Hannah Graham Body Located: Sources Say Tip Led To Her Recovery

Posted by BOC Staff | Hannah Elizabeth Graham,Morgan Harrington | Saturday 18 October 2014 5:33 pm

Breaking News:  The body of Hannah Elizabeth Graham has been recovered.

Press Conference involving multiple agencies to be held momentarily.

Thoughts and prayers are with Hannah, her family and friends this evening.

 

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947 Comments

  1. susan says:

    “On behalf of the Carr family…..”

    Trying to pull that seems like a cheap trick, imo. We know how much help “the family” was while the Graham’s were appealing for their daughter’s whereabouts.

    We also heard the “It could not possibly be gentle leroy” from this bunch “because he was just over here eatin my collard greens which he loves” story. Its a little too late, imo, for that cheap trick. This is the same maneuver which created the problem in the first place. Special considerations and years of free passes for terrible behavior while the system looked the other way. No way jose. Camblos can yuk all he wants but it will end up making himself look terrible and this strategy will engender the resentment it so richly deserves from such enablers. People are angry. This is not the time, nor the place.

  2. Mom3.0 says:

    Re Tiny says:
    October 23, 2014 at 9:28 am

    Hi Tiny thak you and all of those who are researching missing and murdered women which could be related

    I dont know if they are but as of right now Ithey might be- i hope lE is looking into all

    Still… all potential earlier victims of LJ may not be missing or murdered they may have lived and never came forward or like the liberty victim they may have backed away from pressing charges-

    we may never know the true number of victims

    Which makes it quite difficult to pinpoint LGs Mo/profile

    is he a serial murder or a serial sexual murderer- or does his profile that of a rapist who has at least two victims who died or were killed- that is were Hannah and Morgan the exceptions did he intend to kill did he escalate

    was the FFaix victim strangled inorder to kill her or was it part of his fantasy and no death was intended?

    Complex and again to discuss it is oversimplifying which can never encapsulate the complete truth especially with so many unknowns about the crimes the victims the perp etc

    AJMO Peace

  3. mosaic says:

    Hi Blink — I’ve been meaning to ask this…you’ve referred several times to JLM being under the radar for 14 years. Fourteen years ago was 2000, the year Matthew graduated from Monticello High School. But the first rape accusation occurred in 2002 at Liberty University. That was 12 years ago.

    I’m not trying to be anal about the math, just wondering if there was another sexually related incident that you are aware of that occurred in 2000, before the Liberty U incident, where JLM slipped through the cracks? Or perhaps, are you saying 14 years because that is the length of his adult life?

    That is an excellent question mosaic- unfortunately I cannot answer it. Matthew had precursor behavior.
    B

  4. Mom3.0 says:

    Re
    Rose says:
    October 23, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    @3.0
    http://blinkoncrime.com/2014/10/18/hannah-graham-body-located-sources-say-tip-led-to-her-recovery/#comments

    you said, and I hope it is a hypothetical
    & not your own impression, wrt Morgan:
    “She was drinking drunk or stoned”

    Do we know this? Concert had just started.
    All could have been concussion

    Rose what I wrote is not how i feel nor is it hypothetical- i was paraphrasing 5 years worth of comments by others

    Morgan was drinking although it is not known if she was drunk or stoned
    her fall may have accounted for any behaviors as drink or drugs could also

    I was illustrating how some have already written her abduction rape and homicide as all her fault

    You wrote:

    you said wrt Hannah, and I hope it is a hypothetical & not your own impression:

    “looking for a party or to party otherwise Why didnt she accept the offer of a walk home- why wasnt Hannah dressed that conservatively- – She was wearing a tight shiny croptop… her pants were tight nearly off the hip – her hair was down- she allowed LG to put his arm around her-”

    Rose- again I was illustrating how some in the public are now putting Hannah on trial for her choices attire behaviors they have begun to shift the blame from the perp to Hannah-

    She is to blame all of it was her doing or she shares in it

    You wrote:
    90% of girls at college today look for a party on Friday nite.
    black tights & shiney tops are The Uniform.
    Who offered a walk home?
    Not her “friends.” All girls with long hair (majority) wear it hanging

    —Yes I believe as you do – but many feel that her attire was “asking for it” or that she should have covered up more as to not provoke a rapist

    She was with a male friend at a party earlier he offered to walk her home she declined-

    Those who wish to push blame on her use this fact against her

    .Rose says:
    October 23, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    @3.0 wrt allowing JM to put his arm around her.
    1) she was impaired & unstable.
    2) pleasant girls are trained to be meek & mild
    with males who hit on them — saving face for
    themselves & the male.

    For example, imo in this age group, a girl confronted by Big Dreadlocks on a public street
    with that action of his, while surprised, might think–I’ll just go along for a wee bit with Biggie,
    then slide away. Not confront.

    Again Rose- I was illustrating how those who wish to blame the victim twist their behaviors attire and choices to paint the victim at fault-

    Although I agree all of what you wrote may be true I feel that even if she did choose to be friendly with LG even if she was looking at him as a potential friend or lover even if she accepted his drink his arm his offer of a ride even if sometime earlier in the night she did engage in kissing or even consensual sex with him that STILL in NO WAY paints her as anything less than a victim if he later abducted raped and murdered her.

    Even if Hannah and Morgan or the FF victim or any victim dont live up to the good girl standards or morals

    They are still the victims and Do not share the blame
    but just like in the court of public opinion there is a risk that the defenses twists will ring true for those determined to see them as less than “good” girls and that might result in the perp getting a lighter sentence because they refuse to believe that these girls were raped and murdered because their attire and behaviors were morally defunct
    AJMO Peace

  5. leslie says:

    wow..he must be real mommas boy…if I thought the police were after my sorry ass for this sh*t….you can bet I wouldn’t go near the police…makes no sense. I didn’t do it mom I swear

    why not just run…if he did what he did he must have known the game was over…he is not that stupid

    and please…put me out of my misery and tell me HOW the police id’d him…I am just baffled and feel I am missing a puzzle piece

  6. Tiny says:

    You know what, Mom 3.0? I don’t know if others do this, I doubt I’m the only one but I read here, and other places, and then form my opinion of what happened based on that.
    I have a deep interest in these cases and it goes back to childhood when there was a killer of children in my area who was never caught. I still have no idea who the monster was, but it stays with you and is fascinating in a terribly way that never leaves you.
    That is an incredible number of years to be operating in a criminal manner(Matthew), and that is an incredible amount (to me) of missing persons for one area. Just as I can not believe we do not know where KH is, I read here to help me understand the craziness that is the human whatever, psyche I guess. I don’t trust the powers that be that tell me what to think. I don’t get that here, and I am grateful.

  7. Mom3.0 says:

    Still catching up- apologies for hogging the board

    Re A Texas Grandfather says:
    October 24, 2014 at 12:00 am

    Mom3.0

    Your reply to tarheelvr about the case in Florida is exactly what a good defense attorney will plant in the minds of a jury to get his client off on something that the victim did that encouraged the perp.

    The more things one can do to negate that stance, the better ones case will be. Behavior and appearance are what people notice about a person……

    Everyone is constantly being sized up in the public by your behavior and appearance. It is human nature to do that.
    ——
    TGF-

    Hello again
    Thanks for sharing yr thoughts

    Yes I agree everyone is constantly being sized up in the public by behavior and appearance. It is human nature to do that.

    —That does not mean that the conclusions they arrive at are true and accurate

    TGF- yes the court case i spoke of allowed the defense to get a rapist off- that rapist then went on to rape another woman using the very excuse given by the defense team as a shield-

    basically no woman dressed like that can be raped she wanted it

    Regardless of the first victims dress or occupation she was not asking to be raped abducted or murdered
    the same as the second victim wasnt

    Yet because of the jurys own prejudices on attire (or lack there of) they chose to believe that the 1st woman was not abducted or raped by knife point thereby freeing the perp to do it again

    TGF again dressing conservatively will not safeguard against rape
    it may help to safeguard us from peoples crass disrespectful vulgar comments but that is all

    Where you write of negating the ammo of perps and defense lawyers as making more “appropriate” attire choices i write of negating the ammo of perps and defense lawyers by not perpetuating the false belief that provocative clothing invites/results in rapes

    Attire should be Irrelevant to assigning guilt

    TGF there will always be those defense lawyers and others who will claim the victim is dressed inappropriately no matter how conservative the attire
    again provocative is subjective

    you wrote;
    The more things one can do to negate that stance, the better ones case will be

    The only thing that would negate the stance in court TGF is a chasity belt and still that chasity belt would not safeguard against becoming a victim of rape

    - http://mashable.com/2013/11/01/ar-wear/

    they have yet to include mens apparal

    This clothing will not safeguard against rape the rapist will just threaten or hurt the victim until they “unlock it” or he will just proceed to violently torture and beat them- force fellatio or kill them as most often it isnt actual sex or penetration that they crave it is violence control and power

    this clothing may not help and may in fact cause more harm even death- but at least it will be known by family friends husbands and boyfriends the public and in court that no matter how provocative short or tight the apparel

    the anti rape gear shouts:

    NO I am not advertizing for sex I am not asking for it and in no way do I want to be raped

    AJMo Peace

  8. Belsma says:

    I just feel the need to address how Hannah was dressed and how some folks have an issue with it. SO WHAT?? Her stomach was showing! Yes, she showed her stomach! For the love of god, stop already! She is not responsible for her demise. A jackass, seemingly serial killer is. I hope he gets dead. I know that’s not a proper statement, but you don’t want my to post what I really feel.

    I think we have sufficiently exhausted this topic in context.
    B

  9. erose says:

    Newport News police have said that they are reexamining two cases of women who went missing around the time Matthew attended Christopher Newport. Sophia Rivera last was seen Sept. 7, 2003, and Autumn Day went missing July 24, 2003.

    http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/former-neighbor-recalls-jesse-matthew-s-early-years/article_23f7717e-5bef-11e4-ab44-001a4bcf6878.html

    Day was last seen at approximately 7:00 p.m. on July 24, 2003, at the Food Lion grocery store in the vicinity of the 10000 block of Warwick Boulevard in Newport News, Virginia. The day after Day’s disappearance, her car was found abandoned in the parking lot of the Food Lion.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/977/46

    Sophie was last seen on September 7, 2003, at her residence in the vicinity of the 800 block of 31st Street in Newport News, Virginia. She has never been heard from again.
    Rivera’s children live with their grandparents; she had always kept in touch with them, but they have not heard from her since her disappearance. She may be in the New York City, New York area.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/975/45

    Not on the list, but young and went missing from a bar.

    Julie Fraser

    Fraser was last seen at a bar in the vicinity of the 2300 block of East Little Creek Road in Norfolk, Virginia, on February 1, 2003. Fraser may be in New York.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/1012/50

    Right ->

    <- Left

  10. erose says:

    Following the Wilke incident, I found the name of the ACA who allegedly asked him to drop charges. His wife is a UVA assistant prof in nursing. Can’t help but wonder if she crossed paths with JM, though I’m he wasn’t in the nursing program maybe there was a certification program he went through to get his hospital job.

    snip>

    Wilke says he recalls getting contacted subsequently by then Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney Claude Worrell and asked if he minded dropping the charges.

    http://wvtf.org/post/charlottesville-journalist-sheds-light-jesse-matthew

    Claude Worrell and Kathryn Laughon

    November 2, 2002

    While domestic violence is a devastating issue that breaks up many marriages, for Charlottesville Deputy Commonwealth’s Attorney Claude Worrell and his wife Kathryn Laughon, a nurse, it was the subject that brought them to gether.

    “I was the domestic violence resource coordinator for the hospital system,” Laughon recalls. “Claude was chair of the Council of Sexual and Domestic Violence.”

    http://www.readthehook.com/83534/still-happy-howd-they-meet-howd-they-marry

    Kathryn Laughon, PhD, RN, has focused her practice and research on issues of intimate partner violence and its impact on women and children. She is assistant professor of nursing at the University of Virginia School of Nursing…

    http://www.nursing.virginia.edu/people/faculty/klc6e/

  11. erose says:

    I can only imagine the would-be drunk young ladies getting into Access Taxis that night.

    More options for would-be drunk drivers
    Tuesday Dec 28th, 2010

    For 21 years, the Chandler Law Group has provided safe rides home over the holidays for imbibing drivers. This year, another personal injury law firm will pick up the tab if you call a cab.

    Allen & Allen has Access Taxi at 434-974-5522 ready to take home revelers within a 20-mile radius of Charlottesville between 9pm December 31 and 3am January 1.

    http://www.readthehook.com/65764/more-options-would-be-drunk-drivers

  12. erose says:

    Another article on Poole, from the Sun-Stentinal. Did we ever figure out why he is not still in prison?

    snip>

    Named by the Justice Department as “kingpin“ of the ring was Trevis Lynch Poole, 25, of Troy, Va. Aside from the conspiracy charge, the grand jury indictment accuses Poole of tax evasion and operating a continuing criminal enterprise, which carries a possible maximum penalty of life imprisonment with no chance of parole.

    In all, Poole distributed 34 pounds of cocaine, prosecutors said. At the national average rate of $100 a gram, 34 pounds would have a street value of about $1.5 million.

    According to the indictment handed down in Charlottesville, Va., the home of the University of Virginia, Poole and some other defendants traveled to Fort Lauderdale to buy cocaine, carrying $300,000 for a purchase on one such trip in March 1985.

    http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1986-07-25/news/8602130599_1_indictment-maximum-penalty-cocaine

  13. erose says:

    I found this on a geneolgy page for the Nuckols Family, Wm. Nuckols is cited as early as 1862 as being in Virginia. Wm. Nuckols (namesake?) was also arrested in the big Poole bust. Also, do we know if Lisa Poole is/was Poole’s wife or is Poole’s sister?

    Richmond Times Dispatch 24 July 1986 (scroll down about 75%)

    snips>

    Among the 24 people charged today, Trevis Lynch Poole, 25, of Fluvanna County, faces 19 counts — the most against any defendant — ranging from distributing small amounts of cocaine to income tax evasion and operating continuing criminal enterprise. He faces a maximum sentence of life in prison and more than $3 million in fines.It was Poole’s house that was raided last July, leading to the investigation.

    Among the 24 people charged today Trevis Lynch Poole, 25, of Fluvanna County, faces 19 counts…William Charles Nuckols, 27, of Charlottesville;…Lisa Michelle Poole, 24, of Charlottesville.

    http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nuck141/news/news6.htm

    Yes, Poole is his sister, current CO resident.
    B

  14. erose says:

    For those of you that like details, this report gives some of the occupations of those individuals arrest along with Poole. Lisa Poole was a tanning salon manager and Wm C Nuckols was working at an electronics firm at the time.

    WHITE HOUSE CONFERENCE ON NARCOTICS

    [beginning on page 35]

    The football players, all members of the University of Virginia team last season, are

    Barry Word, 22, of Long Island, Virginia, a running back;
    Howard Petty, Jr., 22, of Annapolis, Maryland, a running back; and Kenneth Stadlin, 21, of Hampton, Virginia, a place-kicker.

    Besides Poole, defendants charged by indictment were:

    Terry Wade Austin, 27, of Charlottesville, a caterer;
    Howard Lucian Hain, 45, of Fort Lauderdale, an air conditioning
    technician;
    Judith Currin Hain, 28, of Staunton, Virginia, a waitress;
    Jesse Morgan Hicks, 29, of North Garden, Virginia;
    Percy Alvin Houchens, 25, of Charlottesville, an automotive
    service manager;
    Stephanie Kay Irvin, 20, of Richmond, Virginia, a student there at Virginia Commonwealth University (VCU);
    Karen Moe Kaiser, of Palm Bay, Florida, a waitress;
    William Charles Nuckols, 27, of Charlottesville, employee of a~ electronics firm;
    Lisa Miche~le Poole, 24, of Troy, manager of a tanning salon; and
    Paula Renee Taylor, 21, of Vero Beach, Florida, a waitress.

    Defendants charged in one of the criminal informations were

    Javier Richard Cook, 26, of New York City, a commodities broker;
    Stephen Todd Denby, 26, of Charlottesville;
    Robert Dale Garrison, 24, of Charlottesville;
    Vincent Lee Garrison, 25, of Charlottesville.
    James Malcolm Luck, III, 26, of Charlottesville.
    Russell Linwood Miller, 26, of Charlottesville, and
    Dennis Lansing Garrison, 22, of Charlottesville.

    Named in the second information, besides Stadlin, Petty and
    Word, were
    Robert David Dyer, 29, of Charlottesville;
    Col tar Dillard Knight, 22, of Richmond, a student at VCU; and
    Overt Dillard Payne, 38, of Fluvanna County.

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:vivQiyfcST4J:https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/106280NCJRS.pdf+&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

  15. erose says:

    Poole’s sister. Thanks Blink.

  16. susan says:

    Lawdy mercy. And the comments. This does not look good at all.

    We are getting the picture, for sure, with the facts now coming out in this matter.

    Someone’s been pulling the strings, for this individual, in at least the case of road rage we know about. Is this person JM’s “guardian angel” in the system?

    http://www.readthehook.com/109389/claude-worrell-confirmed-juvenile-court-judge

  17. Eloise says:

    RE:

    leslie says:
    October 25, 2014 at 7:13 pm

    ~snip~
    and please…put me out of my misery and tell me HOW the police id’d him…I am just baffled and feel I am missing a puzzle piece.

    Do you mean how did they know his name? Or what specifically?

    You did see this I assume? http://www.nbc29.com/story/26567187/police-release-person-of-interest-description-in-hannah-graham-case

    He was a known figure on the mall, so once the video was obtained I don’t believe it was long before they knew who he was- they may have already known his name- who knows?

  18. Marchmallow says:

    Re: erose says:
    October 26, 2014 at 8:23 am

    What if Jesse Matthew is a confidential informant and he expects to have his charges dropped, reduced, and expects to be provided with legal help. Would the information erose located imply that the Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney Claude Worrell is Matthew’s go to person? Are there indications that he may have been providing information about drug dealers? Was there reluctance to say anything that could implicate one of the taxi driver after Morgan’s disappearance?

    Unfortunately- I have worked more cases than I have cared to where CI’s were involved- and that includes CI’s being killed while preforming their “CI” commitment, or committing crimes (not in their role) and eventually arrested. In no way would any CI be subject to reduction in rape/rape attempted murder/murder charges regardless.

    I have not seen any indication that Matthew is an informant thus far.
    Denise Lunsford is the Commonwealth Attorney for both Harrington and Graham- she will be assigning the prosecutor(s) to the respective cases if the charges are brought in one indictment and not bifurcated.

    The file regarding the assault on Wilke is now part of the investigative file for the current charges so it is not subject to public disclosure for now.

    B

  19. MsLiberty says:

    I haven’t read hewer comments so maybe someone else has pointed out ATG’s mistake about the current academic scandal. It is not Duke. The fake classes involve the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. The only “scandal” of anytime, to my knowledge that has hit Duke, at least since I’ve followed any kind of sports programs, would be the lacrosse rape accusations 6 or so years ago. That proved to be more of a scandal involving the prosecutor and a lying victim than the lacrosse team.

    That’s correct, I am sure ATG will revise- it is the Tarheels.
    B

  20. Eloise says:

    Things are just looking up. You are right Susan, that comments thread was just enlightening.
    Here is some more reading.

    http://ppiedmont.squarespace.com/storage/Spring%20Newsletter%202013.pdf

  21. leslie says:

    Wow..I knew 3 of those people on the Poole case
    ..one long dead…the other the sister of a friend now a Richmond judge…the other from aa…all world

  22. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Thanks MsLiberty for the correction about the school fraud in North Carolina. It is in fact as you state. I am very well aware of the prosecutor that was looking for a chip to insure his re-election regarding the Duke Lacrosse team. The state legal community took care of the situation regarding the prosecutor, but it could not repair the personal damage to those students and coaches that were affected.

    Regardless of my name mistake, I think it is time for the NCAA to begin investigating all the ways a school can cheat to insure that players of major sports meet the minimum grade point requirements.

  23. Dr. Pepper says:

    Snip

    erose says:
    October 26, 2014 at 4:43 am
    Newport News police have said that they are reexamining two cases of women who went missing around the time Matthew attended Christopher Newport. Sophia Rivera last was seen Sept. 7, 2003, and Autumn Day went missing July 24, 2003.

    http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/former-neighbor-recalls-jesse-matthew-s-early-years/article_23f7717e-5bef-11e4-ab44-001a4bcf6878.html

    Day was last seen at approximately 7:00 p.m. on July 24, 2003, at the Food Lion grocery store in the vicinity of the 10000 block of Warwick Boulevard in Newport News, Virginia. The day after Day’s disappearance, her car was found abandoned in the parking lot of the Food Lion.


    Thank you erose for sharing this. The fact that I’ve always thought of the Food Lion & Food Giant as being the same chain of small grocery stores makes that part stand out to me.

    I have a feeling Matthew is connected to several other cases. Only time will tell.

  24. Mom3.0 says:

    Re Tiny says:
    October 25, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    I hear ya Tiny-

    and I think all of what you wrote has merit-

    I think that the # of years between the Known cases already connected to LG opens up the very real possibility that there are more victims unaccounted for during that time span-

    missing
    murdered
    and alive but unknown

    So again I thank you for yr research
    I hope LE continues to examine all cases

    I am glad to know LE seems to be on the ball as shown with eroses latest link in which Newport LEare reviewing the cases of
    Sophia Rivera last seen Sept. 7, 2003, and Autumn Day last seen July 24, 2003.

    LJ could have picked victims based more upon opportunity so to rule out a possible victim who may not share the same attributes/age/race etc would be short sided
    So again I agree with you all cases involving missing murdered women need to be brought to light fr review

    The victims deserve it as do the families waiting for answers- even if it turns out that they arent related they need to be ruled out – as seems to be happening with the Alexis Murphy case and others

    i recently read a heart breaking article featuring Cassandra Morton whose body was found near Camp Hydaway, its owned by Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University.

    Which automatically prompted the question of whether or not her case is related -
    and sadly brought up feelings which devastate her Momma still

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/12/us/virginia-murdered-daughter-familiy/index.html

    My prayers go out to her family as well as to the Grahams the harringtons and to all the families of the missing and murdered as LE work to uncover the complete truth of any and all connections

    Thanks again Tiny
    keep up the good work one and all

    AJMO Peace

  25. leslie says:

    small world….also knew the boyfriend of the girl whose sister is now a judge…all a propos of nothing

  26. leslie says:

    OK….I promise I will not post for awhile…too obsessed with this case….BUT…on this website…conservative treehouse/Hannah graham remains identified…in the comments there is a link to jlms whereabouts…women who went missing nearby…assaults nearby…his weird driving history…for the last THIRTEEN years…some people were sound asleep at the wheel…for real…how this a**hole never even spent a night in jail….driving on suspended….tress passing…over and over…I had to spend a wknd ..no two in jail for one driving while suspended…this dude…over and over and over….notice the multiple sex assaults on uva students…so many….the treehouse site is a harsh buzz if you are liberal as I am…but this link to the comment on websleuths is worth digging for…do not know how to do the link…so..coins greenhouse…tbe ink is in a comment …says…link…it I’d on websleuths….answers all my nagging ??? raises too many more…this guy wanted to get caught?

  27. leslie says:

    on conservative treehouse/Hannah graham remains identified…the poster is georgiafl….the link is at the end of her letter….maybe a more computer adept person could slide it over …it is a mind lower….some think really stinks here

  28. Scout says:

    @leslie

    Most likely they ID’d him very quickly. Most police departments (at lease my husband’s department) send out emails to all the officers everyday showing photos of people they’re looking (BOLO- be on the lookout) people who have warrants etc. or people who they’re looking for for questioning.

    Many times they send still photos from surveillance footage (attempted kidnappings, bank robberies etc). There are a few officers in his dept who are ridiculously good at identifying people from photos. I believe they have photographic memories.

    Also, there are probably officers assigned to that ‘beat’ (Downtown Mall area) who have seen JM down there many times and I guarantee they know who owns “Orange Crush” mobile (love that Blink hah) which I believe they had in surveillance videos. I would imagine it would be hard to forget that car along with the awkward dude with dreads who owns it.

    My husband knows most all the ‘players’ on his beat and many of the cars they drive. Granted JM laid low- but he seems to have many moving violations and has probably been pulled over more times than his tickets and court appearances show. Y’know, he used his gentle giant, teddy bear charm to get him out of tickets.

    In this case, they could have easily probably just had investigators take a photo of the surveillance of JM and asked the bar owners and tenders.

    Blink- Do you know if they recovered any clothing items of HG’s besides her pants? Or if they found JM’s clothing from the night he took HG?

    Yes.
    B

  29. jessejane says:

    So, are Blanca and Popcorn the same dog?

  30. susan says:

    I’m wondering if the current defense strategy is shaping up to be portraying the suspect as a functional but retarded person who simply did not have the IQ to mesh with society, but society failed him somehow. While I do think this was a failure of “some levels of society such as the accommodaters in the courts and colleges, and certainly the family had some indications of serious problems????” especially with all of the enabling which was pandered out, awarding jobs and positions of trust as well as College acceptances, the real victims here are the girls, not jlm. We are all the real victims here, in fact. It could have been anyone’s daughter snatched up and left for dead, while this individual was not looked at twice due to his “roots.”

    If the “jlm as society’s victim” card gets played I will rolfe.

  31. erose says:

    @Susan, from your link in the comments. I had no idea this was out there.

    Anatomy of a Rape Case at the University of Virginia

    This is being passed around by students at U.Va, and I thought it was worth sharing. Somehow, I’m not surprised that rape culture thrives at Mr. Jefferson’s University

    snips>

    One of my professors contacted the Dean of Students office. I went there with my parents and was encouraged not to officially report the rape, but rather to go through mediation with the rapist. I refused. The sole idea of his sight and of his voice sickened me. Dean E. further added that no one had been expelled for rape in over ten years. How could this be possible, when the statistics are that 1 in 4 women are sexually assaulted in college?

    My parents appealed the outcome of the hearing but, despite documentary evidence that the forensic nurse had changed her findings from her initial report that I had physical damage to nothing had happened to me in her lay report to the Panel, the decision was upheld. I later found out that this same nurse is the Chair of the Sexual Misconduct Advisory Committee and she is also the wife of the Deputy Commonwealth Attorney. Furthermore a second medical examination confirmed the damage was more than the nurse’s initial report.

    http://jamellebouie.tumblr.com/post/35357861500/anatomy-of-a-rape-case-at-the-university-of-virginia

  32. erose says:

    So if you get raped, she’s one of the nurses who might do your rape kit, and then she is sitting on the advisory committee when you present your case.

    Kathryn S. Laughon

    Associate Professor of Nursing, School of Nursing
    Chair, Sexual Misconduct Advisory Committee
    University of Virginia

    http://www.virginia.edu/sexualmisconductdialogue/speakers.html

    UVA Under Investigation for Handling of Sexual Misconduct Case

    The federal complaint says University of Virginia Medical Center staff lost photographs taken by the sexual assault nurse examiner and there were inconsistencies in the descriptions of the victim’s injuries.

    http://www.nbc29.com/story/25753826/uva-under-investigation-for-handling-of-sexual-misconduct-case

    Yes erose- hth that is not a conflict as I have been saying- UVA has no standing ( outside of it’s matriculation I guess) to investigate a felony criminal offense in lieu of a proper criminal investigation, imo. Most specifically, and ESPECIALLY when they are currently under investigation for mishandling them in the first place?

    B

  33. erose says:

    same link, should have provided this snip>

    The complaint shows that on December 8, Charlottesville police took her to the UVA Medical Center, where she underwent an exam by Kathryn Laughon, a sexual assault nurse examiner.

    http://www.nbc29.com/story/25753826/uva-under-investigation-for-handling-of-sexual-misconduct-case

  34. H.D. says:

    Blink: thanks for your patience to an infrequent poster here.

    erose: I did a double take when I read your post about the wife of Claude Worrell.

    Kathryn Laughron has been under scrutiny in the past for allegedly changing a rape victim’s medical record “to falsely reflect that the victim suffered no injuries after being drugged and raped by a repeat offender”. I am completely shocked to read she is a professor at UVA.

    http://uvasexualassaultcoalition.wordpress.com/tag/kathryn-laughon/

    It gives me chills to think she is married to a former Assistant Commonwealth’s attorney. Something seems really rotten here.

  35. H.D. says:

    I wanted to share a little more information I found about Kathryn Laughron. In the case mentioned above (student drugged and raped by a repeat offender), a federal complaint was filed stating “The federal complaint says University of Virginia Medical Center staff lost photographs taken by the sexual assault nurse examiner and there were inconsistencies in the descriptions of the victim’s injuries.”
    http://www.nbc29.com/story/25753826/uva-under-investigation-for-handling-of-sexual-misconduct-case

    The nurse involved is Kathryn Laughron. Really unacceptable. How is this allowed to continue?

  36. leslie says:

    breaking my oath….on the list….jlm had appeared(or failed to appear)…at leat 50x….for traffic violations….the cab driver.. he had 10 other issues with uva that I guess must involve medical debt..there are 16 crimes that occurred involving students on or near grounds….like the 3 that happened the wknd Hannah vanished….and for the last 14yrs….within easy access….from Lynchburg to chville to Fairfax area to Richmond to via beach area…over 44 women have vanished or their unidentifiable remains have been found…..not even counting the ones we know of…stunned….seems like he practised on women who would be hard to trace…then developed his skills…probably never really know …

    leslie- link in support please.
    B

  37. tarheellvr says:

    Thanks for your comments Mom 3.0……….A sensitive subject with me as I lived through a similar situation myself.

    Your words were so very important and so very appreciated.

    Thanks…….

  38. Indahlia says:

    This article includes some positive quotes from two of Morgan Harrington’s friends. There are also a couple of interesting quotes from her parents.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/morgan-harrington-family-prays-justice-slain-virginia-tech-student/story?id=9701648&page=2

  39. erose says:

    Because of the sensitive nature, I did not want to post the contents of Document 1 beginning on page 32 which legally describe what Kathryn Laughon did or did not do for the UVA rate victim in what is now a federal case known as Jane Doe V DOE. This is the wife of the prosecutor that allegedly convinced Wilke to drop charges against Matthew. I am just blown away that this cast of characters are on the national stage in two ongoing situations.

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rZytQ68eBXkJ:www.childlaw.us/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Jane-Doe-v.-Arne-Duncan.pdf+&cd=23&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

  40. erose says:

    I know Longo has deserved hero status, but in this federal case the plaintiff is alleging a conflict of interest.

    OTHER CONCERNS ABOUT CONFLICTS OF INTEREST

    In addition to Nurse Laughon being employed by UVA, it is significant and troubling that Laughon’s husband, Claude Worrell, is the Deputy Commonwealth Attorney in Charlottesville. The Commonwealth Attorney, Dave Chapman is an alumnus of UVA and UVA Law School. Many of these individuals are and/or have been affiliated with UVA not only as Alumni but also as paid lecturers at the Law School. Even the Chief of
    Police for Charlottesville, Timothy Longo, has an apparent conflict of interest given that his wife and daughter are employed by UVA Health Systems. Chief Longo himself has lectured at the Law School and at the Darden Business School.
    [page 40]

    MORE INEQUITIES IN THE PROCESS

    2. UVA officials interviewed the victim on January 23, 2012 and three weeks later interviewed M on February 14, 2012. UVA told the victim that there was an ongoing criminal investigation by the CPD and that
    M’s attorney did not want him to be interviewed while there was an investigation going on. Yet the CPD report shows that a decision by the Commonwealth Attorney not to prosecute had already been made as early December 14, 2011.

    [page 56]

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rZytQ68eBXkJ:www.childlaw.us/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Jane-Doe-v.-Arne-Duncan.pdf+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

  41. susan says:

    Since the Carr-Matthew family has come out now with public comments that they are “praying” for the victims, the public should be entitled to now comment on “this family.”

    Are these people totally disengaged with reality?

    What footing do they have to pretext concern, since they evidently did not use the influence at their disposal to get to the bottom of Hannah’s whereabouts, nor did they do anything but lie, deny, obstruct, mislead, cover up, and try to sidestep the facts, when they had the opportunity to comment over the past weeks. Further than that they have gobbled up system favors and free passes for the benefit of JLM’s hideous antics since at least 2000, while refusing to control or bring to the system’s attention this dangerous lunatic, roaming the streets on his wanton and murderous rampages.

    Answers are needed. But if “the family” feels that it is entitled to some level of public respect and support from the platform they are now insisting on taking, they had better get used to a heavy dose of public scorn and ridicule. Same for their hapless attorney as he pushes this ridiculous PR agenda. IMHO.

    susan- those are some pretty heavily-handed accusations without any evidence in support. As I recall, there was some sort of tape and letter found in JLM’s vehicle- how do we know that his family was not attempting to get him to turn himself in?

    That said, I can state with certainty that the minute Camblos was retained he advised the family not to speak to anyone whatsoever about the case- that is protocol.

    Do I think ultimately we will be very un-surprised at this family’s level of knowledge or suspicion? Yes, I do- this kind of criminal does not operate in a vacuum.

    I would just ask that we engage that discussion when we really have something to discuss that is verified.

    B

  42. Susanm says:

    Thanks for the link to the YouTube video of Hannah”s friend.seems like a cerebral group of friends. I remember now , that a childhood friend of Morgans (well after all the hoopla) made a similar video.very sweet to honor their friends with a spoken word video.i wonder what was Hannah’s major . Morgan’s was going to be a teacher. I think they both marched to the beat of their own drum .hannah was a musician ,Morgan loved music.. I think Hannah was painfully aware of her situation,(lost drunk,on the street in her disco clothes ,separated from the disco).that’s why she was running with purpose. But when your at college ,wasted ,after midnight,stumbling around is exactly when someone will see the oppurtunity to take advantage,I am glad the public grew up ,from Morgans case and didn’t blame the victim. Is that the national geographic on the bookshelf behind Hannah’s friend in the video. My dad has maintained my subscription since I moved out. Atexasgrandfather-readers digest fan here too. here’s a link to the 2007 NG story on Jamestown, if anyone is interested . A year after this issue caught my interest ,my cousin ,(historian ,Columbia univ. ) Presented a family reunion with a manuscript on our family history ,Jamestown rooted .a year later Morgan went missing ,I was already on the va history train.

  43. susan says:

    Blink–

    with all respect, and I truly mean that, the denials from this family are in the record. Matthew sr, “he’s as gentle as they come.” Grandma, “he’s just been over here eating my collard greens”", “LJ would never hurt anybody. I’m sure he had nothing to do with it.”

    From the point of public safety, for all of our kids, we need to understand how this was allowed to go on for so long. Respectfully, I think the above comments are some of the reason. There may have been a denial of reality?

    I think we’ve got to listen to what this family has said, while the Graham’s were pleading on the public airwaves. While I do expect that Atty Camblos has told family not to say anything, the Graham’s pleadings on the air might have been an appeal to the “family” for help. Truly, Hannah could have been alive somewhere and in danger.

    I don’t disagree with you susan- but those comments are not proof that they obstructed, lied, aided and abbetted a known violent offender for the last several years and had knowledge of his crimes as you alleged. Those comments are what I would expect to hear- additionally his Grandmother pointedly said to the media she recognized her grandson on the video immediately. That did not sound anything like a denial to me and she offered that openly and on the record.

    As far as how Matthew got away from detection, and in many cases eluded prosecution for various offenses over several years being a critically important piece of information to the public- I am staunchly on the record on that.

    There is simply not enough of “what the family has said” to determine anything at this point- thus why I am critical of hurling accusations. As an example- what possible reason would they have to speak if folks already made up their minds in a rush to judgement?
    B

    I

  44. mosaic says:

    Not sure if this link will work but if it does…you’ll see the proximity of Christopher Newport University with the location Autumn Day went missing in July 2003.

    As you can see, it’s just 5 minutes down the road.

    http://www.mapquest.com/#fb4bec64294e8509babdf5a2

    Was Matthew enrolled in summer session that year?

  45. mosaic says:

    OK, my mapquest link doesn’t work. Darn.

    CNU is located at 1 Avenue of the Arts, Newport News, VA. Autumn Day went missing from the 10000 block of Warwick Blvd, Newport News. If you plug those addresses into map quest, you’ll see the proximity.

  46. erose says:

    Blink, I understood what you have been saying in general terms, but did not pick up on the specifics until now. That conflict of interest cuts both way. What would an innocent accused perp think of Laughon’s two fold participation in a rape case.

    erose says:
    October 26, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    Yes erose- hth that is not a conflict as I have been saying- UVA has no standing ( outside of it’s matriculation I guess) to investigate a felony criminal offense in lieu of a proper criminal investigation, imo. Most specifically, and ESPECIALLY when they are currently under investigation for mishandling them in the first place?

    B

  47. Rose says:

    well, erose. reading your posts of plaintiff about UVA administratively and systemically
    reminded me of Happy Valley, or say the NoVA Potomac Sch,
    when parents lived by the “everything’s fine” mantra, knowing the opposite, or looked the other way,
    so their kids got the best inputs (teachers, opportunities) or they got Board positions,
    in the face of abuses both physical & emotional by some teachers & admjnistrators, as well
    as some who were exceptionally incompetent but connected, and so on.
    When I asked a leadership senior parent why an earlier Head, who made many
    poor decisions and was well known internally to be “failed” in his early years, she replied, “These are
    people who built their identities on professional & personal success; they cannot publically
    admit they made a hiring error. I see a couple of my era, the loveliest of families and persons
    and very ethical, are on the UVA Parents Committee. This parents organization
    therefore is a fundraising group, not a UVA Admin change agent wrt University rape reporting.
    And says “everything’s fine” in Happy Valley has previously been the UVA cultural MO. While one
    looks for Presidential leadership to come, an administrative & parental cosmetic covering culture woukd be hard
    for any Pres to take on. Btw Richmond, McAuliffes had a long tenure at Potomac, and it was Happy
    Valley then. (not up to date now, just know being dependent on such an administratively dysfunctional
    insular culture in a school setting is hard for victims.

  48. starbucks says:

    In case anyone is interested, Matthew’s arraignment in the Fairfax case, before Chief Judge Dennis Smith, is scheduled for Friday October 31, 2014 at 9:00 A.M. The Court will likely appoint an attorney (probably Camblos) at that time.

    From a recent article:

    On Oct. 21, Camblos told WTOP he would not represent Matthew in Fairfax County, where his client was indicted for three felonies – attempted capital murder, abduction with intent to defile, and object penetration – for a 2005 sexual attack of a 26-year-old woman in Fairfax City.

    Yet, two days later, Fairfax County prosecutor Ray Morrogh, while seeking a bench warrant, told the judge Camblos had contacted him, saying Camblos would ask the court to appoint him to represent Matthew in Fairfax County.

    Camblos says he had a change of heart.

    “I’ve known several members of the family for a number of years,” says Camblos. “That’s why they called me, because they have faith in me.”

    With his client the chief suspect in the unsolved murders of Graham and Harrington, Camblos says he wants continuity in his client’s defense.

    “I feel on behalf of Mr. Matthew and the family I should stay with it,” says Camblos. “He shouldn’t be bounced around from one attorney to another.”

    Asked whether he’d asked to be court-appointed to represent Matthew if he’s eventually charged with the Graham or Harrington murders, Camblos says “It’s a wait and see kind of thing – we have to wait and see.”

    http://www.wtop.com/?nid=893&sid=3729621

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