Jodi Arias Trial Rebuttal Winds Down: Fog, Fugue, Freed or Fraud- Are The Sex Pics From Months Before Travis Alexander’s Murder? Do They Show Arias Broke In?
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Phoenix, AZ- Arguably the best psychological witness presented at trial, Dr. Janeen DeMarte, clinical psychologist, took the stand last week as the first witness in the State of Arizona’s rebuttal case in the trial of Jodi Arias for the murder of Travis Alexander.
In stark contrast to her previous behavior in court, Jodi Arias refused to look at Dr. DeMarte on the stand, and feverishly took notes or whispered to her attorney Jennifer Wilmott through the State’s direct examination of their witness.
With one exception. When Dr. DeMarte was asked by Prosecutor Juan Martinez if Jodi Arias was a victim of domestic violence resulting in battered woman syndrome, Ms. Arias looked up for DeMarte’s answer. “No.”
After a battery of psychological tests were completed and scored, and approximately 12 hours of clinical interview with defendant Arias- Dr. DeMarte diagnosed Jodi Arias with Borderline Personality Disorder. Dr. DeMarte had the added luxury of having her home vandalized and her laptop stolen following the start of the trial. That information was not shared in open court.
Significant from a psychological evaluation perspective, Jodi Arias’ expert witnesses Alyce LaViolette and Dr. Samuels felt Arias was suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) as a result of the killing of Travis Alexander on June 4, 2008 at his home in Mesa, Arizona. Only Samuels was licensed to test Arias similarly to DeMarte, and it appears the results were very different. Samuels testified that he never re-tested Arias after he learned her accounts of June 4 were fabrications and that was an error on his part in his finding Arias suffered from PTSD.
Cross examination of Dr. DeMarte induced a migraine headache suffered by Arias (her 3rd since trial) although she is taking Imitrex for the condition. Earlier in the day, Wilmott began her cross by repeatedly stating that DeMarte was practicing therapy without a license prior to her licensing exam, to which DeMarte responded “That is not correct, it is permitted under the supervision of a licensed psychologist, which I was.”
Wilmott went on to question DeMarte’s credentials specifically related to expertise in domestic violence and her current knowledge of the practices of Dr. Lenore Walker- largely considered the pioneer of domestic violence research and testing. Walker’s work is novel within the psychological community in the area of the battered woman syndrome diagnosis.
Wilmott unsuccessfully tried to trip up DeMarte by suggesting that Walker no longer uses her own 6 point scale to include the possibility of battered woman syndrome to which DeMarte replied, “I would say that you are being inaccurate.”
DeMarte completed her testimony with very limited juror questions, although it was clear that a juror or two was not sold that Arias’ only disorder is BPD.
While DeMarte represented the State well in my opinion; Jodi Arias remains the round peg in the jello rhomboid to me. Too many unanswered behavioral observations from a criminal profiling perspective to fit into the BPD mold.
Prior to the start of the State’s rebuttal case, defense counsel Kirk Nurmi recalled a witness for the defense who never made it into the witness list for trial, Mr. Bryan Neumiester.
In previous hearings where Neumiester appeared as an expert for the defense in the authentication of the May 10, 2008 phone sex recording made by Arias, the State agreed to a stipulation that it was indeed Travis Alexander’s voice on the tape, and that it was made on May 10.
In earlier testimony Juan Martinez elicited from Jodi Arias, Martinez accused her of recording the tape without Alexander’s permission or knowledge. Arias was forced to admit that at no time is the fact that the conversation is being recorded heard mentioned by either party during the recording. More on that recording in a bit.
Neumiester was able to magnify the very haunting last image of a live Travis Alexander’s face in the shower, specifically his iris, and gain agreement via stipulation that the reflective image contained therein is that of Jodi Arias. She was not holding a gun or knife and the image was time-stamped correctly.
This was the second time Juan Martinez agreed to a stipulation from the same expert witness regarding the recorded media, both digital and audio in this case- outside the presence of the jury.
Mr. Neumiester is an expert witness for colleagues in Mr. Martinez’s own office as well as the Mesa Police Department. Might suggest offsite meetings going forward.
The final witness listed for the State’s rebuttal case is an investigator for the Mesa County Police who specializes in computer forensics, Detective Robert Brown. Detective Brown describes himself as a Computer Forensics Detective:
As a Digital Forensics expert, I possess attention to detail in my forensic capability, as well as the ability to explain complex technical concepts in a non-technical manner.
In the course of my regular duties, I also perform the following:
-Support ongoing internal investigations and litigation matters
-Utilize a variety of forensic tools (Encase, FTK, Helix, Cellebrite, Wireshark, etc.)
-Perform storage forensics (for example, hard drives, phones, USB storage)
-Perform network captures for traffic analysis
-File-system analysis and file carving (for example, to extract email, documents, and other trace evidence)
-Identifying , collection and analyzing electronic information, relevant to a case, incident or event of interest
-Establish timelines and patterns of activity of individuals and electronic devices and software
-Following forensically sound practices, including preserving chain of custody
-Efficiently and effectively report progress, risks and issues associated with assignments to varying levels of management
Following sound practices including preservation of chain of custody is looking like a welcome addition to this case.
In testimony from Detective Michael Melendez where the images allegedly taken by Travis’s camera were recovered from the deleted or unallocated portions of the memory stick via Encase software we learned that the infamous afternoon of highly graphic sex images of both Travis and Jodi that were dated and time-stamped on June 4th took place that afternoon prior to Travis’s murder.
Thus, making Jodi Arias an invited guest.
As an invited guest spending the day indelicato delicto, it certainly makes it difficult to prove the felony murder charge she is facing- and does not help the pre-meditation or murder in the first degree allegation because the basic motive is that Jodi went there to murder Travis because he was not going to take her to Cancun. While certainly a possibility, I would offer that just about every psychological professional who sat across from Arias missed the fact that she literally saw her old boyfriends more than once along her trek that ended up with her last breakup. Weird, yes.
Otherwise known as a raging sign of dependent personality disorder.
…” You are the worst thing that has ever happened to me…”
-Travis Alexander
According to the text messages back and forth between Jodi and Travis the weeks prior to his murder, it was patently clear that Alexander wanted Arias out of his life for good.
Has what the state since learned after having Jodi on the stand under oath and repeated in cross examination opened the door to further investigation of the electronic media in this case in preparation for rebuttal? Looks that way.
Keeping in mind that the phone sex recording was May 10th. About a week later, Arias testified, she thought the phone was stolen. She alleges it was found by her Aunt in 2010 in her grandfather’s car. This would be the same aunt that she pointed out in court, and who has not been seen in court in weeks although she had attended daily.
Arias writes in her journal entry May 22, 2008 that there are several explicit photos on her stolen phone, and 2 recorded sex tapes. In 2010, Arias though her attorneys, deliver this phone into evidence with no chain of custody information in a then 2 year old case. Miraculously, this occurs just as Arias is moving from the “maybe not the ninja’s” defense. From the defense perspective it has some statements from Alexander on it that they feel support’s their defense. From the State’s perspective it proves that Arias was certainly very open to the sexual practices of the couple and never felt abused, nor was she put off by the comments by Alexander.
A win-win for both sides so why not agree to its stipulation, right?
Is this why Juan Martinez was hammering home the journal entry written about the “fruitful imaginations” the two explored, causing Arias to miss Lonnie’s christening?
The infamous sugar fest that takes place just before Arias allegedly walks in on Alexander in masturbatory behavior where some image of a boy lands at her feet on January 21st? I note that one of the pictures allegedly from the June 4th date seems to show Alexander engaged in some self-satisfaction that ended with a surprise photo taken from the point of view of the chair next to him.
You’ll see where I am going with this momentarily.
Zulu Time Sex Chat
I have listened to the recording more times than one should have to, and I note that within that conversation ( which is clearly edited, you can hear the fast forwards or dead time during the recording) the sexual tryst they discuss sounds very much like what was captured on the images as presented previously as occurring on June 4th. If you have no concern about losing your lunch, it can be found here. Because of the nature of the material I am not quoting directly.
Graphic Warning, Sexually Explicit Material
Points in Conversation that Match Images
- Jodi discusses her fresh Brazilian and her being unsure if Travis would like that. She mentions Travis wakes her up after she fell asleep in the chair by preforming a sex act on her. There is no question that Jodi is freshly waxed in those images.
- Travis discusses the point of view shots of her “anatomy”.
- Jodi mentions that her hair was IN BRAIDS. In the police interview Flores refers to them as pigtails and Jodi responds “Are you sure it’s me, pigtails? They are not pigtails, they are braids and it is through this verbiage I believe we see Jodi restate that the pics are from another time. She is adamant on that until unfortunately Flores gives it up he has those 2 pics taken from the scene accidently.
- Jodi asks Travis to check out her new profile pic, he does, tells her how photogenic she is, and at no time says… O, you changed your hair color to brown. We know she took pics from her own camera May 10 and she was a brunette. Arias testified her hair was brown prior to leaving Mesa.
- Travis mentions the introduction of KY into the relationship. It is laying on the bed in the images, however, he says during the call when he is masturbating he is using Vaseline.
- Jodi mentions next time they have a photo session that she would like to have makeup on. She has no makeup on in these images.
- In a very close-up point of view shot, it appears Ms. Arias is using her vaginal canal as a tootsie pop holder. The tootsie pop incident occurs only once and prior to June 4th as it is discussed during the tootsietape.
I am aware that Det. Melendez says that the timestamps are from the image files, however, he never offers any explanation as to why some have it and many do not. Nor is he asked how if Neumiester was able to pull EXIF data identifying the shower image as taken from Travis’s camera from a similarly deleted image, why he was not able to. Likely why Mr. Neumiester was kept off the stand via the State’s agreement to the stipulation that has the legal community scratching its collective head.
My current thought bubble: Why would the prosecution take the murder weapons out of the hands of the suspect and in one fell swoop support her account of events as opposed to allowing Judge Stephens to rule on the Daubert hearing?
My current thought bubble response: Because it opens the door that has a little bottle labeled drink me on the other side.
Exhibit #215 Is Fat
No, not a person. The blue SD card labeled exhibit #215, confirmed by the State by its two witnesses Heather Connor and Det Melendez to be the card where all deleted images were extracted.
There’s just one problem with that. Well, maybe two. Connor stated it was located in the bottom of the washer along with the camera battery cover, which were separate from the camera itself. In fact, one can see the battery pack in the camera from the image taken into the washer.
Melendez stated he found the card or memory stick inside the camera when he opened its cover door.
Duo v SD blue
How did it get there if he was the only one who handled it, and how does he account for the fact that it is definitely not compatible with Travis’s camera a Sony (insert model).
Travis’s camera used a proprietary Sony duopro memory stick which is thinner and rectangular, and included notches for locking the data contained on it. The blue SD card cannot and does not fit inside the camera.
SO….
How does one account for the fact that there is only one card located in exhibit #215 and it is indeed now a Sony duopro, and it is NOT the same card pictured in the envelope presented by Thomas through prosecutor Juan Martinez.
As much as it pains me to say this- Jodi told them that herself and Det. Flores confirmed it during their interview on July 15, 2008.
Excerpted in pertinent part, my actual case bench notes from 4/2/13:
1:57 starts discussion on card- notes for review, upload and feedback
JA: To me pictures are very compelling but I know they can be modified, altered and I don’t know but I think date and time stamps can be tampered with.
Flores: we did not modify anything. Say like a computer, we take a mirror copy of it, and we don’t even touch it…. That’s exactly what we do with the photos. We don’t work with the originals and we make an exact duplicate copy and we work with the copy..And our guys are so good, that every case that I know of, has never been lost in court
(Note b: That sounds dangerously like no jury will ever convict me, ugh.)
8:34
Arias begins to ask Flores if they have her camera from storage.
Flores responds do you remember taking these pictures?
Arias: we took many pictures, vaguely
9:00
Arias in response to Flores saying they both deleted everything off both or all devices (sic) says prior to Travis getting his camera, all those pictures were on her camera.
Flores: All these same pictures?
Arias: I dunno, we took a bunch the week before I left
Arias: What I am asking is it possible that my memory card is in his camera? They are interchangeable.
(Note b: This may be why she needed the software and cord found in office. Ref my observations that the cord image appears to have red staining, but was not marked for testing. Imo, this is why she states they had sex on the desk. She knew her DNA from the cut would be there.)
Flores: How do you know they are interchangeable?
Arias: That’s why I am asking.
Flores: Just a regular ole standard SD card.
Arias: That’s why I am asking, cause I’ve got one that is like, this big (Note b: draws on his pad lefty)
For my professional camera it is like long and think like a cracker. My other one is more like this big (note b: Draws but in context shown to be larger than the first. She is indicating they are 2 different sizes.)
Flores: they are not interchangeable…His camera was here and your camera was there, why would those be on his camera?
Arias: My camera in storage that is broken but it is still there, I had several memory cards for it that I don’t have any more, and I guess what I am saying.
Flores: so are you saying all these pictures are on that camera?
Arias; no, it’s so farfetched but I guess it’s possible my card fits
Flores: So you’re saying maybe somebody took your memory card?
Arias: No, what I am saying is that if I left my memory cards at his house he could have used it in his camera. (Note b: This is prior to the trip to the big house. Please note how incredibly detrimental it is to call your suspect on the phone and tell them about all your subpoenas and warrants coming her way six weeks earlier- tends to lead to destruction of evidence, witness tampering, I could go on.)
Of particular interest, was Flores’s commentary that the experts on the hard drive and imaging testing (Melendez et al) have never lost a case where they presented evidence?
While that may be true, there was more than a few things he got wrong in that exchange.
- While on the stand initially calling the duopro card a SIM card, Melendez stated that SIM cards are smaller and primarily used in phones. This is an incorrect explanation. The storage format Martinez was referring to as a SIM is actually Micro SD. However, no micro SD cards have been admitted into evidence at trial.
- In Flores’s interview, he expressly stated that the analysts DID NOT work with the original card or cards in the case that they only make a copy, a mirror copy and work with that. Again, incorrect as we heard Melendez testify that he could not read the card removed until he placed the card directly into his “forensic machine”. No copy was ever made and the images recovered consisted then of deleted and non-deleted items from the card Melendez testified he removed from Travis’s camera himself.
Is it possible Jodi is correct, and Travis had an SD card from her camera and that was the camera used to shoot the tawdry tryst? Whereby he subsequently loaded the amateur effort himself onto the duopro card via the USB attachment and software loaded on his computer? If indeed Melendez was able to recover the deleted images from the duopro card, this would account for why the romp images were on his camera card although Travis and Jodi had not seen each other since its purchase.
Travis also had a Sony video camera that would also use a Sony duopro card enabling him to use the one he had in both. Travis’s video camera has not been referenced as evidence or an exhibit in the trial to date.
Potentially solving the dilemma of how the images get on Travis’s camera- if in fact they predate June 4th unfortunately does not address either how two of the state’s own witnesses testify differently about the same pieces of evidence that cannot possibly be the same storage device or the problems in chain of custody of same.
If Jodi was not the invited guest she claims she was as evidenced previously by the pictures thought to be taken on June 4th, what was she doing there exactly?
Did Travis Alexander even know she was in the house before he spots her holding something other than a gun or knife as he looks out of the shower for the last time?
Travis’s roommate Enrique’s statement to Flores seems to support the theory that at the very least, he was not aware Jodi was in the home when he spoke to Travis that morning and Travis shared he had not gotten any sleep. During her interview Jodi knew nothing of the new second roommate (until Flores outright told her about him and that he was at work) but she definitely would have if she came in through the garage because his car was parked in it.
Does this lend credence to the screen outside being removed by Jodi to the office window laying on the ground for entrance purposes?
Court resumes tomorrow after a closed hearing today. With the general public consensus after a nearly 4 month trial that most are no closer to the truth about what actually happened at casa de alexander on June 4, 2008 other than the outcome, this jury has its work cut out for them.
Please join me this evening discussing this case on THE DANA PRETZER SHOW- LIVE at 9PM EST.
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Dear Blink,
I found your piece extremely interesting and the amount of work and research you have done to produce it is evident.
There are some points with which I agree, but there is a “sticky” piece that has been somewhat troubling me (enough to actually post for the first time…) and I was hoping you can shed some light since you have discussed it in one of your former posts.
I am referring to the duct tape. The same tape that is visible on the victim’s arm (bed photos-as the post suggests possibly from an older encounter) and found on the floor (evidence photo which I think was not discussed during court). Finally, although the tape is not visible on the actual shower photos, its mark is quite visible on the victim’s right arm (same location as bed photos). Maybe it is a coincidence or maybe it was part of their repertoire, but thinking in a linear way (that could be the pitfall) it makes it more plausible to conclude that all pictures (bed+shower) were taken on the same day. Thank you in advance for any thoughts you can share…
I hope ALV has gone back to work with her domestic abuse and is doing well
It was to bad she was even a witness in many ways
I did like her and wished she would have just checked out early on
I just cannot see how the jury will have any trouble deciding about Jodi her own testamony alone
Was enough for this lay person to decide plus the evidence It seems clear
Link to all filings made so far in Arias trial..
( case number CR2008-031021 )
interesting.
http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CriminalCourtCases/caseInfo.asp
April 29, 2013 at 4:17 pm
The number of bars do match. My Duo Pro has 10 bars, as the one in the link below has, as the one in evidence has
http://www.mydigitallife.us/flash%20005.JPG
Oh dear, I was being facetious and a little snark. The blue card in evidence is not a Sony duopro memory stick.
B
Wow! The prosecution asked Connor to identify the picture taken of the memory stick at the crime scene and she verified it was the same one found in the washing machine. So you’re saying the picture they used during her testimony doesn’t match the actual physical evidence? (It’s the picture you posted above. )
Your comments are making more sense to me now.
Yes ma’am. But I defer to the piece for the specs.
regardless, there is a chain of custody breech at a minimum.
B
I was just watching JVM and Beth Karas stated that the defense also filed a motion requesting that the rebuttal witness tomorrow (i’m forgetting his name and am typing on ipad so trying to make this short) also be able to rebut the medical examiner’s opinion that Travis would have been incapacitated by the GSW. Does this witness have the expertise to rebut that and support Jodi’s claim that the GSW occured first?
@ JB says:
April 30, 2013 at 9:39 am
Oh yeah! HLN has decent coverage, if you don’t mind the interruptions. Some are watching live streams online.
Are we not supposed to? I thought the admonitions were for the jury, only. #slapmy@$$andcallmejuan
Sorry, B. I couldn’t resist.
ROTFL.
B
Re: #32 Non idiot
Must be moonbat mating season. They’re everywhere.
Y’all know there’s more than one ALV twitter acct?????
https://twitter.com/ADLaViolette
https://twitter.com/AlyceLaViolette
Not sure why she has 2.
Well what do you know Blink now I have another theme song in my head…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmIsMzyohqM
I pegged you for more of a Tj Hooker/Heather Locklear fan (cop show) than a Fallguy/ Heather Thomas fan though LOL
Who doenst like Lee Majors as the Fall Guy and Heather Thomas she was great too – Im sure you had a few complimentary comparisons made about the two of you- so I understand your mistake of adding Thomas to the Heather instead of Conner
You were right Blink Travis’ camera was a H9 here is the users manual I posted on the earlier thread:
http://www.luc.edu/digitalmedia/pdfs/Sony_DSCH9_Manual.pdf
Interesting points-
memory stick is not supplied with the camera it must be bought separatly
pg 7
and
internal memory and memory stick duo backup
warning:
do not turn off the camera or remove the battery pack or the MSD while the access lamp is lighted
as the internal memory may be destroyed
to remove battery pack/MSDuo pg 14
open the cover
make sure access lamp is off then push in the memory stick duo once
If it was found in the bottom of the washer than it seems it could have been left that way…as regardless if it was ran thru a cycle or not it seems unlikely that the cover would have come off and the MSD would have been pushed down …and in Melendez’ testimony he mentions that the stick was inside another”case” was his an adapter or a hard case or a sleeve like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SONY-32MB-DUO-MEMORY-STICK-/190832101267?pt=Digital_Camera_Memory_Cards&hash=item2c6e7ac793
and about the date and time- this camera does not have on screen date and it is not ever “set” in stone- the date and time on the camera can be changed over and over
change the date and time
pg 15
and remember from earlier review camera posting:
Tips & Warnings
*
You will have to reset the clock settings on your Sony DSC-S930 each time you remove the batteries or when they run down.
pg 33
shooting movies need memory stick duo inorder to accomplish this
—
pg 22 playback stills on tv screen or use a computer you need the usb cord
Is this the cord that was in the washer?
Cont part 2
AJMO
I have been looking at the post by BH regarding the Duo-pro memory cards. There is quite a bit on the wiki site about the history and manufacture of the cards.
As most producers of computer and electronics,including cameras frequently do, Sony probably did work with San Disk to make the memory cards. There has been a long line of development extending from about 1999. The early Sony memory stick and the subsequent developments have produced a number of sizes and methods of storing data. This is all about increasing memory capacity while serving multiple markets for cameras.
The Duo-pro product at its beginning was furnished with an adapter that would all it to be placed in the memory card slot on a computer or into a camera that used a std. SD card. None of the Duo-pro cards produced for the high end cameras will fit other cameras that use an SD card. The physical dimensions prevent this. There is now even a micro Duo-pro to fit the point and shoot type inexpensive cameras.
Wiki is a good place to start, but one needs to explore a great deal further when real physical details are required.
Blink as you know I also think there is something highly suspect about these photos and I do believe they are not from June 4th or at least some of them arent-
Travis appears younger in these tryst pics as does Arias in her face/body pic-
I think at least some of the shower pics might be from an earlier time also-
Could Arias have been trying to recreate the time period when they were “official”?
We both have concerns about the real heinous nature of this crime- being far worse than what has been depicted
I think it is highly possible that Arias was not an invited guest that day and she went about downloading previous images from the computer or the movie camera to the memory stick and placing them on Travis’ new camera
This is possible as there were more than 90 images on that stick why?
the camera box was on his desk as if it had been hastily opened and never had been used prior…as we know there was activity on his laptop at 4:19pm on the 4th though
add to this
the camera bag sans camera was left on the floor of the bedroom- in front of the tv- seemingly pointing an observer to immediately go searching for missing camera and seems to point to the camera being used with the tv… – strangely as you mentioned where is the movie camera- and where is the remote for the camera?
Then we have the washer set up… the camera inside memory stick cover off memory stick on bottom of washer… smell of bleach but can it be said the items were ever ran thru a wash cycle?
As we know Arias has claimed she lost several things or forgot where they were… or that they were broken beyond repair
her helio phone that was “stolen” which held the infamous sex tape…
and was miraculously found when she needed it the most…
the gun and the knife…
the rope…
her angel…
her clothes she kept asking to get from Travis even after he was dead…
her computer
her camera
Travis/ computer.. and so on
Did JA actually plan for every possible outcome?
plan a claim wasnt there
plan b claim intruders
plan c claim selfdefense-fog
overall theme- kill Travis while destroying his reputation add “evidence” as needed…
nude/ sex pics
phone sex tape
pedo letters
journal entries
ambiguous texts that highlight Travis foul language and meanness without spelling out the exact details of the whys and whatfors and where JA just happens to be overwhelmingly “sweet”… have a nice day…im sorry…etc
Cont part 3
ajmo
You wrote:
In testimony from Detective Michael Melendez where the images allegedly taken by Travis’s camera were recovered from the deleted or unallocated portions of the memory stick via Encase software we learned that the infamous afternoon of highly graphic sex images of both Travis and Jodi that were dated and time-stamped on June 4th took place that afternoon prior to Travis’s murder.
Thus, making Jodi Arias an invited guest.
Blink this is all very strange as yes he did say he used encase software he also said no images could be found on the camera thats when he went to the stick…he said he put it in a card reader though- and then had to put it directly into his computer… again was the cord that was in the washer the ubs cord or did he have to buy it and did Travis have a card reader and adapter memory stick for his movie camera?
Like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-256-MB-Memory-Stick-PRO-Duo-Flash-Memory-Card-W-Adapter-and-USB-Reader-New-/350780049849?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51ac1ec9b9
Why were there no images on his computer- did he delete them when they broke up or were they deleted by Arias in a transfer? and was there tapes /images on his movie camera? and were these images the “stills” that we see on the memory stick…were they transferred by Arias that day?
You wrote:
I am aware that Det. Melendez says that the timestamps are from the image files, however, he never offers any explanation as to why some have it and many do not. Nor is he asked how if Neumiester was able to pull EXIF data identifying the shower image as taken from Travis’s camera from a similarly deleted image, why he was not able to. Likely why Mr. Neumiester was kept off the stand via the State’s agreement to the stipulation that has the legal community scratching its collective head.
—I did not follow this testimony either as he says they have the exif data from the camera but wait didnt he get the images from the memory stick so how can anyone be sure that this data was not manipulated in some fashion i do not understand why some have date stamps time and some dont…
You bring up the prosecutions agreements but the defense is in this too-
why did they agree to these stipulations?
I think it is because if one does take a closer look at everything one thing becomes quite clear in these pics-
Arias planned them whether by actually taking them that day or by planting them as an invitation/ proof Travis was naughty- and she did so before she murdered him as there are pics showing Travis in the shower that day- I believe mixed in with younger shower pics to coincide with younger tryst pics. sex tape..and then the movement of the camera away from “tasteful” pic taking (butt pic) and then ceiling pic then Bloody Travis pic then hallway pic…
BTW i think the stip. of the iris can be a good move by the prosecution as it shows Arias had to make a conscious effort to get the gun AND the knife
AJMO
Cont Part 4
I contacted Sony to see if an SD card can be used in the camera and it can. This is the reply I got from them.
Thank you for contacting Sony Support.
I understand that you wish to use the SD Memory Card with the Camera. The standard size SD Memory Card can be inserted in to the Camera without using any Adaptor. However, if you wish to use micro SD memory cards with the Camera, then an appropriate adaptor is required. Please contact local electronic store or computer vendor to obtain the appropriate Adaptor.
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Andy
Pam- have you read my earlier responses- specifically to Georgia Dad with the links directly from SONY discussing the use of Travis’s camera model and the incompatibility of any SD device or adapter that is non Sony duo pro memory stick?
I note you do not include the camera model in your snip. Where does that appear?
I also posted the manual from Travis’s camera. Does not take an SD card.
B
@Mom3.0
I too found this article incredibly interesting especially because I am one of the few who doubts very much Travis had sex with Arias that day. Heck, I don’t even think he would’ve allowed her in. Not after that very explicit text message he sent her. C’mon now, she’s not THAT irresistible.
Like you, I re-listened to Connor and Melenez’ testimony. Connor said she found the card in the washing machine. Implying (in my opinion anyway) it was separate from the camera although that was never specifically stated by her.
And Melendez said he found the card intact inside the camera when he received it.
Here’s another thought although I’ll admit, I am not that tech-savvy:
What if Arias uploaded those ‘bed’ photos onto Travis’ computer and used a USB to extracted then download to his camera? This way when he brought the camera to Mexico, Mimi would’ve seen them. But obviously, if that is true then Arias changed her mind.
And what if that DID happen day (while he was asleep or perhaps unaware she was there) would the time/date stamp be correct of that day?
I am bothered that no one explained why some of the photos were stamped while others clearly weren’t.
I really believe those photos were not taken from that day and Arias more than likely, was an uninvited, un-welcomed and unannounced guest.
I am also of the thought-group that: Arias might’ve been planning a staged burglary and let’s say……hmmmm, Matt?….never showed up.
I think there was a lot of half-truths in those interrogation tapes.
@Jden. Good point. I personally can’t believe her sign up & first foray onto twitter began (Apr 11) c 2 weeks ago
1) when an internet harrassment torrent was unleashed on her via diverse tools,
2) during the period of her testimony (what were those dates?)
3) resulted in a “foot on the gas pedal” going from a tweetless life to successive tweets
4) resulted in less than 2 weeks on 600 followers finding a new account and joining it–even her apeechifying ir therapy followers is not that large.
If you look at the followers, lotsa fry Jodyites there. Imo a signup call was put on some anti-FB page to generate tge traffic. JMO.
Here in a hotel for 2 mire nites, hln on now. on mute.
really? trying “if she loves being on trial?” all these channels going
on & on about Arias & there’s so little content. Imo reflects tge drawn out trial & the strategies.
but a few video snips of arias in in tv room were interesting (sorry Blink, never saw all those hours).
In one I could swear she was responding to an internal voice.
Interesting M Jackson Judge is allowing into trial only one sib at a time. That does bode for a more appeal-proof outcome.
Imo the only persons watching the trial in the Courtroom who matter are the Big 12.
@Ragdoll
Very funny
Thanks for the laugh:)
@Blink. While the card in evidence is not a Sony duo pro,
are you saying it’s not a SanDisk duo pro either (which is interchangeable)
but a regular sd card? Sorry to be slow.
Blink although I do think your theory is possible – the card being a sd card rather than a memory stick
I think it is possible that it is in fact a memory stick duo
In my previous post I linked to blue sony card-
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SONY-32MB-DUO-MEMORY-STICK-/190832101267?pt=Digital_Camera_Memory_Cards&hash=item2c6e7ac793
here is a black sony card- notice the connectors you said count them there are ten- please notice that unlike the sd card you show in your piece there isnt a connector down and off to the end corner
http://www.ebay.com/itm/32MB-SONY-Memory-Stick-Duo-NON-PRO-100-Genuine-Made-Japan-PSP-M32-Brand-New-/221157135901?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14349%26meid%3D7338402544947157126%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D1088%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D190832101267%26
and I am adding this link to a sans disk blue please notice it has the same connectors
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sandisk-MS-Pro-Duo-1-GB-Memory-Stick-Genuine-OEM-card-Formatted-PSP-/261209271635?pt=US_Video_Game_Memory&hash=item3cd1492d53
you wrote
How did it get there if he was the only one who handled it, and how does he account for the fact that it is definitely not compatible with Travis’s camera a Sony (insert model).
Travis’s camera used a proprietary Sony duopro memory stick which is thinner and rectangular, and included notches for locking the data contained on it. The blue SD card cannot and does not fit inside the camera.
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Again I am not entirely certain it is or isnt an SD card …. i did take screen shots of the card during melandez and conners testimony– it appears to me to be the same card and it appears to be either a blue sony memory stick duo or a sandisk memory stick duo there appear to be 10 connectors and the white bar matches as does the black smudges above the white bar(could be the numbers)… I am however not 100% certain and I am only offering this info up for digestion—
it is a shame that the prosecution didnt just have the witnesses describe exactly what was written/ type etc…. and i am not sure what this means for chain of custody as both could be telling the truth—inorder to test it tLE put the card back into the camera…bad move but not huge mistake… JMO
FWIW if Travis had an adapter then the movie camera card would fit the H9 camera card…what type of cell phone did he have? as that too could hold those images… and if sony then it is compatible with an adapter.
see here for camera video camera memory
http://www.ebay.com/itm/4G-Memory-Stick-Pro-Duo-Card-For-Sony-Camera-PSP-4G-SONY-/171033400069?pt=Digital_Camera_Memory_Cards&hash=item27d2629305
heres the thing Blink if that memory card is a sony or a sandisk then it is only compatible with same- so JAs lies about her camera cards fitting dont jive as with Olympus and Cannon the connectors are pegs that fit in holes not bars…
so she may have went to get the memory card from travis’ video camera inorder to be able to make a movie…(why do that just use the vC itself)..
or she at some point transferred images from the computer or the phone or took out the memory card for the vcamera…
transfer or notas she may have never used travis camera but set it up in the washer along with the memory stick and cord to “tell a story” plan a- plan b plan c didnt matter as long as he was dead and everyone knew the ugly “truth”
The set up was done inorder to make it seem as if all this happened before the murder the invitation the nudes the sex pics the shower pics all to establish the build up to the “accidental killing pics”
or if plan a or b- set up as the motive for murder— bad Mormon must atone for his deeds- fits the wounds… saying
were not here for her ….thats not what this is about…. the b from cali…. I watch the sopranos…mob after my family stay silent
either plan Arias plays the victim and Travis is the one who pays the price for leading her astray…
AJMO
Peace
ok blink, I’ll go back & read to GaDad etc, same as Pam.
Sorry I was reading from bottom up.
@ Mom3.0 says:
April 30, 2013 at 7:52 pm
I absolutely 1000% concur, especially on the ‘order’ of picture. I don’t believe the sex photos and shower scenes were on the same day. The rest of your posts are spot on, imo.
I also agree with B……she went there on June 4, uninvited and unexpected! There were no relations between them on June 4. If only that distinction could have been made and presented to the jury. That’s such a critical piece in a timeline that makes no sense, without it.
I am fervently praying for God’s justice to prevail. Jodi, on the other, believes God is on her side (no reverence for HIS WILL, at all)…
-snipped
‘If a conviction happens, I know I won’t be the first person to be wrongly convicted,’ she told a CBS reporter recently,’ adding that she knows in her heart that in the system of ‘God’s justice,’ she is ‘OK.
http://tinyurl.com/c5777fa
She made this statement during the 48 Hours interview…before she threw in the self defense kaka. This interview creeps me out; her calm, demure, sweet demeanor. She doesn’t think God can’t see through that?
That’s all I got. Peace out…..don’t look like a fool with your pants on the ground
#AmericanIdolDude
Pam- have you read my earlier responses- specifically to Georgia Dad with the links directly from SONY discussing the use of Travis’s camera model and the incompatibility of any SD device or adapter that is non Sony duo pro memory stick?
I note you do not include the camera model in your snip. Where does that appear?
I also posted the manual from Travis’s camera. Does not take an SD card.
B
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I have tried to read all of the posts but admittedly may have missed some. I did remember reading somewhere in the article that the sd card was compatible. So I went looking for info. Did find the manual but did not want to post it. Found a review on the camera that mentioned the SD camera and an adapter. So I went to the sony sight and was able to contact them via e-mail to their support team. It is for the DSC H9 which is the model you said Travis had. Below is the question I posed to Sony to go with my earlier post. If other information from sony says they are incompatible than how do we know for sure?????
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Product Group: Sony
O/S :
Model : DSCH9
Question : Is there an adapter or something to be able to use an SD memory card for this camera. I saw a review of a customer that mentioned this and I have SD cards that I want to use with this camera.
Correct. I will refer you to the manual information I posted previously.
B
oops correction to my post of 9:20 should have said the review mentioned SD card not SD camera
I wish I understood more about cameras and dupros etc. so I could jump in all the memory card discussion.
But I do know is THIS:
Arias’ claim of being a professional photographer must have been based on something… she must have considered her knowledge of cameras as one of her strengths.
It makes sense to me that when a person has a goal, they will use their strengths to achieve it.
She was computer savvy, and to achieve her goal of knowing more about Travis than he wanted to tell her, her goal of fullfilling her obsession, her goal of controlling him,she used that savvy to manipulate him.
She would have done the same with a camera, just another of her ” tools”
In her testimony she said she packed up her stuff and left, but then returned to give him cds of past photos, and that the fight in the office came about because they couldn’t load them. And she describes the whole day as basically a photo shoot. Seriously, the way she puts it, their contact that day was all about photos. the ay she puts it, this was not incidental, its like that was the entire purpose of her conatct with him that day, She makes a big deal about he wanted the photos taken, the sex videos were ” his fantasy” , the shower photos were ‘ to “document how good he looked” , the cd’s were photos he had “been asking for for a long time” Why so much emphasis on Travis wanting all this?
My opinion of her nature is that she over explains when she lies. She did not testify, or even in derogation say that the photos were her idea, ever. She refers to Travis wanting to make a sex video in the sex phone call when answering a question from the jury. Why go so far to make sure no one thinks nude pics were her idea? I think it is because she wants to obscure all the manipulation she did with those photos, from taking them, ( at whatever date) threatening Travis with them, and then deleting them after she killed him.
And she would have known how to accomplish all of that, using her strength, her knowledge of cameras.
Why did she leave the camera in the washer? The same reason she left him in the shower, left her hand print on the wall, made up all the rest of her excuses and alibis etc etc. She’s a murderer, how can anyone ever fully understand why?
All the reasons that the defense are giving for ” why” she did this are only corroborating how messed up she is. But if Travis was the ONLY reason she was messed up, why did she continue to lie after he was dead, and to this day? Travis wasn’t her problem, her problem is still within her. It didnt end with Travis’s death, and it wont be over with the verdict, unless she gets DP or LWOP.. and even then she will still be working on her case for years…
MOM3-helloo
I thought I recalled Melendez stated in his first appearance on the stand that some pics were date and some were not- IE allocate vs. unallocated, based on whether they were over written. This to me was good for the prosecution, as in that told me some were older pics. I had to sit and think on this- and do some independent study on this- as I am a hard head- but, I believe the naked behind pics ass an example were undated and may have been earlier in date, and therefore possibly over written. This is all speculatory- a new word and IMO.
Oops- forgive the typos- unintended pun- it is early.
LOL, I let it go ass is
B
I’ve been thinking about the memory card conundrum and plausiblity of it not being one in the same. I think the State would’ve been more thorough in investigating this main piece of evidence. So I have to believe that card found did indeed belonged to Travis’ camera.
I think the culprit and where the switch-a-roo happened was in his ‘office’. Because it’s very curious that Arias was sure to place herself in there (having sex w/Travs) and where the window screen was found on the back lawn. I believe Arias toyed with his computer and extrapolated those photos from her camera somehow.
I also believe the shower photos might’ve been from an earlier date as well seeing I don’t believe Travis let her in that day. Also, from the photo of Travis’ back (in the shower), he doesn’t look to be that ‘fit and tone’. I by no means, mean any disrespect nor am I saying he was heavy but to me he didn’t appear to be as chiseled as Arias made it sound (and I, believe). So once again, I believe those photos were from an earlier time.
I am very curious as to the other 90-odd photos left on his camera. There’s been no mention of those. Why?
I do recall Arias telling Flores she brought a CD of photos to show Travis (premeditation right there! If visiting him was a last minute decision, how is it she knew to bring that disc?) So I question whether those 90-photos were all his too!
The only obvious photos that were current were the accidental ones and that’s when I believe, Travis first saw her and knocked her to the ground.
A little off-topic: If there was a gun, why didn’t Travis himself retrieve it? Especially after he threatened her by saying “kill you…”? Why? Because the gun-in-the-closet is a bold face lie and Juan needs to drive that into the jurors head.
Also, if the gun scenario WAS true (which it wasn’t) wouldn’t Travis have known there was a bullet in the chamber?….thus making him by default, cooperate with her? Of course he would’ve.
I think Juan is doing an okay job but have to wonder why other areas are being glossed over, not mentioned or not hammered home.
And where is Matt? And why didn’t either side call him?
Frustrating to say the least.
There are cases that I am convinced that we will not know what really happened until AFTER trial. This is one of them, imo.
B
B-
Why and how would we know what really happened after the trial? Do attorneys start talking? I never followed a case afterward so I really don’t know how this works.
May I ask, what is your opinion/feeling about Matt McCartney? Why did Arias have a need to call him after butchering Travis?
I soooooo feel he was involved. Or at minimum, was supposed to be involved.
I can’t shake the ‘intruder story’ she gave especially when she made one of them into a female. If made up, who DOES that?? I mean, it’s most bizarre. So I am left to consider……there are a LOT of half-truths to her story.
I feel Matt was supposed to (or did) show up as this ‘intruder’ to either rob or kill Travis w/Arias. I do believe he is a thug and was involved with Arias’ grandparent’s burglary so one more, wouldn’t be out of the scope of possibility.
Arias said while on the Stand “”Matt hadn’t answered his phone til he was there”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm7feyvc2z4&list=FLyugQ4zVMRX8QgFz540wC_A&index=1
(not sure if I’m allowed to link a YT video)
Now what was THAT slip-up all about?
Thanks Blink. Love your site and your insight!!
Gonna be honest. From day one as I wrote here, I cannot be convinced that Jodi was the only person in the home on June 4th. There is no benefit whatsoever if there was someone else for her to cough them up when it would only seal her fate. I can’t exclude it with the information available.
B
@ Malty
Hugs to you friendy, I’m glad I could give ya a giggle. xo
Ragdoll says:
April 30, 2013 at 9:17 pm
@ Mom3.0 says:
April 30, 2013 at 7:52 pm
She made this statement during the 48 Hours interview…before she threw in the self defense kaka. This interview creeps me out; her calm, demure, sweet demeanor. She doesn’t think God can’t see through that?
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@Ragdoll, I think Arias feels that killing Travis was justified, and she knows it was not in self defense. This is one very twisted individual.
Blink, I agree that we will learn so much more about Arias after the conclusion of this trial. Hopefully, Chris and Skye Hughes will keep talking about their experiences with her. Did you hear Chris talk about the time they caught Arias eavesdropping outside the bedroom door when they were talking to Travis about her? An absolutely bone chilling moment. If only Travis had taken their advice.
http://www.chathousenews.com/2013/02/the-shower-scene-jodi-arias-chat-house.html
Chilling.
Travis threatened to expose JA as the “psycho” she was. Was this a self-fulfilling prophecy?
About ALV- why is she watching youtube vids about this case – and she said she didnt really do email either and that she just started the tweeting…
In her tweets she says PP my this is so different from gmailing…. something she said she doesnt do usually…and she said she assumed travis was looking at pics on computers BUT all through out the trial she kept saying how she is not savy to these things so her natural assumtion would have been to assume the pics were actual pics NOT computer images…
Regarding that youtube vid it is vulgar and yucky but besides the language is it really any different then what the talking heads are saying or doing on tv one side is TAs team the otherside JAS team..and they all speculate on what might have happened what JA and TA may have been thinking and they have no problem in bringing in others like Lisa and TAs friends either…
So the only difference I can see is the language
I guess ALV must want everyone to burn seeing how everything is related when looking at Context…J/K
Blaze-
I agree that there was some truths in the interrogation tapes-
I also agree that JA may have downloaded the images for the stick
perhaps she took them from TAs movie camera-
IDk there are so many possibilities-
Because we do not know where the memory stick duo came from was it TAs for his movie camera? was it bought by TA specifically for the DH9
Did JA bring it with photos already on it-
The camera need not have a memory stick in it to hold the # of pics taken that day ( the tryst and shower-accidental pics) So the only reason to have the card was to make a movie- (as the stick is required) so it seems that the movie was originally on TAs camera…BUT this seems unlikely as there were more than 90 photos + the shower photos + the tryst + accidental photos then you add a movie how long was it? Regardless that is alot of memory being used…
Then you have to factor in battery time- read the manual so many things deplete the battery…
Seeing the box was on the desk as if just opened…when was the battery charged was it fully charged?
why was the camera bag on the floor if the camera was recently taken from the box? The camera does not come with the bag or does it?
Ragdoll-
thanks for weighing in and as you know I agree with ya.
TGF- MH was correct the SanDisk memory pro duo is compatible with Sony products and you are correct wiki is a good place to start
such as-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_Stick
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SD_Card
Pam thanks for contacting the company-
Eloise- HELLOOO back-
thank you for answering my questions- I get that part about unallocated vs other- but wouldnt the memory stick duo also have info about the photos – and if so what info was cross referenced IDK
AJMO
Peace
Ragdoll says: “…She made this statement during the 48 Hours interview…before she threw in the self defense kaka. This interview creeps me out; her calm, demure, sweet demeanor. She doesn’t think God can’t see through that?…”
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Having come very late to this trial and case I only recently learned Jodi had ‘Do As Thou Wilt’ on her MySpace page. I knew a girl in highschool, very attractive nice person who would rob you blind if you weren’t looking, who read the Satanic Bible and really believe in it.
Jodi is evil. Period. She’s played and is playing with unseen forces. It’s all over this murder and trial. She doesn’t believe in God, she believes she is her own god. IMO it’s why her mental issues are so hard to pin down… her issues are bigger than mental, they are of a spiritual nature as well. It can be seen in the way she morphs physically, her ability to change her persona at will, her ability to charm and endear some people to her, the ‘energy’ she gave off according to what the Hughes and others talk about in interviews, etc…
I know it’s not in vogue to discuss such things and they certainly can’t be brought up in trial but IMO it’s the crux of what drives her and the reason evidence, patterns, and her psych makeup are so chaotic.
Her camera was a tool she used in this IMO (thank you whodunnit for bringing attention to her passion of photography). Photos can be used in rituals and I have no doubt Jodi does and did rituals to control people and circumstances.
There is even the MySpace image she posted along with the Aleister Crowley quote which underscores all of this… the image she took of herself with her face eerily lit by the flash of the camera.
This could be what Travis finally realized and was going to reveal to others about Jodi.
My opinion only and if I were Willmott I would not be so open to this creature.
Well, I have seen a lot of crappy testimony from experts over the last twenty years, but now I can say I have seen it all. Here we have a psychological expert witness interpreting test results and opining about an individual he has never assessed face to face.
Hopefully, he has been precluded from opining whether or not Travis was incapacitated the moment he was shot.
I can’t wait to see the cross of this witness.
I was wondering to myself as I was listening to him how much of the psych evidence over all is really affecting the jury currently or if in essence it will at the end.
In my mind, unless JM can lock this down by walking through the crime scene evidence DISPROVING a struggle occurred, I still cannot see this jury rendering a unanimous verdict unless the manslaughter instruction comes in.
I realize this is petty of me, but the belch on the stand? Oy.
B
@ GraceintheHills: Thank you for clarification on the ME report.
Blink writes:
Gonna be honest. From day one as I wrote here, I cannot be convinced that Jodi was the only person in the home on June 4th. There is no benefit whatsoever if there was someone else for her to cough them up when it would only seal her fate. I can’t exclude it with the information available.
B
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Additionally, if there were others involved, the best way to defend herself would be to claimshe did it herself, because the evidence against her would never add up.
To me, one of the most glaring things about the fog is that in interrogation, she was able to describe details of the stabbing ( where, when, by whom) and descriptions of what Travis was doing in response to the attack, and descriptions of what she was doing. But when she switched to self defense, she suddenly had a fog and could remember nothing about the stabbing. Dr. Samuels posited that this was kind of traumatic response, and that she had come up with the intruder story as a kind of defense mechanism. ( unable to accept she had done this herself)
Its just a wind tunnel in that courtroom. Without sequence of events, there is so much left open to speculation.
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Amazingly, even with my high level of interestI am not even able to watch Geffner. He has so much of that ” over talk” going on, and I can’t help but lump him in with ALV by association, and feel numb to anything he says. I am already imagining Martinez on his cross and feel like been there done that- so glad I am not a juror because I know I am closed off at this point.
I am watching Psychologist/Neuropsychologist Robert Geffner’s testimony. Willmott keeps hammering that the abusive relationship by Travis Alexander is the basis for Jodi’s PTSD in addition to the abuse by her parents. Am I a stupid “schlep” or what? Couldn’t her PTSD be caused by her vicious inhumane slaying of Travis Alexander???? Help!
Blaze says:
May 1, 2013 at 8:58 am
B-
I can’t shake the ‘intruder story’ she gave especially when she made one of them into a female. If made up, who DOES that?? I mean, it’s most bizarre. So I am left to consider……there are a LOT of half-truths to her story.
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Gonna be honest. From day one as I wrote here, I cannot be convinced that Jodi was the only person in the home on June 4th. There is no benefit whatsoever if there was someone else for her to cough them up when it would only seal her fate. I can’t exclude it with the information available.
B
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Even pathological liars rarely make up something out of thin air. Of course, it may just be something she saw in a movie.
At any rate, I’ve been thinking on exactly these lines again lately. But, while I agree that she doesn’t have any real reason to cough up, what I can’t come up with is a feasible motive for murder by the second party.
It’s feasible to me if the motive was not murder initially and something went wrong.
B
This witness on the stand today is just boring me
As near as I can make out he never talked to Jodi Anyone else find this a waste of time or just me
@Malty says:
May 1, 2013 at 3:10 pm
“This witness on the stand today is just boring me
As near as I can make out he never talked to Jodi Anyone else find this a waste of time or just me”
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Indeedy. zzzzzzzzzzzzz!
It is astounding to me that if Wilmott knew wth she was talking about, how to properly prepare for a direct in surerebuttal ,be aware of her abuse of the words ok and alright and know her own case strategy this would be a very effective witness. I can’t stand it. She has no business in criminal law inside a courtroom of a death penalty case. None.
Pains me to say it, I do not like to be negative of professionals but this is maddening.
You can’t tell me that if one has a case for Y E A R S that at some point, when you know you are going to be on National TV for 4 months ( it should be done anyway, but you get the gist) that one does not watch other lawyers trying cases in prep. How do you not say.. gee, that lawyer is fantastic, and I am nothing like them, lol.
Lastly, this witness was a snooze until now. He is absolutely deflating Dr. Horne’s attempts at playing neuropsychologist or neurosurgeon.
B
@Blink
“I was wondering to myself as I was listening to him how much of the psych evidence over all is really affecting the jury currently or if in essence it will at the end.”
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Too long too boring, not relevant to the viciousness of this crime. It is causing jury fatigue..jmo
This is just an interesting article I came across about the family(doesn’t include names) that is now living in Travis house. It’s amazing the number of people who continue to be impacted by her heinous act and what’s really sad is she enjoys it.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/30/family-home-jodi-arias-travis-alexander-murder/2122965/
It’s feasible to me if the motive was not murder initially and something went wrong.
B
So, Blink do you think in retaliation to what ever Travis was threating Jodi with, she possibly got Matt or someone else to go fake a robbery or Ninja attack on Travis to scare him/shut him up and then something went wrong resulting in his murder? If so, how do you think she got them to go along with it? Do you think she claimed abuse? Would this explain the secret coded messages? In other words, was she threating to throw someone under the bus if they didn’t follow her script regarding testimony?
Maybe JA was the female. IOW, JA had a male with her, thus making the “ninja” team, male and female, partly true.
Blaze says:
May 1, 2013 at 8:58 am
B-
I can’t shake the ‘intruder story’ she gave especially when she made one of them into a female.
The then current H7 and H9 (2007/2008) cameras were the series that began a new type of Duo-pro memory products. Their physical dimensions changed along with the method of storage. This allowed a new pathway to get beyond 32Mb of memory.
Has anyone considered that Jodi may be one who inserts themselves into a movie or TV story to the point that she will act out some of the scenes and behaviors? This would be an effort to make herself appear more important. And would not this make her a person who feels the need to build self importance to make her more acceptable in business and social encounters?
The Doctor on the stand today is much more knowledgeable than AL. He has been in the profession for over thirty years and was responsible for organizing the courses for the University of Texas at Tyler, Tx.
Tyler is a city of about 100,000 in East Texas that had its beginning with agriculture and became an important city during the development of the great East Texas oil field. My family lived at Killgore during the 1930′s and we would drive to Tyler to shop.
There are two primary and several secondary university systems in the state. The Texas University system and the Texas A & M system. Texas Tech also has a smaller or secondary system. There are multiple campuses across the state for each group.
The DR on the stand is doing a much better job of explaining the sources of the various tests and how they may be properly used. If he did not examine Jodi, his conclusions cannot be considered. I hope that JM will recognize that and present it to the jury.
D
Willmott and Geffner are now analyzing a picture of the brain and projectile (bullet) damage to the brain. They are attempting to refute the ME’s testimony regarding the bullet wound to Travis’ head. Geffner’s saying according to Horn’s report the bullet did not pierce the dura mater surrounding the brain thus it would not cause incapacitation. The Alexander family is shaking their heads.
Here comes cross by JM. Geffner admittedly does not have a clean track record and the dirty laundry is being aired. Reference the link below.
http://mixedbagblog.com/2013/04/26/whats-wrong-with-dr-geffner/
He may not, but as I am watching this, he is cleaning JM clock. I have not seen JM go after him on the Horne report issue. On a lighter note, I did hear a move to strike out of Wilmott – where’s a lighter I can hold up ?
This is an example though, of ill prep and lack of experience by this defense. They know now this is a forensic case.
B
Lastly, this witness was a snooze until now. He is absolutely deflating Dr. Horne’s attempts at playing neuropsychologist or neurosurgeon.
B
The states case is that Travis was incapcitated by stab wounds first, So any testimony about how travis would not be incapacitated is only useful if jury buys shot first, and that is coming from Arias.
In ninja story, Arias said thegun was used twice, first to shoot travis then pointed at her head, a click, and nothing came out.
I think this is a way of saying the shot came after the stabbing, jmo.
gotta say-
Speculating at this point that Arias did not act alone may have more to do with the incredulousness of her cruelty and overkill. The crime scene photos are incomprehensible to a reasonable person. Defense acknowledges this by saying Arias was not reasonable in the normal way, because she was abused. They are asking the jury to understand the overkill because of what Travis did to her that gave her PTSD. They WANT the jury to wonder, how on earth is this possible , was she really abused to this degree, was there someone else. They are bankng on the incredible nature of the crime.
Arias is being judged for the crime she admiitted she committed. If there was anyone else involved, and she hasn’t outed them, that is just another part of the crime. So to me, either way, she is still wholly responsible for this travesty.
lyla says:
May 1, 2013 at 4:36 pm
Willmott and Geffner are now analyzing a picture of the brain and projectile (bullet) damage to the brain. They are attempting to refute the ME’s testimony regarding the bullet wound to Travis’ head. Geffner’s saying according to Horn’s report the bullet did not pierce the dura mater surrounding the brain thus it would not cause incapacitation. The Alexander family is shaking their heads.
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I was shaking my head, too, Lyla, as I listened to Geffner’s testimony on the way home from work. It isn’t every day that you see a psychologist (neuro, or otherwise) who is willing to make an utter fool of himself by testifying outside his area of expertise. I was embarrassed for him.
Dr. Geffner sites two patients who had bullet wounds through the frontal lobe of the brain and survived. And suffered no long-term problems resulting from the gunshot wound. Wish Mr. Martinez had questioned him about this. Did they survive due to the fact they received medical care? My guess is yes. And just who is responsible for the fact that Mr. Alexander did not receive medical care?
Good point but that would be out of scope in he Surrebuttal.
B