Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Caylees Autopsy Revelations Part I
Orlando, FL– Under heavy objection last Friday afternoon, Judge Stan Strickland denied the motion on behalf of George and Cindy Anthony to seal Caylee Marie Anthonys autopsy until their daughter Caseys capital murder trial in their granddaughters death. Late Friday afternoon, the Findings of Dr. Jan Garavaglia, Chief Medical Examiner of Orange County were released. In Part I, we explore a few of the notable findings, In Development for Part II, Blinkoncrime will be is creating an interactive 3D Model, incorporating the evidence recovery field, bone disbursement pattern, and anatomical example of the duct tape placement.
The Laundry Bag
Although the report contains a significant amount of anthropologic and forensic data, it does not contain photos or X-Rays, pursuant to the Earnhardt exclusion under Florida Law. Blinkoncrime.com will attempt to offer some observations and in some cases, correct some erroneous information that is being reported in the msm. For starters, the laundry bag picture being circulated, it is incorrect, the image to the left is the correct bag, note the dimensions are exact. The top of this bag does not cinch.
The Duct Tape
I have seen rampant speculation on the duct tape beginning around 15 minutes following the release of the report. 
There are many who believe that Casey Anthony killed her child by wrapping her nose and mouth with duct tape. Allow me to point out the report actually reflects the antithesis of this theory. First, there IS NO TAPE ON THE POSTERIOR of her skull. The only posterior placement of the tape mentioned is still located on the mandible, or face. The tape, which was actually small strips of grey cloth-based, delaminating tape is applied on top of itself, not really feasible with a live toddler. Given the findings that Caylee’s mandible stayed in almost true anatomical position, although slightly posterior and that the hair that was attached to the tape extended from the back of her head and over her head and face, it is likely Caylee was laying on her back when the tape was applied. Henkel makes 2 kinds of duct tape, one is more Industrial grade of adhesive “hot set” over cloth designed for waterproof and outdoor projects. It has not yet been disclosed which formulation was used.
The O Sign
A contributing poster at blinkoncrime gave me something to think about that had not occurred to me. I am on record stating I do believe that Casey Anthony murdered her daughter, and that she will end up pointing the finger at one or both of her parents as a defense strategy.
However, the duct tape never really fit for me. I have always believed it to be a post mortem tactic to stage a kidnapping. I do believe I may have been wrong. Very well known to medical and critical care professionals, there is something called an O effect; occurring at very near death, or shortly following death and before rigormortis sets in.
Some medical people refer to it when the person is very near death or has just died–the jaw drops open. Nothing left to hold the mandible shut. In morgue kits there is a strap that is applied around the jaw to gently close it before rigor sets in. This “O” sign can be very pronounced and unsettling to see first hand. Casey probably wasn’t aware of this and was really spooked by this silent scream and used the duct tape then put a heart sticker on it as a ________
This makes sense to me. The tape is applied in small strips across the nose and mouth areas, catching her hair in the face over the Coronal plane region. One interpretation that may be drawn is that Caylee was lying on her back, upon seeing what Casey had done to her child as evidenced by the relaxed mandible; she attempted to “fix her”. As if covering up the evidence of death on her baby would change things, complete with a heart sticker. No sooner did I arrive at this conclusion on Saturday, did I see Dr.Michael Baden appear on Geraldo Live on Sunday evening bringing up the mortuary kit issue. I am not saying this idea originated here, not that it would be the first time, but it at least tells me there is corroboration within the forensic Medical community as to the premise. The FBI report on the duct tape has not been released. One thing is certain, what I have been stating all along about Casey’s prints being on the duct tape seems foreboding. With multiple strips of tape, chances are there are several. The defense has had this report for months, is this why Casey Anthony retained Todd Macaluso?
Swim Diaper?
There are several remnants recovered that are described as a diaper or pull ip item. However, there are a few that appear to be strictly synthetic. When I read the report, my immediate reaction based on some of the coloring was that it was a “swimmie”, or disposable swim diaper. After mapping out the dimensions and a closer look, I believe it is actually referring to remnants of both a pull up, a reusable swim diaper, or swim floation/assistance device or both, as pictured here:
Paper Towels
Simply stated there is decomposition fluid on paper towels in the plastic garbage bag found in her trunk that came from Tony Lazzarros apartment.
In my opinion, Casey ripped the bag Caylees remains were in when she moved her body into or out of the trunk to her final resting place in the woods off Suburban. The stain in the trunk, emitting the ungodly stench, was the target of the paper towels after Casey returned to TonE’s apartment. She brought the paper towels and garbage bag out with her in an attempt to clean it up and realized almost immediately it was an excerise in futility. Immediately following are her comments to Amy about George Anthony borrowing her car, and the infamous squirrel stowaway story.
Her Clothes
In contrast to only a stitching remnant with a manufactures tag left of her shirt, Caylees shorts were found nearly 2 ft ft away from the laundry bag, in relatively good condition. Based on the reports findings of trunk and femural animal activity and the corresponding recovery area, I am of the opinion that it is not possible that Caylee was wearing those shorts when she was dumped in the woods. Frankly, given the fact that the actual color stripe pattern was discernable versus the condition of the other items, I am suspect Casey was in those woods more than once. How do you get only the collar of a shirt remaining and her shorts completely intact with no noted damage? Lastly, Caylees shoes if she were wearing any, were not recovered.
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I don’t know where it is in the discovery, but I was recalling news reports that an “Adorable” backpack was found with the remains:
WFTV: “Caylee Marie Anthony’s remains were found on December 11 stuffed into a cloth laundry hamper bag and then in a black trash bag with yellow ties. A small shirt and shorts were found with the remains and also Caylee’s backpack with the word “adorable” on it.”
http://www.wftv.com/news/18530178/detail.html
ABC: “The documents also indicate that Caylee’s body was placed in a cloth laundry bag, which was then placed in a black trash bag. A Winnie the Pooh blanket, a backpack with the word ‘adorable’ on it and child’s clothing were also found in the bag.”
http://www.abcactionnews.com/content/news/specialreports/caylee_anthony/story/Documents-confirm-duct-tape-on-Caylees-Anthonys/tUnPwELpwEOqES8XK7GrkA.cspx
Just reading the above sentence drives me crazy about mistatements by the press, that is not accurrate.
B
Red Ranger, where does Lee say he has evidence of Casey’s employment? I watched the 18 minute interview on August 8, and all he said was that he wasn’t aware that the emails he gave LE in late July were bogus and that his own friends and investigators were still looking into her employment.
Red, no disrespect to my Mom……Warrior River, boat, roadies, could you be my daddy? lololololololol! Anyhoo I do so enjoy watching the intelligence just pour out of you and Blink. I just sit in amazement sometimes. If I ever have a problem I’m not calling a lawyer, I’m calling ya’ll!
I am going to ask a stupid question because I see it is not a favorable topic. I am genuinely interested but not able to ‘grasp’ what the issue is with the shamrock lanyard. This whole shamrock thing isn’t makin sense to me either. I get that she has a tattoo and her rear view mirror is adorned with one. It appears that some friends have the same interest in the very Irish symbol. I know people who love plaid and don’t have a Scottish bone in their body (*whistling*)
I’ve read up on the lanyard on this site. Since I am a few sandwiches short of a pic nic, I am at a disadvantage to begin with. What was the lanyard used for in Casey’s case and giving it to her friend, Sean…what is up with that? Is this really an instrumental piece to the case?
My apologies if this is a redundant question.
Ok…it just occurred to me where the shamrock may fit in. It hits me eventually, just not as quick as some. Is this what is being implied: Sean (Irish name yes, but Irish himself?) is being considered as a possibility of fathering Caylee? I don’t see any resemblance personally but that’s the only connection I’m making regarding the shamrock/lanyard obsession of Casey’s.
Ugh. Some details are over my head.
Hey Maura, I just listened to it again and it is not in there. I do not know if the tape was edited, (I doubt that) or my memory is faulty. I do know I heard it and that it was in a LA interview.
We discussed it ad nauseum on another site I used to post on.I quit going there when it was discovered that one of the mods was a pedophile sex offender. We were not allowed to ask any questions about this revelation under threat of banning so I left. The other mods had also turned into bullies and it was just a bad vibe. Plus the owner was a yotch to a friend of mine for asking simple questions. But I digress…I will look in the archives this evening.
speaking of which anyone know the story of casey’s birth ,who is her daddy ,not george ?kleat, i wait for a good entry point for the other “subject”,actually the first time you mentioned it i researched it, sociopath . rad? reactive attatchment disorder? george admits he had little to do with her upbringing, cindy, hmmm…..
Blink..
I’ve been following this case cery closely. Thanks for all you do.
Question: Have you actually seen the fingerprints on the duct tape?
Thanks!
No.
B
Also…who bought the “replacement” Winnie The Pooh blanket. If, whoever it was, didn’t pay cash for it…there must be a credit card trail.
That purchase is **very** telling, if you ask me.
Blink, yes send me to the corner, you know I twix my merds. Sorry.
Lol, no corner for the onionskin
B
well, i pull up this site at work before i pull up anthing else. that’s right, dont need anymore mystery or crime books. just check in with y’all throughout the day. cant wait to get to work on mondays—never thought i would say THAT. so i can see what happened over the weekends. the defense just needs to read this and then they would realize that they need to just give up right away. hope everyone is having a good day.
I can’t find anything saying George is not Casey’s real father. I read he had little to do with her upbringing but that could just mean that he worked a lot or wasn’t around the house much. Does anyone know if he adopted her or not?
Thanks, Red Ranger.
I don’t recall Lee’s having made any claims regarding proof of Casey’s post-Universal (spring 2006 termination) employment. In Lee’s July 28 9am visit to Casey, he told her he had talked to someone who confirmed those people exist (must be the Heather McDonald whose name Lee provided to Yuri Melich in a July 26 email). According to Lee, in his July 27 OCSO interview, Heather had worked with Casey at Universal and could confirm that she and Casey had co-workers named Juliet (but Juliet’s last name might not be Lewis) and Jeffrey, who had a young son named Zachary (but Jeffrey’s last name might not be Hopkins).
I only made it through the first 43 pages of Lee’s ZG deposition, so maybe he discusses his proof of her employment there.
I do know that on July 30, Baez’s co-counsel Michael Walsh was on Greta. Walsh said Casey had been working at Fusion for a few months. He claimed she was being paid by promotion companies to work at Fusion in the months leading up to the events of June 2008 and that she got a paycheck for working those promotions.
FDLE’s wage and hour check on Casey showed that her “last place of employment” was Event Imaging Solutions and her last recorded wages are from the first quarter of 2006. I would certainly assume that if she worked as an independent contractor for any legitimate businesses since then, that those employers would have filed an R-1099 with the IRS, and that any wages from 1099s would be picked up by the wage and hour check (in other words, all income filed with the IRS, even if she doesn’t have a permanent place of employment because she’s an independent contractor). If she worked under the table (no 1099s), then she could have been receiving “a paycheck” but it wouldn’t show on the wage and hour report.
If Walsh was telling the truth and if she was getting a paycheck from a legitimate company for the few months before June 2008, then she should have income recorded on the wage and hour report for the second quarter of 2008.
However, Walsh could simply have been blowing smoke or repeating what Casey had told him and crossing his fingers during the Fox interview. In the same interview, he said he had spoken to people who claim to have met the babysitter who took Caylee. He said these people both saw (“laid eyes on”) and spoke to the babysitter between time she started babysitting Caylee through the time of Caylee’s disappearance. He also said those people will vouch for the fact that this woman was babysitting Caylee. Laughably, Walsh added that he “wants” to give this information to LE and “has been trying” to give this information to LE.
Apparently, Walsh did not have access to fax machines, telephones, email, or post mail since he had not been able, despite trying, to get that information to LE. I did not see the names of these people on the defense’s witness list.
TeeHee. Leave it to you to bring up one of my biggest questions in this case.. Why did Walsh quit?
B
The ‘lanyard’– we just GOTTA be patient on that one, there’s nothing to ‘figure out’ from our end now, it will take some primary source research on that I suspect so let’s leave it in Blink’s very capable hands. If Blink were like the regular ‘media’ people, she’d have plastered that all of this site without confirmation, without developing the facts. That’s not what she does– and unfortunately for us, we have to wait until she is ethically ready and able to do so (by her own self-imposed standards of confirming before sharing– ‘media’ doesn’t always do this when they have to get stuff out fast for ratings)
But Blink did give a hint where things might be going and if that follows through, could be plenty interesting. Cindy was also wanting to know where it went– who of LE ‘took’ it. Of course they took it… what did Cindy want it for? Not a great piece of jewellery.
Why thank you Kleat, but so far my investigations simply pegged the lanyard in the first place as “the lanyard” by uncovering the photos and matching it to the description. LE does not have that lanyard, imo.
B
Speaking to the Irish fetish of Casey….I live in Fort Worth,Texas.We have an extensive Irish Traveller (yep 2 LL’s) population.
I worked in media and am familiar with the criminal activity connected to this group(most people are around here).The elderly are the most targeted by these people.
Google the name and click on to rickross.com and he has several stories there about them.
Now for something that might interest the good people looking into kid finders.The Irish Travellers often have Many many cars,businesses and people registered at one address.Some times numbering a 100 people or more and 40 50 cars at the same house!
Well there you go…….It is possibly a stretch that any of the under the radar people Casey knew where a part of this group ,but you never know.
But I wouldn’t be surprised if the shamrocks don’t really figure in.
Blink: Your response to my #588 — Had read your article of 03-17-09 but for sure I thought you were going to address it again. I will blame my “off-topic” statement on “Kleat”
since he has also awaited additional info. on this topic. (Ok – I will take my toys and go home now):)
#600 Kleat: IMHO my personal answer is “…or??”. I humbly await Blink’s next article and will take a seat in the back row now…by all appearances, though, you seem to be much more involved and informed than I! What a great attribute you have been/are to so many of us.
I think I may be slow today, gang, not getting this, but at any rate, no taking of toys and going home, your a staple, sorry, lol
B
Hey PamTX, I’ll take the blame, but ‘he’ has not awaited additional info. on this topic, if you get my drift.
(ohboy… so who does have the … oh, not going to ask… )
(but… who besides Cindy had access to it if not taken by LE… definitely one person we know of who was investigating.)
Blink, thanks so much for your wonderful contributions! Your comments along with everyone else’s, have captured the interest of a group of “senor citizens” here in a small community. They follow the news on this case and sit around and discuss it for hours and hours every single day. Your site is always one that they want to see! They all wanted me to post and give you their BIG THANKS!
Thank you RJ, you made me day, tell my “Senior Blinksters” a big hello from Blink
B
Any fingerprints found at the office break in?? Anyone ever charged with that crime?? Me thinks something smells fishy…
Sorry, that was not totally clear question (just figured Blink can read my mind..lol) I meant the ZG office break in, in June 08….thanks
nickel,
Early on when the break in and the young lady was killed at J.B park was discussed, I wondered if Casey could be involved with others in criminal activity.
So I’m with you on that.I realize the murderer of Nicole G. was identified but the office break in is still on the table…so to speak.
if I’m not correct or current ….please fill me in.This case has several tentacles.
#528. I love this comment! I agree. Casey has provided hints and fractional truths in her statements. From her alter ego ZG’s perspective, it went down just as you say. Could it be less complicated than we think?
Ok so I just went back and re read the IMs from Casey and Tony in May before Casey killed Caylee. We are all giving this girl WAY too much credit. Casey is just a silly little girl who happened to start liking a guy who was not into her kid. He was about to cut ties with her because he couldn’t handle not being able to see her on a regular basis. The whole thing is totally pathetic and I caught myself blushing while reading because I know she was lying about all of it- her babysitter and her job and her moving in to a house…..all of it. The fight between her and Cindy was just fuel to the fire. Everything else that happened after the fact is when her family stepped in and assisted her in covering up her poor attempts of getting away with murder. The whole fam damily is ignorant and I have a feeling they are going to lose a lot more than just Casey in all this. Thanks Blink…..mad skills!!!!!!!!
#617 Kleat — You can tell the men out-number the females in my household…:) apologies, but you still are an incredible contributor!
Hi, Blink: Where is your piece on Annie & Zanni’s excellent adventure? Can you please post a link ….I’m afraid I missed that one & still trying to play catch up.
Thanks-NG/Boston
Ok, curious, if JP hates Cassey, Caylee looks like JP, this is pure speculation that I can’t find info to rule out much less in, but could JP’s FATHER be Caylee’s father? I can’t find his name much less a connection but someone has to be the father of caylee!
NGfromBos, look to post # 357 for a link, or you can find it right here without going over to SM site, by clicking on the name Zenaida Gonzalez on Blink’s CATEGORIES list, on this page, top left. That links to all the articles with the name ZG in it, scroll down until you see the Z and A adventure article and you are there.
Simple!
I’m so happy to see the last few comments about giving Casey too much credit. I have thought that all along, and attempted to convey that many times. I agree that she was just caught in a situation where the child who was initially unwanted, became even more so. While I still believe she tried to pre-plan a few things here and there, ultimately I believe it was the fight with Cindy that sent her over the edge. The boyfriend didn’t want kids, especially female ones, not to mention that his place was one of the only ones that for the first time Caylee wasn’t necessarily welcomed with open arms. I also think that the fight was just what Casey needed to kill Caylee to spite Cindy. However, I also have believed from the beginning that she intended on killing George and Cindy as well as Caylee. Household weapons in her mind could have been a gas leak, fire, who knows with her crazy thinking. She let Amy believe she was moving in, right up to the point Amy moved her things in storage and waited for the day she could move them to the Anthony’s.
While I realize there are many unanswered questions, the one that remains clear to me is that this was an intentional act, whether it was well thought out or not, it was coming one way or another. Timing just happened to be the night of the fight. I don’t believe for a second George saw Caylee on the 16th as he stated. For many reasons, but most importantly, I still stand behind the information that was found about the cooking show he claimed to be watching, which btw, has been proven that it wasn’t on any channel, any time slot, any state, etc.
Alllllll of this aside, all the hard evidence, and all the circumstantial evidence combined will hang her. I’ve always felt strongly that circumstantial is just a defense strategy. Evidence is evidence regardless. If there were no crime whatsoever, there would be NO evidence, circumstantial or otherwise. Most importantly for me, and I would assume for any jury will be the opening line for the prosecution and the one they harp on many times. This mother didn’t report her child missing for 31 days, nor would she have then if it hadn’t been for Cindy, which btw has been trying to take that second in time back ever since. No innocent person doesn’t report their child missing…..period. No other evidence or explanation needed for me, and I’m assuming the same for any normal, clear thinking jury. Everything after that statement would just be more nails in the coffin so to speak.
#528 i was actually starting to think that way myself,(its almost a cryptic confession) and she’d rather take the needle than ADMIT what she did ,if she admits what she did gets the needle anyway.but its cindy i dont get cindy is so so so mentally ill(covering up casey’s pregnancy the way she did ) or guilty of something .
Hey NGfromBos,
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%E2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/
Hey Maura, There are things I think I know and those I know I know. I promise you that this is one I know I know. I did look on the other site and was no longer able to find it. It will be a thorn in my paw.
I also want to add that the reporter then asked him where it was that she was employed. LA chuckled and said that he would not/could not/was not ready to say.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%E2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/
#527
Wendy, what cooking show did Geo say he was watching, and how did you find it out? I’ve been very curious about that and I’d love to know!
Blink mom and I have been discussing this case again. I was reading the comments re: The zg and annie excellent adventure articke and your excellent investigation into thr traffic ticket and that casey also met tonyl that very night and we were wondering if you recall the diane downs case? The bushy haired stranger and her shooting her kids because she was obsessed with a married co worker who did not want kids? We were wondering if you noticed a teensy resemblance with this case?
I am familiar, but no, I dont think there is any correllation
B
I am sure you must recall the diane downs story and the book written afterwords “small sacrifices”? It bears an eerie resemblance to this case. Because diane was also narcisstic and we have felt for some time that caylee was also sacrifice. Diane and casey both show the same lack of affect.after their crime. Makes me wonder what kind of books casey read if she read books?
It was the 03/08???diary entry caseY wrote that made us think of that case of diane downs.casey was writing about a sacrifice she made don’t you think?
#530 – Wendy; & #535 – Suz; Long ago, on another crime blog, there was talk about George having mantioned a specific cooking show as the one he was watching on that afternoon when he last saw Caylee. No one on that blog ever actually mentioned the name of the show/chief, as no one could remember it. I was never sure whether they were refering to a media interview or an LE interview wherein George was so specific. I have never heard/read it in any of my research, but I was unaware of the case until last Fall, so it may have been an early media interview that I missed.
Wendy, I also would be grateful if you know a verifiable reference to it.
OOps, I was refering to comments 630 & 635 (Wendy & Suz) in my last post.
Ok thanks for respomding just noticed a similarity bewteen those two perps. Btw we are big fans of your work here, how you give victims of crime a voice when they are no longer able to. And how you strive to honor them. Ty
Thanks, Annals—I have always wondered what show he said he was watching (I think it was one he watched regularly). I love cooking shows myself. And of course I wonder if it checks out…!
Re: The diary entry (there is no mention of sacrifice)
In February 2009, a photograph of what appears to be a diary opened to the first (current) entry was released in a batch of Casey Anthony case discovery. There is no listing for a diary on the evidence lists, and there is no mention of this diary page in any OCSO investigative reports. The photograph was simply released without any commentary.
The left page appears to be the inside cover of the diary, and the following is written in red ink:
‘03
Everyday Is A Brand New Beginning
CARPE DIEM
– SEIZE THE DAY –
The right page appears to be the first current entry (prior pages appear to have been removed), and the writing is also in red ink:
“June 21
I have no regrets, just a bit worried. I just want for everything to work out okay. I completely trust my own judgement. I know that I made the right decision. I just hope that the end justifies the means. I just want to know what the future will hold for me. I guess I will soon see.
This is the happiest that I have been in a very long time. I hope that my happiness will continue to grow.
I’ve made new friends that I really like. I’ve surrounded myself with good people.
I am finally happy, let’s just hope that it doesn’t change.”
The release of the photograph of the diary entry set off a great deal of speculation because some media outlets released a cropped photograph in which the left-page “’03” notation was missing. Furthermore, the fact that it was released in a discovery set meant that many people immediately believed that the June 21 diary entry was written in 2008, just days after Caylee’s disappearance on June 16. Even when the ’03 cover date was considered, the appearance of missing pages between the left-hand, inside front cover and the right-hand page with the June 21 entry raised the possibility in the online community that the entry was written in a year later than 2003.
Since the photograph was released without any commentary from OCSO or the SAO, the public could only guess about the reasons why the investigators photographed the diary entry or about any additional information the investigators may have found regarding the diary. It could be that OCSO found entries written after the June 21 entry that made it clear to investigators that the entries had been written prior to 2008, which is why they photographed the page yet why the diary itself did not appear on any evidence list.
It is my opinion that the investigators knew the June 21 diary entry had not been written in 2008 but they photographed that entry because it provides a glimpse into Casey’s general mindset relative to her willingness to let ‘the end justifying the means’ when her happiness is at stake. The OCSO investigators thought the diary entry was interesting, so they photographed it for the prosecutors to look at. Once the prosecutors looked at it, even if they knew they would never use it as evidence, it had to be turned over to the defense, and once turned over to the defense, it was subject to public release via Florida’s Sunshine Law.
Yuri Melich’s supplemental investigative report dated February 5 does not mention the diary even while it contains several photographs of “dealing with tantrum” pages that were bookmarked in a parenting book found in Casey’s room during the same search that turned up the diary. The report notes that the parenting book was not taken into evidence but the pages were photographed for documentation. The investigators appear to have had a similar opinion of the diary entry – that it should be photographed for documentation but not taken into evidence.
I do not believe the entry was written in 2008. The handwriting in the June 21 diary entry has an overall similarity to the handwriting in Casey’s July 15 four-page OCSO statement, but there are some notable differences in the handwriting. In particular, I was struck by the changes in the letter “w.” In the June 21 entry, the w’s are rounded (like two connected U’s) whereas in the July 15 entry, the w’s are sharp and pointed (like two connected V’s). There are a few other differences, mainly in the letter “s” when it appears at the beginning or in the middle of a word, but the w’s are so consistently and markedly different that I do not believe the two handwritten samples were written a mere 24 days apart.
Perhaps the diary was a Christmas 2003 gift (hence the date in the inner cover) that she barely used, then in June 2004, she tore out the initial entries and wrote the June 21 entry. The decision she didn’t regret could refer to her decision to take a full-time job at Universal (starting June 23, 2004) and not complete her high school degree in summer school. Or maybe she lied on her Universal application and claimed she had graduated (the end justified the means).
Perhaps she wrote the entry in June 2005 when she decided to tell her family about her third-trimester pregnancy and the reference to the ends justifying the means referred to her decision to make Jesse Grund believe he was the father when she knew he was not. Richard Grund said he met Casey for the first time in June 2005 and she was visibly pregnant but denied it. He said shortly after he met her, she sent Jesse a text message saying she was pregnant with his child. The “good people” could refer to the Grunds.
Maybe the entry was written in June 2006 and referenced her decision to break her engagement with Jesse Grund (and take up with a new boyfriend). She and Jesse became engaged on January 1, 2006 and the engagement lasted six months. Richard Grund said prior to their break-up, he looked at Casey’s MySpace page and saw that she was dating someone else even while she was engaged to Jesse.
If the entry was written in June 2007, she had just broken up with Chris Stutz and started dating Steve Jones. She also had just met Ricardo, JP, Amy, etc., at a birthday party on June 5 in Oviedo at the house Amy and Troy rented together. They could be the “new friends” she referred to.
At any rate, Brad Conway said on LKL in May 2009 that he has the diary in his office. If the prosecutors believed the June 21 entry had evidentiary value in the upcoming trial, they would have taken it and put it through some forensic tests to help date it (such as ink testing).
#612 ren and rj,yea i dont know that for sure (that george is or isn’t casety’s real father)i did hear that early on and seems other posters seem to think something like was at least a rumor),i am re reading everything so if i find anything i’ll let you know.
annals and suz,
It might take me alllll day and alllll night, but I WILL find out the cooking show information for you. ha! God knows I will have to dig back further than I can imagine, but at the time I was big into reading investigation discovery, that’s where we discussed it many times. It was so very, very many posts ago, like maybe half a million even? Ugh, lol, but I’ll do my best to find it for you. Just didn’t want you to think I didn’t recognize your request. I shall return, hopefully with answers
Wendy, Annals and Suz-
I remember that the cooking show was mentioned on a Greta Van Sustern interview I believe. Hopefully this will help you find it quicker.
D
Denise, I heard that GvSustern interview, unless there’s something more, no specifics of what cooking show or episode.
Maura, Cindy said that she had the diary all along, not LE. So that’s how Conway would have got it.
re: cooking show, it’s pretty open-ended, a cooking show was obviously ‘on’, he watched in the past during that time slot (or named the time slot ‘because’ he often watched FoodTv and could easily know a show and time to relate to his story, if he is not telling the truth about the 16th ‘last day’). And there are a ton of re-runs, especially summers, so that could be covered to be familiar with an episode.
So, it would come down to whether he said ‘what show/episode contents’ were on to support whether he actually was watching a specific show at the time Casey left. LE may not have wanted to treat his story as ‘suspect’ at the time, they needed him to be buddy-buddy, so maybe would not have asked for verification of his timeline.
Only if it could be proven that this specific show (if named, and remember George likes to ‘clarify’ aka ‘change’ his answers, as Cindy does) was not on, could not have been seen, or the whole Food-TV, or cable network was ‘down’ during that period of time in the Hopespring neighbourhood, would this do more than suggest a bad memory or an attempted lie about last seeing Caylee. The way George can ‘switch up’ a story after the fact is well documented from M&M depos. (the term ‘switch up’ is a saying from a Food-Tv baking show host that is not available in Florida, btw
Here’s the cooking show link page 10 http://tinyurl.com/lfa5z9
He says he knows for a dog gone fact that it was 10 minutes till 1 the last time he saw them because he was watching this food channel thing that he watches between noon and 1.
The only cooking shows that come on from noon to 1 in Tampa are on the food network 12-12:30 is Paula’s Home Cooking and 12:30-1 and Everyday Italian.