Morgan Harrington Case: Separating Fact From Fiction From Facebook Part II

Posted by BOC Staff | Missing Persons,Morgan Harrington | Friday 20 November 2009 11:00 am

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Charlottesville, VA– Just passing the month mark, the disappearance of Morgan Harrington from the John Paul Jones Area located on the UVA campus, leaves us with more questions than answers. Part II

The Faces of Her Facebook

Help Find Morgan Harrington was developed by a few concerned individuals interested in spreading the word about Morgan’s disappearance and boasts over 30,000 members. Not all posts are welcome.

NelsonIn particular, a member by the name of Nelson Kane was recently banned for posting very detailed hypothesis scenarios that sparked a firestorm of interest in the self-appointed athlete scout. His posts were deleted at the request of Law Enforcement who admit tasking two officers with monitoring the web for such activity in Morgan’s case.

Additionally, Mr. Kane reached out to several individuals on facebook as well as the Harrington family’s findmorgan.com site in attempts to speak to the family directly and request an interview. The Harrington’s were made aware of the concern for such requests by sources close to the investigation.

 He has recently changed his facebook drastically. Nkoldfacebook

Mr. Kane, a member of the family owning the longtime furniture store of the same name in Charlottesville is also a UVA alumni and season ticket holder. In addition to UVA, Kane also claims to have attended Virginia Tech on many of his many social networking profiles. He also fancies himself as somewhat of a Rock band critic.

On his site, nkscouting.com which he has maintained Nkane1since 2001, Kane chronicles his trips to scout mostly High School basketball and football athletes. In an effort to make his site more interesting (his words) he details the travel experience, routes, times and in some cases photos of his visits to High Schools mostly within a few hours driving distance.  

Very early on in Morgan’s case, blinkoncrime.com explored the idea that perhaps the double murder of VT freshmen David Metzler and Heidi Childs on August 27th should be investigated as a possible link to Morgan’s case simply because they attend the school and Morgan and Heidi bare a remarkable resemblance to one another.

 

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As far as very odd coincidences go, the location of Nelson Kane’s scouting foray the evening of the August 28th could not be more relevant.

 

Kane scouted the game at Jefferson Forest High School. The very Kane0828School Heidi Childs graduated from a year earlier. Unlike most of Kane’s other journal entries of his athlete accolades, there is no mention of his travel experience to or from Forest High School so it is unclear where he left from, when he got there, or when he returned home. 

This is in no way an accusation that Mr. Kane had any involvement whatsoever in such a heinous crime, of course, but given his proclivities for leaving at all hours of the day and night his keen attention to travel detail and familiarity with the area: Perhaps he saw someone or something amiss in his trip that could help investigators.

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On Saturday October 17th, Kane scouts a game, listens to the UVA football game on his way home and is home in plenty of time to make the concert.

 

Blink how do you know he was at the concert you ask? I do not. I do know he knows alot about security at the JPJ Arena, how to navigate the different lots near Uhall, and of course that there are blue portable lavatories next to Lanigan Field. His posts from the Charlottesville Daily Progress below:

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  1. DTA says:

    Can you tell me Blink what I need to do to find the posts. I only see as far as 486 then it stops. I tried TrackBack URI but it does not changeI do not know how to get to a new thread any other way

  2. mosaic says:

    Observer — your posts provide the “grounding” logic that I count on to make sense of this case. I am curious about a comment that you make:

    “LE believes that MH entered a vehicle on/around the Copeley Bridge and exited CV; her trajectory after that and subsequent location remain a mystery.” Exited CV is what confuses me…how does LE know she left CV? I understand the logic of placing her on the bridge entering a vehicle, but leaving the city….?

    I don’t mean this as a challenge to your statement but rather as a way to eliminate areas where she may possibly be. (i.e. if it’s known she left CV, then it’s inefficient to look for her in CV) However, the ground searches did not cover the entire CV area so isn’t it possible that she could be somewhere in CV? Admittedly, the surrounding mountains and undeveloped land seem like a more likely place to find a missing person.

  3. J2K says:

    Observer (re: #1472)
    As always, thanks for streamlining the Facts of this case (as well as for your elegant, effective use of grammar and prose).

    Georgie re:
    “I said Good Day, sir.”
    “I. Said. GOOD. DAY.”
    (#1460)

    I was not channeling Tootsie, per se – in fact, I forgot where I even picked that up ’til you mentioned it. It’s just something I drop here and there to comically underscore a dis … though, I suppose it may not translate well online.
    G’day,
    J2K

    B – do you believe the witness to MH with the four darkly attired young men is accurate? If so, I’d be compelled to think one of them was exBF (it he’s the current POI), and he and his three friends had tix to the show as well (maybe even not directly related to MH’s planned outing with JMU friends). They may have been aware one another were going, but if she found herself barred from re-entry and connected with him and his friends briefly before they were going in for Metallica’s set (per witness account), then perhaps he offered to skip the show and drive her home because he was going to be a hero/”GG.”

    If he’s who she walked away from and toward the BB players, then he may have driven his car around to the bridge by the time she was hiking over it with her thumb out (maybe being a little dramatic to make a point? ie, I’d rather ride with a stranger than you, jerkface), pulling over to tell her not to be silly and hitch-hike, that he’d give her a ride home – a conversation Granny may have heard the angrier portion thereof. If she changed her mind and went with him, then I have these questions:

    Were the friends of exBF aware he missed the show after they left him with MH? (Did *they* have to find another ride home?) Have they been interviewed by LE?

    If the MHFriends determined who was “giving her a ride home,” then can we glean that LE is telling them not to identify the young man publicly because it will hamper their recovery/judicious efforts?

    If this scenario is close to what occurred before the exBF and MH drove away from Cville and headed “home” toward Blacksburg, then LE has a specific individual in their scope. How can circumstantials (ie, his friends saying they left the two together outside, and exBF never joined them in the show – or that exBF left them there without a ride home; in addition to MHFriends confirming they knew he would be there and they think she may have gone off with him) not be enough to build a case around and make an arrest by now? (However, I sense the fragile complexities inherent in this “circumstantial” evidence even as I type this… and I guess my conclusions are the same: Dude’s been damn lucky so far, and processes inherent in the criminal-justice system sometimes work against the victim, delaying justice itself.

    I hope we don’t have to wait much longer.

    J2- No, I believe that to be Dee S. We CAN confirm from her own account and video she was with her BF and 3 other dudes in black shirts that evening.
    B

  4. sue says:

    Wow. Now one of Morgan’s more strangely obsessed Facebook fans claims to be a police officer.

    Funny he never mentioned that before.
    who?
    B

  5. fish says:

    good evening all.

    if LE does indeed monitor this site. could they please organize another search so that we all can come out and help.

    there would be nothing, i am sure, all of us, would like more than to give the Harrington Family and Morgan PEACE this holiday season!

    thank you blink, for posting this!

  6. rabbit19 says:

    Is it me or does all of this “circle” talk sound similar to that posted on PH’s website?

  7. wpgmouse says:

    Blink

    Please remove my other cut and paste disaster postings if possible. Thank you.
    dRATs, let me try this again.

    Wonder if the family of the individual are

    A. completely unaware
    B. suspicious
    C. very aware
    D. visibly distraught, visibly affected
    E. supportive and protective of the individual out of love
    F. fearful of the individual
    G. fearful of particular repercussions
    H. protecting the family
    I. assisting the individual to evade
    J. have completely distanced themselves from the individual
    K. co-operative with the investigation
    L. uncooperative with the investigation
    M. not involved with/have not been approached in the investigation

  8. mammamary says:

    Hello, am amazed at all of the posts, awesome care and concern, can hardly keep up with it all.

    One thing that has been bothering me, and I have only watched one video online, was an interview w the Harringtons. In the interview, Gil was going over the “what ifs”. And she said what if we didin’t buy the tickets, etc. But one thing popped out to me….it was something like “what if she didn’t sit in that section” or “what if the tickets were in a different section” or someting like that. So to me, I’m thinking what did that have to do with this, was it someone that she met at the concert, sitting nearby? And agreed to go outside for whatever reason. Did anyone else catch that and did that have any significance? Am not a technogeek or facebooker so do nor remember where I got the link, prob Blinking.

    Hoping and praying for peace for the family and community and to bring her home before the holidays.

  9. wpgmouse says:

    “I Heard It Through The Grapevine” – about the realization of the end or potential loss of a relationship, “hearing” about the “woman’s life” or “her plans that do not include him” (or in this day “reading” or “percieving” of it perhaps on the internet), trying to persuade the woman he is the only one for her. IMO, also relays the individual has been away from her for a time (not clear in what respect).
    Applying these lyrics, to the potential thinkings, emotions and actions of the individual in Morgan’s case, well, . . .profound.

    Many are familiar with the lyrics, others are not:

    MARVIN GAYE – I HEARD IT THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE LYRICS

    Ooh, I bet you’re wondering how I knew
    About you’re plans to make me blue
    With some other guy that you knew before.
    Between the two of us guys
    You know I love you more.
    It took me by surprise I must say,
    When I found out yesterday.
    Don’t you know that…

    (Chorus:)
    I heard it through the grapevine
    Not much longer would you be mine.
    Oh I heard it through the grapevine,
    Oh and I’m just about to lose my mind.
    Honey, honey yeah.

    I know that a man ain’t supposed to cry,
    But these tears I can’t hold inside.
    Losin’ you would end my life you see,
    Cause you mean that much to me.
    You could have told me yourself
    That you love someone else.
    Instead…

    (Chorus)

    People say believe half of what you see,
    Son, and none of what you hear.
    I can’t help bein’ confused
    If it’s true please tell me dear?
    Do you plan to let me go
    For the other guy you loved before?
    Don’t you know…

    (Chorus)

    http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/thebigchill/ihearditthroughthegrapevine.htm

  10. Nice lady says:

    You guys are great. Sometimes I feel like I’m the kid in the class who screwed up the grading curve when trying to keep up here!

    I’m thinking the convo when MH first arrived and asked who the opening band was was just that. I’ve been to concerts (not many, mind you) where I had no clue who was opening. I only knew who the main act was I purchased the ticket to see and asked that same question myself upon arriving. I think she was just a Metallica fan who was looking forward to a fun night of music. IMHO, though.

    Please keep up the great work and brainstorming.

  11. RNmom says:

    Comment by on belief — December 5, 2009 @ 6:17 am

    Wherever Morgan is, I hope she is finally safe and free.

    The truth doesn’t change. Rev. Diana said the UVA LE called the Harringtons at 8:30am. DanH said he called the friends when Morgan didn’t come home for her 12pm math study and check book balance lessons.

    It is not the rest of the world’s fault that these girls made bad choices with dire consequences. Personal accountability never goes out of style.

    First of all I would like to know what OB thinks Morgan is safe and free from.

    Who is Rev Diana? And why would UVA call the Harringtons at 8:30 am?

    Also no it isn’t the rest of the world’s fault that 20 y/o girls made bad choices but, haven’t we ALL made bad choices? What about the personal accountability of the person who took advantage of someone that made a bad choice? Accountability for taking a beautiful young girl from her family and her life.

    Why does this OB person have such hostility towards Morgan and her family?

  12. ross says:

    re 1460 Comment by AtotheK — December 6, 2009 @ 3:36 pm
    For some of the posters that were commenting on the “who care’s we are here to see Metallica, right?” quote from Morgan before the concert.
    I am not sure I even believe that she did not know who was the opening act. She had the tickets for 6 months on the fridge. The tickets probably had ALL acts on the stub.
    I would be more convinced if she said, ” who cares I am not going to see any of them anyway”

    Rarely do tickets have the name of any other than the headlining act listed, especially printed 6 months in advance.

    They did have the acts on them in fact, thats correct.
    B

  13. Susan says:

    It’s Sunday night as I catch up on these posts and I am so aware of how blessed I have been to play in the fresh snow with my little baby girl today. I am praying for insight and miracles in this case. Let this be the week the Harrington’s little girl goes home.

    What a wonderful comment. You know, Blink Jr. and I built our first snowman and partial “snowfort” with his playlist blaring from the Ipod as we faux danced with our shovels last night.
    Mr. Blink served his nightowls HoCho (Blinkette had a dance and was secretly jealous without letting on..)

    Thanks for the reminder, I am going to chew on that memory for a while. It gets hard to go back “in” sometimes, but I am reminded of many that do not have that luxury. Thank you all for your continuing work for those who really need it.
    B

  14. wpgmouse says:

    from Observer’s comments:
    “LE believes that MH entered a vehicle on/around the Copeley Bridge and exited CV”

    Observer,

    Noted you commented without mention of JPJ Arena, passing it and saying CV. On what is LE basing their belief Morgan was taken out of Charlottesville. (I understand you may not be able to answer).
    “exited CV” is critical information on its own.

  15. sue says:

    CW.

    “” never said Morgan had to sneak anywhere. I am not sure where you got that thought from? I also know that Morgan was living on campus with a friend. In fact if you want more detail she often visited her parents where she washed her clothes.

    All I am saying is I believe that Morgan had plans to meet someone outside the arena and that does not mean she was sneaking anywhere. As far as my body language training yes I do have that if you must know. You are trained in this as a police officer. On the job you learn to read facial expressions, watch eyes, leg, and arm movements. If you do not learn this one quick move by a suspect could cost you your life. There is much more to the training than that but Sarah is not a suspect she is just a friend of Morgan.

    I do think that Sarah is upset and missing her friend. I don’t think we can tell what emotions she is feeling about this ordeal from this video clip. It is the time at home alone when she is feeling the pain of this I am sure. I do not put any blame on Sarah as far as what Morgan’s plans were. Morrgan is an adult and she has a right to make her own choices and decisions. All of us can make bad choices and we all do at some point in life. But I do know that Morgan had plans to meet someone outiside the arena.”

    quote from Facebook http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=162224546575&ref=ts

  16. wpgmouse says:

    Taking both BlackPearl’s and Observer’s comments into account,
    one could possible conclude the individual lives not far from Charlottesville (to be able to clean up and return), or had access to the residence of someone living close to Charlottesville, or had access to a facility with provisions to clean up – - a place, building, RV.

  17. sue says:

    Funny, it was just deleted. It was the discussion of the Eyes For Lies blog post about the Sara Snead video.

  18. Kris Kringle says:

    wpg- what about the fam is in complete denial with just a hint of the gift of fear? (intuition).

  19. Chad says:

    Wpg,
    Observer has a unique way of hinting to us…..way to go to read between the lines! Excellent Wpg Thanks for those words of the lyrics. More food for thought. Blackpearl, once again, you are on to something……observer did leave out Gojira. Keep posting and brain storming. I’ll go back and lurk now.

  20. wpgmouse says:

    Process has led me to this – - are we talking military.

    Not there, if we are ROTC or military school, but no, nothing official, more wanna be.
    B

  21. Word Girl says:

    Just gotta say that I so value all the posters here. I am daunted by your investigative and research skills. I admire your insights and great questions. Some posts are very dense with nuance that escapes me. Thank you for your attention to the details of this senseless crime. I do believe that justice will prevail.

    Observer, glad you popped back in. I think we got used to your regular visits and ‘heard’ you when you expressed that you weren’t chastising or in any way being bossy.
    You’ve got the guts to say what you mean. You make yourself think clearly and express yourself clearly and concisely. You’ve challenged me to do the same. (Good luck with that!) Sometimes it might seem like a post isn’t welcome, but I say “steam ahead!”
    We need you. We need everyone here.

  22. luvblink says:

    Blink the answer to your question in Sue’s post is Charles Spotlight Walton. I thought that was weird too, just last week he said aliens had taken Morgan. You don’t need to post this, just answering your question. Thanks for all you do.

  23. Word Girl says:

    Just Desserts–fine entrance you made!
    (Not just because you mentioned me, but that does sweeten the pot.)

    I’m glad you mentioned DW’s comment that he “feel[s] more like a man now” because it tells me that a 30-year-old with that recognition might be at a 14-year-old emotional level.

    But when you said, “And somewhere down the line, if justice is served here, someone who may have had illusions of being a pretty big cheese could wind up smelling like rotten ginkos pureed with past-its-prime Livarot! And who will love him then?”

    First question: what’s a rotten ginko?

    Next question: Now that you’ve gotten your feet wet, what do you think about the case? It would be a shame to waste that brain in lovely, rhetorical flourish.

  24. NYCDude says:

    Good evening all. I don’t post all that often but read this site regularly and like to weigh in when something interests me.

    I have an opinion I’d like someone here to expand on regarding these “tracfones” or prepaid cell phones. Yes, they are untraceable to a degre in that anyone can buy them and never identify themselves to have them activated. I would see that as an issue in prosecution, ie evidentiary value of calls received from the phone.

    As for the purpose of resolving this case: IF there was a call received by one of MH’s friends from a prepaid phone, it is true that finding the phone’s owner would be a difficult (but NOT impossible) process. If they had an originating number to work with, and LE felt it was within just cause, they could monitor that phone’s other calls, past present and future (assuming it hasn’t been discarded). They could interview other people who received calls from this number and press to find out whose phone it is. The important thing to note here is PROVING whose phone it is, is of importance from a legal standpoint only. Insofar as to track the number solely as a point in the right direction, perhaps as a clue to lead to Morgan, I think LE could have (and probably would have) done that already.

    I think “untraceable” is a broad term. Drug dealers and terrorists buy these phones and use them quickly, then discard them. In this instance however……I just don’t think a call was made that they can’t trace..

    I have worked in the communications field, though that doesn’t make me an expert, so please someone correct me if I’m wrong here.

    I agree with Observer, as I have already said myself, that LE was just trying to corroborate whether or not she was at any time “free” without use of a phone, and tried to borrow one.

  25. lizzy says:

    Two probable time frames for contact breaks with the BG stand out for me–the most obvious is 6 months ago. The other is 2006, when she changed schools. She moved to a lower-rated school, away from her friends of the “nine,” and while there are specialty programs at many of the schools, there don’t seem to be any at LB. While there may be other reasons, the most obvious seems to me to be a need to get away from someone at NS. Another student? Maybe. Or maybe someone in more authority, but no desire on the part of the parents to drag Morgan through something.

    So it’s been a long time. But it does seem like another critical time frame to examine. Of course, her parents probably know if it’s relevant, unless more recent events have their attention elsewhere.

  26. J2K says:

    sue (re: Facebook)

    I’m considering the logistics of staging an online intervention at this point, my dear.
    *Why* do you do this to yourself? I mean, I respect takin’ one for the team, but still…
    (Though, I must admit, your “dispatches from the field,” as it were, are at times intriguing and often hilarious.)

  27. Observer says:

    RE: sherri Dec. 6, 9:23pm: If MH did in fact attempt to place a call using someone else’s phone, it may have been to call for help; however, I am not convinced of that.

    The Tracfone I’m referring to is one that a person might purchase not necessarily so that they could not be tracked–although certain individuals do buy a Tracfone for that very reason–or because they had insufficient funds/credit to purchase a regular cellphone call plan. For example (I hate to use her as an example again, but…) when she was younger I bought my god-daughter her first cell phone–a Tracfone. I thought this might be most appropriate for her first foray into the cellular world. [Needless to say she's long since graduated to a Crackberry Storm...but really wants (read: "needs") an I-Phone, compliments her favorite god-mother.]

    Bottom line: Sometimes consumers purchase “throw-away” phones like the Tracfone simply because they’re inexpensive and require no contract.

    RE: BlackPearl, Dec. 6, 9:31pm: I do not believe that the BG has ties to LE or security. At this time I am not asserting any affiliation he may have, to include EM services. I do not believe his affiliation–quasi or otherwise–is material to the investigation.

    I did not intentionally omit Gojira from the list of groups, e.g., Metallica and LOG. [It was an oversight on my part.] I do not believe that any of the groups associated with the JPJ concert on the evening of Oct. 17, 2009 are related to MH’s disappearance.

    RE: fish, Dec. 6, 10:06pm: While I’m certain that LE is sympathetic to the public’s continued desire to assist again in searching for MH, please see my earlier post (Dec. 6, 4:56pm) in response to Mandy’s similar question regarding the reasons why additional ground searches have not been initiated.

    RE: wpgmouse: Thanks for posting Marvin’s Grapevine lyrics for the readers who might not be familiar with it. Food for thought.

  28. Kelly says:

    Still lovin ya Blink!! Just been observing, but I can’t call myself Observer. LOL!

  29. Blink says:

    A stern but affectionate post from Blink to ALL-

    Please resist the urge to ask me privately who the ex bf or possible POI is- I had 20 posts to go through with different guesses. You must know there is a zero percent chance I would respond to that- How could I?

    If and when I am ready to construct a post alleging a named person’s guilt for what happened to Morgan, you will be the first to know.
    Let’s accomplish responsibly please.
    B

  30. yoshi says:

    Blink,
    I’m assuming you know the identity of our angry poster from yesterday. I don’t want to point fingers and I don’t know if this person has a connection to both MH and your site, just the latter or no connection at all. At any case, he fits the profiles that have been suggested here and I thought I would share. Please edit/clip as you see fit.

    I have come across a few posts on the hook related to a taser incident at the arena in Nov. and a couple of posts related to Morgan hitchiking the night of her disappearance. This poster brags about a Bachelor’s in Criminal Justice, his training and certification to use tasers/stun guns, and his work as a correctional officer. He comes off as a know it all and tries to back up one of his arguments w/ a link to the company that manufacters taser guns.

    http://www.readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2009/11/30/taser-stops-man-and-bottle-from-entering-stadium/

    Regarding Morgan hitchhiking:
    http://www.readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2009/11/13/hitchhiking-missing-morgan-harrington-still-missing-sought-a-ride/

    On further investigation, I found that he was a member of Western New England’s Lacrosse team. (he had a particular knowledge and interest in the sport from what he posted yesterday) His current Linked In profile states that he works security for Boar’s Head Inn in Charlottesville and there is a connection between him and DW as they have at least one mutual myspace friend. http://www.myspace.com/pbjohnson79

    Notice the comment he made on May 5th 2007. Sounds like a real winner.

    So let’s see here:
    30 years old (check)
    played a college sport (check)
    background/knowldege of LE (check)
    works in security (check)
    is “trained and certified” to use tasers and stun guns (check)
    in the “periphery”, if you will to DW (check)
    is familiar with the Charlottesville area (check)

    So, is this our poster, MH’s ex, POI, all of the above, or just some random guy or guys w/ the same name? His last name is very common – and- Could a taser or a stun gun have been used to subdue MH?

    http://www.myspace.com/timothywoodford

    O my aching head. Someone else please take this one. Yoshi worked hard on this information.
    B

  31. suz says:

    RNmom, the purse was found sunday morning, and the dad has said that wherever Morgan is now, she doesn’t have ID on her, so i reckon her ID was in her purse and the uva le could have called to say hey, we found your purse (maybe she still had her folks’ address on her ID?)

  32. wpgmouse says:

    my comment:
    “Process has led me to this – - are we talking military.”

    “Not there, if we are ROTC or military school, but no, nothing official, more wanna be.
    B”

    Blink, sorry, I realize I jumped way too quickly on the “Barracks” locations and have since left that behind.

  33. katesro says:

    JPJ website shows 1,200 spaces for parking then an additional 1,300 in another lot. 5-7 minutes away is more parking. Does anyone know which direction the 5-7 minute away parking is located from the arena?

  34. suz says:

    mammamary, do you have link to that video? i just started watching the vids myself and haven’t seen that one. I wonder if her injury was sustained in section 312, and they think that’s why she let the venue. that doesn’t square with the ‘planning to rendezvous with an ex’ theory, but then again, that simply might have been their current thinking at the time of the interview as to why she went outside…

  35. lizzy says:

    Just a couple of observations, and only from my memory, as I don’t have time/energy to find the links tonight.

    DW–I don’t think his blog post to said he felt more “like a man,” but that he was feeling more “male.” Different connotation to me, fwiw.

    Dan H–In the first articles, I recall that it said he was going to help her with studying for her math test and with going over the spring schedule before registration. It would have been the time of the semester for a junior to prepare for registration, and many students have their parents go over it–not so much because they need their input, but so there’s no hindsight by those paying the bill. The change from “spring schedule” which seemed logical to me to “overdrawn checkbook balancing” came later, and that seemed like a significant change, although I don’t know why.

  36. lizzy says:

    Oh, regarding the “stinky ginkgo.” Female gingko trees, once they reach a certain age, bear a dreadful smelling fruit that has been known to induce uncontrollable vomiting in those passing by. (Maybe that’s why the tree can live 1000 years.)

  37. radiogirl says:

    1493-sue.Sue where are you logging on to read the posts concerning Morgan? TIA,R

  38. wpgmouse says:

    Kris Kringle:
    “wpg- what about the fam is in complete denial with just a hint of the gift of fear? (intuition).”

    Absolutely possible, as well.
    I also wonder if the individual kept family in the dark or misled them in some way, so they would not “interfere” with his true, on-going thoughts and emotions. With the new gf, perhaps they thought (or hoped) he had accepted, let go and moved on.

  39. J2K says:

    B – (re: #1492)

    Ah, the perils of linear thinking.
    So, if that’s Dee (as the woman herself essentially claims), she took off her tights once inside the show? Or, the witness was unable to accurately recall what she saw?

    Regardless, do you believe her exBF/POI had a ticket to the concert and did not, in the end, use it?

    Lastly, do you think the case’s circumstantial aspects are what’s hindering prosecution?
    If I may: Observer? Your thoughts?

    Possibly, or it was dark and the witness is mistaken.

    On the ticket, I am of the opinion he was not a ticket holder, at least through the set of tickets purchased by DH.

    I think evidence or lack thereof is hindering this case. I would remind everyone that in a best case scenario, when there is no direct physical evidence, Investigators working a circumstantial case have one hand tied behind their backs to secure warrants.

    If they have a POI who has representation from the get go, much harder.. It is really a full 30 days to run through that cycle, IF SUCCESSFUL.

    In theory and of course hypothetical:

    Brinnnnnng Brinnnnnnng, Brinnnnnng Brinnnnnng: Hello, Atty X, We have been advised you represent X, and we feel an interview with X will help us with our efforts in locating Morgan Harrington; We feel your Client in the aforementioned could be a witness in this ongoing investigation.

    Atty X: Well, Lt. Major Goodluckwiththat, we would be happy to meet with your investigators the third week from next month, and since my Client is only being considered a possible witness and not a suspect, would you mind stipulating that in the event, during the course of that interview, you state directly that my Client is being evaluated as a potential suspect or agree that anything used in said interview is inadmissable in a prosecution against him.

    You know, just as a precaution. We’re good lemme pencil you in…

    (screeching halt sound) LtGoodluckwiththat: Why, of course you know it is our obligation to investigate every lead in a mp investigation and we cannot know in advance where that will end up. If your Client is innocent, he has nothing to fear from us.

    Atty X: Good luck with That. Call me when you have an arrest warrant, Let me know if you need any samples of securing same with no evidence, I have a template file we toss around at the monthly Bar soiree.
    B

  40. luvblink says:

    This was posted on Websleuths

    Originally Posted by VirginiaDoll
    Ok…please take your time reading all of this, there is a lot of information. Some of it, I have labeled clearly as RUMORS, and these should not be treated as fact.

    RUMOR! (directly from a friend who works in the Athletic Department at UVA)
    *2 basketball players took leave of absences after being questioned, and according to my friend, allegedly one was considered their prime suspect for approx. 9 days. He was interviewed multiple times and has now, suppossudly been cleared. This student is coming back from leave, so I don’t want to share the initials.

    RUMOR! (from a Roanoke resident who’s family knows the Harrington Family)
    *Allegedly, Morgan has used drugs in the past.
    *Allegedly, Morgan had been known to take off on her own from time to time, leaving her friends to go off and hang out with other groups of friends. Allegedly, many of her friends had become annoyed with this bad habit. Suppossudly on the night of the concert, her friends left without her, because taking off with others/finding her own ride was something she typically did-allegedly.

    SCENARIO’S provided by friends of MH’s family and friends (these are the common scenarios from the Roanoke Community who knew her):

    1. MH was under the influence of drugs, which may have put her in a manic mood (typical of Cocaine) where she felt on top of the world, safe, and invincible OR she was under the infulence of a downer, like alcohol and was confused, disoriented and not in her right fram of mind. She hitch hiked/accepted a ride with the wrong person.

    2. MH got in the car with someone she knew, but did not know well, and in a drug induced moment, something went terribly wrong. Ideas have been someone else who was stranded outside and used that to befriend her, or a friend she had made only recently, someone who didn’t know and love her the way a life long friend would.

    The general consensus is that if she had OD’d or had alcohol poisioning, the friends she was with would have called for help.

    Luv- luv u too, but to me this is
    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. I lost count of how much claptrap posing as “inside friend of friend crap” is posted there. Im sure the Harrington’s are thrilled with such drivel. Sad.
    B

  41. wpgmouse says:

    Observer,
    I went with Marvin instead, hope you understand.
    May I ask why you are limiting to a 25-mile radius?

  42. J2K says:

    yoshi (re: #1522)

    Can’t help B, but interesting post regardless.
    Even if it’s just in the point of fact that our man, the Troll King aka “on belief” – at the very least – subconsciously relates to the POI’s proposed profile.

    (That said, don’t think he’s involved/do think he needs to up his personal levels of empathy, humanity, introspection, and all-around class.)

  43. mammamary says:

    suz – do not remember where the video was posted but two things that may help, one, it was probably a link from this website and, two, was posted around Nov 14-18 as i watched it from a computer that was not mine while visiting family

  44. suz says:

    thanks, mammamary. i’ll look around…

  45. skyler says:

    >>J2- No, I believe that to be Dee S. We CAN confirm from her own account and video she was with her BF and 3 other dudes in black shirts that evening.
    B <<<

    don’t mean to stir the pot — but isn’t Dee in the LOG video, showing she was inside the arena during LOG — the sighting of a female w/ 4 males was at approximately 9 PM after LOG left the stage — this is the Richmond bookkeeper who was running late to the show and a blonde girl matching Morgan’s description w/ 4 males dressed in black stepped out in front of her car on Emmette Rd, parallel to the arena — has Dee made a statement that she was also late to the concert and only went in for Metallica ? — sorry, now my head is starting to spin over the time line — just when I thought I had it figured out !

    btw, I talk to Morgan every day, too — I always ask her: where are you, Morgan? Help us find you —

    I think she is : ) I hope so, anyway : )

  46. wpgmouse says:

    Brinnnnnng,

    Right, right, right,
    keep forgetting about the
    hired-”rhymes with son”
    by a parent.

  47. luvblink says:

    Sarah to DW

    Jul 19, 2009 1:12 PM
    Hi lovely! I saw you were on a few minutes ago, but I was in the middle of posting a blog when I noticed it, so we just barely missed each other. Boo. What’s that thing they say about two ships passing in the night? HAHA! Hey, so in all the time that I’ve been stalking your MySpace profile, its listed you as female, but..no longer….hehe! You’re so awesome :)

    DW
    Jul 19, 2009 7:52 PM
    yeah i think i’ve been feeling more male lately

    Looks like an inside joke between friends

  48. wpgmouse says:

    “Brinnnnnng,
    Right, right, right,
    keep forgetting about the
    hired-”rhymes with son”
    by a parent.”

    Meant no offense to attorneys in general.
    Also, should have clarified, speculation only.

  49. skyler says:

    I can’t believe I didn’t think about this before —

    “follow the freaking money” — it’s a rule of thumb in investigations —

    Is there anyone on this board who are friends with the Harringtons ? You certainly don’t have to identify yourself as such, but, is there anyone who can gently persuade them to use that Metallica money and hire a private investigator ?

    They need to follow the money trail — for example — did Morgan receive a delivery of flowers or a gift or something — did she speak about having dinner, lunch w/ this ex in the recent past — is there anything that can link them financially together — were the tables turned in their relationship — did she have money and he didn’t and she paid for things — could that be a reason her acct. was overdrawn ?

    Morgan’s apt. needs to be investigated by trained eyes — an independent forensics lab — I totally understand the emotional tug of the Harringtons that they don’t want her things disturbed — but girls doodle in their notebooks — someone who is trained to look into these things needs to study her things — girls also keep mementos — stupid stuff — if LE would just get a warrant for the guy’s bank — see if his credit cards show he purchased gas either the night of the concert or again days later — if you’re only driving around town, you don’t have to fill up your tank more than once a week — especially if you claimed you never left town —

    There is a money trail here — LE has to follow the money and I bet you they will find a connection — or at least enough to give them probable cause to bring him in

    Geeze, this is so frustrating ……….

    I am not sure they have not done just that, although if they have, it is not because they feel there is any need to go around LE, I think in these situations it becomes clear that there are legal limitations that require the use of one, really.
    B

  50. sabrina says:

    hello to all. i m a first time poster but i have read for awhile. i must say that this is a fantastic website- one of the best i’ve ever seen.

    Anyway, I wad a question. I was looking at the Find Morgan Facebook and I came across a picture that was uploaded by sarah snead. in the left hand corner she wrote “battery”. could that be a clue of some sorts? is she trying to say something about the missing cell phone battery? I’d be interested to hear anyone else’s take on it

    Here is the link to it:

    http://www.facebook.com/photo_search.php?oid=161409341318&view=all#/photo.php?pid=6421239&op=2&o=all&view=all&subj=161409341318&aid=-1&oid=161409341318&id=859175180&fbid=147120240180

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