Beauty and The Beast: The Predictable Murder of Yeardley Love By George Huguely
Disclaimer–
Charlottesville, VA- At approximately 9 PM the evening of May 2nd, George Huguely, V left a golf outing he drank at all day, visibly intoxicated according to fellow attendees. It was the beginning of the end of a rancorous binge drinking track record for the prodigal son of George and Marta (Sanson Murphy) Huguely.
It was the gruesome end for star athlete Yeardley Reynolds Love.
Yeardley said ITS OVER to the heir of Huguely’s family’s century old lumber business and spent the last weeks of her life in fear George would make good on his threats.
Sources inside the circle of Love and her family have stated that the most recent threats and public observation of the couple occurred at Huguely’s former frat, Delta Kappa Epsilon.
Following this incident, Yeardley left campus and stayed at her Cockeysville home where her Mother, Sharon Donnelly Love, begged her to file a police report.
Yeardley refused as she did not want it to interrupt the last weeks of both teams winning seasons. She believed because the last scene was so public Huguely would have no choice but to back off for fear of compromising his status on the UVA mens team.
For anyone unsure about the locker room brethren, as reported by NY Daily News:
A former Virginia student who was friends with both Love and Huguely described a disturbing incident in which Huguely recently reportedly attacked Love, then had no recollection of it the next day, which precipitated their final breakup. “He was really messed up and punched a window of a car on the way over to her apartment that night,” the friend said, speaking on the condition of anonymity out of consideration for Love’s family. The friend said Huguely had been seen breaking bottles at another party before Love’s death and had told people he was going to her apartment to get Love back.
D K E
While Huguely is not listed as an active brother on DKE roster, this Falls newsletter touts an impressive Rush week which rounds out the Dekes with 14 Varsity Athletes; 12 of them from the men’s Lacrosse team. The DKE roster has not been updated to reflect active brothers since 2008 and an email request to alumni affairs director Ian Graham has not been returned. The DKE facebook account has been deleted.
By all accounts, in retrospect, Yeardley’s murder was a predictable incident. Preventable.
Not inasmuch as it could have been foreseen per se, but Generation George was a time bomb.
Incidents abound from his days in Palm Beach where he jumped ship after an argument with Generation G4 whereby he swam to shore as well as his arrest for drunken swearing and THREATENING TO KILL A COP WITH A SIDE OF RACIAL SLUR in November 2008.
There are 8 UVA Men’s Lacrosse members that have had alcohol related arrests in the last two years.
Nationally ranked 2008 Team Captain Will Barrow stunned the entire lacrosse community when he committed suicide two weeks after Huguely’s Rockbridge County arrest.
Ryan Nizolek, #24, was arrested in High School for smuggling steroids into the US from Mexico on a family vacation and brought them to school in a Rolaids bottle.
As the news broke of Yeardley’s murder I have been inundated with emails and texts from several UVA students and their family members that have been admonished not to speak publicly, not to accept new facebook friends and not to answer any questions from the media on or off campus.
The paradox of telling the grieving and concerned matriculation to effectively zip it, after doing just that may have cost Yeardley Love her life, is absurd.
A witness who observed the last physical confrontation between Love and Huguely email excerpt to blinkoncrime.com provided on the condition of anonymity:
…”You have to understand.. He is a big dude with a bigger personality. If anyone has ever told him no, I am not aware of it. It was obvious she did not want him near her. She told him that, and it took 3 of us to hold him back. She was a little thing and she put on a good face, but I walked away feeling like that was not over. I said to lax(xx) that asshole is going to get himself killed or kill somebody. He was nicer on the turf for f*cks sake, I didn’t get it…..”
We are all obsessed about our last year in the game. Everyone parties like rock stars because half of us have more money than rock stars. Well, our parents do.
That is bullshit about him not being a Deke, btw. He beat up a fellow brother in his sleep drunk off his ass one night because he was sleeping on the couch he wanted to sit on, or go to bed on or whatever- He was booted and his friends wanted to stay. That pissed him off royally. His Dad partied with us once in a while. I remember wishing he was my Dad, and then I saw those two go at it. I would still have been cool with a Dad that is that loaded, but not if it meant Huge was my bro.
It wasn’t so much that he was raging all the time. It was weird. It was more like he was 2 diff people. You know what I mean? Like a mood swing on crack. DON’T publish I said he was on crack. Roids for sure and there was mention of an 8 the day of the murder. It was almost like he felt like he was insulted when he was around better players than him. He loved the sport but he had no respect for anyone if they were better in the X.
Do I think anyone intervening could have stopped a murder? I am not sure if that is a fair question or a set up.
My Mom asked me the same thing. I told her I did not get it. There is tons of Hoo Pumpers everywhere, especially this season. I never saw him without some chick, so I don’t get that part. He was a big clamper I heard though, if he didn’t have something cookin. It was not like he could not **** anyone he wanted. He was always like .. Give and Go Bro, everytime I saw him and I had a date. Tell me if you don’t know the lingo but I think you might. I heard ya got skills.
Lol, I am aware that only happens in college before you say something lecture-like.
I really wish I knew that nobody knew what was going on with him. We woulda pulled that scared straight shit on him. Like his version, shop at target instead of Abercrombie for the rest of his life no beach houses. That mighta been harsh of me to say before now. We just hate what he did to his girl, and our last year. I worked my ass off, we all did, and it should have been our thing to remember. Instead, it is fu***** lockdown.
I have reviewed UVA Athletic Director Craig Littlepage quotes on the matter.
Frankly, as an editorial, that verbiage would not have flown from any coach I have ever had, or respected, regardless of the sport.
“They never told me, nothing was reported to me” is the equivalent of ignorance of the law, which is no defense.
How do 8 arrests and a suicide, among other “not so documentable” infractions NOT constitute a red flag, or an intervention?
Safety does not come with a price tag. It comes from accountability and awareness. Huguely posted bond following his arrest on November 15, 2008.
Somebody had to know he was incarcerated. He had a public defender in that case so the question is– Who posted it and how was the fact he was off campus for a few days prior to the Thanksgiving break missed by his coaches?
At the time of this writing, the Virginia Commonwealth has issued an order sealing the search warrants in this case retroactively.
While the justification of that request by Charlottesville Police has not been released, it is an unusual move in a case that has not even seen its first bond hearing or an indictment.
Could it mean that Huguely is connected to the murder of Morgan Harrington?
Virginia State Police, who maintains jurisdiction in the Harrington case is emphatic it is not.
..”It was a Lacrosse player who discovered the purse. However, there is no evidence to indicate any connection between Morgan or the Love homicide. .. There is no connection between these two homicides, so I am not going to even entertain the additional questions. We are not identifying the individual who found the purse…” Corrine Geller, PR Manager VSP to blinkoncrime.com
Morgan’s purse was located by an unidentified male lacrosse player on the way to boarding the bus to an exhibition match in Annapolis, MD.
We have a player accused of first degree murder that by his own statements has had violent encounters with others he has not remembered.
We have players with land connections to the area of North Garden as well an individual who has personally preformed site survey work on Blandemar and Anchorage Farm.
Have all the Lacrosse players been questioned about the circumstances of finding the posession of a missing and murdered woman who was last seen on the UVA campus?
The cases may be may be unrelated.
The Harrington’s buried their daughter Morgan.
The Love family is burying their daughter Yeardley.
Isn’t it time for a little disclosure as to whether or not these lingering questions have been asked and answered?
Yeardley Love, will receive her Bachelor’s Degree in Political Science with a minor in Spanish posthumously with her class from the University of Virginia.
Love’s family and friends begin receiving those wishing to pay their respects today where she will also be laid to rest tomorrow, in Maryland.
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I am bringing this over from the FM forum and hope that is ok. This is from Bill Thomas whose sister and her friend were killed 20 plus years ago and is still unsolved. This is his opinion which I respect very much. It is concerning Morgans murder.
My the way am I in the right church..wrong pew again?
Originally Posted by billthom56
OK, I’ll start. Some people in Virginia law enforcement whose opinion I really respect feel that the Charlottesville Police Department has been terribly underutilized in the Morgan Harrington investigation, and they may actually have very experienced homicide detectives who should be actively involved in this case going forward.
They feel that Virginia State Police need to be working with other agencies.
Bill Thomas
Brother of Cathleen Thomas
Here is the quote from the 5/24/2010 edition of People:
“Students say Huguely’s aggressive behavior was triggered by alcohol. Some of Love’s friends were “aware that George was not nice to Yeardley,” says the mother of a UVA student close to both Love and Huguely. “But she wasn’t the only one dating someone on the lacrosse team who has anger issues.” (A spokesperson for UVA’s athletic department refused to comment.)”
http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2010/05/13/virginia_lacrosse_killing_blake_miran
B,
I am just wondering if there is a new piece on Morgan coming out soon. The last one was very good but, I can’t help but feel that connected or not, it just doesn’t seem right to keep posting about Morgan on Yeardly’s thread…. I love how you guide us to connect the dots and I believe until we find justice for Morgan she desrves her own thread!
I am going to ask you to keep the faith on this one.
But yes, I am working on a new piece as we speak.
B
Thankyou for your heartfelt post Observer you have been on my mind
My thoughts and prayers are with the Harringtons.
We will not abandon our fight for Justice for Morgan.
I was somewhat heartened to read this article today.
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/supreme-court-sexually-dangerous-can-be-kept-in-prison/19480063#?sms_ss=email
Sorry, just an afterthought here…..Yeardly deserves her thread and her justice as well!
Re: Judi
Your long posts are posted on the other thread about Huguely. http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/05/03/former-duke-lacrosse-accused-teammate-arrested-for-murder-of-uva-woman/
50.anotherB says:
May 17, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Anyway, I believe her, she either saw Morgan, or someone who looked exactly like her. If the occupants of the rooms were out on this day, maybe she just got the house wrong?
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That is hard to say anotherB, what I am sure of is that this was one of the few instances where VSP publically refuted an eyewitness account. I do believe Ms. Pasons believed what she saw and that it was determined (as far as VSPs viewpoint) to not be related to Morgan. You can either choose to believe VSP, based upon what we don’t know, or not believe VSP, based upon what we don’t know. Only VSP knows WHY they believe her account to not be connected and “they ain’t saying”, nor are they obligated to.
B Says:
I am going to ask you to keep the faith on this one.
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Blink, I feel you have some “finding”, that may link these two cases together in some way, perhaps in a more apparent manner than originally thought? I understand you can’t comment directly at this point, but do you believe LE is on a similar path?
Disecting UVa’s apparent lenient culture towards serious breaches in conduct could prove quite intriguing and possibly beneficial for Morgan’s case. What IS known and what SHOULD BE known appears to be lacking when it comes to UVa and it’s “code of conduct”.
Judi said:
1. Judi says:
May 16, 2010 at 11:40 am
I know my posts usually don’t draw a lot of responses, but I am really curious about your feedback on this one…
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First off Judi, that makes me feel terrible that you think that! If you knew how half asleep I am reading posts most of the time, and by some of my responses in general, you might be glad I don’t comment often. LOL!
But, this snippet I completely can see have occurred:
“This person being an athelete, a fellow college student, probably charming and good looking, and from well means, Morgan trusted him and she went to their place, not far from the arena, possibly thinking he was taking her to a bigger party where more people would be to party for just a little while until the concert was over. Also, if Morgan was upset, that too may have made her more likely to say “F*** it, sure why not”, even if she did get a feeling of caution. Turns out he takes her back to his place, no one else there, they have a couple of drinks, he tried to make advances which Morgan rejects, he gets angry and the rest is history. He probably got angrier yet and blamed her after he realizes what has happened, thus inflicting further injury.” -end snip-
*I think she probably initially declined the offer, but once out on the bridge walking she realized it really stunk walking in the rain & cold and he conveniently passed her way. I don’t disagree with the remaining portion of your theory, I am just unsure about the shirt deal. I think our killer had it, just not sure how it resurfaced.
* I truly hope you are correct about VSP. I definitely do not think they had any prospects of relating Morgan & Yeardley at first glance. I am hoping as they investigate further they uncover leads that they had never anticipated.
Re: your questions in the other post, I would love to know the answers as well!
http://www.readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2010/05/11/dangerous-rage-what-compelled-huguely-to-attack/#more-32708
Indepth article in the Hook. Lot’s of theories for GH’s defense to implement at trial. Substance abuse, brain disorders, male jealousy tendencies. At least the comments from the community disagree.
TO: acho and Hummingbird: Thank you so much for your kind comments; however, please do not ache for me. I have not lost a child as have Dan and Gil Harrington or Sharon Donnelly; it is these individuals for whom my heart breaks.
Instead, please know that your continued and passionate support for these families is one of many beacons that lights my way, keeps me going, and keeps me focused on that task at hand: doing what I can to affect change so that threads like this become unnecessary. You may not know it, but many of you here serve as “a lamp unto my feet…”
May we never again have to struggle with the brutal murder of a young woman whose whole life was ahead of her…
My god, we agree.
I would have to agree on this one, LE using the word passerby is not deceptive, imo.
I never heard LE say the Pantera shirt was not Morgan’s.
B
Can we get a new Morgan thread? The Morgan conversation doesn’t really belong on this one, unless and until there is an actual proven connection.
Zamms-
respectfully, that is my call. Conversely, you are welcome to post your factual opinions on why you feel that way.
B
@ Observer May 16, 2010 at 8:25 pm
“Were UVA–or any college or university–to suspend or expel any student found guilty of drunk in public, the outcry would reverberate around the country. The same would be true of students who are convicted of misdemeanor resisting arrest. I hesitate to say this but sadly believe that there are many, many parents out there who would rail against any university who would expel their child for either of the above convictions–or any other misdemeanor convictions. I might only hope I’m proven wrong with that sentiment.”
Thanks for that! I wasn’t aware of the legal issues in this case.
Regarding the situation you describe, I believe it would in fact have made a difference had GH been suspended from the team (based on previous convictions in combination with the assault that hasn’t been reported to the authorities). It would have made it clear to his team mates, that this behaviour would not be tolerated, and he would have realized, that he may not get a university degree if he continues to behave like this. Maybe this would have convinced him to get treatment.
Today I had my first experience listening to my “gift of fear”. I live in Northern Michigan, in a town of about 13,000. Pretty safe and quite, not a lot of crime beside the unfortunate domestic violence, date rate, drug crime and the like, but not very many random acts of violence so we tend to be pretty complacent around here.
Today we finally have some nice weather, sunny and 70 degrees so my 7 year old son wanted to go for a nature walk around a little island that we have here in town. This island is at a park which runs along the main street in town, very busy intersection across the street from the hospital, fast food joints and such so not secluded at all. Well, the little island is, very heavily wooded with lots of fun trails to explore, fishing platforms, benches, just a real nice place.
My son and I parked in the parking lot and while we were walking across the little bridge to the island, a man on a bike road by on the bike path but he continued on towards the downtown area. A few minutes later, he came back, and proceeded to ride his bike onto the bridge and onto the island. My 7 year old was concerned because it is very clear that there are no bikes allowed on the island and the man had to manuever around several obstacles to get there. He made me feel uncomfortable, he was about 35, wearing jeans and a tattered polo shirt, smoking a cigarette, clearly in my opinion not someone who would be out for a bike ride, he had no fishing pole so I knew he wasn’t going fishing…
He rode his bike up the middle path on the island and my son and I were going to start off on the trail that takes us around the perimeter of the island. But, my instincts said NO. He doesn’t belong here, something isn’t right, I feel uncomfortable, this area is too secluded. So I told my son that I was a little uncomfortable with this man, I wasn’t going to lie to him, and said that we should sit on the bench so we were in plain sight until someone else came along to walk the island.
In a few minutes, 3 women came and were going to walk around the island so I told my son (after we picked up some good size “walking sticks”) we could go ahead and start. Remember, it is in the middle of town, people in the park, 6:00 PM on a beautiful day.
We were ahead of the women but apparently took a different path and we walked down some stairs to stand on a fishing platform because my son had a net and wanted to catch some frogs. There was a man in a boat, fishing on the river about 40 feet away, definitely shouting distance. The next thing I knew, the man on the bike was standing at the top of the stairs!
I was scared, my heart was pounding. I was thinking, should I go up the stairs or should I just take the path along the river. I decided to march up the stairs, I knew the other women were not too far ahead, and then my son and I kept on the path as fast as we could go to keep up with the others. We ended up just hanging around in the park out in the open but I was disappointed that we didn’t get to enjoy our walk as much.
Was this man really a threat? I don’t know, probably not. I really felt uncomfortable, he really was out of place there, for one thing like my son pointed out to me that, “mom, this man is breaking the law, he’s not supposed to ride his bike on the island!” For a 7 year old, this is a huge offence! But to me, he didn’t have a kid with him, no fishing pole, not dressed to be out for a bike ride unless he was on his way somewhere, and there was nowhere for him to go on the island! At first I was going to brush off my fear, I wouldn’t want to offend him, but then I remember reading The Gift of Fear, and I felt that I had every right to not trust him. I was glad that I did read it and will keep teaching my children that it is ok not to trust a stranger, that other people should respect our boundries and certain people, even seemingly nice, should act appropriately. I was also honest with my son, I told him that I was uncomfortable around the man and that we should wait until we can be more safe.
Had the man been a jogger, dressed in shorts and with an IPod, would I have trusted him, probably however I also need to remember that appearances can be deceiving! What a perfect ruse, to look like you actually fit in! Will we ever be safe? Can we ever trust?
Sorry this is so long but I felt like I really learned something and am actually proud of myself for listening – to myself!
OSU-
You will never forget today. You listened to your satellites.
Whether he was a bad guy or not is of no matter.
You listened to your voice and you taught your son to listen to his.
Bravo, listen to it without fail and don’t ever doubt it.
B
osu – Good for you for listening to your sense of alarm. Thank you for sharing this experience.
Re: yoshi says:
May 16, 2010 at 5:56 am
Thank you Yoshi. However, according to UVA ’08 graduation program, the initials of the brother of snow cone guy are not CRB.
http://www.virginia.edu/majorevents/finals/archives/2008/images/program_graduates08.pdf
Does anyone know the full name of the land appraiser/surveyor with initials CRB? He was involved with appraising Blandemar Farm and Anchorage Farm.
Unrelated MWI-
B
At UVa, this campaign recognizes the various acts of violence against women that have occurred on our campus this year and in past years.
Among these are the loss of Morgan Harrington, the act of racial intolerance recently committed against two 4th year female students, and the tragic passing of our 4th year classmate Yeardley Love.
From the White Ribbon Campaign Against Violence Planned for the UVA Graduation
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=113366525371341&ref=ts
Also from Newsplex
http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/93945654.html
As we mourn the loss of Yeardley, we must now concern ourselves with the broader causes of her death, and be proactive in preventing crimes like these from happening again.
This campaign presents a unified message and commitment from our graduating class and from the university community that acts of violence will not be tolerated here. As graduates, let us move forward by pledging to put an end to the violence and demanding our right to lead violence-free lives as we leave the university.
Dear Judi I really look forward to and enjoy your posts but don’t always post however I have read every post on this site since Morgan went missing and will continue to do so.
I thought your theory was very interesting and quite possible. The sighting by the newspaper lady has always nagged at me and I would feel better if I knew she had been called in to look at a line up especially as she said she saw one of the guys on campus at a later date. It bothers me that students will be graduating and getting the hell out of Dodge making it much harder to track a possible student or student/athlete perp. I also have a feeling there are other “connections” between Yeardleys’murder and Morgans killer, and look forward to Blinks new piece she is working on.
Yeardleys’ mother and sister put on a very brave face and attended the girls LAX game, and it made my heart hurt at the same time as increasing my admiration for Yeardleys’ family. Then there is dear Gil, fearlessly blogging in her raw , intelligent and brutally honest fashion, that makes me cry and feel genuine love, respect and compassion for her and Dan. Such standup people, such loving families , such beautiful luminous young women, their precious daughters, our sisters.
Observer you are also the lamp under many peoples feet here methinks,and Blink as well, it calms
me to know you are fighting violence towards women and children one day at a time and very effectively I might add.
Both of you and many of the contributors here have taught me so much and humbled me in a way. Hopefully I will pay it forward however and where ever I can.
It makes me happy to think that we are able to help in any small way, by continuing to show our support for the families here on BOC
Yes Osu, I too listen to my “gift of fear” much more than in the past and make a point to congratulate young people who listen to their intuition and act on it. Good on you for being alert and teaching your son by your example to keep his eyes open and trust his instincts. Thankyou for sharing that experience with us in such detail. I felt as if I was there with you and your son, and felt your fear. You were so brave to march up the stairs, prob safer than heading out around the perimeter of the island.
Last weekend my ex husband who loves my daughter, and is a big strong man who sometimes just doesn’t think …would drive me mad when she was little…. sometimes he would go into a store and leave her in the car. It just used to make my hair stand on end….part of the reason I divorced him actually.
Anyway recently my current husband and I were going to a friends for dinner on a saturday night. My daughter who will be 15 in July was invited but did not want to come along. I called her dad and he agreed to go to the movies with her. On my way to the dinner I spoke to my daughter and found that they were going to separate movies at the same movie complex. My ex had already seen the movie my daughter wanted to see. I had an argument with my ex and he hung up on me 3 times but I kept calling him back . My husband was so mad. By this time I was so stressed out and upset. I called my daughter and said she flatly was not allowed to go to the movies on a saturday night alone, and that if her dad would not attend the same movie as her she was to stay at home, that under no circumstances was she to do that now or ever again. I vaguely remembered that they had done this before. But this was before I witnessed Morgans abduction etc. My daughter got mad at me and cried and asked why I was so down on her dad, and that it was a waste of money for him to see the same movie twice,
I said it was his job and my job to protect her, and it was not about him seeing a new movie, but about him accompanying her to the movies whether he had seen it or not. He ended up refusing to pick up his phone to me, but did call her and agreed to sit with her .In the end they bickered about it and did not go at all. She sat at home alone, which was safer than being at the movies but still bothered me and I worried that night and kept checking up on her. I was not popular with either of them. but think I got my point across and established a boundary. They roll their eyes at me and insinuate that I am addicted to bad news.
Well I have had my eyes open and do not live in fear, but I am a lot more vigilant than I used to be. I have shiny Morgan to thank for that.
Dear Morgan who knows how many lives you may save,you are our little Rock and Roll Angel.
Peace to the Harringtons and the Loves. Justice for Morgan.
My dearest Hummingbird-
I do not Know if I am the benchmark for “right”, but I would have done exactly the same.
I would have been ok if she had a gf with her with her cell as well, alone, never.
B
Thank you Blink. It’s good to know when a line of thinking is not leading to useful information.
I agree with that and good point.
B
To Hummingbird & Osu:
I commend both of you for your actions. I have always been ‘overly paranoid’ as my daughter tells me. She recently told me everything isn’t always going to be about a murder story. Well, I am sure we all wish she were right. But on the same note, she bought her girlfriend a copy of The Gift of Fear. Her friend is one who likes to read true crime and is off on a trip to Ireland. She asked me for a suggestion, and that is what I made. I was rather proud of that, she has not read it yet, but I downloaded it on the kindle for her to read. Then me. So I can attest to all the things you all have taught me and everyone else that reads here. I thank everyone of you.
I also can’t wait for the next piece you are working on Blink. I find reading the comments on these news articles to be rather revealing. Seems some people are busting at the seams to add detail to GH’s alleged behavior. And possibly some others within the same network. Have we confirmed his most recent living situation? Just trying to figure the sleeping on the couch reference made the AM of arrest. Was it closer to Yeardley’s apt than going home?
Also, VERY curious about the sealed records. Wonder what they found. Anything that doesn’t belong to Yeardley?
And Blink, are the sealed items things none of us have seen, or is it some things that came out and were then redacted?
Blink,
Another article that makes me shake my head…
http://www.nbc29.com/global/story.asp?s=12495087
UVA Wrong About Arrest Notifications
Posted: May 17, 2010 3:50 PM EDT
Updated: May 17, 2010 10:48 PM EDT
Police agencies in Albemarle County and Charlottesville agree say there is not a specific system to notify University officials when a student is arrested in either jurisdiction. This after a statement by the University’s dean of students in a press conference, days after lacrosse player Yeardley Love was murdered and fellow lacrosse player George Huguely was charged, that indicated such as system was in place
Good for you hummingbird. I hope for your childs sake that she understands why you restricted her going to the movies alone. I don’t know what size your town or city is or where you live, but you cannot let fifteen year olds go anywhere by themselves or just with a girlfriend. They need adult supervision.
Sounds like your ex is all about himself and wants to act like a teenager who is a biological parent and not an adult. Some people never grow into being a full adult no matter how old they get.
to osu: I am glad you shared this with the others in the group.
One of the things I was taught at an early age by a policeman was to always look ahead of where you are and to notice the people in the area. If someone looked like they were out of place, they probably were and you should observe them carefully. If you had any feelings of unease, then you should remove yourself from the possible danger. Don’t become a victum by trying to be brave and continue on.
“A judge will hear arguments today asking for an order sealing search warrant records related to the slaying of a University of Virginia lacrosse player to be made public.
An attorney representing The Daily Progress (through parent company Media General Inc.), the Washington Post and the Associated Press filed a verified petition for writ of mandamus May 11 asking for the order sealing the search warrant records in Charlottesville Circuit Court to be unsealed.
The document also requests any motions, briefs and other documents related to the sealing order be made public.”
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/crime/article/hearing_today_on_sealed_huguely_order/56248/
I’m sure that most people- at least in the C’ville/ Lynchburg areas-have seen this. Although burglary may be a different beast than the subjects we’re talking about here, this guy seems to have extensive knowledge of both Lynchburg and Charlottesville and is predatory with respect to the operations of those businesses that were burglarized in the respective jurisdictions.
http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/93949679.html
It certainly doesn’t hurt to look into the matter given there were two incidents that have been discussed on BOC that occurred within a week of one another, 10/2009, in each city.
No stone left unturned.
Re: A Texas Grandfather may 17th @ 11:13pm
Quote: Sounds like your ex is all about himself and wants to act like a teenager who is a biological parent and not an adult. Some people never grow into being a full adult no matter how old they get.
Ha Ha well said ATG well said….. that is exactly the case!! Heck I could have saved myself years of therapy and heaps of guilt if I had of been offered those words of wisdom from you when I divorced my ex husband a few years back.
Reminds me of some of my favorite lyrics in a John Prine song I love to sing, called “Angel From Montgomery.” Quote “my old man’s just another child that’s grown old.”
I live in the very big city of Los Angeles, and we have had our fair share of horrible crimes against women and children here in California of late.
Thanks to you also dear Blink, it helps to have a bench mark on these kinds of issues. Teenage girls are so much more perplexing and high maintenance, they want to fly from the nest but their wings are not fully developed, or their little bird brains either, and they are especially vulnerable to predators, even in their own homes now with the internet etc. They don’t want you around , but they desperately want you around “holding the fort” so to speak, sort of like backdrop providers in their very own play. I find I have to be more “present ” than ever before in my daughters life. Once I was a nightingale and I used to sing and flit around a lot at night, but these days I stay home most evenings ……Luckily enough my daughter loves to be at home and still likes doing stuff with her mum.
Making a lot of bird references here aren’t I …oh well I will go back to hovering now, after all that’s what hummingbirds do best.
Dr. Harrington, thanks for bringing over those two threads about the White Ribbon Campaign (May 17, 10:15pm).
There is also a good article about John Casteen in the recent Alumni News Magazine.
http://uvamagazine.org/features/article/the_builder/
I think it’s important for people to learn more about UVa before they make too many assumptions and make rash accusations. There is much more to this community than a few are willing to understand. These articles are just a start.
I agree.
B
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/crime/article/hearing_today_on_sealed_huguely_order/56248/
Movement on the sealing order today, we hope …
Thanks guys, this should be very interesting.
B
Thank you for the link, In Memory of Gini.
The following comment caught my eye. Apparently there is a grad student in Philosophy who has anger management issues.
from comments on:
http://www.nbc29.com/global/story.asp?s=12495087
“UVA Grandstanding (May 17, 2010)
Richmond, VA
I worked at UVA and had a graduate student in philosophy to threaten to kill me. I reported him to administrators who did nothing except to tell me that I needed to understand that the students at UVA are under a lot of stress with studying…”
To everyone who offered me their feedback on my own personal theory about Morgan, I thank you!! Just wanted to see what you all thought of it. Also, thanks for letting me know where I hid my own posts from myself (LOL)!!
Justice for Morgan. Prayers for the Harringtons.
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18.Hummingbird says:
May 17, 2010 at 10:17 pm
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Hummingboard: BRAVO!!!! Bravo for standing your ground!! It is ALWAYS better to be safe than sorry, especially when our kids are involved, and especially if you had a bad feeling about it anyway!
You go girl!
Correction – Hummingbird (not Hummingboard). Sorry – LOL – need more coffee
24.localcvillegirl says:
May 18, 2010 at 6:49 am
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My gripe is not about UVA specifically, but about the way colleges across the country handle, let’s just say situations, that may occur that may reflect negatively against the school and how they handle these “situations”. I have never been to Charlottesville, but I have read and I am sure it is a lovely town with lots of good people. Evil is not restricted to one place. Unfortunately, it is everywhere.
Judi, I guess a lot of my “gripe” if you want to call it such is that so many who comment about our area do so without having ever set foot in Virginia, not just Charlottesville or Albemarle County, and have never walked the grounds of the University. It’s hard to know what we are like when you only hear or read about the warts and know nothing about the beautiful complexion of this area. I am thankful every day of my life as I look at my now healthy father, for the great facility that is part of UVa Health Services. I know that the majority of the students at the University are good people, maybe they do party more than their parents would like, but they also give back to this community in ways that many never realize. They work with our young people, work with our seniors, work with our underprivileged communities providing mentoring, tax help, legal and medical assistance and many other voluntary services that receive little or no recognition. People like George Huguely are aberrations, they are not the norm. We have our faults just like every area of this country, and often we are our own most vocal critics. I’ve visited a lot of areas of this country and I can truthfully say, even with our faults, I am always anxious to get back to this town. It’s home, and if you are not here, you might not understand why, but it’s the place I always feel safest.
While everyone is striving so hard to point out the faults here, please take a look at your own towns and colleges. Like Judi said, evil exists everywhere. If we only see what’s wrong with others and do not see what is wrong on our own doorstep, we are all deluding ourselves. Maybe that’s what happened with George Huguely.
Well besides just selling lumber and being the big estimated 10-20 million revenue maker, The Huguely Companies is a private company categorized under Apartments and located in Bethesda, MD. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of less than $500,000 and employs a staff of approximately 1 to 4. 4424 Montgomery Ave #204 Bethesda, MD 20814
Being that they serve the Washington, DC-MD-VA- AND WV area…wait, WV? Blink, anyone whose name has been mentioned before worked for them as purveyor, I mean surveyor? A while back I posted a link to some survey work completed for the Anchorage which listed a surveyor company as the 4 G’s or 5 G’s. I was never able to determine just who that company was…did you have any luck?
Are we still focusing on location, location, location connections?
(Also I thank everyone for thoughts concerning an incident I mentioned last week. To answer your question Blink, I can not speak about specifics in a public forum such as this, but in reference to the assessment, I think even in tragedy A LOT can and should be learned)
CW-
I tried looking for this all morning, lol- To the best of my recollection, were we sure that was affiliated with Bass?
B
Well, in a few months the “Professional Bull Riders” are coming to the John Paul Jones Arena. Another example of the University enlightening the minds of the citizenry. The riders should feel right at home.
I have not seen the following information listed on this thread and would like to share with everyone. Here is an article detailing an attack made by a UVA LAX student and a Princeton student on a Princeton student in 2007. The victim suffered a broken cheekbone, broken nose and broken orbital socket.
http://blogs.thesabre.com/?p=911
The UVA LAX student graduated in 2007, but was listed as a Student Assistant Coach in 2008 after being indicted in this vicious assault.
http://www.virginiasports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=17800&ATCLID=1133523
FWIW.
You were in spamalot, my apollies
B
Thank you MsL, your posts always make me feel better.
I’ve got a link here for UVa’s Madison House. We’ve been looking at schools with our kids and have seen nothing like this anywhere. It’s just one of the reasons why UVa is so important to our community, and why we appreciate the school so much. Graduate or not.
http://scs.student.virginia.edu/~madison/
I’ve seen the work “Cavs in the Classroom” do in our local schools through my own kids classrooms. I knew these young people came from Madison House. I did not realize the full extent of Madison House involvement in the community until I clicked on your link. Thanks for providing a link to what is best with our young people (not just her in Charlottesville, but all over the country.) We see the face of evil so much, that sometimes it’s just real important to also see the face of good.
Now, there are some very nice folks who rodeo. One of my neighbors is a calf roper and team roper and his wife is a drum runner, a barrel racer. I used to get up close and personal with a few 55gal. oil drums myself – and I still have the scars on my legs and only wear jeans – never shorts – too many people would see my scars and ask if I had been in a wreck…. well, sort of….caught between a 1200 lb horse going 45 mph and a sharp rim. Oil drum 3 – MP zero -horse=dog food…….I’m kidding – he lived to be 29 and passed in his sleep.
I have been busy with end of the year school things -I need to catch up-
Blink- thanks for fixing the link and helping me locate it- very interesting comments- DTA- you are welcome- glad my question could help others find your link.
Observer, Hello- I appreciated your post. I agree with you, we need to learn from these horrible tragedies, so they will never be repeated.
Observer, Can you tell me what happened in the earlier case I linked to: Did they ever find out who the attackers were and were they students?
http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stories/13629/tech-reacts-to-anti-gay-attack
Osu thanks for sharing your story, I am glad you listened to your GOF
Hummingbird- thanks for sharing that- I know it is hard being a parent- especially to teenagers- Its even harder when you are so often put in a position of being a “killjoy”.
In my experience, Dad’s don’t always see the same things Mom’s do.
One parent often times joins in on the fun or plays the role of letting the children grow up and spread their wings- pushing the little ones to do things for themselves by themselves- sometimes that parent needs to be shown it is too early or too dangerous a situation to let them test the waters-
The best parents are those that can balance one another out, and take turns being the killjoy and the joiner-I am sure your ex didn’t think he was putting your daughter in peril-I am glad you stuck to it until a safe resolution was found- Even though they were both mad at you, she was safe and that is all that matters.
CW- glad to see you and as always great work.
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9.Eloise says:
May 17, 2010 at 6:22 pm
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Thanks, Eloise!
Blink, please give me a day or so and I’ll rediscover the link. I’m sure that according to the link, that was the name associated with the Anchorage. It was a Saturday when I discovered the link and I remember specifically calling around to a few different Charlottesville area surveyors in attempt to see if a local working within the same realm would be familiar, however I was not able to get any solid information. I even went as far as contacting a few pizza restaurants thinking the name was associated with a specific restaurant chain who was an LLC of Mr. Bass and his pizza fortune….
-if my memory serves me correctly… I’ll find it up when I return home. Happy Hunting.
CW–I remember searching bunches for the “G’s.” Seems like it was some sort of investment firm?
Mom3:0–I have wondered and wondered about the attack you refer to above. Who hurt these young men? Any arrest and prosecution? The mind set of someone who would do this is very disturbing to me, and I wondered if there could be a connection to Miss Morgan.
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OT/We too have been busy with end-of-the year school stuff. Just hosted a teacher appreciation luncheon. THANKS TO ALL THOSE WONDERFUL TEACHERS OUT THERE!
I will be the first to admit that I am CLUELESS when it comes to court proceedings and all that jazz. Who would have the warrants sealed? I thought GH’s attorneys would have in this case, if they didn’t…who did have them sealed? Someone must request that correct?
http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/94124844.html
“The lawsuit was filed jointly by three media outlets: the Washington Post, the Associated Press and Media General, which owns the Charlottesville Daily Progress and the Richmond-Times Dispatch.
The Charlottesville Commonwealth’s Attorney, Huguely’s attorneys and a representative from Media General were all in attendance Tuesday morning. Huguely’s attorneys say they took no action to have the documents sealed and added that they have no position on the matter.”
Minnie Penney-Hey girl, I’m impressed. You know, one of the greatest country music singers, Reba McEntire, got her start on the rodeo circuit. Think she was also a barrel racer, but was discovered singing the Star Spangled Banner. In addition to being famous, she’s a true humanitarian through her charity work. Don’t know how “enlightening” her performance was, but she recently performed at the arena to a near sold-out audience with George Strait. IMO, one gorgeous man and a real gentleman. My point, the professional bull-rider or the person who attends the competitions (personally, not my cup of tea) are not the ones who are full of bull c–p.
How does this connect to Yeardley Love or Morgan? doesn’t, just felt like saying it.
I remember reading initially about the existence of tree cameras located around the vicinity of where Morgan was found. There has been very little mention since. Has there been any update about them?
“An Albemarle County Circuit judge will reveal her ruling May 26 on a petition to unseal an order used to seal search warrant records in connection with the killing of a University of Virginia lacrosse player.
After a hearing this morning on the petition, which was filed on behalf of the Richmond Times-Dispatch, the Daily Progress of Charlottesville, The Washington Post and the Associated Press, Judge Cheryl Higgins said she wanted additional time to review briefs before rendering her decision.
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In a letter filed Monday in court records, Huguely defense attorneys Francis McQ. Lawrence and Rhonda Quagliana said that they didn’t seek to have any materials relating to the search warrants sealed by the court and weren’t part of any hearings or communiqués regarding the sealing order.
‘We take no position with respect to the sealing of these documents,’ the letter said.
Dave Chapman, the city commonwealth’s attorney, said in court that the city is in the midst of a criminal investigation and prosecution.
‘We have a duty that this is a proceeding that can take place in the city of Charlottesville,’ Chapman said in court. ‘We have a duty that this is a trial that can take place in front of unbiased jurors.’”
http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/state_regional/article/hearing_tuesday_on_sealed_huguely_order/100796/
Well how about the fact that the judge has a conflict of interest??
B
I believe you stated that Judge Higgins formerly worked at the same firm as Huguely’s defense attorney, or that they were previously law partners. Assuming the judge is not related to the attorney and there is no continuing business relationship, the situation does not clearly call for the judge to recuse herself.
It is really up to the judge, subject to appellate review, to determine whether she can act impartially.
Further, I am not aware of a motion filed by either side asking the judge to recuse herself.
The U.S. Supreme Court has stated that a judge should recuse himself/herself when an attorney or a party is a major contributor to his/her campaign (not an issue here since judges not elected in Virginia); when the judge has a financial interest in the case, and when a judge’s previously involvement in a case makes it difficult for him/her to be impartial.
Here is a link to the Model Code of Judicial Conduct:
http://www.abanet.org/cpr/mcjc/canon_3.html
See, section E (Disqualification).
Here is a link to a Virginia Ethics Advisory Opinion stating that a judge does not have to recuse himself/herself merely because a party, attorney, or witness is an acquaintance of the judge.
http://www.courts.state.va.us/agencies/jirc/opinions/2001/01_08.html
I will point out that U.S. Supreme Court Justice, Hugo Black, famously refused to recuse himself in the Jewell Ridge Coal case, which was argued by his former law partner. In that case, Justice Black sided with the majority in a 5-4 decision in favor of his former law partner’s client.
I will also point out that, unlike the Supreme Court, if the Hughely case goes to trial, it will be decided by a jury.
To Blink & CW:
I remember when you all were looking at the 4-5 G’s. That came on the Bass land assessment thing you were looking at Blink. And someone asked what is the G’s. I had found that Energy Star home website came up with builders names and home improvemnet co’s that are Energy Star approved or whatever. I have that link. I dont know if that’s what you are looking for? Or about the connection. But I saw w/ my own eyes Bass had 5 G’s as ? builder.