Caylee/Casey Anthony Case Scamthony Series II: Conway and George and Cindy Anthony In Court to Stop Autopsy Release
Orlando, FL– Tomorrow Brad Conway and his Clients, George and Cindy Anthony will be in court to argue against the release of the autopsy report of their granddaughter, Caylee Marie Anthony.
If your like me, you have been scratching your head since June 11th as to what standing the Anthony’s have in the first place to file such a motion. This motion was filed with the States Attorneys Office only and not even in Circuit Court. It was never served on the members of the media it refers to.
WTH? Did someone slide it under the door of Judge Strickland’s Water Closet? Paper Airplane?
In Conways motion disguised as an actual motion, George and Cindy Anthony claim to have an executed Power of Attorney over Caylee’s remains from their daughter Casey Anthony. Notice I used the word claim. In Brad Conways motion to the court, Conway references the POA, but never includes it as an exhibit, which would of course be required.
Translation: His Honor, Stan Strickland, took the Anthonys at their word, and stayed their motion.
(editors note: I am getting dangerously close to using that three letter word here: I T O. Does Strickland want to see multiple images of himself dancing on the Tonight Show?)
Read above one more time then come back.
So, you have a motion unserved to the presiding judge, unserved to the media whom the judge points out is the proper party of service, from people that claim to have “standing” as custodians of Caylee’s remains.
To my knowledge, that does not grant them any rights to her Estate or make them a Trustee to anything having to do with anything other than the guardianship of her remains. Not be crass, but in theory, they are the equivalent of a mortuary; that’s all. How many funeral homes or mortuaries are you aware of that can block the release of a Clients autopsy being released in accordance with state law?
Furthermore, the report in itself IS an EXPLANATION OF FINDINGS by the Orange County Medical Examiner Dr. Jan Garavaglia. It is the finding of fact admission to the court, whereby technically it is already interpreted. As a practical matter Conway may as well have said “The Anthonys are trying to spin public opinion as the court date gets closer and this will seriously bust their groove. We would appreciate it if you would tell the smarter than us people to nevermind and go about their business. ”
Very Important detail here.. You know who is NOT requesting the autopsy be sealed? Her Mother. Casey Marie Anthony through her attorney is not requesting the report, reportedly 30 pages long, be sealed. This report contains a detailed summary by Dr. G that includes tests and evidence gathered since her initial findings which may allow for some conclusions as to what happened to Caylee to cause her death.
You bet it does. Casey knows that, and knows it leaves the door wide open for when she points the finger at her parents.
The precociousness of these people is stupifying.
The latitude being extended in this court and the cavernous berth they have been given makes me think I should mosey down to Orlawn do and file a motion for a summary judgement against Casey Anthony. The way this seems to be going, I’m thinking odds are in my favor I would get it.
I might suggest Jim Hoover hit the circuit with his photos of George and Cindy grieving “Ritz Style” while the very remains they are being charged with “guarding” were being recovered within spitting distance of their home, and they opted for a weekend getaway, gratis.
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Blink!! great timing, but I offer a bit of concerned advice to you, please take a lesson about too much ‘head-scratching’ over this Conway move, just look at Bill Schaeffer’s interview on WFTV and notice how much head scratching he has been doing over this issue already!!! There isn’t a hair left on his head!!!
Absolutely noticed the glaring lack of defense position about the autopsy report!!!! They do not care, they want people to see it’s ‘bare bones’ only, they know what’s in it obviously and the 35 pages is probably not all ‘report’ but annexes and attachments and like that– bulking-out stuff. They don’t want it to appear hidden behind a judge’s order to seal.
It is my understanding that in Florida, there is a statute in place that allows the family to petition to stop the release of the autopsy to the public until the trial starts if releasing the autopsy results will cause significant distress to the family. This is why the Anthony’s have standing to file. (per a bunch of attorneys on NG a couple of weeks ago)
Her Mother is not even attempting to seal this, there is an undetermined cause of death, no standing.
B
oh oh, Blink has far better ideas than I about the why’s of the defense no objection to the autopsy report– bowing to Blink and backing off– that’s what I get for rushing between jobs here.
Proof of what happens if you scratch head too hard over this Conway motion:
http://www.wftv.com/video/19738543/index.html
I’ve been trying to follow this from the beginning when I happened to end up on the SM’s site. However, you super slueths are way ahead of me in understanding what’s really going on. Here are my short & sweet questions:
1. Do the Anthony’s know the bus is coming?
2. Are the Anthony’s willingly awaiting the bus because they know when it hits them it will place some reasonable doubt and possibly get their daughter out of serving time?
3. And are they willingly awaiting the bus because they know that they will never be charged with anything?
Yes Yes and Yes.
B
Yes but Blink dont you think the defence has been planning to throw everyone Casey and Caylee knew under the bus,do you really think only Mom and pop.If the defence can show that theres a possibility someone else killed the child,even my accident,they cant sentence her to death.Dont get me wrong everythings a little shady, right down to that second call where you can hear Cindy say “I gave you a month” to Casey.
The apple does not fall far from the tree I cant believe Cindys comments 2 days ago about the missing Cummings girl..yeah Cindy you should have just stayed home and picked out your next lovely GREEN outfit yuk
Kleat: Maybe Conway and Baez are splitting the difference. It looks worse if Baez tries to halt the autopsy release as that might imply something damaging to their case. If the Anthonys pursue the deal, they can claim (and it may be true for a variety of reasons) that it will cause them distress. This way it makes it appear that the defense has no objection to it. Perhaps they are still working in concert?
Dude its like a Kill Bill Movie right now. I dont know why I just said dude. Lol
B
On # 6: Better abandon the foundation now. If there wasn’t a taint before, there will be if that goes down and they are implied to be involved. No more missing children charity.
WOW!! Gotta say my head is spinning..Brilliant stuff!!
Blink
Hoover really does have photos? I’m surprised they weren’t sold to the National Enquirer.
Just something that has been bugging me…I dont feel that it helps when people attack the clothes, hair, weight gain or loss re:the Anthony family, it all nonsense. The root of all this a beautiful 2 year old little girl who was MURDERED!! Lets try to be above the personal insults (just my opinion hope i do not offend anyone)..I have NO PROBLEM bashing them for the lies and numerous crimes and the horror that they have created. They are ALL a part of this tragedy and deserve the misery that life has become for them but i could care less what Cindy is wearing or how much weight Casey has gained..does us no good. Sorry, just felt like as i was reading today (not specifically here) seems like alot of attacks like that and it is silly to mock things that really dont matter..
My last drop of sympathy for the Anthony’s dried up a looong time ago. I saw Conway admitting that there is no theory where Casey is “under the umbrella of suspicion” (I’d like to hit them all upside the head with an umbrella quite frankly) and the question at trial would be “if she had help…bordering on conspiracy.” What kind of family would defame themselves to let a sociopath lying daughter off the hook? I wish the state had brought obstruction of justice charges on Cindy a long time ago. Blink– do you have a realistic opinion of when this is really going to finally go to trial?
I do not believe this will ever go to trial
B
Have the Anthony’s not given thought to the damage that will occur to their precious foundation once they are accused of having involvement in this crime? Or do they live for the moment as does their daughter?
Blink — if all three parts of #6 are correct, then why bother trying to seal the autopsy report? Just another ploy to make the A’s appear softer and gentler and gain sympathy? I guess they don’t mind being blamed if it creates reasonable doubt, but don’t want to be blamed enough to be charged with Caylee’s murder? Maybe I just answered my own question?
The PA document that is not present is a document that should have been born in the office of Baez. Does Baez now have legal standing to request legal censure against the judge that is requesting censure against him?
Would he be stupid enough to do that if he can? Keep in mind, next to Geraldo, that SS has been his BFF since the beginning.
The A’s have requested special treatment outside of the law many times. I have not read all of the Sunshine Laws of Florida but doubt there is a “George and Cindy’s wants” exclusionary paragraph. I’m scratching my head as well.
MY, my the grief stricken Mr. & Mrs. couldn’t have any pesky report’s out there before their appearance on CBS could they? I mean, come on, the anniversary of the day that Caylee was murdered, they didn’t want to field any question’s about the autopsy findings. Their mission was to tout their new status as ADVOCATES for Missing children. Not to discuss their own murdered Grandchild, who was never missing.
Can you imagine the directives dictated by Cindy toward Brad in the week’s prior?
Cindy: Make it go away Brad, I don’t care how you do it, just DO IT!!
Brad: There is no legal standing for us to do that Cindy.
Cindy: I DON’T CARE BRAD! MAKE IT GO AWAY. We have to generate enough funding to go to Spain and search for Madeline M. We have to take this Foundation International Brad!! (’cause that is the only missing child’s name she knows off the top of her head, and she and Sherri want to do a little sight seeing and shopping.)
Cindy: If the media get a hold of that DAMN report all they will want to talk about is the Autopsy, autopsy, autopsy! (visualize Jan Brady there)
Cindy: GET IT DONE BRAD, or you will incur my wrath FOREVER. Don’t MESS with this Foundation…er..uh…Family!! DO YOU HEAR ME BRAD?
Brad: Yes, Cindy.
Brad slaps together half azzed motion, forgets important attachment and sends it off to the wrong address on a wing and a prayer it’ll buy enough time and not get him sanctioned by the Florida Bar.
Sorry for the melodrama, but these people just burn my shorts.
Conway states ,”there is no prejudice in keeping the autopsy sealed”. But isn’t there? Speculation surely is not as distressful as the descriptions/photos of the duct tape and heart sticker which were released in accordance with the Florida Sunshine Law. Additionally, I have never heard of potential speculation as legal grounds not to release discovery. If that were the case no information would have been released at all. And there is proof that the Anthonys have already familiarized themselves with discovery documents, in the past, as they stated during the civil deposition that, in fact, did not cause them distress. Plus, the Anthonys are on television routinely discussing the disappearance of their grand daughter and administering advice to others on missing children. They have not sequestered themselves away from this topic through their own free will. They have also speculated about who might be involved, in the past (ie. someone in Puerto Rico and Jesse Grund). I don’t know how there wouldn’t be preferential prejudice if the autopsy is sealed for fear of distress from “speculation” vs. the Florida Sunshine Law. If it is no more horrific than the duct tape, and it isn’t prejudicial to Casey Anthony as would be argued through her own attorney’s motion, it seems that you’d have to overturn the Sunshine Law to not release it.
My opinion obviously.
Prejudice: an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just ground .
Last post. Sorry so many. Gotta work.
*headdesk, headdesk, headdesk*
Ok, can it and will it get any weirder, B?
Grandparents dont have any standing when it comes to living children – believe me I know from experience. I dont see how they have any standing in this matter now. Casey is the mother and her attorney hasnt filed any motion to not allow release of the autopsy report which is rather interesting in itself.
You know blinko, I have followed this case from the beginning and have just recently come to the conclusion that the defense, Cindy and George Anthony are acting so IRRATIONALLY is because they know Casey is going to get away with this. Someone has bankrolled them all and is planning to either threaten a jury member or pay one off. All it takes is ONE. I don’t think there can be any other answer. They were all told, “just sit tight, it’s going to be taken care of.” I also believe this is happening because of WHO little Caylee’s father is or HOW Casey became pregnant. (raped, drugged???)
Sorry, off-topic, but I am picking myself up off the floor and need someone (Blink?) to verify the authenticity of this book scheduled to be released November 3, 2009!!!
Mommy’s Little Girl: Casey Anthony and her Daughter Caylee’s Tragic Fate (Mass Market Paperback)
by Diane Fanning (Author)
Not only do I not authenticate it, I dont condone it. This woman has never met anyone in the Anthony family or spoken with any investigators in this case. I have seen the defense of it, not buying it
B
Blink—
Does that mean you think Casey will accept a plea of some kind, or were you just being sarcastic? What do you mean?
thanks, (your huge fan)
amanda
Yes she will, thats as far as I am going on that at the moment
B
Love your comment ClockWatcher – I could actually see that conversation unfolding right before my eyes, really great! You do well when your shorts are afire, lol
These motions are listed on Casey Anthony’s criminal case file (Orange County Clerk of Court website).
I had assumed the 6-10 item (Motion to Restrict Disclosure) refers to the autopsy motion filed by Brad Conway because the dates match (6-10) and because something (IMO) had to be filed for Strickland to rule on (6-12 order for temporary stay).
I do not know which party filed the motion on 6-15, but I and others have been wondering if Baez filed it. If Baez did file the motion entered on 6-15, I would be interest in knowing (if anyone knows) if the reason the central Florida websites are saying Casey will not be therefore required to attend the hearing is because of the in camera nature of the hearing.
6/10/2009 A MOTION TO RESTRICT DISCLOSURE
6/12/2009 A ORDER ON GEORGE AND CINDY ANTHONY’S MOTION TO RESTRICT DISCLOSURE COURT HEREBY ENTERS A TEMPORARY STAY OF THE AUTOPSY FINDINGS AND REPORTS SCHEDULED TO BE RELEASED ON JUNE 12, 2009. THE STAY WILL REMAIN INTACT UNTIL FURTHER DIRECTION FROM THE COURT
6/15/2009 A MOTION TO RESTRICT DISCLOSURE OF AUTOPSY REPORT
6/17/2009 A NOTICE OF PROVISION OF DOCUMENTS UNDER SEAL
FOR IN CAMERA INSPECTION RE: AUTOPSY REPORTS
http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Details.aspx?SessionID=d1439954-17cc-4878-9f03-98a7acc95eff&CaseID=6079536
You mention in your article “To my knowledge, that does not grant them any rights to her Estate or make them a Trustee to anything having to do with anything other than the guardianship of her remains.”
Was there ever an Estate Guardian appointed for Caylee by the courts since her mother is charged with her murder? I have thrown this out there before and do not reside in the State of Florida, but every bit of money collected in this horrific case is due, and only due, to the death of this beautiful child.
No
B
RE: Comment #19
Huge thanks! I knew you would know. Your input and proven track record is all I need. Regards….
Actually was Comment #21, NOT #19…
If someone already asked/answered this and I missed it, please direct me to it. What I don’t understand is if the cause of death is undetermined, what could be damning in the autopsy report? What could be so horrific that holding it from being released for a short period of time do? I guess I’m ignorant on this, since I’ve never actually seen one but 35 pages? Are they usually that long when (sorry to be cold) only bones are found?
My first guess Ashley is there could be evidence of severe child abuse. Broken bones which have healed look much different than normal bones. Also, the obvious, drugs.
Respectfully, I think it will go the other way. The absence of trauma to a very largley recovered skeleton, negative on hair samples for drugs and a recovered fully intact hyoid bone will point to asphyxiation or drowning as likely. Which will suck for the Anthonys because she will say that it happened on their watch, and she attempted to make it look like a kidnapping and made up the Zanny story to protect them; the following PTSD ensued. Or some version thereof.
B
gotta fatten the goose that lays the golden eggs before you kill it in a last irrational act of greed
HEY BLINK..I WAS READING THROUGH SOME OF THE OTHER COMMENTS REGARDING THE SCAM-ANTHONY’S STATING ON THEIR WEBSITE THAT THE DEATH OF CAYLEE OCCURED ON “AUGUST 9TH”..
THE REASON THE LYING SCAM-ANTHONY’S HAVE MADE THIS “DATE OF DEATH “UP IS BECAUSE AFTER THE “IMAGINARY NANNY ZENAIDA” KIDNAPPED CAYLEE, EVIL CASEY HAD ONLY “55 IMAGINARY DAYS” (“TIMER 55″) UNTIL CAYLEE’S BIRTHDAY ON AUGUST 9TH (BEFORE SHE WOULD BE RETURNED TO THE INSANE SCAM-ANTHONY FAMILY ) …
DURING THOSE “55 DAYS” CASEY WOULD HAVE BEEN TAUGHT HER “IMAGINARY LESSON” , HAVING FOLLOWED ALL THE “IMAGINARY INSTRUCTIONS” SHE HAD BEEN RECIEVEING VIA HER MY SPACE ACCOUNT ( THAT “ZENAIDA” HAD HACKED INTO)…AND, AS WE ALL KNOW CASEY WAS IN JAIL READING HER BIBLE, AND MEMORIZING SCRIPTURE, ON CAYLEE’S AUGUST 9TH BIRTHDAY…
SO, IS THIS ONE MORE REASON WHY EVIL CINDY AND GEORGINA SCAM-ANTHONY DO NOT WANT THE THE AUTOPSY RESULTS RELEASED BECAUSE THEIR IS A 2 MONTH DISCREPNCY IN THE “SCAM-ANTHONY IMAGINARY MURDER DATE” AND THE ACTUAL MUDER DATE OF JUNE 15TH?
OOPS , I FORGOT TO ADD..
WHEN EVIL CASEY FAILED TO “LEARN” HER “IMAGINARY LESSON”, “ZENAIDA, THE IMAGINARY NANNY” , MURDERED CAYLEE ON AUGUST 9TH ( HER BIRTHDAY FOLLOWING THE “55 DAYS” )….
Thank you Boz and Blink…….. that makes it much clearer….
I have a theory here. IMO I think Tony the last boyfriend may have helped KC dump Caylee. Why would he wear a wire for LE to try and trap Lee if they couldn’t prove he had some type of involvement? Such as maybe his fingerprints are also on the handle of the laundry bag and LE says do this for us and we will only charge you with improper disposal of a body and obstuction. Of course Baez will get this info to and what he does is one thing. Funny he and KC were in blockbusters at 4pm and Caylee was already gone. There is something just not normal after reading his statement to police why he would wear a wire. Just a thought.
I to agree Bozo has asked Conway to file this motion since Judge Strickland is alread po’d at Bozo for all these motions he files and files wrong! Then Conway files motions wrong. Is there any lawyers involved in this case that know what there doing? Wouldn’t you think Baden or Lyins would know how to instruct Bozo to file a motion since they are “THE BEST”! I think the autopsy will be released. The Anthony’s meal ticket is just about up.
Hey, maybe Zenaida hacked into Cindy’s computer too, to send those emails to Sean Krause! You know, the ones sent from Shirley Plesea’s computer– poor woman being dragged into that, obviously it was Cindy doing her thing from a different computer, then she could say it was not her. Or maybe she was just being thoughtless to include her mother in this by using the computer while she was visiting. Shirley wouldn’t understand how ISP numbers work or how her computer might get tied into things.
‘WHAT IF’ a father for Caylee were to step forward, could such a person (parent vs grandparent) ask that the autopsy records be kept from the public? Or just the defendant and is that because she is the ‘defendant ‘ with a trial upcoming, or because she is the child’s parent? (or both?)
What if the father should be, as some speculate, also the grandfather? Would a biological father have rights in this situation under Florida law?
Yes, but sadly, I do believe Caylee’s Father is deceased
B
Ahhh! Just read the motion- I am (again) thoroughly disgusted that the Anthony’s and Mr. Conway had the audacity to list CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY as the DEFENDANT! Disgusting.
My opinion, judge Strickland is looking for a quick trial. He is taking away all the possible objections, road blocks ((future appeals))that Casey Anthony’s defense team can make about a fair trial in Orlando.
The media or the public’s right to know has been put on the back burner.
Blink is the only person looking at the Anthony’s possible crimes in this case. After hearing the taped message left by Cindy Anthony on Tim Millers answering machine. I heard possible obstruction by intimidating a future witness in this case. How many other witness’s has the Anthony’s attacked or intimidated?
Told what to say and threaten to stay quit? Does money for Caylee Marie Anthony fund goes to Cindy & George then the Casey Anthony defense fund? Who profits?
The Anthony’s are a active group of thugs. Not grieving grand parents. They want it all their way. JUST like CASEY! The DA needs to go after the grandparents for obstruction!
Greg I do not think I am the only one, everyone who cares enough to be interested and “act” should get the shout out. You bring up a very good point though. I will say that message was a reaction to Tim telling George that he needed to “man up” and the key to where Caylee was, was down the hall.
B
Blink:
Let’s say the bus is coming for the Anthony’s. How does it come? I can’t imagine that the Anthony’s will willingly admit to skeletons in their closet. So, where do you go? Her friends? Most never had any direct contact with the Anthony’s, just with her. So heresay. An expert or mitigation consultant could testify about things Casey tells them but how much credibility will that have? A known liar told me blah, blah, blah.
I am hoping the reason Dr. G believes the death is a homicide is because fingerprints were found on the bag, duct tape, sticker or somewhere at the scene where the remains were found. 31 days, the car had decomp and I hope maggots tell a tale as well. Slam dunk, then plea deal.
Thanks for the good work.
I do not believe the print evidence on the duct tape will come out in the autopsy, thus why the “dance” between the now divided camps. That would be easy.
B
Ah, Blink!! Geeeez! Why don’t you warn people to put on their helmets before reading these head-exploding new details????
WTH? I agree completely, the Anthonys have NO standing to seal the autopsy report. I don’t know Florida law, but the POA given to them by Casey was most likely to allow them to make her final arrangements. Could it have given them all rights to her estate, as well?
No, but that is part of what they are trying to accomplish.
B
Blink do you think this will be like when George and Cindy were to be deposed by Morgan and Brad said they were to fragile at that time…the judge then gave him 10 days to produce medical evidence which he never did? Hence they were deposed after that. I can see since there is no POA document in this motion, he will go into court without it, state his case and the judge giving him another 10 days to produce the evidence.
No way. No Frenchin way. These people do not even have standing in this. I can only hope the media is well represented tomorrow. That motion was a joke and should be treated as such.
B
Blink, I am trying to stay positive for the outcome, hopping Casey will get EXACTLY what she deserves…I want her in general population in the jail…she lived as a ho and she doesnt have any privileges..I want her shalow-minded mom to just get some sence of disency and shut up..I cannt thing about George as a x-cop – its just killing me how macho-less this poor guy is ..he looks and acts like a joke ..they all do
I just wonder, do you trust Judge Stickland? Is he just siding with them ?
My jury is out on that so far, in general, but I do not think he is siding with anyone.
B
Blink, Since the State is seeking the death penalty on KC, do they even have to agree on a plea or is that no longer an option? I guess I really don’t about these things. If the State is seeking the DP why would they even consider a plea agreement at this point since they have a good case against KC. Since the ScamAnthony’s are now the defense’s scape goat, wouldn’t they have to prove that they were somehow involved and not rely on KC’s accusations against her parents alone. I mean we all KNOW she is a liar, so how can they even base all of this simply on her words. Thanks. I really enjoy your blog!
There are too many what if’s in your question friend
B
Blink,
I know that you stated in an earlier post reply that you thought Caylee’s father was indeed deceased – But . . .
I’m curious if you’ve investigated who the mysterious Michael Kelley is, a guy in San Diego who apparently sends Casey Anthony about $25 each week while she is in jail. http://www.wftv.com/news/19201566/detail.html
I checked out a Michael Kelley on myspace, a 22 year old from the bay area. Here’s a link to his photos.
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=1670870&albumId=387497
He looks so much like Caylee, it’s eerie. Same eyes, same nose.
Now Casey reportedly told a friend that Caylee was the product of a one-night stand at a hotel after some office party. I have no evidence that this Michael Kelley was in the Olando area when Caylee was conceived, but I thought that I’d throw this your way. I think it’s worth investigating.
P.S. You don’t have to post this (especially because the poor guy will get more friends on myspace than he wants), but please let me know what you think by email if possible.
I welcome all to check it out, but I am on record as to who I think Bio Dad is and that is only subject to change with a notarized paternity test indicating otherwise. Not to appear hard headed or anything.
B
I hope you keep all these postings,right from the start.
RL, I am a post packrat. I keep everyone from anywhere I have ever posted. By virtue of the web, they are saved, but of course on our server as well. Can I ask why you said that?
B
Hey Blink, for those of us who found your blog after your post about who Caylee’s father was, could you please expound on that or post a link to your original post? I haven’t been reading your blog as long as most of your regulars. I found you through Scared Monkeys which I found from another conservative political blog. Thanks.
How could one forsake such a kind request.
Jose Ortiz, God rest his soul. For me, he was the best chance she had, had he known
B
lol blink… they would have confirmation of your Caylee dad, if so, by now, right?!!
Betting folks step up!! (j/k)
Tony was just helping Le when he wore wire. That was early on in investigation, Caylee and bags was not found til December 11th. Tony was just trying to show le he was not involved. The guy on the myspace in my opinion does not look like Caylee or vice versa.
Nancy, maybe I can help with the plea question and why would the state take one now with a good case? They can lose a good case with a single juror– so, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is a factor, this case is expensive, appeals are expensive… plea on the other side, well there’s the cash cow to milk for awhile yet