Holly Bobo Kidnapped And Murdered: Source Says She May Have Been Informant, Alive For Weeks
On February 28, 2014 The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation (TBI) Director Mark Gwyn announced the search of 29 year old Zachary Rye Adam’s residence in conjunction with the abduction of Holly Lynn Bobo. Bobo, a 20 year old nursing student, was abducted from her Darden, TN home nearly 3 years earlier. Gwyn made it clear during that announcement that they expected to find Holly alive at one of the ensuing searches occurring in multiple counties that day.
"This is a very important time in this investigation," Gwyn told reporters today as the TBI and FBI searched property on Adams Lane in northern Decatur County. "We're not going to say or do anything at this point to interfere with this investigation. Hopefully we'll be able to return Holly home safely to her parents. That's our goal.
Five days later, after a Circuit Judge called the 24th Judicial District Grand Jury back into session, it took them less than three hours to return an indictment for especially aggravated kidnapping and first degree murder.
Zachary Rye Adams and Jason Wayne Autry have been indicted for the especially aggravated kidnapping and first degree felony murder in Holly Bobo’s case. A third suspect, Shayne Kyle Austin was about to be indicted when his criminal defense attorney, Luke Evans, filed a civil suit against the State of Tennessee to enforce an immunity agreement Austin signed. John Dylan Adams, Zachary’s brother currently incarcerated and awaiting sentencing on Federal weapons charges will be testifying as a witness in this case. He says Holly was last seen following her abduction- ALIVE.
The “A-Train” as dubbed by locals who knew them based on the initials of their last names and the frequency for which they were seen together were household names to the residents of the tiny community in Decautur County, TN. They have various criminal histories dating back to their teens.
They’re creepy and their kooky, … altogether spooky.. The Adams Family
The Adams brothers, Zach and ‘Dylan’ as John is referred to, live in multiple houses perched on the land bearing the family surname which was passed down to them by their grandfather John and Grandmother Becky who died 12 days before Holly’s abduction. Tim Adam’s, the boys’ father, died of complications from drug use in 2003.
Donna “Karen” Bobo, Holly Bobo’s Mother and elementary school teacher, had young Zach and Dylan in her class.
Zach Adams, in the lead between the two for the size of his rap sheet, has felony convictions for shooting his Mother Cindy at point blank rang with a 9MM handgun, and within 6 months of his release on that charge wielded a shotgun at his grandparents during a drug binge. In a pre-sentencing report on his current gun charges, Dylan Adams reports he has had alcohol and substance abuse issues with minor burglary charges since he was a teen, and would like to serve his sentence in a minimum Federal prison in Atlanta, GA.
Zach Adams was out on bond or on probation from three separate criminal incidents to involve booze, drugs, assaulting a Natchez Park Ranger when Bobo was abducted from her home. On April 4th, Adams was arrested in Natchez Park with the assistance of the Henderson County Sheriff's Office along with his passenger, Robert "Shawn" Moody.
From the Jackson Sun:
Zachary Adams was arrested in Natchez Trace State Park on April 4, 2011, following a traffic stop.
Adams and his passenger Robert S. Moody, seemed nervous, the report says. Adams told the ranger he was bringing Moody to look at the damage and that the two men needed to get to the other side of the park.
"...Hill saw a six-pack of beer bottles in the back floorboard, and two of the bottles appeared to be open.
Hill asked Adams to step out of the truck and asked if there was anything illegal in the vehicle. Adams said “no,” and gave Hill permission to search the truck.Rangers also found a pill bottle on Moody containing seven different pills, the report said.
Along with resisting arrest and assaulting the officer, Adams was charged with possession of drug paraphernalia, drug possession, tampering with evidence, reckless driving and violation of the open container law.
Moody was charged with drug possession..."
Moody is also a convicted felon and was arrested in Florida in 2005 for failing to register as a sex offender for a statutory rape charge he was convicted of in Decatur.
"Shawn" Moody's wife Stormy Winters Moody was convicted of aggravated burglary in 2013 for stealing the contents of her neighbor's home. Ms. Moody was wearing some of the clothing from her heist when police arrived, while standing in the front yard of her home.
For several locals and this author, Zach Adams, Jason Autry and Shayne Austin were names associated with the investigation within weeks of Holly’s disappearance. Prior to Adam’s indictment he was arrested on drug possession charges in Benton County at his girlfriend’s home. On the day his home and property were searched by investigators he was also charged with aggravated assault against the sister of his girlfriend, Amber Bray. Charges from the incident which occurred February 6th, 2014 included Adams holding a gun to her head and threatening to “gut her” for speaking with police about his possible involvement.
On February 24th, 4 days before the multiple searches conducted on different counties in the Bobo case, Ms. Bray’s son Christopher and his girlfriend Toni Craig were operating a van that was pulled over in a traffic stop; the van was registered to Ms. Bray. The Benton County Sherriff’s Office recovered over $60,000 in cultured pearls in several duffel bags from the van and when investigators went to the Bray home to recover the rest- Adams was standing in the front yard with a handful he said he wanted to “turn over”. He was arrested on a drug possession charge shortly thereafter, posted bond again and released.
In what can only be described as an extremely odd coincidence, the last major theft of pearls or in this case, pearls in shells, involved extended family members and friends of Adams. Danny Vine and Stella Thornton were brutally murdered in their Camden, Tennessee home on the evening of January 16, 1991. Danny, an accomplished shell buyer with an assortment of day workers, sold much of his yield to or through the Tennessee Shell Company (TSC). In 1998 The Tennessee Shell Company agreed to pay a $1,000,000 fine after 18 people were indicted for selling illegally harvested pearls/shells. While the Tennessee Shell Company no longer has an active business license, members of the Arnold family, associated with the management of TSC are friends of Bray’s. Two local brother’s, and extended kin, Gerry Lee and Charles Bruce were eventually tried and convicted.
But not before Sheila Kay Bradford, the live-in girlfriend would visit the TBI to turn over information about Bruce after leaving the residence in fear. She was offered Federal protection but refused when she learned she would have to testify. Two days later, on September 22, 1992, Bradford’ car was found with the keys in the ignition at a relative’s home. She has never been seen since and her disappearance has been ruled suspicious.
Kissing Killing Cousins
Jason Wayne Autry is Holly Bobo’s second cousin. He has an extensive criminal history which includes, by his own admission, leadership in the Aryan Brotherhood.
He also claims to have converted his past sins and deeds since finding faith after a near fatal infection in prison. Autry is serving the equivalent of a life sentence in Federal prison. Indicted on March 28th, Autry, an impeding chum at 6’ 7” tall, is not likely to be the suspect Holly encountered in her backyard as described by her brother Clint.
Shayne Kyle Austin, whose parent’s property is situated closely to the Bobo property was at one time, close friends with Holly’s Cousin Natalie Bobo. He also worked for a time for Dana Bobo, Holly’s Father, until he fired him. It is not known if the incident is related, but this occurs around the time that Natalie’s Father Leonard, and Dana Bobo travel across state lines to bring Natalie home in an effort to intervene and provide an avenue for substance abuse issues she was suffering, as well her choice of activity to fund same.
He has an extensive criminal history and closely resembles a sketch developed by Candace Wood, a friend of Holly’s who attended the Coon hunt with her 4 days before her disappearance of a man who appeared to be fixated on her, and speaking into his phone at the same time. Austin is approximately 5’10” and wears glasses.
Out of the three suspects to date, he also closely matches the description of the man seen walking into the woods with her, we know now as alleged by the TBI, with a weapon to insure her compliance. Austin, and Michael Lee Alexander were moved from different county correctional facilities into Decatur jail on March 2, 2014. Lee lives in the adjacent property to Adam’s on Pughe Rd.
Two days later, on March 4, Zach Alexander “coerces” his brother through one, or both of them.
On March 5th, former Decatur resident and convicted rapist Victor Dinsmore, an associate of all three of the accused claims he passed a polygraph, thus, “clearing his name.” Sources inside the investigation have confirmed that Dinsmore and his wife Sandy are material witnesses in the case against all three men- but specifically informed investigators that Zach Adams openly bragged about what happened to Holly Bobo while a guest at the Dinsmore residence.
On March 6th, Austin signed an immunity deal a day after Adams indictment.
So- how does a 20 year old nursing student and aspiring singer cross paths with the likes of Adams, Autry and Austin? The old adage You can’t pick your family may be a factor.
Guilt by Association?
Sources close to the investigation speaking to BOC Editor In Chief, S. Christina Stoy on the condition of anonymity have confirmed her earlier reports that there was a parallel Federal investigation being conducted by the Wilson County Sheriff’s Office, FBI and the DEA involving a prescription and illegal drug ring. A tip from a reader to Ms. Stoy was turned over to the TBI in 2011. To protect the integrity of the ongoing investigation, BOC has redacted case-sensitive details.
Blink
Let me bring you out of the dark.
Holly is alive and safe.
She has been in PC since the night of the 18th
This is all connected to the federal drug investigation involving prescription pain pills.
Holly overheard a conversation at Jackson General and went to authoritiesfederal informant at the time of her abduction. Do you remember the “rumor” about Holly being seen at a drug house in Scotts Hill the weekend prior to her abduction? Not a rumor. She was working with TBI on a sting and wearing a wire. I know this sounds unbelievable but I am coming at you straight up because I respect you and your work on this case. I am not a local but have local kin. If you would like to discuss this more you can email me at (redacted)
Some things to consider before you discount what Im saying.
-Zach Adams is in federal custody and he is talking. He was arrested a while back and charged with aggravated assualt for beating the piss out of his GF for talking to LE.
-The cousins of Holly that are involved in her abuction are last name (redacted)
-This is also involving fradulent car sales. Burning and turning fake titles, cars coming from KY stolen
-Look into Coy Johnson he was raided recently for drugs (pain pills) and fradulent car sales lives behind Hardee’s. He is connected.
-redacted
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-The family is being blackmailed with pictures of Holly.
-(redacted) are all peanuts compared to who are involved.
-Please go back over the timeline with at least the assumption she was rescued in Nanchez on the 18th the SAME night Sheriff John Edwards was arrested after the final payment was interceded by TBI.
-It is not a concidence that John Edwards was paid a down payment of 15,000 on the 12th and Holly was abducted on the 13th just like its not a concidence that Edwards was arrested on the 18th and Holly was rescued and the next day the reward was topped off to 85,000 the exact amount left owing Edwards minus the range rover.
-There is a Memphis USM staying at cabin 16.
Consider everything and for what its worth I am dead serious and have the name of who saw her at the cabin. I have the names of who found her (redacted)at Cherokee landing. I even have the burner phone number Holly is in posession of
Jason Autry is protecting Shayne and has threatened to kill quite a few people including his(redacted) The guy that worked at (redacted)is in PC.
The head of this TYPHOEUS has a name. John Patrick Edwards.
Former Wilson County Detective and member of the Joint Violent Crimes Task Force (JVCTF) and Safe Streets Task Force (SSTF), Edwards was cleaning up the streets of drugs, guns and fake car titles. In conjunction with the resources of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) in an investigation that began in 2009 and was spread across 3 states, Edwards built his own criminal enterprise to include drug dealers turned informant and informants turning into defendants. The problem with that was that he was stealing most of it under all of their collective noses, apparently.
It was not until Edwards was arrested for a kerfuffle in March 2011 involving stealing from his girlfriend to gift his wife and vice versa that his colleagues found out what he was up to.
Edwards way out of his boiling pot was to sell the information he learned while heading the task forces, specifically, the names of the Federal Agents and informants to the targets of the criminal investigations.
On April 11, 2011, Rodney Settles, Edward’s business partner with Bidmoor Auctions enters the fray.
Edwards summons Settles and tells him he needs money, $100,000 and a Range Rover to be exact, and he needs it the next day. He tells him (through Settles) something MAJOR is about to go down in the operation in short order. He tells them there is a new informant that is unknown to him.
Settles, is named by an cooperating source (CS) and interceded by Agents following a meeting with Edwards, in which Edwards asks him to kill his wife- he refuses, and asks him to approach the “target” of the ongoing investigations to prompt payment to him in exchange for providing the names of the Federal agents he is working with, and more importantly, a “new” informant.
Settles remains in Federal custody (FBI) for most of the evening April 11th but agrees to cooperate, agrees to act as an informant for the JVTF; Edwards had been removed without pay weeks earlier.
On April 12, 2011, the day before Holly Bobo’s abduction, Edwards gets a $15,000 down payment for his proffer of information. Intentionally planted to track Edward’s efforts- according to documents obtained in his case, he was told there was a new informant that was not identified. He did however give up the agents names according to the affidavit, and it should be noted that the only evidence of who he told “what” to, is based on the court transcript. It is certainly feasible that no target devices were ever presented in court as belonging to Edwards, that he had every opportunity to alert others of similar information. Edwards headed the task force for Wilson County and Lebanon Police Department for years and he did so in a vacuum; at least that is what the supporting documents would like you to believe. This sentiment includes Former Wilson County Sheriff Terry Ashe, who retired following the fiasco, but not before blaming the FBI for not minding the store- stating John Edwards acted alone.
According to his audit response by Ashe, as conducted by the State of Tennessee Comptroller’s Director Jim Arnett, excerpted in pertinent part:
It was always my understanding that all officers in the Joint Violent Crimes Task Force (JVCTF) with the Wilson County Sheriff’s Department, the Lebanon Police Department, and the FBI were being supervised by the FBI. This can be supported again by the copies of the MOU and the MOA. This within itself does not excuse the conduct of a former employee who appears to have acted alone in his efforts to discredit himself, but those who worked around him. It appears that his plans were so well designed that not only did the Lebanon Police Department, the Wilson County Sheriff's Department, the FBI, and the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), and our local district attorney general’s office did not recognize this activity even though they worked alongside Deputy Edwards on a day-to-day basis.
The audit, which contains no vehicle identification numbers, no account numbers, no reference to the fact that Edwards was a partner in an auction house with a revoked license or the status of any other parties who had access to evidence or funds- concludes Edwards acted alone.
What is even more curious, is that the report at no time recognizes that the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) is an agency of record in the investigations. Edwards and the targets of several investigations to include those he stole from, did not prosecute, his informants and business partner were all arrested on April 18, 2011.
Critically import dates here- April 11th, Settles interceded for several hours and Edwards knew. April 12th, Settles tells (CS-1) names of interest, secures down payment. April 18th, everyone is arrested.
Within documents of the sworn affidavit by DEA Special Agent Tanya (insert) it is learned that during the course of the investigation that 3 cell phones have NOT received Judicial tap and trace approval and subsequently there is no further mention of those phones or their collected data. There are nearly 50 pages missing from this filing.
Was Holly, or someone she associated with, the owner of Target cellphones #6, #7 or #9?
Edwards Is currently serving 18 years for obstruction of an official proceeding and Settles is serving The 21 arrested in the April 18 corral are still pending in Federal Court with all recent docket submissions under seal. Edwards plead guilty in April 2013 to an additional 10 counts in State Court, adding 12 years to the Federal sentence.
What appears to be the primary target of the investigation, Zabeesh Syed, a Pakistani national, has been held in isolation since his plea in 2012. There is approximately $35K still unaccounted for in Wilson County Sheriff’s Dept. and no accounting of the missing evidence, or cross reference of the VIN numbers of the missing cars is available.
Meth-ED
While it is undeniable that the tipster points out the date coincidences in the Wilson County/JVTF and the fact that it correctly names the current suspects, do we assume from that Holly was kept alive and held captive in an effort to thwart someone’s prosecution?
Was Holly Bobo, who attempted to intervene in support of assistance to her cousin Natalie targeted as an informant? Dylan Adams claims to have those answers- he says he last saw her alive.
Director Gwyn, with knowledge of inside information went on record on February 28th believing Holly Bobo was alive. However, do his statements before the Senators at the State Capital on the day of Zachary Adam’s arraignment tell a different story, OR, Do they tell the real story of what happened to Holly Bobo?
"I've been battling this meth issue for a long time," Gwyn said.
Gwyn then mentioned a name that those like state Sen. John Stevens, R-Huntingdon, didn't expect to hear: Holly Bobo.
"That was surprising to me that that was brought up, but it's relevant," Stevens said.
It's relevant in this hearing because Gwyn said Bobo's case has to do with meth.
"I worked one of the first methamphetamine-related murders back into the 90s, where a guy kidnapped two young men, tortured them for seven days, killed both of them, threw them off into Center Hill Lake," Gwyn said. "Fast-forward to 2014, and I thought in my career that would be the only time I would ever see anything like that."
"We made an arrest. Lo and behold, the person has several meth-related charges. And the night we arrested him, he was trying to get meth into the jail," Gwyn said.
"At what point do we stop the murders? I don't want to inconvenience anybody. There is no family in this state that deserves to go through what that family went through for the past three years," Gwyn said. – TBI Director Mark Gwyn
BOC has uncovered the case that Gwyn is referring to – and it is gruesome. The parallels to Holly’s case, the tipster accuracy, and the unfolding events to date in the arrests of those responsible are explosive.
Excerpted, in pertinent part:
Appellate C ourt Clerk
STATE OF TENNESSEE, ) No. 03C01-9707-CR-00299
)
Appellee )
) Cumberland County
vs. )
) Honorable John Turnbull, Judge
JAMES CHRISTOPHER TATROW, )
) (Felony Murder, Especially Aggravated
Appellant ) Kidnapping)
Phillip Lane Lawrence, James Talbert Hendrixson, Jr., Michael Redmon, Jeffrey Sanders and Kenny Mason were indicted for two counts of premeditated murder, two counts of felony murder, and two counts of especially aggravated kidnapping. Jimmy Anthony Dan was indicted for kidnapping only, and Bruce Edward Rochefort was indicted for kidnapping and aggravated assault. These men were awaiting trial when Tatrow’s case was tried.
The defense called the other defendants to the stand but each one refused to testify on Fifth Amendment grounds.
The appellate opinion can be read here. WARNING- IT is graphic and disturbing. Three years after the murders, Connie Tatrow was indicted and subsequently convicted of conspiracy to distribute methamphetamines. Another disturbing coincidence to the Bobo case is that in James Tatrow’s initial police interviews, he claimed that the murder victims (insert) had been picked up from the Dry Creek area by someone in a black Camaro. Shortly after Holly was abducted, pictures surfaced online, by an individual whose residence ended up being searched in the case, Anthony Calabrese of a black Camaro, claiming to have Holly’s flip flops near the door.
With a clear motive from TBI Director Gwyn, which occurs after recorded conversations taking place between alleged suspects in Decatur County jail following which he presumably was briefed and subsequent plea deal for Austin indicating he will provide the location of Holly’s remains the assumption can be drawn that prosecutors and TBI investigators know what happened to Holly Bobo that ultimately ended her life.
The question becomes- Do WE ever really want to know?
The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation is continuing to interview and investigate possible additional suspects. The TBI is asking anyone with information to call 1-800 TBI FIND
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you said:
On February 28, 2014 The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation (TBI) Director Mark Gwyn announced the search of 29 year old Zachary Rye Adam’s residence in conjunction with the abduction of Holly Lynn Bobo. Bobo, a 20 year old nursing student, was abducted from her Darden, TN home nearly 3 years earlier. Gwyn made it clear during that announcement that they expected to find Holly alive at one of the ensuing searches occurring in multiple counties that day.
Are you saying they expected to find Holly alive in 2014?
Yes, Dir Gwyn’s quote is in the piece.
B
I have followed this from the beginning. I find it interesting that a radio host in Tennessee announced shortly after holly went missing that she was alive and a rumor that she had been found in a cabin in Natchez trace and airlifted her to a hospital in Vandy and was in protective custody until they could arrest the 3 men responsible. I can only hope that this is not a coincidence with your informants facts but true for her family’s sake.
Re: Holly Bobo #2 4/25/11 -
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2011, 12:39:25 AM »
Quote from: klaasend on April 26, 2011, 12:37:24 AM
This is a radio guy in the area:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1087626372&sk=wall#hollybobo
Bill Way
Holly Bobo IS alive. wish i cud tell you more. but can’t. Unconfirmed. But extremely possible it appears.
2 hours ago
Bill Way the info is very probable. but in this business you never know until the authorities speak.
2 hours ago
I tried the link as says unavailable…
Re: Holly Bobo #2 4/25/11 -
« Reply #56 on: April 26, 2011, 11:55:27 AM »
no idea if this is true, RUMOR from Topix. I’m hoping she is alive.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/parsons-tn/TK55ARE5SO6IVJ2JE/p31
post #631 from Leah:
I really have no clue. I’ll give you the short story. The rumor was that she had been found in a cabin in Natchez Trace last Monday, 4/11. They found this out because someone came forward that knew about it and said that if LE would keep him from getting into trouble that he would tell them who the 3 guys were. Supposedly, they rescued Holly, airlifted her to Vandy, and are now trying to piece together enough to arrest the 3 guys. Remember, this was just a RUMOR, even though several people at the fairgrounds swear that they saw the helicopter fly over….now 3 guys have been mentioned again by Bill Way. As for who the guys are, I have no idea. Pretty far fetched in my opinion, but I trust Bill Way.
Dear Ms. Blink, have you seen this?
. Breaking news on Kelli Bordeaux. I posted on her last thread as well.
http://abc11.com/news/remains-of-kelli-bordeaux-found—man-charged/59493/
Wow. IF she was an informant do you believe her immediate family knew about it? Could that explain why the 911 tapes were never released and why the mother seemed to know right away she was being kidnapped (despite knowing Drew was hunting)? Or if you’re an informant are you sworn to secrecy?
I have such a hard time seeing Holly being an informant – it is just so risky and she just seemed like a young carefree girl that was focused on nursing school and her boyfriend. I’m sure she was worried about Natalie but I think that most of us have had a family member we care about who was into some heavy stuff- would you really care enough to put yourself in a potentially dangerous situation?
So maybe she was a patsy? Plus the fact that her father fired one of the suspects is huge for me.
@tar heel gal – thx for the update on Kelli Bordeaux. Absolutely devastating. I’ve followed both of these cases and the suspects in both of them should have all been locked up in the cages they belong.
I guess the problem I’m having is reconciling under what scenario the TBI thinks she could possibly be alive after all this time, coupled with these men being charged with her murder, in which we presume they have physical evidence that she could no longer be alive, even if they don’t have her body. These two views are incongruous, yet presented simultaneously. If they really think she is still alive, do they really think it is possible that this disorganized group of violent methheads kept her hidden for this long without anyone finding out?
Second, you indicate that she was kept alive ‘for weeks’. I’m wondering why you think it’s specifically weeks, not days, as the Tatrow case was two days. I guess my question is, to what end would she be kept alive for weeks, or months, or years? I’m just trying to wrap my head around a) her STILL being alive, or b) her being kept alive for longer than a couple of days. I mean, I guess I don’t see methheads being that forward-thinking, but they had the clarity to plan this out without being caught for three years, so I guess it’s possible? But I just really can’t see them risking keeping her alive.
Lastly, I also don’t think it’s likely she was placed in protective custody and is thus alive under witness protection. There’s no way her information is that valuable to the government that it would necessitate a lengthy PC.
I can’t speak for Gwyn- so I don’t know under what auspice he was operating when he very clearly indicated they were going to bring Holly home safely- but I believe we will find out eventually.
I believe much of the tipster’s opinion, that is why I presented it in full. I don’t know for how long she was kept alive, and as unprofessional as it may sound, I fear I never want to.
Yes, the theories are incongruent, but they were not presented simultaneously. On Feb 28th- LE thinks she is alive. Following the jailhouse conversation, they don’t. It was recorded so it will be in evidence.
B
Blink, I know you can’t say who it is, but do you who the tipster is?
yes, and so does LE.
B
Blink, are you going to post a link to the FBI agent’s affidavit?
It was the DEA agents, and I was advised not to because parts of it remain under seal and it is not a complete record. Additionally, there are parts of it that I am aware should have been redacted according to statute that are not. If you have any specific questions, I will do my best to answer.
B
also, not quite understanding what the tipster meant by a ‘Memphis USM’ – US Marine?
I believe that was US Marshall
B
Blink, what did you think about Autry’s little interview?
I am certified to interview, interrogate and report findings in the Reid School (advanced) and to assess and analyze other interviews.
It is next to impossible to do that with snippets and the camera trained away to the reporter and back to Autry.
If at some point they provide an unedited version, that would be ideal. I need to establish a baseline on the suspect.
What I think is particularly noteworthy however, is what Fletcher Long said. The State has to prove there has even been a death, a crime, before he can defend such charges. I presume that means that he has not received any discovery.
B
I hope you can get the unedited.
What we can infer from a jailhouse interview sanctioned by attorney
is that the attorney is not from the S Houze School of Defense, therefore
Autry’s outlook weakens.
His argument makes sense to me.
If there’s no evidence but Dylan’s word whilst
in jail on an unrelated charge,
seems like troubled waters ahead.
@Blink. Are you saying there is independent evidence of death,
subject to Discovery?
There had better be, but all I can say for certain is that the State has said they have physical evidence in the case. It is my personal opinion that they must. I could not get the State to present to the GJ in the Sharpton case and we had a body and DNA linking the offender- this jurisdiction would never have filed if they didn’t, imo.
B
Shayne Austin, the man who was given an immunity deal (which was later reneged by the DA) has also given information. What, if anything, did he have to say about Jason Autry?
Dylan would not dredge up the wrath of three spiteful and violent men to acquire an early release IMO. That would be a huge risk as there would be no guarantee they would be tried and convicted only to come after him after being released.
Investigators appear confident they have the perps which certainly gives the appearance they have evidence ample to convict.
Autry can sit in his cell and keep blowing smoke… and wishing he had come out sooner and set the others up for the fall so he could be free and walk away with the $280k reward fund. I know he’s thinking it, “Why didn’t I set them up and take that dang money?”.
O he is involved- I laughed at the reward money comment- he knows full well that nobody involved or complicit can profit from the crime.
B
They know what they did to her. I know their brains are beyond fried so they may not remember all the detail,but they know exactly what they did. He said, that Dylan and Zack hate each others guts and that was a way for Dylan to get even with him, well you gotta hate somebody pretty damn bad to try to implicate them in a murder they did not commit.
N. Cahela 13 – That’s make complete sense to me.
quote:
Yes, the theories are incongruent, but they were not presented simultaneously. On Feb 28th- LE thinks she is alive. Following the jailhouse conversation, they don’t. It was recorded so it will be in evidence.
B
If she was alive, one of these junkies would have or should have spoken by now, considering the charges against them. I believe Gwyn’s statement about Holly being alive was just plain reckless. ZA stated ‘he didn’t do it’…but he sure as H E L L was there. IT…being what? Rhetorical question.
If she were alive, they would have found here. These punks have proven they will talk if they get something out of it. Holly would be home by now.
My thoughts may be plain and simple…and lack forensic intelligence but if anyone (TBI, LE…whomever) is claiming she’s alive without evidence, I suspect it will be a problem for prosecution @ trial. No body….no charges. I learned there’s no such thing as a sure thing, bless Caylee’s heart.
They need to find her for this trial to go ahead. Just my humble opinion.
If there was a large amount of blood evidence, or other materials with substantial amounts of DNA evidence on it matching Holly, I think they could prove a murder occurred without a body. If any of the A train’s DNA is found on Holly’s belongings, that would seal their fate. I am prayerful that this family find her. God bless them.
Gag order denied. Is that good or bad?
http://www.newschannel5.com/story/25628224/judge-denies-gag-order-in-case-against-holly-bobo-murder-suspect
If anyone has ever doubted my opinion this case is part of an additional investigation, please note that at the end of the segment, the reporter states there are 90,000 pages of discovery in this case.
I do not love that the State sought a gag order. That has it’s own connotations and the ruling was sound. I sincerely wish Mrs. Bobo would solely speak through counsel.
B
Blake Barnett got arrested on charges “unrelated” to Holly’s case… but those charges give me a lot of pause
. http:\\m.wmctv.com/#!/newsDetail/25647237?orgId=59
Also, I’ve seen some things on the “Justice for Holly Bobo” Facebook page about them not allowing Holly’s picture to be shown in court… which confuses me… and that the on-camera interview could have tainted the jury pool. I don’t get it… do they really think they’re not going to have to pull a jury from elsewhere in the state (like they did for the Lester Street Massacre… jury from Nashville, case tried here in Memphis) regardless of whether or not the interview happened? (For whatever it’s worth, I didn’t see the interview on any of my local stations. ) What gives?
@MandyVS 5/30/14 at 1:13 p.m.
I can’t get your link to work, what are the charges?
Domestic violence and kidnapping.
Here’s a link to a different station’s story:
http://www.wsmv.com/story/25647237/bobos-ex-boyfriend-faces-kidnapping-assault-charges
http://www.wsmv.com/story/25647237/bobos-ex-boyfriend-faces-kidnapping-assault-charges
http://m.wtoc.com/#!/newsDetail/25646837
looks drug-addled & pathetic.
He was also arrested last month on an aggravated burglary charge. This young man has a horrific past, and has not gone very left of that center, unfortunately. I can only tell you that there was a domestic order in place when Holly went missing, and as I understand it, Mrs. Bobo named him during the 911 call- which has not been released. According to my sources he is not a suspect in Holly’s disappearance, however, I think even those very close to this investigation may be subject to withheld information.
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more
http://www.wbbjtv.com/news/local/Man-Arrested-after-Fight-with-Uncle-261196221.html?m=y&smobile=y
http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20140531/NEWS01/305310011/Assault-report-leads-drug-discovery-Decatur-County
http://www.wsmv.com/story/25647237/bobos-ex-boyfriend-faces-kidnapping-assault-charges
http://www.missingpersonsofamerica.com/2014/05/holly-bobo-ex-boyfriend-arrested-on.html?m=1
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If this prosecution is based solely on a jailhouse snitch to cover his ass wrt his concerns, then the
prosecutors are fools imo. Has any forensic evidence whatsoever been mentioned?
BB has chosen a path that will not end until he is incarcerated and probably not even then. So, the question remains as no one knows for sure, what is his involvement with HB’s kidnapping and murder?
And now Blake Barnett’s under arrest, for kidnapping, no less. He always stood out to me as someone who was capable of that particular crime – a stalker, if you will. I’ve never been able to completely dismiss him in Holly’s case. Eerie.
Will do and thank you.
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http://www.newschannel5.com/story/25733037/authorities-not-commenting-on-possible-new-holly-bobo-evidence
Mark Pearcy and Jeff Pearcy arrests.
The Pearcy name is familiar to anyone who followed the disappearance of Kristi Baugus Moon- and likely homicide at the hands of the Father of her child, Jeff Pearcy.
Yes, I literally just gave y’all 2 legacy names, that appear on Holly’s FB.
Anyone still wondering if the Bobo’s are not possibly the last people outside of TBI that do not have information on the brutal murder of their beloved daughter? There are deeper layers still we are monitoring. It is unfathomable how many people knew or were involved OR BOTH with the rape, torture and murder of this child who felt justified in any way to conceal same.
Who does that?
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Blink,
You called it. I feel like the arrests are happening like 4th of July fireworks. I hope they get ‘em all! And I mean, how many Pearcys are there, really? Holy cow, her facebook is littered with them. I feel bad for the ones that have nothing to do with this, but God will have his way with the ones that did.
Yes, he will. If I did not believe that entirely, this would be the case that I would never want to know the truth.
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Each day it seems like more horrible information comes out in this case. I can’t imagine being the family of this girl who had everything going for her and a promising future. These people have a total disregard for humanity. What kind of creatures are they? We live in a scary world where are children are unsafe. God bless this suffering family.
Ok B, I’ve had to go over this piece line by line over and OVER to digest it. It’s seriously like dissecting a riddle or poetry!
You say that Settles was interceded after his meeting w/ Edwards in which he asked him to murder his wife.
Later on you say that on April 11, 2011- Settles interceded for several hours and Edwards knew.
What is your definition of interceded?
It was 2 meetings, Settles was interceded (it is a law enforcement term, it means to act or interpose on behalf of another) in this case the FBI, after both of them. The first he was interviewed and agreed to cooperate, the second he was wearing a wire.
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Edit: you said:
“Settles, is named by an cooperating source (CS) and interceded by Agents following a meeting with Edwards, in which Edwards asks him to kill his wife- he refuses, and asks him to approach the “target” of the ongoing investigations to prompt payment to him in exchange for providing the names of the Federal agents he is working with, and more importantly, a “new” informant.”
Also- I’m can’t figure out- Settles obviously became a JCVTF informant after his first mtg with Edwards.
You wrote: “Critically import dates here- April 11th, Settles interceded for several hours and Edwards knew. April 12th, Settles tells (CS-1) names of interest, secures down payment. April 18th, everyone is arrested.”
So did he do all of this BEFORE becoming an informant on 4/11/11?
If he became an informant that day AND IF Holly was the new unnamed source….then why on GGE would they not water board the cooperating witnesses to find her alive? I guess that’s if these informants came forward well after the fact. Well, maybe “agreed to cooperate” is the better term.
I’m pulling my hair out now. Please help a long time Blinker understand what you’re trying to tell us.
Thanks for the edit Pep- I addressed it upthread, Settles and Edwards were under surveillance, Settles was interceded, Settles wears wire- to my knowledge and as I indicated in the piece- there are nearly 50 pages missing from the public record from the affidavit, which I note was sealed for almost 2 years in the first place. I don’t know if LE was aware of and if Holly’s case was connected. I can only say what I can back up, as you know.
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Saw a story tonight on Memphis news that TBI is confirming the tape is related to Holly’s case, but that they don’t have it. Blink, what’s your take on whether or not this tape exists? If it does… hell, regardless of whether it does or not… I shudder to think how much further down the rabbit hole this whole thing will go before there are answers. This she*t just keeps getting darker and darker.
My take as I stated once Adams was charged, and privately beforehand because of the amount of people that I suspected were involved and their propensity to tape everything- is that a video exists of Holly in captivity, alive, and that the tip I posted in the piece continues to vett out- I believe that a still image of it was sent to the Bobo’s.
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Blink – you say you believe a still image was sent to the Bobos. Was this the text that was sent to her mom from Holly’s phone shortly after she disappeared?
Also, early on (and sorry, but I don’t have the exact quote) you said something to the effect of TBI changing Clint’s story and having a tactical reason for doing so. Do you believe Clint knew exactly who he saw, but they wanted to keep it under wraps for investigative purposes?
Yes, Jack.
I believe I said that TBI asked Clint not to speak publicly, which was true, but I was more of the opinion that varying accounts were manipulated by LE or media- not Clint. I know that this boy underwent every kind of exam he could to solicit more from his observations if possible. I am convinced Clint did not suspect his Sister was in danger at any time until he spoke to his Mother who had a different view. That child ran into the woods with a shotgun he intended to use – and he would have, imo.
Any BS account from anyone claiming any differently is just that.
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WTH, no wonder no one was talking to TBI…..your fate is truly at risk by this cesspool of creepers. Why, Why, Why, how could so many people be involved in something so sordid?
I completely agree about Clint – I never once thought he acted suspiciously or in disregard for his sister. I just wonder if he and LE realized soon afterward who was involved, and that’s why they manipulated his story. I also recall you saying something to the effect that you believed the perp(s) were in on the search and compromised evidence. Do you still believe that?
It is my understanding that the bevy of suspects both charged so far and as yet un-charged surfaced pretty early- and the Bobo’s were well aware of them. I am not sure that I can articulate, or a reader can appreciate the skerf surrounding Holly’s abduction, torture and murder. Yes, I believe potential suspects or those with knowledge in an attempt to affect the investigation where in the search grids.
Not sure everyone is aware of this- but in this jurisdiction pictures of the murder victim are not permitted in trial (so as not to influence the jury). That’s ridiculous-
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Not sure everyone is aware of this- but in this jurisdiction pictures of the murder victim are not permitted in trial (so as not to influence the jury). That’s ridiculous-
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I agree that this is ridiculous and truly ironic if in fact there is pictures or video of what this dear child went through.
So if someone kidnaps and tortures me, but I survive and he’s caught, I can sit there with my lawyer in court throughout the entire trial for the whole jury to see, but if I happen to die, they don’t get to see even a picture of me? I second that Blink – ridiculous.
Technically if you were a witness in your own case, you would be precluded from attending your trial ( the criminal trial of the perp) outside of your testimony as you would be invoked. The accused has the right to face one’s accusor in a court of law, but the jury is not allowed to draw inferences outside of your testimony and a witness cannot have it’s testimony tempered by anything presented in court. A victim would have the right to be present for a verdict, and in some cases if they are excused from subpoena they may be allowed to be present- UNLESS their are other family members who would be testifying. As an example the Anthony’s had to get a waiver to be in court because they were material witnesses. Lying sacks, but all the same…
In your example, I believe a picture of you in terms of comparison as evidence would be allowed. The rule is specific to murder victims as “stand alone” evidence. It is ridiculous and that rule of evidence is bogus, and in conflict with the “light most favorable to the prosecution” rule, imo.
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Not sure everyone is aware of this- but in this jurisdiction pictures of the murder victim are not permitted in trial (so as not to influence the jury). That’s ridiculous-
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It’s infuriating! Her death photos are directly related to the charges in this case. All of it is evidence. Who the hell concluded this would be prejudicial to defendants?
We all know how the death photos of Caylee Marie influenced THAT jury…notsomuch.
This yet to be trial is setting up to be a gong show. -smh-
Not death images, typically they would be available to at least the jury ( and discoverable) I am referring to an image of Holly alive-
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I believe that a still image of it was sent to the Bobo’s.
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Were the Bobo’s being blackmailed? They’re not the Rockefeller’s. What could possibly be the motive to sending a still image of Holly….other than teasing and taunting them with an image that no doubt added to their anxiety and distress.
That poor girl and her family. Words seem so insufficient
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I honestly do not know the “for what” scenario- it may have something to do with the reasons she was abducted in the first place or perhaps since the reward was so high at the time they thought the Bobo’s had access to it. I had someone approach me who claimed to be working on behalf of the Bobo’s say they wanted to hire me and compensate me with the reward at one point- no idea if that was relevant as I would only ever commit to working for a family by the family directly and I have never and would never take a dime, only pro bono. I personally feel that is a conflict of interest.
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Your comment on jurisdiction and no photos allowed to the jury; is that the county or the State?
The jury needs to know all the facts. Photos reveal more than written or spoken words. Talk about protection for the perps! This is beyond stupid. It is a real big aid to the defense lawyers. It is time to quit bending over backwards to not hurt the perps case or feelings.
More and more we find that the legislators have not served the people very well regarding procedures and rules for LE and the courts. This is not just this state, but most states.
The entire State. With much respect to it’s citizens, from a prosecutorial perspective I find TN incredibly backward in it’s process and incredibly lenient on it’s citizens who break the law. Case in point, while I had a good experience with LE in the Sharpton case- we almost had to beg the DA to finally take her case to the grand jury after refusing to “without a confession”.
Conversely, this prosecutor seems to be aggressive and more than willing to try these suspects in front of a jury but I have no idea how these men were free to harm Holly Bobo in the first place. Does that happen in many jurisdictions? Yes, but it seemed very concentrated to me in my limited work in the state.
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I live in TN and didn’t know that; I was confused about why the justice for holly Facebook page mentioned that they couldn’t show her picture in court. Is it just that county or is it all of TN? Does that extend to photos of a body if it’s recovered?
All of TN. Typically images of a decedent are admissible in a homicide trial to at least the jury.
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In almost every jurisdiction there seem to be a cadre of the criminal element that manages to commit crimes and plead or work their way out of the justice system. It costs a lot of money to keep these people in jail or prison.
Texas had a three strikes (felony convictions) law at one time, but it was overturned by a federal judge. This simply means that people who make their living from crime can have a rap sheet that is multiple pages long and still get out on parole. The public pays the ultimate price in loss of life and property when these felons are not locked up for the rest of their life.
A confession to a crime certainly makes it easy to get a conviction in a court for DA. Some DA’s lack the skills to take on a case that requires a lot of work to prepare and present to the courts.
I understand the goal of their office is to prosecute as expeditiously as possible, and to that end when it turns into an informant situation those calls are made at the LE level before official involvement from prosecutors for the most part.
Believe it or not informants can be substantively helpful in solving crimes- however, it is my personal opinion that many statutes should not be available for plea or CI involvement, ever.
Lastly ATG- a very Happy Father’s Day to you and all Dad’s out there (especially my own, who is the best man I know)
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You said:
“Conversely, this prosecutor seems to be aggressive and more than willing to try these suspects in front of a jury but I have no idea how these men were free to harm Holly Bobo in the first place. Does that happen in many jurisdictions? Yes, but it seemed very concentrated to me in my limited work in the state.
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If the people who took Holly were being “investigated” by Edwards and had a deal with him of sorts…I would imagine that they were out of jail at that time.
Remember the rumor tweeted by that radio dj that Holly being held at a cabin (can’t remember where)…I personally believe that in some way…there was a little truth to it.
I’m from a small southern town- everyone knows or is somehow kin to others. You obviously had crooked LE directly involved with investigating and helping the targets of said stings. If word got out to anyone that they knew where she was…the perps could’ve bolted before TBI had time to get there.
I would be shocked to not find out later on that people were thwarting the search to throw them off track. Or being there, listening and relaying search info to her captives.
Edit 1: If they were working with Edwards…I would imagine that being a reason they weren’t prosecuted and in jail as opposed to kidnapping her.
Edit 2: I’d be shocked to find out people in town were NOT thrashing the search during the first few days
Edit 3: crooked local LE has been rumored since the beginning…and possibility supported by TBI stepping in as well as Edwards shenanigans.
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Not death images, typically they would be available to at least the jury ( and discoverable) I am referring to an image of Holly alive-
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Indeed. That is bass ackwards as it can get! After all, it is about her life and death. If she was ALIVE after being abducted (and kept so, for some time) and there is an image to prove so, that should be considered evidence. I pray it is. Florida and Tennessee must be related, judicially. There is a system, but it’s not justice.
Where in the constitution does it say the deceased/victim shall have limited rights and freedom vs. the defendant? Can’t be prejudicial against the defendant, but by all means….assassinate the character of the victims (ex: Travis Alexander). It’s relative to whether they deserve to be here or not.
I’m as frosted as an icicle @ the north pole.
JMHO
I have a somewhat contrarian viewpoint on the victim photo issue.
The presence of a portrait of the victim could have an improper influence on the jury. For example, in the Travon Martin case, the use in much mainstream media of a 12 year old Travon juxtaposed with George Zimmerman’s mug shot photo had a tremendous influence on many persons’ views of the case.
One of the reasons Casey Anthony walked out of court with a slap on the wrist instead of a needle in the arm was the fact that the jury looked at her daily and felt that she wasn’t the kind of person to do such a horrible crime. If CA had not been physically attractive, she would be sitting in jail right now.
Georgia Dad- I most respectfully disagree with your viewpoint in context. As an example, if a juror is allowed to view the suspect in “a light most favorable to his defense” than so should the voice from the grave, if you will. How can one truly depict the variable from “living” to what ultimately is their corpse- or potentially a no-body case, or a video of her in captivity enduring torture?
While I agree that Casey Anthony’s particular media influence was paramount in her case in terms of societal or cultural interest, I disagree with you that her “looks” played a part in her acquittal. Interest, yes, acquittal, no.
Casey Anthony was acquitted because in the arrogance of the prosecution ( I also say respectfully) they left the jury to decide what happened to Caylee Anthony. Theory can never drive evidence, and in this presentation, it did. Add-in that the prosecution over-estimated their evidence and it’s effect on the CSI-society and you have reasonable doubt across the board, except for lying.
This is my highly oversimplified response.
I am a respecter of the triers of fact, and our system above all others. The concept of high profile changes things, and imo, is a solid argument for professional jurors.
Comparatively, these cases are not even in the same zip code jury pool issues, considering Anthony was also tried in a different county. Which, imo, will also happen in Bobo case- no way it won’t.
Additionally, as it relates to mens rea and actus rea a required component of the crime- how do we know that the fact that she WAS a beautiful blonde as you say, did not in some way provoke manifest criminality? If it did- that should be allowed in- currently, it is not.
I do not mean for my response to be disproportionate- I trust a Judge’s charge after a solid Voir Dire any day.
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A jury looking at Holly’s smiling innocent face day after day would likely be more likely to convict than a jury without the ever-present presence of her photo.
These perps should be convicted based on evidence of their guilt, not a sense of moral outrage about the death of a beautiful blonde.
Beautiful people are no more or less deserving of justice than the unattractive.
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The photo issue has to be balanced. In the Travon Martin-George Zimmerman case, the defense and the media decided to display Travon as he appeared as a 12 year old. The prosecutions job was to show the jury photo evidence of just what he looked like the night he attacked George and to show that he was a lot bigger than George and include his previous behavior as to why he was not in school. They did that and George was judged to be not guilty.
IMO jurors are the triers of fact. However, when facts are left out or twisted by a defense attorney or by a prosecutor, finding the truth is made more difficult. In a murder case, the prosecution and its witnesses become the voice of the deceased. There is no doubt that without a body, only photos of the deceased past can be shown. People are sympathetic to young women who have their life taken by another. That is why the attorneys work very hard to find people to place on the jury that will be sympathetic to their position regarding the case.
Blink… any idea what the public defender’s conflict of interest is?
which?
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The Decatur County public defender’s conflict with representing Mark Pearcy? They had to bring one in from Jackson.
I don’t have first hand knowledge of that but it could be absolutely almost anything- if he defended him previously, any tangenitall associates or persons which would render counsel ineffective or compromised in some way.
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