Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage
Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing, Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.
Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW, a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.
In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud- the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper, Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.
Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.
BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.
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@Theresa. I vote for paranoid schizophrenic,
but same can be very detail observant–just slot
the details into a fantasized storyline.
$&?$X Celtic Druidism fits in
http://www.starshipearththebigpicture.com/tag/svali/
“Svali: “The Illuminati is a group that practices a form of faith known as “enlightenment”. It is Luciferian, and they teach their followers that their roots go back to the ancient mystery religions of Babylon, Egypt, and Celtic druidism”
I would rather believe this woman is an exhibitionist paranoid schiz (an oxymoron), but then there’s Grover Partee and Neil, linked by facebook and beliefs.
—undoubtedly all this stuff has been here & debunked before but I missed it.
This is the only investigatory angle that would surprise me, and that I wouldn’t want to know.
And all because I went to Kaine’s FB on profileengine & wondered why his brother & stepfather were missing.
OT Once when I was describing what I personally knew about Fellowship Foundation, particularly Pentagon, State Dept, CIA, & Hill ties, to a prominant New Yorker writer (& legacy Rothchild family), she replied “sounds like the Illuminati (I didn’t know what that was). And I’ve just realized FF’s founder Vereide was from Seattle.
So my only point is a respectable journalist
thot the Illuminati really exist. FF are hegemony
evangelicals who would convert but not harm a child.
@CD you are right about the farm. I really like that google maps just downloaded it I have troubles with the other one So you say there are two pumpkin patch places No wonder I have been confused
@Theresa Merriman
That Tim Latimer has been around for awhile telling different versions of his story
About Kyron and a friend at Timberline Rim
@Sam
I had forgotten how Kaine wanted Terri to move Now But refused to give her moving money LOL
Looking for links I couldn’t believe all that went on I don’t want to meet Kaine in court
cd says:
July 3, 2015 at 1:31 am
There is a Pumpkin Patch on Sauvie Island . I researched this a long time ago and I think the people who owned the Pumpkin Patch farm on Sauvie also owned the house DAD rented. I believe that Kaine said that his family went to the Roloff farm in Hillsboro not the Pumpkin patch on Sauvie island.
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For some reason I was thinking they had been to both. Idk why. And I didn’ t know those people owned the Pumpkin Patch on SI. Creepy. I still wonder from time to time about DAD.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_parents_reveal_n.html
Snipped from above:
“They said they think search teams were frequently spotted on Sauvie Island because Kyron’s been on several field trips there, and his family visits a pumpkin patch.”
I would never want to meet Kaine period. DDS
says it more kindly. No wonder he hides from
pta mothers & sends Kristen.
@Bumble
I started the Roloff farms conversation simply because Matt Roloff, said that Kyron disappeared “really, really close” to their farm. The farm is some 5 miles away from Skyline Elementary, I was puzzled by that comment and I recalled LE searching near their farm, I was simply wondering why. IOW, was he told by LE or KH that Kyron or the infamous white truck had been potentially spotted near there?
Not implying that they had anything to do with Kyron’s disappearance at all. Then I remembered this, see my previous post:
http://www.katu.com/news/local/99801789.html
According to sources, two detectives and a canine search dog scoured the property of DeDe Spicher’s aunt along Northwest Bishop Road in Helvetia within the last two weeks.
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Not sure, but I think that area is near the Roloff Farm, is it? I think they were searching up there because of LE’s needing a DS connection.
The pictures on TMH’s FB in October 2009 show them TMH & all three kids at the Sauvie Island Pumpkin Patch. Doesn’t mean they didn’t go to Roloff’s as well, but just checking the FB photos shows only the SI Pumpkin Patch. The newspaper article below says “late last year”, which makes me wonder, do they do anything at Christmas time at the Farm? Maybe the article is just incorrect, because I also thought they went to Disneyworld in 2008, not 2009?
I was thinking I had seen a picture of Kyron @Roloff’s with Kaine, but I must have been thinking of Kaine only at one of his Kyron fundraisers they held there.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_blended_family_f.html
They play board games, go bowling with friends and take trips. In 2009, they visited Walt Disney World in Orlando, Fla. Late last year they went to the Roloff Farm in Helvetia where the reality TV show “Little People, Big World” is filmed. And recently, they peered at the animals at the Oregon Zoo.
iirc there is another pumpkin patch on SI and I think one was owned by a Skyline former parent who was also let go by Intel before his retirement vested.
I have seen there are enough conspiracy believers on the web such that I wonder how life goes
on for them. Don’t want to read any more. Anyway imo Neil’s FB friends speak to his cultural world.
cd, I didn’t know that the people who rented DAD his home also have a SI pumpkin patch. I know there is more than one there pumpkin patches to visit on SI, do you know which pumpkin patch?
@TRuth. The only problem with parsing specific words in the media is the O & others have played fast & loise with facts since day1, often using bios as sources, and they ll cooy each other like the telephone game distorting as they go along from article to article
Okay, so the 2009 pumpkin farm pictures and visit by the Horman’s was to the farm on Sauvie Island.
Blink can you confirm this farm was owned by DAD’s landlord?
Did the Horman’s also visit Roloff’s farm “in the months” before Kyron went missing?
I can confirm this much right now- the only member of the family to attend the Roloff farm was Kaine. who brought along one male friend in the Summer of 2008. Kyron was never there so I have no idea where the comments “one of Kyron’s favorite places ” came from unless it was in reference to watching the tv show?
B
others
http://www.thepumpkinpatch.com/faq.php
http://pdxpipeline.com/2014/10/01/portland-halloween-pumpkin-corn-maze-cabaret-krugers-farm-haunted/
See 5. and 6. http://www.skyblueportland.com/hauntingly-beautiful-sauvie-island-10-reasons-love/
O/T sort of:
After 32 years, guilty verdict returned in murder of teen found dead in ditch
A Washington County jury found a St. Helens man guilty Thursday of a 32-year-old murder that had stymied police until modern DNA testing linked the defendant to the killing.
After deliberating more than five hours, the jury convicted Kenneth Lee Hicks of aggravated felony murder in the 1982 rape and murder of 17-year-old Lori Gale Billingsley.
Hicks, 52, faces a sentence of 20 years in prison, with the possibility of parole after 15 years – Oregon law on Oct.10, 1982, when Billingsley’s body was found along Southwest Miller Hill Road in Aloha. Circuit Judge Thomas W. Kohl set sentencing for July 13.
The 11-day trial was unusual because Billingsley’s death remained a so-called “cold case” for many years after detectives initially were unable to develop a solid case. Authorities identified Hicks as a potential suspect soon afterward, but didn’t have enough evidence to arrest or charge him.
But a retired Washington County sheriff’s detective with more than 20 years of experience as an investigator returned in December 2010 to work part time on unsolved cases. The detective then sent evidence stored since the killing to a laboratory for testing.
(snipped, more@link)
http://www.oregonlive.com/aloha/index.ssf/2015/07/32-year-old_case_of_murdered_t.html#incart_river
This is exactly what Kyron’s case needs. I hope whomever this retired FBI person is that is reviewing Ky’s case, is not going down the same tunnel and goes back and looks at ALL of those 60 potential suspects and then some. Heaven Forbid, we have to wait 32 years for answers.
I can confirm this much right now- the only member of the family to attend the Roloff farm was Kaine. who brought along one male friend in the Summer of 2008. Kyron was never there so I have no idea where the comments “one of Kyron’s favorite places ” came from unless it was in reference to watching the tv show?
B
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Mr. Roloff said Kyron had been to his farm in the months before his disappearance. Strange statement to make if not true however we probably can’t entirely rule out that it is true.
I know we’ve talked about the validity of emails and whether or not people could get into another person’s account, so I thought you guys might find this interesting and it’s a little scary as well:
http://www.komando.com/tips/313851/dont-dare-lose-your-passwords-to-this-new-scam
(Snipped form page 3)
That’s nice of them, right? Nope. The hacker will also tweak your account settings with a second email address and have everything you do on the account sent to them.
“If they broke into your Google account, they’ll get a copy of every email you get in Gmail, along with other notifications. For other accounts, they can get notifications, or just use the second email address to log in whenever they want.
Security researchers are saying the hackers currently running the scam are more about stealing information than money or credit card numbers. In fact, given the nature of the scam, the attacks have to be highly targeted; there’s no way to automate this. However, I can see jealous exes taking advantage of this tactic as well once it becomes more well-known.”
Why would a father go without his children? In the Summer. One more weird thing.
Amys Sister says:
July 3, 2015 at 12:32 pm
snip>
I can confirm this much right now- the only member of the family to attend the Roloff farm was Kaine. who brought along one male friend in the Summer of 2008. Kyron was never there so I have no idea where the comments “one of Kyron’s favorite places ” came from unless it was in reference to watching the tv show?
Blink, I don’t doubt you, but this is out there.
snip>
Missiong Oregon boy, Kyron Horman’s parents, Kaine Horman and Desire Young have teamed up with Amy and Matt Roloff of TLC’s Little People, Big World to raise money for the search for Kyron.
Kyron has picked out a pumpkin at the Roloff family farm in the past and this year his parents picked one out for him, that they will leave at the wall of hope.
http://beefycow.com/kyron-hormans-parents-are-raising-money-at-tlcs-little-people-big-world-pumpkin-patch/
Yes, I am saying that is a false account, however it got started. The pic of Kyron in the pumpkin patch was on Sauvie. Kyron Horman was never at the Roloff farm and as all guests are required to sign in and execute media disclosures and paperwork- any reporter should have requested confirmation from the farm. Was never there. Kaine was there in Aug 2008 with an adult male personal friend.
B
mys Sister says:
July 3, 2015 at 12:32 pm
Okay, so the 2009 pumpkin farm pictures and visit by the Horman’s was to the farm on Sauvie Island.
Blink can you confirm this farm was owned by DAD’s landlord?
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I think it was the farm owned by Bob Egger.
I looked this up years ago didn’t keep by research notes. I can’t even remember what DAD’s actual name was now. After a few years and a couple of laptops I accidentally deleted my huge Kyron file.
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2012/10/woman_sues_sauvie_island_pumpk.html
http://www.wweek.com/portland/article-18135-smashing_pumpkins.html
In my search for THE pumpkin’ patch. Never saw this before.
LSTEX
Jun 29, 2010
Oh and you can bet Kaine has asked her the same thing. Why was my daughter somewhere else that day when normally she goes with you up to the school even when you are filming Kyron in some kind of production? Really all you did that day was take Kyron up there, his project was already there, that much has been established that they were supposed to be there the day before, you took one picture then left. Why couldn’t you take our child with you that day? I think this is one of the most telling things in the whole scenario.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_parents_reveal_n.html
Well we know it has been confirmed that Kiara was with Terri that day through several sources. Sounds like someone looking to posit fake theory.
B
Okay, I’m sidetracked, and FTR consider all comments gossip. The person posting about their daughter that normally goes to school with Kyron is a teacher from another school?
LSTEX
Jun 28, 2010
I would like to make this suggestion to Skyline Elementary school and all Portland schools for that matter.
When you are going to have an event where you are going to have all sorts of people milling about, you need to plan in advance crowd control.
When we have an event during the school day like this, there are tables set up right outside the office.
Everybody must come through the front door. Several employees are there, all visitors must sign in and give the name of the child they are with as many times last names are not the same. Nobody should get down that hall without doing this. Never ever leave side or back doors open under any circumstances, science fair projects or not. As a teacher we are many times having to haul stuff from the parking lot to our classroom. We just get a rolling cart or something or get some assistance to help carry things. Nothing should be done for the convenience of the parents, it should be done for the protection of the children. And get a security camera for the front door and keep it locked during the school day after all the kids are there. What a tragic lesson is having to be learned here
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_parents_reveal_n.html
T. Ruth says:
July 3, 2015 at 11:22 am
@Bumble
I started the Roloff farms conversation simply because Matt Roloff, said that Kyron disappeared “really, really close” to their farm. The farm is some 5 miles away from Skyline Elementary, I was puzzled by that comment and I recalled LE searching near their farm, I was simply wondering why. IOW, was he told by LE or KH that Kyron or the infamous white truck had been potentially spotted near there?
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I get that, T. Ruth, it just seemed like the conversation was spiraling downward with regard to the Roloffs. Getting too far off topic, I thought.
Yes, I am saying that is a false account, however it got started. The pic of Kyron in the pumpkin patch was on Sauvie. Kyron Horman was never at the Roloff farm and as all guests are required to sign in and execute media disclosures and paperwork- any reporter should have requested confirmation from the farm. Was never there. Kaine was there in Aug 2008 with an adult male personal friend.
B
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I wonder if the false account was started by Mr. Roloff making that claim?
That I cannot say- it could be his cursory record says “Horman” and therefore.. but I don’t think if that happened it was anything more than cross branding to capitalize on the googles. I don’t know that it was malicious, but it was not accurate.
B
@T. Ruth says:
July 3, 2015 at 11:22 am
“Not sure, but I think that area is near the Roloff Farm, is it?”
Google says 5 minute drive to Bishop Rd from Roloff Farms… 1.5 miles to the intersection, and then depending on where the aunt lives is the distance down Bishop (it’s not very long at all).
@ Rose says:
July 3, 2015 at 12:25 pm
“iirc there is another pumpkin patch on SI”
From my own experience, there are at least 2 pumpkin farms on SI… I’ve been to two there. Could be more… It’s fertile soil.
@TRuth, For you…lol.
l.p. says:
June 26, 2010 at 12:30 pm
I have never followed a kidnapping case, but seem to be tuning in to something off about this one. I work full-time as an Intuitive, but have made it a rule that I do not work in the missing persons arena. However, I had a very clear vision of a man involved in the disappearance – one of the strangest things was that he appeared to be a small person, or dwarf. I have kept all of this to myself, but happened to see a photo on this site that hit a nerve. Wondering who the fellow with the guitar is, and what his connection to Kyron is. Thank you.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/23/new-clues-in-kyron-horman-search-fact-or-fiction-you-decide/comment-page-10/
@CD, David Anthony Durham was his name. Huge bummer about your early notes.
Wasn’t this THE farm/patch? Kessinger’s?
Plumper Pumpkin Patch & Tree Farm, LLC
Directions:
Exit Hwy 26 at Cornelius Pass Rd, 2 miles north turn left at blinking yellow light. Continue 2 miles uphill till just before Skyline Rd. From Hwy 30, turn south onto Cornelius Pass Rd, turn right onto Skyline Rd, follow signs.
http://www.tricountyfarm.org/farms/plumper-pumpkin-patch-tree-farm-llc
The station reported that one of those people that was re-interviewed was Tyler Kessinger, a seventh-grader who says he saw Kyron walking through the science fair with friends, smiling the day he vanished and that he also saw Terri Horman’s white truck in the parking lot that day. Terri is the boy’s stepmother.
http://www.skyvalleychronicle.com/FEATURE-NEWS/COPS-RE-INTERVIEW-WITNESSES-IN-KYRON-HORMAN-CASE-416764
Catching up and off track. I thought the weird comment I posted was about the poster’s daughter not TH’s.
Also, just got the memo the farm was indeed on SI. Back to the drawing board.
“The little guy disappeared really, really close to our farm,” Roloff said. “In fact, we’ve heard he was down at the farm in the months leading up to his disappearance. I think when we heard that we were just, you know, made it feel close to us.”
http://www.katu.com/news/local/102022208.html?tab=video
just to set things straight this report where, M Roloff is speaking @1:34 on the video was done on October 30, 2010. He says he “heard” Kyron was there.
My guess now, after finding the much earlier Oregonian article that states Kyron & family had gone to the Roloff Farm, makes me think that *that* is where he *heard* about it. But I still don’t understand the “really, really close” to our farm disappearance statement. Oh well. Onward.
well, he spoke in those days to an audience
across America, so in context 5 miles
was close (not really really).
keeping in mind he was an entertainer.
erose says:
July 3, 2015 at 4:04 pm
Whoa, erose, I don’t remember ever seeing those comments either.
“Oh and you can bet Kaine has asked her the same thing. Why was my daughter somewhere else that day when normally she goes with you up to the school even when you are filming Kyron in some kind of production?”
^^^^This, didn’t someone mention here there was some sort of film production going on at Brooks Hill Church at some point? Was Kyron part of it?
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And this:
“As a teacher we are many times having to haul stuff from the parking lot to our classroom. We just get a rolling cart or something or get some assistance to help carry things. Nothing should be done for the convenience of the parents, it should be done for the protection of the children.”
^^^^^^Is this person just conicidentally randomly commenting here, or did this person, at this time KNOW that Kyron was asked to help someone who was a parent, or believed to be a parent?
Good find erose.
erose, I read that as someone else’s daughter too, but I think that the person posting was pretending to be Kaine having an imaginary conversation, “our” daughter being Kaine & Terri’s.
I read more comments of the LSTEX poster, it seems he/she is just referring to Terri’s filming of Kyron’s performances AT the school, when the baby was there too:
This is to address tammyjean’s statement about why wasn’t her daughter there with her at school that day. Why was she with a babysitter. Good question! There have been several films made of Kyron’s school activities and in several of the you can clearly see the daughter toddler running around the room. You see it in Kyron’s project that he read on bridges, you can see her again when he is singing with the choir of kids. So—–why not that day?? Interesting indeed!
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_parents_reveal_n.html
and yes, she’s talking about the baby not being with her that day, which Kaine has now says she was. So end of that story.
Hey, before I forget, I wanted to give a shout-out to NelMel, glad you are breathing easier in your neck of the woods, and you finally made me realize what language it is that Kaine speaks:
Vague-a-nees.
thanks to erose’ posting of “a teacher’s” comment, “haul stuff from the parking lot to our classroom,”
I am reminded the most likely SZ would be a Skyline teacher:
1) Mathews would trust & nod yes
2) the carryin request would be rational
3) mcso would trust the teacher & ignore this incident
4) the teacher would come back in & have an alibi.
So Blink could your witnesses verify this was not a Skyline male teacher?
@CD, I cringed when you said you lost your big Kyron file. Your posts are always so informative. I guess you have “fresh eyes,” like it or not.
DAD
http://www.katu.com/news/local/114534899.html
OT – Infant missing from crib in Happy Valley (northern California)
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-infant-ember-graham-reported-missing-from-crib/
Amys Sister says:
July 3, 2015 at 4:48 pm
I wonder if the false account was started by Mr. Roloff making that claim?
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That was my first thought too. Based on comments from one of the links Rose posted, I wouldn’t be surprised. http://spiritswander.blogspot.com/2011/07/good-bad-and-ugly-of-roloff-family-on.html?m=1
Rose’s finds add more interesting (creepy) background to KH.
Blink’s comments regarding the pumpkin farm confusion are also interesting. Why the apparently deliberate confusion regarding the pumpkin patches? But then again, why the confusion and muddle regarding every aspect of this case?
Also, why would two adult men visit a place that is clearly intended for families/children?
Rose says:
July 3, 2015 at 6:34 am
Rose says:
July 3, 2015 at 8:02 am
I can confirm this much right now- the only member of the family to attend the Roloff farm was Kaine. who brought along one male friend in the Summer of 2008. Kyron was never there so I have no idea where the comments “one of Kyron’s favorite places ” came from unless it was in reference to watching the tv show?
B
Yes, I am saying that is a false account, however it got started. The pic of Kyron in the pumpkin patch was on Sauvie. Kyron Horman was never at the Roloff farm and as all guests are required to sign in and execute media disclosures and paperwork- any reporter should have requested confirmation from the farm. Was never there. Kaine was there in Aug 2008 with an adult male personal friend.
B
It seems to me, as well, that we’ve covered the Roloff Farm but I just had to add a comment about the reporting, and the feuding pumpkin patches requiring MCSO overtime.
From my notes:
From Lynne Terry, June 19, 2010, Oregonian, after her interview with “friends and family” – it’s not clear who told her this:
“According to friends and family, the Hormans are a tight-knit, loving family that enjoys doing things together.
“They play board games, go bowling with friends and take trips. In 2009, they visited Walt Disney World in Orlando, Fla. Late last year [2009] they went to the Roloff Farm in Helvetia where the reality TV show “Little People, Big World” is filmed. And recently, they peered at the animals at the Oregon Zoo.”
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Since Kyron never went to the Roloff Farm, I wonder why that came up in the list of what the family does together. I doubt Lynne Terry went around checking pumpkin patches to see if they had gone to one. I wouldn’t have been surprised if Kyron had visited more than one pumpkin patch any year since it’s not unusual for kids to go with family, school classroom, Scouts, church group, daycare, the family of a friend, etc., or be attracted by some special event, for example. But I understand from Blink now, that only Kaine went to Roloff’s. Interesting to note that Matt Roloff had an early career in the software industry, and still is a consultant for a software company – I believe that was in one of Rose’s links.
Facebook post below said they had gone to several pumpkin patches over the years.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/missing-kyron-horman/ok-members-ready-for-another-challenge/155485771155522
October 21, 2010 at 2:51pm
As we get closer to one of Kyron’s favorite holidays I would like to share with you some of the things that Kyron loves about Halloween.
Kyron really enjoys the pumpkin patch. It is always an extremely and important outing that he just LOVES !! The family has gone to several of the local pumpkin patches over the years and it has become an annual event that he always looks forward to. And then of course the excitement of the pumpkin carving after the pumpkin patch visit!
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Another old post of mine from 11-11-11. There are other small pumpkin patches on Sauvie Island but below is a weird story about 2 of the bigger ones.
Strange thing on the news tonight – FOX 12 8 PM TV news. They had a reporter onsite at the pumpkin patch referred to in this online story:
http://www.kptv.com/story/16018622/deputies-release-sketch-of-sauvie-island-robber
another version of same story:
http://www.koinlocal6.com/news/local/story/Suspect-sought-in-pre-Halloween-knife-attack-at/Wkw05RcY20mWyiuc-2chTg.cspx Oct. 27th, 2011
On Fox TV, the man interviewed was not the victim but appeared to be related to the owners of the Bella Organic Farms and Pumpkin Patch. He told the reporter that the family had some suspicions about who was responsible and that they believed some people wanted to see them shut down and it had to be one of their competitors on Sauvie Island. The reporter did not ask more or it was edited out – it was not a live interview when I saw it.
So I googled and found this from the October 26, 2011, Willamette Week:
http://wweek.com/portland/article-18135-smashing_pumpkins.html
selected sentences:
“For decades, cars filled with parents and children in search of Halloween pumpkins have streamed out U.S. 30 to Sauvie Island. And one island farm has dominated the business: the Pumpkin Patch, run by the Egger family since 1971.”
“The feud involves the county sheriff, reports of theft and vandalism, obscenities shouted from cars, and one of the new business’s managers admitting he tore down signs to the Eggers’ patch.”
“The Eggers, who are still doing big business this year, say they were once close to Hashem—even going on a family vacation together—and are surprised by the way he’s competing with them.”
“We’re patrolling regularly to keep the peace,” says Capt. Jason Gates of the sheriff’s office, which is paying deputies overtime to deal with the situation. “They need to work it out.”
[I noted that it appears MCSO is still using a lot of overtime.]
Don’t know which farm this is but the video shows Dy and KH getting Kyron a pumpkin Oct 2010
And ginger printing
http://www.kgw.com/story/local/2015/07/04/11774810/
I watched the ID program Weathering the Storm this morning. 7:30
Amy Anderson’s story Even thro I keep this channel on a lot of the time I am not sure how much is fact and how much is entertainment
I noticed this program was labeled education
What I wonder is when you send your story to them are you paid and get to appear on the show both
If I believe Amy A I would say he could be a suspect still. In the Kyron case But
Something seemed off about her story also
Thank you to TNG And Our Amy’s sister for helping me see the program
Did Kaine & his male friend go to Roloff’s amusement park for
families in Helvetia during work hours or on the weekend?
w/e
B
Happy 4th Everyone!! Stay cool, stay safe, & God Bless America.
(I have like 7 posts hanging out, I hope I wasn’t talking too much on the 3rd.)