Morgan Harrington Murder: Virginia State Police Press Conference Today
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Charlottesville, VA– Corrine Geller, Public relations Manager for Virginia State Police, Appomatox barracks, has announced a Press Conference scheduled for today at 3PM.
“..No arrest has been made. No cause of death has been determined. Today’s press briefing is just an investigative update..”
Lt. Joe Radar, the ead investigator with VSP into the death of 20 year old Virgina Tech student Morgan Harrington, is expected to lead the briefing.
Morgan Dana Harrington, who is scheduled to be laid to rest tomorrow, was found deceased at the Anchorage Farm in a remote location of the vast property.
The press conference is going to focus on the Farm property where Morgan was recovered.
Police have not yet named a suspect in her disappearance and murder.
Please check back to blinkoncrime.com for this continuing story.
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Still being a dog with this particular bone… sorry. I saw the bit of B’s initial reporting that Morgan and AM met [S]S and [one of the friends'] boyfriends… in Crozet. Do we have any other links reporting either that Morgan went to Crozet prior to the concert or specifically that she went to Hburg prior to it?
Additionally, can anyone link me to where we know that Morgan’s car (and two of the three other concert attendees) actually returned to *Harrisonburg* after the concert? Could it be that they went to Crozet instead?
This just makes so much more sense to me. Routewise, logistically, riving from Virginia Tech to Roanoke to Crozet to Cville’s JPJ makes a lot more sense (I know that 20-somethings with more energy than I’ll ever have probably don’t blink at driving out of the way to get some buddies, but it still just doesn’t make a lot of sense.) To go from Tech to Roanoke to Harrisonburg means traveling upstate from Roanoke up I-81 to Harrisonburg — this means traveling north quite a ways past where you would otherwise cut over east on 64 and go through Waynesboro, over Afton Mountain, and then through Crozet and neighboring Charlottesville. You’d drive north quite a ways out of the way, then double back south. You can go from Harrisonburg to the Charlottesville area by way of 33 E, but it does wind through mountainous park land and is not an easy drive, although it is scenic (as is the other route). More likely, I think we’ve seen it pitched here in the past, they would leave Harrisonburg going south on 81 and then cut east on 64.
Plus, what if the JMU-area concertgoers had already traveled to Crozet, stayed over the night(s) prior, and then were met by AM and Morgan who traveled north on 81 and then over on 64 to Crozet? They’d almost be at the concert area (as Crozet (pronounced Crow-ZAY) is basically Charlottesville and it takes, what, 10-15 minutes via hopping onto 64 and getting off it a couple exits later and bam, you’re at JPJ. That would leave the whole afternoon to unwind, enjoy, versus traveling more.
That would also be much much more conducive to checking around Charlottesville the next morning to see if they could find her, instead of having to drive the 45-60 minutes from Harrisonburg (one-way), after a late concert-evening, drinking, hangovers, whatnot… not such a big deal to take someone’s car to Crozet from the JPJ either… not like taking it to Hburg which is no way on the way to Roanoke/Tech.
??? JJ
Dear Mrs. Harrington:
I can sympathize with you in dismantling a home. It is a painful yet joyful experience. People will not be able to understand this. Pain for what never will be and the joy of what was and to be.
I have a life full of rubbermaid bins in my basement that I am unwilling to part with. Cans of spraypaint, pencils, drawing paper, flowers, she made. The list goes on and on. People say I would heal if I went through it all and got rid of it. But how can I? It is her. So, I cart those bins around with me from home to home. Unable to bring myself to do it. Maybe if I had help when we would not end up on the floor in tears. See, my sisters have tried. It seems we all are never on the same page of grief. How funny is that after all these years.
Although, I wrapped and carried her items preciously out, I cannot help but remember moving her in also. It was an exciting time in her life. She was one of us. You are no doubt, much more pulled together than I was. I sobbed the whole way through it. Looking at her quirky, electic, and wonderful life. A life, I thought was wasted also but then I looked around and saw it was not. It taught me so much more and taught me what I needed to do.
Get busy living or get busy dying. I chose the first.
There were blue, blue eyes that needed me to do that. It was hard. So hard and still is to this day. But, if I am allowed to say one thing to you, it would be her life, Morgan’s life was not wasted. Although, I know it is not meant that way. To others it just sounds strange. It is the finality of someone taking it that is the waste.
But, your daughter pulled me in and refocused me. I know that some might consider this selfish and yes, it probably is but Morgan mattered to me and still does. My own daughter is proud that I went on that search, proud that I took her back and proud of what I am doing on here with this amazing group of unknowns! As she says, because of Skyler’s son…”head-banging it out”. She trys to find humor, like her momma, to cope.
She sees you and Morgan as strong women and what wonderful role models, she has in the both of you.
So, cry, feel, ache, laugh and remember what she was and what, even in her death, she provides to the many unknowns, just like me. It will give you peace sometime when you just might need it.
And, please also remember, when that cardinal comes back to your feeder, it is because she feels at home there and you provide that. Do not think of it in pain and sadness but in the hope, safety and solace that you provide. You may think this a tad nutty (No disrespect, Dr.H) but as you move Morgan back home with you, Dr. Harrington and Alex, know that we are on that journey with you.
With God’s Speed.
i feel a little silly signing this.
fish and family
(it really is my nickname)
Justice says:
March 1, 2010 at 7:18 pm
“Gil Harrington’s thoughts from March 1, 2010
I took some baby steps this week and started the breakdown of Morgan’s apartment at Virginia Tech. It is a painful process to dismantle your child’s life, especially when I recall all the joy and expectation we had when we moved her in only 18 months ago.
….. Oh, this is gut-wrenching. Thank you Dr. Harrington and Gil, for giving grief a face.
Justice says: It never ceases to amaze me at the pure strength of Gil (& Dan too). Reading Gil’s take on how she is handling the loss of her dear shiny Morgan makes my heart break all over again! She is definitely right about Morgan, given the chance to actually grow up, she was going to be phenomenal. But now, with the murder of our beautiful Morgan, and Gil & Dan’s strength throughout this horrible tragedy, the life and death of Morgan will not be in vain.
….. You’re right, Justice. It will not be in vain. We have already learned so much from Morgan and her family….sigh….
Gil’s words are heart rending. I can’t fathom what she’s feeling about the tragic waste of Morgan’s potential.
But I guess the other way to look at Morgan’s life—the way I find I MUST look at it, otherwise it’s too overwhelmingly tragic, even for a distant stranger like myself—-is to thank God she was able to pack so much, well, LIFE into it. She filled it with music, friends, art, family, culture, good works, humor, beauty, love—tons more than the average Joe or Jane seems to do. Perhaps she had an underlying karmic sense that she had but a short time to cram in as much as she could. Perhaps that last 6 months of closeness with her folks was in part due to an unconscious urgency to bond with those she loved most, because for some inescapable and inexplicable reason, time was running out.
What’s that saying? The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long. That’s Morgan. Bright and shiny Morgan. An abrupt and abbreviated life, yet one that was filled to the brim.
Skyler, i just luv ya dudette!! Your stories never fail to send me crackalackin up!!! I, too, send money to animal causes, children, and St. Judes, from watching the commercials (sigh).
Whoo, and my son! Could I spend days tellin’ stories there! Well, he’s looking for a job, now. Prayers for him, pleeeze!!!
And prayers for my friend whose cousin was killed Friday in an auto accident. He was only 33…
Hear back. I feel strongly there is rapid progress being made these days in Morgan’s case.
B
I feel the same. Been crying off and on for 2 days. Yes, part of it is for my friend’s loss. The other is feeling something so close, almost tangible.
BTW it’s a full moon, so deep breaths and meditation for all…
Evening Blinkers please pray for young Julia Siegler thirteen years old, who died on last friday in
Los Angeles. She was hit by a car when she ran across the road against the signal trying to catch the school bus. Pray for her mother who saw it happen and for her father and brother. It is just too sad and has rocked our school community here. The site is festooned with flowers , candles, photographs and flowers.
I have promised myself not to speed on my way to my daughters school, and to slow down at the lights.
The light was green and the 16 year old high school student who hit her did not see her as a previous car turning into the intersection was blinded by a large tree, and knocked her down onto the road.
I feel lucky to be a part of this group.
Lucky to have met Morgan and her family, regretfully under such sad circumstances.
Lucky to have found Blink.
Thankyou one and all and Godspeed.
We are lucky to have you, prayers for Julia and her bereaved family.
B
keekee says:
March 1, 2010 at 11:13 pm
food for thought:
……to embarrass someone is as if you have murdered their soul for a moment in time. you all have felt it…maybe it’s been a while…but that awful hard pit drop in the stomach when you realize that you are being held up to public ridicule. it’s a form of bullying which reflects badly upon the one holding him or herself above others.
…. keekee, you are a word master. Thank you for so gently making a good point…
Oh dear Fish,
your pain is palpable. I am sending virtual hugs your way and will keep you in my prayers. Hope that it provides just a small moment of comfort. Wish somehow that I had wise and eloquent words to ease your burdens.
I am in awe of your strength and spirit. with greatest admiration…..
dew
Mom.3, I completely agree that women are more than capable of being the BG. I didn’t read anything into your previous post ~ sorry for the misunderstanding.
Fish, what a beautiful message you left for the Harringtons. I am very sorry to hear of your loss.
KeeKee I admire you very much. For all of your joking you have a very kind heart and you are a good human being. Thank you for your posts. I think many people put their hearts out their and you never know how your words have touched them for the good or the bad. Thank you KeeKee.
Ragdoll. Thank you so much for the hug.
Hummingbird, So sorry to hear about Julia. Thank you for sharing. Many prayers for this family. So very sad.
Fish, your words of comfort to Mrs. Harrington are so touching and I feel your pain. I’m so sorry for what you’ve gone through. There is a quality in your posts that draws me to you. You portray such feeling, it’s like my heart joins with yours. I see alot of strength there, that maybe you aren’t aware of. Hugs to you friend!
justiceformorgan,
Hi. No , no misunderstanding, we are good. I just wanted to take the opportunity to clarify my previous comments, thankfully you allowed me to do so. While showing me a link that I had not previously seen, so thanks, friend.
Fish, Your words are always so heartfelt. You are such a good soul. In the words of Dory the fish…. Keep on swimming, keep on swimming. Luv Ya, fishy
Kee Kee, I second MsLurkALot thanks of your March 1, 2010 at 11:13 pm post, Your father was a very wise man. The apple does not fall tooo far from the tree, eh Keekee? Much appreciated,KK
Red Hill local, thanks for your continued insights. I very much appreciated your breaking down your personal knowledge of the hunters (sorry you guys have to deal with this sadness)
Red Racer, welcome, interesting take. It sure would be nice to have a canary in the coal mine.
suz, thanks for the stats.
Christy S thanks, Im not sure, but good find.
Observer, glad you feel at home here, enough to let see the personality under OBSERVER. LoL
BelleBoyd, Yoshi, thanks for the youtubes. Great research, I know how time consuming watching those can be. Say thanks to your daughter too BB -
Yoshi, I know, it is so frustrating how many times in different vids DS can be found, but none positively Morgan…..
Eloise, yes I know whose bald head you speak of, once or twice I actually yelled at the monitor Move!! Fish, remember those guys??? thanks for your March 1, 2010 at 5:53 pm reply, great work Fish.
belleboyd March 1, 2010 at 2:32 pm post interesting
ConcernedBystander your March 1, 2010 at 5:19 pm post, brilliant thanks for posting
Jenifer, thanks for the link haven’t had a chance to read it yet.
Lisa, Hi, You are welcome, and thank you for your gentle nudge and reminder. Tell your husband from my husband,that he feels for him, and he better plan on buying a new key board. LOL -Post more often, we’d love to have ya here.
total amateur March 1, 2010 at 4:41 pm, Oh, now, that calls for speculation, We are not sure where they stayed or what time they left or if they returned the next day, or if they were with DS and company. Many different,stories out there, not sure,is the easy answer.
HokieHi March 1, 2010 at 1:40 am- very interesting research, thanks awa for the heads up on the clues by the way.
SadieBlue, everyone sharing their stories, thanks.
Juliemooly,diogenes, I know what you mean. There are some heavy metal female rockers out there, punk too. Not alot have made it big. For the most part, they rock hard, but often times look pretty while doing it. Good name though,diogenes. Reminds me of a Sammy Hager tune.. Dick in the Dirt…
Just Desserts, thanks for reading my speculations on Morgan’s placement. And thanks for noticing my abscence. Kids still are not quite finished, but the bulk is done…
To everyone who thoughtfully let me know that you are using the music scene links, thank you thank you, I could never look thru them all by myself
Ragdoll you are special to me to friend, thanks for keeping it real over on the Caylee threads too. Love ya.
Chad, you are gonna hate me, but my daughter has Csap tomorrow- went to bed early – I wish I knew more about computers. I WILL make it there, please save me a place.
Hummingbird, so nice to see you again, always wondering about you and all those who haven’t posted alot- stop by, let us know how you are doing.. Fletch, BlackPearl, Rabbit, Mouse, Sherlock the list goes on…
bevolovr , sad but true, there is no safe place… No walking alone, no riding in your car without locked doors, no going to a concert in a public venue, ect ect Sad.
I have this feeling…in my soul that something big is about to happen. Perhaps it’s justice for Morgan. Perhaps the person (s) that killed Morgan is/are about to arrested. I can just feel the tide turning. Fingers are crossed. Be afraid, be very afraid!
Diogenes
Thank you for your words of wisdom.
Offering you a big new bunch of Onions.
Observer
You say “Trust Me”
I could make a conscious decision to do that. Then I would trust you, no questions asked.
Is this wise? Not to me, it isn’t. Blind trust gets people in trouble, even on the internet.
Reminds me of the time I was camping in the wilderness. It was getting dark very quickly, and I was late getting my dinner prepared.
By the time I had the fire going, and dinner cooking, it was very dark. I felt someone staring at me. It made me very uncomfortable, so I shone my powerful flashlight in the direction I felt the stare coming from. About 20 feet away from me stood a lone wolf. He was staring at me, just standing there watching me. I looked at him for awhile, and wanted to call him over to me, to hug him. and share my dinner with him. I also felt as if he wanted to come over. He looked as if he was going to approach. He took a few tentative steps towards me. I decided it was better for both he and I if I scared him away. I felt bad, but I clapped my hands and he reluctantly slowly walked away.
See there’s no way I’m gonna be able to catch up tonight on all that I’ve missed today; just a couple of comments will have to wind up my day:
First, to dear, dear Fish: I sense no one of us would give better lessons on that essential choice– “Get busy living, or get busy dying.” No doubt which path you take! And just guessing that Gil Harrington might hear little echoes of Morgan in your words! Eloquent when you want to be: “But, if I am allowed to say one thing to you, it would be her life, Morgan’s life was not wasted. . . . It is the finality of someone taking it that is the waste.” Amen!
And then, to hummingbird: Double up what Blink said– it’s we who are lucky to have you Who with a heart isn’t moved and often amazed by the visitations of a hummingbird? Such a sad story of the tragic accidental death of that young girl, and the horror that it must be to her mother– may she someday be able to stop seeing it, stop feeling bitterness at the loss! Such accidents always show how fragile is our hold on life and on those we love; they’re wrenching reminders of our human limitations.
Morgan’s death, no accident, came about through someone’s contempt for life. Let’s hope we can do something about that, at least, through more humane education that might reduce the crop of potential unsubs out there in their darkness of spirit . . .or, in keekee’s words, their “black hole souls” that suck up so much potential good energy from this world.
My heart dropped when I saw the youtube footage of MH near the stage minutes before being ejected from JPJ Center. The Harringtons might not hold the Center responsible , but I do and I can’t help to think the big what if. Metalica–what did you save? $25 bucks on locking someone out? Typical metal heads! I got diss’d on FB in the first few weeks of November for raising doubt and responsibility on the bands, JPJ center, and their ridiculous policy. But facts are facts. And People can be drones when it comes to upholding “policy”. How about Morgans Law–Change your effin policy at concerts–really???
Enough with the hunter theory. Maybe, just maybe the BG hunted in this property. I doubt it. Months of speculation have been wasted on Bass’ permission slip for hunters. Red Herring. The perp was a stranger-opportunist or slight chance she new BG (s). I am leaning toward MIB spotted in parking lot and again at 3:45 by News lady. MH was bounced from JPJ, tried in vain to get back in, friends realized no chance getting back in so they let her fend for herself, met up with group of guys (MIB) by pure chance, “Hey come party with us”, partied til late, heading back toward arena when someone in group took advantage, things got ugly, and then more than one involved in assault and AF disposal. This is not a complicated case. Peeps on BOC are reading too deep on too much–granted some smart thinking here–but please—analysis , paralysis–right?. No serial, No ex BF, No conspiracy, just simple wrong place, wrong time. Some local Charlottesville redneck douche bags took advantage of MH and when all is said and done–not as complicated as all these web sleuths have made it out to be. JMHO.
Observer- I do trust you. FWIW
Jim- point taken. However, I am going with she vanished without a trace theory. Unfortunately there have been very few facts given to the public therefore we can only discuss various possible scenarios. your scenario definitely the simplest. However, we simply just do not know. The more the possibilities are discussed more options come to light. The people who are involved in the case mostly all of them are linked together through family and friends. What is your take on the links? I for one do not feel everything in this case is by coincidence or bad luck. It may be a spectacle to some, to others its finding answers.
OK – ENOUGH IS ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!! I am outraged! Another beautiful young girl in CA is missing. Chelsea King. I am sick of this! A RSO has been arrested because they found his DNA on a piece of the girl’s clothing but they haven’t found the young girl yet. ? I think that I have that right. Also, another girl, Amber Dubois (spelling?) has been missing and he is a suspect. I hope that I have that right. The psychiatrist said that he was a danger to younger girls if let out of prison, and they still let him out!!!! WTH? There are over 700,000 RSO in this country. WAY TOO MANY. At least 100,000 do not register. In CA it is up to the SO to register. Huh? I checked the VSP RSO’s living in my area yesterday. Again, way too many. I found out that there are 2 violent RSO’s working at the McDonald’s not too far from me and my daughter’s best friend works there! I told her last night. I am calling her dad today to tell him. He checks the Registry from time to time. When we moved here, he told me how to check the registry online. Some of them have PO Boxes for home addresses. HUH? I don’t think that they can fit inside a PO Box! That is NOT an address!!! Why is this allowed? What can we do? I am going to make my daughter take self defense classes this summer with me. That is going to be mandatory. Even if I have to pay her to go. Sorry, I am on a rant and sorry for the caps, but I am pissed! again! I will pray for these families as I continue to pray for Morgan’s family and I also pray for LE to find this SOB. Can’t happen fast enough. My heart is very heavy today for these families. I have to go to my daughter’s HS today to sell tickets to the play. If I have the chance, I’m going to tell every young girl to read the book, Gift of Fear. At least I can do that for today. Someone, please tell me what I can do to help stop this epidemic of SO’s hurting our children.
okay all you good people, i have now started my morning with a cup of coffee and elephant tears flying toward my keyboard as i read such lovely words. thank you for your kind acknowledgement. i heart you.
fish -
i am gonna assume that blink will make sure that gil harrington gets your words of sisterhood and comfort that you so movingly wrote yesterday. if i could wrap you in a big hug, i would. do you know what i think? gonna tell you that it is my opinion that you and gil could write a book together about your shared experience of dealing with such soul heart wrenching loss. it could even help deter some deficient souls on the way to total soul blackness. statistics have shown through the victim impact program of prisons that criminals forced to come face to face with the victims left behind evolve to a new level of human understanding. this is more effective than any rote classroom discourse.
recently i have read about promising research that shows sociopaths can be changed through role playing. it is the “fake it till you make it” theory put into action. because they truly lack the human quality called empathy. there is real progress being made. yes, when we slough off brain cells we don’t get them back, but throughout our lifetimes we can activate formerly dormant receptor sites and neurotransmitter pathways! the brain really can be rewired. most of us only use a tiny percentage of our brainpower. it gives me hope.
john –
i apologize for teasing you when i first read your comments. really, i thought you were yanking our collective chains. you have made good points and we hear you. one more question…dude, are you a guy really? cause wanting to hug that lone wolf doesn’t sound like many guys i know…tease tease, duh
mom3 -
oh, thank you for your kind words, too
the wise man i referred to is, in fact, my rabbi. i converted to judaism about 23 years ago and we’re with chabad and a community of very eclectic accepting folks. we study kabbalah (not madonna’s hollywood version) and other forms of mysticism like numerology and i could sing my rabbi’s praises until the cows come home. pun intended.
my rabbi looks like he is from zz top and i adore him. my parents are presbyterian and very accepting. i sent my dad to israel for his 75th birthday last year with my husband to rendezvous with my 21 yo son studing in israel at the time. it is my pleasure to help stir the jewish pot up with my colorful ancestry and our contribution of two adopted kids, one asian and one mixed race. our oldest kid calls himself an irish viking jew. gotta love it.
but i must sing my dad’s praises, too. i am truly a daddy’s girl and the oldest of 4. my conservative mother is a woman of few words and i think i horrified her a bit with my need for expressing my “feelings”. she had an emotionally chilly childhood and was very slow to dole out hugs or kisses or words of love. she showed it in other ways. my dad, on the other hand, never failed to tell me how smart i was, how beautiful inside and out, and how i could do anything i wanted in life. he said he didn’t care what i chose as a profession as long as i was happy and he always told me he loved me and gave me big bear hugs. wow. that is so important. the very best advice my dad passed along to me was about the nature of “sins”. often when i was upset with my mom’s anger toward me for whatever i had done…my dad would comfort me with his explanation that i had committed the sin of omission, not commission. it was just another way of saying that i was a typical thoughtless self absorbed teenager, but it really struck a chord with me. it helped me get where my mom was coming from and it was easier to apologize to her. my kids finish the words of that adage in unison when they hear me say, “it is not a sin of….” but…it works.
Way to go jim m! I agree with everything you just said in your last post. It’s nice to get a more realistic perspective on here for a change. I too think that the arena needs to be held accountable for this poor girl’s demise and someone needs to see to it that this ridiculous policy of no re-entry gets changed!!! It very well could have saved her life and who knows what other concert goers life could be saved by this as well. A Morgans Law-what a great idea !!
Also, I too think that this case is being overanalyzed on here, but I think it’s becaused there just isn’t anything concrete for everyone to grasp onto thus a lot of wild ideas and theories. Maybe if we had something new to chew on we could get down to what really happened to Morgan. And yes,it will probably end up being as simple as being in the wrong place at the wrong time and Morgan being victimized be some drunken or drugged up opportunistic creap. JMHO.
Working on it
B
oh john -
i forgot to acknowledge your “trust me” comment. usually, alarm bells ring when i hear that…kinda like when someone say they are a good religious person. ruh roh
ooops…no offense meant to anyone who used that phrase. just pointing out how it is taken by many people. it usually has the opposite effect intended
suz 11:32 ,a beautiful post about Morgan.
Jim m says: I am leaning toward MIB spotted in parking lot and again at 3:45 by News lady. MH was bounced from JPJ, tried in vain to get back in, friends realized no chance getting back in so they let her fend for herself, met up with group of guys (MIB) by pure chance, “Hey come party with us”, partied til late, heading back toward arena when someone in group took advantage, things got ugly, and then more than one involved in assault and AF disposal.
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It’s possible, but if they took her to a party where a number of other people attended and/or she was still alive as of 3:45am, I can’t imagine that the News lady is the only one who has come forward saying she saw her after they left JPJ. I’m not discounting that she could’ve been with the MIB. I just find it hard to believe with the publicity this case has had since the beginning that she could’ve been strolling across the “lawn” over six hours after he last official sighting with no other witnesses reporting seeing her in all that time. If she was with the MIB, then imo, they either kept her in their vehicle or took her to an isolated area with no other people around and then to AF. But, I could be wrong…
diogenes says:
March 1, 2010 at 4:05 pm
“Maybe we can organize an all girl METAL band and the first album could be called Dick Crusher, or something like that!! (I’m sure we can think of some good titles).”
Ha hahahah. That really has me laughing. Can you imagine the poster art and tee shirt designs? My mind is going to reel with the possibilities.
Jim M., you may be right about the “No serial, No ex BF, No conspiracy” but for the human mind is designed to make connections and fill in the blanks, and that tends to complicate things. I can’t even keep track of all the POI’s anymore, much less put them together AND put them on Anchorage Farm. I hope the magnetic pull of the full moon upturned some stones for law enforcement. Oh, and did you hear on the news that the Chile earthquake shifted the earth 3″ on its axis? Maybe that and the full moon combined shook some weasels out of their dens and into the sights of LE.
Jim m, while i agree that overanalyzing can be counterproductive, it is my opinion (based on my conclusions drawn) that an arrest is very imminent, that the BOYS responsible for this horrible crime are local, and that, in fact, one is very intimate with AF. This was not at all a crime of opportunity.
“The dead cannot cry out for justice; it is the duty of the living to do so for them.”
Lois McMaster Bujold
Hi Blink! First time poster, but longtime fan of your site.
Question: Can you either confirm or deny—or give any other insight—that certain “persons of interest” (and one young buck in
particular) who live nearby AF, are tracked by LE utilizing GPS
technology (due to past misdeeds), and therefore are easy to
eliminate—-or incriminate—-judged by their whereabouts on Oct 17/18?
If so, does this warrant movement of cheese, or is this subject of GPS tracking purely speculative?
I will answer you this way- if my cheese could be made into a jumpsuit, that young buck would be wearing it.
B
jim, m….huh? when was the siting on utube confirmed to be Morgan and where do you find confirmation of her being “ejected form JPJ..?
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“jim m says:
March 2, 2010 at 3:30 am
My heart dropped when I saw the youtube footage of MH near the stage minutes before being ejected from JPJ Center. …….”
jim m. Don’t blame Metallica, they don’t care about the $25. They have offered $50,000 reward. It’s JPJ’s no re-entry policy.
I think you’re right about the 4 MIB or BIB (boys in black), they’re not men for sure. I wanted to believe Mrs. Parson’s sighting at 3:45am on “The Lawn”, hoping Morgan was still alive. Is 15th street (teeshirt) near the lawn? I don’t know how many people on here believe any of the sightings. J2K has repeatedly stated that the Granny sighting was not Morgan in the parking lot, I think Blink said she believed Granny. LE won’t say either way. I don’t remember who said they saw her walking away from the arena with 4 BIB. Mrs. Parson, the newspaper lady, said she saw her at 3:45am, and she was sure she recognized Morgan. IDK. The world is watching Virginia. from Africa to Australia to Canada and Europe. Godspeed to the Virginia State Police. Somebody(s) needs to go to prison NOW!
@Red Hill
Can you expand a little on this this comment Red?
(snippet)
B, I’ve missed following your threads but I am not feeling very comfortable about LE and their closing in on the BG. Sad.
So good to see you, I have been thinking of you.B
skyler!
i was just going back through posts to see if i missed anything as usual, and got tickled about your boy being less than truthful over the phone. ah, yes…it is so annoying to our kids when we have their number.
my kids have often commented that for such a “cool mom” i can be so strict about some things. they just don’t understand. haha. here’s an example from the keekee vault: first unexpectedly strict thing is i do not allow my kids to get their driver’s license until age 17 after 2 years of a learner’s permit and the “car control clinic” 2 day course. so…after our oldest successfully got his license and inherited my husband’s truck (as an aside…years ago, my jewish mother in law said in horror that “jews don’t drive trucks”…to which i replied, “they do now”), he was given the rules about driving to highschool and home. the tires of that truck were not to be moved anywhere other than school and home again, unless he had my express permission for rolling his wheels elsewhere ahead of time. so…a few uneventful weeks go by and then i get a phone call from sweet good boy asking if he can go to the qt gas station with friends after school for snacks. as i am about to give my permission, i hear a “ding ding” in the background. pause…did i just hear the door of a public store ring a dinging? silence…poor kid…he said he forgot to call me first and just remembered. please don’t be mad. i wasn’t mad, but i instructed him to return home immediately and promptly put him on 6 months restriction. truck went no where else except school and home. i stuck to it, too. his friends whined to me, too, but oh well. honestly, it may seem cruel but when i say something i mean it and rarely have any of my kids made the same mistake twice. er, except my youngest whose has sensory integration issues and is a “seeker”. when i washed his mouth out with soap after he said, “shut up mother f-er” at age 3 (teenagers snickering in the other room)…he said, “yummy”. hot sauce also invoked, “yummy”. this is a kid who lives off pickles and hotdogs. you’d think he was pregnant. finally, i discovered the only thing that worked was to yell, “firetruck! firetruck!” when he uttered that rhyming word. geez. put a fork in me. i am so ready for grandkids.
MsurkAlot and Kee Kee:
Yes, Kee Kee, I agree with MsLurkAlot! You are the word master. I am so sorry if you felt offended on this site for some eason, but for what the reason you felt the need to post.
I enjoy your posts so much and your contributions here. Thank you for bringing this to the board to keep us all repectful and courteous to our fellow posters even if we agree or disagree.
MsLurkALot says:
March 2, 2010 at 12:08 am
keekee says:
March 1, 2010 at 11:13 pm
food for thought:
……to embarrass someone is as if you have murdered their soul for a moment in time. you all have felt it…maybe it’s been a while…but that awful hard pit drop in the stomach when you realize that you are being held up to public ridicule. it’s a form of bullying which reflects badly upon the one holding him or herself above others.
…. keekee, you are a word master. Thank you for so gently making a good point…
sorry, I forgot New Zealand
jim m says:
March 2, 2010 at 3:30 am
No serial, No ex BF, No conspiracy, just simple wrong place, wrong time. Some local Charlottesville redneck douche bags took advantage of MH and when all is said and done–not as complicated as all these web sleuths have made it out to be. JMHO.
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I’m inclined to expect a simple scenario myself.
If you’re right, Jim M, I’m going to guess the police are going to nail them down, and it’s coming soon. And that’s exactly what I’m looking forward to, whatever or however it happened, I’m looking forward to seeing justice for Morgan.
does anyone know if any of the people she was seen with in the RV lot have been identified? she was seen with them before meeting the bball players… everyone has been accounted for except them.
I am trying to go back & review things I am not clear about. Can anyone direct me to the info about Morgan’s scent being picked up at or around Wild Wings? Is this from a LE statement? Does anyone feel this was relevent? TIA
Fish, I heart you big time —
You say the word, and I’m in H-burg to help you go thru those boxes when you feel the time is right — not necessarily to throw things away, but to remember the wonderful life and light that is your sister.
Sky
jim m ,i mostly agree that’s its possibly that simple,but, where are they for this partying that noone sees her? or hears a brutal physical assault?not a neighbor ?a passerby?how are they so lucky no one sees her while the times are good til it turns sour?who is it? that she would go off with willingly?who could then maintain an alibi?and more than one?
mom 3.0- Thanks for the response to my question. Blink, is it true that the friends have not confirmed their whereabouts(publicly) after the concert? No one knows this? No one knows where they “left” from to return to Charlottesville the next day?
jim m- you may well tick some people off with that post, but I actually think its a breath of fresh air. Several times (especially the past couple weeks), I’ve tried to simplify my thinking. You may well be correct- but the question is: Which local Charlottesville redneck douche bags? I think thats what most of us are trying to figure out.
To most everyone else- I’m sensing a tone of overall frustration on the blog of late. No substantial new information in quite some time for us to chew on, so people are chewing on eachother. Speaking for myself, I recently have become frustrated. We all have developed our our theories/hypotheses- but every single one of them has holes, or spots that we need fact to replace speculation or rumor. For every witness, there’s a question to validity. For every rumor, there’s doubt (the debit card, etc). For every POI, theres no way for us to eliminate them without knowing their alibi or evidence. I believe that our hearts are in the right place- we all want justice for Morgan and her family. We want some evil off the street before they hurt someone else. But, understandibly, LE has to keep many answers under wraps. Ultimately, they are the ones that have to make sure these scumbags are put away forever. I temper my thirst for knowledge with my desire for LE to do everything they can to nail these a-holes. If that means I’m at a dead end, so be it. The best we can do is keep turning over stones for LE to look under.
I bet Blink herself even suffers moments of extreme frustration. (eh, Blink?) She knows much more than she can say. I bet when one of us asks a question she knows the answer to, but can’t say, she squirms in her seat…lol. There are probably things that she thinks SHOULD be released, but LE doesn’t agree. Kudos to you, Blink, for having the moral sense to bite your tongue.
Y O U H A V E N O I D E A !!!!!!!!!
I heart you all so much for your commitment and compassion to Morgan, stay friends and hang in.
B
Good Morning,
Josie, I missed your comment last night, you are welcome, and thanks, its been a long time since someone called me their girl, my homie LOL
John, Hi you asked what I meant by agenda, well unfortunately, sometimes people have had a not so nice reason for doing something… wasn’t sure if you knew the Bass’ and just didn’t like ‘em.
Javier L., Hi welcome great question, very interesting answer Blink
Kee Kee, rabbi huh,nice, quite wise… Thanks for sharing your stories, glad to know I wasn’t too far off on your Dad LOL Keep up the good work.
Jim M. Great theory, Jim.
buckeyelisa, just so you know,in addition to running through several conspiracies and other weird and/or elaborate scenarios here at BOC- We have all agreed that the 4 guys in black are quite interesting. We would like to know more bout them, and whether or not LE dimissed these accounts, found them and interviewed them ect.
DS stated that she thought this group could be her and her friends, but she wasn’t sure. She did say that the girl spotted the next morning wasn’t her, and thankfully she came out early and said it was her in the Ytube vids.
So yes, we have wondered long and hard about the 4GIB and whether or not they were the group Morgan was seen walking with/ but not with to the rvlot. As Cosmo just asked, to my knowledge, they have never been identified.
Cosmo, Not sure, but the RV lot is used by the athletes when there’s large events being held in the arena. If only we knew more. Were the ones in the parking lot she was seen with athletes or concert goers? What did the text messages between Morgan and her friend sixty miles away say? I wish there were some photos of the RV lot that night we could look at. Was it filled with athlete’s cars, traveling groupies, stage hands and staff/security worker’s cars? I keep wondering if she was invited to the beach…whodunit…all the blanks filled in soon I pray.
radiogirl says:
March 2, 2010 at 10:07 am
suz 11:32 ,a beautiful post about Morgan.
I concur — as are all the posts — Mom.3.0, you still amaze me
I only have a brief moment to read – busy work day —
great posts — may everyone’s feelings that things are about to break be true.
I know this sounds strange, but I am glad it’s been awhile before the arrests — in the beginning, when they definitely found her remains just thrown into a field or into the woods I was just so angry, and heartbroken, that No. 1, anyone could just take a life and throw it away like it was garbage, and No. 2, for the world’s loss of Morgan — now my feelings are turning to sorrow and pity for the person(s) who did this — that their soul is so black to have killed her and thrown her away like an empty beer bottle on the side of the road.
As Suz said, maybe she knew her time was short, so she lived well. Years ago, I attended a deposition of a statistician. If someone dies, like in a car accident, they get these life tables to estimate how long that person would have lived, and their earning capacity, projecting it into the future, and those are part of the damages in the civil case. So they were deposing this statistician to get those types of projections. During the deposition he gave out statistics that people who are going to lose their lives soon often have a sixth sense for no reason — they start getting their affairs in order, like up to a year in advance — they become closer to family — they start giving away their possessions — and he had the statistics to back up that research.
My nephew died from complications of juvenile diabetes when he was 19. He had such a promising future. He worked for a surveying/engineering company. He had worked there since he was 16 and such a hard, competent worker, they made him head of his survey crew, and they were sending him to school — paying for his full college fees — to get his engineering degree. He got the flu, refused to go to the hospital, even though his mom did everything she could to get him to go, then died overnight. His poor mother knew something was up, he didn’t call in to work and she went to his apt. and found him dead on the kitchen floor — he died on my son’s birthday
But he lived at the beach and a few weeks before he died, he came to Richmond for work and he took us out to dinner, which he was very proud of. He called my cousin who related stories of my brother growing up — they talked for several hours — then he was dead a month later.
There are so many lessons our beautiful shiny girl has taught us — I think there’s a country song — Martina McBride ?? — that says something like: live like you are dying.
Good advice. You may never get that second chance to say I love you, or I’m sorry, or extend a kindness to a stranger – - or to an enemy — or to someone you love or like. And especially to old or disabled people. After my fire accident, I was at the hospital at least three days a week for 2 years — I was not allowed to drive, so I had to wait for medical transportation, which was a God send — but I’d see these elderly and sick senior and disabled population trying to open some of the heavy doors of the older parts of the hospital and healthy men would just stand there and do nothing.
My non-returning DVD, head-banging son and I butt heads a lot ! But underneath he is a good kid, w/ a great heart. he opens doors for everyone.
If Morgan has taught us anything, it’s not just to open doors, but to open our hearts.
Reading posts, trying to catch up from yesterday — I think you’re all just great !!
Hummingbird, glad you’re back — i’ve missed your posts —
I am so so so sorry for what happened to that young girl — Va. changed the way school buses pick up kids now — I can’t imagine the horror of her mother — my thoughts and prayers are w/ you and your community —
I’m just lurking, I only have 8 more mins.
B gets my vote for best post of the day >>
I will answer you this way- if my cheese could be made into a jumpsuit, that young buck would be wearing it.
B
Blink, I understand your comment above, about your cheese being made into a jumpsuit it’d probably be on EMH. Buy why no arrest yet, if it’s that simple? Do you still believe this will in the end have implications reaching into the wealthier community? EMH is not from money and there is no great land wealth in his background. Nor are most of the people who have been hinted at on this site or others. But there are a few connected to the music scene…not musicians themselves, but their groupies, who may come from wealth. Are these the ones you’re interested in?
I feel stinted in how I can reply except to say that respectfully, he has family with plenty of cash.
B
so is there the suggestion of a group/gang?multiple people involved?in the act? or in obstruction of justice? is it possible she was at the copely/ivy intersection later than 9:30? say she was in lot til closer to card usage ,gonna walk to 7-11,and someone from lot follows in car and insists on ride,so she at intersection later say 10:00-10:15.
RE my comment at 12:53…there are probably more wealthy people around here who are NOT connected with the music scene, if you think about it.