McStay Family Murdered: Will Desert Graves Yield Their Killers?
Deserted in the Desert
Gianni Family Photo
Gianni Martelli McStay had rock star hair at only 4years old. His little brother Joseph, affectionately nicknamed Chubba- did as well. They both rocked a beanie like no other little dudes.
Chubba Family Photo
Gianni and Chubba were as inseparable in life as they were in death when they were recovered in a shallow grave in the Mojave Desert on November 11.
Their parents, Joseph, 40 and Summer McStay, 43, were located in a separate grave nearby.
A 3rd gravesite was found-but empty. A protected source not authorized to speak to the media has confirmed that at least one of the parent’s remains was bound by an electrical cord.
While formal DNA comparisons and autopsy protocols are pending, the manner of death in all four victims have been declared homicides.
Just about 50 yards off the intersection of Route 15 and Quarry Rd the family that San Diego County Sheriff’s Department (SDCSD) believed was “likely” voluntarily missing on their own and living in Mexico, was recovered in a 30 hour excavation process. An off road motorcycle enthusiast called the San Bernardino County Sheriff when he came across what he suspected was human remains.
Last April SDCSD forwarded the McStay case to the FBI based on their conclusions that the McStay’s had McGone to Mexico, following a lengthy complaint of their handling of the case by Patrick McStay, Joseph’s Father. Troy Dugal, previous lead investigator of the McStay case, appeared on several news and cable television programs over the last three years explaining there was “overwhelming” circumstantial evidence the family of four that was pictured crossing the border into Tijuana, Mexico the evening of February 8th, 2010 was in fact, the McStays.
Following the recovery, San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Office will maintain jurisdiction of the investigation.
Frenemies.. Frenethieves.. Friends.. Family or Cartel?
Who brutally murders innocent children and dumps them in a hole they dug in the desert?
Logically- someone who is very familiar with the area. Of course it is just as shocking and horrific to murder anyone, but it takes a specific brand of evil to murder a baby. Make that two.
There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that either Joseph or Summer McStay had any ties to drugs, associates with ties to drugs or cartel, at any time. None.
Contrary to a top selling book on the case, “No Goodbyes” by Rick Baker, there has never been any evidence whatsoever that Summer McStay was some sort of closeted psychotic and homicidal type. The book goes on to malign members of both Joseph and Summer’s families and in some cases outright accuses same of extortion or stealing. Baker’s subsequent public theory is that Summer murdered Joseph and everyone should be looking for her and the boys in Mexico.
Not surprisingly , Baker has requested Amazon pull his book from available stock and has offered refunds to prior purchases. Popular online sleuth sites previously promoting “No Goodbye’s” have since either deleted it’s hundreds of posts endorsing Baker, or moved them to a member’s only private viewing area.
Albeit obtusely, Baker does touch on a troubling and serious abuse allegation concerning Joseph McStay’s oldest son from his first marriage, Jonah, and his step-father, Michael McFadden. He writes summer filed a complaint with Child Protective Services after she and Joseph recorded a conversation with Jonah and placed a copy of same with a private party for safekeeping. Blinkoncrime.com has been able to independently verify that is accurate, but that the investigation was not known to be completed until shortly after the McStay’s disappearance. Under California probate law, Jonah would be an heir to the McStay estate or as otherwise provisioned in the instance of an existing will.
Interviewed by Laura Ling for E! Investigation, Joseph McStay’s web administrator Dan Kavanaugh claims he was the first to become concerned. In Baker’s book, he refers to him as a suspect and details how he alleges he was funneling cash from McStay’s business account before he or anyone else knew the family was missing. Kavanaugh has an unrelated open criminal matter in San Diego County according to court records.
Chase Merritt- Joseph McStay’s business partner in his water fountain design and installation business was the last number ever dialed from his phone at 8:28PM on February 4th. Merritt joined McStay in a lunch meeting earlier that afternoon where they discussed a proposal for a very large car wash chain to feature custom fountains in each facility. According to family friend MacCargar McGyver, McStay was very excited about the opportunity. Merritt claims he passed a voluntary lie detector test, and that he was adamant that Joseph McStay would never have taken his family to Mexico and has always believed they met with foul play.
McGYver spent several days leading up to February 4th at the McStay home due to a painter Summer hired not returning to complete the job. McGyver introduced Summer and Joseph and by all accounts was a close confidant of the couple.
Patrick McStay, Joseph’s Father living in Texas has had some harsh words for the investigation into the disappearance of his son, daughter in law and grandsons.
“…most botched, inept investigation I’ve ever seen in my entire life.”
He also believes very strongly that the list of suspects with motive to kill his family members is very short. Three, to be exact.
He said the department didn’t even bother to contact him to tell him his son’s remains had been found.
“I got a message from someone [on Thursday] on Facebook telling me to go and read an article,” McStay said. “The minute I read the article, I knew it was him.”
“I have exhausted and have so much information on three possible persons of interest. All have a motive.”
The three individuals are not connected to each other, but all of them seem like likely candidates. Patrick says one of them seems to be a particularly likely suspect: he’s a wealthy man with a long rap sheet that includes charges of attempted murder, assault with a deadly weapon and burglary. McStay says he, too, has a motive for killing his son.
Although Mr. McStay did not reference him by name, he may be referring to Michael James McFadden, who was arrested in July 1998 and charged with attempted murder and a litany of other felonies including great bodily harm to a child:
459/460(a) PC – Burglary 07/16/1998 02/25/2000 Dismissed
422 PC – Assault 07/16/1998 02/25/2000 Dismissed
273.5(a) PC – Domestic Violence 07/16/1998 02/25/2000 Dismissed
12022.7(d) PC – Infliction of great bodily injury on a child under the age of five … 07/16/1998 02/25/2000 Dismissed
422 PC – Assault 07/16/1999 02/25/2000 Dismissed
240 PC – Attempt to inflict violent force on another person. 07/16/1999 02/25/2000 Dismissed
245(a)(1) PC – Assault with a deadly weapon other than a firearm 07/16/1998 01/18/2000 Pled Guilty
12022.7(d) PC – Infliction of great bodily injury on a child under the age of five… 07/16/1998 02/25/2000 Dismissed
422 PC – Criminal Terrorist Threat 07/16/1999 01/18/2000 Pled Guilty
664-187 PC – Attempted Murder 07/16/1998 02/25/2000 Dismissed
You will note some of the charges are from 1998, others 1999 on the anniversary date, McFadden successfully negotiated a plea agreement and only pled to criminal terroristic threats and assault with a deadly weapon other than a firearm. Both felonies.
In the complaint he lodged against the detectives in SDCSD, Patrick McStay specifically references failure to interview key suspects he provided to LE directly.
Given the location of the bodies, it would seem that whoever is responsible would at least want investigators to think McFadden was involved. As a self-proclaimed mountain bike “racer”, McFadden has participated in several bike events in various locations all along the Route 15 Mojave corridor. SBCSO says they will be re-interviewing everyone in the case and have no suspects.
There have been no named suspects to date and the investigation is ongoing. Memorial or Funeral arrangements for the McStay’s have not yet been announced . LATE EDIT: The family and friends of the McStay family will gather at the grave site in Victorville, on Joseph’s McStay’s birthday.
To be continued in Part 2: Analysis of the last day of their lives points to involvement by someone they knew.
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Blink
Let’s just say that one of LE suspects was on the show last night and LE wanted to use their interview with CNN as evidence … would they have to wait for it to be aired before they could use it against them?
Thank you
Typically of they were to seize it, they would have to identify it’s contents specifically, so it is unlikely LE could subpoena something as evidence prior to viewing it, and honestly, likely more effective to let it be seen first.
B
Blink at one time your opinion
Was the family was killed at
The graves do you still think
That? Or has investigation
Showed otherwise?
I absolutely believe the family was killed at the site, absent information to the contrary.
B
Blink: With law enforcement not making a public plea for information, tips, etc., does that mean anything to you? I’m hoping it means they have what they need but are getting their ducks lined up in a row before presenting it to a grand jury. I’d love to hear your thoughts on this. Thank you, again.
On it’s own, it does not present a theory or status to me, no. Everyone needs to remember this case was nearly 4 years old, transferred back and forth between two agencies before SBCSD go it by way of the recovery of the McStay family.
There is one goal here. That is to deliver a prosecutable case to the State in the homicides ( In CA this will be a first degree murder case- subject to capital punishment) of the McStay family. In a case such as this, it automatically qualifies for what is called aggravators in criminal law.
While I am not encouraged by the amount of time that has lapsed, and the lack of updates, we should also consider that there are likely to be ancillary charges relative to the finances, which can delay things. Particularly, when family members are not pressing prosecutors or LE for updates for whatever internal issues linger. Lastly, why any LEO would take a call from RB in the middle of a death investigation is enough to breed concern for this investigation’s status.
B
What are your thoughts on the radio
Talk show that rb is gonna do? Will
It do more harm than good?
I am afraid I do not know anything about it, but I prolly do not need to. I do not find him credible in any way
B
Working on it, and yes, it was deleted. I will be featuring it in my piece.
B
Thanks Blink! I knew I could count on you. XOXO
Blink: How will I know when your piece on Erin Corwin is posted? I’ll admit I’m not very good at navigating your site.
Set your RSS feed, but I will post the link on a few older threads. In editing now. I apologize, I ended up having a few classes this semester start than I bargained for from waitlist status. The Summer of my discontent, lol
B
was.
B
Hi Blink
I have read & watched almost everything that I can on this awful tragedy. But, I do have a question. This may have been addressed previously, but this has bugged me since I watched one of the videos featuring Tim Miller. Mr. Miller was being shown the inside of the home by JM’s brother & SM brother. In the scene where Miller (I think) asked about the dogs, SM’s brother commented he doesnt know bc he was in Hawaii. Is it me, or is that a strange coincidence so was DK?
Thank you, I have really enjoyed this site! Also you mention part 2, have you posted that yet?
No, her brother lived there, different island.
B
@ Chelsea says:
May 7, 2014 at 11:39 am
This Rob Baker dude. I have come across someone who does this very thing. She calls herself a celebrity blogger. I became interested in her because she was so OFF. She has stalker complaints and throws herself into celebrity situations. It turns out she has a mental illness and will do anything to get attention. She has posted info that couldn’t be verified. When called out, she would not only delete her posts, but find a random person to blame for being a poor resource. AND…if you didn’t agree with her, don’t bother posting on her blog (she has had most of them removed due to cyber bullying and related complaints). She won’t post it anything that challenges her to ‘prove’ her work. She has created infinite twitter accounts, to hound celebrities for stories. She’s NUTS. Twitter finally clamped down on her, after 4 years of her psychotic net episodes. She has ZERO respect from authorities. The RCMP and Revenue Canada began investigating her net behaviours. I’ve never seen anything like this girl and how far she’ll go to get a story, even if she had to fabricate one. Like JA, she has borderline personality disorder and is bi-polar. Her sense of reality and self importance are grossly distorted.
This guy may be the same personality. He’s doing this for attention. He sees himself as someone important in this case, but is really quite clueless. From my own experience, I wouldn’t take his blog or his info about the murders too seriously.
Anyone hear of Chris Stark? (not the blogger I was talking about). I read her stuff in the past….only to learn everything she wrote was not true (friendLY, I understand if you redact the name). This woman had a HUGE following because of her social media posts regarding Caylee’s case. She was also posting about Jodi Arias and other cases, claiming to be a researcher for someone. She was outed and is now, nowhere to be seen on the net.
What we have here are people with their own theories, or are too comfortable with lying about what they really know about these crimes. It seems they have personal problems and need A LOT OF ATTENTION to feel validated in life. Too many of them out there. Approach with caution.
Just my humble opinion.
~waving to BOC friendies~
PS…another thing these types of troggers (troll + blogger) have in common….
Stealing material from other sources and making DMCA claims against them. Bold move considering the document is considered to be legal and binding. DMCA’s are terribly abused by these cheats. Most use an internet ‘fax’ to file these claims. COME ON!
I don’t want to miss your piece on Erin Corwin. Has it been posted yet and I’m not seeing it? I don’t know how to set my RSS feed – not the brightest bulb on the tree.
Thanks B!
Has not, part of my ethical obligations include requesting responses and fact verifications that are not what I would characterize as “speedy”. Adding to that speed bump is some undercurrent information that is developing- we are committed to running Monday at the latest if nothing breaks before then. I will post the link here
B
Re: a certain blogger who has attached himself to the Mcstay case, written a book about it pointing the finger at Summer McStay,said he was taking his book off amazon when the bodies were discovered, floated out a theory that it was cartel, ( which he disappeared from his blog moment slater, like so many other postings) offers an (unverified) reward of 125 k for info, the list goes on of his disinformation, misleading information and jumbled logic- all while begging the public to see him as team player in contact with LE.,, I think you know who I mean.
Here is my theory about him:
He is covering his bases against slander and libel, presenting a moving target to avoid taking responsibility for obstruction of justice. By changing his statements all the time, he can always recant and say- “but you see, I amended that, no harm no foul” and thus avoid charges of obstructing justice with slander , half truths and conclusions formed with faulty reasoning, to say nothing of his lack of credentials.
It is a very sad day when an individual demands personal attention that overrides the victims he claims to honor.
A responsible citizen who has certifiable valid information would be working with those in charge of solving the crime by presenting that certified and valid information to the authorities- period.
Clouding the internet with rumors and theories that inflame is wholly irresponsible, and no amount of double talk can justify his posturing.
Prayers for the McStays, who are being victimized again by publicity seekers.
BLINK:
Please do not feel you have to put this post in. If you feel it is contradictory and not approaiate, please leave out. Not trying to start a barrage of bashing , and I leave it to your judgement.
@whodunnit. I see his activities as engaging in building a “business”
(a business need not be for profit–it is a person’s “work” self-identity)
which is being grown by trial & error, the latest being a 3-hour radio-like
talk show with a dial-in audience. The enterprise(s) have been built
on McStays, but it could have been any other abduction
and murder mystery. What all the “grow the business” permutations
have in common is it’s all about marketing imo.
Rose says:
July 11, 2014 at 1:27 am
….@whodunnit. I see his activities as engaging in building a “business”
(a business need not be for profit–it is a person’s “work” self-identity)…..
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agreed.
ot
@Blink
was Corwin found a couple hrs ago near Desert View (a photo loc)
as a blogger elsewhere alluded to a Basin scanner saying helicopter being called in a couple hrs ago?
No.
B
ot
looking forward to the publication.
Morongo Basin seems real high crime (rape
falling under Other):
http://spotcrime.com/ca/morongo+basin
Yucca where she worked at tractor supply nearby?
Did not work at that one, that was in Oak Ridge, has been quite the weekend in that regard.
B
my cart btw is looking for the horse.
offering carrots & apples for the article.
LOL, I know, things are percolating and I had that heads up. By Mon am
B
Thank you, but I might respectfully suggest you be very discerning about where you get your information- there are mistakes of fact eminating from that camp on purpose.
B
Thank you B I will just (im)patiently wait for your piece to come out. I trust you as an honest source of information. No hurry up already. Lol
Thank you for saying that- because our credibility and integrity is paramount ( especially in a mp case) sometimes I have to pull back up to 30,000 FT and do another pass.
B
hmmmm. there are only 2 camps in the pot.
in the mcstay case there seem to be many camps:
patrick
mike
stepfather & mother of son
summer’s family
business partner
When I was thinking if Corwin’s not outside, she’s inside, that made me wonder if someone’s gonna kill a family, imo the usual would be to do it in their home (with a silencer) and walk away, not go to all the dusty burial work. Buying time, or misleading due to burial geogr proximity to a blameable person imo is not enough. It seems to me the killer(s) wanted access to the house and/or possessions for a period of time & that was a primary or secondary motive for murders.
I agree with you that they wanted to access to something, but I believe Merritt was on grounds the next day and there was no footage of any other cars in the driveway, animal control was called the next day as well, iirc. Am I going to off four people and head back into that potential witness pool?
I personally believe they were intercepted ( or one of them intially) on that bridge.
B
B
Imo jm was taken before he got home and sm was lured out of house
The problem with that theory though, is that JM was driving the rodeo that day, however, I do agree that it is possible via some permutation.
B
agree on bridge interception.
Means X knew his route & timeline.
Reminding me of a Bukula (W Ebersohn
author) plotlet.
So what he/ they sought access to was not in house proper?
Then why not kill them there rather than an intercept?
Rose
It is three minuets after midnight Eastern time Tuesday morning. I think your horse for the cart is aboard an airplane stuck in an approach stack near 25,000 feet and cannot be released to work its way down because of activities on the ground. Keep your carrots and apples ready the horse may get on the ground today.
Having fun with both you and Blink.
Blink said…
I agree with you that they wanted to access to something, but I believe Merritt was on grounds the next day and there was no footage of any other cars in the driveway, animal control was called the next day as well, iirc. Am I going to off four people and head back into that potential witness pool?
I personally believe they were intercepted ( or one of them intially) on that bridge.
B
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Blink, do you mean Feb. 9th when you say Merritt was on the grounds the next day and there was no footage of any other cars in the driveway?
Does this mean video footage confirmed there were no vehicles parked in the driveway on Feb. 9th?
No, I mean February 5th.
B
@AFT. 2 nites in a row, had 1 hour of sleep while
tending an ill dog. After 3 hrs at vet last nite, & 2 meds,
am hoping for improvement. wrt the OT case
of interest to Lynn & I, I’m plastered to the desert floor
but glad B is at cooler heights.
ROTFL
B
ATG I mean
oh, I’m understanding now. You mean likely he arrived home.
Then they all fled rapidly, & one or both riding in the vehicle with children
were intercepted at bridge, phones disabled, and so on.
Correct.
B
If the captor(s) took them straight to their desert execution,
then the killer(s) already had access to whatever
was motivating, or believed it would be in plain sight in home.
suggesting the killer(s) had previously been inside the home.
also were familiar with the evacuation route McStay would drive.
Partially- the bridge I am referring to was closed for construction.
B
Thank you for correcting me and confirming Feb. 5th and not the 9th.
In a video MM said there was a newspaper dated Feb. 5th under JM’s truck tire, and it had no tread marks on it which indicated JM didn’t go anywhere with the truck after the 4th. So the truck should have been on the driveway on the 5th. If there was no footage of any vehicles on the driveway on the 5th, MM isn’t telling the truth.
The footage would not show cars in the driveway per se- it was motion sensitive activated- I presume you are referring to the green truck.
B
Rose
This family abduction and murder was a well planned action. They were lured from the residence because the perps did not want the dogs to alert the neighbors. Dogs will make a lot of noise when something is happening to those that care for them. You should know about that.
Were the family leaving the area to hide themselves? Possibly. However, the bridge closure may have been the barrier to their escape and the perps knew of it. They simply set up a method to stop them there.
Hope your pup gets better and you get some rest. Trying to function on that little sleep is difficult. At least you haven’t lost your sense of humor.
Geeze and Rose may I add how is your pup? Harper sends love and licks.
B
@ATG
To play devil’s advocate- the perps may have known the dogs and known if the dogs were mellow or not. Someone planning this crime would have done their research especially if they planned on entering that home. You are generalizing that dogs will make noise if something is happening to someone they care about but that is not always the case. If Summer and the family were being held at gunpoint and are obeying orders when being tied up or whatever- well most dogs (at least mine) wouldn’t make any noise. The perps would probably not be screaming orders so the neighbors wouldn’t hear or the dogs wouldn’t start getting anxious.
My question is – did Summer and Joey leave the dogs outside when they would leave or did they only let the dogs out to go to the bathroom? If they always left them inside when they went somewhere then it would seem to me that someone ordered them to put the dogs outside.
What is also telling to me is that the Isuzu was backed in the driveway and when it left it pulled out of the driveway slowly. If they were in that big of a hurry why would you be going so slow? The only thing I can think of is that someone else was driving (or Summer under someone else’s orders?) and didn’t want to draw attention to themselves from neighbors.
Blink, yes, I am talking about JM’s green truck. TY!
With all due respect B, this desert floor is mighty hot and dusty. Could ya spare a little water? I promise to share with Rose. TIA
OT
yoo hoo to 30,000 ft.
wrt Erin C, Beasley is fab (a good observant citizen)
and flapping (as he should imo)
in interview, tho minus on iq pts maybe.
Perhaps just exhuberant on interview.
So my Q is, does the owner of search warrant apt have
a red sedan?
Imo after a few JT pics, she was headed to the horse
(vol) ranch (she thot).
is the horse rescue vol site actually JAMES (what I thot)
or White Rock?
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OT reply, perhaps patience from McStay case, as they too were dog owners.
TY for inquiries, ATG, B. Meds worked. Sleep improved.
I found this last year:
http://www.flyingpoodles.com/category/poodle-ibd/
my dau’s (she paid) dog’s littermate or a successor breeding. same issues.
I felt a little better to know we don’t suffer (and pay) alone. B, good recipes.
Ours Arrived from Oregon awash in the
unmentionable, lasting that time 6 mos. A pitiful life,
including for owners. I learned to never believe phone
interviews or unknown breeders’ claims.
And some heartfelt perspectives can be totally at odds with reality. Temperment alone was an A+++ hyperbolic lie.
—
now wrt “the cars”, the occupants, Beasley has a ring of truth.
Would he were also a buttoned down businessman with 120 iq.
All O/T:
1. Heart u, I am getting there, I may end up just publishing a small piece to create a thread, but somehow my instincts are working against that. We are busy working on it.
2. Breaks my heart on the pup breeder issue. We lucked out because we picked the breed, and decided we would not “ship it” before we learned there was a local breeder- definitely kismet. We were considering giving Harper a sister this Summer, but unfortunately we lost our breeder to her 3rd bout with breast cancer. She was the coolest and kindest lady with 20 years of experience breeding Norwich terriers and she has been 100% right about everything we ever asked her. With the exception of Norwich’s not liking water- Harper swims like a champ, runs the creek too- I sent her those videos constantly, lol. I hope it gets better Rose
B
imo it’s better to do it right when more is securely known
than a small piece with a speculative thread.
More important to have a secure overview & detail than be a
premature info entry.
Yes sensei- that is where this bird is parked at the moment, imo.
B
Rose
Small poodles are delightful pets. Full of energy when healthy and always doing strange things. We owned one for 14 years. A male that detested being left alone. He would not let me hold him, but if I sat down and removed my shoes, he would come over and spend time removing my sox.
He also liked sweets. We could not leave a cake or pie on a table unless we made certain that he had no way to get up there. We learned that one the hard way. We were having a thanksgiving dinner and had set aside a table for the deserts. One of the grandchildren pulled a chair over to the table so she could see what was there. Mr. sweet loving Teddie took advantage of the chair and we found him in the middle of a big cake after tasting two pies.
You know, I am not buying that so far. Working on It.
B
Just a few reflexions .
Why two graves…or three and why shallow.
Were they hand made is that the reason, but probably it quite heavy to dig in that soil by hand so if the killer(s) used a tractor were the graves shallow because they were in a hurry?
But if they had a tractor why spoil time on two…or three graves. It would be easier to just dig one.
Or were there multiple graves because the members of the family were killed at different times?
Can one see on the satelite pictures if there are more than one track?
If they were killed at different times maybe someone saw them or the killers somewhere……
@kw.
A social psychologist perspective, not a criminologist.
Yes 1 grave was more efficient, & in a group burial for purpose
of hiding product, expectable. That there were individual
locs suggest to me the “digger” was emotionally connected
& working in his version of normalcy, or was simply a concrete,
inflexible thinker. Certainly a “cartel,” “gang” type would just
do a mass hole,
One grave is only more efficient if it can remain undetected, and if it does not dilute the purpose- in my mind, the purpose was dual. Corwin posted by the am, in edit.
B
my uneducated opinion only above
Rose
Your idea about the graves has merit where the soil is soft and deep to making digging easy. This is desert land that is under laid with rock and other hard minerals. Unless one is familiar with a particular site, you would not know how difficult or easy a dig would be.
My take is that the graves were prepared in advance so the dig time was not critical. We even discussed about someone using a small piece of equipment to dig the graves. They could have been prepared some time prior to the abduction. The killers would only have to do the transportation to the site and place them in the graves that could be backfilled by hand. This is how they were closed when the forensics people completed their work.
I was surprised at how little rock was present in the pictures. However, we could not see much of the bottom of the opened graves so there could have been solid rock just below the excavations.
The horror of watching someone buried alive that you love could add to even more terror inflicted on that person you are focused on for what ever reason. We can not guess yet or possibly ever know what trauma, intimidation or fear this family went through. To know your child is in danger and you can do nothing has to be the worst of all fear you can experience.
OT…Rose I hope your daughter’s puppy is doing well…you are a good Mom for all the attention and time you have spent with her or him. My homemade dog food reciepe for a 15 ½ year old black lab with diarrhea and vomiting problems and my Groddle with skin problems. 4 pounds cooked ground turkey and a little coconut oil, 1 ½ cups dried quinoa cooked and a small can of pumpkin puree. I top it of with a little limited ingredient grain free kibble. It really helps with the tummy problems. I have not gone the raw diet yet.
xoxoxo to the pups. Harper darted down the yard because our neighbor is watching a new dog- and Dad took her out off lead. Dad is serving 10-20.
B
dual purpose gravesite?
This was an assassination in my view, it is my opinion that the monster (s) responsible had the parent or parents observe the murder of their children.
B
This one I hope you are wrong b…in my mind I have considered it. I try not to go there dont think we will ever know. Wish we could so all can be put to rest
That makes 2 of us alta- I am so ok with being wrong in this case or frankly any other.
B
It would change my poi also
To vj being crazy sm had chidren
With another man or mmcfadden
Over cps (kinda u try to take my
Son ill take yours ..just my thoughts
Blink – do you think CM’s failure to answer his phone that night was deliberate?
I am not sure he ever heard it after reviewing the cell records. I found no time where there was a missed call that was not returned or a follow up text pattern.
B