengths to avoid being connected to Travis’s death, unless it was her full intention to kill him and get away with it in the first place!
    This ” social science ” class of trying to figure out WHY she did it is driving everyone crazy. ( and to me, best definition of a crazy person is that they make everyone they are involved with crazy, lol) This is a criminal law case, not a human behavior lecture with a quiz after.
    WHY a person did something is different than HOW a person did something, and that should be what Arias is being judged for. The crime itself is beyond reason, period.She accomplished this crime by being methodical, obscuring her involvement in every possible way. It is not co incidental. It walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it IS a duck.

    Here is something that we have never touched on- Travis agreed to sell Arias his car for well under list price. But she didn’t put it in gear when she towed it, so the car was basically ruined. She owed him alot of money. I think she used this as yet another means of keeping in contact with him. Don’t forget she had a check with her on June 4th, and that she asked someone at the memorial if he had cashed it! For all we know, she could have said she was going to drop by and give him some of the money she owed him, on her way to Salt Lake City, with some seduction chatter thrown in. Even if she dint walk in the door planning to kill him, pre- med in Arizons does not require a set amount of time, it only requires reflection that ones actions may result in death. She decided to pick up a gun and point it at him.
    I maintain that if she DIDNT have a weapon when she took that photo of him, all the more evidence that she made the decision to GET the gun, instead of fleeing.
    She owed him money for his car that she wrecked, hacked his emails, she intercepted texts to him, she hacked his face book, she read his journals, she played upon Travis’ inability to understand that her ” unconditional love” was actually obsession, that she would never be ” just a friend with benefits” no matter what she claimed. She held his sex life with her over his head as a threat to ruin him within the church and professionally. It was Travis’s innocence that wouldn’t let him imagine the depths of her depravity- she carefully presented herself as a willing sex fantasy partner who ” only wanted the best for him”., and he bought it.
    There is nothing in his past that showed him to be the kind of person who would have others take on handling problems Arias, instead of doing it all himself. There is no evidence of him being revengful aginst people who had wronged him, or of being litigious , suing law enforcement – when his tires were slashed, he DID call the police, but they took so long to get there, he opted to just get new toires instead. ( The police Do have a record of his call) My point is that he was not the kind of person who thought he had any problems that he couldn’t handle by himself , and it was a source of pride for him to handle the challenges life presented, by himself.
    I am sure he couldn’t imagine that he would have needed a restraining order to deal with her, because every time he called her on her BS, she apologized and ” humbled herself” , had sex with him professing it was all in the name of this great love she had for him.
    She manipulated him, and he had no idea- how could he, or anyone- have imagined this heinous end unless they were as depraved as Arias? Travis wasn’t depraved, so he couldn’t see it coming. ( look to ALV’s testimony for that logic)
    The defense is saying that Travis was an awful horrible person, and that Arias was a good person who was just reacting to a monster. But seriously, what did Travis do? He wrote her emails with nasty language. he rejected her again and again. Does this empower Arias to murder him? if you buy the defense line of reasoning, it does.
    The defense has turned Arias into a victim and taken away any right that Travis had to express the anger he felt toward her, down to trying to categorize the language he used in emails as so abusive that it caused her to believe he would kill her when she dropped his camera.They are asking the jury to be lenient with Arias because she was “damaged” by his rejection and the harsh words he used in reaction to HER actions, while demanding at the same time for the jury to withold all compassion in understanding what motivated Travis to behave the way he did with her.

    Here is what ” heat of passion is all about- it cancels out pre- med:

    MURDER, MANSLAUGHTER & NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE IN ARIZONA
    13-1101. Definitions
    In this chapter, unless the context otherwise requires:
    “Premeditation” means that the defendant acts with either the intention or the knowledge that he will kill another human being, when such intention or knowledge precedes the killing by any length of time to permit reflection. Proof of actual reflection is not required, but an act is not done with premeditation if it is the instant effect of a sudden quarrel or heat of passion.

    ———————————————————-
    So the motion for heat of passion is: the defense is asking the jury to believe that the ” sudden quarrel or heat of passion” was about the camera. All their witness testimony is to get the jury to believe that in Arias’ mind, Travis was going to kill her at that instant.
    If she had claimed this from the start, it would be a different case. But due to lack of rock solid forensics, it is all about her lying.

    She shouldn’t be allowed back into society. She has nothing in her past that shows she had done anything charitable, ever, or even by the age of 27 had ever taken full financial responsibility for herself, let alone another person. Not ONE example of a selfless act. Is there ANYTHING in this woman’s life that attests to any contribution to society in any way?
    Compare the life of the man she murdered with hers. Did she have the right to kill him, specifically in the way she did, under any circumstances? If the jury gives her anything less than lwop, the ” abuse excuse” has been perverted beyond its genesis.

  17. Jden says:

    Have you’all seen this? IDK, I think there are some excellent points here.

    Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoQoF-UE6I8

    Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CskWKO3gW2E

  18. Inda says:

    Is it possible Jodi is correct, and Travis had an SD card from her camera and that was the camera used to shoot the tawdry tryst? Whereby he subsequently loaded the amateur effort himself onto the duopro card via the USB attachment and software loaded on his computer? If indeed Melendez was able to recover the deleted images from the duopro card, this would account for why the romp images were on his camera card although Travis and Jodi had not seen each other since its purchase.

    If Travis loaded the pictures onto his duopro card, who changed the date and time stamp?

    The time stamp may be in question overall, and it could also be from the time it was deleted- the point is it is corrupt from an evidence perspective.
    B

  19. whodunnit says:

    jden
    Thanks for those youtubes links, it was really compelling. I had lost track of her explanatiuon of rthe trip as being to take photographs, that was a real eye opener. I hope the State can present everything as cohesively.

  20. Eloise says:

    Good rant Who

  21. Ode says:

    I watched a movie last week “Too Young To Die” made in 1990. It was a story about a “girl” who was being tried for murder of her former lover. It was based on a true story about Attina Marie Cannaday. What caught my attention (besides Brad Pitt) was in the movie she stabbed and then slit her former lovers throat. The crux of the show was she was only 15 when she murdered this man. She was up for the Death Penalty, found guilty and sentenced to die. I had spent much time trying to find a woman who murdered someone by slitting his throat and here it was presented in this movie. I did spend some time looking at the original case and it really is uncertain if she or another one of her lovers actually killed the victim. They were both at the crime scene. Anywho her sentence was overturned and she was re-sentenced to life in prison and 25 years. She was paroled in May 2008. I did find a mugshot of her from 2012 but am uncertain as to what the charge was. Apparently she did not stay out of trouble.

  22. Indahlia says:

    Ode says, “I had spent much time trying to find a woman who murdered someone by slitting his throat and here it was presented in this movie. I did spend some time looking at the original case and it really is uncertain if she or another one of her lovers actually killed the victim. They were both at the crime scene.

    Very interesting. There are things about thiscase that would be more easily explained if Arias had picked up a former boyfriend along her way to assist her in the killing. As it is it seems there
    is no evidence of this.

  23. first-time says:

    whodunnit says:

    April 28, 2013 at 11:17 pm
    _______

    Exactly.

  24. Jden says:

    Seeing the route map was huge for me. I feel that, combined with the gas cans and cell phone off-grid, notwithstanding the TA text message and the robbery, hair coloring, vehicle color request, etc. we have clear pre-meditation.

    What was the purpose of the trip? Baby photography? No appointment. Photography? No photos taken. Ryan Burns? 2100 miles out of the way. Murder in Mesa? Check.

    Arias (had her nails done) at a salon in Salinas, the town in which her family lived before settling in Yreka. This took 3 hours. In 3 hours she could have had nails, hair color and brazilian wax completed. Or, she could have had just hair color. If a colorist is working more than one client at a time, it takes 3 hours.
    Is it prudent to subpoena the records from salons in Salinas for June 3? What if a receipt for hair coloring in Arias’ name could be uncovered?

    Why were there deposits made into 3 different bank accounts? One for business, one personal… and? Did Darrell give Arias the $800 at breakfast? He did NOT want to admit recalling her asking a favor but when asked directly about her call for gas cans he hesitantly whispered “yes”. Methinks Mr. Brewer knows more than he wishes to.

    Travis was her ticket up. Handsome man, fancy car, travel, beautiful home, notoriety. When he took all that away, including the car, he was now a hindrance. Not even so much the Cancun trip, I feel that his message calling her out was what set her off.

    So, camera experts… do I read this correctly that the date stamps could have simply been resultant from the date/time the photos were deleted? That makes more sense because I, like Blink, feel that the bed romp were a previous date. Her hair in the bed romp photos is medium brown, not the deep, rich color that JM revealed from the cell phone picture. I have never seen a photo of her with Travis with her hair as dark as in the cell phone pictures.

  25. Jden says:

    Credit card statement for Arias shows gas in SLC, then tire shop in Yreka, Quick Stuff and Priceline.com in the amount of $246.99 and $28.00 for possibly airport shuttle or parking. Currently I see cheap rates online Sacramento to Cancun for $237.00.

    Kind of an OT site, but where I found the cc statement:
    http://therese-a-saurus.blogspot.com/2013/03/jurors-ask-hey-jodi-arias-why-should-we.html

  26. GeorgiaDad says:

    “The Truth, the Whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth” is missing from this trial.

    Both the prosecution and the defense have trial strategies that involve limiting important information.

    For example, the pictures. There is a ton of information in the EXIF data of the pictures (if available), and an expert could analyze this for evidence of tampering. Even if the EXIF data is absent, an expert could probably analyze the actual jpg content, resolution, and file sizes to determine if the images were taken wit TA’s camera. JA would know about changing EXIF data, but has never come across as a detail oriented person, and I doubt she could modify these images without leaving some trail. As far as I know, these images were not really analyzed. Why? The prosecution’s sole uses for the pictures are to place JA at the scene at the time of the crime, provide shock value and possibly lead some jurors to see her as a woman of lesser moral character. The defense uses the pictures to show 2 sexually intimate people having a good time, and suggest that TA was into porn. JA went there to please her man not to kill him.

    The timeline. We KNOW very little of the the events of the murder. I believe he was shot first. A low velocity small missile (the missile is the part of the bullet that lies through the air) travelling along the projected path would not necessarily be fatal. In fact the missile’s path is similar to that of the Phineas Gage case. He was likely dazed and confused but still able to function. What happened after that is a “fog” to all of us, not just JA. Did JA bring a knife or knives or did she leave the room and grab one from the kitchen? Did she use multiple knives? Why drag him back to the shower? Apparently neither side finds this information useful. The prosecution only seeks to prove that she shot, stabbed and sliced him. The defense argues she doesn’t remember.

    Hopefully, one day, all the information will be made available, and we will have a better knowledge of what actually transpired.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Gage

  27. lyla says:

    The link below: Some of the jurors questions and Jodi’s answers while she was on the stand. Note the issue of the gun. In one of the interrogation videos she told Flores Travis did NOT own a gun.

    http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/04/trial-blunder-17-jury-questions-tripped-up-jodi-arias/

  28. GeorgiaDad says:

    One other point about the photos. If they come up as an issue in the trial, or a retrial is ordered, JM’s theatrics of dropping the camera on the floor has potentially contaminated evidence. Also, the expert witness admits to breaking off the shutter release.

  29. whodunnit says:

    PLEASE- I DO NOT want to start a flame out!
    But in looking at Alyce laViolette’s twitter, I was affected by this latest one:

    Alyce LaViolette ‏@AlyceLaViolette 27 Apr
    Whomever made that video will burn.

    This tweet was in reference to a truly distasteful video on youtube, someone sent her the link. ( dont bother finding it , the video is not the point, the point is her reaction)
    The fact that she posted the comment ” whomever made that video will burn” is alarming to me.

    These are words that are vengeful and full of rage. She could have easily risen above and disregarded the whole thing, deleted the tweet she got about the video in the first place.

    Why would someone use this type of language? Because she is reacting to something that bothered her.

    She denigrated Travis for his im’s, emails etc.
    If Travis would have written ” whomever made this video will burn” would she have used that as proof that he was capable of killing someone?

    Are we positive that is ALV’s twitter account?
    B

    I am really concerned

  30. susanm says:

    Ode says, “I had spent much time trying to find a woman who murdered someone by slitting his throat and here it was presented in this movie. I did spend some time looking at the original case and it really is uncertain if she or another one of her lovers actually killed the victim. They were both at the crime scene.

    Very interesting. There are things about thiscase that would be more easily explained if Arias had picked up a former boyfriend along her way to assist her in the killing.

    i agree, i find the le interrogation tales,strangely telling at times, in one she very eerily ,out of context of the question, states , i drove to arizona alone.it caused pause for me.but , with no evidence , that’s where i am assigning the concept of animus,the over stabbing ,domination and slitting of a wrestler .line backer and snowmobile deflecting roller,and seems so male.just cuts on her fingers ,maybe she did have some bruises, no one saw.. i’m stuck on soft premeditation and cloodblooded premediation,but under the jury instructions and jury discourse i could go 2 nd deegree or v. manslaughter. the prosecution is muddy, i cant follow the timelines,its so confusing it needs a user manual with charts.but i think arizona has suceeded in getting the messsage out- dont come killing in arizona . i caughtthe interview with travis’s sister,was finally able to break the lump in my throat,and express my sympathy.jodi wasnt dating the real travis alexander , she was dating his wig wearing snakey salesman foulmouth – alterego ,Snel,who jokingly flips and body slams people when they dont want to buy ppl.

  31. Inda says:

    What it make a difference to the discussion concerning the integrity of the photographic evidence if the memory stick admitted into evidence fit the Sony camera? I’m referring to exhibit number 215. Because if you look closely at the picture you have posted, exhibit number 215, it is a memory stick Pro duo.

    Check here for comparison purposes: http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/ajdv/2571941922/

  32. Inda says:

    whodunnit says:
    April 28, 2013 at 11:17 pm

    I find myself wishing you could be there with the jury when they begin their deliberation just to deliver your rant. Great!

  33. Twinkletoes says:

    Blink, are you and/or your team following the murder of Leila Fowler? http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/29/us/california-stabbing-death/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
    It doesn’t seem like anyone is giving it much analysis yet. Poor little girl. RIP.

  34. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Who

    A long rant about the things that really matter. You didn’t mean that Jodi failed to put the BMW in gear. Leaving it in gear is what destroyed the transmission and engine. This alone could have been the reason that Jodi decided to kill Travis. The car was destroyed and she was left owing a lot of money.

    Since Jodi cannot or will not tell the truth, everyone is guessing at the motive. There are probably more than one. It was a planned event for Jodi.

    At this point I believe that she sneaked into Mesa, gained entry through the window at the office, did some things to the camera memory card with the her existing memory card and then she heard him upstairs with the shower running. Taking the camera, the knife and the stolen .25 cal. gun, she went upstairs to make Travis pay for pushing her away and leaving her with a big expense because of the car.

    I really do not believe the time stamps on the memory cards. She could have been there hours earlier. The time and date are not difficult to change.

    Did the police question any of the neighbors after finding Travis deceased? We don’t know. Sometimes neighbors are not very observant regarding who and what vehicles might be in the neighborhood.

  35. MH says:

    The number of bars do match. My Duo Pro has 10 bars, as the one in the link below has, as the one in evidence has
    http://www.mydigitallife.us/flash%20005.JPG

    Oh dear, I was being facetious and a little snark. The blue card in evidence is not a Sony duopro memory stick.
    B

  36. Ode says:

    I found this today when looking some more about BJ. If this is not ok to post let me know. So is BJ alive?

    I am not posting that person’s twitter links for the time being, a ton of unsourced and unverified info presented as fact. However, to my knowledge Mr. Juarez is alive.
    B

  37. lyla says:

    Alyce Laviolette Twitter

    Yep, it’s her and here’s the video of Travis.

    https://twitter.com/AlyceLaViolette

    It does appear to be her without independent verification. I am not familiar with twitter as a therapeutic or abuse management tool, I don’t even know what to say about a statement about someone burning if this is her. Seems to me a social forum is a great place to open a conversation about anti-domestic violence. Not carcinogens.

    I am not posting the link to that puketube. There ought to be a sobriety test before someone can post to the web, apparently.
    B

  38. lyla says:

    Blink, feel free to pull the youtube video of Travis. My sincere apologies to all for posting it.

    I did Lyla, I know you were just bringing information and backing it up with links as is my policy, no worries.
    B

  39. The Only Non-Idiot Here says:

    Dear author of this shitty blog,

    Please STOP with all of your poor attempts at speculating anything about this case. I don’t think I’ve seen this much misinformation in one place since that one time I checked out infowars.com. There was no tootsie pop in her vag in the pics taken the day of the murder. They are TIME STAMPED separately from the time stamping function that one can control on the camera. They were proven to have been taken that day. Also, Jodi is not a lefty, she’s ambidextrous. She’s said this on the stand and we’ve seen her use both of her hands to write/draw. Quit being a dumbass.

    And to anyone reading this shitshow of a blog, don’t take ANY of it seriously. There are plenty of places to get legitimate info on this case and not some delusional moron’s speculations.

    Does somebody need a hug?

    Here-

    (((((HUG)))))
    B

  40. whodunnit says:

    Blink writes:

    Are we positive that is ALV’s twitter account?
    B

    GOOD question, and I should have asked my self that before i posted.It looked real to me, and I am sure it looks real to others but- it is possible that it is just an account that has used her name. I have done some research to see if it is authentic – here goes:

    Short answer-
    there is no way at present to verify if either this account or another one,under ADLaViolette , is authentic. Neither of them have the verification badge from Twitter that certifies authenticity.( a checkmark next to name) I apologize, I should have been more mindful and shouldn’t have gotten suckered.

    Long story:
    High profile people will often seek verification, in order to make sure traffic goes to the right place.

    There are criteria that must be met in oder to get the Verification Badge from Twitter.. (It is not given to the general public )
    Twitter suggests that if you don’t meet the criteria, or are waiting for verification, in the meantime you can offer a ” type of verification” by including link to your web site etc.
    Both of these accounts DO list alycelaviolette.com as a reference.
    but still…

    here are deets about verifying twitter accounts
    https://support.twitter.com/articles/119135-faqs-about-verified-accounts

    So long story short, this may be a rabbit hole. But bottom line is that this kind of stuff is being filtered through social network, and it ain’t pretty. This trial is bringing up so many issues about our society as it is today… boggles the mind.

  41. whodunnit says:

    ATG-
    Thanks for the clarification about the car being in gear! ( I am a midwesterner who grew up driving anything with an engine but still cant get my car facts straight!)
    In your theory- you write:
    At this point I believe that she sneaked into Mesa, gained entry through the window at the office,

    Sunset in Phoenix in June is around 7:30… Travis roomate came back to the house at around six thrity June 4th.
    She claims she took the gun and the rope after she murdered him.. She claims that later, she came out of a fog when she looked down and saw blood. Would she have walked out in daylight, bloddied, holding this evidence. gone to a car parked on the street or in the driveway?
    Or would she have used the access code to the garage that she had, to pull her car in and initially gain entrance in that way?
    I think it is possible that Arias entered through the garage. Then got booted out, left through the front door, and RE-entered through the window. Just a thought.

  42. Malty says:

    Blink are we going see the penalty part Of this case when it gets there
    Or will our view end with the verdict

    Malty I believe the aggravation phase will be televised. That if she is convicted.

    B

  43. Rose says:

    After a 500 mile drive today (the mind boggles at 2,300 plus in 2), this delusional moron (msw, jd) SPECULATES that the hug recipient is someone with a personal relationship with defendant, although my fantasy is these sentiments would be akin to Wilmott’s if she read here. I cannot imagine 2,300 mi combined with even tepid sex with photos. .
    Whether the sex pics were Proven taken that day will be a jury question.

  44. Rose says:

    with only 12 tweets, and opened recently I find it very hard to credit that’s ALV.
    And with only 12 tweets, & that many followers? The twitter account holder
    cued a bunch of passionate followers of some cause to sign up now imo to create credibility
    for this account.

  45. Rose says:

    the other twitter acct, founded about the same time, with 10 tweets is also a spoof imo.
    The first account, with 12, has followers such as needlefor..arias. I clicked on one if the 600–a passionate follower of a number of criminal trials, she comments on yellow journalism & mentions impersonating on the web is a crime. I do hope ALV involves the fbi trackng these twitter spoofers then sues for harm to business.

  46. Mom3.0 says:

    Blink this article was very interesting and it took me forever to think it through-

    I appreciate just how long and hard you and your team must have worked
    to compile this and to give us all so much to think about Thank you

    wow so much to ponder – Ill share some more detailed thoughts soon.

    First just wanted you to know -you accidentally forgot to insert the make/model of Travis’ camera it was

    Sony DSC-H7

    I have a couple of questions I hope you can help me with

    You wrote:

    How does one account for the fact that there is only one card located in exhibit #215 and it is indeed now a Sony duopro, and it is NOT the same card pictured in the envelope presented by Thomas through prosecutor Juan Martinez.

    Blink who is Thomas?
    Do you mean Melendez? Or Connor? Did I miss a very important witness?

    I went back and reviewed Connors testimony as well as Melendez and it appears to be the same card being discussed by both witnesses am i missing it because I dont know who Thomas is? can you point me to the testimony and or the switch/difference in cards?-

    –TIA
    AJMO

    Mom 3.0, thank you for bringing this to my attention, I am reviewing now. I think the published piece reverted to the pre-edited copy if that is what you are seeing.

    It is Heather Connor, not Thomas, and Travis’s camera was to be inserted with a hyperlink, but his camera is the model H9 not H7, just for clarification purposes.

    B

  47. JB says:

    Blink, I’m confused. Reading the comments and stuff, it seems like you’re all watching this on tv like everyone else.

    You actually went to the trial right?

    Seems we have a troll in the midst. I allow one username only and zero tolerance of stalking.
    Tally Ho :)
    B

  48. Jden says:

    Rose, Alv clearly stated she is not online technically speaking so a Twitter acct for her would be new.

  49. lyla says:

    Look at the similarities particularly jealousy and sex abuse issues.

    “Jurors found Catherine Kieu guilty of torture and aggravated mayhem for the July 11, 2011, attack.”

    http://www.mydesert.com/viewart/20130429/NEWS0802/304290031/Guilty-verdict-severed-penis-case

  50. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Rose

    You are right about the amount of mileage in a short amount of time. It takes someone with a lot of determination to drive over 600 miles in a day. I have not driven one of the little Fords that Jodi rented. However, most small cars IMO are difficult to drive over long distances due to the short wheelbase. The short wheelbase causes the vehicle to rock and bounce on the highway producing body stress.

    We do have to remember that Jodi was in her twenties when this trip took place. Since we all tend to believe she has some real mental issues, this could have produced the determination necessary.

    When I was that age, it was not uncommon for me to drive well over 100,000 miles in a year in my work. You learn some tricks about staying alert and how to beat fatigue. I’ll find out how tough I still am on the road next month with the trip to Omaha. I’ll drive about 600 miles the first day because Kansas is full of little towns with zero quality hotels.

    It would be interesting if we could somehow really have evidence of all of Jodi’s activities during the road trip. Because she lives in her on fantasy world, we can only try to determine some facts and truth. I really feel sorry for the attorneys on both sides along with LE who have to deal with this crime. They don’t appear to be doing much better in getting at the facts than what we are able to do.

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