Jodi Arias Trial Verdict Watch: Plea To Jury Deciding Arias Fate- Hang Before Manslaughter If You Must
…” Something happens to ordinary citizens when they get into the jury box. All of them become defenders of the Constitution. Every single time. Very difficult…”
-Roy Hazelwood, Former FBI Behavior Analysis Unit Section Chief R current co-founder The Academy Group.
Hanged v Hung
The death by hanging option is not a consideration in the event that the Jury in the Jodi Arias trial finds her guilty of murder in the first degree, or felony murder. The jury cannot “hang” Jodi Arias.
However, they can hang themselves. I am not referring to what they must have felt like to sit through four months of testimony in the heinous butchering trial in the murder of Travis Alexander. No doubt 18 days on the stand – the poster child of the girl your mom told you about that guys will f*ck but not marry, Arias’s own words and convenient selective “fugue” state should be considered cruel and unusual for regular folk doing their civic duty.
I could not end my pre-verdict coverage without an editorial that lapses into first and third person.
Hung can be a good word. Some examples:
- Relating to a portion of male anatomy for those not buying of the indifference to size
- He hung my new Mom’s Day necklace around my neck and it is super-sparkly.
- I hung my child’s first abstract-impressionist masterpiece on the wall in my office.
- We hung the ribbons for first place on the mantle.
- When the jurors in the Aries trial could not reach a unanimous decision on the first degree premeditated-murder and felony charges Judge Sherry Stephens announced the jury had hung and declared a mistrial.
Consider the alternatives before hurling the maters my way, if you will.
The fact that the judge ordered a manslaughter or “heat of passion” instruction at the last minute should be telling that there is great concern that the state has not offered the slam dunk serve-up for these triers of fact.
The trial started with the State disputing its own theory of the sequence of events between the Medical Examiner and the lead detective. It is followed by evidence that disputes the contention the victim was immediately incapacitated by having him standing over the sink after injury. Waa?
Hell, let’s just say it. There are 2 separate and distinct areas of a clear and unambiguous attack closely resembling a slaughter house with a substantial absence of blood in others.
Not to mention a picture of a severely wounded but not yet with a fatal neck slit injury of Travis one minute and two seconds later.
One minute and two seconds. Two hundred pound prime-fitness Travis and 115 lb. Jodi in a battle for life and limb and the State says she stabs him FATALLY first in the chest. Again, this contradicts the ME testimony. Travis Alexander was shot first, period. Whether or not that will make a difference to this jury I have no idea.
Considering this fatal wound was to his chest and NONE of the wounds to his back were even life threatening and clearly inflicted upon an individual who was not in motion- this makes zero sense. The whole macabre mess goes down in one minute and two seconds if the pictures are to be believed.
One minute and two seconds.
Whether someone believes Arias is guilty or not, as the state presented their alleged version of events, it is unlikely that all jurors are going to be able to conclude that the timestamps on the pictures and the state’s versions of events can both be true.
As an example- to my knowledge, socks do not leave what is called a footwear impression. There is clearly a “footwear impression on the bathroom floor in blood. There was a pair of Travis’s gray socks in the washer. They are the same color as the ones seen what appears to be over a shoe in one of the pictures in evidence. Doesn’t that mean she was there long enough to do 2 loads of wash? Possibly.
There are more unexplained incongruences in the State’s case than there are journal entries of this defendant. It gives me great pause. Juan Martinez’s closing argument stated theory that is medically unsupported in this case and overall. Pause layering.
In a murder case with more forensic evidence than any one of the eight seasons of Criminal Minds has featured in a one hour episode, it is unsettling to see how much of it presumably not tested nor introduced as evidence was.
I have never seen juror questions in a capital case following re-direct before but I paid very close attention. There were many prospective deliberating jurors asking what I would consider questions indicative of folks with forensic knowledge.
… “How Do I love thee, let me count the lies…” Juan Martinez
Juan Martinez alleged that Arias deleted only pictures that implicated her, however, Michael Melendez testified there were roughly 90 pictures remaining on the camera that WERE NEVER introduced into evidence. It was a juror who asked that question among others regarding the highly prejudicial and for my taste, unverified camera card evidence. This jury is paying attention to the details.
Which means they are paying attention to the painfully few details offered as well.
Add in the very embarrassing and contradictory testimony of Dr. Horn who while he “sees dead people” apparently is not so big on the reporting of same. We now we have a prosecution relying almost entirely on the testimony of the medical examiner to support its theory and he shows up in rebuttal with a 3rd version of errors he calls a typo. Not helpful when the “immediately incapacitated “and non-ambulatory terms were used to discount a struggle between Travis and Jodi.
Dr. Horn may not know it yet but his testimony was downloaded to viral status by every reputable law school or criminal justice professor following the trial. Not in a good way when the syllabus header is “What Your Witness Can Never do.”
If she brought the gun for pre-meditation purposes, why was he not dead from the gunshot wound? Why was he stabbed at all? It leaves the jury looking over their shoulder to what possible half-truths Arias slipped into to bolster her defense.
Is anyone buying the pedo allegation? No. Does not matter. Again, I don’t think the jury will ultimately think PTSD or BPD or even her purchased DD’s will have any weight in the theory they adopt to reach a verdict.
Kirk Nurmi does not like his client. Jennifer Wilmott liked her client too much and giggled and whispered her way through court most days. Arias was scribbling for dollars and refusing to look at experts she did not like. Juan Martinez badgered his own witnesses when they did not respond to his liking. He throws things in open court like my son did as a toddler. He then tells the jury to not stink of gas. Wilmott and Nurmi are the Fred and Wilma of law. Esteban Flores sat in court for 4 months handing exhibits to Martinez instead of a second prosecutor who could kick him under the table. What’s with both media investigators having Brooklyn accents, lol?
All of it and none of it matters once that door shuts again Monday morning.
It comes down to the evidence they can trust with their own eyes and that was scant, and as I proved is suspect without further analysis.
This case has proven to be the highest profile case since the Anthony verdict and we all know how well that went. The Cword was overcharged to what the State could prove in both theory and evidence and she now spends her days figuring out how to not pay the myriad of folks who secured her freedom.
But that’s just it. She’s free and her daughter Caylee is no less dead. She is no less responsible for her death. Just not guilty.
Let’s focus on the successful hangings of the past: Betty Broderick, The Menendez brothers, Phil Spector.
The second time around was the charm. In many ways, the State and jurors are on the same team as public servants. You might also consider that as such, it is ok to demand the tools you need if you feel that has not been provided to you. It happens.
Strictly my opinion, but a manslaughter conviction for the murder of Travis Alexander is not justice for him, nor is it justice for his family. It is like saying we believe everything else, except the part where he had the right to fight for his life while under attack. That would be injustice. As much as I loathe the prospect of Travis Alexander’s poor family having to sit through another trial, I fear for their pain of a manslaughter verdict more. I fear even more than that this jury convicting Jodi Arias of manslaughter puts her back in society in short order and I for one believe the women is only partially diagnosed and extremely dangerous.
It is ok to make the state prove their case so you can do for the next jury what was not done for your service.
Lastly, it should also be a consideration that should the state decide to re-investigate and retry this case with the proper diligence, faced with what I believe is the as yet unknown motivations and the true events of June 4th 2008- Arias will have no choice but to plead guilty.
I am aware the argument that this is another bite at the apple for Arias- the clumsy apple-slicer that she is, but I firmly believe that even she could not dream up a defense that would hold up.
29 stab wounds, a shot to the face and a neck slit from ear to ear from a dropped camera is not going to be an easy discussion with its moving parts and missing cogs- if you can’t make it run don’t try.
So consider this my plea to that juror who is spending the weekend not deliberating (respectfully submitted that move in itself is mind-boggling) and will deny they ever read this.
Conversely, consider this my kudos if you read this after you were able to convict Arias as charged or hold the State and by virtue- our constitution accountable for a do-over. The case in chief that will allow the next jury to render a verdict in a capital case worthy of easing your conscience and commitment.
We The People CAN mean We Have To BE The People when called on to do so. Godspeed whatever you decide.
Contributing Editor Jacqueline Beaufort
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@GeorgiaDad
(snipped ) “As a result, due to social media, we all have differing perceptions of this trial, the victim and the perpetrator. In some ways, we all did watch separate trials. In fact, most of us know important details which were never presented to the jury, such as the gun and knives she had when arrested. I know why this information was not presented, but the rest of us cannot really un-know it.”
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It is interesting to note Jodi has no criminal history prior to killing Travis Alexander. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior…or is it?
http://www.dhra.mil/perserec/adr/psychconditions/psychframeset.htm
I do believe Jodi has serious mental problems and if set free she will strike again. I hope I have 12 jurors now in deliberations who are on the same page.
Just want to point out that when Arias lived with Bobby Juarez, she was minor, like 15- 16.
She purchased a house with Daryll brewer and stopped paying her share, in essence defaulting on a loan.
The first is criminal behavior on Juarez art, second , irresponsible.
She was a time bomb.
““What this evidence shows it is that either what happened is that Jodi Arias defended herself and didn’t know when to stop, or she gave in to a sudden heat of passion…Ultimately, if Miss Arias is guilty of any crime at all, it is the crime of manslaughter and nothing more,” said Nurmi.”
I hope the jury realizes there is absolutely not one shred of evidence that Travis Alexander ever physically attacked Jodi Arias.
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/05/03/jodi-arias-trial-defense-closing-arguments-kirk-nurmi-live-blog
Whodunnit
Do you know that Bobby Juarez was older than 21 at the time Jodi was living with him? This would make any sexual activity between them statutory rape on his part. Having said that and being familiar the the common mores of Hispanic people, this is not uncommon. Mother and father would not think anything of it nor would they create any steps to correct the situation.
I did notice near the end of the trial, when JM was making his rebuttal closing, that Jodi had a moment of being scared. She drew a long shakey breath while looking at JM.
whodunnit says:
May 6, 2013 at 5:38 pm
Just want to point out that when Arias lived with Bobby Juarez, she was minor, like 15- 16.
She purchased a house with Daryll brewer and stopped paying her share, in essence defaulting on a loan.
The first is criminal behavior on Juarez art, second , irresponsible.
She was a time bomb.
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Hi Who, I really enjoy reading your posts. Recently, I watched more video of JA’s parents being interviewed by LE. One of the things that struck me was her mother’s comment that JA was very badly in debt. Apparently, JA had max’ed out several credit cards during the end of her relationship with DB and was still in debt at the time of Travis’ murder.
You know what I find very interesting about that Grace? She never filed bktcy and their are no judgements in her name. That does not ghazinta.
B
GeorgiaDad…I am perplexed by this statement “As we await the verdict, I am left with a sense that a big chunk of the story is missing, a feeling that everything doesn’t add up. As a result, if I were on the jury I would find her guilty of murder, but would probably not vote for the DP (even though I support the DP).”
You may not know everything that happened in Jodi and Travi’s lives, or in their relationship, but do you really have to know when it comes to slitting someone’s throat ear to ear? If she said she was abused and she killed him out of anger because of the savage treatment, and someone else knew about this treatment, the jury would probably let her go. But she’s claiming self defense and self defense stops when you could walk away and didn’t. She had plenty of times during that murder to walk away from it and didnt. Her motive was to make certain he was dead…that’s enough for me to say “not self defense, guilty of Felony murder at the very least. Premed in my opinion, but at least Felony murder.”
I did a little research today on high profile cases and the length of time people deliberate. It varies a lot. Some guilty verdicts took a very short time (4 hours), and some took a week or more. Other cases the innocent or reduced charge was given in a short time, others it took a very long time. I think the bottom line is that we have no clue whether a long deliberation means guilty or innocent (or reduced) until that jury renders their verdict.
I cant remember all the jurors that were alternates, but I believe it was 10, and 15. I cant remember the third. Which means, after reading the descriptions of the jurors, it was one older man and the youngest man (in his 20s).
I think we will see a verdict in the third day of deliberations…at or just after 5pm.
I was on a jury (not a murder case) that lasted 5 days. The first day we selected a forman and just read through the paperwork again (we only had about an hour the first day). The next day we started talking about the details of the case and asking a first impression/opinion. Some were not certain of their stance, so we went over evidence and notes. By the third day everyone concluded their decision. Im hoping that is the case here…I hope they are all convinced of her guilt and the strong opinions are able to sway the weaker ones toward the logical and truthful side. Im praying that the truth is known and that justice is served.
NaNa- heart u but if you make a research statement like that I will ask you to source please.
B
Blink I really like the last summary you wrote and have read it several times
I had wondered why you did not seem as positive as usual in this case
And now I see why
Anyway I hope little Jodi is sitting waiting and realizes this jury has her fate in their hands
She is not in control
Thank you my dear Malty- kudos to Rose as well for lighting my charge, lol. You are correct that Jodi has to know none of this is in her hands regardless of outcome.
I remember watching Ms. Reid in court in closing. That is one classy lady and Napolean’s 2 legged Mom. I admit feeling glee that would bother miss lead pencil shortie.
B
Blink, forgive me for not siting my link. I researched during lunch today from my phone. Here is the link:
http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2013/03/19/jodi-arias-trial-famous-trial-deliberation-times
Thank you Nana, I appreciate it my friend. You are of course forgiven. Aren’t we all scattering and scurrying with anxiety?
It means we care.
B
I am thinking now that if the jury were hung up on murder 1 vs. murder 2, it would be relatively easy to sway the 1′s to the 2s. I mean, it’s been a LONG trial and the jurors probably want to get back to life. If I were a juror and wanted murder 1 but could not get others to agree, I might pick murder 2 just because it would be LWOP. Having said that, I am afraid that manslaughter is being pushed here. If I were a juror wanting murder 1 and others were at manslaughter, I would hold out until I could bring them to my side. I think that the delay in decision is a bad sign.
Yes Starsky. Exactly the point of my piece- but honestly, even if they convict on either murder charge, I do not expect to see that before Thursday or Friday in this case.
B
Hi Grace
Thank you!! Ditto!!
Graceinthehills writes:
. One of the things that struck me was her mother’s comment that JA was very badly in debt. Apparently, JA had max’ed out several credit cards during the end of her relationship with DB and was still in debt at the time of Travis’ murder.
You know what I find very interesting about that Grace? She never filed bktcy and their are no judgements in her name. That does not ghazinta.
B
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As I understood it, Brewer took over the payments, Arias moved out- and knowsif the house was even in her name- she could have signed a quit claim when they broke up. All we know is that hse and Brwer both said they bought a house together.
But my gut is that she never fully intergrated into ” grown up world” and as a highschool drop out with sporadic teacher jobs couldn’t even qualify for a loan,, Now that i think about it, that whole house buying scenario is fishy.
Arias never would have filed bankruptcy in any case , that is for people who intend to live within society at some point, and she has a criminal mind. if she was in real debt, I am sure she was very worried about losing any financial support she could get from Travis and wanted out of the money she owed Travis for ruining his car. perish the thought that she was trying to seel him the sex tapes and the photos as blackmail…
Like her drawings, she was just mimicing the world around her. Was never surrounded by paragons of virtue from what I can see.
I still say anyone who can draw a thousand single strands of hair, like in her bizzarro portraits, has the mind set to plan things out in great detail.
This is all just opinion as I ruminate, awaiting…
House was foreclosed.
B
Starsky says:
May 6, 2013 at 8:20 pm
I am thinking now that if the jury were hung up on murder 1 vs. murder 2, it would be relatively easy to sway the 1′s to the 2s. I mean, it’s been a LONG trial and the jurors probably want to get back to life. If I were a juror and wanted murder 1 but could not get others to agree, I might pick murder 2 just because it would be LWOP. Having said that, I am afraid that manslaughter is being pushed here. If I were a juror wanting murder 1 and others were at manslaughter, I would hold out until I could bring them to my side. I think that the delay in decision is a bad sign.
Yes Starsky. Exactly the point of my piece- but honestly, even if they convict on either murder charge, I do not expect to see that before Thursday or Friday in this case.
B
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The penalty for 2nd degree murder in Arizona is not less than 10 or more than 22 years. This is why JM would not accept a plea of 2nd degree. Marcia Clark just predicted that a verdict will come in tomorrow. I would not be surprised if it took a few more days.
I think the speculation by Ms. Clark is based on the jury changing the schedule to 10am from the agreed upon 9:30am. This is tea leaves, imo. and respectfully submitted I cannot even believe Marcia would go on record with a jury guess. lol.
I am with you Grace. I will be surprised if they reach a verdict, if it comes down before Thursday or Friday.
Yes, with no criminal record and the right pre-sentencing report, she has almost half her time in- is it actual time or good time in AZ?
B
Case is too serious. I needed a good laugh.
How Jodi sees herself:
http://sprocketink.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Arias-582×800.jpg
How others see her:
http://tamaratattles.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/jodifinger.jpg?w=529&h=638
blink writes:
House was foreclosed.
B
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yes that came out that the house was lost- but I was never clear whether arias was a title holder before foreclosure. It was all murky.
@NaNa
Thanks for the laugh…”tempus fugit”.
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Starsky says:
May 6, 2013 at 8:20 pm
The penalty for 2nd degree murder in Arizona is not less than 10 or more than 22 years. This is why JM would not accept a plea of 2nd degree. Marcia Clark just predicted that a verdict will come in tomorrow. I would not be surprised if it took a few more days.
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Oops. The max is 25 years. Will proofread before I send next time!
I think this jury realizes that Jodi has multiple mental problems. The thing that will be hard is making the choice between LWOP or death.
That debate may take quite a while. Second degree murder is 25 years. If Jodi has been jailed for nearly five years, she will get credit for that time leaving 20 years. If she behaves herself and is able to accumulate “good” time of two days towards the sentence for every day served, she could get out in ten years. This is not to the benefit of society. I think the jurors have considered this and it will be rejected.
I thought the law in Arizona was:if not all jurors can agree on murder one charge (some or even one are set on murder 2), then they all have to rule it murder 2. that is the only thing that makes me nervous about this seemingly very astute jury.
the evidence strongly suggests, but does not slam dunk on premeditation and it only takes one person to not be convinced of that.
however, my gut has been telling me: murder one verdict-tuesday.
They must have a unanimous verdict for any charge JR
B
@NaNa
That was great fun
I also laughed when I saw where Jodi didn’t get the cupcakes and pickles
And salted chub she ordered from the commisary
Over the weekend
Can you believe her??
I know Murder One is the correct verdict.
But Mr. Nurmi ‘s words keep spinning in my head.
“What if she just snapped! “
B, Thanks for the insightful and entertaining piece. Both your expertise and snark are appreciated during this frustrating time. I totally agree that manslaughter would be an injustice, and although painful, hung jury and re-trial (investigated correctly) will be the only way to prevent this monster from preying on another victim(s). An example: Jodi already has her stunningly beautiful ex cellmate doing her dirty work via twitter. Fingers crossed…
TY.
B
I keep reminding myself that it took the jury in the Scott Peterson case 7 days to find him guilty of 1st degree murder. I pray for justice in this case.
Elizabeth-
I think Jodi snapped way before she ever met Travis, jmo.
elizabeth says:
May 7, 2013 at 6:35 am
“I know Murder One is the correct verdict.
But Mr. Nurmi ‘s words keep spinning in my head.
“What if she just snapped! “
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I don’t believe “snapping” alleviates anyone of first degree murder. jmho
Elizabeth, to your comment in re Nurmi’s “What if she just snapped”.
Pre-meditation can be seconds. Seconds. So, if you ignore all of the precursors to this murder since May and possibly prior to that, and put aside Arias’ trojan horse ride into Mesa – the dyed hair, gas cans, excess mileage when broke, license plate, no fly zone, alibis, white rental car – and suppose that Arias arrived for a friendly visit… and sometime therein she snapped… she had time between the snap and all three murders to change her mind.
Even if she snapped on the first murder, she had time between murder nos. 2 and 3.
People, she massacred Travis Alexander! Big difference between self-defense which would look like running frantically from a wet, naked man versus chasing same man through the house with a knife followed by the barbaric act of dragging the kill back to the cave.
What does a “snap” look like in normal humans? Cry, holler, scream, throw something, slam doors… slice a throat open to the brim of decapitation?
Reality check. I fear that the rhetoric of and length of this trial has played on the minds and softened some judgements. I repeat, from Joseph Goebbels whose campaign convinced Germans that the Jews were their enemies:
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”
This is the only tactic that I believe the defense counsel used effectively.
I pray that the jury “snap” to reality and realize that neither the circumstance nor the predator are normal and that this was a heinous, evil deed played out in vengeance by a scorned succubus in human form.
Jden- hoping to head off what I think could be some offended readers by your post, which I know was not your intention. However, using a Holocaust analogy is never well received when the issue here is really not suggestibility or the ability of a PERSON or PERSONS words or deeds convincing normally brainy folks.
What we are talking about, and I laid this out yesterday, is what was proven, provable by extention now that the jury is deliberating and the effects of same on 12 people in an effort to potentially put this woman to her death.
I don’t think I have really seen where anyone does not believe Jodi committed first degree murder, myself included. What I feel is being discussed at length is whether the State met the burden and whether the defense imparted reasonable doubt.
As you know, I think neither. What I think is worse and what I suspect COULD be proven if the state had another bite at the apple. Does not matter if this jury convicts her of course.
I am not sure we are all respecting the task this jury has and the available and unavailable tools it has been given to preform it. Unless their first vote was unanimous as to charge and everyone high fived each other and made hair appointments this morning for the press conference that will no doubt occur, these people are going to be debating the same issues we are and with luck reach a conclusion.
No fairy dust here. As an example, let’s say you were in this jury room and those that were on the fence or not marching the goosestep first time around, and you lob that analogy- I submit a few more might fall out.
B
Eloise says:
May 7, 2013 at 10:06 am
Elizabeth-
I think Jodi snapped way before she ever met Travis, jmo.
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You got that right, Eloise. Listen to JA’s mother describing JA’s usual manner of interacting with family and friends. Imo, in the months leading up to Travis’ horrific overkill, underneath JA’s calm façade there was a maelstrom of chaos and destruction brewing.
who lets a 15 year old move out with her boyfriend and not seek mental health intervention? I will tell you who. A woman in fear and a woman afraid of what she would be told. Yes, I do feel that a lack of parenting can occur when you have 6 diners. When I watched the Mother’s interview the disconnect was glaring to me. Jodi did not bond with her mother. Major signage there.
B
“I wanted so much to avoid trial but the state ‘forced it”. My only other option was suicide and well….”
Most recent tweet by Arias. And well? Well, what? Loved when Juan said, “She’s still here.”
-The effects of KY overdose by being absorbed by the body. Let that be your lesson of the day people.
lol, kidding, we need that today.
B
Blink, respectfully taken and thank you. I honestly did not consider the depth of that analogy and sincerely apologize for anything that may be construed beyond the basic principle of reinforcing lies.
I know you did not, and apology accepted of course.
B
Well I was hoping to have the verdict yesterday. My original feeling was that it would be Wednesday. No matter when they come back with their verdict, by their questions, they are being thorough as they should.
Isn’t deliberation time 9:am pdt/edt 12:pm? It’s 9:46am pdt here and jurors have not started deliberations according to HLN.
Moved to 10:00 pdt today
B
@ Jden says:
May 7, 2013 at 11:04 am
“I wanted so much to avoid trial but the state ‘forced it”. My only other option was suicide and well….”
Most recent tweet by Arias. And well? Well, what? Loved when Juan said, “She’s still here.”
-The effects of KY overdose by being absorbed by the body. Let that be your lesson of the day people.
Slippery slope for sure.
B
lol, kidding, we need that today.
B
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Actually, Defendant Arias, your first best option was to simply walk away. Gotta watch out for those KY addictions, seriously.
OMG, spewed my coffee!
I should probably be more cognizant of sliding those things in without proper notice.
O yeah, this jury better come back soon or it could get brutal round here.
B
You mean In here?
How sickening is that? I’m thinking infringement on my good name.
http://jodiariasisinnocent.com/the-survivor-t-shirt-jodi-arias/
She is so disgusting. She doesn’t know the first thing about domestic violence.
Survivor says:
May 7, 2013 at 2:37 pm
OMG, spewed my coffee!
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I should probably be more cognizant of sliding those things in without proper notice.
O yeah, this jury better come back soon or it could get brutal round here.
B
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Oy. My Pepsi just came out of my nose!! D
LOL I KNEW You a Pepsi Person, just knew it
B
I meant:
From a friend who lives in Maricopa County:
“From what I hear,, most people believe she is guilty and should face death penalty/or life. Such a brutal killing; yet most I hear think jury may have sympathy since she held together so well. When defense attacked Travis’s character in closing arguments, that DID NOT SIT WELL with our local press,,,”
Has anyone else vomited today?
ROTFL.
No, but that is because I ate a giant grilled cheese 40 minutes before the first time I attempted to run since I broke my foot in January and once the boot was off, now have some syndrome that sounds like it needs a purple pill but does not.
Wearing my spiritual hat v my proff hat for a second- While begging for strength for me just to get through the first milestone that reminds me of when I had my children and it sucked as much then ( the coming back part, not my babies, I lub lub them) I told Travis that whatever happens I am glad he affected my life and I think of his smile and it reminds me that things we think are not possible really are. I don’t believe that folks in God’s grace focus on the whatever befell them so I did not mention the lizard.
And then, it poured.
It is a good sign I say.
B
Travis’ friend, Tamara Mauro is speaking out about the logistics of Arias’ account and Travis’ home:
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/05/jodi-arias-story-fatal-flaw-story-about-house-travis-alexander-friend-says/
And, here she pens a beautiful, heartfelt and respectful open letter to the jury.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/05/open-letter-jodi-arias-jury-trial-travis-still-gone/
It is a good sign I say.
B
I’ll take that for now. Yes, I bet Travis would like to skip the Lizard- he experienced more than enough of that.
Palmar-Plantar Erythrodysesthesia? PPE or some other compartment syndrome, Blink? Sorry to hear that. Hope you can get that resolved–it may take some time and, sry, no running. In crushing injuries, some of these syndromes require a fasciotomy (don’t look at Google images, okay?)
I’m glad you wear your spiritual hat when running–or attempting to run. I will follow your lead and do my “talking” to those I need to release to the sweetness of the universe.
In that vein, there is no charge for the above, curbside consultation.
WG
I just heart you WG. XOXO
Not in the vein as it were, so good to hear. Ba dum bump.
Piriformis Syndrome with bursitis. A combination RMI and brokey foot and 5th meta fracture injury due to overcompensation. I was Forest Blink for a spell. Just lovely. I just felt like runnin’. It is the first time I have had a running shoe, or any closed shoe on my right foot since January. I feel very fortunate to be able bodied and sound enough to bitch and complain about nonsense occurring while I am trying to get better, and accepting of the strife of others to help that endeavor so it is not “for not” in some way.
B
Absolutely.
B
Didn’t mean to imply that Palmar-Plantar Erythrodysesthesia was foot compartment syndrome. That’s a post-chemo condition or medication-induced. Just was saying that “purple pill” reminded me of something colorful like Erythrodysesthesia. You may now all carry on, because I’m just getting in deeper.
It was my lame pharma launch background play on words for an erection over 4 hours, not you, lol.
B
Arizona by legislation in 1968 does not observe Daylight Savings Time.
It is on Mountain time except for the Indian tribal area in NE Arizona.
If one is on EDST, there will be one hour difference rather than the normal two. CDST will match Mountain time for Arizona rather than being one hour difference. PDST will be two hours difference rather than one.
The waiting game….the jurors need our thoughts and prayers to bring justice for Travis.
In the back of my mind the TV show “Branded” came to mind. No matter what happens JA will be forever “Branded” as a murderer and liar. JA= SHE-DEVIL, MOO.
snot for snot, B, I agree.
Piriformis Syndrome is a pain in the butt. I’ve got it and so does my hair cutter. dagnabit.
I hope you play Forest Blink with some ammo on you. You know Mr. Blink would be really mad if you got got.
What it’s really about is that perspective of making our own happiness, our own sense of freedom, our own responsibilities, and our own satisfaction at the end of the day. That’s when we pray for others–we pray that they may be granted all of the good and wonderful things we want for ourselves.
If only everyone could know these things? Would we have fewer JA’s?
Maybe we should have suspected when the jury started calling her Jodi in those juror questions!
As for this discussion Blink started about a retrial, I have serious reservations. I think Mr. Martinez may have outdone himself this time. Hard for me to imagine him doing a repeat. But I basically know nothing about this stuff. I did successfully predict the Anthony verdict and I can live with it knowing there is nothing more the Anthony’s can do to hurt Caylee. Somehow that thought doesn’t give me as much peace with Travis.
Tomorrow is another day; the jury will arrive at a verdict eventually. With the trial consuming four months of their lives they deserve our indulgence… and our acceptance.
Tomorrow (Wednesday) is the day I predicted the jury would find Arias guilty (by 5pm Arizona time).
If Wednesday is not the day (but i BELIEVE IT WILL BE), they will conclude within the week.
Verdict is coming soon…hang onto your seats!
here is a link to the instructions given to the jury.
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/link/634308/document-final-arias-jury-instructions
They are a very interesting read, and doing so may give more insight into what the jury is debating.
Everything is spelled out quite clearly, as far as what the jurors should do.
Most important is that it DOES say that the juror can connect the dots, that there is a difference between reasonable doubt and NO DOUBT. The judge is NOT asking that there be NO doubt….
continued:
before I do this- just know that part of the jury instructions are that they are not to isolate one part of the instructions, unless what is being considered makes that instruction a moot point. ( simple and complicated, you gotta read the whole thing)
but to isolate just one sentence, which in this case I think is so very important:
” There are very few things in this world that we know with absolute certainty,and in criminal cases,the law does not require proof that overcomes every doubt”
These instructions truly leave it up to the jury to examine evidence and figure out what happened– with their own judgement.
As I understand Blink to say, neither side has provided a water tight scenario. I agree, and that is the problem.
But after reading these jury instructions, it appears to me that the jury can come up with their OWN scenario, that it doesn’t HAVE to be the state’s specific scenario- that they could come with something else that made her just as guilty of murder one as the State did….
This is the first time I have read jury instructions for any case, so I amy be way behind other posters on this!
If anyone has another interpretation of the instructions, please enlighten me- guess you could say I am now on a REAL learning curve about the justice system.
NaNa says:
May 7, 2013 at 11:35 pm
Tomorrow (Wednesday) is the day I predicted the jury would find Arias guilty (by 5pm Arizona time).
If Wednesday is not the day (but i BELIEVE IT WILL BE), they will conclude within the week.
Verdict is coming soon…hang onto your seats!
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I sure hope so, Nana. Not sure why this jury watch has me so antsy. The last time I felt that way was while the Scott Peterson jury was deliberating. I can’t imagine what Travis’s family is going through as they wait. God be with them.