SANDRA CANTU CASE: SOURCES- LAWLESS RELATIVE ARRESTED ON SEX CHARGES
BREAKING NEWS
Folsom, CA– As Melissa Huckaby awaits her arraignment in court this afternoon in San Joaquin County, Blinkoncrime.com has discovered the arrest last week of Timothy John Lawless, a relative to Huckaby and the Lawless family. Folsom Police Department verified this afternoon Lawless was arrested on April 15.
Timothy Lawless was arrested on THE EXACT SAME SEX CHARGE AS Huckaby. Lawless is in custody at the Sacramento County Jail under a $1Million Bond, charged with 10 counts of lewd and lacivious acts on a child under 14.
288. (a) Any person who willfully and lewdly commits any lewd or
lascivious act, including any of the acts constituting other crimes
provided for in Part 1, upon or with the body, or any part or member
thereof, of a child who is under the age of 14 years, with the intent
of arousing, appealing to, or gratifying the lust, passions, or
sexual desires of that person or the child, is guilty of a felony and
shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for three,
six, or eight years.
Lawless is also charged with rape with a foreign instrument, but formal charges have not been formalized by the DA. Lawless’s next appearance in court is scheduled for May 14, 2009.
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Btw, I get a charge out of the novice crimefighter housewives over at Websleuths. They go on and on and on about “poor Sandra” but it’s very clear that they LOVE talking about the gory details.
I dont read there, that is really sad though.
B
“I dont read there, that is really sad though.”
You aren’t missing much.
“Oh, that’s so terrible! Poor little Sandra. Imagine what happened to her in that crawl space…and with a foreign object! How gruesome. Imagine what she went through! I wonder what MH used on her. Btw, this cookie recipe you gave me is wonderful. I did cut the sugar in half though. Too sweet for my taste.”
In other words…there isn’t any sleuthing going on over there at all. It’s just a bunch of bored people (I have a feeling that they’re mainly women. I just can’t see a bunch of guys doing that. (I’m a woman, btw)) blabbering on about this or that crime related news story.
“Pastor Lawless has many decades of ministerial service according to his personal history on the clover church website.This would arm him so to speak ,to be of support for MH and family”
Of course.
He isn’t acting frail imo…he’s acting suspicious. Those smug little grins that he flashes are very strange indeed for someone in his position. Then there’s that oops-I-forgot-my-fake-nose-and-wig look he always seems to have. You know how rats run alongside walls with their heads down? That’s Lane Lawless.
No doubt… poster me….red flags galore surround the Lawless family and their choice of employees of the church.MH’s choice to date Mr.Sinclair.
Isn’t he married or I am mistaken on the dating relationship between the two ,MH and Sinclair.Many many questionable people around this group.I suppose we shall see at trial time.
Tim Lawless was arrested on the charges listed, HOWEVER, it was NOT related to the Sandra Cantu case. The fact that his last name is Lawless is a simple coincidence. He is not related to the Lawless family tied to the Cantu case and was not involved in the Cantu case in any way. You may have noticed that this has not been in the news. If it was related, you would have seen it on Nancy Grace or some other news show. I am a personal friend of Tim and know the details of the charges and who was involved and it was not Sandra Cantu.
a) I do not allow comments from “anonymous” its cheesy, fyi.
b) I never said Mr. Lawless CRIMES were related to the Sandra Cantu case, as a matter of fact I am on record I see no evidence tying the two crimes together at this point.
c) It is not “in the news” because there is a broad gag order on the Cantu case.
d) I also know who the victim is, and the charges, and if you know him as you say you do than it is obvious why I did not report it.
e) What do you know about his work on antichildporn.org?
Blink,
Could you assist me with the term “Gag Order”? Does that mean that
the press are not able to report or follow up on the case in any way? LE stated that Melissa acted alone. As far as I know there has not been a official ruling making Pastor Lawless a person of interest. Not knowing the exact definition of “Gag Order” it kind of surprises me that the some of the press aren’t camp outside this guys house 24/7. There appears to be very little coming from the media these days.
The gag order is very broad, I have seen few like it and I am surprised there have been no motions to clarify it. However, i think the concern, and I agree with it, is that there may be knowledge of some sealed items that could surface as a result- and I would be vehemently opposed if that were the case. Lastly, I think the FBI is leading the external investigations that are peripheral and they will talk to NO ONE. I can say the FBI does not traump through 4 states in state charges where the TPD says she acted alone.
B
Mr.Anon,
Must be a shock and at the very least horrifying to be a personal friend of an individual charged with deplorable and heinous crimes against children.The very worst of the worst.
Being that you are a personal friend his, it would be unusual if you where privy to the extent of LE and or FBI investigation.I am just guessing you know what your friend TOLD you whats up with his legal troubles.Unless you are within the LE community handling this case.If your LE with a pedophile as a personal friend.I wouldn’t want to be in your shoes.
Related to MH or not and the destruction of precious Sandra Cantu.Unless this is some gross miscarriage of justice against Mr.Tim Lawless…Might I suggest you find a descent…personal friend to associate with.
Oh and since you are so chummy with Mr.Timothy Lawless …should he be found guilty of child crimes ….tell him I said
“MAY HE ROT”
Have a Great Mothers Day to Mothers everywhere!!RG
Sorry for bad spelling and grammatical errors on 506 post.Feelings conveyed on 506 remain as they are.
PLEASE tell me this cockroach TL wasn’t involved with an org. fighting child porn!How utterly pathetic.
The prayer and supplication that must surround MH and all involved is astounding. I noted DD mentioned curiosity about Connie’s family line at Scared Monkeys and followed up. I’m posting a bit here as I await Admin. Approval at SM. What an auspicious heritage of ministry on grandma’s side! Gpa’s pastorship is just the tip of a missionary ancestry. Gpa’s apparent estrangement and Connie’s seeming denial now make perfect sense to me; the horror of all this is magnified beyond belief in the context of this family’s dedication to promoting the doctrine of God’s will for how we are live our lives.
Here is a bit of Gma Connie’s family line:
Name: Constance Lorene Harris
Birth Date: 6 Aug 1941
Mother’s Maiden Name: Cooper
Birth County: Monterey
Daughter of A.A. Harris
Name: Arthur Alanzo Harris
Social Security #: 54XXXXXXXXX
Birth Date: 19 Jun 1914
Birthplace: Curtis, Arkansas
Death Date: 16 Nov 1989
Death Place: Salinas, Monterey, CA
His father: William Earl Harris
His Mother: Minnie Lucille Sloan
Spouse: Irene Cooper (Born: 1921)
Daughter of Irene Harris nee Cooper
Name: Irene Cooper
Birth: 7 Aug 1921 in Wynona, Oklahoma, USA
Her Father: John Bailey (Willis) Cooper born 30 Nov 1880 in Jasper,Newton, AR, and died 1956 in , , California. He was the son of 2. Henary Thomas COOPER (2/12/1850) and 3. Sarah Jane CURRY (2/12/149 Tenn.)
Her Mother: Effie Joetta Smithson (married 6/23/1901 in Webbers Falls, Haskell,Ok.)
Spouse: Arthur Alonzo Harris (Born: 1914)
Connie’s maternal Gpa was “Elder John Cooper (who)…came from a long line of Missionary Baptists. His father and grandfather before him were Missionary Baptist Ministers and he was reared in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.” They are bio’d (along with uncles, cousins) in the following link, with ministry all over SW Indian Territory: Twentieth Century California Pastors
http://jrhenness4.home.comcast.net/~jrhenness4/calhac/book/pastors/pastors_03.htm
Her uncle (Irene’s bro-in-law) is Harless, with 3 generations of pastors, found at same website.
Connie’s paternal connection through A.A. Harris (“Art was saved May 10, 1938 in a bean field out side Salinas. “) is at http://jrhenness4.home.comcast.net/~jrhenness4/calhac/book/pastors/pastors_06.htm
I have been suspicious of the church in Tracy. I was ignorant of that denomination’s practice and operation –very foreign to my liturgical faith. I now believe this is no fly-by-night, storefront decoy operation. Could there still have been those who used it for their own evil doings? Of course! I’m a trained journalist, nothing surprises me. But I now do not believe that “the church” as an organization is involved in any enterprise that lead to precious Sandra’s torment. and that the evil, loathsome deed/s was the work of individuals “gone rogue.” Just my opinion.
e) What do you know about his work on antichildporn.org?
Okay, I just fell off my chair.
Brenda, in this case I have found it advantageous to actually sit on the floor for that very reason.
B
Give me a break B.
The only reason Tim Lawless is on this site is because of his last name. And to say you are on record for saying he’s not related to the Cantu case What about post #58, #79, #81, #82 just to name a few!!!!….And WHY is his name under the Sandra Cantu category???
Further more radiogirl…you are no jugde nor jury nor are you god…you have no idea anything about his case or the lives of the people involved. Don’t JUDGE!!! Although no one would or will condone his behavior, I AM A PERSONAL FRIEND OF TIM LAWLESS, and thinks that he should sit a reflect on his choices in prison with other criminals! Get off you’re holier than thou horse!
Comment regarding 501….
Sandra’s murder is not a topic of conversation to entertain those with nothing better to do. It is a murder of a little 8 year old girl who skipped into many of our hearts. She is a little girl an entire town searched for, prayed for and wanted nothing more then to deliver her to her mother. This was not to be her fate, unfortunately. I past the Moseleum everyday, it sickens me beyond belief she is there, I pray for her, her family and my town.
Today is Mothers Day, there is a woman on the other side of town from me who probably doesn’t want to get out of bed today and wants nothing more then it to be May 11th. Her daughter, her baby girl is no longer with her. So those other people on the other site who wish to continue to speak of Sandra as though she is nothing more then a topic of some murder novel, she was not and many people morn for this little girl.
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Happy mothers day to all of the moms out there. I hope you take a few moments today and realize just how lucky we are to have our children with us today. Give them a great big hug. (I think if I hug my kids one more time they will start hiding, lol.) Enjoy your day!
Blink,
Since the news on this case has been virtually non-existant here on the East Coast the last few weeks, can you give us an update on what the local buzz may be in the Tracy and surrounding areas? Has MH recieved any visitors that you know of and where is Grandpa Lawless? I’d be surprised if he weren’t being closely watched/followed by LE/FBI.
Great work on the Monkeys forum!
I believe this the link for the TL connection to antichildporn.org.
http://www.antichildporn.org/bio/bio10.htm
The bio says he does preventative security measures, such as automated identification of trust relationships, and intrusion resilient systems for the antichildporn website.
I didn’t realize that he had a connection to University of Southern Mississippi – is this the right TL?
Let me put it to you this way, the University of Southern Mississippi has never heard of him. One of our savvy readers sent me that info.
B
Blink-
Thanks for the clarification. I agree with your comment regarding the FBI’s multi-state investigation. I honestly don’t know how I feel about the whole thing. On one hand if there is more to the story and they can put an end to this morbid chain of abuse then I hope they uncover every rock. On the other hand if there is more sickness to be revealed then I fear what is yet to come.
What I do know for sure is if it comes to be that Pastor Lawless is
the ring leader of some horrific child abuse cult. I hope they send
him to to a prison full of fellow sex offenders and put a big “pick me I’m available” sign on his back
1. Anonymous is not cheesy, it is my right to remain anonymous to protect myself and yes, your right to remove my comments if you so wish to. I included an actual email address on the registration so for your needs you can confirm who I am. Delilah is not my real name either but I’m trying to respect your wishes.
Fair, I dont expect you to post your 411, but posting as “anonymous” on credible sites is considered cheesy, so thank you.
2. I never said “you” related Tim to the Cantu case. I was making a clarification for all the other readers who have made the assumption based on Tim’s last name (which is not an alias). I am going to go 50% on that. Tim went by the name Gomes in other endeavors, so he is familiar with different name usage at a minimum.
3. Regardless of the gag order, Tim would not be in the news related to the Cantu case anyway because there is no connection. (Just another clarification.) That is supposition, and I obviously disagree, or I would not have posted the piece.
4. I am a very close friend of his and have known him for over 15 years and yes, I know who the charges involve and do understand why you haven’t printed it, as I won’t either. Another mutual friend of ours actually visited him yesterday and he was stunned to know that he was connected to the Cantu case (at least connected via this site as well as several other sites). Clearly he is in jail for a reason but again, for the readers of this site, it is NOT connected to Sandra Cantu. We agree there is no evidence to connect Tim Lawless to the rape and murder of Sandra Cantu. This has been stated several times here.
5. I know nothing of his work on antichildporn.org but would be interested in knowing if you would like to send to me. Out of my hands at this point, and will not be commenting further.
I did not intend to discredit your site at all, I was simply trying to provide a clear message that Timothy J. Lawless (Gomes) is not in any way tied to the Sandra Cantu case. Understood.
Lastly- I am in receipt of numerous emails claiming to be friends and family and that they are SHOCKED. I get that. However, several are detailed about those little “nuances..” 10 counts of molestation and rape with a foreign instrument on a 9 year old? Maybe it’s me, but Im not scratching my head saying hat happened.. Im saying wth did he have access to at my job or home.. Is it me?
B
“Sandra’s murder is not a topic of conversation to entertain those with nothing better to do.”
Yes, I know. However, it does appear to be just that for the people on websleuths.
How else do you explain the fact that they have a list of banned sites to which posters may not link?
Or…the fact that they make it so difficult to become a poster? For example, you can’t use a gmail account.
They squelched right away any discussion of Lane Lawless and have convicted Melissa Huckaby without a trial. No need to look elsewhere.
All three of those things make it harder to get to the truth.
So, they are basically a bunch of bored housewives who just like talking about crime. There isn’t anything wrong with that imho. However, I’m very turned off by their holier-than-thou statements about how much they “care” about the victims.
Thanks for the opportunity to leave my posts. The truth is that you can see by some of the other comments that just by being a (previous) friend of his I’m already being tagged as something other than what I really am. It’s fine, clearly people tend to run with a thought without having the facts so no worries. It is true that I am completely disgusted in what he did do, which I will not relay on this site in order to protect the victim involved. I do not consider him my friend at this point. I have absolutely no tolerance for an adult who engages in activities such as these with an underage child. So to you Radiogirl, I will not be relaying your message, although I think he understands that is how the general population feels. Also, it is Ms. Anon, thank you for the Mother’s Day wishes.
I would like to say that there was absolutely no thought in my mind before this time that Tim would ever do something like this. I did consider him my friend, he was a very smart, sweet, funny man. It is a lesson to me and should be to anyone reading this that you really do not know what people are capable of, no matter how long you’ve known them. You could be in my shoes in the near future, I pray you are not but this is not something I ever thought I would have to process either.
As for his last names, Gomes was his step-father’s name of which his mother gave him. After they divorced, Tim changed it to his mother’s maiden name of Lawless. So, no, not an alias and at this point probably one of his worst decisions considering that has linked him to Sandra Cantu. Everyone on this site can continue to argue whether or not he is connected but eventually it will come out to show he is not. And I am just a little confused because you said you knew the victim too right….so wouldn’t that mean that you do know the charges are not connected to Sandra Cantu??? And you also said you do not link him to Sandra Cantu but then in my last post after stating in #3 that there’s no connection your response was: That is supposition, and I obviously disagree, or I would not have posted the piece. Can you see where it’s confusing to really know where you stand on what you think about his connection?
Just to be clear, I am in no way defending him or his actions. I’m just trying to set the record straight so there aren’t so many assumptions going around. He will pay for what he did, he is not denying what he is responsible for. He has lost me as a friend and I’m sure many more. That is a consequence he knows he will have to face.
As a “Friend” stated above, we are not his judge or jury. No one here, even myself, know all the facts. Not everything is black and white……a horribly bad decision does not equate to a murderous pedophile. His name should no longer be associated with Sandra Cantu. Blink – if you know the victim, shouldn’t you correct this site?
For the last time, I do not “know” the victim, I know who the victim is. The victim’s age was in the police filing. If it was wrong there, I can’t help that, but there are 10 charges of lewd & lacivious for a child under the age of 14, and he is being held on a $1Million bond, a child is a child. Some parts of your post are good advice, the other is diluting your message, fyi. Nobody is calling him murderous, but, pedophile definately. Sorry, not to start the villagers up the mountain, but a bad decision is cheating on your taxes, not molesting a child 10 times- that’s effing sick and he should spend the rest of his life locked up, imo.
Anonyous/Delilah,
In your first comment you state “I am a close personal friend of Tim”
Then you state that you are a previous friend of Tim???
Secondly, you say “He will pay for what he did, he is not denying what he is responsible for”, but you immediately follow that by stating that “we are not a judge and jury”. Sounds to me that it is you who have already found him guilty or you know that he has already confessed to his crimes.
Thirdly, it appears that you have befriended him again; As a “Friend” stated above (quote).
Lastly, “I am in no way defending him or his actions”
Sorry, but you have me totally confused, it sure sounds like someone defending a friend or a previous friend ???
Don’t bother asking sweetpea, it’s a troll. Im done giving the trolls of Tim Lawless anymore thread time- I just checked Lawless visitations, there were Z E R O so they are FOS anyway.
Nobody who had truly dumped this guy as a friend would care enough to come over here and write a lengthy post in order to set the record straight.
There were not ZERO visitors…..Ou’re a piece work, BLINK!
And your a pedo sympathizer and liar to boot:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub6_022109/TimLawlessZeroVisitor051109.jpg
Thanks Blink and fine posters…
My post which stirred up anon stands as is.I wrote if he should be found guilty of crimes against children(507)there you have it.
That Mr.Lawless may sit in a cell and consider his actions concerns me not one bit.Only that he is in a cell should he be found guilty do I care.So he can not harm another child.
I’m concerned with the young child and the family that will have to consider and live with the DAMAGE done by Mr. Lawless’ actions against their child, SHOULD HE BE FOUND GUILTY, for the rest of THEIR lives.
No judge or Jury from this poster…Just a parent who is sick to death of these creeps preying on children..And SHOULD HE BE FOUND GUILTY …May he rot
Blink,
I most certainly am not sympathizing with the pedophile. He should be in prison for what he has done and he WILL. I am not a liar about his visitors. After reading your website and the possible connection you are have been making to the Cantu case I found out what in was really arrested for. Which has nothing to do with the Cantu case.
It is aweful, and sickning to think of a friend molesting a child of any age…It is very hard to explain to your kids what he’s been arrested for and how it is that we are frineds with him. I can’t honestly say that the friendship will waiting for him at the end of his sentence but once the shock wears off, it is doubtful.
Tim will be in prison and hopefully he will come to an understand of the kind of person he has become.
On another note…to ban me from scaredmonkeys.com from telling the truth is absord! Hopefully you’re readers will some of their own investigating to find out the truth rather then go off you’re postings.
OK, seriously, I’m done with your drivel. You have already taken up countless minutes my readers and I cannot get back. You have contradicted yourself a gazillion times and trolled on scaredmonkeys with a single post that was utter bs, lacked any facts and was solely designed to disrupt the conversation. That is why you were banned, and not by me, that is not my house you yutz.
Lastly, I would be remiss if I did not shudder at your words of having difficulty explaining the situation to your children. It is not difficult at all. It is a prime opportunity to explain to them that Child Molesters do not look like Darth Vader or Nosferatu. They look like everyone. Meaning, define the scope of what’s acceptable for your children to be around, who’s homes, etc, the outlet for your kids to immediately escape a situation they feel uncomfortable in based on same, and to tell you immediately where you will protect them at all costs and deal with the situation as a Mother should. Based on your comments, I have a feeling your about to learn more about this character you did not know. You know what Im not seeing at ALL from you- outrage for his victim.
B
Friend
Seems to me that you are his “girl friend”. Open your eyes and protect your children from your monster “friend”. Never see him again, period, and let your children know whose side you are on.
Friend,
I have never been in your situation, I am sure it would be hard, if in fact you are a friend of Tim Lawless. If I found out my friend/boyfriend was a pedophile I would have to take at least one million showers to feel clean again. Shudder! Yuck!
If you are a parent and you left your children with him, please take this opportunity to speak to them about if they had any uncomfortable feelings about him. It is amazing how in tuned children are. They need to talk about it and you need to assure them they could have come to you.
I certainly ditto Tracygirl,Bluebird,Blink and others,
So here will be a general opinion post about friends who find out they have a pedophile within their circle of trust(so to speak).
I’m always amazed when people ask that opinion not be critical of an offender because …you don’t know him/her like I do.Or not everything is black or white.When it comes to harming children..it is most definitely black and white.There are people who, to this day, think Ted Bundy was innocent ..well he mowed somebody’s lawn every week.He always brought some nice elderly ladies groceries in for them.
I don’t care if some revealed child predator had lovely table manners,took flowers to an ailing friend,told funny jokes at the water cooler or was good at their job.Oh and here’s the zinger…. they are always so good with kids.Vomit.
For the ordinary Joe those pleasantries make for a good neighbor etc.For the predator it’s part of the concealment of who they really are.What they want to do to another human being/child when no one is watching IS WHO THEY REALLY ARE period.A PREDATORY PEDOPHILE!!
More often than not ,getting caught say in their middle age years,there is a 99% chance this behavior has been going on for years.Often a string of victims.This didn’t just happen …this one time.
(from Blink: THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. OFFENDERS, ONCE THEY ACT ON THEIR URGES CAN NEVER BE REHABILITATED)
I’m also taken a back when I hear the argument that …well he didn’t kill the child.If you read or listen to the experts on the front lines trying to help these victims regain their lives…thoughts of suicide and attempts some successful,become a daily struggle for those who lived through being assaulted.
I know grown women who have been raped who have been destroyed by the experience.
It was asked of me earlier what I would do/feel should I be unfortunate enough to find out some one I knew was a pedophile?
Well it indeed happened to our family.He worked for my husband (who was a key witness in the trial).He came by our home the day his 9 year old step daughter was found dumped in a field and proceeded to reveal the condition the body was in when she was found and needed time off to help hunt down the sob who did this.
Information on the condition of the body had not only not been completed by the ME, but not revealed by LE and FBI to anyone. OOOPS
Was he a close friend of ours? No.He had a day to day working relationship with my husband.Socializing at company picnics and company softball games.
At the time this occurred ,if you asked the other employees..well they were shocked ,you know he was so nice..yeah aren’t they all.
I will NEVER forget that little mother’s face after the loss of her girl.Her girl had been assaulted by him before(he made threats against her family if she told) and her mother never knew(it came out in trial).The last time he assaulted her he killed her.
That small child was raped, torcherd, mutilated and beaten with a tire iron beyond recognition.Sorry for the graphic description.All of which revealed at trial.Of course he had a background of this from another state,he just hadn’t murdered anyone yet.For the record that was completely unknown to my husband and he did no hiring for this company.WHY WAS THIS GUY OUT AMONG THE PEOPLE. Where is he now? On DEATH ROW in a prison in McAlister Oklahoma.I care not one iota for people like alleged pedophile Tim Lawless or any child predator.
Just look into the eyes of a parent whose child has been violated or dumped like trash.Tell them that the guy/girl sitting in the cell feels bad about what they have done.Go ahead….I dare you.
Ok done with this. thanks for reading I enjoy this site,RG
rg, I took the liberty of bolding some of your comments, I hope you do not mind. I humbly applaud your sharing. I know what case you are referring to and it haunts me to this day. I pray that people that dont “get it” realize that this is an epidemic and no child is safe and needs to be equipped with the best knowledge and practices as possible for protection. Thank you.
B
Bravo to you Blink! I think educating your children about inappropriate behavior by adults is key in protecting our children.
Friend – you keep insisting, in post after post, that Blink indicated that Tim’s arrest and his crimes are somehow connected to the Cantu case when in fact Blink has simply stated they (MH & Tim) are related and doesn’t believe there is a connection or not one that has been revealed. God! Stop already!!
sorry I meant educating “OUR” children………..
Want to make a correction for post 526…correct age of child victim from Oklahoma case was 7.I googled the child killer to see if he has been put to death yet,and so far as I could find ,no and this took place in 84 to 85.
Last paragraph of 526 meant for people who would proclaim …you know he/she is really a nice person and feels really bad about(getting caught) what they have done.It wasn’t meant for anyone of us who have far more concern for the victims and their families.
NOW A QUESTION
Because of this experience we had where the killer spoke about the condition of the body before it came out of the MEs office….
I always wondered why Connie Lawless spoke of Sandra Cantu as being abused before the body was even found .I’m not saying CL had anything to do with the crime…but she sounded more like some one giving out a fact instead of a pondering type of question.
Did anyone else get this impression as well?
I posted that from day one as “something to ponder” and was pretty much slammed. I agree it is not proof of anything specific, but it certainly raised my hink..
B
It’s true Blink never said TL was related to the Cantu case, so let that go…
BUT – 83 pages of genealogy still have shown no “relation” between MH & TL. Perhaps because there is none?
When will the correction/retraction be presented? Probably never, since facts on this site are treated as a nuisance that gets in the way of rumors & speculation…
It is entertaining to read the goofy theories though!
Then you are not paying attention rebel. No, I will not retract the truth. Btw, do you really think everything that is known is appearing on that thread for all to see? Please. Move on.
Delilah,
I noted your thanks for the “Happy Mother’s Day” greeting…so I am assuming you are a mother. You seem to know Tim Lawless pretty well. If you have any children maybe you should be asking them if Mr. Lawless touched them in any appropriate way. If I were in your shoes, I’d be all over that like white on rice. Finally, I find your apologetics for him weird – you seem much more interested in validating his humanity than that of the child he is alleged to have molested repeatedly.
That was my first thought. I am giving friend the benefit of the doubt as I suspect she is more than a friend and reeling from shock, and guilt. It is not uncommon for a person in that position to want to deny the reality of a possible situation she may have narrowly avoided. However, get over that and do the right thing so your kids LEARN from this and protect themselves. I can tell you for a fact that whoever this is did not check him out thoroughly. Know how I know? Everything she referred to as facts about his family are incorrect, telling me she never met them. If she had, she would have found out this behavior runs in his family.
What are we going to find out on Thursday, the 14th ? Since it is a “private affair” ? Some curiosity seekers could go see who comes in and out of the space where Timothy is in negotiations ? This is frustrating !
It is still scheduled, but it is a conference and informal appearance anyway. If he intends to plea their will be a hearing on the docket and of course subject to public requests for information, so if their is a hearing announced following the conference, one could assume that would be forthcoming. Just a note, there is a child victim, her family, friends, colleagues and co-workers of the accused that are affected by this. I just see some people get caught up in the “You didnt know him”. You know, no, I did not. Thank God. But remember, this guy fooled alot of people for a great deal of time, genuinely professional and compassionate individuals got duped and possibly were at risk. I sincerely hope that is people’s “take away” here. If you are going to entrust someone with your children you damn well better check them out thoroughly. Here’s another thing, the more disadvantaged kids whose parents take a blind eye to their security are their no.1 target. Ask the Mom whose daughter was drugged before Sandra. She was not believed- and her daughter was the lucky one. Point is, if you are NOT disadvantaged, what are you doing to educate those in your community who need it? It is THE ONLY WAY to break the cycle.
Rant over, sorry, I read Radio’s post again, I feel like putting it on a billboard
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By the way Blink – I love the word “DRIVEL” !!! Am keeping this for future use. Thanks !~
sorry…make that “inappropriate”
Radio Girl – Tracygirl – Bluebird – Blink. Thank you ! REALITY !!!
First of all great job Blink for bringing top news stories to this website.
I do wonder why TL is being linked to Melissa Huckaby as a relative? Do you have more information on that?
If TL did in fact comment the felonies listed I have no doubt, that he will be in prison for a long time, I have faith in the justice system. Don’t go storming the castle before our justice system can do their job.
As for “friend” it must be difficult to see a friend’s true colors come out and difficult to explain to your children that the person they thought they knew…is someone they really don’t know.
My advice to you…Tell your children what TL has been charged with, let them ask you questions and going forward make sure they know to be very aware of their surroundings as well as the person around them.
Blink, it does seem that you are a bit harsh on those you disagree with and its too bad. If what your trying to do is let the public know about these criminals.. that’s great but all should have the chance to speak without ridicule! No one on this site likes pedophiles or has said they sympathize with pedophiles…people thoughts/opinions are drivel.
“Friend” you said to the learn all the facts about the case before judging. And although I agree with that…remember there is a person under the age of 14 that may have had something aweful happen to them and that people want it to stop. That’s it! There should be no attacks on you since you have not condoned the actions of TL, people need to read each thread more closely.
Blink, you have implied that TL is related in the Cantu case, you have to admit that….ie. The police filing may be wrong and you had definitely added with the headline the TL was a relative. I like to see how they are related.
Thanks for for all the information Blink, you are informative.
Respectfully, If I appear harsh it is not for difference of opinion. Case in point, there are over 5000 comments on this site, how many have you read to reach your conclusion? I am a better thinker when faced with difference of opinion and frequently learn from readers and colleagues. It is when a poster comes on here, with only one agenda and repeatedly posts the same garble, I realize that in one way or another, that individual has a personal stake for one reason or another and it has nothing to do with progressing intelligent dialog. In that case, it is unwelcome. Additionally, you are assuming that some of the posters your referring to are anonymous to me, and they are not. Enough said. In fairness, there are posts I get sometimes that are rude, threatening, and accusitory to a victim or victim’s family that I am privy to and others are not. I will never post such a thing here. Therefore if you see a response from me that seems like I brought the bazooka to the thumb wrestling match, I would ask your consideration that is probably why.
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By Mike Martinez
San Joaquin Herald
Posted: 05/08/2009 05:06:27 PM PDT
Updated: 05/09/2009 03:40:00 PM PDT
“STOCKTON — At what point does trying to guarantee a defendant a fair trial clash with the public’s right to know?
In San Joaquin County, judges are erring on the side of constitutional rights by clamping down on public access. In three high-profile criminal cases to hit Tracy in the past six months, judges have sealed search warrants, grand jury indictments and motions filed by attorneys, while also issuing gag orders silencing all involved parties and potential witnesses, leaving the public with few details and few sources for information.
Terry Francke, general counsel for Californians Aware, a Northern California-based nonprofit group supporting open government, said courts often treat public attention as something that needs to be suppressed. It’s something he’s seen regularly in the past 30 years, calling it “a problem that has never been solved.”
“There is this continuing risk that courts will simply take the easy road and seal the records,” Francke said. “It’s a struggle to keep the courts transparent in any well-publicized case. It’s a pervasive and continuing problem with the obvious irony — as long as no one is paying attention to the case, the records are open. As soon as there is some sense the community may be interested in the case, the facts are kept from the community.”
He said there is no consequence for a court that improperly seals a public record, other than having the decision reversed by a
higher court.On Tuesday, a judge sealed a grand jury indictment of Peter Chi, a Tracy cosmetic surgeon accused of inappropriately touching dozens of his patients. It won’t be released until Chi’s next court appearance, which is on June 17.
In a case involving four Tracy residents who were indicted by a criminal grand jury in March, accused of torturing a teenager in Tracy, Judge Cinda Fox ordered the transcripts sealed until 10 days after all parties had received a copy, to allow the defendants and lawyers time to read the hundreds of pages of documents.
However, an attorney for one of the defendants, Kelly Lane Lau, has not yet picked up his copy, essentially keeping the documents out of the public eye. There are already rumors that the transcripts may be sealed when the case returns to court next month.
In the case of Melissa Huckaby — the Tracy woman accused of kidnapping and murdering 8-year-old Sandra Cantu — a judge sealed a motion filed by prosecutors to prohibit exhuming the little girl’s body.
The order by Judge Linda Lofthus came four days after defense attorney Sam Behar withdrew his exhumation request, which was made public along with a handful of other documents he filed.
“Ensuring a fair trial to both sides in this case and the privacy rights of the Cantu family constitute overriding interests that overcome the right of public access to this pleading,” Loftus wrote. “The overriding interests support the sealing of this pleading. A substantial probability exists that the overriding interests will be prejudiced if the pleading is not sealed.”
Michael Vitiello, a professor specializing in criminal law at the University of the Pacific’s McGeorge School of Law in Sacramento, said courts must be even more careful with high profile cases — like Huckaby’s — in which the death penalty may be involved. Too much information could lead to a change of venue, costing taxpayers, families and the media, thousands of dollars. “To assure a fair trial may directly conflict with the public’s interest in these cases,” Vitiello said. “Without knowing what kind of case the prosecutor is trying, you have to be careful about giving public access too soon, especially in the killing of an 8-year-old girl. I imagine there is more to the story. Do you want those documents to come out now if there are other people involved? At what point do you tie the prosecutor’s hands?”
The San Joaquin court has established a Web site where some court documents — gag orders, document sealings and courtroom rules — are available in an effort to “provide the public with up-to-date and immediate information regarding high-profile court cases.”
William J. Murray Jr., the presiding judge of San Joaquin County Superior Court, issued an order the day before Huckaby’s first appearance barring videotaping, photography, filming, audio recording and broadcasting in the public areas of the entire Stockton courthouse on any day when her case is on the court’s calendar. Laptops and digital audio recorders, which are generally allowed in court for note-taking purposes, have also barred, by Loftus, during Huckaby’s appearances.
“The reason I issued that order is because we already have a busy courthouse,” Murray said. “Allowing the media to set up in the hallways jeopardizes public safety, and it’s not connected to a case. We’re actually pretty middle of the road with what we allow in the courthouse. We only prohibit things when there are safety issues, or issues that may affect our day-to-day operations.”
Judges are prohibited from discussing pending cases, and Murray declined to comment about any of the high-profile cases.
Generally speaking, he said, grand jury proceedings in San Joaquin County are infrequent but not rare. Since the court has too few resources, such as courtrooms, he prefers that prosecutors take cases to a grand jury because it takes the place of preliminary hearings, freeing up trial judges.
He said there are “a host of cases you never hear about” that go before a grand jury. “I wish they would use it more,” Murray said. “It’s a state process that has existed since California became a state. It’s an alternative method to obtain probable cause (for a jury trial). The fact that it’s secret is well-established in the law, and there are reasons for it.”
Reach Mike Martinez at 209-832-3947 or mike.martinez@bayareanewsgroup.com.
And one more question…
Is there a gag order on the TL case?
No, but it falls under a different set of circumstances due to the age of the victim and nature of the charges. If Mr. Lawless elects to plead not guilty and go to trial, it would not surprise me in the least in this jurisdiction.
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Thank you Blink for your reply, I do agree that its hard to keep emotions out of a thread that is as aweful as child molestion.
I’m not sure what personal stake “friend” or “Delilah” have in this case as they have stated nothing of the kind, other then disbelief that their friend is not who they thought they were. They don’t seem to be denying that TL is guilty.
Secondly, “progressing intellient dialog” is a matter of opinion when reading some of the posts that did make on this site. Some comments are more unintellient then others and it seems the only intelligent ones are the ones that you agree with. IMHO, No offense…
Ok, you do realize your making a generalization on your opinion right? The very objection your stating to me- As far as you referring to what posts make it on this site, in over 5000 comments on this site, I have deleted exactly 7, so you can count on getting a fair representation of my readership that chooses to comment. I do not comment on every post, this not a forum. If you do your diligence you will find I have many professional collegaues, as well as posters I am unfamiliar, and a difference of opinion is just that. So with no offense intended to you either, go suck an egg.
Kidding. I have been over this, I am standing behind my post, I am standing behind my opinions and if you cannot take the time to review this issue has been addressed adnauseum I will thank you for not wasting mine any longer.
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Thank you for response. And thank you for standing by your opinions, I can respect that.
Really? You’ve only deleted 7 total posts? I’m honored, since 4 or 5 of mine have disappeared… All I want to know is why you insist on reporting the apparently incorrect “fact” that they are related, w/ all evidence to the contrary. You keep saying it’s been “addressed”, but it hasn’t been answered. How are they related? It’s a simple enough question. Maybe you could just give us a simple answer. Apparently I’m not the only one that would like an answer, so how about it?
Go ahead, call me a troll, that seems to be what anyone who challenges your “facts” gets called… I’m told that I always “have to be right”… Could it be that you’re the same?
Some days that would be true, lol, but not today. I have answered it, more than once to the extent I am going to until the case is resolved. Now, put down the computer and go play one of your world class lovely guitars. I for one, do not play, but I dont go around telling others how to, either.
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HAHA!!! Fair enough!! Hope you liked the tunes, I’ll stop needling you for a while… I don’t mean to be mean-spirited, I just wanted an answer… No hard feelings about you calling me a troll!!
Deal.
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Blink, how do you do what you do? Good grief, sometimes folks just need to read and learn. Opinion are great, especially when there is a basis for said opinion, not just a brain fart. Good job and bless you for your patience!!
TY. I do it because I am supposed to, and because I fear what would happen if nobody did, and when I am touched by others who “do what they do” it feels like it is no longer optional. I want our babies to be safe and I dont know any other way.
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Regarding post #529, blinks comment…
Blink I think in the beginning when I first heard of the lawlesses being questioned I have to honest and say I could not imagine people of that age being involved in anyway. Now I realize I was wrong. I do believe that Connie and Lane Lawless knew of their granddaughters involvement. I also believe they have known all along of the problems with MH.
If I am one of the people you feel blasted you, I am sorry.
Comment for #526
Radiogirl,
Your post was exact and perfectly said. I am so sorry to hear of this little girls horrible death. I don’t understand how people can honestly defend these animals,(I think I just insulted my dog). We hear about rehabilitation is the way, how we should learn from them in how to treat their little “problem”….I say to that, which child are we going to use to test the theory?
Hi Blink: You’ve mentioned you are able to see posts before you post them. That way you can monitor what goes on the site and can choose to delete it or edit it as necessary. How does that work? It seems like when I hit “submit comment” it goes right into the thread. Just curious.
Tameka Gomes is no longer in the Sacramento jail system. Do you know what ended up with her?
I know she was released within minutes of the arrest of a Micheal P Gomes.. who is still in custody on an AMOS hold.
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Tracygirl
If I had my way, all people who rape and or kill children would be in prison for life. I would actually prefer they get the death penalty automatically. That would eventually rid society of problem.
Also all people caught with child porn should have to be sentenced to hard labour with no pay for 10 years. This whole thing has gotten ridiculous. I also have something else to say regarding porn in general. (this is not for the faint of heart, so shut your eyes)
I believe all the “shaving” of adults to make them hairless contributes to adults wanting to be with “hairless” little people. I could be wrong, any ideas?
Well – tomorrow is going to be a big day for TL. Am looking forward to the posts tomorrow on this site ! A little bit of info would be informative and captivating.
TracyMom – what is going on with Midsi ? Any address as of yet ? Was the surgery successful ? A broken neck is not exactly minor.
Thanks TracyMom – I just found the address you posted and sent the following letter !
974 Benicia Road Vallejo CA 94591
MAY 13, 2009
HI MIDSI —
I HOPE YOU ARE RECOVERING WELL AND I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE MANY CONCERNED NATIONWIDE PEOPLE FOLLOWING YOUR PROGRESS. I READ BLINK ON CHRIME AND SCARRED MONKEYS ON THE INTERNET DAILY AND POST AS WELL. YOUR NAME, HISTORY, AUTO ACCIDENT, AND YOUR HOSPITIZATION HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT AND EVERYONE IS CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR WELL BEING.
YOU ARE A VERY STRONG AND SPECIAL YOUNG LADY ! TRACYMOM KEEPS US
UNDATED ON WHAT IS GOING ON WITH YOU. PLEASE LET HER KNOW WHEN YOU ARE OUT OF ICU.
YOUR LOUISANA FRIEND,
on the news tonight did anyone else hear that they were discussing the Orchard Estate Mobile Home Park once again and they said they have uncovered quite a bit of child pornography in the park. They wouldn’t comment on whether it was related to the Cantu case due to the gag order, but discovered the kiddie porn it as a result of the search and investigation on Sandra… We knew this was coming… When they were showing footage for the news cast, there was one scene where they only showed feet covered with those paper booties, it looked to me like the federal agents that searched the church, cause they wore those booties too. It appeared to be on the outside of the search, just under the overhang where the overhand supports were. Any thoughts?
I did not see that, but I believe and have said from day one there will be more arrests, they have uncovered a porn ring, and the Feds are leading that investigation. Imo, the rarity of Huckaby’s crime is about to get less rare as to the motivation. Like many, that skipping little sweetie-baby grips me in the throat and I will do everything I can to help raise awareness about these freaks. The rock has been overturned, we as a community has to make sure they dont scurry under another.
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Hi Blink, so do you think Huckaby did it then for financial reasons — because she knew she could make good money off child porn by selling it to those around her? or do you think she also was abused earlier in her life?
how could someone be so cynical as to profit from something so horrible, if it were purely motivated by finances? (i’m not doubting it’s possible, just horrified by it all)
Yes and Yes
I have no effing idea what could make a person ever harm a child, or be sexually aroused by one, I never will, it is beyond my comprehension.
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