Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Plea Sans Adjudication In Court Today
Orlando, FL– By this afternoon, we could see Casey Marie Anthony convicted of up to 13 felony counts in the fraud trial scheduled for today at 1:30PM EST. Live Link
Over the last week, the legal wranglings, sentencing hypotheticals and LexisNexis databases where burning up the skype accounts of all the legal analysts in Or Lawn Do. I experienced it first-hand as I was in town last week:It was palpable.
According to sources speaking on the condition of anonymity to blinkoncrime.com, the plea negotiations between the State and Jose Baez, defense counsel for Casey Anthony in this matter, broke down over the amount of felonies she would agree to plead to, and the matter of adjudication. WFTV analyst Bill Schaeffer does a nice job discussing the importance from a legal perspective, here.
The afternoon face off between Linda Drane Burdick, Jeff Ashton and the defense team for Casey Anthony is expected to seek Judge Stan Strickland’s ruling on her sentencing and the issue of withholding adjudication which is the anticipated position of her defense.
Simply stated, there is no basis given the known facts of the case to argue that Casey’s actions constituted a necessity, agreement from the wronged party or victim, or any as yet unknown to us allegations such as needing cash for the nanny or kidnapping ransom.
While the defense does have a strong argument to be made that Ms. Anthony is a first time offender and Judge Strickland has already indicated that he will treat her accordingly, I have a suggestion for the State.
I submit aquiring tacky white sunglasses through fraudulent, felonies means, using said stolen property to perpetuate further fraudulent activity, followed by wearing them to your attorney’s office after you have been arrested for same, constitutes a spree. Adjudicate at will.
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These words are in lock down. Wonder what today will prove?
“As Your Honor knows, the body of Caylee Marie Anthony was found very close to the Anthony home, and the body was found in a wooded area that if one were to search for a missing child, this is the first place you would go search. There is substantial evidence that we’ve discovered, and that’s been set forth in our brief, Your Honor, that the body or the remains of Caylee Anthony were placed there after Casey Anthony was locked up in the Orange County Correctional Facility. There is substantial evidence, and that proves, Your Honor, her innocence. That’s exculpatory evidence, it proves that somebody else placed the remains in the area where it was ultimately found.”
“There is substantial evidence that we’ve discovered”
Why was Baez WHINING at the hearing, that they were not given “everything” from prosecution (the 10% or so), when they HAVE all the evidence that proves Casey’s innocence?????
340 Thinker,
Also, Crystal stated on scaredmonkey in December, THAT SHE LIVES on HOPESPRING
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/12/19/roy-kronk-meter-reader-utility-worker-who-found-caylee-anthonys-remains-to-have-news-conference/
Crystal on December 21st, 2008 2:41 pm
“Roy doesn’t live in that neighborhood. The voice you heard on the recording to the dispatcher was the dispatcher referring to Hopespring, the street I live on.”
Lee ? He’s been so quiet. I wonder if he has taken on the black sheep roll? With kc gone, maybe he’s assumed the sponge-off-of-the-parents position which additionally comes with the perk of it’s-not-your-fault logic. I’m only guessing that he does draw salary from the CMA empire but don’t really know.
With the last confirmed sighting of Cindy’s agreement (at the trial)that Kronk, oh yes, should be looked at, it makes me shudder at the things that must be talked about in their home. Deliberate denial of facts and them seemingly being a vital part of the defense must have them excited that they have “people” that can dig up dirt on others to cast a little doubt on their princess.
Caylee wasn’t old enough to have deep opinions yet but I wonder do ANY of them ever think what she would think about all this.
I still think that kc’s remarks about abuse, both from Lee and GA, are going to play front and center at some point. Maybe they are ready to be martyrs for the cause but that’s a big burden.
What’s the deal with Dom C. and his depo? Anyone know?
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#897 Kleat <>,
Yeah, it’s a big ol’ supertanker, all right, with lots of room under it for any number of bodies. So you think the Sopranos…er…Anthonys will be sharing space with some of their cronies in crime like Jessse, Ricardo, and Kronk?
And the reason Casy blamed the mythological nanny? Why out of love, mais oui, protecting her abusive parents from their crime? Unfortunately, they forced Casey’s hand by capturing her after 31 days or the whole thing would have just blown over. Caylee — here today; gone tomorrow. What a shame, who’s to blame?
I don’t believe Casey will admit to any wrong doing of her own with Caylee. Look how long it took her to plead out to check fraud when they had her on tape committing the crime.
To blame her folks for what happened to Caylee, even if Casey says they caused the baby’s death indirectly, would necessitate Casey herself “coming clean” about something she did to Caylee. Too late for the accident story.
“I want everyone to know that I take full responsibility for Caylee’s death. Wish I could have been a better mom.” Nope. Doesn’t play in Peoria or any place else.
None of her finger-pointing in any other direction, especially toward her parents, will make sense to the jury; unless it’s an exercise to save her hide from the needle after she’s been convicted. In which case, I could easily see Casey nominating George and Cindy for public enemies #1 and #2. They made me what I am today, folks!
Is that what they’re doing, already? The defense team? Getting their proof and arguments on tap against the DP? I guess those efforts must run concurrently with “the nannie did it”,then. Casey is alone, back to the wall, in that nannie corner. It’s a mess.
MidwestMom, could it be that the dispatcher lived on Hopespring? The dispatcher being the one to say ‘…I live on.” ?
Obviously if Crystal is the person who was the ex named Crystal, she’s not even in the city or the state, IIRC.
Randie, I suspect that Baez and Casey have techniques in common. He was shut up quickly when the judge told him not to go there, then Baez agreed and said it’s not about pointing fingers yet continued to ‘go there’ at which time, the judge said that ‘it will be in a minute’. (it will be about pointing fingers at Baez and his team, in a minute. The judge seemed to be telling Baez that he’s the one who has been laying blame the whole time and they are the ones who are delaying endlessly.
Was Judge Strickland laying down the law for the defense, to play nice with the state and to do their job, not blame others, get the reciprocal discovery released to the state, or he would order it to them? Oh yeah– he did that a long time ago– gave them til today! I think the judge will comply with the state’s request for some help to get things out of the defense muck and moving again.
kiwi-bird, everyone can interpret, but I have tried to hear other things. I’m not taking anything away from Caylee, it’s only trying to understand, like everything else in this case. It’s still weird. People never heard ‘holt’ either, on one of Casey’s audio recordings with Lee from Jail, she did two, that became clear later on.
Blink, didn’t the court order that the defense share their witness list with the state? The defense argues it did already, just via the searcher statements. The defense seems to not want to put things in stone– if Casey’s prints are on the duct tape, for example, they probably don’t want to waste their money on all those witnesses and their depositions, their tactic seems to be just work to the best position possible for plea.
Note that the 10% number seemed to be new to Ms. Lyon, as she made note of that. Probably making some notes for the meeting with the state, she’s going to want that 10% before they give way to the state for anything. And the latent information still outstanding. Could be a bluff. Leaked early to be evidence of Casey’s prints, to push her to a deal. Would the defense really deal without knowing all?
Blink I’ve tried very hard but not able to find any confirmation. Different person I think.
I have a question about the napkins. I was looking at a letter on Page 9602 Karen Cowan who stated: The reason for the question and emphasis in that these hairs were found in what the entomologist/body farm is calling “death or grave wax.”
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html
Caucasian light/med brown Could this show Caylee’s or Casey’s hair?
Little Mermaid pull ups P.9675 from house and pics of them are on P.9786 The evidence shows that the pull ups that were found at the scene had teddy bears ballooning and parachuting P. 10223 Could this be a swim diaper and not a pull up? They never found that exact match.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/02/casey-anthony-there-is-no-feb-1-deadline-in-case.html
I feel like I’m in the twilight zone today. Anybody out there???
Randie, I can’t imagine what they will bring to the judge today. It’s been one thing after the next lately. At first it seemed like they wanted to use Joy W. to further the theory but I believe they’ve wisely backed off on that. The latest whirlwind of media encounters that mention Kronk seem to be the idea de jour. A jumble of innuendo and non provable junk..but hey, baez and co. are very at ease throwing garbage and wasting the court’s time, so it should be interesting.
casey is probably packing her imaginary suitcase right now, sure that the other day didn’t really mean anything and that her dream lawyer will waltz in today with jaw dropping proof that the charges against her were really just a whim and that they’re all geniuses that out smarted da man. Hate to tell her, it’s not like tv, she’s in for the long haul. Hate to tell him (baez) it’s not like tv, he better start working the case instead of manufacturing plots.
Yes, I am interested in Dom C and his depo. This would give him a chance to spill the beans for George and Cindy so they dont have to get shoved under the bus. I remember seeing his video of searching for Caylee, who goes looking for a childs body and pokes around with some kind of a pole. You dont have to even be with any kind of rescue service, that is just common sense. It seems to me that the defense is running out of scenarios and I wonder if they have any kind of time frame before they try to make anything “gel”.
It is strange about Lee (we dont ever hear anything about him) because from what Casey said—most of the time—-was that they were best buds. What does he really have going on with LE? I dont know about the rest of you, but i get tired and dizzy from spinning around with all the different defense reasons. I would like them to land on one thing or person and stick with it. Otherwise it is like Alice falling down the rabbithole. Dont have anything profound to say—just thinking out loud–sometimes you just have to vent.
Casey will do anything to save her own skin. If it means accusing her brother and/or father of abusing her – so be it. If she gets more attention because of it – all the better in her warped mind.
The Anthonys will rue the day they all rallied behind their CEO.
(Conniving Egotistical Oaf)
Also, regardless of what Caylee said in the highchair video, it still really creeped me out with Casey filming under the highchair and Caylee leaning over etc. Casey not saying anything and filming that closely to the child and not interacting like she was wanting to scare Caylee or make her feel uncomfortable–being mean.
So, where is all this big evidence the defense has to “prove” Casey is innocent and someone else placed Caylee’s remains at Suburban Drive?
Shouldn’t they have to suffer some kind of contempt for their blatant lies?
With Lyons in on the defense the poor pitiful casey and her atrocious life will come into play. But I wonder how many people will have their lives mutilated before the defense finally has to invent an accidental excuse as to why Caylee died. I think all this other stuff about Kronk and the body not being there the whole time is diversion on a max scale. At some point they’re going to have to present a scenario that has Caylee dead and casey so traumatized by her “abuse” and “fear” that she maybe blocks it out, maybe lies as her coping mechanism, blah, blah.
In the meantime, they are able to promote books, get out of trouble with the bar, go on tv tours, anything to pass time cause IMO they know that the judge is going to bend over backwards not to infringe on their parade. I think they know full well that JS doesn’t want them whining and moaning about any issues so he errs on the side of uber caution. It’s infuriating that they seem to hold the process hostage.
I’m losing respect for the integrity of the system when all this bologna is taken at face value with no demand to timely prove any of it. Time after time, they’re not prepared properly, their personal schedules take precedence and yet they’re always given another chance to comply. It’s making me nuts, is it beerthirty yet?
MJ, HA HA HA HA HA!!! “Casey is probably packing her imaginary suitcase right now” LOL! LOL! and “Hate to tell him (Baez) it’s not like TV.” That is seriously funny!
Demi, sometimes I just pretend to think like casey, as she sits in her “room” waiting for her big,hot n spicy latin bombshell lawyer to announce with that smirk, “it’s all over baby, let’s hit the discoteca”.
okay, I better shut up before I get in trouble. I believe it’s the ugly in me coping !
The link has already been posted, the TV Guy has a brief article on today’s deadline, says ‘no deadline now, the plea in the fraud case, so he suggests, ends that’.
Here’s the article itself:
“Casey Anthony: No Feb. 1 deadline on defense witness list
Caylee and Casey Anthony — posted by halboedeker on February, 1 2010 3:24 PM
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Readers have been asking about a Feb. 1 deadline — that would be today — in the Casey Anthony case. She is charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter, Caylee.
In October, the Sentinel wrote that Judge Stan Strickland “ordered the defense team to turn over its witness list to prosecutors by Feb. 1. Prosecutors want to question the witnesses who support the defense’s claim that Anthony is innocent.”
But this deadline was rendered moot on the day Anthony pled guilty in her check-fraud case. The prosecution and the defense agreed to work out a new schedule of deadlines for the case, including a potential trial date. That schedule has not yet been made public.
There was a deadline today, however, for the defense to provide information that would support defense attorney Todd Macaluso’s claim that Anthony is innocent.
As of late this afternoon, it was unclear whether the defense had filed that information.”
PS: Safari with Google has deemed WESH’s site to be toxic. Firefox thinks it’s ok, no warnings.
406 Kleat,
I’m not sure what she meant. I researched it and could not verify that she lived on hopesprings,she has had a couple of last names, or possibly rented or lived with someone,It does seem odd that she was praising kronk and then now she is not so fond of him. Maybe it is one of those love em hate em relationships.
Re #417 Martha – There is also a second video of Caylee being taped and Casey doesn’t say a word. It’s creepy to me too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCYd9hKh4Dw
It’s wrong to laugh.
It’s wrong to laugh.
It’s wrong to laugh.
In this second video where Casey says nothing, Caylee stares into space a couple of times. Makes me wonder if Casey had drugged her with something and to me at the very end of the tape where Caylee turns her back to the camera and then runs around as Casey moves foward she has a frightened look on her face as if to say what is this crazy person going to do to me now.
418 pamela,
When the defense states that someone else put Caylee’s body in the woods when casey was in jail,we naturally assume it was when casey was taken into custody in Oct. I believe they may be referring to caseys initial arrest. In discovery we know of a couple of people who were in those woods.
IF ANYONE was close to the body they would have smelled the odor, they would not have had to search.
IIRC- KioMarie and sargent allen was in those woods on July 19 WHERE? And keith williams. WHERE? I will have to go back in my notes to see if there were other tips
Two to three weeks after death is when the smell is the strongest, then it gradually fades but is still strong at one month
Has anyone considered the ‘gas can’ issue in relation to ‘huffing’?
Casey liked freebies, like the two-for-one ice cream cone day, her comment about doing whatever was available (drugs), and stealing other people’s money and stealing gas for her car showed a need to go on the cheap. Isn’t it a logical step to wonder about use of inhalents? Or would free and ‘legal’ inhalent use not be so attractive to someone like Casey. But, it was easily available and undetectable at home, because it was there, in the shed.
George said the vent on his fav can was blocked with duct tape because of ‘fumes’ in his car. There are other uses for ‘fumes’, if Casey wanted to get high on one of her ‘work-non-work’ days outside the home. Easy access to the vent, just patch it again with tape.
Was ex-cop George aware of the use of gasoline fumes by teenagers for a cheap high or experimenting? Could it be a reason for locking the shed and in one version, keeping the location of the key safe from adult/mother of child, Casey, not just keeping the key out of toddler reach?
Would this be a suitable recreational high for Casey during times she did not have easy access to other drugs?
# 403 and #406 Midwest MOM and Kleat
I think maybe Crystal meant to type the pronoun “he” or “they” instead of “I” …. as in ….. “The voice you heard on the recording to the dispatcher was the dispatcher referring to Hopespring, the street HE or THEY live on”…..
Leonard Padilla told a blogger on Scared Monkeys, in a phone call, that Roy Kronk’s supervisor, Scott Sampson, lives 7 houses down from the Anthonys, and Mr. Sampson indeed lives on Hope Spring Drive, the same street the Anthonys live on.
Maybe it was Roy Kronk’s supervisor, Mr. Sampson, who was heard on the recording telling the dispatcher about Hopespring drive, giving directions to where Caylee’s remains were found?
Crystal on December 21st, 2008 2:41 pm
Roy doesn’t live in that neighborhood. The voice you heard on the recording to the dispatcher was the dispatcher referring to Hopespring, the street I live on
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4367.msg620221
Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #88
« Reply #1086 on: January 09, 2009, 06:55:46 PM »
BooMonkey
excerpt:
Scott Sampson, the meter readers supervisor lives 7 houses away from Anthonys.
Crystal Sparks lives/works in Washington DC.
Roy lives in St. Cloud, FL
Regarding Crystal Sparks’ confusing comment on Scared Monkeys about “Hopespring Dr”……
Crystal’s comment was numbered # 53 on December 21, 2008.
Look at the comment before Crystal’s comment, # 21, by C.G. on December 19, 2008 This blogger is the one who started the confusion about Roy living on Hopespring Drive. Actually, it was Roy’s SUPERVISOR, Mr. Scott Sampson, who was on the call to the dispatcher WITH Roy, and Mr. Sampson said that HE lives on Hopespring Drive – which he does. After this confusing comment by “C.G.” …. Crystal posts later trying to clear up the confusion and tell everyone that Roy does not live on Hopespring Drive …. but Crystal made it just as confusing with her comment.
It is Roy’s supervisor who lives on Hopespring Drive.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/12/19/roy-kronk-meter-reader-utility-worker-who-found-caylee-anthonys-remains-to-have-news-conference/#comments
#21 C.G. on December 19th, 2008 10:46 pm
What I have to say is shocking and hard to digest but at least consider the evidence.
Ray Kronk, the hguy who “found” Caylee said in his offical statement, I had to urinate so I went in to the woods…” Here’s the thing…in a recorded conversation with his supervisor after he found the body, he told his super that he lives on Hopespring…less than half a block from where Caylee was “found”. The same street as the Anthony’s grandparents. Why pee in the woods when your house is less than 500 ft away? Remeber he was at work. Also, what city lets their meter readers read the meters in their own neighborhood. Not in Orlando they don’t. Don’t believ me…dig around and you’ll see. If Caylee’s mom did have anything to do with her daughter’s death…she didnt do it alone.
DISPATCH CALL
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-caylee-dispatch-call-remains-found-mp3,0,3489653.mp3file
Midwest MOM, where did you get that timeline of weeks? What was this based on, ie: what conditions, heat, humidity, open air, body sealed in layers of black plastic wrapping and a thicker waterproof bagging, all closed inside a metal ‘container’ (aka vehicle trunk) over asphalt in hot florida parking lots, and in the hot and humid summer?
2-3 weeks, and the 1 month mark, may shift to a more accelerated decomp and it’s related decomp products, than an average situation of a body in a building, or outside in an open air environment, or other non-extreme environment.
Have to know what the timeline is based on to determine if it would relate to this situation. And also need to know what the conditions were in the woods, during the 2nd and 3rd week– much cooler than a car trunk in the foliage and under trees, and away from the heat absorbing and radiating asphalt and buildings.
The body would have been placed in the woods on or before June 27th, and the baby was not reported missing in the media, until July 16th. That is four weeks of decomposition, some of it in that sealed trunk, plastic environment that might accelerate things so much faster at a critical time. That is close to a month after decomp began, and a small child, not an adult.
Remember at the last hearing when AL said that they may have to say that Casey is indigent if it means the defense wouldn’t have to pay for the state to travel? If that would happen, what would that mean for Casey’s dream team? How could an indigent person have a bevy of attorneys and experts that all want to be paid? Or would they say they have a private benefactor who pays their fees but who is not obligated to pay for the state’s travel expenses? I’d like to know how that would be handled. Anyone?
Thinker beginning comment # 430. I have lived in Central Florida for over 40 years. I am also very aware of the animals native to the area. If Caylee’s body (GRAPHIC ALERT) was placed in the woods between 06/16/08 and 06/24/08, as believed, and personally I believe it was closer to 06/16, the animals native, including insects such as ants, beetles, flys, racoons, armidillos and dogs would have dissimated the body to bones, and little else, in a matter of days. I don’t believe that someone searching the woods in mid to late July would have smelled anything. Also, under typical Florida decomp, assuming a body is either bagged or in a shallow grave, would also make the decomp faster, and the smell would be gone in a matter of days.
My ex and his family did a lot of hunting and also captured nuisance gators for the Florida Fish and Game Commission. It is only in the first days of decomp after death that there is a smell. Once the animals “take” over there is very little left that would leave a “smell” behind.
I don’t believe that Casey drove around with Caylee in the car for days on end, especially since in the summer heat, with the trunk acting like a humid oven, that she could have stood the smell, or the idea that Caylee was in the trunk and could easily be detected, causing Casey to have an inexplainable situation to whoever got near the vehicle.
Just IMHO
Also Kleat:
Apparently the smell, or picking up on the smell of decomp, even at close range, may vary depending on the wind current, even if it is slight.
On Hinkymeter, a woman who sadly lost her son to suicide had to clean out a truck. Long story short- on different days, the smell waxed and waned.
I’m too lazy to search for a link, but everything else you have written I am in complete agreement with.
ChicagoJudy,
The debate over and how Casey is “paying” for her defense has been a favorite subject on this site. With pictures being sold, trips being taken yada yada yada, somehow they are “being” paid.
What I find interesting was how AL brought up “indigent”. Basically saying– (If you want my client to pay for all the travel expenses then she will have to file for indident. That is not what tax payers would want.) I beileve that was a standard protocal statemnt….nothing more. Something AL would HAVE to say. I am guess tho.
KLEAT #407—I LIKE HOW YOU DESCRIBED HOW JUDGE STRICKLAND RELATES TO BAEZ AND HOW MUCH HE IS LIKE CASEY—JUST RATTLES ON AND ON—THE MORE YOU TALK AND ELABORATE THE TRUER THE STATEMENT–HAHA.
THANK GOODNESS WE HAVE THIS JUDGE, HE IS AWESOME. I LIKED IT TOO HOW HE HEARD CASEY’S APOLOGY BUT DIDNT ENGAGE HER AND LET HER GO ON “ABSOLUTELY”, JUST ASKED IF SHE WAS OF SOUND MIND (NO!!!!!), UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS HAPPENING (TOO BUSY REMEMBERING HER LINES AND CRYING ON CUE) AND WAS SHE ON ANY DRUGS OR ALCOHOL (SHE WISHES, JUST JALAPENO CHEESE DIP FOR NOW BUT WOULD LIKE A STRIPPER POLE INSTALLED IN HER “DORM” FOR EXERCISE AND TO ENTERTAIN JOSE).
Ooops, sorry for the caps above. Had been writing a letter to my mother–has a hard time seeing.
Pamela,
I totally agree with your comments about the smell not lasting very long past the time of “animal involvement”. There was a tortoise living in our neighborhood that had come from the Parrot Jungle at its old location, but it was often in our backyard. My kids used to feed it often. One day they found the shell had been picked clean by animals a few days after thye were playing with it. This tortoise was more than a foot and a half long that they had named and knew by its shell markings. We were shocked that the whole “process” was completed so quickly. We never found out why he died, just that the clean up was over in a matter of days.
Curious – did Caylee ever play with any other children on a regular basis? (not fake daycare playmates – real children)
Thinker did RK say he lived on Hopesprings or did the dispatcher say it? I thought it was the dispatcher or one of the guys he worked with…wondering…correct me if I am wrong please…
I am e-mailing to K. Belich at wftv.com, asking that she help me
get a full accounting on just how much money the state of Florida
has spent on this case so far. I can’t believe that it will be almost
2 (TWO) years. I want to know how much of my tax money has been spent
on this case. I am tire of the stall factor, and Judge Strickland needs to kick it into high gear! I will let you all know my findings
if any. Thanks for letting me vent. I just can’t believe we are
now looking at maybe November (WHY).
Whoops! My comment at 426 (It is wrong to laugh) was NOT in response to the comment directly above it (about the weird Caylee video). That would be sick. It was in response to MJ at 421 (I believe it’s the ugly in me coping)LOL!
Seriously though, about those creepy videos, I’ve never heard a professional take on their weirdness. Like, Lillian Glass for example. Has anyone here ever heard an expert’s thoughts? It’s just so bizarre that there’s such complete silence. It might be easier understood if the photographer was experimenting with the camera ~ zooming, focusing, special FX, for example but that’s not what’s going on. Just a thick silence.
And I’m also wondering if Caylee’s language was at a normal stage at her age. She was almost three-years-old in the Nursing Home video. Take a look at this short clip of a three-year-old describing Star Wars. Caylee wasn’t even close to this. I’m wondering if the problem could be that no one ever talked to her unless Cindy or George were home.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBM854BTGL0
Caylee was a very intelligent little girl from what we’ve seen but her vocabulary did seem to be smaller than most. I could be completely wrong. I can’t remember exactly when my kids and my kidlets started using sentences. I’m just using on-line data now so who knows?
Casey could NEVER have let Caylee live once she started speaking like the little girl in the video.
Here’s another little three-year-old girl who can easily participate in a conversation. The language in this video is stupid, ridiculous. Don’t you just love it when a Mother teaches her little girl to say “ass?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk-1mla0LeU&feature=related
Okay. I’m gonna stop listening to three-year-olds now. And their mothers!
ChicagoJudy post 433- in reference to Casey claiming indigent- Again, I am not an expert by any means and I am more familiar with Federal court then I am with State- I do know in a federal case if you do not want a Court appointed Attorney the attorney of your choice will be paid by the Government (not their full amount though)- just as a court appointed. Maybe someone with more knowledge on this can weigh in, but I personally know someone who did this.
Kleat- I would like to know something. I read a time line on Bill Schaeffers (sp?) site and I swear I read that when Casey was home from jail she said “they don’t even have the time line right”. Do you know anything about that?
WSH, and also, scent drifts into pockets, cooler air holds more scent, cooler air hugs the ground. Foliage too, will trap the air, maybe block air movement. So if ‘searchers’ didn’t go down into the swamp depression, their noses would have been well above the cooler layer of air holding most scent, their feet in muck and mire.
Would any searcher claiming, maybe boasting, that they ‘cleared’ the entire area alone or with a small crew, want to then say he or she had not done the job thoroughly and in a methodical, detailed fashion with the right tools and supervision? (I’d think clearing this area methodically early on, would be what was never done)
Thinker, we should mark those words by Cindy to Sgt. Allen that if Casey had anything to do with what happened to Caylee, she didn’t do it alone– ‘she’s not that smart’ comment attached.
Baez had set a plan in action soon, and planned or not, Cindy blurted this out in her voice message to Sgt A.
Casey not working alone, will help her with the death penalty, she’s innocent because of someone else, she only helped them? Innocent of the child endangerment/neglect charges too?
Casey needed to talk long ago, no matter what the kidnap excuse, she’s still culpable for obstructing justice and the chance of any rescue of her baby from the person or persons that she ‘helped’. The baby died because of Casey’s actions.
Maybe the defense can squeeze reasonable doubt by some control over Casey and her actions. What about the death threats in calls and letters to the Anthony home? Did the frenzy caused by igniting elements of the public and fueling that rage by grandparents rages and engaging reactions and taunts on camera, cause the circus that provided these letters and death threats? Thereby creating an illusion (and maybe hard evidence) of actual threats that can come in at court? Has the defense investigated any of these threats?