Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: A Gruesome Anniversary Plays Out in Court
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Orlando, FL– On the eve of the one year anniversary of the recovery of 34 month old Caylee Marie Anthonys remains; the defense team representing the woman charged with her murder is preparing for one of the most difficult court appearances to date.
Tomorrow, one year ago, Caylee was found while her grandparents and Team Casey dined on crab puffs and lounged pool side at the Ritz.
Among the Ritz Carlton guests, courtesy of ABC, was the Anthony Family Private Investigator, Dominic Casey.
Mr. Casey is attempting to don the “Privilege Parka” and avoid an upcoming deposition scheduled for December 16 and of course subsequent testimony at trial. The State has issued subpoenas to both George and Cindy Anthony for tomorrow’s hearing. They are looking to sit in front of the bar.
Might be advisable given the circumstances. I suggest a single malt of humility with a dignity chaser.
By his own account, George Anthony has not seen or spoken to Dominic Casey since February 10, 2009.
It is not known if perhaps Baez never took the time to explain to Mr. Casey the definition of “privilege”.
It is not that
he would get the “privilege” of schtupping his Clients wife while their baby granddaughter was missing and later found murdered in the area his Client*slash*PillowPal sent him to search a month earlier.
O yeah, I went there.
If he is stupid enough through his attorney Diana Tennis to continue the privilege party line I predict Ms. Drane Burdick will be well prepared to demonstrate her skills in verbal guillotine simply by using Dom’s own words. I am not a huge Dr. Phil fan I admit, but there is a quote from him I feel resonates for Cindy Anthony specifically:
If he will do it with ya, he will do it to ya. 100%
Cindy, when you read this, you know I come from a place of knowledge and there are some doors even you do not want opened.
Mountainous Motionous Interruptus
To Deluge is to Delude? That is the Question.
It is unclear if Ms. Lyon and the Baez jesters get paid by the word in their motions, or if they own stock in the local optometrist.
What is clear, is they have an endless supply of ink for the laser jet.
Could that be because they have not put out the benjamens for the bevy of experts we were expecting from the hearing about who is funding this shindig?
Even the dubious Dr. Lee is on record saying he does not get out of bed until the next check. *snark alert*
How do you ask for a year to prepare for a trial and not list a single expert as a witness, or lob a smidge of discovery back over the net?
Is February 1st the BIG BAEZ REVEAL? ( Insert laugh track)
Yesterday, Prosecutor Linda Drane Burdick returned fire, exposing what appears to be some seriously shoddy defense tactics to open up the files of the almost 4000 Texas Equusearch Volunteers in response to the mountains of motions filed by the defense the day before Thanksgiving.
..”Appreciate the Reciprocate not the Procrastinate or you Violate..”
Blink
Got it straight?
(editors note: see how easy that is, A to the L? One line and will free you up for those lovely, no advance blush necessary speaking engagements.)
“Dialing for Disgruntled”
It is not surprising or original to learn that Andrea Lyon and Jose Baez et al have spent weeks calling through TES search rosters to find anyone that would talk to them voluntarily. Many have. Baez and team apparently thought they hit pay-dirt with Joe Jordan and Laura Buchanan.
Joe Jordan was a volunteer on the first search in Orlando for Caylee Anthony. He also broke his agreement with TES by posting Youtube videos of the search and blogging about locations and findings. It was a serious no no and when he was outed, he began his campaign to speak negatively about Tim Miller and TES.
In the defense’s motion to modify access to TES records, Mr. Jordan claims to have kept very detailed records of his search efforts, when his team of 5–6 members were searching the alleged “exact area” where Caylee was ultimately found. For me, when someone uses the word detailed, I make the assumption that entails having more than one name of the other 5 people:
..”Among the five people with me were Danny Ibison and his dog, and a Panama City Deputy with one of his two dogs…”
Within the search form Jordan alleges he provided to TES, it would REQUIRE the names and ID’s of the individuals searching that area.
Could it be that Ibison and the others would not support Jordan’s statement because the area, exact area, where Caylee’s remains were found, was underwater on September 1st?
Speaking on the condition of anonymity exclusively to blinkoncrime.com, a source within OCSO confirms just that. Ibison maintains the site was underwater, the as- yet-unamed- publicly “deputy” will confirm there were meetings within TES to come up with a solution to use some sort of aquatic equipment to search the submerged area, but it was considered too dangerous and too small for a boat.
What motive would Mr. Jordan have to (un-surreptitiously to him) record his interview with Morty?
JJ records the audio for a spell and then gets around to calling Det. Edwards at OCSO to ostensibly get a high five.
That high five was nearly a low five behind his back from the state for a 3rd degree wiretapping felony.
Wait for it….. AND he is “materially” changing his story after apparently being schooled about what happens when you are prepared to lie in court, regardless of your agenda.
There is no “I” in perjury. Look out Baez, someone is out of there FUGUE state in time for tomorrow.
If I were a betting gal, I would say that Lyon will not lead with asking Ms. Drane Burdick where she picked out her suit or what she has in her nightstand drawer.
However, I do believe that an excerpt or 3 from Andea Lyon’s stand up impersonation of Lisa Lampanelli may end up on the record.
All that aside, I am humbled by tomorrow’s anniversary I thought I would never see. I will never forget the call in which both joy and anguish filled my throat. “We got her, it’s her.”
To the FBI, FDLE, FBI CSI, OCSO CSI, SS and OCSO, 9th Circuit Medical Examiners Office, Dr. G and SH– You know who you are– From the bottom of my heart I thank you for the commitment you showed this child.
You are her sweet voice now, backed by your collective baritone.
I am hopeful for an anti-crescendo or dimiuendo, directed to the finale.
If that does not work, then we scrap. End is the Same. Justifies the Means.
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I am going to say that maybe….just maybe Casey might be feeling the pressure of what is Really going on. Also of what she did. I truly want to believe her tears weren’t an act today- I want to believe she is finally grieving the death of her daughter and she finally regrets what she has done. Maybe it is all wishful thinking, but I am an optimist. I do have to give Kathi a jump serve(volley ball style) high five for her kill – she rattled Camp Casey. They were all dazed and confused by the time she finished with them…..total entertainment. I realize my thoughts will be quite unpopular and I appreciate all of the brilliant minds on this site, but before you school me with your expertise just remember- I am wishing for the best but I realize what is true!
IMO, Body Language spoke volumes today in court. Many will disagree with me here I know but to me when KC first had to listen to Jeff.. she got mad. I do not think chloroform was ever used, why else would she be so ready to be defended and make him stop. However, once the tape came into play.. face hidden behind her hands. I think she WAS coached to cry but not to hide behind her hand and hair… it was more of being called out to the hard cold truth of her crime.
I can’t help but mention this. Lyons looked like she was literally going to EAT Kathy Belich by the elevators.. I would have run myself.
Also funny was JW almost trampled by Belich. How does that woman get from one set of cameras to the next so fast? Dying to be interviewed but almost trampled down instead. You can’t make this stuff up, it’s insane.
We agree 100%. That was also my exact thought. The face was at the chloroform. The one thing that was true about her face was she was mad because it was not used.
Question: I saw a girl crumbling at the weight of her actions. Did anyone else feel that a Mother whose child was murdered would hide behind her hair and her hand and sob/appear to sob?
If I did not do it, I would be fraught with indignity and probably unable to contain it in that proceeding. If this goes to trial and one by one the friends she duped for years parade past her all day long for weeks, then we will see indignity. That they are living their lives and this little issue of a dead child is keeping her from hers.
B
i forgot or just didn’t realize there was 4 pieces of duct tape at the crime scene and one was not found on caylee’s skull could have been used to tie her hands
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=999
wow that would be pretty hanious if you ask me what else would it have been used for?
I Thoth too that it was a rerun of Baez on with Jane! He never answers questions just beats around the bush! Why have him on! It was almost verbatim! Jane in my opinion humors him like a colleague pretty much like geraldo does. Why bother having on the show ! It serves no purpose! No throw anything @ me for my next comment! But could it be she’s biased bcus they are all Hispanic!
Ducking!!
Hey I’m Hispanic and dislike them all! Bcus of the arrogance!
Was so proud of Kathi b today!
Lol on filipia her remarks kill me lol
as for caseys tears! I think she was cued! Coached by Baez & Lyons! She didn’t seem fer reals! It’s been quite a long day for all!
I think the prosecution did a great job!! It reassured me that they have a strong case! Sometimes my faith wavers
I think casey and her parents got a big dose of reality!!
Along with her defense!
Oh, I forgot…..um….and…..um….and….Andrea Lyons is most likely a great attorney,but I think she is going to put a jury to sleep with her lack of great speaking skills!
For the record, I get past the appearance issues and although I do not share most of her views, I find her to be an exceptionally capable attorney, For Law School. She is committed to her belief system to the point where she was ok with a man going to prison for 26 years for a crime a client of her office committed. That is wrong to me.
She is just not engaging for me and I go out of my way to try to be objective when I listen to her. When your attorney comes across as caring more about the weight of evidence than your innocense in the murder of a baby, you have got problems. I know that our system puts the burden on the prosecution. The reality is, we are human. The scale of justice is not like a postage meter.
Any female professionals that heard her speech that I spoke to were appauled at the way she referenced other women in her profession. I don’t care about context.
As a woman, who has had almost exclusively worked with and for male professionals and we all know what comes with that, I wanted to cuff her on that issue.
I do not think she makes it to the fraud trial, as I said earlier. Casey will plead that one out.
B
Blink…mea culpa! You were correct. JB on JNM, a rerun. She asked one of her other guests tonight about Ashton and how Casey felt during his address. Time for me to take a break! Obviously,losing it.
Like the song goes, “You can run, but you can’t hide” The new Anthony melody from Genesis? Night all. Great reading here! Loved the Ashton argument. Put everybody in a new state of mind, especially KC. LOL Love it here. Caylee was there and heard it all!
Never mind- I just watched the video of today’s hearing. It was all wishful thinking, there is always next time. Good night Blinksters!
Thank you Blink for everything that you do. I find out so much information from you and everyone that contributes to your site! It feels like we had a little taste of what the trial will be like and I’m ready for justice. I was thinking about how much time my brain spends on this case and I was wondering how I am going to feel when this case is finally over. Will the images of beautiful Caylee ever not bring me to tears? Will I feel the sadness go away? Is it enough when Casey is sentenced to prison forever? Will there ever be justice for Caylee?
Just read a great aticle about the duct tape!! hope you all check it out!
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=999
There appears to be some who don’t realize there were four pieces of Henkel brand duct tape found at the crime scene. Because of this, there are questions about why Prosecutor Ashton brought up the possibility of Caylee being restrained physically (versus chemically). The four pieces of duct tape are: Q62-Q64 – found on the skull, and Q104 – found separately and more toward where Caylee’s shirt remnants and portions of her little bones had been scattered. It had been chewed up by animals. This is the piece of duct tape that could have been used as a restraint on Caylee’s wrists or forearms.
Thank you ss, we have covered that extensively here as well. I agree. There is also a strip out there I believe has print evidence.
B
Blink, after getting a taste of the SA case yesterday, do you think NOW that there may be a plea, I can’t imagine the Defense wanting to take this case any further, yesterday was just a small sample of what is to come and I cannot for the life of me understand why the Defense would want anything else to come out. the statements yesterday by the State were so upsetting, how can the Defense think that they can argue everything away…your thoughts…
I have always and continue to believe there will be a plea and no trial. Yesterday’s events only solidified my opinion. Jose Baez was and is completely over his head.
B
if the defense is so determined to save Casey’s life then wouldn’t a plea be the best oppertunity?
#308 Thanks for the info about the duct tape. I thought the numbers would be sequential. I hope to God that Caylee was not restrained with the fourth piece.
I also wanted to comment on the Anthonys dramatic departure from the courtroom. Mr. Ashton did not reveal anything that they hadn’t heard before. Their departure was just grandstanding. They could have sat there and listened but they wanted the world to know how they felt. It was not about Caylee and it was not about Casey. It was all about them and their feelings.
Blink I feel the exact same way, I think it is in Casey’s best interest to plea, that is the only way Ms. Lyon is going to save her life..IMO
Did anyone catch the wftv.com video of Andrea Lyons elbowing Kathy Belich as she followed the defense team to the elevators after court?
It was priceless -Belich is something else – she asked Lyons if she
thought herself a “genius”. I have to save that video to play over
again during the trial – Lyons couldnt open her mouth. Also interesting info that came out that I never heard was that the defense didnt put Kronks ex-wife under oath and one of them might have given false statements!
It was also very interesting to see the Queen of the Jungle Ms. Lyon silenced by Kathi B. For someone who has so much to say in such an extreme manner it was great to see her shut down, she must be ashamed, I wonder if she thinks she is as cute and funny as she thought she was…
You know, after my angry artery burst on the prior thread (joke), I still feel that the strategy of attempting to fight the death penalty first is risky and is based on the desire for Lyon to have a national platform on the issue vs. being the best advocate for her client.
From what has been released to date, it is true that the manner of death is not necessarily proven, but it dilutes the other theories of defense in the guilt phase.
If you believe that Roy Kronk had a predilection for tying or wrapping people up with duct tape, but you’re already arguing that use or placement of the duct tape is questionable, then you have argued out his possible connection in the guilt phase.
I know I said this up thread, but I just can’t get over this. It was so much more about grandstanding than caring about Casey, in my opinion. However, maybe Lyon is willing to sacrifice Casey in order for the “greater good” of all clients in her pursuit of the abolishment of the death penalty. And we know of an instance where she was fine with sacrificing an individual before to advance her agenda.
Let’s face it, percentage-wise, not many young white pretty young women are sentenced to death. I don’t believe Casey will be sentenced to death. Since Strickland can’t change the law, he will likely not take the death penalty off of the table. But let’s say he would. If we accept as fact that death qualified jurors are more apt to convict( for the purpose of discussion), it still doesn’t guarantee acquittal with a less conservative group. Considering myself as liberal, I would never want to be seated on a jury to impose the death penalty. I wouldn’t be able to convict for fear of a mistake, it is too permanent. Although consideration of any punishment in prison is a heavy decision, I would be more inclined to convict (with evidence released so far; which I know is incomplete) if there wasn’t the potential for death. So with that in mind, I’m not sure that the end justifies the means. I guess that remains to be seen. Arguing evidence at this juncture, just sounds like she’s already been found guilty.
I’m not a lawyer, but watching this, as a potential juror would, I say wow-her own attorneys know she is guilty.
I completely agree with you and glad your artery is better. No thrombosis please, your too valuable a contributor here
On the surface, will she get death? I think there is potential to overcome it, but the images of Caylee’s remains, and I suspect a trip to her grave for a few months will infuriate jurors.
Couple that with the images of shopping jaunts at Target which WILL allow her convictions on the fraud charges to come into evidence, and they are stuck with the omnipresent:
“Why if your daughter was missing for 31 days did you tell no person whatsoever, and did so only when Police were on the way to your house?”
“Why, once it was known, did you intentionally lie to and deceive LE, thwarting their efforts to locate your daughter, and do absolutely nothing to help them locate her, or attempt to locate her yourself.”
answer: I did. I hired a Private Investigator, Dominic Casey. He told me he believed Caylee was indeed alive, tons of psychics told him so.
No getting around the truth.
B
It has got to be maddening to be held in protective custody. It’s like solitary confinement. For a person like Casey who was constantly communicating with people in one form or another, this has to be especially difficult. Add to that, she NEVER has visitors, and whew. Someone very socially inclined like her would probably fair better in general population.
Now, if you read or listen to any attorneys takes on the strategy, they are saying that the defense will drag this trial out for as long as they can, even if for years.
Do you think that Casey is fully aware that she will be subject to this lonely existence for the purpose of delaying court?
In my opinion after hearing Lyons speak, if she is this way before a jury, she will lose them all fast. Long windedness in my opinion
just causes the jury to start daydreaming and lose focus. Juries arent
lawyers they get a rudimentary idea of the point but in the long run
they go by the hard compelling facts, not the overly scientific
evidence. Coffin flies might help but witnesses saying that they smelled decomposition matters more – water tables for the area might help – but not reporting your child and partying will matter more.
I agree with Blink – Baez is in over his head and Lyons is full of hot air and is full of it about herself.
On #316, I hear all of your points. However, there will be mental/emotional & family pathos/dysfunction mitigating factors that we have have not heard, which, based on some of the actions we’ve seen, may indeed be present and valid. I don’t believe Casey to be legally insane, but something is seriously WRONG psychologically. The family dynamic is seriously “off”. I’ll leave it at that.
Very True, but I don’t think Casey will be testifying, er go, alot of what you are referring to, imo, does not come in. They will “go there” to a degree, but not to the rapture they will need unless Casey herself takes the stand, and even Baez is not dumb enough to chance that.
B
It was so nice to see/hear Mr. Ashton give it his all. There’s been so much pussyfootin’ around for the past year and a half, it’s time now to bring out the big guns and be the tough prosecutors we know they are. I loved it. I’m also hoping that things change with regard to George and Cindy. Everyone has bent over backward for them and their feelings. Not really sure why. This is NOT their murder trial. I’ve never been as involved in a case as I’ve become in this one. But I don’t ever remember a judge or media or anyone else being so nice to the parents of the accused. It’s got to stop being about George and Cindy and their feelings. This case is about the murder of a little girl, and we know they didn’t do it.
Just a side thought, I’m sure someone has mentioned it before, but at one point in an interview, Linda Baden mentions, unsolicited, that (paraphrase) people confess to things all the time. So with that being said, will one of the jail video tapes yield this confession? Or perhaps an admission was uttered by Casey to one of the people whose testimony we haven’t seen yet? I thought it an odd statement.
#319_Maybe a last minute psychological defense expert will take the stand to provide analysis. Family members (other than Cindy and George) might add a troubled history to the mix for that purpose. Rick & Shirley Peasa may help there. No matter how angry they may or might have been, I doubt that they want to see a family member sentenced to death.
Good Point
B
As the judge said yesterday about the fruad trial he will have jurors ready next week to start picking a jury. But that he thinks whatever they talked about in chambers (a plea deal with time of course and a felony) will end the fruad trial. He does not want his time wasted on this fruad trial anymore. I am sure he told baez the videos will come in and sink your client and I will have to sentence her to 45 years. What’s your choice baez 5-8 years or 45 years. DUH! A good lawyer would have already pleed this case. I agree with Blink baez is in way over his head. As far as the murder trial KC will never plea that. She was crying yesterday because she finaly gets it …..THE JIG IS UP! She was only crying for herself and could not believe the state figured out how she did it. I also read this morning the state filed a motion yesterday that they want Kronl’s ex-wif-ves info, They are going to depo them. Bet Baez gets his azz handed to him by these people. They are not going to commmit perjury to save KC. Baez wasted that money on them for naught and knows it now that the state wants to depo them. And oe more thing, the state called it right on TES searchers. Baez ans team have called everyone and none of them have wanted to talk to him. Poor baez and lyins. I perdict after windbag and 8 weeks of a drawn out trial that the jury will come back in record time with a guilty and DP verdict. A sequested jury wants to go home. And the photos of Caylee’s remains and the trip to the garage to smell the car will sink the ship for good. Great job as always BLINK. Justice for Caylee.
I did not hear the judge say they discussed the fraud trial in chambers. Did I miss that?
That said, I do believe they did, and I do believe it will end in a plea for the exact reason you are saying.
Repeat after me: “Conciousness of Guilt”. Those videos will come into evidence during the murder trial without question, and then the prior bad acts are on the table. They will negotiate them out potentially, or get stuck taking their chances on the inflammatory vs. probative argument.
B
Cindy’s alleged therapist could come in, if asked, I suppose, as well.
Depending on whether his/her responses would be able to paint a troubled picture that would be favorable for Casey’s plight.
Question, if Silver shows up: Does the defense have to give lists of witnesses, now, for use in the penalty phase? I would guess not.
Nope, HIPA. I believe DCF was not even permitted to talk to her.
I think your right the extended family will paint a fair picture though.
B
Dearest Blink, you make Zeus proud.
#302 – Agree with Sheri and Blink’s comments. In her body language, I read indignation at the chloroform suggestion and then
I saw a woman cringing from the truth, hiding behind her hair and hands as she heard them get it right about the duct tape and the person little Caylee last saw as she tragically died. No more sunshine blowing up her skirt, the mirror is out and its reflection is ugly. (CA: “Make him stop”…JB: ”I can’t” – loved that open mic).
I don’t think she will withstand the pressure of, as you say Blink, having the truth paraded in front of her eyes in a courtroom where she can’t weave and spin the way she always has. No, an innocent mother would not hide behind her hair.
As for AL, I really have wanted to be impressed by her but so far I just can’t get there. Although I respect her knowledge and passion, I think she will put a jury to sleep and the “kill my client” expression will have become so ubiquitous that it has no kick. I noticed JB has now also adopted that mantra. The problem is, it’s like a joke – once the punchline is out of the bag, it’s not so funny anymore. Indeed.
Ms Chitown Judy, I know what you mean I was going to make the exact same point, why do they matter and justice for their granddaughter does not?
HIPAA privacy laws allow for disclosure of private health information if the patient signs a release and agrees that their health information can be disclosed to certain entities, parties – or in this case a court proceeding. Cindy could allow her therapist to testify to her mental health evaluations – as well as any discussions they had during their sessions.
I can see Cindy allowing Baez to depose her therapist if it benefits Casey. However, I would think it would be a HUGE risk upon cross examination.
Your right, and so is WSH in that event, I forgot that angle. Good Point.
B
Blink no the Judge did not say they talked about the fruad trial however at the end of the hearing he did say I suspect I will be hearing from you as we talked about (I assume in chambers) before the jury is here next week to start picking.
It looked to me that Casey was getting a tiny bit aggravated when the DA was speaking, but maybe it was because she knows it didn’t ‘exactly’ happen that way. I think she wanted to blurt out something like . . . ‘you’ve got it wrong, I did it this way’. JMO.
Im no fan of the Ants but Cindy looked really really bad yesterday
the toll this is taking is evident. They have gone thru some stages of grief and many still believe that they are going to get thrown under the bus by Baez. I dont see how the defense could bring them into this mess,
but with this defense team, anything is possible. Interesting comments about a mental defense. Most women who are sociopaths do have sexual
abuse in their history – there seems to be none in Casey’s case. I believe
Susan Smith was sexually abused by her stepfather – who apologised to her after she went to prison. (yeah, they are always sorry later)
I have had time to reflect on my ‘Cindy just looks awful’ comment, and it was not about her new hair etc. But after reviewing the photos and video of the family leaving via the courthouse hallways, this ‘look’ was so tranformed, that it had to be purposefully emphasized with ‘no’ makeup, or no colour, no highlights, not even a hint of added natural colour or gloss to the lips. Not once before, even in a casual media shoot, did we see such a Cindy to look as if all the colour had gone, all the life had gone. Even if this is the case, the bleached eyelashes and bleached hair, with the almost powdered pale face, seems on the verge of ‘theatrics’.
It is time for a female ‘Ghost of Christmas future?’ Maybe it was the lighting in the courthallways.
I don’t want to make light of the grandparent’s struggle, right or wrong by joking about makeup and hair colour. This isn’t my intent– this isn’t a ‘jab’ either, at what is natural. But why go so overboard on the ‘pale’ poor me look, when a slight bit of Avon lip colour on lips and over cheeks, if not ‘theatre’.
Maybe this was for Casey’s benefit, not the jury pool. Maybe it was to help Casey see a more subdued, pale, energy gone, mother.
I suspect that Casey no longer believes that the protective custody is for her protection in her ‘kidnap and threats’ story and reality might have set in since she said how much she appreciated the protective custody, ‘in every way possible’. She can no longer believe that the threats story will work, on any level.
Guys, I just wanted to thank you all for puting up with me yesterday.
Blink, You rock! though I must leave the following here:
When ppl show up in your blog, out of nowhere, to bash the defense antics, criticise the false “pathos” on Cindy’s face or endlessly go on about how far KC resembles a flemish pieta when she cryes, head on Lyons shoulder. As the boss, you should NOT reprimend, BUT LOOK FOR THE LOVE…turn to that fellow blogger & just say (privatly or not)
“Honey, we love you!”
I dont know if I can manage to watch another live stream court session without your company now!!!
would you mind if I join your party now & then fellas?
thanx also for the forgiveness regarding my English/grammar..!U were all nice & warm to me , regardless, and I truly thank you for that!
To follow up– fhe ‘family strength’ was once given to Casey in George’s little story of the family as a hand, each member represented by one of the fingers on the hand which when held together in a fist, unbreachable. The image of Casey in control and part of this strong family-only unit, substituted now, with Casey’s only saviour, Ms. Lyon.
Wouldn’t a certain ‘breaking down’ of whatever ‘rules’ or past behaviour patterns, be needed, so that Ms. Lyons, or anyone else, could begin to reach Casey so that she could use sobbing as a substitute for the anger shown welling momentarily before she dug deep to not show her anger to Mr. Ashton and his words, but so she could give herself permission to act in another way, a more appropriate way. Cindy had been in control of the ‘plan’ behind the legal advisor Baez, from the beginning, as she had been in control for so many years. Her influence on Casey’s present behaviour, ‘stay strong/don’t say anything’ had to be gone or Casey couldn’t accept the help/advice she needed.
What if someone like Casey had been taught such methods when she was younger, how to cope with her stresses so they would, if need be, emulate the desired emotions instead of the welling, teeth-gritting, fist clenching anger, and maybe some of those emotions/tears would allow her to open up ways understanding, even if only a glimmer. Maybe there would be ways of opening up the ability to empathize in some small way.
I’m just thinking of the ideas in recent years, where people get together and just, go through the motions of ‘laughing’ and the result is the participants ‘feel better’. Maybe empathy isn’t so contagious as laughter, but a person learning to ‘laugh’ or ‘sob’ might actually trigger the feelings that go along with those ‘acts’. Minimally, being allowed to show appropriate weakness/vulnerability would be praised and rewarded. With Cindy, I suspect the only reaction she would get from Casey in a dispute situation, was the opposite.
I’m sure Cindy did the best she could, but she was too close and would not allow anyone to intervene with ‘her’ role as mother and head of family.
Now it seems Cindy has submitted, even visually, and allowed Ms. Lyon, in her new dark suit of strength to take over completely (notice, no more seafoam, no more summer whites).
blink i’m just curious that’s all…do you think the duct tape was used in the helping of the death of caylee? and if she didn’t use chloroform what do you think caylee died of? i suppose she could have done something to her then set up the kidnapping scenario still have much do you think the duct tape will weigh on the jurorers minds?
in the 48 hours page (cbs site) there are afew full episodes available online. There’s one , called “into thin air” about a certain family that is served with tha situation of having the petratot & vic of the crime within the family. If any of you watched it, THAT is HOW i expect a NORMAL PERSON TO REACT when confronted with such complex situation…THAT is a FAIR/innocent danage control mode IMO
…as opposed to the “fantastic” saga were following, that also atracts con artists like a magnet!(let alone the very family menbers..)
also if biazz decide to call dominic casey as a witness wouldn’t that leave him open for a depostion a depostion of the state more than the investigative one that is going to happen will biazz get in with the depostion next week with dominic casey? he wanted to real bad so i wonder what this man has to say?
lily, your comment about obtaining health records just reminded me of something.
Casey’s hospitalization after the episode where Jesse called 911 and Casey was taken to the hospital, many tests run, according to Cindy, and nothing found to be the cause of the episode.
Casey was an adult at the time. Cindy implied ‘knew’ that Casey had no drugs in her system, because as she stated, there were many tests done and nothing showed up. How would Cindy know what tests for drug use were done, if any? Cindy would know what normal tests would be done, and that these would not necessarily be done to identify traces of drugs so obviously she could say ‘no drugs found’.
Would an emergency physician or hospital, release drug testing results to a mother of an adult patient with no history of drug use/abuse, according to the family, without the patient’s knowledge beforehand?
I agree with your assessment of her body language. We are somehow wrong on her use of chemicals–her reaction showed that. She was curling up and hiding during the description of the duct tape placement and her daughter’s last gaze. Her guilt is undeniable.
It is painful to watch even knowing her guilt and feeling as outraged as I do about her selfish murder, the 31 days, the cover-up, her families’ actions, etc,etc, shenanigans…..
painful and so very sad. That footage alone is an indictment.
so is lyon saying that research shows that dp cases unfairly result in death sentence convictions because an inherent nature in the jury selection process of a dp case yeilds a unbalanced prodeath jury?if i said that right, is it true that research shows that? ,in short do most dp cases end up on death row?there is a chance her winning streak could be broken.how often has she been instrumental in plea bargins.
“Whiteknight” logic include ALL the facts of the prosecution decision for this case? (whiteknight is purported to be Cindy, certainly could be from past postings about them fighting the state until it’s bankrupt if that’s what it takes to prove Casey’s innocence):
(source http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/12/tears-flow-in-casey-anthony-te.html)
“Casey Anthony
Mourad Balzourt was sentenced to life in prison for strangling his girlfriend and burning the body on the side of the road in Central Florida–prosecutors did not seek the death penalty–as reported in the Orlando Sentinel. Casey Anthony is facing the death penalty–there is no manner of death. This is injustice and needs to be taken off the table.
By whiteknight @ 12/11/09 10:01:55 PM”
Ok, this person got ‘life’ and not ‘death’. Well, that is a jury’s decision if it went through trial to sentencing phase and the dp was on the table– and if the dp was on the table, then Ms. Lyon is wrong about dp juries. This is an Anthony tactic, give partial information and expect the conclusion they want from that partial information, to be accepted by those listening or reading their argument. What this doesn’t say, is whether there was a plea (Casey had the chance to plea, she refused adamantly more than once, she even refused to talk to help save her daughter when she says she was still alive). This person also may have psychological issues serious enough to mitigate in a plea for life vs death, but ‘whiteknight’ wants people to accept incomplete information– she needs to give all relevent info. It’s like ‘no body in the woods’ because no one noticed it, or noticed flies or insects (underwater species!) or the ‘diving variety’ of Buzzards. Same thing– not enough information to make her argument.
Blink, in Chica’s 233 comment, dealing with the audio of the court proceedings, she’s right, in minute 23:56, apparently Lyon forgot to turn the mic off, and she tells Casey, “You can sob now”, and Casey replies, “I can”? Will this play any part in the solid, further evidence of the defense’s meaningless tactics, and Casey’s guilt? The state would have had to have that knowledge of Lyon’s mic still being on, and another truth being brought forth
dee,
sorry missed your question yesterday, I live in lisbon, Portugal
That weird country where madeleine Mcann “desapeared” (btw, their back this weekend…that lovely couple!)
Blink
why such a point on highlighting the fact that it was underwater therefore not suitable for serching??
it could have the ideal conditions and yet, they could have missed it!ok there’s plenty of ways to go:
a) wheather conditions
b) descrediting those 2 fellas altogheder ww Millet or illegal taped conversation
..but the fact is when the 15 year old placed the 9 year old body in the woods, the place was searched ans it took the murder to go and point it out to LE, aint the fact that roots were growing through bones enough to stablish it WASNT MOVED and save money/time w depos and these idiots cross exam?
Blink, Thanks so much for your post in 302. It’s not often I get things right but if you’re in agreement… I feel I did ‘get it right’ this time. I don’t usually share my gut feelings… glad I did this time! I respect the heck out of you and your opinion sooo… “thanks” my friend
Blink
your pop up window is perfect for Miss Lyon! LOL
” Nothing says I love you like…”
I am now just getting the chance to watch the fourt parts.
I may be commenting on things others have posted already–sorry if I am repeating things.
First: I loved how LDB ate Tennis up. Her comment on: “I guess…. we can convert it into a (investigative) subpoena. Put the same information under a new lable. [Wasting tax payers money] And play musical chairs. Loved it!
Also, I loved it when LDB held her composure when Tennis said things such as: I guess I am ok with you “secretly” deposing my client and having no court reporter.
Altho Strickland did tell her to go a head and reissue the subpoena, I didn’t understand if Biez will be aloud to attend. What was the answer?
Gotta go back and research the 6th and 8th amendment. Unless a blinker can give it to me in a nutshell.
Lyon used words like: grievous situation, interfering, intrusive, unnecessary, and not fair. Sayiing this interfers with her client’s rights.
#1. Hey Casey, where were Caylee’s rights when you held her under the water??
#2. Casey FORFEITED her rights when she entered that facility.
I too agree that Casey cried on Cue in court. As soon as Lyon said, “honey, I love you” she paused….then casey cried. Also, she spent quite a bit of time wiping to make sure her eye liner didn’t smudge.
I thought the OC addy made good strong arguments. “The OC Jail can not be required to modify it’s internal Jail system for this ONE inmate.” As I see it, if this goes thru, then it sets a precident for ALL inmates. Bad manuver.
I thought it was a good tactic to remind the court that where it has interveined and made decisions on operational and executive rules, they have been later REVERSED.
The Orland Sential Guy, made a good argument when he said, “Public records from the OC Jail must be maintained and not destroyed incase this goes for an appeal. Yes, good argument.
Now, I better go and watch the last two sections.
blink I cant get trhough today!!!! I can only see my posts, and I’m tired of listening to my own head!
I wanted to read other ppls thingy’s…this is so annoying!
can any blogwizard help?
Moderated, and Blink has Blinkettes with Christmas Festivities
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Blink your comment 305 “For the record, I get past the appearance issues and although I do not share most of her views, I find her to be an exceptionally capable attorney”
with all do respect I thought she was a nightmare walking, I can appreciate her commitment to protecting her clients from the death penalty, however, she is a windbag, and I will sit back and watch and see if she is as good as she thinks she is, watching her silenced by ole KB makes me beg to differ. That was a prime time to defend all of her outrageous statements and she was completely silenced, where were her Huevos when she needed them?
#175 Filipa
I cannot agree with you more. You hit the nail on the head.