Morgan Harrington Case: Separating Fact From Fiction From Facebook Part II
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Charlottesville, VA– Just passing the month mark, the disappearance of Morgan Harrington from the John Paul Jones Area located on the UVA campus, leaves us with more questions than answers. Part II
The Faces of Her Facebook
Help Find Morgan Harrington was developed by a few concerned individuals interested in spreading the word about Morgan’s disappearance and boasts over 30,000 members. Not all posts are welcome.
In particular, a member by the name of Nelson Kane was recently banned for posting very detailed hypothesis scenarios that sparked a firestorm of interest in the self-appointed athlete scout. His posts were deleted at the request of Law Enforcement who admit tasking two officers with monitoring the web for such activity in Morgan’s case.
Additionally, Mr. Kane reached out to several individuals on facebook as well as the Harrington family’s findmorgan.com site in attempts to speak to the family directly and request an interview. The Harrington’s were made aware of the concern for such requests by sources close to the investigation.
He has recently changed his facebook drastically. 
Mr. Kane, a member of the family owning the longtime furniture store of the same name in Charlottesville is also a UVA alumni and season ticket holder. In addition to UVA, Kane also claims to have attended Virginia Tech on many of his many social networking profiles. He also fancies himself as somewhat of a Rock band critic.
On his site, nkscouting.com which he has maintained 
since 2001, Kane chronicles his trips to scout mostly High School basketball and football athletes. In an effort to make his site more interesting (his words) he details the travel experience, routes, times and in some cases photos of his visits to High Schools mostly within a few hours driving distance.
Very early on in Morgan’s case, blinkoncrime.com explored the idea that perhaps the double murder of VT freshmen David Metzler and Heidi Childs on August 27th should be investigated as a possible link to Morgan’s case simply because they attend the school and Morgan and Heidi bare a remarkable resemblance to one another.
As far as very odd coincidences go, the location of Nelson Kane’s scouting foray the evening of the August 28th could not be more relevant.
Kane scouted the game at Jefferson Forest High School. The very 
School Heidi Childs graduated from a year earlier. Unlike most of Kane’s other journal entries of his athlete accolades, there is no mention of his travel experience to or from Forest High School so it is unclear where he left from, when he got there, or when he returned home.
This is in no way an accusation that Mr. Kane had any involvement whatsoever in such a heinous crime, of course, but given his proclivities for leaving at all hours of the day and night his keen attention to travel detail and familiarity with the area: Perhaps he saw someone or something amiss in his trip that could help investigators.
On Saturday October 17th, Kane scouts a game, listens to the UVA football game on his way home and is home in plenty of time to make the concert.
Blink how do you know he was at the concert you ask? I do not. I do know he knows alot about security at the JPJ Arena, how to navigate the different lots near Uhall, and of course that there are blue portable lavatories next to Lanigan Field. His posts from the Charlottesville Daily Progress below:
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Just a thought – - the “IF” this was Morgan, or the “someone fitting the description of Morgan” …
There has been lots of discussion on “is it Morgan or is it Dee S.” in regards to various witness sightings at various times.
Not only have we not seen as pictures of Morgan that night, we have not seen pictures of any of the friends either.
I recall, years ago, us girlfriends would talk about what we were all going to wear to a special event and sometimes go shopping together and pick out outfits together, or at least compare notes over the phone or at school or work in deciding what to wear. For us, that was a definite part of the “pre-planning” excitement to an event. Sometimes, depending on the event, we wore similar outfits.
IMO, it’s not beyond the realm of possibility for these girlfriends to also discuss what they were going to wear and maybe select similar outfits to wear.
Not suggesting anything untowards, at all. Just trying to make sense of all these “sightings” that evening. With tights, without tights, knee high boots, short boots. Sometimes it sounds like it could be Morgan, sometimes it sounds like Dee S. (she did “say” it was her in the Arena video, although I don’t recall official confirmation from LE – - did Dee S. say it online?) yet other times it doesn’t quite sound like either Morgan or Dee S.
You are so on my page. Those sightings are dopplegangers, save for the BB players.
B
Blink,
I may have missed this, but has there been any indication regarding the male friend being inside JPJ or at the concert?
p.s. Good Thanksgiving to you.
Not that I can confirm.
A good and blessed thanksgiving to you and yours, friend.
B
“Here’s how I see that comment if true, from the friends:
Morgan: Get the eff out here and give me the keys to my car, hand them to security, whatever, what do you expect, I should hitch a ride home?”
My thoughts exactly Blink.
I can’t think of one example where a person who has their car within eyesight chooses to hitch hike *in the dark* and *in the cold* and *in the rain*, when she has at least 2 friends seating warmly inside, not more than yards away with the keys to before mentioned car….Give me a break.
Could it be that the only reason the BB players left Morgan at the lot in 45 degree weather was that she had called or texted someone with the BB players cell phone and the person(s) she contacted said they were coming for her. She was walking along the bridge (which is adjacent to the RV lot), saw them, and hopped in?
I keep thinking Morgan may have been participating, maybe unwittingly, in some kind of drug buy. Maybe she only handled the money (wrapped up and sealed?), while the drugs were to be exchanged elsewhere? The deal went bad and person who picked her up robbed her and may have then realized that carrying around a wad of cash is no crime and Morgan would have every right to call the cops and report him? From her earlier message her assailiant knew that she had been in the RV lot so that’s where he later dropped the purse?
I don’t know what the drug use situation is at VT, JMU, or UVa and how they are inter-related. I would hope very little use on any of the three campuses and no inter-relation. One plausible explanation of the two VT student killings in the national forest, however, is that they stumbled upon some drug trafficking operation they should not have seen. If these are all drug-related, it is going to get very ugly, very quickly.
Thanks for the insight, localcvillegirl. Moonchime, I’m glad you laughed! That page is definitely funny, if nothing else.
J2K, love your posts.
Kev, and everyone posting here I wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving.
Thank you Blink for providing such a quality site full of such great minds.
It seems that LE has had more than one POI in sight. There are 3, well 4, suspects. And there is the “unknown,” as well.
They seem to have a #1 suspect and are having trouble getting motive, method, means, etc. together. I believe they have pertinent forensic evidence available. As we know, sometimes there is one of those ambiguous situations with evidence. Even if they aren’t physically working day and night, the collective brain certainly is punched in! (I find that I work all day on these crime puzzles, and occasionally am aware of my progress.)
Not sure if this is the place to chime in on the purse-location debate…I believe the crime originated where the purse was found. It was not returned to that place by the perpetrator.
With several of the suspects, I’m down with the motive, et al. With what I believe to be their #1, I’m really in the dark.
Uh that last line was out of place, sry.
nope, not, I think it fits alot of our sentiment right now.
B
wpgmouse ( re: #445 — November 25, 2009 @ 9:02 pm)
“Or, maybe she ended up walking with that someone, but when she was spotted as per witness, the other person was on the other side of the two lanes at that moment and was not noticed. The 2 may have had a disagreement before the bridge, and she walked off, with him following. (Wasn’t there a female witness to an exchange involving a ‘hands on arm’ situation?) Also, a stranger may have been following her onto the bridge, and she was not aware.”
Um… wpg? – why is it so critical to push another person into the equation? As it is, witness-input barely even establishes MH, herself, walking alone Copeley Road; a stealthy stalker (well, as stealth as one can be on a Saturday night in the epicenter of the region’s suburbs) would likely have attracted at least a modicum of notice from the public were he/she deliberately hunting and attempting to disable MH within the vicinity of JPJ, imo.
Momof3 — (re: November 25, 2009 @ 9:27 pm)
“She told friends – using a cellphone – that she might ‘try to hitchhike home.’ Her purse and cellphone were found the next day near where she was last seen. Might try? Okay. How’s about 1 of the friends saying – Hey instead of that ‘I might try’ to bring you your keys – ‘meet be by the front door’ …If this is the only information that lead LE to believe Morgan was hitching that night, it is not enough. IMO”
But what if the above description is the only cell-phone-related information LE *has* regarding MH’s contact with internal-JPJ friends upon her leaving the venue?
It’s usually less effort to fit a square peg in a square hole rather than trying to shove assumptive shapes in ill-fitting openings… Just sayin’.
Blink, thank you for covering the Morgan H. story so well. Yours is the only site I’ll look at with regards to this case & I’ve followed it since the beginning as a local resident and concerned parent. I appreciate your cutting to the chase on where things stand with the information at hand. Have a Happy Thanksgiving, and may God bless the Harrington Family.
TY. My thoughts and prayers are with the families that may be finding it taxing to give thanks today. I wish them peace, love and strength.
B
J2K 425 & 443
I have posted a theory of what possibly may have happened to Morgan
the evening of the concert.
You have made it very clear to it is highly unlikely that she would have been taken by an unknown assailant.
However, I am having a very difficult time placing Morgam with a person she knew. All sightings have her as a lone person.
If she was going to meet someone, why would a friend or even an aquanence want Morgan walking or hitchiking to ??? on a cold night by herself. It is not as if the concert was over and thousands of people were flooding the parking lots.
Also, I do believe that more than 2 or 3 young girls are abducted by unknown assailants annually. Unfortunalely, I seem to be hearing of abductions more and more all the time.
I have read your posts discrediting other theories posted here.
I guess I am curious as to what you think happened.
Opps, sorry about the misspellings it is still dark here and I have yet to turn on the lights.
Happy Thanksgiving All!
One more thing:
Keeping in mind it was a Metallica concert.
That in itself could attrack some very strange individuals lurking about.
I too wish deeply for some serenity for Morgan’s family today, for the strength , comfort and understanding I feel they so need Today and beyond .
I am frustrated , looking back on this situation I may have interjected some harsh opinions out of my frustration , I tend to question EVERYTHING .
If I could speak to the Harrington’s, One thing I do not question is, the unconditional love they hold for Morgan that is so visible, wisdom to do everything in their power to find Morgan making the best decisions.
If I were lost , I would want the Harrington’s looking for me .
GODSPEED
Dakota
“Um… wpg? – why is it so critical to push another person into the equation? As it is, witness-input barely even establishes MH, herself, walking alone Copeley Road; a stealthy stalker (well, as stealth as one can be on a Saturday night in the epicenter of the region’s suburbs) would likely have attracted at least a modicum of notice from the public were he/she deliberately hunting and attempting to disable MH within the vicinity of JPJ, imo.”
Well, J2K, unless you yourself believe the 3 basketball players (or one of those 3 are responsible for the disappearance of Morgan Harrington, then we are still dealing with an “unknown’ individual(s).
Other wise, if you could please expand with further support to your question..
Also, I did not say a “stealthy stalker” – - that was your description or interpretation. I simply meant an unnoticed individual following behind, separate from the female. Void of any official confirmation as to the identity of the individual matching Morgan’s appearance being seen on the Bridge or her behavior on the bridge, I clearly put forth “perhaps” and “maybe” scenarios only, “IF” this was indeed the NOW MISSING Morgan Harrington.
At some point, a witness (or witnesses) point to this female allegedly crossing from walking on the left side of the bridge over to the right side where the sidewalk is. Perhaps (again, perhaps) this movement is what caused the female to be noticed. Since we haven’t heard officially “no one else was on that bridge”, it leaves open the possibility that someone else was also on that bridge. There “may” have been a witness account to the same, but it has not been released, “perhaps” for obvious reasons. Where was the person in proximity to this female” who would have relayed the sighting – - in a car, walking, where.
Again, J2K, if you would expand in support of your question, I would appreciate it.
Regarding my comment about UVA – since their athletic rep isn’t so golden anymore, all the more reason not to taint it further. Since they have a history of cover-ups of rapes in fraternities, I don’t put anything past a bureaucracy to protect it’s overall image.Hmm, how high did they raise their tuition this year?
IMHO, an experienced stalker of young women would have better success at a Jonas Brothers’ concert than at Metallica -and would know it.Metallica has more male fans than female. People like to stereotype heavy metal fans. I’m 48 and I would know how to dress in the “uniform” without consulting teenagers, so I don’t think Morgan would really consult all her friends first. I’m surprised she even asked her mother’s opinion – which indicates she’s more innocent than her appearance conveys. Just because the girl likes to stand out doesn’t make her mentally ill. She may have switched schools to be closer to home or perhaps didn’t like the school culture. I know partying happens at every college, but JMU and UVA have more of a party school image and are more preppy than most. If Morgan felt her peers were mostly snooty and phony, she very well would want to leave.
I think Morgan went to the bathroom so she wouldn’t have to go during Metallica’s set. I don’t think she went anywhere to score drugs for her group. They may have gotten all their beer (there was a limit of 4)and drank it before the show, which would them more intoxicated than if they spaced out their intake. It also would explain why she needed the ladies’ room so soon. No one takes anyone backstage to meet the band when they’re about to go onstage, so I rule that suggestion out as well. The only thing I can think of is Morgan trying to get on the general admission area to get closer to the stage. If the security people want to be hardasses, they could kick her out for that. If she resisted, it could explain the alleged injury and perhaps this is how her cell phone was broken. If it was thrown down, wouldn’t the battery fall out? The thing is, the BB players didn’t report her as having facial injuries, did they?
Oops. Sorry. I forgot to address J2K (#459 comments) at the beginning of my post.
@ George: I live in Virginia. JMU is widely known for its parties. Check out http://www.collegeconfidential.com if you want comments from students. Basically, if you go to JMU and you DONT party, you simply wont fit in. There is also a “drunk bus” that runs on the campus to transport, well, drunks. There is another bus that provides transportation from JMU to VT and back every weekend, I believe. Not picking on JMU, I’m sure this goes on at VT and UVA too–JMU just has more of a reputation for it. If you say JMU, the response is usually “oh, party school”. . . .So, I dont think Morgan & Company were drinking soda and eating cheetos before going to UVA. . . .there have been a lot of “good kids” from my podunk town that leave and go to JMU and, well, the “good kid” label is quickly dropped
from cmaissol
(snipped)
“Just because the girl likes to stand out doesn’t make her mentally ill.”
cmaissol, hello.
I may have missed something (easily), but I do not recall anyone here suggesting mental illness. May I humbly ask you to clarify a little. Thank you.
sweetpea
That last comment of yours is the most ignorant comment I’ve read. Do you know how HUGE Metallica are? There are lurkers and strange people everywhere, even going to Renee Fleming or Lady Gaga concerts!
Sweetpea is a valued poster on Blinkoncrime.com, but I agree the comment was ill-placed wrt a Metallica concert vs. any other.
We are an ipod family, on any given day you will find Pachebel, Paramore, and yes even Rascal Flatts in our ears. I am personally a music ecclectic. I can go from rocker to Lady Gaga to “old school” in one run depending on my mood. I am as casper milktoast as your going to find, and while I do think that certain acts can bring an ill-following (dont even test me on it, Im referring to the recent family murder by some horrorcore rap wanna be) I most certainly do not think Metallica falls into that category.
B
Happy Thanksgiving to you all. I’ve been following this case since Morgan first went missing on this site.
I too, as most of you posting here today, have the Harrington’s on my mind, and knowing they will have an empty plate at their “feast” today.
I wish for the Harringtons continued strength, that Dan and Gil seem to draw from each other, and also for them to find some solace, love, and support surrounded by family and friends today during this time of uncertainty, and untimely dissappearance of their beautiful precious daughter Morgan,
This comment from a November 25th report doesn’t provide a lot of confidence that LE is keeping MH’s parents up-to-date
“Dan and Gil Harrington, Morgan’s parents, said they didn’t know it had been confirmed the basketball players interacted with Morgan that night. While it is helpful, Dan said they need to know what happened later that night.
‘The information that we really need is what happened after she was over next to the track and got on the bridge,’ says Dan.”
http://www.whsv.com/home/headlines/72837152.html
Starbucks, there is no way of knowing when Dr. Harrington made those comments, if they are indeed a quote. What I can say is that the Harrington’s HAD NOT been made aware of the interaction of Morgan and the UVA basketball players and their subsequent interviews until it appeared on this site. They were aware of “interaction” but not the who, the content, or their individual accounts regarding Morgan’s movements. If one or more of them is the “witness” of Morgan on that bridge of the origin of the hitchiking story, I have a problem.
B
Blink, when I read your comments after #411, it made my hair raise. I feel the same way, and I’ll explain: After wrangling for the first three weeks, I decided to go back to my very initial thoughts. One of my first gut feelings is that Morgan either had a prearranged meeting outside the venue OR received a phone call that gave her GOOD reason to leave the building. Based on that I think one of two things, 1. That she had a prearranged hook-up with a guy that evening (which included the concert). Something also tells me she didn’t know this person’s character well either. or, 2. The phone call was a ruse, leading her to think there was an emergency requiring her to leave the building. Nevertheless, I think her cell phone held a key for the investigation. I agree in that they are waiting for iron-clad evidence to secure the prosecution. My intuition also tells me at this point that there could be a confession. I don’t feel Morgan is with us anymore either and what bothers me most is each day that passes and her body can’t be found for whatever reason.
This is the only crime story I’ve ever followed in written form and it has been an experience. In all, I have to dismiss the Morgan sightings because there is way too much room for mistaken identity. Gosh, there’s one person, Dee, who looks much like her and took at least all the same required paths as anyone that went for the event. That opened up all kinds of possible mistaken sightings in itself. Long ago I felt it was imperative that Dee give LE an account of everywhere she was on foot that night.
Along with everyone else, I hope this case is solved soon. For the Harringtons, not knowing just might be worse than anything now.
Long time reader, first time poster here. BTW-Blink, you are absolutely incredible!
After reading recent posts regarding MH’s friends not giving her the keys to her car, it’s occurred to me that, in some rspects, this action makes sense. I too, would be wary of giving car keys to a girl who had been drnking. It’s the 1st rule of being a DD – you hold the keys and never give them to a person who has been drinking.
This of course does not forgive or explain their later actions though…
I agree and have put that possibility out there early, but what I don’t understand is too my knowledge, the Unidentified Dude and the guy Morgan was texting were different people. Why would she not follow up with the friends?
B
Thanks for the comment on JMU. I have had high regard for all three schools, so I don’t know what to think. I had heard that alcohol abuse was a serious problem at UVa at one time, but nothing about the others.
As for Morgan, I just don’t believe anyone would try and force her into a car at that time for fear of being seen. She was practically at Ivy Road, a commercial strip between UVa properties, it was still very early in the evening, and I believe there were a lot of students in the area.
Morgan is said to have indicated she would get a ride back with friends in Charlottesville, but these “friends” have not come forward or been named, which is also curious.
I would bet Morgan’s “friend” turns out to be a former student who lives near the UVa campus and has no visible means of support.
I have to take a second to say, while I agree there is an obligation of safety on behalf of every University/School that comes with the territory of accepting tuition, grants, etc, we are dealing with adults, who make their own choices. I have been on the record that I want to know what type of CCTV system they have at JPJ and whether it is adequate ( I believe Observer weighed in already to say they do not, and had a previously scheduled meeting to address an upgrade potentially) but I dont think we will find that the campus or arena itself is negligent in some way; I think we are talking about individuals.
B
Your response to #450 ….yes indeed.
To the Harrington Family,
I feel confident that all of us here set aside time today to think of you all and of course pray for Morgan. You still have a lot to be thankful for even in the absence of your daughter.
You have each other, a strong family and a love for each other that is very evident to those of us who see you in the media. Keep that bond strong. It will help you during this difficult time.
I wish for peace for you all.
C
O C, I know this family is thanking you for all the work you and the other Blink contributing editors continue to do to bring answers to her case and peace for this family. I give thanks to all of you for your tireless comittment to victims and justice for them. Love to C, K, and R..
B
Confused?? I don’t understand the statement “The family has a tradition of going to Charlottesville for Thanksgiving every year.”and yet Morgan supposedly had no friends in Charlottesville? Very confusing?
http://www.whsv.com/news/headlines/75113482.html
Taking the Holiday to Ask Again for Help to Find Missing Daughter
Charlottesville, Va.
On this Thanksgiving, a Virginia family is mourning the absence of one of its members.
Posted: 6:03 PM Nov 26, 2009
On this Thanksgiving, a Virginia family is mourning the absence of one of its members.
Dan and Gil Harrington and their son Alex began the holiday Alex on the Copeley Street Bridge in Charlottesville where Morgan Harrington disappeared almost six weeks ago.
They were there to make a public plea for help to find her.
Gil says, “End this immense suffering that we are feeling. Please.”
The family has a tradition of going to Charlottesville for Thanksgiving every year.
However, this year, they placed flowers and knick knacks on the bridge where Morgan was last seen.
There have been no new leads since police released information that members of the University of Virginia men’s basketball team were among the last people to speak to Morgan before she vanished.
Kev #178 raises a good point. I agree Blink that looking like someone is not a crime but when the person one is looking like is a possible serial killer for some unsolved crimes then this possibility should be brought to the authorities attention and they can decide how to proceed or not. NK is a really creepy looking dude. If he was my neighbor I think I would move. Also the website posting regarding minute by minute locations is extremely odd and his posts on the Findmorgan site were unnerving. I pray for MH and family and am sad to hear that she is still missing. I want to do my part to help so I am will be sending out an email in the am and hope whoever reads it will pass it on to the right party or be able to take a deeper or more detailed look.
Email sent…Blink your site is the best, thanks again for your efforts and for the efforts of the posters bringing all the possible angles to light. Justice for Morgan, And Justice for All!
hey blink,
hope you had a wonderful thanksgiving.
just wondering if you got any new news on morgan case?
thank you so much for the great job you do!!!!
Hi Blink,
Been following Morgan’s disappearance since it happened and now am having problems accessing your site. Well, not all of it – specifically, the ‘State police say Morgan was hitchhiking’ area. When I click on it, the screen comes up with logo etc. but no article, comments etc. Get this no matter what I try. No other area affected. Arrgh!! Any idea why, or what I can do to prevent this from happening? Its driving me crazy! You’ve got a brilliant site here and I am hooked.
Thanks,
Alia
What is the url of the article your referrring to? Check your settings, then clear your cache and paste in your browser, I have not removed anything at all.
B
In looking for similarities between the VT students who were killed in the national forest campground and MH I saw an archived video and read an article both made the SAME DAY the victims were found. The Sheriff of Montgomery County, Thommy Whitt, is quoted as saying it is an “isolated event” in the video and quoted as saying it was a “random act of brutal violence” in the article. It seems to me it was an execution-style double homicide and that’s all you could say about it then. He had no way at all of knowing if it was a isolated event or if it was a random occurance.
George-
Would you please post the link? Thanks
B
The sheriff’s written quotes are at roanoke.com/news/nrv/wb2/216886
The video of the sherriff is a msnbc.msn.com/id/32592591
Thanks George. I am having one of those “back to basics” days, and I am floored by this:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0911/16/ijvm.01.html
An excerpt:
Here is a video police believe could be Morgan. This is a breakthrough. It was taken at the Metallica concert and posted on YouTube. Look carefully. Is it her? Boy, I wish they could use some kind of video enhancement to get a sharper picture on that.
WTH is this and why hasn’t it been put out?
B
#476 – I wondered about the “no friends in Charlottesville” statement myself — didn’t Morgan go to high school there? I just think none of us knows our teenagers as well as we think we do, especially in this day and age with “social networking”, etc. My daughter is a sophomore in college and I’ve never been on her Facebook site, but I’m pretty sure there are “friends” on there I’ve never seen before in my life.
George and Blink, Good Morning
re: Heidi Childs and David Meltzer
Until reading this linked article, I did not know they were parked on a Wednesday night, “off-hours” at a “day time facility”, which I now realize accounts for their isolation and lack of witnesses. They went somewhere to be alone and talk – - Heidi was going to tell David about her plans to take pre-med – - so it is likely they were familiar with this spot, and knew it might provide them privacy.
http://www2.newsadvance.com/lna/news/local/article/two_teens_killed_in_montgomery_county_from_lynchburg/18973/
http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=11094156
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Interesting in regards to the recently released call for witnesses to a “gray or silver” mini-van, is this article from August 29:
(snipped)
“Neighbors in nearby Caldwell Fields Have been questioned about a 1990s sedan seen in the area.
Jeff Caldwell, said he had seen the car go back and forth along the snaking, rural road for the past two months or so.
“I don’t notice a car until I’ve seen it four or five times,” he said.
Vera Caldwell, his wife, said police described the car as gray or grayish-silver.”
http://calvininjax.wordpress.com/2009/08/29/killing-of-two-virginia-tech-students-a-random-act-say-police/
WPG, thanks for posting that, if that vehicle is of concern, it was traveling that route prior to the first semester.
B
Does anyone have a link to the video to go with the transcript for the Issues with Jane vm show on November 16? Every clip that I can find ends just before the Morgan Harrington segment. For example, from the Dr. Archer site:
http://dr-dale.com/press-release/CNN-Headline-News-HLN-November-16-2009-7-8pm-EST-discussing-high-profile-crime-cases
Thanks.
Xactly Lizzy-
This is what I am saying, where is it?
B
sweetpea (re: #459) I am in no position to “discredit” other posts, I just feel strongly that her movements and the reality on the ground at that busy campus that night point to – for me – the likelihood she was heading away from JPJ to meet (or re-meet) with friends in the area (possibly living in the residential section along Ivy Lane), and something happened to her amongst said friends. It’s certainly possible she was abducted by a stranger… but that scenario – at this point in the investigation – doesn’t sit right with me.
wpgmouse (re: #463)
First of all, upon re-read of my comment, I apologize for my tone – I did not mean it in the snarky way it may have been interpreted. Your theory is certainly as valid as mine.
I believe the BB players made a potentially valuable contribution to the investigation, but I don’t think they’re responsible for her disappearance. And, while we (ie the public) may be “dealing with unknown individuals” at this point, I don’t think LE is is anymore (jmo). I also regret my apparent mischaracterization of your description re: a possible criminal encounter between MH and a theoretical assailant on or near the bridge. It’s certainly a possibility. I am of the opinion she disappeared elsewhere, later in the evening… but it’s all guesswork. Thanks for the contributions you make here.
B – have you heard anything you can share about an alleged witness’s account of a distraught young man asking for directions to Harrisonburg at a gas station in Boyd Tavern? Is this considered credible? Not sure, but then the timeline would be off.
B
Is there a link to watch the newest video that they think might show Morgan, that was mentioned in the cnn transcripts?
“WTH is this and why hasn’t it been put out?
B”
If you are referring to the “outside the concert” video comment, better believe WTH.
This Nancy Grace show clip on youtube has the clearest footage of the arena inside and more in regards to the movements of the blonde dressed in black (Dee S. says this is her with her boyfriend). Might need replays to pick up on everything. The video also focuses in on a blonde, from the back, close to the stage. Wonder if this is not Dee S. as there is a guy wearing a white short-sleeved shirt with a green insiginia on the right sleeve, standing extremely close to her on the left. Also the hair seems to be “smoother” or straighter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7YlZTNSeg&feature=related
Blink
Wonder why the switch from a sedan to a minvan in regards to August 27.
right, makes me think POI established.
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Oops, I believe I may have read that wrong. They were speaking of the first video that was found to be Dee?
No, you did not. That specifically states outside the arena and that they are unsure who it is. The video inside the arena is definately Dee S. This is new info, and would really like to see it, obviously.
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B – True (unless the account of the alleged witness’s story had the time of the encounter wrong).
But point taken, and MH’s timeline is really the only thing asserted by LE as concrete at this point.
I would not characterize it as concrete until we know how much of it is witnesses and how much of it is verifiable data ( ie: collective cell records, content of texts, pings, any other unknown physical or direct evidence.
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J2K
No problem. I appreciate your comments.
I also believe LE likely has an individual(s) in their sights.
“Blink
Wonder why the switch from a sedan to a minvan in regards to August 27.”
“right, makes me think POI established.
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Yep.
first, I hope everyone had an enjoyable and safe Thanksgiving.
Whenever I can’t sleep, which is often, I think of all the scenarios of what could have happened to Morgan. I have been leaning toward the idea she was with “friends” or someone and possibly overdosed. The “friends” in a panic, hid her somewhere not wanting to be implicated in drugs or death. If this is the case, they hid her well. The idea that she was picked up by a predator seemed too far fetched. Then I read this article by a criminal profiler.
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2009/10/morgan-dana-harrington-profiler.html#more
Doesn’t seem far fetched to this person who knows way more than I do about it.
Somehow I wanted to believe it was partying gone bad, and not an intentional abduction for my own sake. I really hate the idea that she may have been taken by someone for evil purposes. Like everyone who posts here I have hoped so much for a happy outcome.
Blink
I did not know Morgan worked for her father at THE MEDICAL CENTER this past summer.
“VA woman vanished from concert” JVM video, October 21
time in at 7:25 where her father says this in reply to JVM asking about any noticed problems
http://www.cnn.com/video/
Thanks for the link – it’s certainly helpful (and scary) to hear from experts on these matters. The profile did, however, give me pause in that Schurman-Kauflin’s assessment of the MH case assumes she was not familiar with the area around the venue. I don’t believe that’s true.
(“This case highlights the dangers inherent at public events. People who go there generally don’t know the vicinity, and this can cost them,” Dr. Schurman-Kauflin said in an interview with Investigation Discovery. …)
Sorry, I should have clarified “the Medical Center” for other readers.
Morgan’s father:
Dr. Dan Harrrington,Vice President for Academic Affairs, Carilion Clinic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carilion_Clinic
the problem i have with this being amongst friends,is that it seems theories are suggesting that amongst friends she pershished,either due to a substance ingestion or accident(injury),and that the friends are covering it up,scared to incriminate themselves.to me that is the most hard to believe of all the theories(even harder than jealous girlfriends)where is the 911 call ? usually people are in distress before they die and the people around freak out and call 911,if their sick ,that sick call parents,if your so self concerned with getting caught high yourself(which i find highly unlikely,amongst friends,even drug party aguaintances have a humane code of honor,some even take the rap for each other)you cowardly run/leave,and obviously its ruled od ,or accidental injury due to accident during intoxication.once again as casey anthony,this is too long and too people to drag out an accident,and scared to tell, hurting other people along the way,there are no signs of the way people typically react in accident situation.
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Blink and all, regarding the video referenced in the transcript of the JVM show- I have been searching for any footage- all posters on youtube have just the 4:56 minute clip sans Morgans case.
This says to me that there was something to that sighting and LE possibly has footage of her interacting with a group of people outside the arena. -
“And sir, let me go back to the photo, the video we have of the actual — if we can see that one more time. The actual — there`s a circle and we see her outside the concert and but we`re not sure it`s her.
I mean, are they trying to make that sharper so that — there it is. What are cops doing to try to zoom in on that to see who she was hanging with and what was going on there, sir?”
Are the people seen in this video the BB players? Is it Morgan? This show was aired November 16. This would definitely be new information. Why has this video vanished down the rabbit hole?
Thanks for bringing this to our attention Blink. What could it mean?
Mom3, this is making zero sense to me right now. It is not the only thing I am aware of that seems to have disappeared.. working on it.
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