Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage

Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing,  Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.

Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW,  a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.

In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud-  the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper,  Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.

Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.

 

 

BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.

 

 

 

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15,021 Comments

  1. T. Ruth says:

    What’s interesting is I can get to Blink’s story about DAD, but can’t get any comments of 16k+ comments to come up. So, to me this means the stuff is out there but the comments are gone? Or is it possible that 16k+ is just too much and it needs to be split up in order to load? IDK, it loads really slow to begin with, so maybe that’s it.

    http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/comment-page-158/

    I still don’t understand why it’s not available via cache though.

    This person (http://www.cof.org/blogs/re-philanthropy/2013-11-25/gone-not-forgotten-searching-google%E2%80%99s-cache)

    said they found a way to get to a cache they couldn’t find, however then there’s this:

    “If your organization is interested in removing out-of-date information from Google’s cache, you can make use of a special link that Google offers to request removal of a cached page. If Google approves your request, they will remove the the page from their cache.”

    So, I think someone requested that the cache be removed. I wonder if one can query Google in that regard to ask if someone requested the cache be removed? They wouldn’t have to say who, just yes it was or no it wasn’t. Google owns the cache, so it’s up to them, but if someone got rid of a cache that included 16k+ comments, my guess is Google would have had to have a good reason to agree, and that would suggest LE to me. IDK

  2. Rose says:

    @TRuth & erose. I suggest you are onto something. the inaccessibility on Blink’s current server can be explained as an inadvertant IT happenstance. However, the additional disappearance from the cached pp system that only Google
    owns & controls would be most explainable by Google purging that thread’s cache selectively in response to a formal
    request, more likely by the DA or FBI than a little fish like MCSO. Google’s responsiveness would be explainable in that the business would not read or review the thread for content but would rely on a facile explanation like it interfered with if not obstructed the investigation of a cold blooded police murderer.

  3. erose says:

    @Blink – Shucks…

  4. erose says:

    @Rose, Yes, and the Hormans for example were involved in gaming. Not only can you communicate with another player, but if a person were playing and talking to their children, ‘k, get down from there’ ‘Kyron, you can’t have a snack’ etc. another player could learn a lot about your household, and these conversations get chummy.

    My son was in an XBox assigned group with a couple from AZ and one male from TN. The male from TN ended up going to AZ and moving in with the AZ couple who divorced because he had an affair with the wife. My son was 18 at the time and before the affair, contemplated going down there for a “reunion” with these STRANGERS/VIRTUAL FRIENDS. We discouraged and held our breaths as he was technically an adult and we couldn’t legit stop him. Thank God he was a broke college student. (We were prepared to “be in AZ” ht weekend if need be.)

    Rose says:
    November 16, 2015 at 1:25 pm
    snip>
    Looks like a playstation gamer could conduct affairs, or other business,
    and mcso/fbi had & have zero access or knowledge of those associations.

  5. MockingbirdSings says:

    Rose says:
    November 16, 2015 at 1:25 pm

    @Rose – I LOVE your church report. Thanks. I go to church, but I cannot think of more than 4 or 5 people that I would be comfortable knowing were carrying a weapon – and that’s iffy.
    When Trump said the situation in Paris would be different if more people were carrying guns at the concert, my first thoughts were
    1) the average person probably couldn’t “win” by shooting someone planning to blow themselves up
    2) my guess is there would have been a lot of innocent people caught in the crossfire and hysteria
    JMO

    There is a lot about the gun/hoodie/security type issues that is not simple no matter what the circumstances.

  6. MockingbirdSings says:

    T. Ruth says:
    November 16, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    Thanks for your persistence and research about Google, etc. I am learning, and I agree that certain things don’t seem logical.

  7. Alice says:

    Welcome Alice- I got your private message, thanks.
    B

  8. evie says:

    Right, so I poked around the cache question a bit. Am no expert but found some different things.
    Via the wayback machine, I accessed the last 2 pages of comments on the DAD thread. I’ve copied them into a document FWIW.
    There is a clean capture (cache) of those pages in Oct 2012. The capture in January of 2013 is corrupted with the cialis hack to the WordPress site, and several other of the captures remain corrupt until your IT finished sorting out the WP fix (this happened to one of my sites too). When a clean capture is made in August 2013, the comments are gone.
    There are 339 pages with comments on them. Each one would have to be checked, to see if there is a wayback machine capture.

    As for the google, maybe a setting got unclicked in the WordPress rescue that can simply be reconnected. The google cache displaying today is from Nov 15 2015, so it is a very recent cache, of the ‘broken’ comment page. The wayback has an actual series of old captures over many years for sites.

    In the ‘view source’ section of google’s cache of the page, I noted at the bottom that a plug in is undone. Perhaps you could ask your IT person to look at this?

    It may be that the comments file is too large to display w/out the Super Cache plug in or a substitute.
    Since there is a clean capture with comments before the WP break/rescue, and the next clean capture is post rescue and without comments, the answer might be there.
    I know a lot of us would be grateful if you asked your IT to look at it, lol! :)

  9. evie says:

    oh foo, the tech details need to be unformatted to post. Hope this works.
    This is the message from the page source.

  10. evie says:

    Blink, 3rd time is the charm?
    This is the message from the page source.
    WP Super Cache is installed but broken. The constant WPCACHEHOME must be set in the file wp-config.php and point at the WP Super Cache plugin directory

  11. evie says:

    @Rose says: November 16, 2015 at 1:25 pm

    I vote for the hoodie! Stir it up. :D

  12. erose says:

    Bumping y’all, and thus my “shucks.”

    erose says:
    November 14, 2015 at 7:11 pm
    @TRuth, I am finding less and less stories on Kyron, less links available, too. It’s as if popular opinion will write the story while we wait for the truth to come out. I always figured some LE agency wanted DAD’s thread or wanted it taken down.

    T. Ruth says:
    November 13, 2015 at 7:33 pm

    erose- I would have to be served to have anything removed from this site and I have not been. I believe the linkage issue is because of some wonky link that got into a comment and was pointing an ad ( from memory) and IT had to do some re-linkage, and I am also wondering if it is not also due to a server change at some point.
    B

  13. erose says:

    @TRuth, What about Bing?

  14. erose says:

    BING

    STEPS TO SUBMIT AN OUTDATED CACHE REMOVAL REQUEST

    You can submit an outdated cache removal request for a page that is live on the web (HTTP status code 200) and for which we still have old and outdated content in our cache by doing the following:

    https://www.bing.com/webmaster/help/bing-content-removal-tool-cb6c294d

    cached item in Yahoo – how long to go away

    I am not the owner of a website but I asked that they remove a page I had published. They did – it was showing up in Google and Yahoo’s cache even though the page was deleted. I was able to request that Google remove the cached file and they did within 24 hours but Yahoo will only allow web site owners to submit this same request. Does anyone know approximately how long it will take before this cached item will disappear from Yahoo’s search results? thanks

    https://www.webmasterworld.com/yahoo_search/4575930.htm

  15. Alice says:

    Great, you’re welcome.

  16. MockingbirdSings says:

    TASK FORCE RELEASES RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPROVE SCHOOL SAFETY AT NOV. 18 BRIEFING; GOV. BROWN IN ATTENDANCE (PHOTO)

    News Release from Clackamas Co. Sheriff’s Office
    Posted on FlashAlert: November 17th, 2015 8:28 AM
    Downloadable file: COVER: Oregon Task Force School Safety — Report to the Oregon State Legislature
    Salem, Ore. — On Wednesday, Nov. 18, Governor Kate Brown will join Clackamas County Sheriff Craig Roberts, Chair of the Oregon Task Force on School Safety, on behalf of the entire Task Force, for the release of the Oregon Task Force on School Safety report.

    Media is welcome to attend the briefing, scheduled for Nov. 18 at 11 a.m. on the steps of the Oregon State Capitol in Salem.

    “This report is the result of countless hours of work with our partners in school safety,” said Sheriff Craig Roberts. “With the recent shooting on the UCC campus in Roseburg and other incidents across our state and nation, it is clear we need to do everything we can to help make our schools safer.”

    Also scheduled to attend the press briefing is Jennifer Hoffman, mother of 14-year old Emilio Hoffman, who was killed in the Reynolds High School shooting on June 10, 2014. Hoffman has become an advocate for youth mental-health awareness and school safety in the wake of her son’s death.

    In 2014, the Oregon State Legislature passed House Bill 4087, establishing the Oregon Task Force on School Safety (OTFSS). The OTFSS was tasked with coming up with strategies to more effectively respond to school violence and active-shooter situations.

    The Task Force began meeting in August 2014 — studying data and hearing presentations from a variety of experts in school safety and related fields.

    The Task Force’s report to the Oregon Legislature looks at how school officials and law enforcement can work together to help prevent school shootings. Partnerships with school leadership, first responders, mental-health professionals and the community are critical to overall school safety. Recommendations and study areas in the report include a statewide school-floorplan database, standardized terminology, a tip line, a statewide threat-assessment system and additional online resources.

    The Task Force report will be available for download as a PDF on Wednesday at http://www.oregon.gov/osp/Pages/Task-Force-on-School-Safety.aspx

    Members of the Task Force will be available for interviews following the Nov. 18 press event.
    ———————————-

    Seems like Kyron should be represented at this press event in some way relating to school safety. Where is the reporter with the guts to ask the question?

  17. thatkewlgirl says:

    OT – At least this headline states that kids CAN disappear in the midst of many without people seeing it… A little girl ‘got lost in a crowd’ at her brother’s football game in Kentucky, and was located nearby within a half hour dead.

    http://news.yahoo.com/7-year-old-murder-victim-got-lost-in-a-crowd-155326741.html

    Does this quote sound familiar? (And how can they know this?) Children have gone missing and someone is out there, likely to continue to harm children!

    “No arrests have been made, but the case “is being treated as an isolated incident and we do not feel that there is an ongoing threat,” the Allen County sheriff’s office said”

  18. T. Ruth says:

    @rose/evie/erose

    Ya lost me in the “wayback” cache stuff, but yes, that’s what’s weird to me is that google can’t even display the cache. I hope that your discoveries can help get the original Word Press threads fixed. I remember being re-directed to the cialis ads.

    I knew there were people on here a lot smarter than me. I barely geek speak, thanks for looking into it.

    @rose what page # were you able to load comments from? Does that page show the WP Super-cache broken info?

  19. T. Ruth says:

    IDK if that’s it because this page when inspected is showing the same broken WP cache info and we can see our current comments. ?

  20. Rose says:

    @TRuth. I have no enlightenment; must’ve been erose. I read evie with amazement & believe she has nailed it.
    When Blink secures an IT pro in her newish neighborhood, I trust she’ll
    pass on evie’s posts yesterday. Isn’t Rob Hampton the go to IT guru for Masorti and others in Centre County. Perhaps he works across the State….

  21. T. Ruth says:

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/baa28e9031c44093b40f2a1f2412f25d/opaque-military-justice-system-shields-child-sex-abuse

    (snip)

    “At a General Court-Martial at Okinawa, Japan, Chief Warrant Officer 4 D. E. DeSmit was convicted by a military judge alone of conspiracy to commit sexual assault and rape of children, aggravated sexual abuse of a child, sexual abuse of a child, and possession of child pornography. The military judge sentenced the accused to 144 years of confinement, a reprimand, and dismissal,” a summary of the court-martial released by the Marine Corps reads.

    And that’s all the service would have said publicly, had the AP not pressed for more information, including NCIS’s 198-page investigation of the allegations against DeSmit.

    The most significant detail missing from the Marine Corps’ brief public summary was the pretrial agreement. DeSmit had struck a deal with the military, according to court records. He pleaded guilty to 18 counts, including conspiracy to commit rape of a child. His prison sentence was limited to 20 years, not 144 as the Marine Corps had said publicly.

    And he will do even less time if he is eventually paroled. In the military justice system, DeSmit is eligible to be considered for release from prison after serving one-third of his term.

    DeSmit is one of dozens of sex offenders who have benefited from pretrial deals, according to the AP’s analysis of the summarized results of courts-martial released by the military services. Since the beginning of July alone, 31 soldiers, sailors and Marines were convicted of sex crimes against children. Twenty of those cases had pretrial agreements.

    (This is the end of the article^^, I wish we had some reporters willing to dig like these guys have been. )

  22. T. Ruth says:

    http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/06/kyron-horman-case-the-path-from-suspect-to-defendant-is-forged/

    And on this thread, there’s 777 comments, yet the ability to go to “Newer Comments” has been deleted. I was able to get to the next comments by adding “comment-page-02/” (sans quotes) in the header, and magically I get to page two AND “Newer Comments” shows up and will let me go forward, but I wonder why it’s missing from page 01? I tried the same thing on DAD’s thread but nothing happens.

    http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/comments-page-02/
    and got nothing.
    This is what shows up:

    “Sorry, no posts matched your criteria.”

    Oh, and the WP Cache is broken thingy shows up as broken on ALL of Blink’s pages, so I don’t think that’s the issue.

    Oh well.

  23. Erode says:

    I’m not enlightened either. I was posing the theory that bing also has a cache, so if google and bing both have broken links then there might be a problem that is not just with google.

  24. MockingbirdSings says:

    In case you’d like to read it –
    School Safety task force report 11-18-15
    (snipped)
    The task force’s recommendations include developing a statewide database of every school’s floor plan, standardizing the terminology used in responding to and assessing threats, and creating a threat assessment system and establishing a statewide tip line.

    Clackamas County Sheriff Craig Roberts, who chaired the task force, noted that early reporting is key.

    Read more: http://www.kptv.com/story/30554078/school-safety-task-force-delivers-recommendations#ixzz3rusGTDZf

    http://www.oregon.gov/osp/docs/TaskForceSchoolSafety/Meetings/OTFSSGovernorsReport-LAYOUT-Final%2011-17-2015.pdf

    A statewide tip line that includes voice, text and web-based tips will allow concerned persons to anonymously share information about potential threats. The information will be evaluated and shared with school officials and law enforcement when threats to student safety are reported.

    The tip line would handle all types of reports — including bullying, violence, threats of violence, suicide, and other concerns.

  25. T. Ruth says:

    Clackamas County Sheriff Craig Roberts, who chaired the task force, noted that early reporting is key.

    “What we’ve learned from research is that with many of acts across the country, what happens is people know about the crime ahead of time, and don’t report it.”

    In fact, the task force found that in 81 percent of recent school shootings, someone knew about the threat, and in 93 percent of those cases, that person was a peer.

    The statewide tip line would allow students, friends and family members to report threats. Those reports would first be assessed by the school, and then by a team of community members made up of educators, mental health professionals and police.

    Read more: http://www.kptv.com/story/30554078/school-safety-task-force-delivers-recommendations#ixzz3rxskmrPU

    Thanks for the link MbS, I think the tip line is a great idea. I just wonder though, since it’s anonymous, how they (the receiving end) will determine what’s a hoax and what isn’t? I can just see some kid calling in and trying to get some other kid in trouble for something that doesn’t exist, just like the idiots that call in fake bomb threats, etc.

  26. T. Ruth says:

    The sheriff’s department is treating the homicide as an isolated incident, but will have extra deputies patrolling school perimeters until an arrest is made, Cooke said.

    Scottsville Police Chief Jeff Pearson, who also responded to the scene Saturday night, said Gabbi’s death “rocked” the community.

    http://www.bgdailynews.com/news/family-friends-recall-happy-loving-child/article_a44e2ea0-8cde-11e5-8a96-3f49a10cf4d1.html

    So horribly sad. I’m with you kewl, how in the heck do they know this was an isolated incident? And yes this sounds very familiar, *isolated, but we’re patrolling the school.* Uh, why?

  27. Rose says:

    @mbs. The Task Force was set up to recommend legislation
    in view of school shootings, but apart from a tip line to State police, the Legislature is
    hamstrung imo because k-12 is the province of local school boards. So imo this is mostly
    political posturing. All those school floor plans & doors in a Statewide digital database will be public
    information and could serve as an asset to evildoers. This public safety portfolio is Heidi’s
    job as advisor to Kitz/Brown, but the Task Force is Legislature. Imo she’s been working with them
    anyway.

  28. AINRose says:

    @Blink. always proud of yr leadership and education of us all. looks like your passionate advocacy for Kyron spilled over today into the hater crater. Imo you are engaging the equivalent of insane jihadists “for Kyron” not to mention the uneducated, illiterate, and foul-mouthed. I differ with you in that imo Greene is not judgment proof . Her FB sites have been the primary–and only source but for Missing Kyron FB–as the fundraising and advertising arm of the Davidson sisters’ solicitations for gofundme. I suspect there are co-conspirator grounds. You have noticed she’s not been directing readers to donate at gofundme lately? Not only a jihadist for Kyron, WS FB jihadist for Kyron also gets a charge out of sexual innuendo — ie she will “screw” Terri, or out of Terri’s personal life – ie “spill the beans” which amounts to her hair is red and her car is green. No reasonable juror coukd believe the Davidson sisters maintain a close relationship with Soldier extending to their approving her posts but for her intensive marketing of their donation site and engaging in other fundraising ventures.

    Admittedly- a weak moment. But to see a very poorly photoshopped image of a beaming and prideful Kyron to a window in his home is grotesque. If nothing else protects his legacy- in my view he earned that pride and glee and NOBODY can pervert that.

    What is hilarious to me- is the fact that chief cauldron cook and bottle washer is BLATANTLY LYING in response- Who is posting questions, demanding a response from me ( as if) when blocking me from the page. What a fat scam- worse than a hater crater- it is like 3 people being intentionally mislead- AGAIN.

    Because I know they read here: The Q &A

    Kyron Horman’s World Soldiers Shannon why do you have an article on your blog stating that your sources told you that DeDe left the farm on June 4th if you believe DeDe is innocent. Also, why did you claim that Ms. Matthews let Kyron leave with an unknown man, then said it over and over again as if it was a fact, only to come back later and say there was a boy who looked exactly like Kyron?

    Why is your sources giving you contradicting information?

    Links? Don’t you think intelligent people wish to view your references for themselves via a link for context and reference? My coverage evolved as facts are learned, witnesses interviewed and additional information provided once it is verified. As an example, once Sheriff Staton publicly stated that Kyron was seen much later in the morning (following Terri’s departure) it was clear to reasonable people Terri could NOT have removed Kyron and that was BEFORE I interviewed witnesses that last saw Kyron walk out with SZ ( an unidentified male). It is a fact , verifiable, that after Matthews nod Kyron walked out the door with Him. Dont take my word for it- ask Desiree if she was told this as well- and why are you so resistant to be honest about this? If you are so fixated on finding Kyron wouldnt it behoove those efforts to focus on finding SZ?? Why did you berate Kaine for finally publically acknowledging that fact?

    Why did you tell your readers early on that you thought Dede was seen in a white truck, but later said that Dede was innocent. You can’t have it both ways. Again, quote please. DeDe is not only innocent, but why aren’t you telling people that not only was Desiree told that repeatedly since (DDS) passed a polygraph and testified before the second grand jury which caused her attorney to recommend she drop her suit (to avoid a countersuit) but after her allegations at the 5 year mark her own lawyer told her she is subject to a defamation suit he will not be able to defend.

    Why have many locals on your page have told you that the early witness accounts of seeing Kyron were wrong, but you ignored them.

    Again- link, quote? This never happened. Do your research. Not only are the witness accounts accurate- I have seen correspondence from 3 different LE agencies confirming the investigative efforts to identify SZ. Their are witness depositions in the disollution case that also confirm this- as well as, you guessed it, a confirmed Dr. appt for Kyron on June 11.

    A local even posted on your page (Blink’s) that Terri was only at the gym for 15 minutes, Blink (Shannon Stoy) completely ignored all of the locals who posted information that didn’t agree with Blink’s “Terri is an innocent victim” theory. Why would an innocent victim give up her daughter when she had one of the best criminal defense attorneys in Oregon. Yeah, because she is not innocent and her attorney knew the only way to keep her out of prsion was for her to remain silent and give up her daughter.

    Please explain, Blink, Shannon, Terri and Dede supporter!!

    Do you not see how ignorant that comment is? She signed in and out, Kiara was in the childcare and several witnesses from the gym confirmed her timeline.

    I have never seen a scintilla of evidence that Terri is responsible for Kyrons disappearance so I dont know if she is an innocent victim but I do know that Kyron definitely is. I have never met her nor spoken to her so give that a rest. I am a very true supporter of DeDe and what she was put through was flat out negligence and derelict. I have seen significant evidence that points to SZ being responsible for Kyrons disappearance.
    BTW- how has that petition to Underhill worked out?

  29. Rose says:

    ps no intent to insult our Muslim brethren by saying the Staceys are
    attempting to lead a “jihad for Kyron” right down to statements
    to do bodily harm to TMH & DDS and to incite strangers thru social media
    to do the same. I use it in the context of
    dictionary def 2: “a crusade for a principle or belief”. I situate it
    her crusade in the modern context of those who promise great bodily harm
    to individuals based on an irrational belief system which has no factual support,
    indeed is contrary to fact.

  30. Rose says:

    Only speculation, but if Dsiree’s instructions to search teams have directed participants to be on the alert for objects tied to Terri or DDS, or possessions of Kyron that Terri might have been discarding, then those search instructions where TMH or DDS were named would be indicia, like the antics in Roseburg & Eugene, that gofundme donations were sought and spent as part of a conspiracy to stalk TMH & DDS across State lines. Of course the Soldier’s current focus on stalking in California (those posts the Davidsons read and say they approve of) ties right in.

  31. Rose says:

    Well wow, Soldier, & by extention likely subsoldiers, said on a post today –the one about about answering a question — in followup comments that DDS was seen eating lobster on a specific recent day, indicating ongoing stalking of DDS around klamath falls.

    Here’s my question for Blink. Soldier is making much of a green paint color now on the Mustang.
    I fail to see how an illiterate WA resident who does not know where TMH is got this paint job info – her “beans” – other than from her collaborator, Desiree. So the question speculatively is how Desiree got that car color change info. Who else woukd have a motive to get it and broadcast it on Soldier’s site? Coukd it be gotten By vin number?
    She wouldn’t have the vin no (altho to think of it that info is tied to DMV registratiobs . Hiw about license plate? One assumes because Dsiree went to her home, she knows the red squirrel plate replacement script. Does the OR DMV maintain info on car color when licenseplates are renewed? Could Tony have run DMV car info for Desiree?

    So the funny thing is the color is a component of the Registration, which would require the updated info so… once again misinformation is being spread. I don’t believe Tony would be running such information because it is trackable. For my practice ( we use some same DBs as LE) all inquiries are tracked and discoverable.
    B

  32. Rose says:

    an enlightening article in how gofundindividuals works.
    http://www.texasmonthly.com/the-daily-post/a-taylor-woman-who-raised-4500-on-gofundme-for-a-family-she-didnt-know-was-arrested-for-fraud/

    There seems every incentive for the gofundme account holder to regularly sweep out donations in the entirety to a bank account. This prevents any complaint or investigation request to gofundme to be acted on. The only safeguard is gofundme does not disburse monies until 7 days after a withdrawal request.
    Someone will have to refresh my recollection, but my memory is Ramirez maintains a bank account for the benefit of Desiree’s “finding Kyron” activities from which airfares, motels, supplies & such like for searches would be paid. Therefore, Blink, woukdn’t this be an imputed trust account held to benefit either Desiree or Kyron under OR law, whether titled that way or not? See: http://www.doj.state.or.us/charigroup/pages/howtobe.aspx

  33. Rose says:

    Well, then, perhaps Tony could ask a fellow “detective” on the Mult Cty investigation to see if the vin has been reregistered in CA and changes to the vehicle such as color. Car registration could be one way stalkers track a person’s whereabouts.

    Why would he do that?
    B

  34. Rose says:

    At his wife’s request, who has tracked Terri’s whereabouts via the distinctive car using surrogates previously.
    Peace at home imo. I believe Soldier that the color is green because the Davidsons said they read and approve her posts. Therefore the Davidsons believe or kniw the car is green. Since Terri’s whereabouts are unknown and she has not been spitted with ber car. The only other source for that info is a car registration in OR or CA. And someone Soldier & Davidsons believe to be reliable obtained the info in some manner.

    I get all that, but given information I am aware of from counsel- at least as of 6/2015 there is no way Tony Young is touching any indelible db’s without rebuke at a minimum. I don’t agree TMH whereabouts are unknown. I am of the opinion they are restricted via court order. I may be wrong, but after the last stalk and balk TMH invoked certain rights afforded to her.

  35. Rose says:

    I did not know what pic you commented on but have now seen it.
    That is not Sheltered Nook house imo. Perhaps it is Moulton’s as the conext is accusatory.
    One comment railing against TH & DS is by a Judy Davidson H. A relative?
    Imo the offensive nature to me is not the misuse of Terri’s sci fair pic snap, but that altogether the
    photoshopped pic is a perversion of Kyron as a person.
    —-
    Soldier’s romanticized pictures & prose remind me of her frequent poster B Irish, now sending many red hearts
    via social media to not only kyron but 3 young boys of the same age. Male or female, their romanticized child crushes are whatever ick factor they are.

    Agreed.
    B

  36. cd says:

    Rose says:
    November 19, 2015 at 5:45 pm

    You have to wonder about SG/DY. SG runs the hater pages for Kyrons maternal family. It is doubtful that either DDS of Terri read her FB since SG regurgitates the same pictures, news articles and taunts everyday nothing new here so why would Terri or DDS bother.

    Why does a stranger to the family(there is a mom, brothers, aunts uncles cousins, grandparents) have to run multiple support pages for Kyron. Is DY and her family just to busy living their lives to be bothered with the daily running of the taunt Terri pages. I don’t think that this fact is completely lost on SG’s posters. A lot of the posters actually think that SG is Kyrons mother.

    IMO either SG should have a capital “L” tattooed on her forehead or she is just a nut case who needs someone anyone to hate which I think may be a new form of internet addiction(like gambling etc..).

    IMO
    As far as the mustang being painted green or TH being seen in Northern Cal that is probably just BS made up by SG because she can’t figure out where TH is or maybe some mis-information from one of her nut-case posters. Since the mustang could possibly be used as a means to track/spot her TH probably got rid of it long ago.

  37. NelMel says:

    Noting the comments — and the slight snark in them — from the Davidson/Ramirez side of Kryon’s family concerning Kaine not allowed cadaver dogs on his property:

    Okay, what’s up with that?

    The crazies have spent five years or so insisting that TMH “is hiding something” because she won’t (name task). She won’t talk to LE again. She won’t talk to media. She won’t talk to the haters themselves. Etc., Etc. To them, this all means that she is lying.

    Annnnnddd….now I don’t hear them saying that about KH. Their comments about him are much more subtle. No gushing love for the guy, but the HCs are not destroying KH’s life with their actions and words. Yet, he is technically doing the very same thing that they rip TMH apart for doing, that being, not doing something that THEY insist should be done.

    Aside from all of that, way back in 2010 I seem to recall a SAR dog guy who likes himself an awful lot — but who probably does have the skill and dog talent — mention on his webpage that one of his dogs picked up a scent near the Horman property, but he was not allowed on the property. That was, I believe, a reflection of him butting into LE work in progress, as well as LE not liking him very much.

    If a person is going to “do everything possible” to find a missing child, what is “everything possible?”

    I think flyers and bracelets at auto shows is now ridiculous, and I think that a woman who has to run from a pack of soulless insane train wreck women with personality disorders to start her life over in another state is a sad confirmation that our criminal justice system is completely broken. This case has tried and convicted TMH without discovery, without a jury, and without the truth, and lots of people are okay with that.

    Are they now, by whining about Kaine not allowing cadaver dogs, turning on KH to do the same thing to him?

    Murder Biz.
    B

  38. Rose says:

    The General and her troops are stirred up, stinging like hornets on WS FB.
    Idk where Soldier got Kelly Ramirez’s statement attacking Kaine for never allowing
    cadaver dogs on his property, but now the charge of the Kyron jihadi brigade is
    against Kaine, alluding strongly he is protecting Terri by knowingly sheltering Kyron’s disposed-of body on
    his property. This whole Soldier system and its Generals’ belief systems
    are lunatic, imo & that’s all I can say.

  39. cd says:

    This says it is by Kelly
    -snip
    I just want to clarify there was a search done Kaine’s property the first couple of days after Kyron went missing. These were search and rescue dogs with a scent article looking for a LIVE child. Cadaver dogs have never set foot on his property. Not once! While Desiree, Me and my family pray everyday this is not our outcome we need answers. Kyron deserves for us to have these answers. He deserves to be found. Why would a father deny any mother the piece of mind knowing he is not there? Why can’t he do that for her for Kyron? Not only has he denied us the opportunity to search his property but he is denying law enforcement the access to do so as well. Hmmmm

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=907642962658959

    -snip
    Cadaver dogs have never set foot on his property. Not once! While Desiree, Me and my family pray everyday this is not our outcome we need answers.

    Sounds like The Davidsons/SG are starting to point the finger of guilt in Kyron’s disappearance at Kaine. This is weird I thought they knew for sure Terri did it. Are we going to see vigils in front of Kaines house, picketing at the gym where Kyrons fence is or at Intel. The Hmmmm at the end of her post is interesting

  40. T. Ruth says:

    Interestingly this was posted over on Missing Kyron Horman page.

    https://www.facebook.com/missingkyronhorman/posts/1054002254631371:0

    I find it interesting because they need to heed their own words. If they are to be such sticklers for verbiage, then explain what they were thinking when Kaine, Desiree & Tony released a statement in 2010 the Friday before Father’s day, that this coming Sunday, for the first time, Kyron wouldn’t be home for Father’s day. I’d like to know how in the heck they knew that? I’d like to know who actually wrote the statement, which one of the three? And how on earth did the other two not catch that indeed they were writing Kyron off before his time. He could have been found on Friday night, Saturday or even on Father’s day itself.

    Freudian slips happen, just sayin’. But how on earth can all three of them have read and published that statement and not see what they were saying? Still bugs me to this day, and I’m sure it must have bugged the FBI as well, for those who don’t recall:

    “It has been two weeks since our son Kyron disappeared,” said the statement. “For the last 14 days we have not been able to talk to him see him playing around the house or tuck him in bed. Any parents would understand the grief that this causes our family.”

    “Father’s day is Sunday. For the first time in seven years we won’t have Kyron around to talk to. It hurts us deeply and our hearts are broken,” it said.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-oregon-boys-uncle-arrested-unrelated-charge/story?id=10955255

    June 18, 2010 was the Friday it was released and read at the Friday presser, so it was written most likely even earlier in the week. So here’s another question, remember how Kaine, Desiree & Tony told the press that all press conferences would be on a Friday from now on. I always wondered why that was? Was it because one of them had to go to work and couldn’t be there except on Fridays? If I’m not mistaken DY was off work, and I’m thinking KH was as well. Was TY? Just more curious stuff.

  41. erose says:

    So how does LE define isolated? (I did not know they were referencing the location of the victim or the fact that it was godforsaken, FTLOG.)

    i·so·lat·ed
    ˈīsəˌlādəd/
    adjective

    far away from other places, buildings, or people; remote.
    “isolated farms and villages”

    synonyms: remote, out of the way, outlying, off the beaten track/path, secluded, lonely, godforsaken, far-flung, inaccessible, cutoff, incommunicado, in the backwoods, in the back of beyond, in the back concessions, in the boonies/boondocks, in the middle of nowhere, in the sticks, in the tall timbers, hinterland “isolated communities”

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/man-accused-in-death-of-kentucky-girl-who-vanished-during-football-game/ar-BBnglZN

  42. Rose says:

    @cd. “Why does a stranger to the family(there is a mom, brothers, aunts uncles cousins, grandparents) have to run multiple support pages for Kyron”
    http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments
    Since the primary purpose of those Greene-run FB support pages seems to be to push gofundme donations, inkind donations and volunteers to car washes & other enterprises like stalking at moulton’s home, searches, and court stalking of terri, it seems likely to me Desiree realized it was essential those social media functions be farmed out from her family for a “degree of separation” for their protection. The pictures of kyron are merely part of the marketing enterprises in my opinion.

  43. Rose says:

    See flash card 10 erose
    (or go down 10 on this list)
    https://quizlet.com/36132765/police-administration-chapter-2-flash-cards/

    I was looking up the definition of isolated
    as used in police subculture vernacular
    & training.

    Based on that quizlet, we may presume by callng bith significant
    crimes isolated, both mcso and that kentucky pd do not
    practice problem-oriented policing. Imo that’s a function of
    administration, plus hiree’s education & raw material,
    plus lack of training once in.
    Kyron certainly hasn’t gotten a problem-oriented policing approach.

  44. Quizzical says:

    I thought this might be of interest. Buried down in the comments to the post referenced by T.Ruth, a former Skyline student contributes a remembrance of Kyron. The student is at Lincoln now.

    T. Ruth says:
    November 21, 2015 at 4:45 pm

    Interestingly this was posted over on Missing Kyron Horman page.

    https://www.facebook.com/missingkyronhorman/posts/1054002254631371

    ~snip

    —————————————–

    (name redacted) “Kyron is such a sweet kid. I remember being in Ms.Koning’s class right next to him. We are about three years apart in age. Every time I walked by his class, he was either talking or raising his hand. Such a smart kid. His eloquence always amazed me. I can’t wait to be amazed by his eloquence again when we find him. I’m sure he’s out there right now, speaking his mind”

    October 22 at 7:43pm

    ——————————————–

    In 2009-2010 Ms. Koning was a 4/5 teacher in room 211 next to Porter’s room 213. Koning was in room 211 during the 2003-2004 school year and left Skyline after the 2009-2010 school year.

    School layout:

    http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/quizzi1/Skyline%20School/SkylineClassroomsExit_zps003815e9.jpg

    A current middle school student using the word eloquence to describe a 7 year old twice in a sentence. Interesting Quizzi.
    B

  45. Malty says:

    Things are heating up. People telling North Cal There is a kidnaper on the loose
    Radio blog telling Blink politely to shut up
    LOL
    A green Mustang. New hair do. Multiple names maybe she is doing farm work

    You know this Solider acts like a woman in love With out her victim to post about she is lost Where is her
    Purpose in life. . Oh dear. Oh dear. What to do. Make up some thing Hope it flys Keep the hate going
    What ever it takes

    Blame that Blink. Yes good idea Tell everyone Blink caused this pain
    LOL
    I hope the Davidsons Approval of all this is firm. If they ever ditch her. She will be nutty

    Seriously I am so tired of these people asking over and over. Why Terri hasn’t been arrested.
    This mess is for Kyron Unbelievable

    Amazing how some spend all their time blaming because they do not want to own any facts. What she is doing is doing to TH and DDS is actionable.

    My fave latest bit of misinformation- that TH is not being named a suspect because then “they” will have to move forward with discovery and court. What a load of malarky- there is no such thing as discovery for a LEA declaring a suspect- one would have to be charged with a crime ( sigh, duh). And for the record, LE told TH and KAINE she was a suspect in both the mfh and Kyrons disappearance.

    Im going to be lucky if I don’t face charges in Kyrons case, LOL? For what- fact based investigative journalism, which, btw, was confirmed in open court and in depositions.

    Some independent verifications went through my media lawyer like LE correspondence or other source intel we had a concern might be proprietary and/or case sensitive but I didnt have to. I guess the recent Kaine smear is tied to his admission that there is in fact a SZ, always has been, known to all parties. If this is not true, for once and for all, why wouldnt Desiree come right out and say she was never told that?

    Why hasnt one of them at the cauldron cattillion offered up a single fact in dispute of any I have put forth?
    B

  46. Rose says:

    not only that, this eloquent middle school student made her observations of his eloquence merely by passing in the hall outside his classroom door and peering in, implying his door was always open, she could hear kyron speak, and he was in her sightline. Interesting.

  47. Rose says:

    with the O planning to let more staff go, I wonder why
    Bernstein has varied her journalistic output on kyron
    which was to do gratuitous blurbs from time to time
    to generate a ton of digital comments?

    prolly looking for a job and did not want that on portfolio?
    B

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