Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage
Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing, Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.
Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW, a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.
In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud- the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper, Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.
Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.
BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.
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We have suffered some terrible weather and floods here Not me yet I still have lights and no flooding I am very antsy to get outside and go somewhere. Today was 10 days in the house
The wind and rain was brutal. Now floods
Al O/T but the fun of this is long gone
@Erose. Your humor helps I am losing mine Stuck inside Thanks
I think it is fair to blame the reporters for doing their share of messing up this case
iirc Complimenter’s writing style was nothing like a middle schooler.
rather, it was like a fantacizing adult such as some
who post on FBs.
An example of Bernstein’s reporting & self-interested comment management.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/12/attorney_calls_portland_police.html#comments
I saw this story 1 hour after it went up–about 8:15 pm. One well-written comment took her to task
for telling an entertaining story but failing to provide contextual facts, explicitly saying she did not mention
whether the trial was civil, which he presumed it was, or criminal. 30 min later she both updated her story and deleted that comment.
I believe I see that comment and her response to the poster Rose. I know that your point is in support of poor media reporting and in general I agree- In the Horman matter ABSOLUTELY, and worse- I fervently believe it was skewed to capitalize on click-throughs and google juice. I do recall some more balanced reporting in the beginning and I did get several calls to work as a stringer on this case. Not what I do, or did.
That said, (since you sucked me in with that piece) on this one ( click back through the link for the committee appeal) I think Bernsteins coverage was balanced.
ON the issue of Ms. Haynes violation of her civil rights:
1. You cannot have police policing themselves for the billionth time. Does. Not. Work.
2. Personally I am floored that in this clear and egregious lack of training and knowledge of statute on behalf of Baldwin and Winkle nobody in the entire PPD thought of Terry v Ohio. Hello first year JDs out there? In my view they did have what is called “reasonable suspicion” based on the similar attire and backpack to approach Ms. Haynes (by the way I call that LE saran wrap). The burden to escalate reasonable suspicion to probable cause rests on the officers and had they INFORMED HER they were investigating a criminal incident with an individual whose attire closely matched hers and requested she present ID could have justified a subsequent PEACEFUL search of her backpack for contents similar to those believed to be stolen. This is/was a Terry stop, but based on an actual criminal incident. So far all is still reasonable.
3. Once suspicion is established and articulated to the subject- you better believe in this matter LE had the right to request to review the contents of her backpack and here’s the rub- by her actions of grabbing it and attempting to leave the scene would allow LE to review her ID and write an incident report accordingly. Not only is none of that mentioned by IA or it’s officers but they forcibly arrest this woman and put her into custody and since they still have not bothered to tell her WHY – even if she had been the mail thief with a bag full of goodies good luck getting it into evidence potentially.
4. Bottom line- a person being detained be a LEO has the right to know what reasonable suspicion allows them to invoke it in the first place and in this case had they told her it may have made the difference, searched the backpack, not involved, the end.
5. That said, this is immunity-based defense to PPD for everything leading up to placing this woman into custody had they informed her and let her make her choices accordingly.
6. Adding insult to injury- as only LEO’s who eff up in the line of duty “will” and instead of the ranks seizing a training opportunity we partially investigate a complaint of the incident, load the file with prior police incident data to include the son she was on the phone with they never interviewed when she appeals to committee review and have the entire blast BOTH IA investigations- sending her to civil court.
7. Did they violate her rights? As far as I can tell and their stories seem to support this- by withholding the reason (suspicion) they had grounds to detain her, which would have allowed her informed consent- or not, they did. Was it a procedural error in the line of duty that should have been found “as such” and a formal apology issues to Ms. Haynes, yes. 3 Reviews and one civil court case later we see yet again.. hubris and refusal to be accountable as a civil servant. Note the fat disparity in the community panel and LE.
Bringing this back to the Horman matter- a case where I deeply feel the civil rights were violated of more than a few folks, but specifically TH, If there was ever a time TH should be testing which way the wind is blowing it is now.
B
@Blink. great analysis, summation.
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In the larger picture, maybe not to Terri’s own interests,
it would be nice if Federal Court were used (her case
as one of several) and pattern & practice wrt
Mult Cty LE organs (plural) be shown. Unfortunately,
that DOJ investigation of systemic pattern & practice is now on Chicago,
and any Atty Gen probably has only one Big Case against pervasive LE
practices at a time–and Portland PPB just did mental health.
And, I feel the OR DOJ office is an inbred mess anyway with multiple married
attorneys all supporting each other from outsiders’ scrutiny.
Porters (BALTO COP) case nearly ended in a mistrial because prosecutors withheld Grays nearly identical injury approx 2 mos. prior. Recently re-reading Rees pointing finger at MCSO for the stop start status of the 2nd and presumably now dismissed GJ as well as other developments I have covered and some I have not- I believe the MCSO DA will be forced into a position to certify MCSO acted out of scope and therefore not in possession of sovereign status.
After Giusto, Brett, the nice former Sheriff that could not pass certification, the magic wand deputization of untrained and unqualified officers posing as detectives, $3Million, an abandoned FAPA, bar complaints, Frink voluntary inactive status, a baby kept from her Mother based on false allegations and a STILL MISSING CHILD 5 years later. Its a partial list, but if now is not the time to make this actionable it never will, imo.
B
all I can do is put myself in Haynes’ shoes waiting for a bus to volunteer job & suddenly accosted by 2 white males (uniform would make it more, not less, scarey, who DO not explain themselves or conduct a civil conversation. I’d be terrified. There was not only no reason not to inform her of the reason for the stop, she was the wrong sex, race, height. Since when does a jacket & bag color (black being popular), & wearing a cap on a cold day, rise to probable cause when absolutely no physical descriptors fit but are very different? Imo these 2 shoukd be fired despite the Union.
I am going to respectfully disagree on her attire and physical descriptor being out of the reasonable range. This report was via dispatch from a witness- 2 huge margins for partial or erroneous information so they focused on attire ( how do we know the vantage point of witness- whether they answered not sure to female/male?) It is close enough for me to believe they were justified in approaching her. It was described as cream colored beanie, dark coat, black backpack, between 5’4 and 5’6- now, again, beyond me who their counsel is, but if I were defending them I would have motioned to have Ms. Hayes wear her exact outfit, stand exactly where she was, exact weather conditions, exact position of patrol car on approach and presented those images from multiple profiles ( her hood was up, depending on the coat style thats going to give you a couple inches right there- rain boots?
Winkle was a rookie, this is on the veteran. What continues to stymie me is that police self-policing and never admitting error, OR what training updates are incorporated to address the issue systemically is exactly why a woman like this WAS TERRIFIED in the first place. Complete distrust and fear- I do not blame her.
B
to make it actionable, Houze has to get off his dime & find a contingent fee attorney with VERY BIG firm pockets to fund up front for years plus appeals wrt federal Constitutional violations with much experience in this Federal Court (& a crapshoot since Ancer Haggerty retired). And that attorney will put up with stalking & threats to his life for years for any civil rights suit on Terri’s behalf. The only local capable was Eldon R (and someone knew that & craftily disabled him by foisting DY on him). Otherwise, out of State the flamboyant Gerry Spence ifbhe’s still walking & talking. Ideally thus is a DOJ case to bring mcso into line, but the good old boys got rid of the only outsider, Amanda.
where did Reese point a finger at mcso for stop-start status of GJ2?
I posted the excerpt the other day- I can’t access it at the moment- anyone?
B
That is a reporter problem On her Face Book . Linkin and other sites the woman calls herself Jaymie Dockerty Finster
But when I google I find Jamie Finster and Jaymie Finster or Jaymie Dockerty Finster
What her name actually is legally who knows
As long as we find the info I guess all three can be her name
quick google. I see a lot of federal civil rights attorneys in Portland
take on the police for civil rights causes of action. Seem to go for quick low payout settlements.
plaintiffs usually black. Terri is not the typical plaintiff, & based on publicity is already not sympathetic figure to jurors.
Plus crazios will stalk & threaten not just her attorney but sitting jurors. Case made for say Clinton & Edelman (wrt kuara’s civil rights injuries) if they didn’t have Other Lives.
O/T Face Book founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg now has joined in with his own
Face Book page I like it And he has a great dog named Beast
You know if she resides in CA, she’d be best off with a promary
CA attorney – same Fed appellate Court where it would ultimately
head if not settled. Less proximity of law office to local crazies.
Among other reasons, agreed. That said, I doubt highly if she were to decide that route anyone, cauldron or otherwise is going to spend their time proving her case for her.
That said, as you are prolly aware Federal court F.R.C.P and F.R.E. are an entirely different animal. That ole open investigation porthole is not going to fly there.
B
Very. Because of recent professional endeavors outside of BOC, I cannot endorse, or give the appearance of endorsing any particular litigator so I am not posting that in compliance, lol.
B
@Rose says:
December 10, 2015 at 11:27 am
where did Reese point a finger at mcso for stop-start status of GJ2?
I posted the excerpt the other day- I can’t access it at the moment- anyone?
B
Here?
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-282/#comments
Hey Malty/erose and anyone else up north, you guys stay in and stay safe!!
We’re getting a ton of rain still as well, but so far no flooding in our area. We had a little thunder & lightning, but nothing like the winds and storm as it raged north through Lane County and further north. The good news out of this is that the temperature is lowering and we desperately still need snow in the mountains, so that is a good thing.
thank you.
no intent to endorse him as well.
His script just attributes his success to thoroughly
deposing all officers with suspected relevant info
In the vernacular
WORD.
B
@Truth I went out and got my new car battery and food and filled the gas tank . The wind and rain was bad but I felt so good out and about until I got home I opened the trunk and a big thunder hit some where close I thought it got me or the car at first
I have never been that close to thunder then hail and rain came.
Both of my dogs were in a panic poor babies
But I see Battle Creek across the river. Had a tornado while I was gone and lots of damage
This just seems endless
I think it is suppose to be dry and maybe over on Tues This is so wide spread that a lot of people are having problems and going with out their comforts I can think of people every where who may need some kind of help
Older people
Malty- you are my absolute hero some days you dear and kind lady. I am glad you are at least “set” to weather the storm and I will pray for your safety and Harper will pray for your puppies xo.
B
Thank you TRuth. Is here as you said:
“If it is suspended no records can live in the public domain, period. I don’t believe the mfh was introduced to the second grand jury- as we now know the allegation itself did not rise to the probable cause for a criminal charge and honestly, the States theory re Kyron’s disappearance is inexorably linked to that accusation so I am certain the first grand jury heard evidence in both matters. Wat I am shocked by, is that Rees declared MCSO was behind numerous suspensions of the empaneled gj- thats a finger point, imo
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-282/#comments
I missed that detail.
Which empanelled GJ did Rees finger point to mcso as responsible for suspensions?”
Any WHY would mcso do that?
Didn’t want another no true bill?
Has no 2 been disbanded or is it on permanent suspension?
Only #2 was empanelled- #1 was sitting.
No freaking clue that is going to make sense.
Of course they suspended it indefinitely.
B
OT @ Malty. according to my recent googling it’s gonna get worse & be bad on the West Coast all year.
I am in a place where there have either been monsoonlike undriveable rains (& plenty of stalled cars) OR
roaring winds, with palm trees so noisy in the roar it’s unsleepable. (freight trains headed north with constant whistles from a port also kill sleep). so I saw a news headline El Nino was the culprit in this State. So I googled el nino but your coast came up as the disaster site now & to come.
That is interesting Blink becauseSitting GJ 1 was for processing all felonies in the
County – the preferred method to charge. That they gave that much face time to
Terri & the mfh & abduction (which was really to be laid
at PPS’ and SZ’s feet) in 2010-11 with all the real criminal cases to be put
on tells me the DA’s Office was Real Deluded by MCSO.
And empanelling a special GJ outside of the 3 standing ones tells me MCDA was
hornswoggled by MCSO (becauseFrink wanted to be imo) a second time.
Word back at ya.
You enrich my vocab.
The person whose depo I’d like to see with every syllable he uttered to every LEO involved in the investigation beginning June 4, then walking thru the days (you said, he said) is Officer Young.
LOL. I doubt that. I do believe you are the leader in having me consult my thesaurus on BOC, sitewide, btw.
Not me. 3 way tie- Odonnell, Kravfe, Herron. In priority order.
B
@Rose says:
December 10, 2015 at 6:40 pm
I’m with Rose. Somebody was directing from the get go, and I’m pretty sure, when certain comments came out in Dateline, like *if not Terri, then who*, I’m sorry, but I believe someone was directing, I just don’t know if TY was following instructions or took them upon himself. I can’t see TY taking orders from KH, so I’m thinking it was the other way around. Then again, LE, IIRC, was still at the Horman residence, in additon to TY, a police officer himself. (Can you imagine?) .
It is about time Gov Brown!!
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/12/10/gov-brown-declares-state-emergency-13-counties/77129852/
@Rose. El Niño They have been warning us for awhile but I think Oregon is so use to ever changing weather that we not really getting it
As long as I can remember people have said if you don’t like the weather Wait 5 minutes LOL
Anyway Carol M is also a friend on Jaymie’s site. Carol has all but closed her site except for a few pics
There are pic of their 50th Anv. In 2009 They look wonderful At that time. Before Kyron went missing
You and Blink are really getting into stuff Great!
@Truth Doesn’t it drive a person crazy trying to figure out TY saying ” if not Terri. Why?
Then the hug between TY and Kaine at the press conference. Did these two know each other for a long time or what. Where did TY come from ? I thought CA but I don’t remember ever hearing that Do you know ?
I went looking fir Blink’s prior comments on her A list.
under Hereon’s HamsterWheel paragraph, here
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/comment-page-1/
My opinion – just 2 very dim bulbs (Kafvre probably the worst of the 2)
how these2 get near any investigation of any kind is beyond me
Imo Staton wholly lacked supervisiry chops & was clueless about
the direction, tactics, and expected work product of the Kafvre Krew.
The rot is from the top imo.
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@Blink. in deposing Tony, one probably gets more wrt your A list than attacking directly.
nah. He and his team were sprawled out on the porch for a few.
B
bowing to the now MIA pantheon of heros on that page –
hervness & numerous others.
Hornswoggled, new word for me as well. I like it.
I found it interesting that both DY & TY were set to be deposed, then DY dropped her civil suit. I know some think DY’s medical history was one of the reasons. I don’t believe that was the reason; I think it was dropped because TY would have been deposed, and he would not have been considered part of LE working on this case (who the Judge indicated could NOT be deposed), so he would be called. IMHO, he was in on *everything* that had transpired, at least in the beginning, so the DA’s office then had to somehow step in and put a stop to the civil case, now realizing the type of shenanigans that had been going on, and MCSO would be exposed, because prior to that they were all for the civil suit. If TY was *in on everything*, they could not possibly allow him be deposed.
I think that’s when the DA’s office brought Rees and Carlo (I forgot his last name) in to clean up the mess, by making sure the civil suit could not go forward…….due to on going investigations of course. (Snark.)
JMO
Malty, you are such a sweetie! Wish you were my neighbor.
O/T
Dec 11, 5:43 PM EST
Fired officer’s convictions a *rare triumph* for rape victims
By MATT SEDENSKY and SEAN MURPHY
Associated Press
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OKLAHOMA_OFFICER_ASSAULTS?SITE=AZTUS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — The rape convictions that could put a fired Oklahoma City police officer behind bars for life are vindication for some of the women he targeted, and also a reminder of how difficult it is to achieve justice in such cases.
Most victims never report sexual assaults, and those who accused ex-officer Daniel Holtzclaw were even more vulnerable as poor black women, many with checkered histories of crime and addiction.
A grandmother’s bravery in telling her story made all the difference this time. After Holtzclaw pulled her over, forced her to expose herself and perform oral sex, she filed a complaint that triggered a search for other victims.
(snipped, more @link):
“It shows that there is a hope for our country, there is hope for society and there is hope for all our sisters, mothers, wives, daughters, who are victims of rape, no matter what race they are, what ethnicity they are, what social-economic class and status they’re in,” said Benjamin Crump, a lawyer who plans to ***sue the city*** on behalf of some of the women.
(snipped again)
“That’s not an accident,” he said. “All kinds of sex offenders, particularly intelligent ones, they pick their victims because they know they’re less likely to be believed.”
***************
I thought that last comment was particularly of interest.
Yep. In particular, this just verdict and this felons reaction should exemplify the true cowardess of a sexual predator. He won’t last a year out of isolation, by his own hand or another.
B
@Truth I would love to be your neighbor but you would have to come to Portland Sloppy wet Portland is my love LOL. Did you hear Uhaul is giving some free storage to people with damaged homes Isn’t that wonderful
I think we are both thinking Tony but who is he? I keep searching
Out of the loop, catching up and probably still in left field, but our Internet is working!
Here is a Finster interview where she seems to paint TH in a positive light. FWIW.
snip>
Terri Horman Has Cared for Kyron Since He Was 3 Days Old
Jaymie Finster of Portland, Ore., told ABC News that Terri Hormon, a friend of hers, understands that she was probably the last one to see Kyron and that speculation about her has increased.
“She’s really tired and ready for Kyron to come home, a bit frustrated with the investigation pointing towards her and especially with the Internet blogging that’s going on,” Finster said.
Finster noted, however, that Kyron has been in Terri Horman’s life since he was only 3 days old.
“She has been his primary caregiver,” Finster said. “She actually stopped teaching to be home with him, to raise him.
“I remember her talking about when he was pre-school age and getting him ready on all the skills for reading and math … and thoroughly enjoying being with him,” Finster said. “She’s a very devoted mother.”
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/kyron-horman-stepmother-polygraph/story?id=10964865
Reread DDS’s interview thanks to Rose’s link. Just wondering what KH really thought TH would have done with Kyron and why had she turned him over to an attorney. It’s almost as if he feared some kind of legal action in which Kyron was either a witness or victim who needed the protection of an attorney. Or perhaps he just had LE search the place for sheer harassment, as was there general theme.
snip>
Editors Note: blinkoncrime.com has been able to confirm through an independent source which does not wish to be identified publicly, that Terri Horman was referred to her criminal defense attorney Stephen Houze via a family friend and attorney located in Bend, Oregon. Subsequently, Kaine Horman requested a search of the Bend attorney’s property, and indicated that Kyron may have gone there.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/comment-page-1/
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/12/multnomah_county_sheriff_makes.html
then & now Staton, upon apptmt, prior to his first election, made
several apptmts which by now have culminated in career pinnacles such as
L Yankee is at the top of her”cone”; ditto Shults.
And Gates went ftom Lt to Captn, & now Commander
of Investigations. We remember him as an early abduction mouthpiece.
Given Gates’ supervisory role of the (imo) 3 stooges dating to
2010, I propose him for mcso depo priority 3 over Union Honcho Herron.
This is a terrible thought, and I probably shouldn’t share, but with all the flooding and landslides around here, I can’t help thinking maybe something will wash up or out that will help us know what happened to Kyron. I doubt I’m the only one to think about this possibility.
You are not in the least MBS, and you said so sensitively for sure. I pray for it- most especially if the Universe can help out.
B
@MBS One reason I keep checking where the flooding is , which rivers And so on This rain has not let up unti this evening over here In 2 more days. That’s lots steady downpour Then the high waves on the coast
I think it is only natural to wonder if ,,,,,,
Hi Erose How are you doing
mbs, maybe someone is sweating.
Blink ifyour profile fits the abductor
(imo it does) what would be the
typical profiled disposition radius?
Was it 20 miles?
Depends on the SZ ID first, since we do not know… Based on Kaines confirmation (as well as others) the ID of SZ is not known to LE, therefore I will make the assumption that SZ was also not familiar to anyone in the school at least to elicit a name recognition. I have to believe he was familiar with the layout based on my limited witness info specifying a POV of both in and egress. Assuming this is random, but based on the advertised oppty of an open school and invitations to family and friends, I would put Kyron within scanner distance in an area well known to the offender that can be traversed post daylight.
Lots of assumptive and empirical data I am not at all comfortable with because right now we are talking about a a single event which means the exclusion is the rule.
Something that has occurred to me recently as I have spent some time re-reviewing data in this case. If we agree TH was seeking a beginning ped consult re ASPY or any spectral disorder and obtaining “documentation of observations-not a form LOL” this is a very transparent strategy seeking objective input, and frankly, seeking to exclude any possible medical malady or underlying contributors as well. Let’s ALL AGREE at that stage of intake if you will, this is not occurring in a vaccum- it could be congenital, an inutero issue, or environmental. Why in the world would someone seek to VERIFY such suspicions through a source that has ethical and mandatory reporting reporting procedures (potentially)?
B
If Desiree does another search in the spring, after floods, whither?
Stacey’s latest drum for GFM has been a dry well.
Desiree has been silent since Sept?
Did her bold unequivocal naming of Terri as the
abductor on national TV on CWD reach her pinnacle
such that she has no more to say?
erose says:
December 12, 2015 at 3:13 am
================================================================
Did that search in Bend take place, or did KH request it but nothing came of his request? I went to the link and the interview with DD but did not see anything confirming that a search of that property took place?
It did, by consent.
B
All I see is the Soldier says Terri is hiding under the name Tarver Her old name
That is illegal, it is not her name, and as usual the hater crater fails to consult any rules of law before posting such drivel. Not only would that be illegal but it would be in violation of a court order. I suspect that is her way of not telling the stalk and chalks she has no idea where she is and even if she finds out if she posts it will finally be how she gets shut down unilaterally.
B
Malty says:
December 13, 2015 at 1:41 pm
Great! Now all the no-life crazies on the hater pages can run around looking for families with the last name of Tarver, and harass them.
I can’t quite figure out how what this horrible woman “Soldier” is doing is not illegal when it puts lives at risk. What if one of her groupies finds some poor elderly couple with that last name and scares them both to death with threats and stalking and whatever else these idiots think is justified?
I can hear the excuses: “Oh, I was convinced they were her former in-laws!”
It is amusing that the Soldier has kind of painted her self in a corner Where she needs to know where Terri is to keep her faithful posting LOL
I know only two people who claim Aspergers . A father and son both adults One time the father told me how bad he felt that he passed it on to his son So when this came up I looked to see if this was possible What I read was it usually goes mother to son. Father to daughter But it can go father to son Both of these people are highly
Functional So I never paid much attention at the time And this is really all I know about the subject of Aspergers
Terri was the one seekng to VERIFY the etiology of classroom and at home behaviors based on someone from pps chiming in, a professional’s additional viewpoint something deserved eval. The behaviors were apparently occurring in all settings (school and home). We know the behaviors involved an attention deficit as described, if a pps asset suggested aspergers it maybe involved self stim behaviors and a social interactive misalignment, but probably not academic failures.
If she wanted oral teacher input, not reduced to what she knew was the norm of a form, that is odd.
Yes, she knew both the teacher & ped were required reporters if child abuse was suspected.
Was she hoping to trigger a home investigation at a time when uncle k was up for sentencing & using as a defense it runs in the family?
if so, in the course of divorce she never asked for a cps investigation of kaine with the far more vulnerable kiara. The elder Hill dau felt the milieu creepy enough in vibes she coukdn’t wait to finish her first visit and said no more. Dau 2 moved out asap tho she’s in school in the city. idk
” Why in the world would someone seek to VERIFY such suspicions through a source that has ethical and mandatory reporting reporting procedures (potentially)?”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments
Depends on what type of observations she asked teacher to document?
(mcso, go check that out…)
Depends on who else she asked for similar data. Likely ONE teacher was not the
only one she approached for behavioral observations. Coaches, extracurricular
instructors, Sunday Sch teacher, etc as possibilities.
Is it true Blink there was at least one incident of hypersexual behavior with kiara?
Impossible to remember gossip from fact by now. .
I can say that interviews I conducted POST July 2010 contained an incident that I am not comfortable publishing without credible source confirmation and corroboration.
B
some imandatory-reportable issue by ped would btw serve as strong
motive for bios to deny a dr apptmt for eval june 11 if either knew what
that issue was and that it was environmental
Yes, I agree. That has not been lost on me. Until I can decide if it is coincidental or not- I am trying to keep that neutral.
B
(snipped) “Why in the world would someone seek to VERIFY such suspicions through a source that has ethical and mandatory reporting reporting procedures (potentially)?
B”
For that very reason — Porter as a teacher is a mandated reporter of abuse/maltreatment/neglect (I’ll assume with the same obligations as a teacher in my state). TMH wanted back-up. I ponder — she is trying to slap some sense into her hyper-perfect-body-focused hubby that HIS OWN CHILD might need a medical screening for any number of possible issues which all have one thing in common, that is that they reflect lack of perfection. KH in turn displays a “not MY kid” attitude toward all of it. I’ve seen that in many families.
Refusing to allow HIS child to be examined by an MD for a “problem” that a stepparent sees (a stepparent who is also a trained teacher) is a big ruckus in the Horman relationship for a period of time, and then TMH gets fed up, does an end-run around KH and is able to phrase a request for some form of observed behavior — a “report” that is not official or on any “form” — to Porter.
The next day, Kyron’s abducted from the school.
So, kid on steroids?
Unfortunately, it happens. Macho man dad, hyped up himself on ‘roids, big on body image, and he has a son who isn’t showing any signs of growing up to be a big no-neck dude with rippling muscles. TMH, who has an education that trained her to observe children far more carefully than most of us do, notices her stepson is a little ditzy walking in and out of rooms at home?
It was reported early in the case that TMH discussed Kyron wandering off to a few Skyline parents? I remember reading that and noticing that the report was written from a snark POV — as if the person writing it felt, or the parents felt, that TMH was a drama queen. Oye.
Someone didn’t want anyone to find out what Kyron ate in his cereal besides milk? Steriods were/are part of this case.
Just sayin’….