Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Brad Conway Releasing New Evidence
Orlando, FL– Brad Conway, attorney for George and Cindy Anthony vows to release evidence during an 11 am press conference today in his office that raise “serious questions about this case”.
Following the release of the lastest round of discovery, Conway announced there were items that were supposed to be released by the State Attorney’s office yesterday, that were not.
Since Mr. Conway has no legal standing to release anything on behalf of the State Attorney’s office, it is surmised such information was supplied by his clients, George and Cindy. George and Cindy Anthony were previously represented by Orlando attorney Mark Nejame.
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Off topic, but 6 degrees of separation:
Did you see that the suspect in the David Letterman extortion/blackmail case is none other than a producer from the show 48 hours ? Robert J or Joe Halderman.
I, too, am rh negative. The only time it was ever a factor in my life was right after I gave birth to my son 37 years ago. Because of the rh neg, I needed to get some kind of special shot. Can’t even remembe why I needed it. The rh neg issue has never been mentioned again. And I, too, am average sized with blonde (now gray) hair and blue eyes.
Baez and Co. were just interviewed on The Today Show. The focus was the unidentified hair at the crime scene and the apparent lack of evidence. The spin doctors are working it. In their attempt to sway public opinion, I think they are just going to make the prosecution work harder. The strategy seems to be the same as the OJ defense but the difference is OJ went to trial in the fall after the murders in June. The prosecution didn’t have the time that they will in this case.
Go Richard Grund! You said that very well. Noone is buying what the Anthonys are selling. Its sad that you and your family have been caught up in this web of lies being told to free the murderer of their own grand daughter! It is amazing and cruel beyond belief how many people have been hurt by the choices this young mother made, and the subsequent choices of the grandparents to forsake honoring their granddaughter in choosing to lie for their daughter. The truth will shine through it all! Trust that!
#193-Kleat ““Okay, put yourself on the jury”…
Okay, I’m trying to look at this potential defense as objectively as possible.
As a juror, I don’t feel that the defense can play it both ways; an accident or some other perpetrator murdered Caylee simultaneously.
If it is going to be cast as an accident, and cover-up after the fact, I’d want to hear the circumstances and some remorse from Casey. I think that she’d have to take the stand. I think that everyone has to remember that it is beyond reasonable doubt; reason being the key word, not beyond a shadow of a doubt. If the defense is throwing out: it could be a murder by someone else, but wait, it could have been an accident in the presence of my client, and none of it is explained, that would really bother me. Even if I felt dazzled or confused by the deflection, and missing COD, perhaps I couldn’t go for 1st degree, but I would certainly opt for manslaughter with aggravated child abuse, without any testimony from Casey (based on what has been released so far) and of course, the charges of lying to police officers.
I would think, if it was only an accident, why wouldn’t the client take the stand to testify? I know that there is no obligation for the defendant to take the stand, but if they toss out a possible accident, and no regret is established, it leads me to believe that the client doesn’t want to take responsibility for any actions, and is likely hiding something. And it would bother me that others were potentially being implicated in a non-crime, so that the defendant could walk. Then I would think, if there is no acknowledgment of regret or bad decisions in disposing of a baby’s body, and not calling authorities, setting up a fake kidnapping after the fact, etc., what is to stop this person from committing the same acts in the future?
My opinion, only, obviously.
To quote Elmer Fudd…”Be vewy, vewy quiet. I’m hunting wabbit”. RhNeg wabbit that is! I too am RhNeg and despite my families protests, normal too.
Where is Maura and Silver? They both can’t be on vacation at the same time. We won’t allow it. Anyhoo, I miss them. Come home soon!
Lol Maybe they are one and the same!!
Lol, me too.
B
# 163-suz-Comment by suz — October 1, 2009 @ 3:21 pm
What if they really think she’s innocent and feel she is being railroaded and tried in the court of public opinion, with the state sending out evidence that seems to damn her when maybe it isn’t quite so clear cut—as if trying to put the squeeze on her to make her plea? Then I can get why they would want to release evidence that raises doubt—and think it is fair for them to do so.
I get that too. But when they are looking for a “live Caylee” 2 months ago, but hang onto some other family’s childs ashes, then it pulls me towards extreme cover-up and knowledge of the circumstances. That kind of tilted it in another direction for me, especially since it has been rumored for some time that that was going to be an approach. Add to that no sense of outrage against the real killer. I understand helping Casey, if you believe she is being railroaded, however, if you follow this logic, some other perp not only killed their grandchild, but set into motion this entire situation where Casey ended up in jail. Why is there never any anger at the person or persons who actually caused all this bad stuff to happen to the family? Why no desperation to find them? Why is there even one millisecond devoted to digging up dirt on reporters that are inconsequential to the outcome of this case or apprehending a killer? Time wasted on making enemy lists?
I just want to say a couple things, although I would like to say a LOT more, just don’t have the time right now. I’m so SICK of the Anthony’s and Baez trying to spin this thing in Casey’s favor. I do NOT CARE if the tape at the house matches the tape on the skull. How about this Cindy…. Just the PLAIN AND SIMPLE FACT THAT THERE WAS DUCT TAPE ON YOUR GRANDCHILD’S SKULL…PERIOD…THE END!!!!!!!
I don’t want to hear the spin on the smell being pizza or that there was no smell. We all know there was/is a smell. How about this Anthony family…..THAT SMELL, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU CALL IT, WAS THE SMELL OF YOUR GRANDCHILD DECOMPOSING….PERIOD…THE END!!!
I don’t want to hear that it doesn’t matter that Casey lied, that Casey partied, that other people had access to the car….How about this Anthony’s/Baez…. NO ONE EARTH THAT GIVES A CRAP ABOUT THEIR CHILD WOULD EVEN BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF BED IF THEY WERE GONE, MUCH LESS GO PARTY, GET A TATT, TAKE PICTURES, GO THIEVING AT TARGET, ETC…PERIOD…THE END!!!
I don’t want to hear that there was a reason that will make sense why Caylee wasn’t reported missing for 31 days…How about this Anthony’s/Baez….FOLLOWING A SCRIPT AND NOT REPORTING A CHILD MISSING IS SOMETHING STRAIGHT OUT OF A FICTIONAL MOVIE/T.V. SHOW, NOT A SOUL ON THIS EARTH WOULD BUY THAT CRAP, NO ONE ON EARTH!!!!…IF THERE HAD BEEN A SCRIPT TO FOLLOW, THE FAKE NANNY WOULD HAVE ALSO ADDED IN THERE, NOT ONLY ARE YOU NOT TO REPORT IT, BUT WHEN YOU DO, DON’T USE MY NAME AND TYPE OF CAR, ADDRESS, ETC….GIVE ME A BIG OL’ FREAKIN’ BREAK….PERIOD…THE END!!!!
I could go on and on about how many million reasons Casey WILL BE CONVICTED….However, I don’t really need to do that, because the only person that believes that is Casey…. BECAUSE SHE IS DELUSIONAL, AND SHE IS BEING MISLED INTO BELIEVING SOMETHING SO RIDICULOUS. NO GOOD PARENT’S OR LAWYER WOULD CONTINUE TO MISLEAD THEIR CHILD/CLIENT WITHOUT AT THE VERY LEAST TELLING THEM IT’S A HUGEEEE POSSIBILITY SHE IS GOING TO GET DEATH, OR THE VERY LEAST, LWOP….PERIOD…THE END!!!!
I don’t want to hear that Baez is a good lawyer, or good person. He is neither…I say that because, I do understand that there is a need for defense lawyers…HOWEVER…knowing that someone intentionally killed their child would make me so sick that I would not only NOT be able to EVER be in the same room with that person again, but I would NEVER, EVER defend them, NO MATTER HOW RICH I THOUGHT I’D GET, OR EVEN IF I RISKED MY CAREER. IT’S SICK, AND ANYONE THAT INVOLVES THEMSELVES ON THE SIDE OF THAT MURDERER IS SICK AS WELL…PERIOD…THE END!!!!
Last but not least…In the beginning Cindy and George almost had me believing that they dearly loved Caylee. By the looks of her room, the toys she had, the clothes she had, etc. etc. I NO LONGER believe that. Cindy and George love Cindy and George. Casey hates them, and Cindy is in this thing to make herself try and look good to the public, she doesn’t want to have a murderer for a daughter, but that’s just what she got. As for her loving Caylee…Pffftttt. It was all a BIG SHAM, IMO, she was doing all she did and buying all those things for Caylee for one reason….To make herself look good. To show Casey, or whomever….Look what a good Mommy I can be. I can be a better Mom than Casey. Look at what I can buy her, look at how well I can take care of her. It wasn’t love, it was some type of weird, sick obsession, an attempt to once again show everyone what a picture perfect family she had, when in fact it was so far from the truth it’s ridiculous….Period…The End!!!!
Let me end this with what it takes, or what it means to love a child/grandchild…..If a child that you truly loves goes missing…You are DEVASTATED!!!! YOU CANNOT EAT, YOU CANNOT SLEEP, YOU CANNOT HARDLY BREATHE. YOU DO NOT SPEND YOUR TIME ATTEMPTING TO FIND WAYS TO FRAME PEOPLE THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DEATH OF YOUR PRECIOUS CHILD/GRANDCHILD. YOU SPEND YOUR TIME LOOKING FOR THAT CHILD…YOU SPEND YOUR TIME IN A CORNER, HUDDLED UP IN A BALL, CRYING, VOMITING, UNABLE TO EVEN SPEAK AT TIMES FROM THE GRIEF. You do NOT buy boats, you do not go on television shows to get money because you’ve found a way to get out of working and catch up on the bills that YOUR DAUGHTER RAN UP BY STEALING…PERIOD…THE END!!!
An INNOCENT mother reports her missing child IMMEDIATELY!!! THEY DON’T LIE TO THE POLICE WHEN THEY ARE FINALLY CAUGHT, IF IN FACT THEIR GOAL IS TO FIND THE CHILD….PERIOD…THE END!!!
Even if there were a script that was to be followed, it wouldn’t have been a 31 day script, because the invisible nanny had no way of knowing it would be exactly 31 days til’ Cindy demanded to see the child…..THERE IS NO FREAKIN’ NANNY, BECAUSE THERE WAS NO FREAKIN’ JOB, AND THERE WAS NO FREAKIN’ MONEY TO PAY THE NANNY!!! …PERIOD…THE END!!!!
I’m sure there are many dysfunctional families in the world, we just don’t watch their lives unfold on television. However, this is the absolute definition of dysfunction at it’s worst. I’ve never seen or heard anything as sick as all this in my life. Period…The End!!!
The only thing I can say about Caylee is….Thank God that there are people like Linda Burdick, and all the “no life bloggers” (per Cindy’s words) to be a voice for that poor little baby Caylee…because there is NOT a SOUL in that immediate family that loved her enough to stand up for her, be a voice for her. Well, didn’t love her in the true sense of the word, the way NORMAL people love their children. You don’t use children, that’s what happened in that household. As I said, Thank God for the people that are attempting to be the voice of Caylee, as it was silenced, at the hands of her mother the moment that DUCT TAPE WAS PUT ACROSS HER SWEET LITTLE FACE….A REAL MOTHER, A REAL GRANDMOTHER, A REAL GRANDFATHER, AND A REAL MAN (WHICH BAEZ ISN’T) WOULD STAND BACK, LOOK AT THE FACE OF THAT CHILD AND SAY…..ENOUGH IS ENOUGH…I DON’T WANT TO GO TO HELLL FOR COVERING FOR CASEY WHO DOESN’T CARE ABOUT ANYONE BUT CASEY…EVEN IF IT WERE AN ACCIDENT, EVEN IF SHE HAD BEEN SCARED TO TELL, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN GRIEF ON HER PART, TEARS, RECLUSIVENESS…NOT NON STOP LIFE….THE ONE SHE CONTINUED WITHOUT A THOUGHT THE MOMENT CAYLEE WAS OUT OF HER LIFE….HER NEW, BEAUTIFUL LIFE….PERIOD…THE END!!!!!…..BUNCH OF SICKOS!!!
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/10/casey-anthony-jose-baez-tells-today-that-the-truth-will-come-out-at-trial-if-we-get-to-that-point.html
If there were Casey fingerprints on that tape, would Baez have already been notified that it was? If so, why isn’t he strongly suggesting to his client to take a plea deal or else she has a good chance of receiving the dp?
does anyone know when judge strickland will decide on the absurd motions from Baez?
I am somewhat shocked that more people who have been through a tragedy of losing a child by kidnapping, abduction, or murder are not “banding” together to put the Anthony’s to task on their behaviors and lies.
In one of my post I made an attempt at a humourous “story” of how the defense will throw Cindy under the bus to form reasonable doubt on Casey. I did though talk about the fact that Cindy knew that the smell in the car was of decomposition, yet she blandly went back to work, and encouraged George to go to work also. She then let her co-workers “talk” her into going back home to deal with the car and find Casey. I believe that Cindy did all that for the sole purpose of being able to clean out the trunk and destroy as much “evidence” as possible. I think she knew from the moment she smelled the car that Caylee was gone, that Casey was implicite in her being missing/dead, and she was going to do anything necessary to protect her family “honor” from having a “baby killer” in the house. Everything from that moment on was subterfuge. She would rather Casey go unpunished than her family name be tarnished. And I’m sure she feels there is a bigger gravy train in keeping Casey out of jail, than helping find justice for Caylee. It’s so sad that this little girls’ death is getting lost in all the hyperbole of the dysfunctional family and their antics.
I think it would be awesome if a large group of people who have truelly suffered a loss of a child would just stand outside the Anthony home in silent protest with the hope that they understand that we (those who have sought justice and closure) aren’t buying what they are selling, and perhaps have an impact on their souls.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/#33136180
The clip from the Today Show.
Is it true that swaying public opinion to create reasonable doubt is illegal (“Conspiracy to fabricate reasonable doubt”)? If that’s true, how and why does teamcaylee.yuku.com continue to exist? If Cindy is creating the illusion that are ‘many’ who believe in Casey’s innocence (unregistered trolling as Blink once mentioned), can she not be charged for this? I hope and pray this woman reaps what she sows.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread432443/pg6
So Matt Lauer asks JB and LKB if they know what the truth is. JB answers “The truth will come out at trial, if we get to that point.”
Are they delusional … or are we?????
Depends on the Day
B
Dee– it was Blink who gets credits for the lyrics…
Yep– couldn’t have a music career here without her! (how about it be publshed by Gumshoe & Gumchew, or GCA Records?)
I just saw Baez and Baden on the Today show – spin twins
I loved the line about how we dont know how Caylee died no determination of by what means – no proof of violence. You mean
other than a dead body whose skull was covered with duct tape?
In these two squirrels world I guess thats an every day occurrance
for three year olds.
Spin Twins- LOL
B
I sincerely hope anyone who has any influence, friends, or acquaintances help spread the WORD and ask them to read Mr. Grund’s comment #196.
PAMELA #160, thank you for sharing your insight. Have you ever considered sending a letter to the Anthony’s. Their address is easy to find by googling them.
Blink #140, I sure hope not. Thanks. This blog site is tremendous.
kyrasmommy, you are right, IIRC about the duct tape, but Amy’s sworn statement to LE says she never had duct tape or other tape borrowed by Casey, but maybe she recalled later and told LE (don’t quote me). I think we need to take Casey’s information she set out on her pages, as suspect– they MUST be corroborated because we know she has lied constantly about things related to her baby’s disappearance, she lied to her father about the gas cans.
Maybe Casey knew she had to say something to put the eye on others, tape could be another of her little ‘clues’.
Now we know why Brad did his thing yesterday– a clip of his statements on Today Show, Dr. Levy clips gave another version– Linda K-B says ‘public… they were misled’.
Baez: Not enough to substantiate the case– so why didn’t he file for dismissal last year when he could??
Linda K-B– “…NOTHING connects her …”
and “People confess to crimes all the time…”
Baez stumbled a LOT.
Linda K-B ‘we will get a fair trial IF judge follows the law’.
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Ok, now we know why Cindy was posting on WKMG to help ‘us’ understand the ‘facts’ for the motions to dismiss– I posted that link for her ‘justsayin’ nickname on this thread or on the other thread of the doc dumps– if you haven’t seen how she’s part of this media tour of Brad, and Baez and K-B, it’s all there.
Hey! Linda K-B has been using a hair straightener!!! New look this morning– she’s been reading reviews of her presentation of self in the Casey media!
Is the defense pushing to see if the state will release ALL their cards– ie: ‘smoking gun… bring it!!!!!’, ‘no evidence to link Casey to crime scene’…
The state can’t get out to the Today Show and they know it, so the only way for them to respond is through releasing more discovery.
Blink, would the defense know unofficially, about any Casey fingerprint on the duct tape? I’d guess this is why the big push to discredit the duct tape evidence and forensic evidence in general– so it leads to discrediting this physical evidence if and when they get the ‘smoking gun’.
(isnt’ it funny how Dr. Levy said completely different things on WESH from what he said on the ‘Today Show’??? It’s called creative ‘editing’ and ‘spin’ and had nothing to do with what the expert actually said.
LKB stated today there are no prints on the tape, Brad said it yesterday and specifically said that information has not come from the defense. You can bet your bippy that if the defense had discovery indicating there are no prints on that duct tape, it would be plastered on every news outlet willing to pay for it, I mean pay a image fee, which is entirely different (snark)
B
Re: Fingerprints on Duct Tape
I guess what I don’t understand is:
If the state knows Casey’s fingerprints are on the duct tape – why WOULDN’T they release that information now? I would think that would cause Casey to then want to plead out. And, the state could, then, either accept or deny that plea?
The way I see is…if the state has such incriminating evidence, why wouldn’t they expose it to put an end to this MASS spending of tax payers dollars?
Someone please help me understand this.
Thanks.
So, did the laudry bag come from the RG home since per Blink, it does not match the A’s laundry bags from their home? Or maybe the home of Chris’s parents?
Have we seen a list of items purchased by Casey with all of the stolen $$. Either $$ from Amy or KC’s mother’s credit cards?
Only Target and I think a Publix, we have not seen the JC Penney card stuff.
B
Bringing this forward from the other doc dump story to this one about Brad’s presser: (sorry, meant to post it under this thread in the first place– my bad). It was a 1-2-3 media hit… timed also for the motion to dismiss.
The trilogy of the Anthony defense this week:
1. Brad Conway’s presser with fumbling and page flipping.
2. Anthony family’s own ‘media releases’ on WKMG story comments under ‘justsayin’ nickname.
Read them here or click on the nick on comments pages —–>>> http://disqus.com/justsayin111/
3. Linda Kenny-Baden’s ‘Today Show’ today, with fumbling Baez statements about evidence.
Good find Kleat, I am working on this as we speak.
B
Mr. Grund, I don’t know what to say to reassure you that very few people believe you or your son had anything to do with little Caylee’s demise. I don’t have time to read the junk documentation that’s belittling your existence and even if I did, I would not waste it reading that junk. I don’t know how you’ve kept your Glock from rocking; maybe your sense of humor (D’oh”) has saved you. Thank you for sticking up for yourself. I hope Jesse is doing as well as you.
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westsidehudson
Yep, caught that last night.
Strange, he lives in the state of CT … another 6 degree.
oh oh Blink….
I gotta tell ya, don’t miss the orlandosentinel site’s TV Guy… BECAUSE they have not only the video of the Today show of Today, BUT, they have several videos all streamed one after another.
This ain’t no TRILOGY– I haven’t counted what it is yet, but will add BAEZ AND TODD MAC… I’m watching the second portion of that now…
Katie Kuric has Baez, Baez and Todd, … discuss motion to dismiss, and Todd repeats his ‘she is innocent and will be proven innocent at trial’… evidence does not meet the prima facia case.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/10/casey-anthony-jose-baez-tells-today-that-the-truth-will-come-out-at-trial-if-we-get-to-that-point.html
Richard Grund is one person to whom Casey had talked to in confidence ‘around the kitchen table’ while she lived there with Caylee, and is one person to whom she could have reached out, who would have respected her wishes and helped her in her search, and who would have helped her go to her parents with her ‘problem’ (CAYLEE’S PROBLEM) and get the FBI involved without hesitation.
Richard Grund has a spine, and if Casey’s own father was not who she could talk to about ‘kidnappers’ or ‘an accident’, or other scenario (drug dealers, money launderers, gun runners), then she could go to Richard Grund and his wife as support.
Instead, she went to use the shower– maybe collect a sample of hair, maybe a laundry item, maybe a tissue. And said nothing about Caylee missing.
(all George did was ask Casey (with pre-emptive apology before he asked) if she did anything, like steal something etc from someone, who would have taken Caylee. He did this for the jailhouse cameras and the public via media– that was one of his rare on-air contributions to the creationism of Casey’s alibi)
I finally read through all those bull crap emails, the pages of stuff from the FBI, and watched Brad C make a fool of himself. Isn’ this the same Brad who told us back in December (thanks Littleboots for reminding me) that there was no duct tape across that babies mouth and nostrils…
From the emails I figured out Dominic C sit on his butt relying on Net Detective to find out information about bloggers and people outside the Anthony residence protesting. From all this reading, I hope Maura will put it in context… but didn’t the email to Jose from Dominic C….you know the one saying he was severing his service from the defense on Oct 1,2008…hmmm, didn’t that contradict what he stated was it last week or the week before.
And doesn’t Cindy say in an email to John Allen and Nick Savage dated December 8,2008 state that Dominic C works just for Cindy and George…
And loved John’s reponse email to Cindy, stating exactly how many law enforcement personell had been involved in searching for the truth…and it was not LE’s job to…..well, can’t you just see Cindy fuming over that one. Loved it!
Bottom line is I came away from reading saying where’s the beef? The state of Florida put a death penalty charge against Casey Anthony for the death of little Caylee Anthony way before the body and the subsequent forensic evidence was discovered…These little snid bits released from the FBI are in no way all of the evidence they will put before the juror’s…I’d bet my bottom dollar.
Go back and look at the release of so many, many photo’s of evidence collected from the crime scene…we have only seen a drop in the bucket from the photo’s taken. There’s some evidence not being released that was captured on photo’s. If anyone is wavering in wondering does the state have a case against Casey…my goodness go back to the beginning of say, BlinkonCrime and read the evidence we already have. This much ado about nothing is probably giving the FBI and the prosecutors a good shake of the head. They know what they
have to present to jurors…..we don’t yet.
FBI contamination…I’m only a nurse, and I can tell you no matter how carefully doctors try to get a sample of say a wound infection…lab analysts results are reviewed by a MD and a determination is made if there is a cross contamination factor in anything questionable….say a drop of skin flake or a particle in the air. Happens with a blood sample taken too. The attending MD then makes a determination to collect another sample or not..according to what exactly he is looking for to be excluded in the sample. I, as a RN, will often order a stat repeat of a blood draw if I question the results, before I call the doctor. I can then tell the doctor the results and tell them I have reordered a stat redraw. (And no you are not charged for the redraw!)
So the tape that was across that babies mouth and nostrils was not exactly a match of fibers with the gas can. Who would expect the tape not to undergo changes while submerged in stinking bacteria filled swamp water for all those months. Maybe the prosecution determined the heart shaped residue on the tape was not going to link anyone to the tape…but, by chosing to destroy it while looking for other evidence (fingerprints, a letter with the Henkle brand,ect) was more important. Remember the FBI is not releasing all the evidence right now.
The Anthony’s and crew are looking for any straw to grasp. And remember if Cindy’s 48 Hour interview get’s good ratings she expects it will help her get more blood money from other media resources. So she’s playing the media for her own monetary benefit right now. It’s so become not about Caylee for so many anymore. I hope fellow Blinker’s do not let this muddy the water for them. Remember Silver warned us it would be coming?
Beautiful fall weather upcoming and hope everyone is out enjoying some of it. We have a long, cold winter to get through before summertime comes and we see the prosecution present it’s case to a group of juror’s who will decide the fate of Casey Anthony. I expect a lot of bull crap to come, just hang in there, and do not forget that the uphill battle the defense is waging will get dirty.
I just watched a clip from the “Early Show” with Baez and Todd Mac.
Again Mr. Mac states that Casey is “innocent”. I thought that he had to prove that. Is the doc. dump his reference?
Fred McNeil, You are funny!
Teri, Casey has refused time and time again to plead, and before that, Casey and Cindy accused the investigators, of never giving Casey the chance to talk, never allowing her the chance to take the investigators (OSCO, FBI, even talk privately with her dad) to tell what she knows, to help them find Caylee, it’s a ‘no win’ situation with this defense, who repeatedly say to the media, to the court with argumentation which was not needed or appropriate at that time, that ‘she is innocent’.
The state is not going to respond, as it should not, to public JABS or taunts or media hype, to release incriminating evidence that it has when they will certainly not get a ‘plea’ nor candor from this woman in custody accused of the crimes.
The state could only lose as it would only, at this point, be played in the media and that would be like submitting to ‘trial by media’.
The state has a responsiblity to Caylee and to justice and to the truth. Getting there by the media circus that the Anthony’s and their lawyers have created, will not meet that end.
The state is not playing the media game. It must do it’s professional duty and they have no duty to bring that evidence (btw– IF Casey handled that duct tape and taped up the baby’s mouth and nose, then CASEY KNOWS IT– this would NOT be news to her or her defense). If her lawyers must learn what she knows from the state– that’s not the way it works.
JMHO and common sense try on this.
# 206 by WSH: Why is there never any anger at the person or persons who actually caused all this bad stuff to happen to the family? Why no desperation to find them?
Don’t forget WSH, Casey already said she’s forgiven Zenaida, so I guess that means the A’s have forgiven her as well. That’s why they’re not going after her or angry with her … ‘cuz Casey said she’s forgiven.
#224 by Blink: I can’t believe there was no snark in your comment! We haven’t seen the JC Penney card because Cindy already checked it and found that there’s nothing of interest on it, so she doesn’t have to share it with LE. She must think we’re all a bunch of morons to think that she should have given the receipts to them anyway. How stupid of us and LE!! (ok i’m done being snarky now — just had to get it out)
Wendy! Fabulous post! Thank you!
Amen wendy!
This case reminds me of the Danielle VanDamme case in CA a few years ago – Westerheide killed her and was convicted, but during the trial his attorney was trying to lay blame at her parents doorstep or
anyone else they could find. Prior to the trial Westerheide was about to take a plea and tell where the body was but Danielle was found before he told, thus the DP trial.
It just makes me sick!!!
#217 BOZ
I sent them an email in July when the story broke, with a brief version of my story and an offer of help in the way of resources etc. that I found invaluable in my search, seperate from law enforcement, the only response I received was a auto resond email asking for donations. I don’t think my email was even read by the Anthony’s, they just hoped anyone who contacted them would donate.
I haven’t written again, even though I did volunteer search because of the brief contact that I had with the Anthony’s and from my knowledge of the case and belief that Casey had something to do with her daughter’s death. If was very apparant to most of the volunteer’s and Tim Miller, that the Anthony’s were not at all interested in searching for Caylee, Zenaida or anyone else. They were interested in selling their crap and asking for free money, while lambasting anyone doing anything other than drinking their “Koolaid” so to speak.
I do wonder though, if a peaceful, silent vigil in front of their house by people who’ve lost a child to crime, would at the very least cause them to think about their behaviours and blatant deceit.
Wonder not, they are unphased.
B
Blink, note about ‘why’ the tape on the gas can in the photo: http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/30/sources_duct_tape_evidence_in_casey_case_doesn39t_add_up.html
Yes, obviously a way to label or mark the can, although if for Casey’s benefit to know which was which, there should be writing on that label– they didn’t trust her judgement about the shed, so they should mark it ‘mix’ or 50/50 or whatever gasoline/oil mix.
From this photo, there appears to be a cap or something covered by that tape, and it makes sense that this can would likely have a small cap to release a vaccuum build up in the can as it is being poured– let’s air in to replace the liquid and allows for a smooth flow.
That appears to be the reason also, that a heat resistant tape would be useful– not because of the contents, but because it would stand up to the general conditions outside in that garden shed in the florida heat. But maybe that’s not so necessary if the shed is ventilated and maybe carrying the gas cans around in the trunk, that small secondary cap might have been hard to get back on, maybe that’s the reason for the tape. Maybe a safety measure by someone, knowing that those cans got used regularly by Casey to carry gas in her trunk, so to avoid spillage, risk of fire, and fumes. (as if that would make it safe)
Conway is doing what his clients want him to do. Unfortunately, he took the low road and is trying to misinform the jury pool. Just more Scamthony blabber, IMHO!
I remember seeing a pic of the duct tape with the outline of the heart and then another pic with the heart that was recovered at the dump site. LE was way to careful to not document every thing they found during the initial search. They have pics. That is all that is needed. FBI would have just documented the chain of custody and condition in their paperwork. No need for additional pics unless the evidence was different than described in the chain of custody and initial description.
The Jerry Springer Road show that the DUH-fense is putting on just goes to show the desparation they are feeling at the overwhelming evidence AGAINST their client. Otherwise, they would produce the discovery they claim they have exonerating their client. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.
I wish Silver would pop by, but I guess she got fed up with this case and needed a breather. I think I’m heading to that path.
At any rate, does anyone know if the defense is actually harming their chances of a change of venue by appearing on national TV? I can’t catch a lot of the local stations coverage. I can read it, if it is linked or searched. I am not in FL. But by the defense going on national vs local TV, aren’t they, themselves, making Miami, Jacksonville, and any other potential trial locals more aware of this case ? How can you argue to move a case because of excessive coverage, but then be the force behind the coverage on a larger scale than simply Orlando?
locales….
blink I posted a long post did you ever get it this morning?
Richard:
I don’t think anyone with half a brain believes you or Jesse were involved. The Anthony’s are doing what they have done all their lives – sacrifice anyone and everyone to get Casey out of trouble. Unfortunately, little Caylee became fodder in their attempt to cover for their daughter. I know it is hard to be falsely accused. False accusations by liers is probably the single event that can cause my blood to boil regardless of whether I am actually involved. I simply can not tolerate liers – they are the spawn of the devil. The Anthonys better wake up and realize that it is their eternal life they are sacrificing for their daughter’s physical life. They are doing her no favors by not making her accept and repent for her actions. One would think a newly baptised Christian would understand one simple commandment “Thou shalt not lie”. I don’t have a Bible in front of me, but the Bible also says that liers, etc. will have no place in God’s Kingdom. And God can not be fooled or misled. Strong words!
Keep the faith. I will keep you and your family in my prayers.
Kleat where everit came from it was funny and brought me out of a total funk…thanks again
Kleat, I did see this, but still think it is troubling:
“DNA found from a technician NOT that unusual, doens’t mean the evidence is no good– Dr. Levy”
I guess I expect better from the FBI, naive little lamb that I am, lol. But if you were really cynical, wouldn’t you wonder if they’re so sloppy, how you can trust anything they are finding over in Quantico
Blink Hope all right to copy this here. If not then OK
Comment posted by Hot Dogs on websleuths
Brad “backed off” his statement because Pipitone confused him. He thought he and Pipitone both understood the same thing until Tony insisted that no hair other than Caylee’s was found on the duct tape (according to the FBI). The confusion is related to the “unknown origin hair” being found on the collection paper. The collection paper was placed beneath the skull, skull duct tapes, and hair mass for the purpose of catching anything that might fall off during the various handlings inside the labs. Brad knows that this hair must have come from the skull, the tape, or the hair mass – and he should presume that Tony knows this as well. It’s in the FBI doc dump. But Tony asks him if it is his understanding that a stray (unknown) hair was found on the duct tape. Brad says yes that is my understanding. Then Tony says that the FBI found no hair other than Caylee’s on the duct tape. That’s right – as we know it was found on the paper underneath this stuff. Brad’s error was in assuming that Tony was asking a question for which the answer was already understood (from the docs). Brad becomes confused and then thinks that Tony might have seen something in the doc that he didn’t. Something in there saying that only Caylee’s hair was found with the body and there really is no “unknown origin hair” at all.
Anyway, it was an awkward moment and I felt sorry for Brad. Maybe he genuinely thought it was attached to the duct tape. I clarified in Thread #1 that the hair was on the paper meant to catch stuff that might fall off. We might be able to find out which item this hair was found beneath. It could have originally been stuck to the tape and then fell off. It could have come from the hair mass. It could be a contaminant. We only know that it is associated with the skull/tape/hair mass. Unfortunately the reporters don’t correct or help the situation by explaining that the unknown hair was collected beneath these items and was not specifically stuck to the duct tape upon its discovery by a technician. Maybe they didn’t know that either – but they could see that the FBI was talking about a single hair that did not belong to Caylee or Casey.
I wonder if a large does of truth serum would work on Casey & family? I cant recall the medical term, but after injected, its been told the person is not able to lie. Is that true? does it count on sociopaths ? probably not, they dont even think they are lying. Do they even use that anymore?