Morgan Harrington Case: An Appeal To * You Know Who*
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Charlottesville, VA–The disappearance of Morgan Harrington, missing since October 17, 2009 is exhibiting the potential to reach a temperature that is currenlty encompassing the Northeast: VERY COLD.
Through the thousands of posts at blinkoncrime.com and numerous articles covering Morgan, it is clear that frustration in the lack of lead generation and ambiguous statements from the Virginia State Police are causing some to lack conviction Morgan will be found.
In a recent press conference by VSP, LE provided NO NEW information or progress regarding Morgan’s case. In a shift of posture by the Harrington family, Dr. Harrington has begun participating in online chat and sponsored an additional facebook site to help the efforts to find his daughter.
In fact, for the first time in 2.5 months, we know what kind of camera Morgan had with her the evening of the Metallica concert from his research.
In contrast, we have viewed footage and photos of her dear friends that have clearly moved on without the knowledge of their friends plight.
Girls will be girls you say? Before one person comes on here to tell me I am being too critical of these young women you should know that due to a fortunate Facebook update, describing these girls as Morgan’s friends is entirely generous.
Furthermore, if you happen to be one of the parents that has provided booze for underage minors captured on digital for all to see you may wish to take a peek at what is on your daughter’s social sites.
Have you thought about what it would be like to be Gil or Dan while your linin’ it up and throwin’ em back WITH your kids?
Fortunately, this is not the focus today. I do not feel Morgan’s friends did anything to directly cause her fate. They are more “ME” than frienemy, that is evident.
Gil Harrington, posting on the families site findmorgan.com, wrote one of the most eloquent and courageous posts from the Mother of a missing child I have ever read.
The snowfall is beautiful but still disturbing – melancholy. Wonder if Morgan is cold – is snow falling on her face – or is her face covered by leaves in a shallow grave being hidden by the snow. I glance out the window and see the crimson blaze of a cardinal at the bird feeder – my heart leaps for a second at the beauty – then I think its feathers look like blood in the snow. Is that what Morgan’s blood looks like in the snow? See how the pitfalls are everywhere – even at the bird feeder.
In a somewhat angst-ridden moment, a poster on blinkoncrime.com suggested any and all witnesses in this case should be subject to repeated Barry Manilow songs until they confess.
It jogged a memory for me that reminded me that I am proudly my Father’s daughter. Morgan is Dan Harrington’s daughter.
Maybe someone, somewhere, has just not approached that perspective.
In response to the MAN-i-low dis-
Blink prefacing below to say: yes, off topic, and yes, I am on cold meds, but y’all went after the “MAN ilow”. < ?xml:namespace prefix ="" o />
Barry holds a special place in the heart of my family. When I was a kid I used to play dress up with my Mom’s clothes. If a pair of her way-too-big-for-me heels was “done”, she would let me cut off the ankle straps and dance around in them as slides.
One afternoon, when I should have been doing my homework, I was blaring Copa Cabana in my Parents study dressed like a thriftshop showgirl and when ” Who could ask for more…at the Copa” part came on, I kicked like a 12 year old Rockette and launched my “slide/RPG” into the ceiling.
There it stayed.
I threw everything I could find at that shoe to dislodge it. Nothing.
Except for the new marks on the scalloped ceiling.
Later, when unbeknownst to me, my Dad was reading his 12 daily newspapers in the study, I thought I might try another idea.
I jumped as hard as I could at the spot upstairs above where the slutslipper was lodged.
It worked on the 3rd try.
How do I know?
I heard a “S o n o f a …..” , then something that sounded like a combination of my first and middle names with a swear word interjected that was rising in tone and volume, and now coming my way.
As I hit the hallway to head to the other direction or squeeze myself unnaturally under something, there He was
My Dad, evidence in hand, smiling wryly form ear to ear.
“Yours I presume, young lady,” his forearm outstretched gently with the nail to my coffin in his palm.
I responded .. “What makes you say that?
Could be ketchup or mustards..”
(Lame editors note: do NOT ask, my sisters and I had bathing suits that matched when we were little that were red, yellow and white, respectively, it stuck to this day, I was Mayo)
He replied .. ” Because I know, this weekend, when you fish out your overalls and help me fix the ceiling before your Mother notices, you would rather do that than whatever she comes up with so we can be all done here. The End. ( Blink dad making the wipe hands clean gesture)
She has been talking about repainting the Family room for months, I would LOVE some help with that…”
“Yes Sir.” I muttered with a matching grimace.
“Can I have it back?” I asked.
“I would say your dancing days are on hold, dear daughter, for the foreseeable future, as are your TV privliges.”
“Anything else? ” I asked.
“Why yes, there is. If you choose to dance through the house with wreckless abandon, next time, do it when your homework is finished and in your tennis shoes. And can you please try to be more like your Mother and less like me?”
“Doubtfull Deets, doubtful.”
With that carefully measured tween rhetort I skipped down the hall, crisis averted and I am still Dad’s fave.
I can live with the painting. Wonder if I can pick the color??
I chose to share this very personal exchange with my Daddy because it dawned on me that maybe someone that reads this does not understand what Morgan’ s Father (and family, but this reference is strictly male) needs from them.
He was her protector. He is her ceiling fixer.
You have to give him back what you took so he can fix it for her and their family.
He does not care who you are or what you may have done.
You can do this for them now. Have faith that anything can be fixed. Anything.
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>>>Comment by Swiss Miss — January 12, 2010 @ 2:28 pm
Re Skyler’s post #675.
Hi Skyler, thank you so much for sharing your friend’s gift, and her information is reasonable and makes a lot of sense. Have you contacted LE with it? <<<
No — I contacted LE w/ proof positive of underaged drinking — or at least enough information to “warrant” a look into it — they didn’t respond — they’re not going to respond to me calling up and saying: Hey, LE, I have a friend who gets psychic visions, and this here is what happened to that blonde girl who’s missing from dat dar metal head show …
Click….
No, and they should not. It should not be taken negatively. Giving info to LE is largely one sided until they run it down.
That’s not a negative
B
I should expound just a bit more —
I don’t mean to be rude or anything, but I have zero faith in LE at this point — if Morgan’s found, I believe it’s going to be by a hunter or someone in the outdoors, like a hiker or surveyor or even utility person working on a rural line — or that someone walks into LE, w/ an attorney and a digital pix of Morgan’s location and says: this is where she is and this is what happened –
at that point they’d have to drop the Krispee Kreams and go do something —
I know how that sounds, but it’s how I feel ….
I have not moved from “its him” in the picture.
Yep.
Me neither.
B
pssst, j2 the k, it’s SMARTERT, not smarter
see?
Comment by smartertthanyallcombined
ROTFL* ATWMP
B
There are lots of restaurants and bars in town, most frequented by certain age groups, especially the after hours bars. The twenty somethings would likely be around one of the many bars at the Corner. The Virginian, III, Boylen’s, etc. Graduate students and thirty somethings would be more likely to be at one of the bars on the downtown Mall. Ten, Blue Light, Rapture, e.g. Cool thirties, forties, and older may be down in Belmont. Bel Rio, Mas, The Local. These focus mainly on the good food, but Bel Rio is a music place after dinner. They would be less likely to let an underage person get away with drinking down there. Then there are all the chain-type bars up Rt. 29…I don’t know who goes to those, honestly. Probably people from the surrounding counties and Rt. 29 people.
If this is a cool couple that Skyler’s friend has a feeling about, one that caters to the younger set (twenties), they’d be meeting up with people along the Corner, or possibly at one of the bars down Main Street. Or if they still look like students, they might hang around the fraternity parties on nights they have bands. If they’ve been here a while and need to fit in with their age-group, they’d be on the Mall at Ten, say, or Rapture.
There are tons of bars and restaurants…but these would be my areas of choice if I were looking.
These are guesses.
where does the JPJA keep all the confiscated flasks?
But I’ll expound a little bit more —
only because I just remembered this part —
she did say that LE has a working theory — but from what she’s getting, it’s not what happened — but that LE was focusing on information to make their theory “work” or was working on the evidence to make it fit their “theory” and was pretty much discounting everything else —
and then when I read the posts from people who were at the Nov. search and they were bringing back items and that the person who was in charge of that collection station was only giving a terse examination of the found items and then throwing them away — it made me think of what my friend said: that LE was trying to make the evidence fit their theory —
now, just suppose for one second that my friend is right — and that there is another female involved — if Morgan and this girl had gotten into some sort of altercation and jewelry was ripped off the other female, but the only thing LE was looking for was the “necklace” — the jewelry found during the search was basically thrown away — so why search ?
again, I have zero experience or knowledge (other than TV, and btw, my son and his friend think Abby on NCIS is just smoking hot in her tats and gothware) –but I don’t know what goes into an investigation —
to me, everyone is a suspect and all evidence is important evidence — until it’s not.
LE apparently has ruled out the “ridees” and BB players — the last known people to have interaction w/ Morgan — w/out letting us in on the why of it all — which I guess is their right —
someone posted up thread — sorry, I just don’t remember — but I thought it was a very valid point — IS the FBI and DEA involved in this — again, watching too much TV — because there is a large drug “ring” in this area, and Morgan missing is small potatoes compared to the “big picture”
I can tell you this — because I did some work on a similar case — the United States has a strict policy of non-negotiations w/ terrorist — shoot, I can’t think of the term right now — ask me at 3 AM when I sit up in bed and say: it’s ___ — but in essence, if a terrorist has 20 people hostage, and demands 20 mill from the USofA — the US says: too bad on those 20 lives, for the greater good, we’ll sacrifice them and no deal — click
I’m not saying this is happening, but if they believe Morgan met her demise thru a drug “ring” — and if poor Kristan Fox’s death is somehow related — it’s very possible DEA may sacrifice Morgan’s recovery until they can make a case for a larger fish —
I hope that’s not the case, but who the heck knows anything at this point. The only thing I know is that Morgan is missing, and I want her back. Yesterday. Damn the torpedoes ! (you have to really be old to understand that — ha)
Sky, because I heart you, and everyone seems to be receptive, I am going to let you go with this. It is NOT the norm for me and I am so anti-psychic I cannot even comment on it. That said, not everyone is, and I trust posters here to let me know if it starts looking like the ole psychic facebook.
Or
I am a vein editor that realizes your friends vision is very similar to my original profile of this case.
Kidding
I am giving latitude where I would normally not, because it is you.
B
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[single tear rolls down J2K's face as she shakes fist in general direction of Eagles practice field]
Anyway! As far as the witness account of an MH lookalike getting her flask confiscated during her entry/re-entry attempt, do you have reason to believe this sighting? If accurate, security may have taken her flask because she was *that* wasted, and they threatened to call the police if she didn’t depart the premises.
As far as the pills (if this scenario was true)…
[WARNING: Way out there in Speculationville]
The witness must have seen a prescription pill bottle to identify it as such. I doubt MH had a ‘scrip for Oxy or percocets, and it may have been a legal prescription if it did not trigger confiscation along with the flask.
So. If we venture onto the limb regarding her possible heroin or opiate use, it *could* have been methodone (prescribed to recovering dope addicts) and, upon the encounter being reported to LE by security members present, it may have offered investigators a potential clue as to her background as well as her motivation from that point on in the evening.
As I said before: just puttin’ it out there.
Chad (#791) re: “Sorry guys, I can’t go there with the purse. J2K can though. She’ll figure it out!”
Chad my dear, surely you jest. Surely.
fish (re: #792)
I think you articulated yourself just fine.
(And way to reference Monster! – Looks like anti-freeze, tastes like it’s gonna be a Baaaad hangover…)
i’m thinking morgan did not go out to get a flask—wasn’t the car locked? or are we just assuming it was because she left instead of sitting in it.
shannon, nice shirt in yer new fb. i’ve got a Tapout gym bag. bummer that ‘Mask’ dude died
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http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stories/14839/harrington-family-presses-on-in-search-for-daughter
*Dan and Gil Harrington, the parents of missing Virginia Tech student Morgan Harrington, believe their daughter is still alive and potentially in the Charlottesville area.*
Is there something they know that we have not been privy too? Or could it be they have now come to the conclusion that Morgan took something that altered her so they are looking to the “underground” …
That statement confused me. Unless its just their only way of dealing with all of this. Guess I would be the same way if it was my child, wanting her to be alive no matter what!!! God my heart breaks for these people.
Someone up thread mentioned possibly Morgan just walked away from a party she was at (can’t remember the details of what was posted or who even posted it) but I wondered the same thing….what if they were partying and she went out for whatever reason and just started walking, got turned around or lost….bad trip, shes all alone…..could it be possible and that’s why no one is coming forward with any info? I know this is really out there, just my over active thoughts.
Comment by Swiss Miss — January 12, 2010 @ 6:06 pm
# Comment by Georgie — January 12, 2010 @ 4:51 pm: I’m sorry to bring THIS up again, but the “poster” on the wall behind Shannon’s new FB pic looks a little bit like the one behind “Morgan and friends” from the pic Clementine linked on here that we thought showed Shannon in front Morgan and friends.
I think you may be correct Georgie…
sorry Swiss and Georgie but to me, it looks as if shannon has what we call “shrink wrap”, no disrespect intented, on his window which is over the blinds, not a good idea since you can not open unless cord is outside then whammo, you’ve got an airleak and i think he’s got an airleak problem. i would advise to use the original shrink wrap that works with a blow dryer! you get a nice tight fit with no leaks! my father made me do enough windows in my day so this i am certain of. maybe shannon can have my back on this one.
also, i think the photo of clementine six is some sorta art project, gone bad, made out of tin that is hanging on painted white cinder-block walls. mr. black t-shirt looks to be holding sunglasses. they all are in short-sleeved shirts so i could be summertime.
before you all go, what’s up with fish? i have a husband, son and the daughter who was sick, in here looking at what i am doing. this is collective family night on BOC! i think they thought they had lost me to the cyberworld so they better well join me. oops, lost one to xbox. i wish it was different here more importantly i wish it was different for the Harrington family.
Shannon, can you please reassure my husband that it is not you in the photo with the burgundy shirt on, taking the photo!! thanks a million!
definately not me in th picture of morgan and friends ,it is me in th tiny pic below ,as far as th window ,i probably do need th typ with th hairdryer instructions,,this typ came with double sided tape ,thot it wuld be as good ,its not..th tapout shirt is th army version ,it has soldiers on th back sticking an american flag in the gtound,,
“alive and in the Charlottesville area”, geeze. This is so painful for the Harringtons, I don’t know how they can stand it.
I really want to believe this, and I will believe this, but she’d really have to be in hiding, and be very good at it.
My heart breaks for these people. I can feel their desperation from here.
B
Comment by radiogirl — January 12, 2010 @ 7:21 pm
I have not moved from “its him” in the picture.
Yep.
Me neither.
B
neither has the hubby!! not budging, no way, no how, not for all the money, not for me, either.
please Shannon, throw me a bone, are you there? hello? anyone? can you enlighten us on anything? shannon, btw, i will expound on shrink wrap if you care to listen. i consider myself an expert!
I know this is now off topic – but had we already established the locale of the camping/partying pic from threads ago? If not, I feel like this is it…..
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3918930&id=48988371399#/photo.php?pid=3905387&id=48988371399&fbid=251625806399
It’s set up for the Blue Mountain Festival. I know we’ve already established a connection between Morgan/Blue Mountain/various bands that played there but I just wanted to confirm that it looks like the “Sugar Shack” – a stage for bands at this small, home-grown festival.
Not really feeling a connection between the above location and her disappearance though.
(Mosaic – remember when Joey Tribbiani called it a “moo point – as in, a cow said it so who cares?”)
Anyway, what about this scenario that is like what someone – sorry I can’t remember who – posted after the hitchhiking inf’n came out:
– Morgan is serious about getting back to H’burg and hitchhikes and gets a ride – known or unknown driver.
– Something happens on the ride, and she insists on being let out of the car. The driver pulls over, lets her out, and drives on.
– She is wearing dark clothing on a highway at night; could she have been hit & knocked over a guardrail and not seen – the driver who hits her may not realize it was a person who was hit.
Something like that happened here a couple of years ago – someone was riding his bike, got hit and knocked over a guardrail, bike & all. The driver swerves, overcorrects & crashes. The Rescue Squad comes to take care of her & she says “what about the cyclist?” Until she said that, they had no idea that this person was lying beyond the guardrail, unseen, injured, unconscious.
The person Morgan hitchhiked with would probably know that she was now a missing person, but may not come forward because of whatever happened in the car that led her to get out, because s/he doesn’t know what happened after Morgan got out – maybe someone else picked her up – and because s/he maybe believes that it’s “not my problem”
On the other hand, all the sightings of Morgan look-alikes is getting to skeptical me.
fish, i betcha jpja throws out every confiscated item, just like the airlines do
Hi Fish and Fish’s family! That is hysterical! I told my husband about your family night on BOC and he said “do you mind if I don’t?” I’ve told him and my daughter that one of these days this case was going to be solved and they were gonna say “OMG that’s the case Mom was working on!!”
I think it will be soon.
lol
B
Yo m’bozz blink,local rudy poo ‘n all ma candyazztightfittin homiez.
Wazup? Been rollin fro’tha badazz noth to tha durty sou’. Lettin yaz kno im stil in tha cheez. M’ candyazz is freezin cuz its fi’teen here ware i m. Lookin gud m’ bro and home gurlz. Rockon m’ man.
J2thaK or S2thaZ will translate.
If you enlarge the pic of SGM, I made it my screen saver (ugh, how do I get it off!). His is a poster of what looks like Sylvester Stallone in one of his action movies. The pic behind the 5 looks like movie “armor” like say “Transformers”. I went to a poster sight, but need to run out for a few. But Sly made a few futuristic, if you will, movies. Maybe if someone had time to look through more poster?
TIA
M
Oh, I think we know what’s up with fish. She’s a ringleader here.
She asks, “where does the JPJA keep all the confiscated flasks?”
Made my day! Now for a short errand in goblet-town.
my new facebook pic,my dad larry lee mcdaniel ,sp4,soldier of th month,dec,64out of th whole united states army ,mr mcdaniel,my dad ,jumped out of planes 64 times into hostile enemy teritory,taiwan vietnam ,okinawa ,my dad pulled ,when he couldv ran and hid ,,pulled his fellow injured soldiers out of a place called hell (th vietnam jungle)th injuries he suffered in th army were present th day he died ,as one jump went teribly wrong when his parachute did not open,he suffered a punctured lung and both sholder blades were pulled out of socket and numerous broken bones,th punctured lung was no longer activ,leaving him with only one activ lung he survived 40 more years with one lung this is all for th people of his country ,as well as th helpless vietnamese people ,so too th one or ones,that hav brought his name into this ,you should stand up and salute,, cause if it wasnt for people like my dad ,you would be speaking vietnameese ,and damn well sure wouldnt be on a computer.
Comment by th game shannonh — January 12, 2010 @ 7:05 pm
hey ,thats plastic over a window ,,th window lets in air as if your standing in a wind blizard ,its not a poster ,,window plastic from walmart ,,
shannon! i knew it. i can tell a good window dressing when i see one! we must have had the same windows in our house. it always felt like a balmy day inside!!! plus my dad was a penny pincher. “a penny earned is a penny saved”, he would say so he kept the tempurature low at our house. and you guys think it is cold here in virginia. go over to my parents house and i’ll show you cold. just don’t take off your coats.
shannon, please can you now tell me that is not you in the picture with erin and Morgan? my husband said yes it is. maybe you did not know her name thus you are saying it is not you. it is not a big deal, it’s just you might know the others? or even where they were at? did they crash a party you were at? sometimes i jump in pictures when i shouldn’t. trying not to do that to much anymore. embarrasses the kids! what, it happens!
since it was summer time it would make since that a poster would be there now but in the winter time you would have some kinda whatever it is now on window mr shannon you have never clear up why you misrepresent your age on facebook? also do you have a myspace? thanks kindly
>>>I am giving latitude where I would normally not, because it is you.
B
I know, precious, that’s why I wanted to own up to it and let everybody make their own decisions — And I am w/ you 100 % on these so-called “psychics” who charge these grieving families $600 to turn on the psychic machine — over on FB somebody had posted that “world famous” psychic coming to town — this was on the main wall — they were talking about some bozo named John Oliver — well, this “world class” psychic is such a fraud — he’s FROM C-ville, so if he’s a “psychic phenom” why wouldn’t he solve the case in his own hometown over Christmas break and collect the 150-grand for new year’s — because, he’s a freaking fraud ! I’ll stop. But I know my friend — she doesn’t advertise and keeps this really close to the vest …
and continually stuns me w/ the info she tells me — which I say will never happen, and dang, it does ….
but no fooling, is that what really was your original take on the case ?
And Localgirl — you are a wealth of information from the local perspective — good on you !! Just exercise caution and don’t knock on any farmhouse doors and ask ‘em: btw, are you responsible for the disappearance of Morgan Harrington ? : )
I dunno. Heroin use seems pretty far fetched. I lived in NYC before it became Disney-like and the heroin addicts I ran across were pretty tame and euphoric. More prone to nodding than kicking and yelling. When I was in college the “cool” drugs tended to be more hallucinogenic in nature than “ghetto” (what the kids called drugs like heroin and crack). Personally, I think Morgan’s behavior is pretty consistent with someone who has had a lot of alcohol. Probably something smooth and fast like grain alcohol punch. You can drink a lot quickly before even feeling tipsy and then whammo, you are a different person. And, as a fellow “pale person” (my friends called me translucent) I always looked pale and sickly in pictures next to my tan friends. If I had been wearing pronounced eye make-up I would have looked that much more ghostly.
Dar, you could not have said it any better — me, too
>>God my heart breaks for these people<<<
I’m going to read your link in a sec — but early on in the case, I read/saw an interview w/ Gil — maybe her blog ?? — she said even though all the evidence points to Morgan’s demise, she just couldn’t go there and had to keep believing — but, you could be absolutely correct, maybe they know some “good” news we don’t — I pray it is so –
Since Shannon brought up his cousin JT Wells, I thought I noticed a resemblance between him, Jd Wells and MW Wells, and upon further examination, they also happen to look like the Snead men. Just for the heck of it, I googled McDaniel Snead family, and immediately found a geneology site with this info:
from eastern Virginia I have discovered that John W Snead’s parents were most likely a Nicholas Snead who married a Sally (Sarah) McDaniel in Albemarle County Va in 1820.
On another geneology site, Found a chart that had a Kirby Snead marrying a Laura Wells in Goochland Cty, Va dates beside Laura Wells’ name 1901-1930.
Good Lord, is everybody related down there?
This is a little OT, but Blink if you’ll give me just an inch more latitude — I’m just interested — since all this has happened, and since we all are going to need to enroll into a 12-step program for BOC, has it affected your relationship w/ your children and other people — for me, it certainly has —
When my son leaves to go back to the city, I hug him longer — and his roommate, who calls me his second mom and I call him my second son —
this is gross — BEFORE Christmas, my son was here and stayed a few days and I slept on the couch, because I had to work early the next morning, and he slept in my bed — a couple of weeks ago I was smelling this weird smell and I couldn’t figure out what on earth it could be — I even put up those little glade plug-ins — well, I decided to finally vacuum under the bed (my bad) and found a plate that had turned into a science project — in the past, I would have called him and complained — instead I just cried thinking about the Harringtons and how Gil and Dan wish they could find a moldy plate under their bed put there by Morgan and how blessed I am to have this boy who grew up way too soon —
I miss my parents more — and Blink, pray everyday for your mom — I think about what a self-centered brat I was — and how much my parents loved me —
Morgan, a beautiful, shiny young woman that I don’t even know, has given me such a gift —
God, bring her home soon — Please
Ty Skyler. From one self absorbed brat to another. I do not know how my parents got through it; I am just glad they did.
B
Hey Skyler. Regarding your friend’s visionary gift/theory of what happened to Morgan (post 676), you posted this awhile ago, right? If not then I am having a case of deja vu because I swear I remember reading about this vision/theory here on BOC way before Xmastime.
Gil Harrington’s thoughts from December 31stOn January – 12 – 20101 COMMENT
http://findmorgan.com/category/family-blog
December 31, 2009
Alex and I went to Charlottesville on Monday to meet with Virginia State Police and go to the Copeley Bridge. Morgan, knocking chunks of ice and snow off your flowers was a pretty bleak and disheartening task – tolerable only because it was something we did for you.
I didn’t know we were supposed to cram an entire lifetime of loving and living into the 20 short years we have spent with you. I hope that is not true, but our fear grows daily.
This time around, grieving has been very different for us. Interesting to see how each of us goes about it in such distinct ways. Dan and I have really pulled in – staying close to home. Needing the solitude and refuge it offers to keep ourselves intact. Alex, here visiting, is going crazy with our coping style – because he has managed by staying extremely busy and not having time to think or process the magnitude of Morgan’s abduction. Alex has been helpful in getting us to re-engage with life and activities outside our home. In turn, we have shown Alex the value and necessity of some stillness and downtime. Slowly, we are learning from each other the skills necessary to help us survive this horrific loss – despite our moments of fear and weaknesses.
suz (#804) re:
“pssst, j2 the k, it’s SMARTERT,
not smarter.
…see?”
suz: Touché.
I *knew* shouldn’ta lent my JtodaK-s2dZ Pocket Translator to clementine!
(#654 Comment by clementine — January 11, 2010 @ 3:56 pm
“Whiles DJ Shizzle McNizzle wuz bizzy stylin’ he facebook profile & frontin sentence frags wit y’all in d’Blinkhouse last nite sum shizz wuz goin down over at Find Morgan concernin hiz azz. Ima lay the 411 on y’all, so listen up m’Blinkstas…”)
No, but fa serious – good point in #809:
“i’m thinking morgan did not go out to get a flask—wasn’t the car locked? or are we just assuming it was because she left instead of sitting in it.”
Considering MH had a fairly new-looking Honda sports coup, I’d imagine it had auto/remote locks, and the DD likely felt a little more cautious and vigilant because he was responsible for the car.
(Oh “Irony,” you hard-to-define-but-often-perfect word, you…)
Plus, her car was allegedly in the UHall lot to the left of the JPJ entryway and across Massie Road. I think if she had dashed to her car (doubtful anyway) and returned before she was seen out in front of the doors circa 8:20, there would have been at least one witness sighting of her trotting/trudging to or from UHall around 8:15 pm.
Nope. If that was her, she had the flask on her already, and just got lucky/wasn’t as wasted the first time she went in… *if* that was her.
fish ( #811) re:
“it looks as if shannon has what we call ‘shrink wrap,’ no disrespect intented, on his window which is over the blinds, not a good idea since you can not open unless cord is outside then whammo, you’ve got an airleak and i think he’s got an airleak problem. i would advise to use the original shrink wrap that works with a blow dryer! you get a nice tight fit with no leaks! …”
fish, what *can’t* we do over the internet? (Thank you, Al Gore!)
In regard to your thought:
“i think the photo of clementine six is some sorta art project, gone bad, made out of tin that is hanging on painted white cinder-block walls. mr. black t-shirt looks to be holding sunglasses. they all are in short-sleeved shirts so i could be summertime. …”
To me, it’s pretty clear they’re sitting in a classic Basement. Unfinished, of course, and partially decked with a dark, matted rug or a weird swirly-print one from the ’70s (if you’re lucky), as well as old, mis-match furniture lit up by the fluorescent tubes over the washer/dryer and a thrift-store lamp on a dumpster-dive-find end table. The thing hanging behind them, therefore, is probably a wrinkled poster clinging to the cinder-block wall by a single piece of Scotch tape.
(Imo, natch.
Hope the daughter’s feeling better and you can get some sleep… or hang around BOC uninterrupted.)
B.
You have to tell me.
*who* was “smartTERT?”
I’ll root for your Jets over the Chargers…
I belive the smarttest-er-est .
Not sure. Cause… I am not the above.
B
I didn’t mean to start a rumor that the DEA was involved, fish
. Also, Skyler, let me clarify what I meant. I didn’t mean to make my post sound like morgan was smaller potatoes compared to what the dea could find by monitoring a small drug dealing ring in a small town. I meant that a smaller drug dealer wouldn’t be as important as a full blown ring say in like, baltimore or something (see, here i go, referencing “the wire”). Also, I was trying to say like maybe the DEA is aware of small time drug dealers but they are not worth their time until it serves a purpose. If morgan’s disappearance had anything to do with a small town drug dealer, it might alert the folks in DC. You know what I mean? That’s all I was trying to say. 
Also, I’m not too much older than Morgan and in my day, I knew people that carried drugs in prescription bottles to make it look legit if for some reason they were stopped. I’m talking pot here. But even if she had a prescription bottle that doesn’t mean that what’s on the label is what is actually in the bottle. Could be carrying around ecstasy, shrooms, who knows. I’m not saying she was, just that it’s an easy mask and an easy way to carry drugs around.
Blink, I am again posting some of OYE’s comments, as Chad and others expressed interest. I hope this okay. I do not want to hijack the thread.
Also, OYE if you’re still lurking, I hope you will join in again. I know you would have never came to this site unless you wanted to help Morgan.
Mosiac, just want to say you were right I was wrong, sometimes we have to take a step back ya know?
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/12/16/morgan-harrington-case-virginia-state-police-on-new-search/#comments
(only post on this thread: post in its entirety:)
OPEN YOUR EYES — December 17, 2009 @ 3:08 pm
um not sure where the photo came from above, but not a very good photoshop job. . .
If your suggesting I photoshopped it you would be wrong. What looks photoshopped?
B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/11/20/morgan-harrington-case-separating-fact-from-fiction-from-facebook-part-ii/#comments
(Posts by OYE on this thread * post is one referencing camp ground)
# Comment by OPEN YOUR EYES — December 9, 2009 @ 12:53 pm
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=9576645&op=4&o=global&view=global&subj=162224546575&id=505480153
ok sorry to say this, but she looks so totally sick and out of place in this photo. . .she definitely had something going on. ..that, coupled with the over-surveillance by parents, overdrawn bank account (of girl whose family is NOT struggling), I need help with my homework, transfer from high school in Senior year (WHO does THAT??) SHE WAS DEF STRUGGLING with something. Notice there are no NEW FRIENDS from the high school to which she transferred. . .once someone is into a “scene” that people don’t approve of, first thing friends do is try to help. If the “struggling” person refuses, sooner or later, friends eventually write them off because it is just too frustrating to deal with. Parents deny “this doesnt happen to us”, “she would never do that” “this is someone else’s fault” blah, blah & try to deal with it quietly.
Also–I have it on good info that MH was told “not to get drunk at that party”. I dont know if the party was before the concert, or maybe one to which she went after leaving the arena. . .If that is true perhaps scenario was this: MH “I cant get back in, I’m going to get a ride to X LOCATION for the party” SS: “Ok well then dont get drunk, etc” MH “yeah, WTF ever, dont worry about it” After concert, no Morgan, so SS & Company are like “I told her not to. . . .we can’t wait on her forever” EXIT SS & Company. Meanwhile, MH partied it up at X LOCATION, she OD’s, partiers freak and she is left in some unknown location.
If you notice the language of mom about the outfit: “she was covered” before concert, her mom’s constant referral to her as “our baby”, etc. they were not ready for Morgan to grow up. Morgan seems to have broken out of the shelter, and, unfortunately, most likely to her detriment. There may be a BG, but there was DEF a BGIRL too, IMHO.
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sleuthing involves gathering information from various sources as the opportunity arises and sometimes in situations that does not permit a thorough interrogation. And, sometimes you happen on information that, at the time it is gained, the significance is not apparent at that particular time, but reveals itself later. no?
Also, i would point out that i did not say Morgan was using DRUGS. ..those were YOUR WORDS, my dear. I said she was STRUGGLING WITH SOMETHING
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Call BS if you want. . . it doesn’t change the info. I know what I know. Just because I wont give you a name, address, phone number of the source on the INTERNET is laughable.
6th post entire:
@ RN Mom – you ever seen anyone in the ER for alcohol poisoning? can you tell us the immediate bodily reactions to alcohol poisoning? TIA
Open- You are not going to hijack this thread off-topic to serve a theory your refuse to provide a source for. Unless you can prove this ties directly to Morgan which is what you alleged, this topic sidebar is over.
B
7th post entire:
submit the following for your consideration: http://madisonmaddness.com/ Please read the article re: Sam Spady. Now, there is a FACT for you, Blink. Peace.
Open, that is an incredibly important article, and I recommend everyone reads it, however, you can’t say that is what happened here. Are you suggesting her friends dumped her somewhere?
B
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If you read the article, you would see that I AM suggesting that she COULD have become intoxicated to the point of wandering off, ingesting her own vomit and dying in some unknown location. Obviously that IS possible.
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I know that no one wants to believe that something bad “just happened” to a bright, beautiful, unselfish young lady in the prime of her life. That goes against every thing that is good in the world. The natural reaction is to “blame” a BG, the friends, SOMEONE! But sometimes, things DO just happen. . .Maybe Morgan’s parents had an inkling that she was too naive for the world and thus the overprotection. . .You should at least consider the information from those closest to the night, the venue, the community where this occurred.
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.I have no agenda actually but it is interesting to me that while posters here plead for informaton (anything, “even if it is negative”), they choose to discount and/or ridicule what is provided to them by #1 people actually present at the concert or #2: people who are familiar with members of the community in which MHs, her friends and family live and reside.
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i guess live and reside are the same thing?
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If she joined X or his group for a ride out of town at 9:30 and began to fade out as the lucid period from an acute-hematoma-type injury (keep in mind, this Natasha-Richardson-known condition is rare, but *can* happen if blood-swelling between the skull and brain begins and medical attention is not sought immediately – especially if exacerbated by alcohol). If she threw up or passed out from spiraling head trauma, the kids she was with likely thought it was from drinking too much, and maybe thought she would sleep it off, sober up. She could have been dead within an hour in that case, and I’m sure shocked panic would have ensued, as the people accompanying her would have had no idea of the severity of her true condition.
I know I’m reaching the end of a limb here, but *if* the timing of the Boyd Tavern account was off by the witness-to-the-witness by, say, 30-45 minutes, and the “distraught/freaking out” crew the alleged witness/stepfather at Boyd Tavern Market saw had a sick, headache-suffering, increasingly incoherent MH laying down in the backseat (not visible from the outside), it would explain the agitated state of the driver asking directions, the destination, and offer the potential that MH was dead or comatose before they even got back to Harrisonburg. Again, dudes would have no idea it was a head injury – they’d assume drugs or alcohol poisoning.
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J2K – finally. . . a different angle. Now, let’s say you are the dudes. . .what do you do? Let’s start there. . .
Lizzy: i appreciate everyone is bringing to this board an angle skewed by their own life experiences. Noted. If it helps, I WITHDRAW THE BGIRL COMMENT. Further, I would like to clarify that nowhere did I say she “deserved” anything, that I felt no compassion for her family or that we should call off all searches for anyone but sober virgins.
It is a horrible situation. However, by this time, the most of the more likely avenues have been explored. Perhaps it is time to at least consider some of the “unlikely” ones. . .
If, for the sake of argument, J2K’s scenario, or one like it is real. Do you think a 18-21 year old would come forward? Or, would you hope to God that someone would eventually connect the dots?
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# Comment by OPEN YOUR EYES — December 11, 2009 @ 3:27 pm
from the Perez Hilton Metallica Offers Reward: http://perezhilton.com/?p=73740
Post #99:
nakni11 says – reply to this
I’m a VT grad and live near C’ville. It does seem like VT is having its fair share of tragedy in the past couple of years
I really hope Morgan turns up, but to be honest I don’t think it’s very likely that anyone will find her alive.
Oh, and the report about her trying to find a bathroom and finding herself outside the arena was a false report…they’re not disclosing all of the info, for investigative purposes.
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playfulg — December 11, 2009 @ 3:37 pm
J2K – that’s a great theory. Can you see the people she was with not coming forward with her, though? Unless they were doing drugs or drinking with her, they wouldn’t have any responsibility for her condition.
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@ playfulg. . . and if they WERE, would they? and, would they make sure she still had her camera?
So where’s the body?
B
*17th post entire*
going back to J2K’s #2012 post, and assuming for A SECOND that rather than ride around in a car all night smoking and/or drinking, she went to a party with some “friends”: #1 where would students most likely meet up to party? a local hotel? abandoned buildings somewhere? a local back road? students in my area tend to meet up in a wooded area near a State campground. . . back at JMU from whence they came?
localcvillegirl? do you have any ideas of local party hot spots?
What about DJ’s?
B
localcvillegirl post snipped:
I still feel that Morgan texted someone who was still at the house where they’d been partying before the concert, and was planning on returning to the party with this guy. BB player along for the ride or not. As far as we know, the planning for this whole trip was done in Roanoke, Blacksburg, and Harrisonburg…maybe with the help of someone who lives in this area. I can only hope that the friends and driver boy are talking to LE, and that other VT and JMU friends, and friends from concerts, e.g., (Morgan’s other life?) are being sought out and questioned, too. This beautiful girl deserves to be found.
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still feel that Morgan texted someone who was still at the house where they’d been partying before the concert, and was planning on returning to the party with this guy. . . .
Tarheel?
Not Tarheel, but I agree with you.
B
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@ Yoshi & Counselor 4u: local comments immediately following MHs disappearance (a couple days after and BEFORE everyone close stopped talking) were that she was at a party. Not sure if before or after the concert. IF after, and if Econolodge comments ring true, should be easy enough for LE to find out who was in rooms. . . or at least who booked them and go from there. Econolodge is a stones throw from JPJ. Look at google maps.
Blink, I am again posting some of OYE’s comments, as Chad and others expressed interest. I hope this okay. I do not want to hijack the thread.
Also, OYE if you’re still lurking, I hope you will join in again. I know you would have never came to this site unless you wanted to help Morgan.
Mosiac, just want to say you were right I was wrong, sometimes we have to take a step back ya know?
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/12/16/morgan-harrington-case-virginia-state-police-on-new-search/#comments
(only post on this thread: post in its entirety:)
OPEN YOUR EYES — December 17, 2009 @ 3:08 pm
um not sure where the photo came from above, but not a very good photoshop job. . .
If your suggesting I photoshopped it you would be wrong. What looks photoshopped?
B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/11/20/morgan-harrington-case-separating-fact-from-fiction-from-facebook-part-ii/#comments
(Posts by OYE on this thread * post is one referencing camp ground)
# Comment by OPEN YOUR EYES — December 9, 2009 @ 12:53 pm
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=9576645&op=4&o=global&view=global&subj=162224546575&id=505480153
ok sorry to say this, but she looks so totally sick and out of place in this photo. . .she definitely had something going on. ..that, coupled with the over-surveillance by parents, overdrawn bank account (of girl whose family is NOT struggling), I need help with my homework, transfer from high school in Senior year (WHO does THAT??) SHE WAS DEF STRUGGLING with something. Notice there are no NEW FRIENDS from the high school to which she transferred. . .once someone is into a “scene” that people don’t approve of, first thing friends do is try to help. If the “struggling” person refuses, sooner or later, friends eventually write them off because it is just too frustrating to deal with. Parents deny “this doesnt happen to us”, “she would never do that” “this is someone else’s fault” blah, blah & try to deal with it quietly.
Also–I have it on good info that MH was told “not to get drunk at that party”. I dont know if the party was before the concert, or maybe one to which she went after leaving the arena. . .If that is true perhaps scenario was this: MH “I cant get back in, I’m going to get a ride to X LOCATION for the party” SS: “Ok well then dont get drunk, etc” MH “yeah, WTF ever, dont worry about it” After concert, no Morgan, so SS & Company are like “I told her not to. . . .we can’t wait on her forever” EXIT SS & Company. Meanwhile, MH partied it up at X LOCATION, she OD’s, partiers freak and she is left in some unknown location.
If you notice the language of mom about the outfit: “she was covered” before concert, her mom’s constant referral to her as “our baby”, etc. they were not ready for Morgan to grow up. Morgan seems to have broken out of the shelter, and, unfortunately, most likely to her detriment. There may be a BG, but there was DEF a BGIRL too, IMHO.
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sleuthing involves gathering information from various sources as the opportunity arises and sometimes in situations that does not permit a thorough interrogation. And, sometimes you happen on information that, at the time it is gained, the significance is not apparent at that particular time, but reveals itself later. no?
Also, i would point out that i did not say Morgan was using DRUGS. ..those were YOUR WORDS, my dear. I said she was STRUGGLING WITH SOMETHING
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Call BS if you want. . . it doesn’t change the info. I know what I know. Just because I wont give you a name, address, phone number of the source on the INTERNET is laughable.
OK — back on topic —
I decided to do a search on that poor girl that was found behind the Mcdonald’s in zions crossroads — the local tv station did an interview w/ her best friend and people posted comments — I’ll put the link in — but one of the comments was:
>>She was a drug addict. Shannon will tell you. <<<
I do not think that “Shannon” is SGM Shannon — but maybe “Shannon is the same “Shannon” who posted about Morgan —
I haven’t read all the comments yet, but here’s the link — her facebook page looks like it has been taken down — she has no friends except 2 on the front page —
http://www.topix.net/forum/source/wtvr/T8UGQAJOEH6DCD10C
I posted too quick on that — I’m sorry — “Shannon” is “Shannon Miller” Kristan’s best friend who jumped all over that poster — but — if you go down the forum, there’s a post which says Kristan was friends w/ another person who is a known drug user —
Blink, close your eyes — remember, my friend said this “ring” extends very wide —
Still waiting on the GOF — when I’m done, I’m going to donate it to the local high school’s library — after I make my kid read it and give me a book report — I’ll bribe him w/ money — ha
shoot — I hit submit comment too quick
but if you read thru — the same thing that happened to this poor girl may have happened to Morgan —
The Sheriff was saying that even though this “acquaintances” took her to the hospital, where she was unresponsive upon admission, they didn’t call 9-1-1 or call for help as opposed to just taking her and dumping her off at the hospital ER —
Kristan and Morgan may have absolutely nothing in common but — her two friends panicked and didn’t call 9-1-1 —
maybe that’s what OYEs is trying to tell us — people panicked and didn’t call for help
and some of the same comments are Morgan’s comments: friends don’t leave friends, etc., etc., etc., as the King himself said — no, not Elvis : )
Sorry about the double posts Blink. I have having some technical difficulties. Feel free to delete them if you can from your end…. I can’t seem to see them until much later….
#772 Acho, Hello, Wow I missed that you were having nightmares about the camp ground. I’m sorry if bringing this back up isn’t good.
I don’t know if that is why OYE chose that name, or if that is why she began posting. I do know she didn’t post on at least 3 previous threads, and that she didn’t chime in on that thread, until after your conversation, the lyrics and others conversation about possible drug use/party spots or body placement. I hoped she would come back,and help us to move forward, and answer the questions she can or will.
I am not sure if she knew anything except murmuring from friends.
I do know that she seemed to have ideas that have become more plausible as time has passed, and that she may have been trying to think aloud as we all are, in order to help Morgan, her friends and her town. I think like some of us she wasn’t sure how to voice her opinion without it seeming harsh.
Dang left & came back. Now won’t update!
Blink, don’t post, just trying to get some movement.
B -
Mmmm k. Well, I think I smelled what you stepped in anyway.
moon -
It seems inconsistent that they would take her flask, as she may have been judged to be seriously impaired, but they would not also confiscate the drugs in her pill bottle if not appearing to be an obvious prescription (she was still on UVA property, after all). If there were *illegal* drugs in the bottle, it would have been fairly obvious… unless she was a drug dealer (doubt it), and exposing that much product in your purse would just be stupid). I guess my point is that those door people/security see it all – and while they may not single out the majority of patrons for searches/confiscations/escorts out, they must single out some, for liability purposes if nothing else.
OK. You guys are all killing me. Seriously. Either I am going to develope a drinking problem over all these posts, or I will be forever afflicted with ADHD, best case scenario I will have both. Switching topics with great intellectual input, then turning corners, and whooz, another great post, another great topic/theory.
J2K: In regards to the purse: Well, again, as I have stated, I get a little OCD when it comes to the purse. Thanks Blink. I, really just cannot go there. The purse and I don’t jive. But you can, and you have so often, and do so well with the purse as well as other important pieces of this case make some sense of the what’s and who’s. No Frontal synaptic misfires there for you! You are our very own “purse” Oracle of Delphlink.”
(affectionately)
Also J2K: Thanks for reposting the quote about the herion comment and man stealer. I researched for that original poster but could not find it. Although you credit Shannon, that was not the original poster of the comment, that was a response. And yes, that quote was buy SGM.
Momof3: Thanks for reposting OYE posts. I visited the archives, and have started to create a file of OYE comments. Actually, I have a few of the comments copied, and was going to paste them, but you already did them same quotes.
Now, I come away with after re reading these comments again, and relecting, that yes she is in the know. The chip on her shoulder is very heavey, and even by reading it, I can feel the weight. No sure what happened there with those 2. Regardless whether it is Chelsea or Romona, it really doesn’t matter to me what the friends name is, but it really does matter that she posted and continued to post here, and I believe she does care about Morgan, regarless of her sharp edge comments.
What intrigues me, is “why” some of these friends post and throw out clues, and hints, as if we were playing some kind of a game here of hide and seek, or Monopoly.
Why post here? Go to call the tip line, and forget about us sluethers.
(Snippets from OYE)
Momof3
do not know who OYE is either. I think no one here, besides Blink, does. Although, her status is not known now, it was then. So, to a certain extent OYE has the cover of anonymity still. I agree, most people will shut down when they feel threatened. That is human nature.
0. These are the important *facts?* from OYE’s posts:
0. Morgan, instead of driving around drinking and smoking all night,went to a party before or after the concert (unknown to OYE) Some how whether from the fall or alcohol poisoning Morgan dies. The young people 18-21 panic and cover this up. Leaving Morgan to be listed as a missing person.
0. Quotes from OYE “Do you think a 18-21 year old would come forward? Or, would you hope to God that someone would eventually connect the dots?” Paraphrase- If those with her were drinking or doing drugs would they come forward …”and, would they make sure she still had her camera?”
0. “I have it on good info that MH was told “not to get drunk at that party”. I dont know if the party was before the concert, or maybe one to which she went after leaving the arena. . .If that is true perhaps scenario was this: MH “I cant get back in, I’m going to get a ride to X LOCATION for the party” SS: “Ok well then dont get drunk, etc” MH “yeah, WTF ever, dont worry about it” After concert, no Morgan, so SS & Company are like “I told her not to. . . .we can’t wait on her forever” EXIT SS & Company. Meanwhile, MH partied it up at X LOCATION, she OD’s, partiers freak and she is left in some unknown location…….and assuming for A SECOND that rather than ride around in a car all night smoking and/or drinking, she went to a party with some “friends”: #1 where would students most likely meet up to party? a local hotel? abandoned buildings somewhere? a local back road? students in my area tend to meet up in a wooded area near a State campground. . . back at JMU from whence they came?
0. I don’t know knew these tidbits to be fact or whether,she like us was just being an arm chair detective. I am hopeful that LE does read this board and they have followed up with OYE in order to find out the truth.
0. Comment by Momof3 — December 24, 2009 @ 3:39 pm
0. Forgot an important post of OYES
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0. PComment by Momof3 — December 24, 2009 @ 3:33 pm
0. Mosiac, Thank you for your kind words. I also value your contributions. Believe it or not, I also valued OYE’s posts. But, as much as I valued them, I do not think she should have been left unchecked to voice her scorn of Morgan. After all, Blink’s site is for the victims. She allows no one to disrespect the victims ,their families or one another on her site. I think that is a good thing. (keep in mind Blink told OYE she would have to respect others or she would have to boot her from the site which happened to OYE on another site))
0. I do not know who OYE is either. I think no one here, besides Blink, does. Although, her status is not known now, it was then. So, to a certain extent OYE has the cover of anonymity still. I agree, most people will shut down when they feel threatened. That is human nature.
0. These are the important *facts?* from OYE’s posts:
0. Morgan, instead of driving around drinking and smoking all night,went to a party before or after the concert (unknown to OYE) Some how whether from the fall or alcohol poisoning Morgan dies. The young people 18-21 panic and cover this up. Leaving Morgan to be listed as a missing person.
0. Quotes from OYE “Do you think a 18-21 year old would come forward? Or, would you hope to God that someone would eventually connect the dots?” Paraphrase- If those with her were drinking or doing drugs would they come forward …”and, would they make sure she still had her camera?”
0. “I have it on good info that MH was told “not to get drunk at that party”. I dont know if the party was before the concert, or maybe one to which she went after leaving the arena. . .If that is true perhaps scenario was this: MH “I cant get back in, I’m going to get a ride to X LOCATION for the party” SS: “Ok well then dont get drunk, etc” MH “yeah, WTF ever, dont worry about it” After concert, no Morgan, so SS & Company are like “I told her not to. . . .we can’t wait on her forever” EXIT SS & Company. Meanwhile, MH partied it up at X LOCATION, she OD’s, partiers freak and she is left in some unknown location…….and assuming for A SECOND that rather than ride around in a car all night smoking and/or drinking, she went to a party with some “friends”: #1 where would students most likely meet up to party? a local hotel? abandoned buildings somewhere? a local back road? students in my area tend to meet up in a wooded area near a State campground. . . back at JMU from whence they came?
… In fact, the 95-percent-sure witness may have thought MH/lookalike was trying to enter (without a ticket), when she was actually getting escorted out, with security confiscating her flask upon determining she had been drinking underage inside (putting the JPJ at risk for a steep fine or whatever). The policy may be confiscation at the discretion of the security official. Perhaps a *female* security person was the one doing the confiscating, and others eye witnesses took in this encounter as well. Perhaps LE had already questioned several eye witnesses to the incident, and thus did not need this additional witness’s account several days after the fact.
I’m not a big believer in psychics either Blink but something struck a chord with me. Going back to the pocketbook (again) and the missing camera- I don’t believe a guy would even think to look for a camera but a girl….most definitely. It is the young girls who snap away at every event in their lives- not guys. A girl would know to look for an take the camera before dumping the the bag (if we continue to speculate tat the bag was returned to JPJ arena at a later time). That somehow makes sense to me. A random guy picking her up might think to remove the battery from her phone- but the camera is a female thing- I think.
This morning’s paper:
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/crime/article/family_area_not_as_safe_as_you_think/50880/
From WCAV
http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/81291762.html
(thank you for the new links localcvillegirl)
comment by Dan Harrington from
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/crime/article/family_area_not_as_safe_as_you_think/50880/
“People don’t just vanish,” Harrington said. “We believe someone saw Morgan. We believe someone took our daughter. Someone in this community was directly involved in her disappearance. It’s important to realize that whoever took Morgan is still in this community and, because of that, Charlottesville and Albemarle County are not as safe as they were before Oct. 17.”
Why is this thought regarding community safety not coming from LE?
That is a very bold statement to make.
Are there conflicting theories between the H’s and LE?
Confused here.
Dan H:
“Albemarle County”
Just noticed the emphasis on this county.
Yet again, Albemarle County comes up.
JMO, but if the H’s believe Morgan is alive and being held somewhere, to successfully accomplish that would take accomplices, location, access, connections, and money. JMO, perhaps the perp(s) is an individual of financial means or who comes from a family of financial and influential means.
peapod (#825) said:
“Heroin use seems pretty far fetched. I lived in NYC before it became Disney-like and the heroin addicts I ran across were pretty tame and euphoric. More prone to nodding than kicking and yelling. When I was in college the ‘cool’ drugs tended to be more hallucinogenic in nature than ‘ghetto’… Personally, I think Morgan’s behavior is pretty consistent with someone who has had a lot of alcohol.”
I agree, peapod. I was just speculating on the “rumors”/OYE’s comments and trying to match them with some of the more curious/not publicly discussed aspects of the case, which may or may not even exist. I didn’t mean MH might have been on H/opiates at the show; I meant if it had been a past issue for her (an increasingly common problem in the Roanoke area amongst kids her age, according to reports), then being intoxicated, upset and separated from her friends may have been a trigger. Yes, ’tis a bit far-fetched though.
localcvillegirl re:
(http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/crime/article/family_area_not_as_safe_as_you_think)
Thanks for posting, lcg.
This quote sort of stood out:
“Police ask that anyone who might know what happened to Morgan but might be holding back because of fear of prosecution to contact them. They also ask people to report behavioral changes in anyone who attended the concert, or if they notice anyone showing abnormal interest in the disappearance.”
It’s impossible to tell if LE is fishing, or they are working a very specific angle based on info they have (obvs undisclosed to the public). My heart wants to go with the latter… but me mind fears it may be the former. *sigh*