Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Caylees Autopsy Revelations Part I

Orlando, FL– Under heavy objection last Friday afternoon, Judge Stan Strickland denied the motion on behalf of George and Cindy Anthony to seal Caylee Marie Anthonys autopsy until their daughter Caseys capital murder trial in their granddaughters death. Late Friday afternoon, the Findings of Dr. Jan Garavaglia, Chief Medical Examiner of Orange County were released. In Part I, we explore a few of the notable findings, In Development for Part II, Blinkoncrime will be is creating an interactive 3D Model, incorporating the evidence recovery field, bone disbursement pattern, and anatomical example of the duct tape placement.

The Laundry Bag

WhitneyLaundryBagAlthough the report contains a significant amount of anthropologic and forensic data, it does not contain photos or X-Rays, pursuant to the Earnhardt exclusion under Florida Law. Blinkoncrime.com will attempt to offer some observations and in some cases, correct some erroneous information that is being reported in the msm. For starters, the laundry bag picture being circulated, it is incorrect, the image to the left is the correct bag, note the dimensions are exact. The top of this bag does not cinch.

The Duct Tape

I have seen rampant speculation on the duct tape beginning around 15 minutes following the release of the report.  DuctThere are many who believe that Casey Anthony killed her child by wrapping her nose and mouth with duct tape. Allow me to point out the report actually reflects the antithesis of this theory. First, there IS NO TAPE ON THE POSTERIOR of her skull. The only posterior placement of the tape mentioned is still located on the mandible, or face. The tape, which was actually small strips of grey cloth-based, delaminating tape is applied on top of itself, not really feasible with a live toddler. Given the findings that Caylee’s mandible stayed in almost true anatomical position, although slightly posterior and that the hair that was attached to the tape extended from the back of her head and over her head and face, it is likely Caylee was laying on her back when the tape was applied.  Henkel makes 2 kinds of duct tape, one is more Industrial grade of adhesive “hot set” over cloth designed for waterproof and outdoor projects. It has not yet been disclosed which formulation was used.

The O Sign

A contributing poster at blinkoncrime gave me something to think about that had not occurred to me. I am on record stating I do believe that Casey Anthony murdered her daughter, and that she will end up pointing the finger at one or both of her parents as a defense strategy.

However, the duct tape never really fit for me. I have always believed it to be a post mortem tactic to stage a kidnapping. I do believe I may have been wrong. Very well known to medical and critical care professionals, there is something called an O effect; occurring at very near death, or shortly following death and before rigormortis sets in.

Some medical people refer to it when the person is very near death or has just died–the jaw drops open. Nothing left to hold the mandible shut. In morgue kits there is a strap that is applied around the jaw to gently close it before rigor sets in. This “O” sign can be very pronounced and unsettling to see first hand. Casey probably wasn’t aware of this and was really spooked by this silent scream and used the duct tape then put a heart sticker on it as a ________

This makes sense to me. The tape is applied in small strips across the nose and mouth areas, catching her hair in the face over the Coronal plane region. One interpretation that may be drawn is that Caylee was lying on her back, upon seeing what Casey had done to her child as evidenced by the relaxed mandible; she attempted to “fix her”. As if covering up the evidence of death on her baby would change things, complete with a heart sticker. No sooner did I arrive at this conclusion on Saturday, did I see Dr.Michael Baden appear on Geraldo Live on Sunday evening bringing up the mortuary kit issue. I am not saying this idea originated here, not that it would be the first time, but it at least tells me there is corroboration within the forensic Medical community as to the premise. The FBI report on the duct tape has not been released. One thing is certain, what I have been stating all along about Casey’s prints being on the duct tape seems foreboding. With multiple strips of tape, chances are there are several. The defense has had this report for months, is this why Casey Anthony retained Todd Macaluso?

Swim Diaper?

There are several remnants recovered that are described as a diaper or pull ip item. However, there are a few that appear to be strictly synthetic. When I read the report, my immediate reaction based on some of the coloring was that it was a “swimmie”, or disposable swim diaper. After mapping out the dimensions and a closer look, I believe it is actually referring to remnants of both a pull up, a reusable swim diaper, or swim floation/assistance device or both, as pictured here:

CayleeSwim2 CayleeSwim-1 SwimDiaper-2

PrincessDiaper Diapergarbage

Paper Towels

Simply stated there is decomposition fluid on paper towels in the plastic garbage bag found in her trunk that came from Tony Lazzarros apartment.

In my opinion, Casey ripped the bag Caylees remains were in when she moved her body into or out of the trunk to her final resting place in the woods off Suburban. The stain in the trunk, emitting the ungodly stench, was the target of the paper towels after Casey returned to TonE’s apartment. She brought the paper towels and garbage bag out with her in an attempt to clean it up and realized almost immediately it was an excerise in futility. Immediately following are her comments to Amy about George Anthony borrowing her car, and the infamous squirrel stowaway story.

Her Clothes

In contrast to only a stitching remnant with a manufactures tag left of her shirt, Caylees shorts were found nearly 2 ft ft away from the laundry bag, in relatively good condition. Based on the reports findings of trunk and femural animal activity and the corresponding recovery area, I am of the opinion that it is not possible that Caylee was wearing those shorts when she was dumped in the woods. Frankly, given the fact that the actual color stripe pattern was discernable versus the condition of the other items, I am suspect Casey was in those woods more than once. How do you get only the collar of a shirt remaining and her shorts completely intact with no noted damage? Lastly, Caylees shoes if she were wearing any, were not recovered.

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  1. FairestWitness says:

    Blink, defense attorney John Burris was on Nancy Grace last night saying he thinks Candace Watson was within her parental rights to take her daughter with her on this trek and that she’d only lose custody temporarily of her daughter, Haylee. Of course NG raked him over the coals for his views.

    I don’t think parental rights or prerogatives can supercede the rights of their children. This mom needs to be put in prison and should never have contact with her daughter again. What a total POS.

    Her brother and the father of Haylee are in custody because they aided & abetted Robbie Potter’s escape from the halfway house he was just released from prison to. Why would these two felons do that? What’s so great about this tier 3 sex offender that this family felt compelled to help him escape and to put him in Haylee’s proximity? Poor Haylee, both of her parents are garbage. It’s just like poor, little Nevaeh Buchanan.

    What is going on with America’s parents today/
    Hes an ass.
    B

  2. Steph says:

    I have a legal question that maybe someone can answer. Does the prosecution do depos on witnesses? Or just the defense?

  3. FairestWitness says:

    Yes, he is a thoroughly nasty man. I rarely respect his opinion on anything. I wonder why he’s on Nancy Grace so often.

  4. suz says:

    Blink, a fourth piece of duct tape (Q100) was later found at the remains site in addition to the three pieces of duct tape cut away from the skull (Q62-Q64—which were provided to the FBI by the M.E. so I assume they are the ones from the skull).

    I was thinking that if the child were alive at the time, wouldn’t she try to claw the tape off as a natural instinct? Now perhaps duct tape is too difficult for a toddler to remove, or could it be that her hands were restrained? If so, does the fourth piece of Henkel brand duct tape (especially if it is the “long piece of duct tape” on pg. 3402), found at the remains site suggest this? If not, any theories as to this additional piece of tape that was not discovered or recovered at the same time as the skull?

    You will find additional references to this fourth piece of duct tape on pp. 3744 and on 3423: One piece of duct tape, Henkel Consumer Adhesives, submitted to the FBI as Q100 (the duct tape was located on the scene by ASL Rodriguez at 1148 hours—-I believe on Dec. 13)

    Then there are these pieces described on pg. 3402—not sure how they relate to the Q numbers above:
    D1: Piece of duct tape “Henkel Consumer Adhesives” item# H-60493, tag #16
    D2: 2 pieces of duct tape item# J-60013, tag #5
    D3: Long piece of duct tape, item# J-60013, tag #4

    On the skull tape, I figure the reason Q62-Q64 were overlapping is because they kept going on crooked–one covered the mouth but missed the nose, next one covered one nostril but missed the other, third one got all the openings covered).

    One other tape question: I know the FBI’s latent print unit dicovered the heart shaped residue on the tape, but when I read this description from the remains scene, it seems hard to believe: “Duct tape was lying on the front of the skull, over the mouth area. The exterior non-sticky side of the duct tape at the front of the skull appeared to have worn away.” (3415)

  5. Kate says:

    Hi Steph. Either side can take a deposition during discovery (after charging documents are filed).

  6. Kleat says:

    EtOH you’re right is ethyl alcohol. Kids would learn that term from chemistry lab class. (btw it is simply pronounced saying each letter) Guess the term has an added party drinking use now meaning ‘alcohol’ drinks– you don’t want to drink the stuff in the lab.

    Speaking of alcohol as in ‘partying’, there’s a photo of Casey’s drinking buds (the tattoo crew?) with a bottle of Absinth, a shot glass, and a packet of something that ‘goes with’. Sugar cube was the traditional ‘go with’ accessory. What are they holding up? Do they mix what is in the packet (doesn’t look like Sweet’n'Lo or Equal or a sugar package)? This is off-topic, but since we are on the EtOH topic as a new ‘ booze’ term, anyone know?

    MackenzieMom, thanks for the explanation!

  7. Kleat says:

    MidWestMom, are you speculating that KioMarie had Caylee all along, killed her because why?? Did KioMarie have opportunity to kill the baby?

    Are you saying that not turning over phone records ‘wholesale’ to the defense (all, broad, like others, Amy, Dominic Casey, Kronk, who else… long list) is necessary and if they say there has to be limits to the request so refusing ‘until’, that this shows guilt?

    Selling her story to the tabloid was plain DUMB!! Or was it… her credibility is a bit of a wash now to be used against Casey and Casey doesn’t need her to testify on behalf of her.

  8. Kleat says:

    I don’t think Casey would target a female, I think she would target ‘dumb, stupid boys’. (didn’t she say that in her text messages, ie: to Amy? Or was that to impress Amy… who knows).

  9. Kleat says:

    Will the bullet casing come into the evidence at trial? That would be a good way to tie one of the ‘academy’ crew of BF’s to the death, Casey was at the firing range, easy to pick up a spent casing with prints on it. And the kitchen knife, was it from the Anthony home or could it be another red herring ‘plant’ that she could have picked up from some home like Stutz’s parents, or Grund, or…

  10. Ashley Marie says:

    I swear I posted my question of Etoh before all of the answers came out, not after…… *glares at B*

    *wink*

    Yes, but “wink” back, that is different than doing the legwork :)
    B

  11. martha says:

    #171—annals—i agree too with what you said about not using zanax–that she didnt really have to as everything was basically “ok” until the big fight. serial boyfriends that didnt want child etc came into play like you said later. i think zanny the nanny and just picking out zaneida from a name at the apartment complex was kind of like a private joke for Casey. i am not as skilled at figuring things out like so many of you guys are so please excuse if thoughts seem farfetched. thanks

  12. FairestWitness says:

    FYI fellow “Blinkers”, the drug referred to is XANAX, spelled with an “X” but prounounced with a “Z” (zan – ex). Xanax (alprazolam) is a benzodiazepine used to treat anxiety and panic disorder. It’s a tranquilizer.

  13. Kleat says:

    Ashley Marie, the ‘oh’ is captitalized… like the chemical symbols for Oxygen and Hydrogen. The t is small because it’s short for Ethyl.

    Yeah Blink!! Dickens you say!! Love that guy “got a police officer here, get dressed!!” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSBGyYFwtTk (I’d read it or heard it ages ago, but forgot about it and many thanks for the hint!!! Glad to have listened to that now.

  14. annals says:

    “one of the ‘academy’ crew of BFs” – Kleat; funny.

    When I use knives to cut tape, adhesive quickly builds up on the blade and it’s difficult to remove without solvent. I have a special product to clean the knife I use to open boxes. (GooGone – great stuff). Maybe Casey used that knife to cut the tape off the roll and tossed it into the bag because it had gooey evidence on it. Ah, well then the document would have mentioned the residue, it’s obvious to the naked eye.

    I wondered about the phraise in the documents; ‘the exterior…of the duct tape at the front of the skull appeared to have worn away’ (3415). Sounded ominous to me, but also if the exterior is worn away, how is residue from the heart sticker still there?

    Could some abraisive activity have occurred which wore the exterior, before the heart sticker was applied?

  15. Kleat says:

    Wouldn’t it be perfect for someone to set their media contacts, onto witnesses, to get them a highpaying interview… who would have those types of media contacts, no one in the Anthony family– oh, yeah right, there was someone who even had the media contacts to help other family get attention for missing children (link back to Blink’s story about Cindy on the last morning talk show).

    Perfect to use the most incredible of the tabloids, to do it too. I think Kiomarie made a mistake, but maybe she felt threatened, maybe putting her story out in public made her feel safer– would you want Cindy coming at you????

  16. Steph says:

    Thanks Kate! I know I can always get answers to my questions on this site! Best one around, IMO. Blink you’re awesome!

  17. renandrj says:

    #247 I think/thought accident but then I read things like your post and I change my mind again to no accident. I guess the only reason I ever thought accident is because I figured she didn’t want the blame the rest of her life so decided to make up the fake Nanny story and then got so far into it with the lies that she actually convinced herself that the lies were true. Then I figured she originally thought everyone would buy the Nanny story and Casey would walk away Scott free and once she realized no one is buying it she had already dug herself into a huge hole that she could not at that time say “just kidding, she drowned by accident”.

  18. June Bug says:

    # 161 Comment by Charlotte — June 24, 2009 @ 1:50 pm

    THANK YOU FOR ASKING THIS VERY QUESTION! I was wondering the exact same thing and was just googling to try and figure it out. I’m afraid of getting blasted on here for not being as knowledgeable as some of the other readers. I used to think I knew great details regarding this case but this site has humbled me dearly. Makes sense why Lee went into hiding and his odd behaviour.

    I love when readers ask the same questions I’m too chicken shat to ask.

    Peace.

  19. annals says:

    #261; Thanks Martha. I did a lot of reading earlier on in the case in order to to get a perspective on the possible use of zanax as a babysitter substitute. The concept of a drugged toddler in the trunk of Casey’s car on a repeated basis just seemed implausible to me. It also did’t seem to square with the healthy, alert kid Caylee seems to have been.

    Although in questioning friends and family about the whereabouts of Casey & Caylee; the OCSO detectives covered May & early June, I just couldn’t find any recorded instances wherein Caylee wasn’t either with Casey or Cindy before June 16.

    It irks me when I read (or hear in the media) outrageous theories stated AS IF factual. That doesn’t happen here too much. Blink tends to call it out and ask for references or explanations; for which I am grateful.

  20. annals says:

    OOps, Fair, thanks for the spelling. My last post got in before I saw yours, I was not ignoring your help.

  21. annals says:

    Suz; #254; I did not mean to scoop your excellant post in my reference to the worn tape & the heart sticker residue. In rereading your post, I realize you were already asking that question. Not to mention the interesting points you alluded to concerning the other pieces of tape found at the scene.

  22. Riddlemethis says:

    Annals post #264- Not sure if it’s the most up to date FBI report, but they compared the knife residue to duct tape adhesive=no match. Was residue and think they are keeping knife for other possible residue comparisons. I just ran across that a few minutes ago looking for tape ref in post 254. and still can’t find those exact pages, but did find more on my own question re: hair tests, which means either I’m just being stupid about the May report (could well be :) since FBI cleared hair in Dec report. (eyes rolling…head spinning) Anyway…

    pg 18 of 24 in pdf frames: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19342108/detail.html

    It’s been said before, but there is sooooo much info here it’s mind boggling.

  23. suz says:

    Re: the knife, according to the FBI report, no matching duct tape residue was found in the sticky residue on knife Q242 (5598)

    No worries, annals—great minds think alike, as they say! But I just assumed the exterior of the duct tape had simply weathered away. Maybe the heart sticker preserved it a bit longer (the plastic heart sticker protected it from the elements for a bit, before it too washed off and adhered to a piece of cardboard)? Dunno!

  24. Wendy says:

    I’ve seen a couple of posts regarding the use of the term ETOH, and just thought I’d add this….. Years ago, I was a Paramedic, during which one thing we learned was the term ETOH. In that particular field, and I’m guessing LE as well, we were required to ONLY use ETOH when referring to someone in a car accident, fight, etc. Anytime alcohol may have been involved, that’s the way it was reported and/or talked about amongst each other. It had to do with the legal aspect of it. You’re not legally allowed to assume and/or flat out accuse or say that someone is drunk, or I smell alcohol, on the off chance a bystander is listening. Privacy laws ya know. I’m assuming they think the everyday jo walking by or stopping at a wreck might not understand the term. Just thought I’d throw out that F.Y.I

  25. suz says:

    Blink mentions two kinds of Duck Brand duct tape made by (or at least sold by) Henkel. Their site shows 5 grades, one of which (Professioal grade) “tears easily by hand” according to the site. Perhaps Blink was able to eliminate some of them tho and narrow it down to two?

    Grades of Duck® Tapes

    Ultimate Duck® Tape
    Industrial Grade Duck® Tape
    Professional Grade Duck® Tape
    All-Purpose Grade Duck® Tape
    Utility Grade Duck® Tape

    http://duckproducts.com/products/subcategory.asp?CatID=1&SubID=1

  26. nickel says:

    Blink..do you think Casey left something behind on purpose on July 3rd for someone to find as a clue or to set someone up?? Was that yardwork on July 4th pre-planned or a sudden whim?? Can’t find an answer to that. Also, do you think the family knew where little Caylee was when Casey was out on bail staying at the house??
    Oh Blink…I am still trying to figure out this Stephanie girl..works at Amscot (as far as i know, not the one where Casey left the car, but she may know someone who works at that location also), best friends with Jesus and friends with Casey and crew, no interview released etc. Found it odd that out of all her “friends” at that early point, Stephanie was the one to try and visit Casey in jail (also Will Waters??). Do we know if Casey has had any contact with Tony L. or anyone else recently?? (sure there is a VERY slim chance ANYONE would speak with her). Thanks:)

  27. annals says:

    I am a (heretofore) secret Lee Anthony sympathizer. Now I’m otta the closet with that.

    I think his ‘out of the lense of the media’ stance of late (and for some time now) is normal. I kinda like his attorney, too. Yes, I know that some of his responses in the M&M deposition seem strange, but he answered all the questions, didn’t he? I’m guessing he knows/knew more than he’s told, but if so, I’m pretty sure he’ll be picked apart about it. I’ll bet he thinks that’s gunna happen, too. And I think that should happen.

    I don’t know how easily or with what difficulty he has managed it, but his absence in the media surely proves that it can be done and by an Anthony, no less. (I wonder whether Brad Conway has taken notice of this?)

  28. annals says:

    Thanks, Suz & Riddle, about the residue on the knife. You’re right. I’m not waivering on my statement about the GoGone, tho.

    Wendy, interesting info on paramedics and uttering the word alcohol!

  29. Riddlemethis says:

    Suz- You have a link for those page numbers you’re referencing in p254 ? I don’t print them out, and none of the sites I’m using ref. links by actual pg#, only release dates,etc. Great post, but trying to find those exact pgs is driving me bonkers. Help!! TY.
    R

  30. annals says:

    Hi Nickel; did you notice, in his LE interview, Will Waters told them that he was quite taken with Casey when he met her and wanted to get together with her again after his 1st “date” with her. Perhaps he felt sympathy for her regardless of the awful crime she’s accused with. He liked her. He didn’t claim to know her well, so mightn’t have felt betrayed by what she did and didn’t reveal to him.

    In contrast, Tony Lazarro was her boyfriend and implied feeling betrayed when he text messaged; “I was your boyfriend who cared about you. And you didn’t tell me your daughter was missing.”

  31. rita says:

    Blink, hi! I’m a reading FAN of your site and all your hard work. Bravo for all that you do!
    This could be very far-fetched and inaccurate thought, but does anyone think Casey could have removed a paver or two from underneath the playhouse, to sort of leave as a memorial marker at the site, (sorry-as grim as that idea is), where Caylee was found?

    I dont think its far fetched, I think Dom Casey was looking for it for a reason
    B

  32. nickel says:

    Annals…yes thanks, i did read that Will Waters interview. I agree he was certainly smitten with Casey. I also read that he was bringing her some phone numbers in jail (not sure if this is fact?) but then Casey denied his visit. Funny how she could never face anyone but her family at jail because she knew she could manipulate them oh so well.
    Anyone think there is any relevance to the fellow Patrick B. who Casey actually agreed to seeing in jail?? I assume she knew who the visitor was before she saw him but then she seemed to have very little clue who he was when they were face to face?? Why would she agree to that visit?? Also agree with you Annals on Tony feeling betrayed but was wondering if Casey has tried to reach out to him since July 16th..
    Just more interested in this Stephanie…seems she may have something to hide (or show to the prosecution). Also, still stuck on July 3rd and what was found and if it was left behind on purpose…

  33. Kleat says:

    Why couldn’t the defense ‘accident’ theory, be that the baby did it– got into something that poisoned her, like a bottle of pills. Cindy said how important ‘safety’ in and around the home was specifically for the baby, so every possible attempt was made to create the safest environment for the child, and lengths that Casey went to, to never even expose her baby to second-hand smoke etc. And it’s completely believable that a daughter of Cindy, would be ‘paralysed’ with fear of what her mother would think so created this ‘fantasy’ world that her daughter ‘never was’, or was in a ‘safe place’ and she coped by blanking the horrific accident out of her mind, going and using alcohol, drugs, partied to distraction.

    The tape then, if Casey’s prints are on it, would be explained as part of this cover-up of the accident.

    Cindy’s media behaviour shows that a daughter would be afraid to admit what happened on ‘her watch’ and how much of that is theatre for the cause.

  34. Kleat says:

    (not saying that a daughter like Casey, who fought with her mother, isn’t crushed emotionally easily, would really be fearful of Cindy, but instead she would be angry and fight back, but they can try to say poor Casey)

  35. nickel says:

    #229….you can add Stephanie Kostakis and Lauren Coppel to that list (unless anyone has seen these interviews)?? Also, anyone know where i can find the most recent list of witnesses for the state?? Curious to see if a few names are on there…thanks

  36. rita says:

    Thanks for the reply, Blink. I can visualize Casey prying a paver loose for such a purpose. I wonder if LE recovered it, (if indeed it was ever placed there), or if it was found and turned into authorities when Dr. G’s team were conducting their amazing work at the site.

  37. Riddlemethis says:

    Kleat,
    In theory your accident sounds plausible on the surface. I’m guessing it goes back to what we don’t know yet. Something made them put DP back on the table, and no pun intended, wasn’t by accident. I can’t imagine that was done to force a plea, but could be knaive on my part to think that way. Still think something specific in evidence had to “spur” it coming back.

  38. Riddlemethis says:

    ….and maybe the prints are what spurred the DP, and could still be explained, but still think there’s too much more we don’t know yet. Prosecution had to consider Def. trying to say accident from Day 1. Don’t you think?

    Not when you have a defendant who has pled not guilty prior to the remains recovery, and the recovery concludes that an accident is impossible. Vis E Vie, there are prints on the tape- must be the aggravating factor. The States Burden to seek the death penalty is intact, imo.
    B

  39. suz says:

    Riddlemethis, you are right—I should include links, as I have a devil of a time finding them again myself! I don’t even save them to my pc, like a dummy. But all of the discovery docs use those page numbers—look at the handwritten numbers on the bottom righthandside of the pages.

  40. suz says:

    Blink, how come when you and I read “no latent prints found,” you think it means they found kc’s but not lee, cin, or geo?

    I know you are going on this: Duct tape pieces Q62 – Q64 were examined by FBI along with K10 Elimination of George Anthony, K11 Elimination of Cindy Anthony, and K12 Elimination of Lee Anthony. Report says “The requested latent print examinations were conducted, but no latent prints were found.”
    (5582)

    But why are you so SURE as to what this means? Why dould it not mean that NO prints were found. Also, the report did not ask “well, did you find anyone other than the Ants?” It could after all be a killer who is not one of the anthonys. Would they not look for that?

    I am just curious as I am puzzled by the wording.
    That is specifically what it is designed to do. If they did not find any prints, who would they need to eliminate them from in the first place. There has to be a latent to compare for elimination purposes in the first place.
    B

  41. nickel says:

    Frank McKeever?? Blink, should i continue this path?? What i found so far is very interesting..just not sure if it is relevant??
    Lol, I am beginning to heart Nickel.
    Group, wanna field this one?
    B

  42. jenn says:

    I was just reviewing old transcripts on http://www.cnn.com/ng and was reviewing cindy”s first interview with ng 7/17 and 7/18 I caught the remark ca made about how kc came back to the house to um get some things after she left with caylee. Seems eerie now

  43. susan says:

    blink,was there a life insurance policy on caylee? how much is the cheapest funeral,burial? money is a major part of this ,imo

  44. nickel says:

    Uh oh….did i miss the boat on this one already?? Sorry Blink:) Am i starting to annoy you with my endless questions??

  45. Patty says:

    Ref. post 281 I’m thinking the same thing as rita with the cement pavers, being used to mark where the body was left hence Dominic Casey kept looking for pavers. And it seems like I remember Cindy saying that some pavers were moved or missing (this was around the time the cadaver dogs were used)

  46. Kosmo says:

    One thing keeps running through my mind that someone commented about… Caylee was getting more verbal.. Able to “talk” more about things around her. I have wondered over and over what could she have possibly done with that poor girl when she would go out.. It just makes my heart break thinking of the possiblities..

    I have 2 little boys and their grandma lives with us and I can tell you that daily when they get home she asks them about their day and what did they do at daycare ect.. they talk, by name, about the provider and the other kids at daycare and this has been since they were in their twos…

    You can not tell me Cindy or George didn’t ask her about her days or what she did and with who and would have some kind of concern about the responses.. I mean RIGHT??? Am I way off and my family is just totally different and nosey??

  47. annals says:

    uh,Nickle, plese tell what you found on Frank McKeever. I don’t think you missed the boat. From Blinks responce, looks like it’s an iceburg – bigger than a boat. I’m gunna go search.

  48. NoseyRosey says:

    Ok- the 3rd of July…….Cindy supposedly went to Universal looking for Caylee. This would be the point where she finds out- “I’m sorry Ma’am but Casey Anthony hasn’t worked here since ’06″. This is the moment they all knew things had gone wrong…..very wrong. Do you think they put this together along with the other “clues” they found at the house at this time? Someone from the Anthony home started calling Fusion around this same time too- George sits on his Gluteus Maximus everyday of the year except the July 4th holiday- this is the day he decides to replace a paver in their yard. What took place on the 3rd day of July Blink? You have to tell us.

  49. Kleat says:

    This the one and the same?? Casey’s age, Universal connection (Back to the Future character), Myspace page two years out of date… last login, Oct 18, 2007. Has Caylee’s wide arching eyebrows, wide eyes… (well, looks sort of like Lee’s eyes in the profile photo)

    http://www.myspace.com/mckeevercomedy

    She did not even know McSkeeve then.
    B

  50. Kleat says:

    remembering something about a ‘Casey story’ about a one night stand with a co-worker at Universal, no name given.

    Yeah you the Grand Cypress might be a good place to look I hear..
    B

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