Morgan Harrington Case: Separating Fact From Fiction From Facebook Part II
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Charlottesville, VA– Just passing the month mark, the disappearance of Morgan Harrington from the John Paul Jones Area located on the UVA campus, leaves us with more questions than answers. Part II
The Faces of Her Facebook
Help Find Morgan Harrington was developed by a few concerned individuals interested in spreading the word about Morgan’s disappearance and boasts over 30,000 members. Not all posts are welcome.
In particular, a member by the name of Nelson Kane was recently banned for posting very detailed hypothesis scenarios that sparked a firestorm of interest in the self-appointed athlete scout. His posts were deleted at the request of Law Enforcement who admit tasking two officers with monitoring the web for such activity in Morgan’s case.
Additionally, Mr. Kane reached out to several individuals on facebook as well as the Harrington family’s findmorgan.com site in attempts to speak to the family directly and request an interview. The Harrington’s were made aware of the concern for such requests by sources close to the investigation.
He has recently changed his facebook drastically.
Mr. Kane, a member of the family owning the longtime furniture store of the same name in Charlottesville is also a UVA alumni and season ticket holder. In addition to UVA, Kane also claims to have attended Virginia Tech on many of his many social networking profiles. He also fancies himself as somewhat of a Rock band critic.
On his site, nkscouting.com which he has maintained since 2001, Kane chronicles his trips to scout mostly High School basketball and football athletes. In an effort to make his site more interesting (his words) he details the travel experience, routes, times and in some cases photos of his visits to High Schools mostly within a few hours driving distance.
Very early on in Morgan’s case, blinkoncrime.com explored the idea that perhaps the double murder of VT freshmen David Metzler and Heidi Childs on August 27th should be investigated as a possible link to Morgan’s case simply because they attend the school and Morgan and Heidi bare a remarkable resemblance to one another.
As far as very odd coincidences go, the location of Nelson Kane’s scouting foray the evening of the August 28th could not be more relevant.
Kane scouted the game at Jefferson Forest High School. The very School Heidi Childs graduated from a year earlier. Unlike most of Kane’s other journal entries of his athlete accolades, there is no mention of his travel experience to or from Forest High School so it is unclear where he left from, when he got there, or when he returned home.
This is in no way an accusation that Mr. Kane had any involvement whatsoever in such a heinous crime, of course, but given his proclivities for leaving at all hours of the day and night his keen attention to travel detail and familiarity with the area: Perhaps he saw someone or something amiss in his trip that could help investigators.
On Saturday October 17th, Kane scouts a game, listens to the UVA football game on his way home and is home in plenty of time to make the concert.
Blink how do you know he was at the concert you ask? I do not. I do know he knows alot about security at the JPJ Arena, how to navigate the different lots near Uhall, and of course that there are blue portable lavatories next to Lanigan Field. His posts from the Charlottesville Daily Progress below:
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True, Blink, I did not emphasize the Harrington’s vulnerability at this time (assuming they are). My weak attempt at making my point of wanting to protect these grieving parents from any criticism, regardless of the path in which they may choose to obtain it, clearly resulted in my failure to acknowledge their present vulnerability and desperate need to trust. The trust that they, the grieving parents, extend, includes all of those/that within this net of investigation, such as the LE, UVA, ESP and it goes on…
Meaning, that they are vulnerable to anyone and everyone right now, but, they are familiar with the paranormal through their church. They are probably not anymore trusting in that area than they are with those who are officially designated to investigate and help them.
It’s getting very late, now, and I’m getting very sleepy; thus, if I have failed to accurately express my thoughts here, once again, then, I apologize. I also want to apologize if I seemed insensitive to anyone. I certainly did not mean it that way.
I only want these parents to find some peace anyway they can and without criticism.
#2168
Blink’s response:
Mom3- I can only say we are working on clarifying info with VSP, and they are open to the idea.
B
That is great to hear Blink, especially in light of hearing Morgan’s Poppa is seeking the help of a PI “at a greatly reduced price”… and his now willingness to contact psychics, and being steered towards Slyvia….so and so. I know you have stated there are some reputable psychics out there. I don’t know if Sylvia is one of them. I hope and pray that one will come forward to fend off any charlatans. Regarding LE, it would be so helpful to finally put some of our theories to rest because of a newly released fact sheet, with KNOWN facts. Thank you for continuing to push forever forward.
#2173 wpgmouse, If anything will get through to OPEN YOUR EYES your heartfelt post should.
Thank you for your comment regarding my previous post #2177. I know we are all touched by the disappearance of Morgan and want her back with her family. I so value your opinion wpgmouse,thank you for valuing mine.
Regarding Karen55′s sighting of Morgan? at Sheetz in Orange, VA on Sunday Oct 18 that couldn’t be confirmed by (arrogant?) LE from the store’s video.
Blink & Commenters, Plz forgive this rant, but… LE needs to understand that it appears they are falling short on our (the public’s) expectations of them. My words are not meant in a disrespectful way.
Given the complexity and difficulty of this case, LE having asked for the public’s help, the fact that LE is refusing to clarify known information that might help us to help them find Morgan, and the seemingly sloppy, somewhat arrogant or insensitive manner of some LE &/or investigators as they pursue the Tips (interviewing Karen & viewing the video at Sheetz for example)… I find myself becoming increasingly concerned (perhaps even angry) about the handling of Morgan’s case.
This case is either WAY BIGGER and farther reaching than any of us can imagine, or whichever Law Enforcement Agency has control of this case has become uncommonly inept &/or something else is gawd-awfully WRONG. How could any LE Agency ask for the public’s help and expect any kind of worthwhile result when they are not forthcoming with any kind of information to go on. This is past ridiculous.
The Harrington’s have done far more than the average family would know to do, or be emotionally capable of doing, or be financially able to do in any kind of similar situation. They have been truly amazing, yet they too seem to be increasingly desperate for some hint of progress.
I’m wondering if the video recorder at Sheetz might have an incorrect time, perhaps changed or not changed to/from Daylight Savings Time since the switchover was so different this year compared to previous years. If the time could be verified (or adjusted for) on the video recorder, and the time of Karen55′s sighting could be clarified, perhaps recording the vehicles that visited Sheetz around that time, there might be SOME little detail that could become corroborating evidence later on. Yet there appears the be little interest in, or appreciation for, the public’s input.
Virginia is MY state and this kind of result is simply not acceptable. We are approaching the 60 day mark. WHO has the ball in this investigation? If our local authorities are unable to find out what happened to Morgan, perhaps its time to call in someone else with different technology, methodology or techniques. IF LE knows what happened to Morgan, but has to delay recovery until they can get information of her exact location, or find evidence that can bring a successful indictment against those responsible, I earnestly and urgently request them to clarify the situation to Morgan’s parents, if no one else. The Harringtons are suffering terribly, especially because they have publicly laid themselves and their emotions on the line to help LE pursue a successful search for their daughter. Please don’t allow insensitivity or a lack of communication to add to the tragedy that has likely already occurred.
Blink, what will happen if LE cannot evoke some movement in this case soon? What can the citizens of Virginia do to convince LE that the public is feeling increasingly concerned for our own safety in our own neighborhoods, for the well-being of our children away at school, for the publicity and financial health of our Universities, our tourism industry, and so much more? There are tremendous consequences to a stalled investigation in the Harrington case. This is becoming a matter of a Loss of Trust in our public authorities.
Sincere Thanks to Blink and all who bring ideas and possibilities to this incredible website.
.
Lovely regarding your post about tracphones. I have had one for about ten years now..the same one..with an antenna…lol. (Darn I need to upgrade that). I paid about 19.95 for the phone and I pay $15.00 every three months. It serves me well. I am not a cell phone user and have no clue how to text. I use it as an emergency phone. If my car breaks down..I can call AAA. If we travel I use it instead of the expensive motel phones. If we go south for the winter it is my long distance phone. I might call hubby on the way home to see if he needs anything. My calls are .25 a minute on the phone a little less if you talk more. The money you pay builds up every month if you don’t use the phone. I have a balance of over $100 on my phone.
I get good reception and can call from just about any place we have traveled to. They are great for seniors, depression age children, those on a budget and those of us that could never in a million years spend $59 dollars a month to “talk”. I hope I have explained my phone. By the way I don’t deal druge. I might take and asparin..now and then.
When a child is missing you do ANYTHING, anything at all to find them. IF that includes the use of psychics, then it includes the use of psychics. How can anyone judge in the least, a man trying desparately to find his daughter. I think it would be unwise to NOT seek the help of a GOOD, authentic psychic, of which there are some out there that could be of assistance to the family. This does not speak to anything other than finding Morgan. I am “highly” educated and if my beloved daughter was MISSING, YOU BET YOUR BONNET I would seek the help of anyone or anything that could help reunite me with my daughter.
Nobody is judging him as you saw in my post and others. We are very afraid they will be taken advantage of. There is a reason even some of the best psychics in the world only get partial or interpretable impressions. The potential to upset these people even further is very high.
B
#1182 -Comment by pinky — December 13, 2009 @ 11:31 pm
OT- I post as rabbit19 as well, when I’m on my desktop, pinky when I’m on my laptop. Sorry if I confused anyone. Sorry B.
Lol. I knew that. There was no accompanying hinky like you had 2 conflicting views with yourself. That’s fine and I appreciate your acknowledgement.
B
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OMG this is priceless. A little comic relief when we need it the most. But wait, are you saying it’s not good to argue with yourself? Uh-oh. Cause me and mary too ain’t been getting along.
Christy Ronnie it’s strange that you say this. I read, cannot remember where. Possibly on this site that Morgan’s father and Heidi’s father both work for Carilion. Not sure if it’s the same hospital or if that is even true. I think that these two things are very odd.
FALSE. Heidie’s Dad is a VSP.
B
Heidi’s father is a VSP Office AND is also on the MedVac 3 Helicopter, which ties him into Carilon, because they have a landing zone for drop off of patients.
Sorry forgot to add the link:
http://www.vdh.state.va.us/OEMS/Files_page/Medevac/Minutes/Medevac4-26-07.pdf
Yes, he was in 07′, but I can’t verify whether or not he still is, thanks for posting Questioner.
B
“I say this because I have been sent some of your posts from a board you were booted from for similar behavior.
B”
B.S. Post them if you have them. . .Anxiously awaiting.
OYE-
This is my house. Step Off already. You want to browbeat people with superior IQ’s to yours than start your own blog. I can tell you if you think your a welcome representation to this family and or friends, you already know that is not true. Be well and Peace.
B
#1171 – OYE,
I have an 18-year-old daughter, college sophomore. We live in a small town and I’ve known her friends since kindergarten. They’re not as close now as they were in high school because they have gone in many directions but they still stay in touch. It’s hard to really know what you’re driving at, but I for one was not surprised that 1) Morgan didn’t wait at the front of the arena – maybe she wanted to continue partying and what a buzz kill to have to sit with security for 90 minutes and 2) the friends left the arena without knowing what was going on with her – “so Morgan has hooked up with somebody, her phone must be dead – okay we’ll see her back at JMU.” I can see how they would think – “gosh it’s midnight. I sure don’t want to wake up the Harringtons and risk getting Morgan in trouble cause she’s met somebody”. Then back at the party: “Ya’ll I’m worried about Morgan”. “Oh she’s fine! She’s with a guy and doesn’t want to call”. I can even see them saying the next morning – “that crazy Morgan, she must have gotten a ride back to Roanoke – can’t wait to hear her funny story”. Yes, hindsight is 20-20, and some people just have better heads on their shoulders than others. Thank God my daughter has a better head on her shoulders than I did at her age. So if what you’re trying to get across is that Morgan’s friends just thought she was partying with/hooked up with someone she knew or had met — we get that! You don’t have to be 18-25 to get that, OYE. I’ve been around the block a few times and believe me “the song remains the same” or as stated so eloquently in Ecclesiastes: “There is nothing new under the sun”!
Catch, as a fellow Virginian, I share many of your sentiments. I guess the biggest stumbling block is that—except for the fact that Morgan is missing, without her phone, purse, or ID—there isn’t evidence of a crime. I mean, we are all at least 99.9% sure there was a crime (I guess we have to say there is a slim chance she ran off on her own volition), but it makes me worry that LE will decide, eh, she’s an adult; mebbe she left. It’s hard to muster up confidence in LE, but I always hope that behind the scenes they are doing the best job possible. But I worry…
And I sincerely wish that if they were really stuck, they’d cough up some more info for us.
re: momof3 #2177 We know their tickets were scanned but we don’t know who attended or for how long.
Do we for a fact know tickets were scanned? I haven’t read or heard that has been verified anywhere.
WPG & Blink-
My family is getting a little frustrated because every time I walk in the door I go straight to my computer with the hope that Morgan has been found (one way or the other) I read every post.
I really don’t know why I feel such empathy to this case; maybe because I am such a concert freak or just that I’m a MOM.
But as I sit here having my morning coffee before I head out for the day. I must go upstairs and redo my makeup because you two brought me to tears.
Well,with this new development of reaching out to the psychics(no judgment at all here),I’m going to email VSP with my concerns about this case.FWIW,R
Sorry dude – I suck at armchair sleuthing.
Trying to help find Morgan, but just getting confused
I’ll go back to lurking again
May all beings have peace.
Its ok to suck at it, your supporting her, that’s all that matters.
B
Blink
I read in post #2188 that Sarah Snead’s father may be VSP, is that accurate?
Possible relative, there are a few friends with close ties to LE.
B
Regarding psychics… true psychics….Noreen Renier is right there in Virginia. She is an amazingly gifted lady.
Blink I’m curious about Morgan’s facebook page. Is there a lot of activity on it since her disappearance like friends leaving messages of hope or anything? Also without giving away details, were you able to gain any more insight into her personality and habits and any other circle of friends besides the nine?
Honestly, based on our case load, I’m not sure we can get through it before the Holiday.
B
It has been mentioned that there was a lot of security in the parking lot that night. It seems that we would not need sightings of her from strangers, but that there would be numerous sightings from security of her. Also, if security is who put her out of the venue, wouldn’t they come forward and say so rather than us having to speculate? In this day of lawsuits, it seems that such a large arena would not just randomly eject a young girl out into a parking lot on her own and leave her to fend for herself, no matter what she did. If she did something worth getting ejected for, it seems they would have somewhere to hold her while they assessed her situation, determined if she had a ride, was too intoxicated to be on her own and perhaps needed medical attention, etc. I’m sure most venues know that if they eject a person such as MH who is alone and has been drinking/on drugs or who is injured and that person goes into medical distress or comes up missing, they could be in for a large lawsuit. It seems very unlikely to me they would have just grabbed her and thrown her out. Has anyone looked into their policies? I looked at their website and it does say they have the right to eject persons, but does not say the procedure followed.
i wonder if her computer hard drive has been examined for deleted info(if she had a secret boyfriend)i would hand it over and ask it to be examined.in the burglar bling bunch case the computer was examined by le and said to be scrubbed and given back to the owner .the owner took it to a computer expert on his own and then the cache of deleted info was found.supposedly le didnt find it ,according to article on tmz.http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/23/burglar-bunch-google-map-targets-orlando-bloom-nick-prugo-burglars-watches.btw did you see that it is being said that harvey levine wants to branch out a team up with a nancy grace type.for good or bad this is his forte ,getting insider info out,imo,what we need.
re:2201
Catch,
Very well said!
blink ,if that’s true, i wish he(hlevine)would team up blinkoncrime.
Blink, is it a good idea if everyone starts calling all these involved police stations? Force them to work hard on the case and maybe give some answers? Are people calling them?
I don’t like MH not driving her own car and not having her keys returned to her after they parked.
No, I think it would distract them from doing their jobs. I do think they need to get the lead rolling machine back in gear, not to be glib. I have concerns.
B
Sadie, you make some good points.
If MH was wearing a wristband and was over-served, and then ejected, there might be a skosh bit of room for lawsuit. The key is testimony to “over-served.” She wasn’t a young girl, she was an adult. If she was vomiting, unconscious, or bleeding profusely, and the arena acted poorly, well, they might be cited, but it wouldn’t go to huge lawsuit, in my opinion. The Good Samaritan expectations have been tried in many a court of law. In this case, as much as we know about it, JPJ would not be held liable.
I don’t blame the dad, either, if he wants to ping psychics or any other random thing that he thinks could help (I would totally exhaust every avenue myself, no matter what anyone else thought). I just found it distressing because it sounds like he feels like there is no progress being made along the more traditional routes.
Since I’m feeling a little 11 o’clockish, Stilton, would be indeed fine, Blink. Can Observer bring over those marcona almonds, too? (Oh! This might be kind of blonde, but I did go to Stilton once and I was very, very disappointed not to get any cheese. They’ve never made it there and, by law, cannot make it there! Only in three nearby counties.)
Okay, back on the wheel. Scootch over, please.
Word Girl
MH is under-age, so it would be illegal to award her a yellow band or to be served alcohol by anyone under the umbrella of JPJ Arena (who in turn, I believe, is under the bigger umbrella of UVA).
I think Security ain’t talkin’ just like the friends ain’t talkin,, just like the parents ain’t talkin’, just like LE ain’t talkin’, and all for the same reason. But what that reason is, I have no earthly idea. I think LE said not to.
She’d have to be 21 to be served, much less overserved, and I find venues that expect college age kids can be pretty zealous about not only checking, but limiting how many you can buy.
Now, they could be worried about a lawsuit if they not only tossed her from the arena, but refused her safe harbor if she were scared, but we dunno if that’s what happened…
Meant to add: at any rate, she was too young for a wristband, wasn’t she just 20?
I do not post much unless something keeps nagging at my tired brain. However I read every post every day, which has my teenage daughter raising her eyebrows at me, and my husband wondering when I am coming to bed !! i know there are armies of missing people, and now I add them to my prayers. Morgans’ case really brought this disturbing trend to my attention, front and center. Now that my eyes are open to it I am becoming motivated to address the problem, make some personal efforts to help bring awareness for missing people and figure out how to help in the future.
That said I feel somehow duty bound to stick with Morgan until she is found, to stay tuned to her parents Dan and Gil, who I do not know , but who have bravely and generously shown up for their beautiful spirited and loving daughter and included us, a concerned and mortified public in their unimaginable loss.
The courage and grace they have exhibited and shared with us, as they navigate their way through this nightmare, has touched my heart, earned my respect, and some kind of loyalty to them as a family and given me even more reason to love Morgan, who from the moment I laid eyes on her captivated me. She comes across as a free spirit with a big smile, beautiful and kind with her whole life before her.
This is too sad and difficult to accept on so many levels.
Please someone, anyone who has ANY information on Morgan and her whereabouts, do the right thing, have some compassion, some courage and come forward to help bring her home.
Christmas is coming it will not be the same for any of us who has been touched by this extraordinary young woman and her incredible family. EVERYONE who is helping, praying, those who are brainstorming here on this site, THANKYOU and keep it up. I know evil and violence exists and I have to believe in the collective mind , the power of good.
THANKYOU to Blink, for her fierce vigilance for all victims, her wit, energy, brains and a shared love of all kinds of foreign cheese!! I must say Blink you and Mr Blink and the Blinkettes most certainly deserve a holiday this christmas, but I am already bracing myself for withdrawals when I open my computer and the forum, the thread is temporarily ( I hope) not available. Maybe Blink,some words for us, this unlikely internet “posse” of friends as to how this “collective think tank” will proceed over the holidays and into 2010.
Meanwhile back to hoping and praying, and giving thanks for snuggling my beautiful daughter goodnight, and sitting on the couch together gazing at the twinkling lights of in her words “the finest christmas tree we have ever had.”
Gil Harrington with her depth and insight and generous heart, that is reaching so many people right now, could help a lot more people in the future if she chose to, and was ever ready for it, by writing a book chronicling these “never to be wished on anyone days.”
Someone compared Morgan to a butterfly, beautiful and fragile, and yes to me she has that quality.
Let us keep her in out hearts, minds and prayers and stay close together to help bring some peace , some resolution, some hope for Morgan and her family and for the whole world this Christmas. AMEN.
I am not sure whether this was asked or answered before and if it was I must have missed it…Was there any sign of injury on D.S. to her face or more specifically, to her chin, during her news interview? Another question, why was D.S. supposedly escorted out of the venue? What was her reason?
J2K- As I was reading the article the statement Helm made at the vigil jumped out at me. Morgan was so excited to see friends she had not seen in awhile. With that being said one of the friends is a roommate whom she would see virtually everyday, every other day…frequent. It is known she and Sarah are close. I have passed the male off as an acquaintance for the simple reason he is her friends BF. The scenario with Sarah and Sarah’s BF being where there is one you will find the other. So my take, she was speaking of more than the two at JMU.The statement gave me the idea Morgan’s or possibly all the friends were planning on seeing people they had not seen in awhile.
Possibly only to spend time together at the concert.
In the perspective she was speaking of Sarah and her boyfriend. I would find it unusual for her to be excited about seeing him. (Unless of course they were friends in High School or for some period of time)
Also, the word confirmed being used. Never meant to put that as if it were a fact. I meant it as a supporting argument as to whether or not she had plans to meet anyone other than those who traveled with her to get there.
I just checked with my 19 year old concert going party girl, home from college (OYE I may feel ancient some days, but I have several kids in this age group, then add to that my nieces and nephews, and all the friends that come with), and she says that JPJ is serious about checking for REAL IDs…can’t get a wristband unless your driver’s license says 21. There are a few grocery stores and convenience stores where you can slip by with a fake ID, but they are pretty tight here in Charlottesville. So it’s doubtful Morgan was buying her own beer, though someone could have gotten one for her? This is why all the underage kids have to drink beforehand. Duh. I remember being in the same situation…
Then I asked her about what happens at the UVa football games…if you’re not sick and puking, have someone to help, and can walk, they’ll send you out of the stadium. But if you’re in bad shape they’ll take you to “the room”…a make-shift ER for drunks. This is what I also remember…I’ve heard more about the kids who were taken care of than ones who were sent out on their own. Drunks who are beligerent go with the police.
#2210
Ross in regards to my post #2177. You wrote:Do we for a fact know tickets were scanned? I haven’t read or heard that has been verified anywhere.
I remember Blink commenting that the tickets were scanned but wasn’t sure as to whether or not they were scanned consecutively and at what time. I will go back and see if I can locate this comment. Unless Blink can weigh in on whether or not this was early misinformation or not. Blink?
I’d like to add, for my kid’s benefit, that they are much more serious about life than we were at that age. We’re so far just crossing our fingers…none have broken out and gone wild yet.
Blink,
Why do you think the LE did not inform Dr. Harrington that Morgan’s car was driven to Charlottesville and parked at the arena?
I don’t know that LE felt they needed to, we would need to know where the disjoint happened.
B
Blink said “Excellent Observation, it has bothered me why no description of the friends outfits, which would help solidify or disprove her possible image on tape, certainly. B ”
For awhile I’ve felt like the friends needed to confirm what Morgan wore to the concert. We have only heard a description of her outfit from her mother. She could have very well changed her mind or taken off her tights last minute. I really wish the friends were talking more. At minimum to confirm her outfit and some of the other outstanding questions.
Also, no one in the witness accounts has mentioned the necklace, which I think would stand out. Can’t the friends confirm if she wore it. Can the bball players confirm what they saw her wearing, how she was acting, etc. Hopefully LE already has, but the media or someone needs to question Dee S. on her whereabouts on 10/17. We need confirmation of which sightings were actually her.
This case is so frusturating. After nearly 2 months, it feels like it is stalling. Similar to the Tracy Ocasio case, we followed it closely for the first few months and now hear nothing about it. The only media coverage is on Hataways court appearances. Why doesnt someone step up and start questioning the Huttos. These cannot become cold cases. These missing girls should be home for the holidays.
I read this thread at least daily and, every day I log on my first priority is to check local news to see if they are any closer to finding Morgan.
The last police statement is very disheartening. We need to think out of the box to get new leads/sightings/videos/ info. It seems to me that once the original story broke there hasn’t been a whole lot of coverage.
The brainpower of this forum is awesome but there just isn’t enough info to go by.
Charlottesville has free publications with a large circulation, maybe Harrisonburg, Roanoke and Richmond have something similar. I’m sure a lot of these local magazines would not charge for ads of a missing person but I also think there would be a better response if the ads were asking specifically for video of the arena prior to the concert/ during the opening acts and any video of the outside of the arena at any time. A lot of people don’t watch the local news or may not realize they have something on video or even know what to look for.
Stating that she’s still missing will motivate all those concert goers that may have told themselves at the time “oh I didn’t see anything” to look at their videos/photos one more time or to turn them in so LE can look at them. I’m actually surprised LE hasn’t done that yet. We’ve been going by the assumption that they have something by now and they are not telling, but it looks like they have nothing so far.
I cannot imagine the grief of her parents. Her mom’s blogs bring me to tears every time. I don’t blame her dad for thinking about turning to psychics, if I was in his shoes I would try anything. Maybe with her parents’ permission we can come up with a new ad we can post everywhere?
BTW I’m not just the 100,000th visitor,I won!!
C.
Re: 2221 Alex:
Agree with Blink—it is a distraction to LE—-have found that calling and emailing the reporters who cover crime in the local papers can be effective–especially if you give them some good reason to dig. You would think that these people monitor these sites for nuggets, but they don’t as much as they should. Press ( especially the type that questions why certain venues have not been explored) usually gets attention.
I think the single fact that a young girl vanished deserves constant media attention–especially in a college town.
on another note: does anyone KNOW if dogs did hit on MH’s scent near JPJ? Has it been confirmed?
If her house keys were on the same chain as her car keys, like mine are, then you wonder why she told her friends she would get a ride when her own car was parked on the lot. Like holding on tight to your purse, I hold on tight to my keys. ahhhhh
sherri, the only place I read about the dogs was in this article:
“The Harringtons have come to a bridge in Charlottesville because it is the last place Morgan was seen before her disappearance. They say to be in this place to breath the air Morgan breathed allows them to be close to her in some way.
“I know dogs smelling on this bridge can smell her so there is something of her here. There is nothing of her in our home,” shared Gil Harrington.
http://www.news8.net/news/stories/1109/682058.html
alex, that is exactly what is so frustrating. We have to guess at every little thing, when an article could easily say “morgan was locked outside of the arena without her car keys or her house/apt keys” or conversely, “locked out without car keys but she did have her house keys” or whatever the case may be. Maybe people think we wouldn’t be interested in these details, or that they are not important, but man, it just makes me so frustrated. I am trying to think how LE could construe that little tidbit as so vital to the investigation that they have to keep it super top secret. I mean, surely not EVERY little tidbit that they are not sharing is vital. Not sure why they need to be so tight lipped.
from belleboyd:
“I am not sure whether this was asked or answered before and if it was I must have missed it…Was there any sign of injury on D.S. to her face or more specifically, to her chin, during her news interview? Another question, why was D.S. supposedly escorted out of the venue? What was her reason?”
belleboyd,
Those are really good questions – - great questions, actually.
I did not know there was a video of DS’s interview, and would like to watch it. Do you know where you saw it?
And to your 2nd question, I completely missed that DS was escorted out.
Do you know around what time that occured?
Thank you, belleboyd.
Wow. You and me both WPG
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(Blink fills saucer)
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That kind of confusion around DS is exactly why I said if they can’t or won’t cough up any details about Morgan and the friends that day/night, can Dee tell us all of her movements at the show so we can figure out which if any of the alleged sightings in the parking lot and venue were actually dee?
I *think* the Dee-got-thrown-out rumor had to do with footage of her on the floor with her friends, where some people think she is surrounded by security and being ushered out. Most often I’ve read that she was there for the whole show, emerging with some post-Metallica balloon or something. It’s another frustrating source of confusion when there is no need for confusion.
I agree, Suz #2243. When the Dee videos were shown on TV, (I can’t remember which show! Not Nancy Grace, but the other lady.) the newsanchor reported that it looked like she was being “aggressively escorted” out of the arena. However, it was just Dee walking out with the males that she was with. Dee’s postings on the MDH facebook account stating it was her in the video also stated that she was was in the arena for the Metallica show. The newsanchor also said that the video was shot after Metallica left the stage. So I am assuming she was there for the Metallica show. (The link to this video clip is somewhere up above). I don’t know when she entered, what she did on the way there, or what she did on her way out.
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You said everything I am feeling also, I couldn’t have said it better. I felt like you were writing my thoughts exactly! Amen
Suz and mouse, just wanted to get back atcha about the under-age band and service. I was only responding to Sadie about that. I know Morgan didn’t have a band and I know how careful they are about checking. I’ve got a 20 yr old, too. (Still she did have a drink in her hand when she fell. Someone could have bought it for there, though, as has been surmised here often.)
About that fall. I couldn’t find the word before, but I imagine it wasn’t a flat out fall, but more of a “crumple” when you lose your balance or miss the last step. Probably sloshed out most of the drink onto concert-goers, but didn’t lose the cup!
About Dee being escorted out: she looked pretty casual at the end of the concert when they were carrying the big balloon and not in any hurry. Skyler said it took those on the floor at least 15 minutes longer to get out of the arena due to letting out the top floors first. I don’t think she got evicted, but if there is video or interview, I’d love to know.
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Is Morgan’s Dad saying LE did NOT go through her car?
Today, 02:31 PM
JH28 JH28 is offline
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“I would assume the VSP has been through the car to find anything of use.”
Today, 04:00 PM
Morgan’s Dad Morgan’s Dad is online now
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“JH 28 mis correct”
http://www.findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1361&page=3
WPG I did not understand that either, I hope he clarifies.
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Blink, please do not post this question. I assume you read the http://www.findmorgan.com forums. If you do not, never mind. If you do, do you, based on writing style (grammar/non use of caps/etc) believe the person posting as “Morgans Dad” is really Dr. Harrington?