Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Plea Sans Adjudication In Court Today
Orlando, FL– By this afternoon, we could see Casey Marie Anthony convicted of up to 13 felony counts in the fraud trial scheduled for today at 1:30PM EST. Live Link
Over the last week, the legal wranglings, sentencing hypotheticals and LexisNexis databases where burning up the skype accounts of all the legal analysts in Or Lawn Do. I experienced it first-hand as I was in town last week:It was palpable.
According to sources speaking on the condition of anonymity to blinkoncrime.com, the plea negotiations between the State and Jose Baez, defense counsel for Casey Anthony in this matter, broke down over the amount of felonies she would agree to plead to, and the matter of adjudication. WFTV analyst Bill Schaeffer does a nice job discussing the importance from a legal perspective, here.
The afternoon face off between Linda Drane Burdick, Jeff Ashton and the defense team for Casey Anthony is expected to seek Judge Stan Strickland’s ruling on her sentencing and the issue of withholding adjudication which is the anticipated position of her defense.
Simply stated, there is no basis given the known facts of the case to argue that Casey’s actions constituted a necessity, agreement from the wronged party or victim, or any as yet unknown to us allegations such as needing cash for the nanny or kidnapping ransom.
While the defense does have a strong argument to be made that Ms. Anthony is a first time offender and Judge Strickland has already indicated that he will treat her accordingly, I have a suggestion for the State.
I submit aquiring tacky white sunglasses through fraudulent, felonies means, using said stolen property to perpetuate further fraudulent activity, followed by wearing them to your attorney’s office after you have been arrested for same, constitutes a spree. Adjudicate at will.
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Kathi Belich at WFTV was allowed to watch the 12 minute video WITH AUDIO, that Hoover filmed of Dominic poking around in the woods — but WFTV was only allowed to copy portions of the video with NO AUDIO.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/12/ng.01.html
NANCY GRACE
Video Shows PI`s Search of Caylee Remains Site Months Before Body Was Found
Aired January 12, 2009
KATHI BELICH, WFTV: Well, I watched 12 minutes` worth of video, listened to it. There is audio that tape. We were not permitted to record it. We were permitted to record about a minute-and-a-half of the video. But I heard on that video — at a point where you`re seeing the concrete blocks at the scene, I heard Dominic Casey, the Anthonys` private eye, say, It would be right here. The man who shot that video, private eye Jim Hoover, says that Dominic Casey told him that Caylee was dead and they were going to
find her, and that`s what they were doing in that area on November 15th and November 16th.
GRACE: So Kathi, we have some of the video, but you saw the whole thing and you could hear it. You were disallowed from reproducing the audio.
BELICH: I heard him say, It would be right here. And I listened to it again and again. And we were watching it on a big monitor and I stood with my ear right next to the speaker and then away from it. I listened to it several times so that I was sure. And what he says is, It would be right here.
MsE
I agree with you, a ratings/fame hound like Geraldo is a much better fit than a mobster type. casey may have gotten around but I just don’t see her being all cozy in Orlando with some kingpin.
_ up and coming’ Hispanic’ lawyer, poor railroaded single mom_ I think one ambulance chaser journalist could start drooling over the potential…He might be able to reprise his all time ratings stature. Me thinks he made a poor choice, NEITHER one of them are the least bit sympathetic and I don’t even think a makeover could help, the minute either of them open their mouth most people want to throw things
JH~ I second that motion! B Spill It!
I remember when Geraldo was covering the OJ case, he said he would never go back on TV if OJ was found not guilty. So much for being a man of his word. I also recall that initially Baez said he was the first Hispanic lawyer involved in a high profile case and the public was prejudice against him. Geraldo had to straighten Baez out on the first Hispanic lawyer thing.
Blink, thank you for offering your time and experience. I love this site. It is therapeutic and yet dis-hearting to read. We all have a past, and we all have an invested concern about the outcome of justice this baby and others deserves. Thank you.
Ada
regarding geraldo straightening out baez about the first hispanic to do a high profile crime. Do you have the link to that? please
TIA
here is a video of Geraldo and Dominic Casey when the search video was first released.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_sEh-hVZcA
Pamela
First of all hello! I realy enjoy your postings and little tidbits that you give us that were given you. I hope that this all breaks soon and we the interested parties for justice! will get our answer. Baez seemed very nervous in his last court appearance. I think by now he is begining to feel insecure and fearful of his future as an attorney. In his eagerness and arrogance for fame he has made many non-professional errors and now they are slowly coming back to bite him in the butt. I want justice for caylee like everyone else here. I hope and I pray that the anthonys too will fall from grace at every turn they take. I sincerely hope people that donate to that phoney foundation! began to remove the scales from their eyes and stop the sending of money.
I reallly!!! want cindy to be held accountable for her inappropiate actions and inuendos and vemon spits. I hope we began to see the wheels of justice turn. most of all to see The money the A’S are making come to a screeching halt. These people have tried t throw everyone under the bus and if that didnt work they would look for other victims to target. That is pure evil on their part all to protect the evil sociopath that they created. Cindy too is a sociopath that delites in the attack on innocent people. If casey friends didnt support casey cindy turned on them with a how dare you attitude. I am reminded of the nasty message she left for tim miller on his voicemail.
I hope and pray that she gets her due along with anyone in her corner.
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE.
we love you caylee
THANKS! soulsister says:
February 7, 2010 at 4:08 pm
here is a video of Geraldo and Dominic Casey when the search video was first released.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_sEh-hVZcA
Geraldo said that Dominic had “maps and graphs” to look in that area (that is NOT just a “tip” from a psychic!
Brad Conway says the video is property of the Anthonys, because they hired Dominic …. but they did NOT hire Jim Hoover who owned the video camera and who took the video. Brad focuses on how horrible it was that Hoover allegedly wanted to sell the video … while Brad totally evades questioning about WHO sent Dominic out there to that specific spot and WHO Dominic was on the phone with.
Here is an interesting comment on that YouTube site:
adijaysgirl
i can’t even watch geraldo anymore without feeling bulimic, i have to run to the bathroom & puke afterwards. geraldo talks about people being greedy? although i believe that hoover is a shady individual himself, i don’t believe he demanded money from geraldo. the video was already given to channel 9 for free, and was already on the internet. why ask for money for something already out there? geraldo made that up to help feed doubt & aid the defense. geraldo is baez’ biatch.
I started watching the video posted by soulsister today at 4:08 pm -
Brad Conway saying he and the Anthony’s think it is “just despicable” that anyone is making money off Caylee’s death – what a sack of crap!
I may have watched Geraldo years ago – but never again. I doubt he gets any respect from honest journalists / reporters. I hope he gets his.
here is a video of Geraldo and Dominic Casey when the search video was first released. (Thanks soulsister!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_sEh-hVZcA
At 2:51 minutes on the video – Brad says the video is “our property”, but the irony is that he has yet to see the video! As it is playing on Geraldo’s show.
At 3:04 minutes – Geraldo says: Now here’s my question for you Brad – we are told that Dominic Casey had specific information, even GRAPHICS AND MAPS that led him to this area, where of course, dramatically, almost four weeks later, the little body was found.” Why was he there? Who gave you that inside information? Did you have any admissions from the accused mother, 22 year old Casey Anthony? What brought you to this specific place, of all the places on earth? Brad Conway?
NOTE: Kathi Belich is on Nancy Grace the same day that Geraldo is talking to Brad Conway about the video, Jan 12, 2009, saying she saw and HEARD the same video that Geraldo is saying Hoover tried to “sell”. Kathi said her station, WFTV, was allowed to record a small portion of the 12 minute video, with NO AUDIO recorded. (FREE of course)
#4 Chica
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/01/anthony-attorney-jose-baez-def.html
“Baez also claimed that reporters saying these things will get what is coming to them, but that not all reporters are like this.
He pointed out that he is the first Hispanic to have a national case like this, and he wants to pass on a positive legacy for future Hispanic lawyers.”
Any self respecting Hispanic lawyer should steer clear of any association with Baez. Guilt by association and all !
ada
thank you for the speedy reply. What about what you were talking about gerlado firing back at baez
where is that located at?
TIA
Chica
Nauseated
your so right! but I have a feeling that he will be dethroned if he continues He’s wet behind the ears and it’s starting to mold back there.
He desperately needs an attitude adjustment and humbling experience. This case went to his head!! oviously did major swelling of the arrogant gland!!!
I agree with you guys. I am hispanic myself and in no way do I condone behaviours of baez and gerlado. I think they both are arrogant and publicity seeksers. I do not like to watch! geraldo at large what a buncha cow poop!! I am for the right of others that have been wronged to me I could care less of they were of my culture wrong is wrong no matter what race you are. they need to get off that kick and down to reality and humility and do what the law requires.
thinker your welcome!!
here is, I believe, the actual video of Dominic Casey searching for a refresh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T04rfgU5E8A
Thinker! “geraldo is baez’ biatch” Ha ha ha . . . I’m proud that I’ve never seen one episode of Geraldo. But I have seen clips of him on YouTube etc. He is just another cheating, lying shyster who uses too much hair jelly.
I am sick, sick sick of the “1st Hispanic”, first anything!!!! Either you’re a lawyer or you’re not.
Chica~ you crack me up girl!
I love “this case went to his head!! obviously did major swelling of the arrogant gland”
Maybe if this lawyer gig doesn’t pan out he could manufacture Baez Bobbleheads. I’d buy one.
Whoops! I just realized I broke a blog rule and made fun of Geraldo’s hair and called him a shyster. Sorry. I’ll be more careful.
( Blink looks the other way this time)
B
Lol MJ
we have to have humor to get us thru this mess. I go to bed each nite raying for justice fr caylee.
Di your so right it has little to do with the hispanic crapola!!!
http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=3627
If Casey Anthony didn’t kill Caylee, then who is looking for the killer?
Posted by Melissa Finlay On February – 6 – 2010
blink – I for one do not believe for a second that Caylee is the product of incest. My education is in psych, and I don’t see the indicators’ in the family.
I also don’t think there is a chance in Hell that the Anthony’s would give up either child support or social security benefits. They have been a money grubbing family for decades, on the verge of bankruptcy several times, and I think even did bankrupt once. I also don’t believe Casey would be stealing if she could get some form of support for Caylee legally. I believe there is a dark secret here, but not incest. Do you have any thoughts on this at this time? Could this be part of the big deal hush hush. I’m getting a local vibe that the skeleton is about to fall from the closet on several issues, and this could be one of them.
Thanks
All the money and fame and notoriety that the A’S make will not bring peace to them. If they so thought caylee was in puerto rico than thats where they should have cruised tooo. Excuse me! Hello! Hola! the boat didnt go no where near there.
Are they gonna say next well we thought we were enroute to puerto rico but realy its not our fault(never is) we werent manning the cruise. And the person that sold us our tickets is at fault. So were gonna sue them NOT.
not once did they make attempts to look where they thought she was. because they knew she wasnt there. Than they hire inspector gadget!!dominic)with his big over sized magnifying glass and high powered flashlight!! looking for clue to go snooping in the woods like tarzan in search of caylees remains which they knew were there somewhere. What they bribed him with crab puffs!! I cant understand how in the world they could of sat together breaking bread while caylees skeletonized remains were being found. I have grandkids and if that was my grandaughter omg I would have to be sedated and institutionalized long enough to absorb the reality. but these folks have acted nuts its all been nuts from caseys lawyer to the anthonys lawyers to the grandparents to lee laughing like a hyena. last night I spent time on youtube listening to some of the case videos. I came cross Tracy Mclaughlins interviews !!! her inappropiate laughing. How can anyone laugh at something so serious as this pleeeze help me jesus because sometimes I wish I could reach through my monitor and grab cindys neck! (providing shes on her computer) I am sure she burns rubber on it going to and fro to gather information. I have seen this story from day 1 and all the people they have tried to throw under the bus. Weird dont get it.
I just want justice .
Blink
I hope I didnt cross the line with the post! ya know inspector so and so and the rest. I tried to be careful.
have a good day
and I want you to know that I can take constructive criticism if I am wrong
smiles have a blessed day stay safe!!
chica
JAIL VISITS in relation to KC visits with Baez and other
defense attorneys and the preacher,around the time Dominic is searching in woods, and the time that the FBI
has the video of Dominic searching, and around the time of the interview where Cindy looks majorly drugged
- Dominic in woods Nov 15 and 16th and 2 other times (unknown)
- Hoover shows Leonard P the Dominic searching video Dec 16th or 17th
- FBI takes video next day Dec 17th or 18th
- Leonard says on Nancy Grace that Hoover showed him the Dominic searching video
on Dec. 29, 2008 (now the public knows about the video)
Jan 12, 2009 – Kathi Belich/WFTV and Geraldo are showing parts of the Dominic searching video to the public
- Cindy looks drugged on video Nov. 21, 2008 (she later told LE that SHE sent “someone” to look in the woods in November)
VISITS BY PASTOR
- Thomas Shane Stutzman – preacher visits KC
Oct 24, 2008 (ONE MINUTE)
Dec 5, 2008 (2 hours)
Dec 16, 2008 (3 hours – day that Hoover shows Leonard P the Dominic searching video)
(did Cindy ask preacher to go visit KC?)
Dec 19, 2008 (20 minutes – day after FBI takes Dominic
searching video)
NO OTHER “Jail Ministries” visits
VISITS BY BAEZ (and other Defense attys) – around the day Dominic is in woods searching (Cindy sent him there)
Nov 7, 2008 Baez (10:29pm to 11:18pm – 45 min)
Nov 7, 2008 Baez (4:59pm to 6:26pm – 1 1/2 hrs) – second visit same day
Nov 9, 2008 atty Garcia (7:00pm to 2:45am the NEXT DAY Nov 10th – 8 HOURS!!!)
[5 days later Dominic is in the woods searching]
Nov 10, 2008 Baez (9:17pm to 10:21pm – 1 hr)
Nov 11, 2008 atty Garcia or “jail ministries”? (7:03pm to 9:30pm – 2 1/2 hrs)
Nov 12, 2008 Baez (6:45pm to 8:20pm – almost 2 hours)
Nov 13, 2008 Baez (10:49pm to 11:43pm – 1 hour); AND Atty Garcia (11:28pm to 11:43pm-15 min)
Nov 15, 2008 Baez (4:55pm to 6:05pm -1 hr) – Dominic is in woods this day
Nov 18, 2008 Baez (7:15pm to 8:49pm- 1 hr+)
Nov 19, 2008 Baez (7:09pm to 8:50pm – 2 hrs); AND Atty Garcia (7:11pm to 8:50pm -same 2 hrs)
Nov 23, 2008 – Atty Garcia (10:53pm to next day?) (Cindy looks drugged on the 21st)
Nov 25, 2008 Baez (8:31pm to 9:30pm – 1 hr)
Nov 26, 2008 Baez (8:30pm to 9:27pm – 1 hr)
Nov 29, 2008 Atty Garcia (8:07am to 10:31am – 2 1/2 hrs)
Nov 30, 2008 Baez (5:07pm to 6:53pm – 2 hrs)
Dec 8, 2008 Atty Adam (8:47pm to 10:04pm – 1 hr+)
Dec 9, 2008 Atty Adam (8:45pm to 9:36pm – 1 hr)
Dec 10, 2008 Atty Adam (9:44pm to 4:39am NEXT DAY -Dec 11th – 7 HOURS
[Caylee FOUND - Dec 11th - Did they know Caylee would be found next day?]
Dec 11, 2008 – KC had visitors for 11 hours of 24 hours in the day – Caylee found about 9:30am
Atty Adam (night before at 9:44pm to 4:39am on the 11th – 7 HOURS)
Baez (11:55am to 1:33pm – 1 1/2 hrs)
Atty Garcia (4:43pm to 8:23pm – almost 4 hrs)
Baez again (8:04pm to 9:05pm – 1 hr)
Dec 14, 2008 Atty Garcia again (10:27pm to 11:32pm – 1 hr)
(my break in listing all visitors)
Dec 17, 2008 Baez visits again, a WEEK after Caylee found! (10:31pm to 11:07pm) – the day that Hoover shows LP the video of Dominic searching in woods – FBI takes video next day
Dec 18, 2008 Atty Garcia 6:40am to 7:35am – 1 hr)
same day – Atty Adam (7:07am to 8:22am – 1 1/2 hr)
Dec 19, 2008 Atty Garcia (11:41 to 3:21pm – 3 1/2 hrs) – FBI has the Dominic searching video now
same day – preacher Thomas Stutzman visits (1:59pm to 2:18pm – 20min)
same day – Baez visits (2:32pm to 3:21pm – 1 hr after preacher visits)
same day – Atty Adam visits (8:56pm to 9:49pm – 1 hr)
Dec 22, 2008 (8:04pm to 9:28pm – 1 1/2 hrs) before Christmas
Dec 26, 2008 (8:25pm to 9:18pm – 1 hr) after Christmas
Pamela
You are doing it again! You say something, but leave us all hanging!
Well, I have no idea who Caylee’s bio dad might be, but it would make me do a happy dance down the block if his identity was revealed. So many things have been distorted by the A’s. It’s time for that slap of reality to hit them right between the eyes. A little tv face time for a family who might actually care that they had and lost a grandchild before they were even given a chance to know her.
Sorry – I am really not trying to be difficult. What I’m hearing is that Cindy well…. feel for Dominic Casey, she saw him as her strong saviour. Something George has never been. I think that she attached to him quickly and used him as a confidant, to secure his emotional ties to her and the “family”. I believe that Casey learned how to use her “femanine wiles” on men from Cindy. Cindy wanted Dominic to make this whole “mess” go away, and I think he told her the only way he could is for Cindy to be completely honest and upfront with him about “everything” that could be potentially damaging to the Anthony’s. I don’t believe that Cindy ever tells anyone the whole truth, but she may out of desperation told Dominic more than she should have. There is a reason that they fought so desperately to apply privalege to him in regards to Cindy and George. There is a reason he didn’t want to talk to LE, and if there was work product, he could have come to the depo and just answered “work product”.
There is also a reason that the Anthony’s have been out of the media, that George was next to hostile to Cindy at the last depo, and that the State had an ex parte hearing with Judge Strickland, which from what I understand, the State would have had to produce a motion as to the reason for the ex parte for the Judge to even consider it.
Their is also, again from what little I can find out, a flurry of new investigation going on.
I am betting that Blink knows a lot about these new developments and for whatever reason isn’t ready to comment. I believe my cop buddies when they say they’ve personally seen inappropriate behavior between Casey and Jose. I didn’t understand it back then, months ago, when they also made a “Joke” about how that behaviour impacts Casey’s case and the skeleton’s that are involved.
Again, this is all subject to my own interpretation off of a small amount of info from a few sources, and my “reading” of the Anthony’s and their behaviours.
Pamela — there is one thing that Cindy may value over money, and that is control. If there was a father in the picture, or even just family of a deceased father, Cindy would no longer have had total control over Caylee and Casey. That, my friend, would be intolerable to her. In addition, I don’t believe that SS could have just taken the A’s word for it that the father was deceased and Caylee should receive benefits. They would have required proof. IMO the biggest reason Cindy did not try to get custody is that there would have been an investigation to check out the A’s and other living relatives, ie the father and his family, so see who was best suited to care for Caylee if Casey was proven an unfit.
When did Caey first meet Baez ? I do not believe July 2008 was their first meeting.
What was their relationship at that time ?
Chica, #23 at 105pm—liked your post hello! hola! The cruise ship sure missed that area of the world. And just personal opinion, the A’s were out of town and eating crabpuffs when Caylee was found. That was kind of “hinky” to me. And if I remember correctly, they were at the “buffet” when the news hit the networks about Caylee. I am like you Chica, I sure wouldnt be eating or anything else but being sedated in some way to get thru that. But that’s what normal people would do. And no one in that family is normal, except the greatgrandma and Cindy’s brother I imagine. Also, agreeing here Chica–there they were cruising like they didnt have a care in the world, and those tattoos, and ear piercings. I am sorry but if I didnt have a job, I would not be spending my money on tats and piercings. In my opinion they are just a tad too old for that!!!! and Cindy lounging in that black bikini like she was twenty—-sorry Blink—I know its Florida but GEEZ. I am sure when Casey found out or saw pics she blew a cork!!!!!!—-waa, waa, what about me? I know everything has been said on the cruise subject but just had to vent.
I do however think that D Casey has made a deal and is in protective hiding–and that something big will be hitting the fan soon and might just stick to the wall.
“27.MJ says:
February 8, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Well, I have no idea who Caylee’s bio dad might be”
why dont we know this yet?
I know it has nothing to do with the charges but why don’t we know?
Does anyone? and if not how come?
that is so sad……a child with no one in her corner…no one but strangers…
Thanks Pamela! It almost makes me feel sorry for Cindy….a little bit.
Nauseated – IIRC Casey was friends with a relative of Baez’. They may have been introduced at one time. I think that Baez may have been quite taken with Casey then, but she was not in need of a lawyer at the time of that meeting, nor in need of an older man as a boyfriend. When she was arrested, perhaps she remembered Baez was an atty. who could possibly help her out and gave him a call. Of course, Baez jumped at the chance without hesitation. This is all speculation on my part – my theory put together by some things that I’ve read, but it seems plausable that Baez thought he could get Casey out of this jam, get close to her in the process and then when he came out of the clouds for a little bit, realized that maybe he bit off more than he could chew. JMHO
31.martha says:
February 8, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Wow Martha you may have a point there about dominic being in protective custody so that the Anthonys nor baez Can persuade him different. I have a feeling that we are going to see large splatters of poop hitting the fan here soon and it aint gonna smell like no rose thats fur sure!!!
ya know Martha aint many in that family that have a lick of sense or are in touch with reality exceptin fur Shirley Plasea (cindys mom) and yes of course brother (Rick) delivered a large cow trying to talk sense into cindy (didnt work)For a moment there looked like george was gonna do the right thing but than I am sure cindy grabbed him by his you know whats!! and ears and told him if he wanted to have a roof over his head and go on more cruises and enjoy more crab puffs he better do as told.
I couldnt even think of food if I were in their shoes !! I dont think I could function properly under such stress and grief.
They have fought everyone that tried to help them find caylee because as long as caylee was not found the gravy train flowed like lava from a volcano. They have grown acustomed to the good life at the expense of their grandaughters death. Sad how they have made total fools of themselves. I pray that they are all exposed and of course that dominic sings like a wounded canary!! and tells it all every stinking nasty little and big details!! with Lots proof and evidence to support what he says. hopefully all the hank panky between baez and casey will be validated and their little princess spends the rest of her life behind bars. Or the needle whichever she gets. All the fuss they made about puerto Rico and not once did they go there to look!! they were to busy shoving people under the bus left and right. Got kinda crowded under there!! Justice for caylee!!
Pamela
I trully enjoy reading your post with what tidbits of info you give us. I hope your right and I have a feeling that you just may have hit the nail on the head. The anthonys are very hush hush oh to be a fly on the wall in their home.
If what you say is true I am thinking that even baez is getting a little nervous because he does have alot to loose! his license his wife his bread and butter!! Now Iam just speculating if that is the case. I have been sickened by baez’s arrogance and the cindys constant attack on folks that didnt agree with her or her daughter and that includes former friends of caseys. She went after them with malice to dig up dirt on them ! when the real culprit sat behind bars eating her curds and whey.
Dee
Hi my friend how are you. Hey who knows who the baby daddys is and honestly I dont think casey knows herself. He may not even be dead that could just be one of cindys methods of controlling the situation.
That does sadden me because little caylee deserved one parent that loved her. But look at it this way when you get sad about it!! she is out of that household and in the arms of jesus. safe and secure from all harm in his sheltering arms.
allright goodnight all
tomorow is a new day !
hopefully we will hear something new that will lift our spirits.
Dee A lockdown on the the daddy’s identity is par for the course with these guys. Either kc wouldn’t tell mama to screw the old biddy or cindy knows but bristles at having anybody putting their two cents in about anything.
Cindy has said she knows, she has said she doesn’t remember, she has said her former atty. drew up papers and he didn’t claim her or some garbage like that, so.. true to Anthony form, the truth of the matter is that amid all the other pressing issues at hand it’s shelved.
In all reality the guy doesn’t know or more likely he is one of the guys that was killed and his family may not know. If they do know or have an inkling, with facing the foul mouth that Cindy has on her they may be choosing to stay out of her line of fire. I’m hoping that one day they will make a move and put the A’s to shame. It’s so sad that they elect to unconditionally support kc. They could still love her, support her but to turn their back on Caylee and why she is gone is horrible.
I believe that they have opted to believe that Caylee would want them to use her death as a springboard for income and most definitely back kc in her bid for freedom. The poor baby is gone forever and they can endlessly tell themselves that Caylee would be happy they are paying their bills, happy that they can pay for kc’s snacks, happy that they can vacation etc. etc. They are bottom feeders and will always justify their vile actions with the bassackwards way they think.
Change of topic, unsubstantiated comment on a blog that Cindy loaned a car to Holly Gagne when she moved out. Not that this is important at all, but it does, if true, show the kind of relationship these good neighbors have. The kind of relationship that might be close enough to let out some thoughts, worries, some comments about the situation of missing Casey and Caylee, returned Casey and missing Caylee.
What better way to ensure that the friends confidentialities are protected, than to use the one and same lawyer, where law enforcement might want to question a close friend, for statements heard from Cindy during those earliest days, when she might state something about ‘losing both girls on this one’ (this statement blurted out to one not so close woman friend).
If Cindy did confide in Holly, or if Holly overheard things that would go to Cindy’s beliefs or concerns about the well-being of Caylee and about Casey’s serious situation, what position would this put Brad Conway in? He would never want to have Gagne be open about what she heard if it went against client No.1, Cindy and the joint defense of Casey.
kleat, at the risk of starting any rumor, do you think that Holly might be the reason for the recent motion?
What do make of it?
Kleat….do over on my last post! The original question still stands, do you think holly could want to trade info or were her charges too inconsequential for plea/reduction?
And I would think it would be a dicey situation for Conway if she had info and wanted to tell or inadvertantly slipped up. That’s the roll of the dice Conway has to live with , in my very non-legal opinion, having Cindy as a client is potentially dangerous, add in the quasi co defense position he assumes and now defending Gagne, seems a little convuluted, so what else is new.
# 40 Kleat, Conway would be in a position to somewhat control both clients, would he not? Might be an enviable position.
Then again, both clients ate often uncontrollable. HG seems a wild card. Cindy… well, good luck wresting control away from her.
Conway must need fame very badly. Didn’t he lose a race for a political office before he got involved in this mess? Does anybody recall if he said he was defending the Anthonys pro bono?
About Caylee’s daddy. It’s always bothered me that they didn’t go after daddy support or SS payments, or any other kind of state aid for Casey and Caylee seeing they’re always in debt. To prove a specific male as sperm donor, wouldn’t the Anthonys have had to play “guess the daddy” game along with Casey?
“Let’s see, Sweetheart, who have you lined up next to accuse…er test?” Kind of hurtful to that spotless Anthony image since there were likely to be so many unwilling candidates.
I know Casey is a braggart, but didn’t she tell Kio Marie of many sexcapades with a number of men? Inflated numbers probably, but still worrisome for picking out a daddy from the roster.
Yet, Lee states he knows who Caylee’s father is, but will never tell! Tease! I thought Lee intimated that the daddy was a friend of his who had come down to Orlando to visit him and this friend and Casey “hooked” up. (Love that expression. I sort of always picture any coupling involved would have included a block and tackle.)
Of course, it could have been Cindy elaborating on the many fathers, it’s been such a long and colorful drama all around and it’s hard to keep the scenes straight. Sort of like one of those endless theatrical epics for which you have to attend in three-night stages.
Still, I am sure if Casey got some kind of help from any agency, LE knows about it. Would a father’s name have to be on papers for every kind of aid to dependent children? I wouldn’t think so. And it must vary from state to state.
Casey didn’t have any money. And she couldn’t have collected unemployment benefits because she would have had to have been employed at some time recently, and then she’d have had to look for work for the unemployment to continue. Not bloody likely. She was too busy to work, are you #$%^*&@ kidding me?
The whole baby daddy mystery is one I’d like to see solved, too. Although, I don’t think it’s matters much, now, except all the stories about it just prove what unmitigated liars they all are. Fatal accidents, benign trust funds, half siblings, another family — no doubt royal! Poor Caylee.
Those Anthonys are a funny folk.
Lee on Cay;ee’s daddy:
<< Regarding Caylee’s father’s identity, Lee continued, “Well, if I know, she’s [Casey's] gotta know… she told me…”
And to this day Lee believes everything his sister tells him.
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m3d11-Video–Lee-Anthony-admits-knowing-identity-of-Caylees-father
Chica, I just have all these thoughts on what is going down–no proof just speculation but I think D Casey is a big factor. I think the doodoo will hit the fan soon or I hope so. Also, one thing I try to do and I know others do the same—-is read EVERYTHING Blink says in bold type–whether I understand it or not. Unfortunately she cant tell us everything she knows. We are all anxious to hear. I have tons of OMG moments from all you good posters everyday.
We keep trying to get an estimate and can’t.. Apparently no one has been tracking it!
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From: Claudknow@aol.com
To: Belich, Kathi (CTV-Orlando)
Sent: Tue Feb 02 12:58:09 2010
Subject: Casey Anthony
Dear Kathi:
I would like to voice my concern with the Casey Anthony case. I have a question about just
how much the taxpayers of the state of Florida have spent on this case so far. If you can help
answer my question it is appreciated. I don’t understand why it is taking so long? Stalling
for the Anthony team? How much does it cost to open the doors turn on the lights, transport
Ms Anthony, each time we are in court for nothing more than a she did he didn’t. If there
is nothing you can help me with maybe someone can direct me to the right resource because
I am more than willing to research this. Just a concerned citizen of the state of Florida.
Sincerely,
C. Knowles
Here is the repsonse I received back from Kathi Belich.
I guess I will try and look at Caseys jail log and see what
I can come up.
This case is so different than most because of all the “characters” involved. There have been so many twists and turns and so much confusion, but the most confusing to me is just what all of you have mentioned.First, I am not shocked by the Anthony’s cover up- I know people who will lie for their children about anything just to be sure noone thinks bad of their child (it doesn’t work, but they still try).
What I can’t understand is that the Anthony’s don’t visit their daughter in jail…..why?
George pierced his ears for Casey, gets a tattoo for Caylee- Cindy gets a tattoo for Caylee- why wouldn’t they run to the jail and show Casey? Why would they go on a cruise while their daughter is sitting in jail? Why do they constantly say they are behind their daughter but continuously show signs of not being behind her?
It is obvious they know there isn’t a “killer babysitter” out there- They knew Casey didn’t really have a job- who claimed Caylee as a dependent at the end of each year? There are so many questions that can easily be answered. What I can’t seem to understand is why Cindy and George are so scared of Casey. She has already taken Caylee away from them- what else does she have to take?
Nosey- Maybe because they cannot look her in the eyes knowing their granddaughter died at her mother’s hands!