SANDRA CANTU CASE: MELISSA HUCKABY BOMBSHELL HUCKABY HAS TODDLER SON
BREAKING NEWS
Tracy, CA– In a case that has baffled some of the most prestigious clinical minds and profiling experts in the country, blinkoncrime.com has uncovered the latest bombshell in the background of Melissa Huckaby.
Huckaby’s five year old daughter, currently the subject of a brutal child custody dispute between her Father, Johnny Huckaby, and her maternal grandmother, Judy Lawless, is NOT an only child.
A source within the Lawless Church Community who has known the Lawless’s for over 40 years has confirmed Melissa Huckaby has a toddler son; also in the custodial care of Judy Purks Lawless. As he is a minor, and given the nature of the crimes his mother is currently charged with, we will not be releasing his identity or exact age. He is not the child of Johnny Huckaby, the tot Mom’s former husband.
Researchers at blinkoncrime.com became alarmed upon hearing this information as their has not been a single statement by Tracy PD, the Lawless family, or any friend or associate about the child, or who his father might be.
Judy Lawless had been in Oregon since the day after Sandra Cantu’s disappearance on March 28, until recently, following a judges temporary decision to award custody of her granddaughter to John Huckaby. After pleading with a judge, Lawless won a reversal to that order and is due back in court July 6th. It is not known if her grandson is with her presently, or if he remained at the family ranch in Grant’s Pass Oregon.
This latest development comes on the heals of the release of evidence involving the new charges against Huckaby, which are not covered in the gag order.
Tracy PD found a very interesting search on Huckaby’s computer. Huckaby had a particular interest in a murder case of a 4 year old girl, Rose Pizam, a child of French descent living in Jerusalem. There were multiple searches on the hard drive of this case, although Tracy PD has not released the dates of the searches.
Rose Pizm, was allegedly murdered by her grandfather and her Mother, who were lovers and the parents to two other young daughters. She was missing several months when divers found her remains following Ron Ronalds’ confession to her murder, in a red suitcase in the Yardok river.’
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whoa………
are you implying what i think you are implying as a possibility…
Not implying anything. I want to know where he is, and if the dad even knows he exists, and that he is safe.
Judy Lawless is working within in the family court regarding the 5 year old daughter, so I have to trust that oversight to take it’s course. Why has nobody so much as mentioned him or even Huckaby’s pregnancy with a second child.
B
what? wth? wtf? WHAT? where has this kid been? how did he show up now?
do you know if the son is even still alive? where has this kid been???
The girls name is Rose Pizam. That makes it easier to search for info about that case. I know people will search their googly fingers off now!
To the rest of the information; Wow. That’s all I can say!
Your right, thanks for catching, fixed.
B
One more note: Rose was the daughter of Marie-Charlotte Renault and Benjamin Pizem. The grandfathers name is Ronald Ron. (Ronnie/Ronny) Ronald Ron is the father of Benjamin Pizem. In other words, Marie-Charlotte fell in love with her husbands dad (father-in-law) and had two children with him.
Again, Marie-Charlotte did not have a relationship with her own grandfather, but with Rose’ paternal grandfather.
Important distinction her. Just though it was a little unclear in the article.
Yes, he was her father in law. I have seen about 10 different spellings of all 3 names unfortunately
B
I’ve been thinking that she had another child no one knew about, because of the hospital bills she’s accrued. But those bills were accrued BEFORE her daughter was born, right? I thought we would find out she had an older child, not a toddler. Wow.
Just when I think my jaw can’t drop anymore. Oh dear Lord — help me control my anger and rage so I can do something productive (onward research!)!
I remember reading the case of the 4 yr old in Daily Mail UK and thinking what on earth will we hear of next.
Since it appears unavoidable to realize MH must have endured sexual molestation as a child, her interest in a case from overseas IS quite strange (red flag?).
As for the hospital bill, if MH was on medicare at the time…she’d not have received any bills…we the tax payers get to pay that one off. Seems this family has alot more to hide than any of us imagined.
….hit send before proofing last post…but my reasoning for equating her probable molestation with her interest in this little girl’s murder would be the unorthodox relationship between the woman and her father-in-law. Maybe MH was relating to something similar that happened to her which caused this case to be of such interest? So bizzare.
Blink, this may be a bombshell, but something tells me you have a few nukes to set off in the future!!!
lol, I really gotta do something about the regulars around here, they are starting to “just know”
B
WoW!!!
Melissa needs a DNA and brain scan done. She may be a product of some type of incest or has a brain that is chemically damaged. She is a twisted, evil, person who only feels pain for herself.
Blink-
Earlier when you posted the MH “relative” scoop and refused to disclose the link due to a minor child…
Do you have any reason to believe MH son is somehow linked to TL?
No, I was referring to the victim of Timothy Lawless. To my knowledge, there is no connection of this child to him.
B
I am personal friends with this family and the media is driving me insane with their untrue speculations and claims. Melissa Huckaby does NOT, nor has she EVER had a toddler son. She has ONE five-year old daughter. Her mother does NOT have custody of any toddler. PLEASE, cease and desist when you don’t have the facts.
Respectfully, so is the source Marie. As far as the cease and desist language, I would be careful how you throw that around. Where you surprised Melissa did this allegedly? That answer will tell me how close to the family you are.
B
Blink, we live in the area of grants pass, do u know where in town the family farm is or the name of it?? There has been nothing in the local news about it?!?! TIA
Yes, I know exactly, working on that now.
B
It seems that Blink would have mentioned the fact that MH had another kid if she knew about it at the time of the TL arrest, don’t you think? I still have issues w/ the “relative” report, I think it’s been proven false by the very people trying to verify it, that have posted 120+ pages of genealogy showing no connection.
But give Blink a little credit, if there was some connection, I doubt that 3 weeks would pass before she mentioned it…
Rebel, that is not true, although admittedly I have not laid it out in a usable format yet, but I will. I was just wondering if you saw this recent arrest?
Inmate Name: GOMES, ANTHONY CHRISTOPHER
Aliases: GOMES, ANTHONY
GOMES, ANTHONY C.
GOMES, ANTHONY CRISTOPHER
Booking Number: 09-13137
Date of Birth: 04/07/1966
Gender: Male
Height: 5′06″
Weight: 150
Visiting: 24 Hour Lobby Visiting
Mailing Address:
Mailing Information GOMES, ANTHONY CHRISTOPHER / 09-13137
San Joaquin County Jail
999 West Mathews Road
French Camp, CA 95231
Booking Date/Time: 05/26/2009 at 09:55 AM
Projected Release Date: 07/16/2009
Arresting Agency: SAN JOAQUIN CO. SHERIFF’S DEPT.
Type of Arrest: COMMITMENT
Charges/Bail: Case# TM113505A (00) COMMITMENT
PC 166(C)(1) Misdemeanor
CONTEMPT OF COURT
Disposition: DISM - FURTH. OF JUSTICE
PC 273.5(A)
Disposition: PLED GUILTY
Case# TM108931A (01) COMMITMENT
PC 243(E) Misdemeanor
BATTERY ON NONCOHAB SPOUSE
As to the knowledge of the child, this information was given to me Friday, I had the source verified over the weekend. I was as shocked as y’all.
B
WOW!!
Been lurking for awhile - just HAD to comment on this…I am STUNNED! Why the hell did we no know about this before?? I can only IMAGINE what other bomb-shells we will find out about! I personally would NOT be surprised if the little boy is her “grandfathers” - I have had a baaad feeling about him since I saw him on tv - something stinks in that family.
When you put her, her crime and the murder of Rose Pizam together; you have a desperate cry for help. Too bad she didn’t use her real voice…
God Bless the Child
As always, my hat’s off to Blink!
Closed the bold tag for you… It just bothers me that having the same last name makes people think they’re related, I gave many sarcastic examples of where that obviously isn’t true. Jumping to conclusions bothers me I guess.
Thank you.
I can understand and respect that, but that is not what happened here. Your just going to have to trust me, or not, on this one.
B
Oops - I guess I can’t close the bold tag, everything is still bold.
ty, I think I got it
B
I’m sorry for posting this here, but Blink, is there any chance you can help with the Amber Dubois case in Escondido, California? It seems as if there is a link between the suspect in two child molestation cases at Walmart stores in San Diego, which is near Escondido. (See links below for more information about these links).
Amber’s family desperately needs national exposure to help bring her home. Also, the more people who view coverage of the suspect, the more likely someone will come forward with information about him.
Please, please, please help!
Thank you Blink, for all that you do!
Here are links to recent media regarding Amber and the child molestation cases:
http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=10419108
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/may/25/1m25amber235228-police-investigate-possible-link-b
bluebird- I have been in contact with Amber’s Family and we are due to connect with some additional assets tomorrow. There is a possibility NG will do a tracker update on her case tomorrow, cant promise anything but I spoke with them today on Amber’s case.
B
I meant to say that there is a potential link between the two molestation cases and Amber Dubois’ case. They have the potential suspect’s vehicle on camera as well as the suspect himself inside the Walmart store. The more people who see this the more likely someone will recognize him and come forward. Thank you.
Still bold!
I’m not from Missouri, but I guess I have some of the “Show Me State” mentality… I’ll watch w/ interest & see how it unfolds. I appreciate you not calling me a troll any more!!
Fair enough, lol.
Well you have not been troll-ing
B
IMO, the fact that Huckaby has another child - never seen or mentioned - points to the probability that that child is either:
- A ‘disgrace’ to the family (ie: never speak of it!) - perhaps creepy lurking Pastor Grampa’s child (we have been suspecting his involvement in some way all along)
- Something unspeakable has happened to that child, that the family is hiding. (Perpetrated by Huckaby? Thus the medical bills?)
I still have to wonder if her bills due accrued to the hospital & ambulance company weren’t dealing with a number of attempted suicides/self mutilation, based on her swallowing razor blades (WTF?!) & reports from friends of wrist cutting. Clearly, for whatever reason, she feels a need to torture/punish herself & others. Her abuse as a child is screaming for all to hear.
Just some thoughts.
Blink,
Anthony Christopher Gomes? Related to Timothy John Lawless, a.k.a. Tim Gomes??? What’s the significance of the spousal abuse charge?
Not that far Jill, Im just throwing it out there as AC Gomes, same last name as both Tim Gomes and other brothers Jeff Gomes and Gary Gomes, but same birthdate as Gary Gomes/Lawless. Who has been off any radar since he was incarcerated most recently in Alameda Cty for voluntary manslaughter.
B
Dear Marie Scroggs,
I hope you understand that just because you know Melissa and/or her family doesn’t mean they let you in on everything in their respective closets. It is not uncommon for families to hide facts that would disrupt their outward appearence.
As every regular in here has heard over and over from me, I’m a preacher’s kid. My dad was also a family counselor for 10 yrs. He never divulged anything to even my mother re: what the families talked about…but trust me the kids I went to church and school with had NO problem letting out the dirty laundry and yes…things MUCH worse than an unplanned pregnancy were “hidden” for the sake of the families “good names”.
Please do not be so surprised if indeed you have been fooled. It’s been common place for ages and all of us have been at one point or another.
everybody is so BOLD.
Blink,
It seems like there was an earlier article on yours or one of the other websites in which a man who lived in the trailer park said something about Melissa not allowing her CHILDREN to play outdoors. I remember wondering at the time if there was another child. Could it be that I misread this? I believe he said he had mowed the lawn at the location where Melissa lives.
Mandy
That was the maintenance man of the MHP, and it may have been a source link, I dont recall writing about that specifically.
B
Hey Blink, Is it possible that MH is not the biological or adoptive mother of her toddler “son”? I would not put it past her to have possesion of him and claim he was her boy. If he had become a nuisance she could have suitcased him up and sent him to camp, or wherever. Apparently, no one in the family would have reported her. This toddler could be on milk cartons now with his real parents wondering every day what became of him.
I am ssuming LE is searching for him and will run some DNA ASAP.
I am hearing she is the bio mom, but honestly, all angles should be checked out.
B
It seems to me that the Gary Lawless from Oakland is probably African-American, based on the neighborhood of East Oakland where it happened. It sounds like battling crack dealers, one of the guys he shot is named Sirreginald… I don’t like to stereotype, but that is a predominantly black neighborhood, & a white guy slinging dope in that area would be unusual…
Sorry, I should have been more clear, this Gary Lawless, is not believed to be the brother of Timothy. He is the wrong age. The arrest I posted, possibly.
B
Please check to see if there was an earlier article on your website in which a man living in the trailer park
had commented something about Melissa’s children not being allowed to play outdoors. At the time, when I read that I wondered if she had other children.
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_12119398
Carlos Martinez, a handyman for the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park where both Sandra Cantu and Melissa Huckaby lived, remembered seeing Sandra going into Huckaby’s home about two weeks ago to play with Huckaby’s daughter.
According to Martinez, Huckaby’s young child never played outside with the other children in the neighborhood.
“Kids here are raised to play by themselves, go to the park, kick a ball around,” Martinez said. “Her kid never played outside. Sandra was the only girl I’ve ever seen go inside.”
Amber Dubois case in Escondido, California looks like a runaway case to the media. My opinion is it is a pedophile in the San Diego area. The red truck seems to be turning up at attacks on young girls around San Diego Walmarts.
I think at the beginning it definately did, and LE helped that along. By then it had cooled off too much to emphasize that IT IS NOT. This is a problem when you have an inexperienced department working on a non-family abduction.
B
Volunteer firemen like to drive around in red trucks. Pretending to be law enforcement. Tip for Escondido police they should look into past convicted fake law enforcement.
Blink,
What can we, as typical citizens, do to help protect these children? My heart rips apart a little each time I read these stories; and all I want to do is walk away and reaffirm my love for my children to them.
It doesn’t seem like there are a lot of alternatives for parents wishing to terminate parental rights without getting DCFS and/or family involved. What if someone just wants to be rid of their children, with no legal bindings, repurcussions (sp?) or family involvement? DCFS just wants to maintain a family unit, and that is too often to the detriment (and/or demise) of the child(ren) involved.
There are outreach programs for SO MANY problems in life, but I don’t see any for people wishing to give up their children voluntarily beyond infancy. I don’t see anything that screams to parents “don’t kill your pre-schooler, we can help”. Horrible way to put it, but it is what it is.
Just babble with a bit of wishful thinking, I guess.
Hello, everybody ! Just watched JVM ..she mentioned information from Melissa H computer. Supposedly, she was researching a case in Egypt, where the kid was found/discarted in suitcase..Mimiking , you would think
Vidda- its in the article.
B
In regards to the Amber Dubois case, I also believe it is an abduction by a sexual predator, although I am not convinced it is the Walmart guy or that they are related due to the age difference between Amber and the other two victims. Amber is 14, the others are 5 and 6. But, either way, I think the more publicity the better. I live nearby, and I can tell you, her pic is plastered everywhere in the San Diego area. Blink, I hope you can help with this case. Thanks for all you are doing for little Sandra’s case. I have been following it closely through your site and my gut tells me you are totally on the right track.
I just posted a very similar thought on SM. I do not believe there is any correlation between the Walmart Burgundy truck guy and the subject responsible for Amber’s disappearance. These offenders are not even in the same zip code, figuratively.
That said, burgundy truck guy needs to be caught, and I promise you somebody who saw that video knows who it is
B
Hey Blink,
I have to say, your work is amazing . I look forward to it every day. This isn’t the best place to post this, but I just had to offer some constructive criticism and I didn’t know where else to post as I check this from my phone and don’t see all the links sometimes.
Please double check your spelling and word usage. You often spell things incorrectly for the words usage. For example: ”you’re” vs ”your” or ”there”, ”their” or ”they’re”. It is just very distracting and has been irking me for a while, and I’m not trying to be rude at all, I absolutely love your site and work. I think you’re incredibly intelligent and professional, just something that may slip by in the moment.
Thanks! <3
lol, it definately does, I agree. I am the first to admit my fervor gets in the way of my grammar. In fairness, there are 2 proffs that will see your comment and haunt my house for days.. Also, I am incredibly gorgeous and I dont have to care about any of that.
lol, I am totally effing with you, but I want to see who is paying attention.
B
This says Melissa’s two young children never played outside with the other children.
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2009/03_04/2009_04_11_SJMN_445PM.htm
well, well, well.
B
The research probably had more to do with the suitcase than anything JMHO. Thank you for your incredible work Blink.
YW.
My jury is out on that Sue, I need dates. If it predates 3/27, I have a theory.
B
Have they said or are they able to determine the first time MH (or whoever had access to her computer) researched the Pizam case? It really puts a stronger premeditation case together versus the “accident” cover up theory that I’ve heard people talk about.
DISGUSTING!! Maybe I didn’t pay as much attention before, or it wasn’t so much in the news, or both, but these stories are showing up more and more!
ok, so apparently the church knew about kiddo #2. how did nobody else know about him?
what a tangled web we weave…
I figured with so many eyes and ears on this - someone would have caught that quote on post 39 and asked questions earlier. So I checked and indeed it has been edited. Here it is from the SJ Mercury News Website - Mike Martinez/Reporter
Bay Area News Group staff and wire reports
Posted: 04/11/2009 09:39:34 AM PDT
Updated: 04/13/2009 10:02:45 AM PDT
Police say they have no evidence that missing Tracy girl has been harmed
Carlos Martinez, a handyman for the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park where both Sandra Cantu and Melissa Huckaby lived, remembered seeing Sandra going into Huckaby’s home about two weeks ago to play with Huckaby’s daughter.
According to Martinez, Huckaby’s young child never played outside with the other children in the neighborhood.
“Kids here are raised to play by themselves, go to the park, kick a ball around,” Martinez said. “Her kid never played outside. Sandra was the only girl I’ve ever seen go inside.”
Just thought you-all should know :>)
Not so fast, I think yours may have been edited to possibly protect the fact another child may be involved.
This posting hasn’t been edited since that statement was made on 4/11:
https://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_12119398?source%253Dmost_viewed.20F88DA3D7D369F5BB70F372987EAE1F.html
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4:45 p.m.: Neighbor says Huckaby kept her kids inside
Bay Area News Group staff and wire reports
Posted: 04/11/2009 09:39:34 AM PDT
Updated: 04/11/2009 04:39:03 PM PDT
Apr 11:
Sandra Cantu slaying: Readers react to Huckaby arrestFamily of suspect in Sandra Cantu case ’shocked’ at arrestFamily of slain girl says suspect was mother of Sandra’s best friendSandra Cantu likely died before search for her beganApr 9:
Memorial services planned for Sandra CantuApr 8:
‘There’s a monster out there,’ Tracy girl’s grandfather saysApr 7:
Vigil for Tracy girl draws large crowdOther high-profile Bay Area missing children’s casesEditorial: Violent death of Tracy’s Sandra Cantu or any child is an unfathomable lossMap: Slaying of Sandra Cantu, Tracy, Calif.Apr 6:
Missing Tracy girl’s body foundMar 30:
No evidence missing Tracy girl harmed, police sayCarlos Martinez, a handyman for the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park where both Sandra Cantu and Melissa Huckaby lived, remembered seeing Sandra going into Huckaby’s home about two weeks ago to play with Huckaby’s daughter.
According to Martinez, Huckaby’s two young children never played outside with the other children in the neighborhood.
“Kids here are raised to play by themselves, go to the park, kick a ball around,” Martinez said. “Her kids never played outside. Sandra was the only girl I’ve ever seen go inside.”
3:06 p.m.: Mother of Chandra Levy appears with Sandra Cantu’s family
Susan Levy of nearby Modesto, mother of slain Washington intern Chandra Levy, appeared arm-in-arm with Angie and Joe Chavez, Sandra Cantu’s aunt and uncle, as they spoke with reporters.
Levy said she was there to support the family as they, too, dealt with the tragic loss of a child. Authorities recently issued an arrest warrant in the 2001 Levy killing.
2:55 p.m.: Melissa Huckaby is on suicide watch, officials say
San Joaquin County sheriff’s Deputy Les Garcia said Melissa Huckaby is on suicide watch in an observation cell away from other inmates for her own safety, though there have been no incidents. Huckaby is refusing visits, he said.
2:45 p.m.: Former employer talks about Huckaby
According to the Associated Press: Huckaby worked as a checker at a Food for Less grocery store in a strip mall just east of the mobile park for nearly four years, until she was fired sometime in 2004, said Matt Duncan, an assistant manager at the store now known as FoodMaxx.
“I wouldn’t have anything bad to say about her, until now,” said Duncan, who has worked at the store off-and-on for about 10 years. “I would’ve never suspected her to do something like this.”
10:40 a.m.: Police: Sunday school teacher only suspect in Sandra Cantu slaying
Tracy police spokesman Sgt. Tony Sheneman has wrapped up the 30-minute news conference on the arrest of Melissa Huckaby in the slaying of Sandra Cantu.
Huckaby was emotional at various times during her interview with police, including when she was handcuffed. He would not say whether Huckaby’s statement amounted to a confession.
He said he was told Huckaby was not at the first vigil for Sandra, but there was an indication from people at the second that she attended that one.
Sheneman said: “Professionally, while we’re confident and pleased an arrest has been made, it will not reverse what happened. There’s no joy in this.”
Asked what people should learn from the fact that a woman is suspected in the slaying, he said, “You have to be 100 percent aware of who your children are talking to.”
The farm workers who found the suitcase have refused to accept any reward money, he said.
10:29 a.m.: Police: DA will say whether they believe slaying of Sandra was premeditated
Asked about a motive, Sheneman said, “I can’t discuss that.”
Whether the slaying was premeditated will be up to the District Attorney to decide in filing the charges, Sheneman said. He said police do have an indication whether it was premeditated, but he would not elaborate.
Asked whether Huckaby’s child was taken into protective custody, he said, “You can make that presumption but I can’t confirm anything.”
The arraignment is scheduled for 1:30 p.m. Tuesday in the Manteca courthouse, but may change.
10:22 a.m.: Police believe they know where slaying occurred
More from Tracy police spokesman Sgt. Tony Sheneman:
Melissa Huckaby did not have a lawyer with her when she talked to police last night.
Sandra’s family was in disbelief when they learned the suspect was someone they knew.
Will not speculate on whether she was molested. The autopsy results and search warrants are still sealed.
Police questioned her twice before Thursday.
“It’s usual for a woman statistically, according to the FBI, for a woman to be involved in anything like this.”
Police believe they know where the slaying occurred but won’t say where.
10:14 a.m.: No other suspects in Sandra Cantu slaying
Comments from Tracy police spokesman Sgt. Tony Sheneman:
Booked on suspicion of kidnapping and murder. Melissa drove herself to the police department to participate in an interview at 11 p.m. Spoke to us til 1:30 a.m. After, she was transported to San Joaquin County Jail.
Many agencies worked “to bring this case to closure.”
“There are no other suspects in this case. We do not anticipate any other arrests.”
10:04 a.m.: Awaiting start of news conference on arrest of Melissa Huckaby in Sandra Cantu slaying
We’re minutes away from the start of the news conference. No one at the podium yet.
News conference on arrest of Melissa Huckaby in Sandra Cantu slaying
Authorities have scheduled a 10 a.m. news conference Saturday following the arrest overnight of Sunday school teacher Melissa Huckaby in the slaying of 8-year-old Tracy girl Sandra Cantu.
Live updates from the news conference will be reported here.
I also recall reading something that made me wonder if there was another child… and a boy - I need to go back and find what made me pause on that.
I only point this out because these are time-lined updates. The one from Mercurynews.com was updated 2 days after the statement was made/posted, but no additional time-lined information was added after this statement, which could only lead one to believe it was edited on 4/13 adjust a previous statement (# of children MH had).
Blink-
In my last blog I asked if you knew if MH’s family in Grants Pass, Oregon had any affiliation with Roy Master’s Foundation of Human Understanding (Original name: Institute of Hypnosis)?
Roy has a very large following and that connection would be very scary.
I do not.
B
Here is a copy of the original text w/link to the mercurynews.com articles, dated 4/12, quoting “two young children?. I am convinced it was edited, now.
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=351797
sorry forgot the link
I’m sorry, here’s another article from 4/11… how has this slipped by so many (or maybe just us? LOL) for 6 wks?
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Melissa Huckaby, 28, is on suicide watch at the San Joaquin County Jail said Deputy Les Garcia on Saturday.
Huckaby, a Sunday school teacher was arrested late Friday for the murder of 8-year-old Sandra Cantu.
Neighbors and former co-workers of Huckaby were shocked by the arrest and describe her as a quiet woman who kept to herself.
Carlos Martinez, a handyman at the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park where Huckaby lived with her two daughters and grandparents said, “They were a weird family. They didn’t speak with anyone.”
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http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m4d11-Suspect-in-Sandra-Cantu-death-on-suicide-watch
got it, not 2 daughters though
B
so now, is it a son or daughter? conflicting reports
Unequivocally a son.
Conflicting reports, where?
B
I read where Huckaby’s little girl was very sickly, - since Melissa H. thrives on medical attention like-razor blade swallowing-(yikes) maybe her daughter is a product of Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy, esp if she uses poison on other victims too. The parents thrive on the medical attention from a sick child-so they keep them sick..Melissa sure fits the profile! She must be in so much mental torture/hell to do the things she has done to others and herself.
I check here for the latest freshest news flashes- Good Job Blink! thanks for setting up this format- its interesting to read others’ comments & yours
your report says son, examiner.com reported 2 daughters
Im aware. Theirs is wrong, it is a son. No question
B
One other note - I believe the quote from Martinez was from an interview that aired on a local news cast. The Merc reporter was standing there with several others taking down what was said.
More interesting to me, however, is another local newscast (I believe I linked to from B’s previous thread) several days ago quoted a neighbor of Daniel Plowman - that he had lived in an apartment complex in Hayward CA until about 2 months ago (he was evicted) with his girlfriend and two young children. A second interviewee stated that the two young children never rarely left the apartment. Saying all he ever saw was the guy and the two young kids.
Both interviews were done off camera - and the reporter suggested the eviction roughly conicided with his arrest and release in Tracy on March 3.
B - anything to this that you can acknowledge?
Not that I can acknowledge, no, but well done
B
so she wasn’t really staying with grammy and pappy ’till the live-in got evicted (or he figured she’d tried to drug him). this just gets more and more twisted.
Sweatpea…I have been listening to Mr. Masters for years and I am curious why you would slanderize a man you clearly know nothing about. His organization volunteers much time to the military men and women with PTSD. He also has a fantastic prison ministry. Do not go there…may as well slander Bill Graham IMO.
As for the Institute of Hypnosis, Mr. Masters learned hypnosis when working in Africa as an apprentice diamond cutter at the age of 15 (he’s now in his 80’s). He wound up there because his father died and he had to support his mom and younger brother. He said he learned early on people did not need to be hypnotized…but UNhypnotized! They basically walked around in a fog and getting this undone was his goal. After 10 or so years of this, he decided to no longer practice because as a Jewish Christian, he understood this method was contradictory to practicing Christianity.
for those with loved ones in the military, go to http://www.patriotoutreach.org which is headed up by Col. Anthony Monaco who hand in hand with Mr. Masters want to help soilders with PTSD. Great support network for our brave men/women in uniform!
Regarding Amber Dubois’ case… don’t you think it’s more than a coincidence that there’s a video of a suspicious burgandy/maroon truck near where Amber was last seen and now videos of a very similar truck in the Walmart cases? Growing up in metropolitan Phoenix, which is similar to metropolitan San Diego, you can have a different zip code than someone just a block over. The towns all kind of blend together. Also, I’ve heard of offenders who prey on children of various ages. I just don’t see how these cannot be related. Remember, according to a witness, Amber seen with walking with a tall, dark boy/man just before she approached campus. In the Walmart video the man is clearly white, but he appears dark-complected with dark hair. I have a similar skin color and very dark hair but I’m “white”. Some people will classify me as white but others think I’m of Latin dissent. When I travel to Latin America for work, depending on the region I’m in, people don’t realize I’m American. Anyway, my point is that the man who saw Amber with the tall, “dark” guy could have been referring to a white guy with a dark complextion. Hopefully the LE has already contacted the witness and shown him the video to see if it’s the same guy Amber was seen with just before she disappeare!
I agree with you Blink, somebody will recognize the suspect in the video and will hopefully do the right thing and come forward. Even if the person has nothing to do with Amber, the man needs to be put away before he commits these horrific acts on other children.
Keep me posted!
Thank you!
Brenda
As stated before I am quite sure you and I have very different beliefs. I happen to have lived in the Rogue Valley for the past 25 years. I am very familiar with Roy and the Master’s family.
I stand by my opinion of Them without doubt! You may want to look up
Roy Master’s Cult you will find lots of info there.
link to article that addresses eye witness account of Amber walking with a dark-complected boy who did not match the identity of any of her classmates.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2009/04/14/news/inland/escondido/z3b74c76682d3c97f882575980062be3e.txt
Blink remember the photos on MH’s dad’s face book? I think we guessed one of the girls was MH daughter, who was the other? Maybe that is who is being mistaken as her 2nd daughter? Just a guess.
BLINK
Sandra Cantu ” Precious Sandra” was taken by the Lawless. Not just Melissa- now even more I believe that this is a Family Affair..without a doubt. Thank You Blink for all your hard work and seeking Justice for Sandra. A family that hides within/behind the Holy Grail - What a mockery they are.
I am praying for Sandra’s Mother and family.
K
To: 57. blue_bird: Where is Amber Dubois?
Escondido is in North county. Around 30-40 Miles away from the two San Diego locations. Around 25-35 minute car ride. Around seven small towns between the locations. She disappeared going to school. A bad area. Mostly hispanic.
http://www.bigcatdesigns.com/amber/amber.htm
I am asking everyone to take a moment to look at Amber’s thread here:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4583.msg821091#new
B
It seems that this domestic-violence Gomes would have turned up in the 114 pages of genealogical speculation if he was related, wouldn’t he? With the number of people born each day, I’m sure that many unrelated people w/ the same last name also share a common birthday… Now I’m seeing “Maybe they’re twins!!”… C’mon, people, jeez!! Use a little common sense!! No, I’m not trolling, just trying to keep people on a factual path…
So, you’re gorgeous, Blink? Tell us more!
So you do read all comments, nice. Totally kidding, knock it off
You need to remember something, unless you know alot about alias’s, there is reasons some of those posts are on that site, with corresponding info that might not be on there viewable to the public. This Gomes may not be related, but he might, also. It is not factual until it is proven one way or another. YOU have not proven he is not, why dont you try your hand at that? Let’s see what kinda sleuthy resources you got, Rebel.
B
I would be a good sleuth if I had more time - Where I start to get uncomfortable is when people start saying “What if this person is really THIS person”, & then go chasing after some trail that has no basis in fact. Basing “associates” on people that have the same address is kind of far-fetched, especially if the address is a large apartment complex that’s been there for years. Do you know how many people move in & out of apartments? Someone’s name from 10 years ago might be on there along w/ a current resident, & people go “Aha!! They’re connected!!”
I don’t have a bias one way or the other, if they’re related or not. It’s just the flaws in logic that make me cringe when I read some of the post. I’m not trying to give anyone a hard time, don’t misunderstand me…
hmmpf.
Again, you dont have the facts down. Gomes is a known alias of all three Lawless brothers. Additionally, this Gomes has the exact birthdate of Gary D. Lawless, Timothy J Lawless brother. I will also add that BOTH have SS#’s that are flagged as belonging to more than one person.
B
Could somone explaian to me the possible link between GOMES, ANTHONY CHRISTOPHER and the Cantu case?
I ask becaue I would like to reseach and see if I can confirm the link. Unless of couse you already have established the link Blink
Thanks in advance
TF
To date their is no specific link from that individual to the Cantu case, nor do I believe there is one. More info here:
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net , The Sandra Cantu forum
B
Forgot to say this is an amazing site, and also my first languish is not english so please bear over with my spelling ect.
Blink, I’m not saying one way or another that you’re right or wrong… I don’t know one way or the other. All I’m disputing are the methods, like I said before. When that stuff happens, it isn’t investigating, it’s guessing.
UNTIL it is investigated I agree.
B
Hey Incredibly Gorgeous,
We have established that MH’s daughter is at the Ponderosa, or whatever, in Oregon with Grandmother Lawless. If Grandma has possesion of the boy then we should be able to conclude that he is at the ranch too. But maybe not. She may have passed him off to another family member or friend. I would think that in such a time of trauma that the family would gather together and remain close.
Another thought. If the whole rest of his family is away then grandpa Lawless may be lonely and willing to answer q’s about another child. He would probably not want to speak about Melissa given his predisposition to ignore q’s about her. Tell him you are incredibly gorgeous and he may spew some details about this hidden child.
I think I saw you once. I did not check your ID but I would bet a few dollars it was really you. You had on enormous sunglasses though so I could not pick you out of a line-up, not that I think I will need to. I reckon Mr. Blink has good taste.
If you want me to call grandpa, let me know. I am not afraid of caller ID or anything. Your collection of ass clowns and troglodytes you write about make me feel squeaky clean. And last, I have been to KoP too. Past convention. Anyway….
Note to self: One small smart ass comment will go on for days, lol. I take it back, was for yuks, I call Uncle. Uncle Red Ranger to be exact, so behave. He is a massive specimen I would not want to piss off.
Err.. source says toddler was in Oregon, but get this, Huckaby has custody of his daughter right now, pending July 6th date so the 2 state stunt did not fly. I dont know this guy, but I know Little girl Huckaby was wisked off on 3/27 or 3/28, and it was NOT preplanned; which makes this clan liars. I would want my child outta there too.
B
ps. I do not think I am Gdpa’s type
And I forgot to ask if MH’s daughter is still sickly now that MH is not giving her drugs or poison every day. I cannot prove she was but I reckon some things are increasingly easy to believe. A five year old may talk if allowed to leave the house.
Theory: Daniel Plowman is MH’s boyfriend and drug supplier. He gets HER the muscle relaxers. etc. Now he trying to get is butt out of a sling by claiming she poisoned him.
Where on earth is this little toddler boy? This case just gets creepier by the day.
You can bet the little toddler will come up in court and anything related to MH’s daughter I would think - the past husband will make sure that happens in his custody battle at least.
Since MH was seeing doctors for her mental condition - don’t you think she had her own prescriptions for muscle relaxers ? I bet the entire Lawless group are feeling extremely uncomfortable right now - especially MH.
You know what I am thinking - why in the world was Melissa smiling during her last court appearance ?
miss t. fyed,
First of all very clever name! Secondly I am in absolute agreement with u. I have nothing to justify that theory, he just looks a little on the shady side.
The only reason its “top secret” that MH has a son is because she/family has something to hide. I think we can all pretty much agree on that. The bigger question for me is why the news media covering such a high profile case like this hasn’t known about it - just the MHP maintenance man. Now thats odd.
Sacsayhuan: I agree with you that she most likely had her own prescription for Benzos. They are sometimes prescribed as a sleep aid and I’ve know a couple of people with depression that were prescribed Benzos to help them sleep. I’ll bet my last dollar that at the end of the day, we will find out that Sandra Cantu was indeed drugged just like the other two victims. And I’ll guarantee you that it will be Benzos. Thats what links all three of these victims together, imho.
I dont find it that odd that they did not uncover it, it’s my understanding there are members of Huckaby’s own extended family that dont know. However, I also have found that true “investigative reporting” in the daily news sector is lacking at best. I agree Sandra was drugged.
B
The major news media must be trolling Scared Monkeys and especially this site for info. Someone will be a good investigative reporter - but the families cannot talk - and so where do they go next ??? There must be a birth certificate - unless MH gave natural birth in the back hills in Oregon.
I wonder how many pills of what potency would kill a child ? She had to have a good blender. I do think MH was using others as human test subjects. Why would the courts say it was “poison” ? Probably enough drugs to be lethal.
Thanks SVL & Blink - got me motivated to read about Benzodiazepines !
“Benzodiazepines are also sometimes used for criminal purposes such as to rob a victim or to incapacitate a victim in cases of drug assisted rape. However, alcohol is more commonly involved than benzodiazepines in such cases.[142] Temazepam use was particularly associated with violent or disorderly behaviours and contact with the police in a 1997 study of young single homeless people in Scotland.[143]”
Main article: Benzodiazepine overdose
“Benzodiazepines taken alone rarely cause severe complications in overdose,[129] and deaths after hospital admission are rare.[130] However, combining these drugs with alcohol or opiates is particularly dangerous and may lead to coma and death.[131][132] The various benzodiazepines differ in their toxicity since they produce varying levels of sedation in overdose, with oxazepam being least toxic and least sedative and temazepam most toxic and most sedative in overdose. Temazepam is more frequently involved in drug-related deaths causing more deaths per million than other benzodiazepines in an Australian study.[133]”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine
We need a doctor, nurse, or Pharmacist among us !
-blink-
is this second child still alive? do you know?
Yes, he is
B
Blink-
I have questioned whether Sandra was drugged from the beginning.
I truly prayed she was and had no idea what was happening to her.
Do you know for sure that the additional charges of endangerment and giving a poison to a minor that were brought against MH were for the January girl or was it for Sandra? I would think that so much time has lapsed it would be very difficult to prove and only speculation for the January child.
It was for Jan child.
There are no current drugging charges for Sandra. Remember, there has not even been a plea entered in this case. For the State to charge her, they would have to divulge the autopsy is final. They would be crazy to do that without a plea on the table.
B
but so who are people thinking the toddler son’s father could be? granddad lawless … yuck!
personally, I do not
B
Can’t believe you all have the time to participate in this gossip; however, Blink, I am close close enough to the family to know that we were all together tonight and got a good laugh (much needed during these trying times) about the son that doesn’t exist and the kind of people that think they get the facts via this website!
So you say Marie, but alas, how is Danny?
Should I go on? Your kinda out there logistically for that, no? You people crack me up thinking your anonymous.
Gotta go renew my library card, be back.
B
-blink-
do you know where he is? (i don’t need to konw, but do you?)
I do, but I would feel better if confirmed by LE.
B
know, SEE What happens when you drop out of college…
Rebel #64 - let me assure you that in doing research you leave no stone unturned nor do you scoff at a theory without checking it out. If you are truly reading all of the research, then you will know that some of these people have acknowledged alias, some of whom have so many it’s a wonder they can recall their own given names. Rebel, it is called research and within that realm, possibilities are endless. I encourage you to go to the geneology site, no discussion allowed, and show where one of the “facts” listed there is incorrect. Until then, I for one will continue to work for Justice for Sandra! IMO it beats doing nothing but being a Monday morning quarterback.
man, i just get a bad feeling about all of this.
Blink-
Thanks for the info. I guess that I would conclude than that they did
find drugs in Sandra that matched what was in the January child. How else would they be able to prove that charge after this amount of time.
Blink I don’t understand if Marie is representing the Huckaby Family then how would she know “how is Danny?” unless you are speaking of other than DP? Please clarify.
The comment was to Marie, and she knows what it means, not referring to “your” Daniel Plowman.
B
I have a hard time understanding why there is no witness to date (that I’ve seen) mentioning the little boy or MH’s pregnancy. It’s not like she has no record of movement during the past 28 months. I’m especially curious about the time frame for the fires occurring near the end of July 2007. If my math is correct, she would have been well into her pregnancy by then. Yes, I concede that many pregnancies have been hidden, but MH appears rather petite in most older pictures, and I think 6 months pregnant with your second child (2nd pregnancy usually shows faster and more pronounced) would be noticeable to others. Especially to people outside of her family that were paying special attention to her because of the suspicious circumstances surrounding the 2 fires. Not to mention that she was not living alone, but rather boarding with other women. I’ve read a few interviews with the woman who was supposedly her friend at the house, and she never mentions anything about a pregnancy.
Thoughts Blink?
My own opinion and a large dose of speculation her: My gut on the child is that the mystery surrounding him lies less with his possible mental/physical issues, and more with the families concerns about MHs “fitness” to care for him. Maybe MH suffered PPD and became cold toward the child? Possibly making attempts to harm him while suffering from psychosis? This could explain why she has the older child and not the younger- her delusions may have centered around harming the baby as many other cases have shown. The identity of his Father, and the circumstances of the conception, could have also triggered an inability for MH to bond with the baby.
I wouldn’t put it past the tight knit Lawless clan to try and deal with the problem within the family as opposed to involving the authorities about a child at risk. Maybe they felt they would keep him safe while MH got her life in order and stabilized with medication under the supervision of the Grandparents? If she suffered from PPD or PPP, that would explain a lot of her recent depression issues. I’m no Doctor, but I would imagine if she was already experiencing bouts of depression along with delusions relating to a mental disorder, she would be more than a little angered at the family taking the baby away.
Could the rage that led to this final brutal senseless act , have been festering in MH as she realized (real or imagined) that she was hopelessly at the mercy of her own family and the sense of helplessness that they could just take her own child from her? Or worse, was she intent on harming the child (send him to heaven for salvation, anti-christ kinda thing from other PPD PPP cases?)
Their involvement in so many aspects of her adult life from relationships, to where she lived and how she raised her children leads me to believe that she was extremely dependent on them psychologically. Throw in an unhealthy dose of low self-esteem and a fear that it was either the Family that was going to control her life and children, or the threat of CPS taking her children and sending her to a mental hospital or jail, and you have a person falling into deep depths of hopelessness and a deep need to be empowered by something.
Thoughts?
Does the little boy have a name? Was he born in a hospital ? I have a friend who ran a marathon when she was 7 months pregnant. She had a little pooch, but I would question that she was pregnant. She had a healthy feisty little boy 2 months later.
He does Sac, and I am not disclosing publicly.
B
Sister - #84
I have no problem w/ people doing research. I just don’t like seeing some wacky conclusions drawn based on flawed research. The genealogy thread - Looks like long lists of names, w/ no linear connections made. And again, if the TL family & the MH family share a common ancestor in the 1860’s, what significance does that have? None.
This drove me batty because I KNEW I had read she had two kids.
https://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_12119398?source%253Dmost_viewed.20F88DA3D7D369F5BB70F372987EAE1F.html
This article was originally printed on 4/11 then many papers changed it on 4/13 for some reason.
Here’s the change:
http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/ci_12119398
Sorry if this is repeat, I read through most of the comments, but went searching for that original article I had read back on 4/11.
Blink - ok ty for the clarification. I was a little confused on that!
But also if you say “your” Daniel Plowman then how many Daniel Plowman’s are we referring to?
I didnt, I said Danny.
B
OK, after this I will shut my pie-hole. Right now there’s a great example of conclusion-jumping run amok on the SMF genealogy thread:
They’re all excited about someone named Robertson. Why??
a) The Washington minister was named Roberson, not Robertson.
b) The Roberson’s were cleared, & paid a large sum of money in a civil suit for defamation, due to some overzealous civil servant.
So why are they getting all excited, when clearly these people have no connection to any of the Lawless families?
I’m sure gorgeous Blink will call me a troll, but such rampant ignorance annoys me.
Rebel- chill.
I think the only person getting excited is you. “Run amuk” to me is not one person with an honest spelling error on a post that nobody responded to AND this thread has me on record several times saying I do not think they are connected. THAT SAID, the Harris family does.. Care to see if you can sleuth it out? It will help you pass the time while your shutting your pie hole. MMMMMUUUUAAAAHHHH.
B
Marie Scroggs wrote:
“I am close close enough to the family to know that we were all together tonight and got a good laugh.”
Yeah Marie this is a REAL funny story. Sandra was raped and murdered, put in a suitcase, and left in a filthy dairy pond. Jeez - I bet you guys just couldn’t stop laughing!
The world is full of creeps and (pardon me Blink, I know we supposed to be civil) you are just one more.
I am referring to the “your” part not the Danny part what are you implying when you say “your”?
You said your the mother of his kids, that’s all
B
So, perhaps MH’s son is named Danny . . . perhaps named after her ‘friend’, Daniel Plowman . . . or could he perhaps be the kid’s father? MH harbors intense rage against him because of the pregnancy? Because he abandoned her? Because he raped her? Thus the drugging? Thus why her son is not in her care?
Lots of way out of the box speculations/ideas . . . but this is a very very bizarre, unusual case.
-blink-
anything more on this yet? the whole mh situation is starting to sound like a made for tv movie gone bad.
Hey Blink-
Hope all is Okay.
Ty, as good as it can be with what is going on- even I am shaken at moments.
Hope all is ok with sweetpea. Your “hat” name holds a very special place in my heart
B
Blink-
Earliar you said that you knew where the grandmother was staying in Oregon. One of the posts indicated that they where staying at the Ponderosa Ranch, I am not familiar with that ranch. However, I am familiar with the Tall Timber Ranch would that be one in the same. Or is it neither.
Neither.
Grants Pass
B
Thanks Blink-
Things seemed a bit out of sorts. You are a strong woman with a big heart. Bitter sweet combo at times, I am sure.
Yes friend. But I always remember it is a welcome struggle compared to those without a voice. Well, I try to
B
Tams #97 - MH’s son’s name is NOT Danny….
Rebel, do you speed read? There has been no muck-running in hundreds of pages of “research” unless you read every other line. Then it would be a little mucky. Researchers don’t get excited until the facts have been confirmed from more than one source. Theories are just that, mirky places to try and begin to get out of the muck. The family trees are just a portion of fact finding. When it is posted, it is to help rather than hinder research. Here’s a little research for you to un-muck — Timothy Lawless aka Timothy Gomes’ mother Marylin Elizabeth nee Tieken married Gary D. Lawless twice on the same day — once with the last name of Tieken and once with the last name of Short. Now that is what I call mucked-up! But alas, I’m not excited, but it sure is a puzzlement.
Excellent description of research, in this case, being preformed publicly.
B
B -
The only way the DA would consider adding the three charges is if there was either clear and distinct physical evidence linking her to each charge or she admitted to all three. Why would her PD allow her to admit to anything at this point?
She is facing the death penalty squarely in the eye - and she is continuing to help the DA build the case against her. Somewhere I read prosecutors will over reach in a case like this to get the defendant to “fess-up” but this is bordering the ridiculous.
Ever since Sandra was found she and/or family has made sure we know that all things point to MH. From her swallowing the razors, to her admission about the suitcase, the Janury incident, her familiarity with that stretch of road, the note(s), she has made the case against herself. All LE has had to do is sit back and take dictation.
Now you drop this rather intriguing tidbit - and it is a long time associate/connection/friend of the family who is lifting this corner of the Lawless tent. Again, why?
When you consider the evidence that has been divulged to the public through the media (or to you for that matter)- almost all of it has in one way or another come from MH, or family or sources closely linked to the family. Why?
About the only significant pieces of info, I can recall coming from LE, since the gag was placed, was that they were confident that she alone committed the crime, and they found child porn on some computers in the mobile home park.
B - are we being led down the path of no other alternatives? From the start, things just havent meshed well with this story and new developments only make her and the case even more outlandish.
I cant be the only one who is feeling queezy…
Ralien I am not sure I understand the point your making exactly- I dont want to make assumptions, tia
B
Why would publications edit from children to child? Was it censored at the request of the investigation or by a member of the Lawless family? Certainly the police must know that she had 2 children and I see no reason for them to request the newspaper’s help hiding the boy from the public. If her family wielded the clout to alter printed quotes then it had to be for a compelling reason.
Something about censoring the truth to the degree of altering published quotes is unsettling to those who only want justice based on true facts.
Blink I am thankful that you are providing a venue for those not satisfied with the pretty little packages of filtered crumbs thrown together by the talking heads.
# 97 lots of speculation there. It seems far fetched for some one who claims she was raped to name the child after the raper.
Blink I found this…didn’t want to post unless it was “true”. Can you verify this?…Thanks! Delete if you want.
Garbage. Utter Rubbish. Its a scam news site.
B
Thank you. I had a feeling it was.
-blink-
does this son have any developmental problems? i have to agree with post 105. i don’t understand why the press and the police would just ‘forget’ that she has another child. maybe they confirmed that he is/was a victim as well?
Not that I am aware of.
B
you are not aware of what?
he has developmental issues?
is /was victim as well..
i’m really not trying to be a hublot…
-Blink-
(deleted link)
Really?
No, and can we stop posting links to that garbage here please? I dont want to read it anymore. Not being rude, it’s just made up crap that is hurtful to the family. Mr. Cantu’s daughter was viciously raped and murdered, does he have to hear quotes somebody made up on top of it?
B
Coolio-
How do you know MH’s son’s name isn’t Danny?
Could he be a result of the rape she accused the police officer of?
No, he’s under 2 years old.
B
I believe Blink on Post 111. Do you think the family members will be called upon to take the stand during the court hearings ? That will be bad enough -
I am still of the opinion there is a plea deal in the works.
B
-Blink-
not trin’ to get on your bad side…what i had referenced was that 2 other men in the trailer park had been issued warrants and their homes searched. what i was trying to post had no quotes, i was just wondering if it were true…are they still rounding up folks at the trailer park? i do realize that that site had put out misleading quotes, but thats not what i was wondering about. i have many issues with this case and if mh acted alone, i want to know. if evil was spread throughout the entire area, i want to know.
Blink & Company,
I’m sad to report, but there is another big child porn bust in Florida. The video link is below:
http://www.theledger.com/
Its on the video entitled “Child Porn Bust”.
I read about this the other day, WATCH THE VIDEO PEOPLE! 80% of posessors of child porn HAVE ABUSED A CHILD SEXUALLY. The other 20% fantasize about it and will act out if given the opportunity.
B
The vidio is a real eye opener! These people are really sick. Teaching people how to have sex with a child between birth and whatever age. Thank heaven the people who are watching this garbage are being arrested. Next they would be acting on their fantacies on some poor child victim.
Blink,
Can you look at this “petition” and see if it’s legit and worth signing? If it is, I would like to send it to as many as possible to get some type of action started.
Thank you!
http://www.petitiononline.com/60364243/petition.html
I’ll be honest, at no time will I sign or sponsor a petition that is not drafted by and submitted by an attorney with Federal Court credentials.
B
Some people will say and do anything to sound credible. Melissa has NO son. She has two brothers, a much younger sister and ONE daughter. And, no - I do not know any Danny. If Melissa is guilty, and the courts will decide, we all hope the punishment fits the crime. However, she is a 28 year old who makes her own choices - to unfairly criticize her parents is judgmental and unfair.
Got it, you showing up here with same song and no proof is not helping, do you think y’all are smarter than others?
Seriously?
B
Marie Scroggs-
I am curious as to your sources regarding your statments. Are you a close and personal friend to the lawless family or are you simply inserting your opinion?
to Marie Scroggs-
I can understand that a person is innocent until proven guilty, but what about MH’s statement that Sandra’s death was an accident, the letter MH “found” saying where Sandra was (with “suitcase” mispelled), evidence in the church (Danny Cantu stated a mattress was found with Sandra’s DNA) combined with the “stolen suitcase” story, swallowing exacto knife blades (how did MH explain that and how did she get to/from the hospital), etc, etc. These facts are just what’s in the news - a court will fill in blanks and tie it all together. How can anyone think MH is innocent after she basically admitted to being there when Sandra died (being an “accident” just says MH didn’t mean for it to happen, but it doesn’t remove responsibility).
Blink,
Isn’t TL due in court today?
YEP
8:30am PST
B
Hello Blink,
Just Catching up on the comments in Tracy’s case, and noted the explanations for what “88″ represents.
I had noted the 8888 and 88 in both MH’s Myspace title and her Father’s Myspace title, respectively, and had always wondered why the numbers were picked and if there was a link between the two.
Do you think there is a similar intention behind MH Family’s usage of the number 8? On top of everything else, could the Family/Church have ties to White Supramacism? Sheesh.
My apologies if this has already been discussed. Make way for the slow one! LOL
TIA
no the 88 in ref to MH case, is her dad, who is a pianist, there are 88 keys on the piano.
B
Blink,
Regarding the petition, do you know if there is one out there now? And if so can you post the link? If not, can you suggest how one can get one started. (that is one being…drafted by and submitted by an attorney with Federal Court credentials)?
Thanks
Amber we are in the infant stages of that, they take a very long time and honestly, the content of which will somewhat depend on the outcome if this case. I would say we are about 3 months out of a formalized first draft. I will keep all updated here on the matter, I promise.
B
Re: petition…Thank you!
on another note…regarding the “Tracy 60″ (at that time). Have there been any arrests? And if not, why wouldn’t there be at this point?
Was MH in court today? How did that go?
Blink, just to let you know, I’m taking a week off from the research. They are doing an awesome job. I am confident it will all come together and will help in JUSTICE for SANDRA and I believe others as well.
I love to do research, however, when my thinking becomes clouded/emotional, then I’m not researching, I’m a vigalante IMO. So I need to step back, clear my ole brain, and return with a clear head, and open eyes.
Keep up the good work. The Lord is on our side!!
My dear sister-
I trust you to do what you need. Please be well and replenished.
Fondly,
B
KCRA in Sacramento is reporting:
Prosecutor Wants Huckaby To Enter Plea
http://www.kcra.com/news/19712001/detail.html
Also, from the Tracy Press:
Prosecutor asks judge to move Huckaby case along
http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?hash=comments_2686137&page_label=home&article-Prosecutor%20asks%20judge%20to%20move%20Huckaby%20case%20along%20=&id=2686137&widget=push&open=&#comments_2686137
couldn’t stay away — made some new threads. When it’s important, it’s important — we are the voices for these children.
Bless you for that Sister, I’m so proud of the way Monkeys carry on for each other, in the name of justice, in this case for Sunny Sandra.
B
It seems that this case came to a screeching halt the moment that MH obtained counsel. No plea yet does smell of a deal in the works, but I am skeptical as to that supposition, since so much time has passed since her arrest. It may be that the investigation into those implicated by whatever info being divulged as part of the deal is still underway.
The recent development, of the prosecution looking to have the judge enter a plea, if the defendant (and her counsel) will not, doesn’t support the idea of a deal in the works. It does sound like a possible deal not working out.
No arrest of the Lawlesses, no other arrests? Nothing? It’s awfully quiet re this case.
I remain confident there will be another arrest in this case, but your right, I think the fact that there has not been a plea entered means talks with Huckaby have stalled. The broad gag order does keep things on the dl as well.
B
Hey all, I have been out of town and just caught up on reading the posts. It seems like the MH case and Lawless case are moving slowly and little information available. Shall we take bets on what MH is going to plea ? I think NOT GUILTY.
On KCRA 3today is says : Meanwhile, Huckaby’s grandparents, pastor Lane Lawless and wife Connie, are seeking custody of Cameron,
Could this be the missing son?
The article says daughter (which we all know is Madison) but here the name Cameron is mentioned! Could this be who everyone has been looking for?
LOL
She has a son? Really? Well I’ll Be!
B
This article http://www.kcra.com/news/19730133/detail.html says “Meanwhile, Huckaby’s grandparents, pastor Lane Lawless and wife Connie, are seeking custody of Cameron, Huckaby’s daughter. So is the girl’s father, Johnny Huckaby, who has little contact with his daughter.” Is this really poor reporting or does she have a child named Cameron staying with the grandparents? Always more question than answers!
Can you confirm that this is the toddler son you have spoken about?
You will never here my post that childs name-
B
Case Of 2 Huckabys May Go To Court
Manteca Woman Mistakenly Identified By Some Media As Slaying Suspect
“STOCKTON, Calif. — Stockton attorney Al Ellis is preparing a lawsuit against media outlets that identified his client, Melissa Huckaby, by name and photo as the woman who was arrested by Tracy police in the slaying of 8-year-old Sandra Cantu.
However, in this case, there are two women named Melissa Huckaby and both share a number of unfortunate similarities — and not just their names.
Both are from the Tracy area, both have 5-year-old daughters, both are divorced, both are Sunday school teachers and both are 28 years old.”
http://www.kcra.com/news/19727797/detail.html
AS SHE SHOULD. I know it never appeared here, and I was appalled when it was allowed to be posted elsewhere. This is exactly what I have been saying. People can delete crap all they want, it does not unring the bell.
B
I am not able to contact my CA buddies. Does anyone know if this MH court appearance is closed or open ?
http://www.stocktoncourt.org/courts/media_notice.htm
http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=61043&catid=2
New news from scared monkies.
Huckaby Enters ‘Not Guilty’ Plea
http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=61043&catid=2
There is a woman (VANESSA GEORGE) on trial behind glass in the UK as we speak - NOW - for raping several months old BABIES. So folks who can’t wrap their heads around MH - get a grip, it’s done seemingly every day by ghouls to whom this is the norm, as this behavior is taught, it’s GENERATIONAL.
Anyone else think this is generationa? A dastardly meme in our society protected by fat cat politicos who want a protected supply cheap “sexual specialty items”? WIth drugs running so prevalent, who’s to say this pervert herself wasn’t drugged at 18 and done as she is alleged to have done to poor Sandra by her own mother. Yes. JUDY. Or her father. Or grandmother. Or grandfather. Or all of them. I’d believe ANYTHING of that bunch, they do not convince me or anyone I know they are not in on this. I’d believe they are capable of anything by their own behavior on TV.
I would believe video was taken. I would believe that they cut out the victim’s organs and ate it for their Easter Sunday celebrations at the church Sandra is alleged to have been murdered in. I’d believe ANYTHING of that Tracy church at this point. NOTHING will surprise me, about them, or those who protect them. Or Tracy for that matter.
I’ve just about had it with the system - go read the 2000 vintage book “The epidemic of rape and child sexual abuse in the United States” By Diana E. H. Russell, Rebecca Morris Bolen - it’s sickening the way LE twists the real stats and the rality of child rape in the US. It’s time to stop it, and what will stop it? None of this smarmy trial lawyer BS. Anyone who ever said an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind never took out the eye of just one - the CHIEF PEDOPHILE.
While I was waiting for the plea, I watched CONSPIRACY THEROY with Julia Roberts & Mel Gibson. Great choice - made me real relaxed !!
Here we go. I do not think they are shoving this under the rug to let MH off. The system will work - whatever is going on - we will find out.
Children problems are going on everyday in every community. What do you want to do, drag MH to the gallows ? When a group of people get together, it’s happened in the past. Let her tell her story.
Who out there thinks the US epidemic of child rape and torture - documented by experts - is conspiracy theory?
The ONLY reason this SILENT epidemic persists - and enable people to actually think what MH did is something NO WOMAN EVER DOES - is our colelctive heads are forceably shoved by a dumbing down media into the sands - so much that a relatively common crime such as this is made out to be “UNBELIEVABLE”.
Quaint, feigned ignorance doesn’t work when children’s lives are destroyed every day. THe 9 y.o girl pimped by her office working father - who could be your colleague - is routine, according to the FBI. The only reason the stream of horrific Sandra Cantu cases exist is that so many actually do think what happened to her is RARE, and that makes them part of the problem in the US.
At least in the UK situation people acted like real people vis a vis VANESSA GEORGE - showing their outrage in a way that let the whole world know what they thought of such. Where was this outrage in Tracy? Not good enough IMO.
So, in the US, we find many among the masses think of this child’s sexual torture and murder as “let’s sit back and watch TV and see what the alleged perp has to say.” Alleged perp MH already admitted the murder. “An accident” What more is needed to show outrage? Oh wait - this is the US - we haven’t had the full scale perverted sex TV circus yet. Never mind. What WAS I thinking.
I am sorry Anna, that you are outraged. Tracy citizens know how they think; know what they are doing and they are right there in the middle of it. You do know that the Judges and the DA have to run for office again.
Yes, I know how you feel about what is going on out there. How do you know MH acted on her own ? She said “NOT GUILTY”. If the offense proves she is GUILTY, Adios MH. Very serious for MH.
I feel there is something else here. MH is absolutely involved and she will pay for what she has done - but let’s not let the rest of the perps go without paying - and if there are none, MH is on her own.
I read as many books, articles, as I watch a movie.
Why do people think that MH did this type of murder because she was sexually abused? C’MON!….It’s possible that she has a mental illness, drug addiction or some combination. Stop being brainwashed like a bunchof sheep by the you-know-who psychratric/psychological cabal in this country…Some people are just defective..Look at Ted Bundy..sterling childhood
After reading the comments, the question I am asking myself is this “What am I going to do about it?” not the government, not LE, not the person next door, not social services, not the church, not the whatever or whoever — but what am “I” (as in me, myself, and I) going to do about it? Discussing it on blogs and other places is good, but damn it, it begs the question and circles around the elephant in the room. “What am “I” going to do about it?” Step One for me — I am writing to my legislators and demanding stiffer penalities for child abusers, including no bail for the perverts. I will be as busy as a one armed paper hanger, relentless. Step Two, I am volunteering to be a child advocate in my county. Step Three, I am going to provide so much information to every parent I know to raise their awareness of predators in our very community, they will swear I own a paper mill. Step Four, I will no longer be afraid to get involved when I see/suspect children are being harmed. For the first time in my life I am going to become addicted — I am going to be addicted to fighting for children and their safety.
So fellow Blinkers, what are you going to do?
Interesting how you quit posting my comments when you are exposed for not being factual.
Last night, I was convinced that the reason we have so many children being killed was because children are a burden to the parents in today’s society.
Well this morning - I found out, Wecht is involved in David Carradine’s autopsy - it’s in the Globe - and I do not want anyone to buy this trash. Blink - tell me about this.
“Famed forensic pathologist Dr. Cyril Wecht, author of a Question of Murder, notes the scene of the crime would lead people to believe that Carradine, known to enjoy kinky sex, was practicing “erotic asphyxiation.”
Im not sure I understand the connection to children’s deaths Sac- can you be more specific, Tia
B
I don’t feel that looking at the forces that caused people to become abusers or murderers has any bearing on responsibility. I think it is entirely possible to look at what happened to a person to cause them to commit an act like this and LEARN FROM IT and at the same time STILL HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. In fact, I think that to be responsible, we need to do both.
Research is showing that infants who are prevented from forming a trusting bond with their primary caretaker are at high risk for becoming sociopaths. We can use this information to educate young mothers and give CPS the motivation to get involved and DO SOMETHING sooner when children are at risk. This doesn’t mean that sociopaths get to commit crimes because they were damaged in infancy! I don’t know why people feel that trying to understand and learn from what has happened must equate with letting the criminal off the hook. Maybe I am unusual but I have no problem seeing both.
There are also cases where a person is truly mentally ill and commits a crime because they are lost in a world of unreality. I personally feel this should be taken into account- at their sentencing. Prison is not as appropriate as a mental institution; either way, society’s protection needs to come first.
Just my opinions…
Anyway, what are your thoughts on MH’s not guilty plea, Blink?
Yes, make no mistake, understanding the psychology and physiology of a POI in the instance of a missing person, is paramount.
Let me put it this way, just because I will analyze every angle of a case, good or bad, does not mean at the end of the day I would not HESITATE to flip the switch on a guilty party, that is of no concern for me. I want to find these ladies. I want their families to have a chance to restore their legacy in their hearts. There is something altered in the Universe when a person is “out there” ( I am being intentionally vague out of respect.)
B
Bluewillow - smart thinking !
nitety
I know I’ve been asking what can I do to help. Well I still haven’t found much out there but did come acorss this link on oprah.com. Just thought I’d share it, might not seem like much but every little bit helps.
http://www.oprah.com/article/oprahshow/20090220-tows-adam-walsh-act
““What am “I” going to do about it?” Step One for me — I am writing to my legislators and demanding stiffer penalities for child abusers, including no bail for the perverts.”
IMO those are band-aid approaches.
The BEST thing to do is to work at building safer communities. We do this by lowering the divorce rate, lowering the illegitimacy rate, encouraging extended families under one roof, encouraging neighbors to be more friendly with each other, encouraging a less mobile society etc.
We can even do this via better urban planning…getting back to more livable spaces including mixed-use areas, central squares, shops offering everyday needs within walking distance etc.
American society is suffering from a loss of connection caused by things such as…the automobile, suburban sprawl, people moving frequently etc.
I’m getting nervous about Dr.Cyril Wecht. His autopsy report makes the entire case. When is the next court date ? I am brainstorming on how the defense will argue his points. He must have some strong information to have MH plea Not Guilty.
Forget Wecht. He did not do the autopsy. Just found this at scaredmonkies: http://www.kron.com/News/ArticleView/tabid/298/smid/1126/ArticleID/1174/reftab/36/t/Defense-Attacks-Credibility-of-Pathologist-in-Sandra-Cantu-Case/Default.aspx
You all have to check this out: Maine Mom Nabbed in International Child Porn Sting
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4883.new#new
The questions I have: How do the child porn producers get paid ? How do the viewers find child porn web sites ? I don’t think one would just google child porn and find a list of sites. It has to be a network of individuals.
Re: #157 What a disheartening story… sheesh, the mom looks like one of those “faces of meth”…
She does look a little desperate and bored.
Hey Marie Scumbag - do ya get the hint from Blink (and all of us who love her on this site) that you are just not wanted here? Gooooooooood.
Sister, what an awesome post, glad you couldn’t “stay away” for long, as I enjoy all of them, but sincerely this one makes me want to get really enthusiastic about doing something and joining you in your mission - thanks!!
Bottom, I appreciate the support but can I ask you a favor? I dont allow name-calling in an effort to keep everyone track about the subject matter. The ole attack the post not the poster philosophy. I am really tempted to let my gift for the snark fly sometimes ( I say that and no doubt y’all could probably point it out on my own site, lol) but I have learned it really does keep everyone civil and focused. In Sandra’s case, there is alot less information out, and that will be coming out prior to trial especially. TIA
B
Blink–favor granted, my bad, and I do apologize for the name-calling, I was just so mad at the remarks that I wasn’t thinking straight, that happens to me sometimes lol - I am kind of defensive re people I admire and took offense to her attack..sorry.
No need to apologize, it happens.
B
SOMETIMES I’m not thinking straight? as in just now? This is bottomline–think I’ll stick to just reading for awhile!
All is quiet on the water front. The reporters have finally stopped calling for now! Guess we will see what happens in Sept..
Recordnet.com is reporting:
A secret grand jury is expected to convene this month to decide if Tracy’s Melissa Huckaby should stand trial in open court on charges she kidnapped, raped and murdered 8-year-old Sandra Cantu.
The grand jury proceeding would take the place of Huckaby’s preliminary hearing set for Sept. 24. It also threatens to keep from the public key facts of the case — like Huckaby’s alleged motive and how Sandra was killed — until the jury trial.
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090702/A_NEWS/90702013/-1/rss02
Okay, so I’m a day late (or more) and a dollar short on this. I’ve been offline for a bit in reading about this case. It does become overwhelming and I needed a break. However…………..
I’m catching up on posts and come across the post from Anna (#141) and I have to say - being a resident of Tracy for the past 8+ years and also having an 8 year old, that Anna doesn’t have a CLUE how the city of Tracy is handling this tragedy or how much outrage there has been!!!!!!! If you don’t live here, and based on your comments, you don’t, then why go out of your way to attack the City of Tracy or it’s residents?? YOU have NO IDEA what this has done to our once tranquil city or to the parents in the midst of this awful situation. It doesn’t go away……..It still hurts and I imagine it always will. I get what your trying to say in the rest of your post but it means nothing to me when you surround it with other ridiculous comments.
SISTER - You are on the mark! Loved your post! I’ve come to realize myself that LE, local agencies, Mayors, Governors, etc aren’t going to make the changes overnight. WE have to help make those changes individually. I will say protecting your children and your neighbors children and even a strangers child is a good first step. Tracy is a lot more aware - that much I can tell you………..
http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story/push?article-DA+offers+settlement+in+Hagelston+case%20&id=2892375-DA+offers+settlement+in+Hagelston+case&instance=home_news_bullets
MANTECA — The district attorney has offered a settlement to a former Tracy girls softball coach accused of possessing child pornography, the defendant’s attorney said today…
Melissa lost custody of her daughter to her ex-husband. What about her 2nd child ?
He was not his child.
B
So, when is the custody hearing then? Will it be in an imaginary court, since there seems to be an imaginary child?
Calm down B, just teasing you…
Nope, I can take it Rebel, why would there be a custody hearing, she gave custody away a long time ago, thus, no need. He is very real and very well I understand.
B
So Judy Lawless has the son? I had to look back at the original article, that’s what it says. Why has nobody noticed?
Your assuming they haven’t Rebel. They have.
B
I’m surprised the local tabloid-TV stations around here (channel 13 comes to mind) haven’t been all over it. They usually take any minor story & try to sensationalize it into an epic drama, so it surprises me they haven’t jumped on this if it’s true.
There is a very broad gag order on this case. I know they dug a little, but not very far.
B
I have meant no disrespect to you, Blink. I honestly appreciate all you do to fight crime in our society. We need advocates like you. I’m just baffled with the continual news about the son that doesn’t exist. I was in court Monday for the custody hearing. MH has truly never had a son - brothers, cousins….no son. Keep up the good work. Maria
Thank you Maria, but I P R O M I S E she does.
B
Johnny, the father, has a toddler son by his new wife - I saw Melissa weekly from the time Madison was born until she moved to Tracy last fall - no son was born. Sorry. Maria
See, that’s how I know your FOS, she did not move to Tracy last Fall. Move on already.
B
Marie-
TOLD
I know exactly when Melissa moved in with her grandparents and I know now by your language and demeanor that you are not the kind of person I thought you were. Time will tell how wrong you are about this. How well do you know this family, Blink? How much personal contact have you had with them?
WHAT? Because your wrong and I am correct? Exactly how does one formulate another’s demeanor from a crime blog or a comment. If your so insistent I am incorrect, why bother coming back here and wasting your time. I am NOT the only person that confirmed this if you were so inclined to verify same. You dont think it extremely odd that you adress not what a monster Melissa Huckaby is but whether or not she has a toddler. There is a raped and murdered 8 year old named Sandra Cantru you “glommer” , this isn’t a game of who’s who and who knows who better, wth?
B
I am curious to know,now that Marie has defined her relationship with Melissa Huckaby as having exact knowledge of her locations.Inferring a long standing personal contact as well with Melissa and family so….. tell me this..
Then why is Sandra Cantu dead?Why did not Marie and others not report MH’s obvious criminal behavior,fires, theft and her relationship s with pedophiles and other long time criminals .
A lot of people in that Mobile home park knew of the druggings and the unsavory people she kept company with.And many immediately pointed LE in MH’s direction.
Where were you Marie?And What in the name of God has been going on in that church?And all that the Cantus have is MH’s NOT GUILTY PLEA….
God help any one who goes along with that one.
I have NEVER defended Melissa - I have only asked that the truth be told. The press and investigator wanna be, so called crime fighters like Blink, get the facts all wrong and it amazes me that they find it defensible.
Lady you have no idea my or anyone else’s credentials and go fly a kite already. *Yawn*
B
KCRA is reporting this morning:
Newspaper, Others Wiretapped In Cantu Case
http://www.kcra.com/news/20050487/detail.html
Yep, pretty much everyone from 4-8 until 4-13. Here’s something to think about- if they were so sure she acted alone, why was that necessary? She was arrested on 4/10.
B
So grandma Lawless has said she has yet to see ANY solid evidence against her granddaughter…….How PATHETIC this unseemly crew is.
Go take a look at what was inside YOUR granddaughters suitcase…the DA has the photos.
On with the trial.
LOCATIONS FOR JUDY LAWLESS:
1 Address in Cypress, CA
1 Address in Westminster, CA
1 Address in La Habra, CA
RELATIVES OF JUDY LAWLESS:
Adam Lawless
Clifford Lawless
Connie Lawless
Melissa Lawless
+ 1 More Relative
RELATIVES OF JUDY LAWLESS:
Brian Lawless
Adam Lawless
Caleb Lawless
Melissa Lawless
Can anyone tell me how Adam , Brian and Caleb Lawless are related to Melissa ?
Mizfitz- there is an entire forum on sm dedicated to that, http://www.scaredmonkeys.net
B
Just to help clear up when Melissa moved to Tracy, she moved here last summer.
Thank you Silent, I am aware as are the readers, it was the commentor that was “off”.
B
Awe I see. I will never forget when MH came into my life. It has been Drama ever since. My children and I will forever fill the effects of MH. I have so much I would love to say but thanks to the gag order I have to remain the “Silent one” FOR NOW
That gag order does not apply to you, AND, does not extend to anything other than the case against her re: Sandra Cantu.
B
oh it applies to me!
Ok Silent ,I’ll keep checking in from time to time.When your ready to post….I’m ready to read.
This case has been mind boggling to me.From the beginning I though,”no way”!. Why would a woman suddenly murder her daughter’s close playmate. Yes, thsi woman has a history of instability but that doesn’t make her a killer. I can only imagine all the baggage that would come up about my life if I was ever on trial, God forbid. The thought of a child being hurt pains me. It is hard for me to develop a theory seeing that there is a gag order and little evidence to go by at this point. If Melissa Huckaby is a murderer, she is obviously an extremely sick murderer and not a “text book” killer. Is she a sadistic killer? Is she covering up for someone? Was it an accident and she panicked? Or is this poor woman innocent and her life being ruined by a hastiness to solve the case? Either theory is scary. If she is innocent it would be horrible that her life is being ruined and at the same time the true killer is still out there…..I really wish they released more evidence so I could form more of an opinion. The suitcase being hers is not enough evidence for me. Shetruly could have left it outside and it was stolen. It is common for items to be taken that are left outside. Also, there are many scary pedophiles who reside in the area. One of them could have grabbed Sandra along with the suitcase. Also, I don’t believe this b.s. about the past abduction/drugging. First of all, why in the world did the police not even name her in the police report in the first place? I feel they are just pushing for extra evidence and I hope I’m wrong and an innocent women isn’t being framed. Second of all, the child who was supposedly abducted with drugs in her system was left home alone by her addict mother. The whole scenario is sketch to me…..This is not a cut and dry case like the Anthony murder where you know that monster mom is guilty of murder or atleast an accessory. The simple fact that she just never reported her toddler missing points all fingers at her.
As far as Melissa Huckaby’s searches on the computer, how do we know she was the one actually using it at the time. Also, I’m not sure ofher guilt by that. If someone went on my hard drive, they would find tons of searches for child abuse, etc. cases. But that is out of curiosity why people do the things they do, prevention, awareness, and concern. I guess we just have to wait till trial or do we have to wait until the trial is over? Honestly , it is smart they are issuing a gag order beforehand so she is more likely to get a fair trial based on facts, hopefull, and not speculation.
Larissa,
Your post is interesting to me on many levels……So,are you from the area of Tracy?No doubt innocent people have gone to prison before.
So what is it about this case so far that causes you to question that FBI and LE possibly have this all wrong?
I do agree that there are quite a few nefarious characters within that MHP.And the Lawless’ should know their own granddaughter kept company with some of them .They also employed a man who both he and his wife have long rap sheets.They need to look no further than themselves for the boat they are in now.
Their church ,their suitcase, their granddaughter ,her note,her daughters playmate,her interview with the newspaper and the interview with police,etc ,etc, etc….
Now were there others who knew of her activities and participated? At this point I’d say I’m leaning in that direction. This case has become so intense that a judge seals an autopsy and more arrests have been made that possibly include some of the Tracy 60.Right after this tragedy took place
I would’nt underestimate what the authorities are doing right now.As you have said Larissa we don’t have ALL the facts ,but FBI and LE do, so I’m putting my faith in them to get this right.
And if you do live in Tracy, Im praying that LE will put what most consider the worst of the worst, behind bars… no matter it be woman or man. Friend or relative, teacher, preacher or anyone who hides behind a facade of any kind. And that the town will be a little safer for children.Good Luck to you,RG
185 should read HER (Melissa’s suitcase).
From recordnet.com
A secret grand jury began meeting today to hear evidence in the case of Tracy’s Melissa Huckaby, the Sunday school teacher accused in the kidnapping, rape and murder of 8-year-old Sandra Cantu.
The hearing is scheduled to last two weeks. In the end, the grand jury will decide if Huckaby, 28, should stand trial on the charges in open court.
Patiently waiting for outcome of the GJ.I am wondering if the trial is still to be in Sept.I susspect it go be moved to a later date like C.Anthony.
From recordnet.com
A criminal grand jury concluded its deliberations Friday afternoon in the case of Melissa Huckaby, a Tracy woman accused in the kidnapping, rape and murder of 8-year-old Sandra Cantu.
The grand jury’s decision to indict her - or not - will remain secret unless Huckaby, 28, is brought back to court for arraignment. The indictment would take the place of charges San Joaquin County prosecutors filed against her after her April 10 arrest.
From tracypress.com
Another hearing has been scheduled for next week in the case against the Tracy woman accused of killing 8-year-old Sandra Cantu.
A judge originally ordered Melissa Huckaby back in court in mid-September. A secret two-week-long grand jury hearing recently ended, and prosecutors moved up the date to 1 p.m. on Monday in Department 35 of the San Joaquin County Superior Court in Stockton.
Thank you Silent for giving an update….will be looking forward to when you can be silent no more.Take Care,RG
From KCRA.com:
A hearing is scheduled today for the woman accused of killing 8-year-old Tracy resident Sandra Cantu.
Former Sunday school teacher Melissa Huckaby is set to appear in court this afternoon.
From Kron.com
KRON 4’s Terisa Estacio is confirming that Melissa Huckaby, the woman accused of killing and raping her 8-year-old neighbor, has been indicted on five counts.
Very Good News….moving forward. I’m waiting to see who may have contributed to little Sandras death. thanks silent
The woman charged with the kidnapping, rape and murder of a Tracy girl last March was indicted in San Joaquin County Superior Court Monday with what appeared to be injuries to her forehead.
Although a gag order prohibits court personnel from commenting on the case, prosecutor Thomas Testa implied in court the scratches were self-inflicted to help Huckaby avoid her court appearance.
The San Joaquin County grand jury indicted Huckaby on five counts: murder with the allegation of kidnapping; sex with a child 10 years old or younger; child abuse and endangerment; furnishing a harmful substance to a child; and furnishing a harmful substance to an adult.
The murder indictment carries two special circumstances: lewd and lascivious acts on a child, and rape by instrument.
The harmful substance indictments stem from charges prosecutors filed in May alleging Huckaby tried to poison a 7-year-old girl and a 37-year-old man. The girl recovered. The man has not been found.
Huckaby began crying when the indictment was read.
The former Sunday School teacher did not enter a plea to Monday’s charges. She has previously pleaded not guilty to the criminal charges of kidnapping, rape and murder.
Prosecutors convened the grand jury in late July rather than hold a preliminary hearing to determine whether Huckaby would stand trial. A trial date has not been set.
The district attorney’s office has not determined if it will seek the death penalty against Huckaby.
http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=65310&provider=top
Dopes. The man is Daniel Plowman, have them check my article on him. Geez.
B
Clipped from Recordnet.com
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090818/A_NEWS/908180316
“Huckaby also is charged with child abuse stemming from a March 17 incident involving another 7-year-old girl from the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park. Huckaby is charged with drugging the girl and 37-year-old Daniel Plowman with a muscle relaxant.”
also
“Grand jury testimony also includes evidence that could exonerate Huckaby but it could also be embarrassing for others in the case, Testa said in the motion. Such evidence is required by law.”
Interesting - could exonerate Huckaby……..
Here we go.
B
Well now, isn’t this interesting,we wouldn’t want to embarrass any adults whose disgusting activities may have involved Sandra or other children.
COME ON ,protect the children from any possible public humiliation from these trash,but put the activities of these offenders into the light.
Bring It
B, Embarrass others???? wth…. Is this going to make me weep??? Anything new on this case??
Clueless what your comments mean?
B
Are you asking if I am clueless?? Or did I miss someone’s name above as “clueless”? I mean, (exonerate H and bury stuff so somebody “high up” is not embarrassed?) It could’nt happen, right??? THAT, would make me weep..
Upon reading my own comment, I realize I kinda left something out. If hard evidence is found that exonerates H, well then thats evidence. But burying something so “somebody” is not embarrassed.. That would enrage me. Zat make more sense?
What DOES that mean?
“Grand jury testimony also includes evidence that could exonerate Huckaby but it could also be embarrassing for others in the case, Testa said in the motion. Such evidence is required by law.”
Embarassing for whom??? LE?? Witnesses?? Relatives???
You could be right… maybe I AM clueless
From KCRA website:
http://www.kcra.com/news/20801646/detail.html
Huckaby Refused Food, ‘Took Pills’ -
SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY, Calif. — A Tracy woman charged with murdering and raping an 8-year-old girl has been displaying strange behavior in jail, according to reports.
Melissa Huckaby, 28, has been charged with murdering Sandra Cantu, whose body was found in a suitcase pulled from an irrigation pond 10 days after she went missing.
Huckaby’s behavior in August prompted four different jail incident reports…..
From KCRA.com
DA Seeks Death Penalty For Huckaby
Woman Accused Of Killing Sandra Cantu
STOCKTON, Calif. — The San Joaquin County district attorney is seeking the death penalty for Melissa Huckaby, who is charged with kidnapping, raping and killing 8-year-old Sandra Cantu.
Huckaby asked for a new attorney in her case on Thursday, but the judge denied her request.
A trial date for Huckaby has not been set.
The prosecution wants the trial to start within the next 60 to 90 days, but the defense said it wants the trial to start in about a year and a half.
What’s going on with this case….anybody know….SilentOne?
I’m still stuck on the “evidence that could exonerate Huckaby but could also be embarassing for others in this case” crap.
Blink,anything new here on this case?
It seems like a stalling tactic to me. Court trial date TBD Dec 4th hearing. As far as exoneration sounds like a media misprint to me because how can that be possible and not release that information. You can not hold someone in custody to keep from embarrassing some one else. You would think that if you were facing the death penalty and had your daughter taken away from you, you wouldn’t care who you have to embarrass to prove your innocence.
I guess we will just have to play the waiting game, unless one of Melissa’s failed attempts to self demise works.
BTW how come there has never been any mention on the status of Melissa’s toddler son? Seems he was forgotten and quick as he was made up.
Definately real. There is a gag order in this case, fyi.
B
I can’t wait to see you proved wrong regarding the toddler son - you are DEAD wrong on this one. I hope you are not too prideful to admit it!
Nice to see you Marie. I am NOT wrong. If I were, I would have no problem divulging the erroneous source.
B
So was this supposed toddler son involved in the incident for him to fall under the gag order? Or are you saying they will expect a toddler to testify, or are you saying you are personally involved in the case? Please explain.
Im saying local reporting is not going to comment due to the gag order. I did see an email from an editor saying they checked it out and could not verify. There is a male child of this woman, I stand behind it and I will say the same thing to every person that posts here looking for the source and what they know. Respectfully, tough darts.
B
There is NO male child. *redacted* is the sole child of Melissa. There is NO other. Melissa’s adopted younger sister has a brother in another state, but Melissa has NO toddler son. I say this with all due respect, Blink - I am 100% sure I’m right.
With all due respect, we disagree.
B
I am not nor have I been looking for your source. I know enough on my own. I was just curious as to why there has been no mention. I guess if he exists he must be well hidden for NO one to have found him yet, but in the same respect no one knows where Dan is either. Except for those on a ntkb.
Heh? Who says he is missing?
Need to Know basis? Are you insinuating Mr. Plowman is a protected witness?
B
No I am speaking of the Media and how they love a story.
Well I appreciate that, but as I know where he is, you can count me out, I say respectfully.
B
I assume you are saying you know where the alleged toddler is because I highly doubt you know where Daniel resides.
Because he was evicted from his last residence you mean?
B
Also when I spoke with the news reporter he stated that an eviction would be a matter of public record and there is no eviction record for DP. That should clear up that allegation. As far as his whereabouts now I am assured no one knows.
Silent, I am not going to hunt links, I promise you, in the news coverage of a former neighbor, that allegation is made. It is only public record if their is a legal proceeding. Frequently to avoid such an action, people split prior to the onset or, they dont have actual leases or whatever. I was repeating the neighbors interview article.
I have already asked you this, are you saying he is a protected witness or just keeping a low profile pending trial?
B
I saw the channel 5 news report in which the neighbors were being interviewed, two neighbors spoke giving conflicting stories regarding the eviction and tenants of the DP household. When I refused to give an interview the news reporter admitted that it was an erroneous news reporting. What do you mean by protected?
Those are your words, no offense, I saw no retraction. What is your issue, I ask respectfully?
B
Hi Silent,
I’m curious to know why would DP be a protected witness,if in fact he is.I can understand one not wanting to let the media know of one’s whereabouts should that be the case.Of course I realize a gag order is in place but how could there be evidence that exonerates Huckaby?
Since I suspect that there could be others involved in this crime,is DP concerned for his safety?Melissa Huckaby’s family is highly suspect to me and I’d love to hear about the inner workings of this family.