Kyron Horman Missing: Watch Press Conference Live
Portland, OR– The last 24 hours of the case of missing 7 year old Portland child, Kyron Horman, has the community boiling over with speculation that Terri Horman, Kyron’s stepmother, is a suspect in his disappearance.
As reported exclusively on blinkoncrime.com, Kyron’s Uncle Kristian was incarcerated yesterday for child molestation charges.
This afternoon, Multnomah County Police released a flyer they have distributed to the parents and students of the Skyline School that seem to call into question whether Kyron and his stepmom Terri were even at the school on June 4, 2010.
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Odd for a starter to fail in a newer heavy duty truck. It seemed to be running fine a few days earlier.
According to local Oregon websites, Kyron’s Bio Mother divorced Kaine when she was 8 mo. pregnant. She raised him initially and remarried Det. Young, but decided to hand over primary care for Kyron to Kaine when she had to travel to Canada to deal with kidney transplant surgery.
SM was apparently a friend of Bio Mom’s, and for some reason she moved in with Kaine in order to help provide care for Kyron; as well as moving her own son in. Seems to be portrayed as some sort of arrangement of convenience; maybe SM providing care for Kyron while his father worked, and in exchange Terri got a roof over her head for herself and her own bio son. Supposedly started platonic, then evolved to the point where Kaine and SM got married and had a daughter of their own.
Everything in this story is SO hard to follow. There were multiple reasons given why SM’s 16 y.o. son went to live with his grandparents – supposedly to get away from a drug-riddled school (which, the one he left is supposed to be a VERY good school), or because he wanted to live on their farm since he was interested in raising horses, etc. Now, it appears that SM’s son went from living with her parents, to living with his birth father? And something about SM’s second husband, who adopted her son at the time, is paying the child support (to the first husband now, because he has the teen?)
I really really don’t understand this.
Regarding my post #26…Blink is absolutely correct and as I stated, I do not know the child… I was just commenting, period.
Sorry Blink, please delete that post if you feel it appropriate to do.
I think it is important to note that Terri raised this little fellow from an infant. I do not think she felt burdened by him. She easily could have passed him back to bio mom. All LE has said so far is that she was the last to see him. That is true of me every morning when I drop my kids off at day care. I am unconvinced of her involvement based on what we actually know of this case, which is very little. And I think it is incredibly irresponsible of LE to allow her to be the focus of the investigation without stating that she is the focus. If I were her, I’d be afraid to leave my house.
Sorry, I forgot which computer I was on. Susan above, is me. I wanted to add that in addition to being a respectable member of society and an adoring mommy of twins, the following is also true of me:
1. I had a DUI a long time ago.
2. I have a son who is in his late teens and lives in another state.
3. I have an uncle who is a registered sex offender (and many more relatives who are sex offenders but haven’t been prosecuted).
4. I am on my second marriage.
5. I have never killed anyone.
I am thinking that maybe someone else may have a white truck like step mom? or maybe they are thinking that someone else had Step moms truck? I don’t know why people are using initials on BOC as it is okay to talk like adults here and use the names of people instead of talking in code… lol I mean if I am calling someone a POS it would be different but no need to use them here… thanks I always have a problem with who the initials stand for.
I am soooo wondering about the photo too and when it was taken.
Blink do you have any idea about that yet? I have a feeling this case is going to get even more complicated?
Just fyi all…it’s not MCPD, it’s MCSO (Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office).
Do we have any reason to believe that SM may have had an interpersonal relationship with the teacher? The one who dismissed his absence to the bathroom. It just seems that there should have been a different response made and definetely a follow up. I wonder since SM is a teacher also and had volunteered in that class. This might lend her to be more lenient towards SM. Adding in the bookbag deal, something is wrong with the way that situation was handled. Maybe we are not privy to all the details.
I relooked at the family video. I may be tainted in my view. But did anyone else get feeling that when BM started to get further upset when SD was speaking, that Kaine moved his arm from Terri and up to BM’s right shoulder. I could swear he was slightly pinching/pressing her. Now maybe some will say he was issuing support, but wouldn’t you gently rub someones back and look over at them and give a reassuring look. Instead, he was looking straight ahead with no emotion. SM acted like she thought BM was going to lose it. I wonder if they fear she will be a loose link somehow?
I also thought BD used the past tense in his brief remarks. Something to the effect-”thank you for what you all have done”. Again, would it not be, thank you so much for all you are *doing*, we really appreciate it etc…
I do believe that the future ‘appt’ Kyron was due to have may have provoked some kind of event. Maybe there was chronic bedwetting or other issues that had gone unresolved and the MD picked up on some issues. They may have therefore rec. a specialist, leading to the teacher statement. Maybe there is someone(s) that didnot want that appt to occur.??
Please tell Mr. Blink Happy Father’s Day from all of us here! We appreciate him and are so thankful that he “lets” us have quite a bit of your time. I’m sure you and the Blinkettes have a wonderful day planned for him. Curiosity is getting me again…does he work with you here and/or in the field? I’ll bet he has a gigantic heart like yours.
Thank You and Happy Fathers Day to All Dad’s on Here, and all Mom’s who might have both Holidays covered!
Mr. B and I do not work together professionally whatsoever; I recommend it
B
I don’t know if this link has been posted before. I wonder if the “hitting the gym” comment (if true) was taken out of context. We all tend to gravitate towards more familiar territory during times of stress. The SM was an accomplished body builder and maybe that’s just one of her familiar territories: http://yfrog.com/0h181189jpgkyronstepmompuj I’m rooting for the SM, I really am, nothing in me wants to believe that she had anything to do with little Kyron’s disappearance.
I don’t know why people are using initials on BOC as it is okay to talk like adults here and use the names of people instead of talking in code… lol I mean if I am calling someone a POS it would be different but no need to use them here… thanks I always have a problem with who the initials stand for.
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I’m guilty of doing that at times. I usually refer to Kaine as Kaine, or Kyron’s father because he’s really the only significantly mentioned father figure in this situation. Sure the stepdad, Tony Young, has likely been a father figure as well, but he’s been kept out of the media spotlight it seems, so there’s not really, imo, much chance for people to get confused as to who is who. With the women, I tend to refer to them as SM(Stepmom) and Bio Mom for clarity sake.
i read on hinkymeter (i believe) someone commented that step mom did have a second poly. maybe everyone did…who knows. what i do know is that for police to publicly distribute questionaires with so many questions directly focused on her (the last person with Kyron), they haven’t really gone out of their way to publicly clear her as well (knowing that these fliers might cause the speculations to rise). i would feel terrible for this woman if this turns out to be wrongful speculation piled on top of genuine grief and motherly guilt, but until we know more either way there aren’t many other plausibilities for us to think.
Vidda, it has been stated by others, but the article definitely implies that Desiree no longer had a relationship with Kyron’s Dad Kaine when Terri started looking after him..
And Susan, I agree. If the stepmom no longer wanted responsibility for step-child, I think she would send him back to bio mom rather than hurt him.
You know, I’ve been reading and re-reading the Korman family Statement that was released yesterday because something about it bothered me … I just figured out what that was – the final paragraph.
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Kyron Horman Family Statement
It has been two weeks since our son, Kyron, disappeared. For the last 14 days we haven’t been able to talk to him, see him playing around the house, or tuck him in bed. Any parent would understand the grief this has caused our family.
We are so grateful for the support and work of the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office as well as the hundreds of searchers, police officers and FBI for what they have done during the last two weeks. They have never met Kyron but we know that this has been very tough on them also.
To Kyron’s teachers and classmates, as well as the media and the community, thank you for your support in trying to find Kyron. Your interest and help is overwhelming.
We are sorry that we aren’t there today to stand with investigators, but please know that we fully support the release of this flyer. We want Kyron home and we hope this will help do that.
Father’s Day is Sunday. For the first time in seven years, we will not have Kyron around to hug and talk to. It hurts us deeply and our hearts are broken.
Please help bring Kyron home.
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I guess, what is bothering me is that the Family obviously feels resigned to not seeing Kyron again as they made this comment in advance of Father’s Day despite the fact that neither he nor his body has been recovered and thus – in public – there is still hope that he will be found safe.
There is obviously a lot of info known behind the scenes and things going on that we are not privvy to. My heart is breaking for this family and for little Kyron.
My hopes are, that this last statement was “placed” and “worded” as it was on the recommendation of authorities to let the perp know that a hint as to Kyron’s whereabouts – even if deceased – would be most appreciated … an attempt at tugging on his heartstrings; if he actually owns anything remotely resembling heartstrings.
Ahhh little Kyron be strong whereever you are. One day there will be answers – of that I have no doubt.
The link to the Korman Family Statement in my last post – I neglected to add it!! Sorry.
http://www.examiner.com/x-32312-Amber-Alerts-Examiner~y2010m6d19-Kyron-Horman-update-Read-statement-by-family-on-Kyrons-disappearance-and-Fathers-Day
Now, after reading the Statement from police as to the reasons for the Survey being released for completion by anyone present at Skyline on the 4th – I am convinced that it is being done in an attempt to clear SM.
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http://www.examiner.com/x-32312-Amber-Alerts-Examiner~y2010m6d19-Kyron-Horman-update-Read-statement-by-Captain-Gates-on-rumors-and-Terri-Horman
Captain Gates statement on Kyron Horman case
First, we want to dispel any rumors that Kyron has been located. He has not yet been found and we ask the community to continue looking. Kyron, we are still looking for you.
These erroneous reports have come through the social media. We ask the professional media to please continue to verify information with our PIO Lieutenant Mary Lindstrand before releasing. We don’t want false rumors to harm our investigation efforts and they are harmful to Kyron’s family as well.
The search continues and the investigation is continuing on several fronts. I cannot comment on specifics but can say that our detectives and searchers are continuing to follow-up on many leads to include establishing and verifying information relating to Kyron’s activities prior to his disappearance.
As reported in the press conference on June 14 we are initiating a second canvas of everyone who was at Skyline School on June 4 in order to ensure that we reach every person who was present on that day.
Detectives work in this case is exhaustive and they, along with Kyron’s family, are asking for the community’s assistance regarding anyone who saw not only Kyron, but also who may have seen Terri Horman and/or the truck she was driving that morning. Terri is the last person known to have seen him before he disappeared.
This information is being provided after discussion with the family, all of which have agreed with us bringing the information to the community.
Adults and children in the school or on the grounds, specifically between the hours of 0800 and 1600, even if they have already been interviewed should still complete and return the questionnaire.
We understand that the community has many questions. We can ensure you that our primary goal is to not make any mistakes- to be as perfect as we can in investigating this case. There are many decision points which are discussed and filtered among investigators, deputy district attorneys, command staff and other experts.
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I have come to that conclusion because of previous comment by Blink that they were searching for a suitcase, container etc. during their ground & water searches.
1) They have stated that both Terri & Korman were indeed seen by others at the school looking at the science fair presentations – the issue is who saw either/or/both after Terri says she last saw him. This survey will get any of those reported sightings down in writing (& perhaps should have been done sooner).
2) They also know that Terri did make it back to her home, at the very latest, by 3:30 pm when she showed up to meet Kyron at the bus only to discover that he wasn’t there.
3) Yet, the survey asks for all adults at/on school grounds from 0800hrs to 1600hrs to complete even if they did not see Kyron or SM as given in the statement above. Is it possible that one of those adults or children may have seen someone remove a large conatainer or suitcase from the school after 0800 and before 1600hrs (when police would have arrived there due to the 911 call). This survey would allow them to establish who was there – and possibly follow up with further questions of “did you see someone removing a science fair project in a large box, suitcase or container by any chance?”
4) This would also allow for follow up questions of “well, when you saw SM leaving the school was there anyone else around?” “When you saw her truck, did there happen to be anyone else in the area or another vehicle?”
Fort some reason, I am now firmly convinced that Kyron was removed from that school in a container of some type … unseen by anyone. That could have happened anytime after SM watched him walk down the hallway until 1600hrs when the police arrived and the school was searched thouroughly more than once.
Knowing that SM was home prior to 1530, leads me to believe that the police are using this survey as a tool to gain other contact data that can be used to establish adult movement to/from school that day from as many people as possible with a view to following it up with yet undisclosed “more specific” questions. IE: If 10 survey responders also note that they saw so&so, but so&so fails to complete a survey – the LEOs have another avenue to seek. Same with anyone removing large containers at whatever hour.
I have looked at the picture of Kyron in front of his science project and keep wondering what others asked. Where is his left arm and was Kyron put onto the picture rather than actually appearing in the classroom?
Bio Dad is an engineer at the company he works for. Could it be that rather than sending a big check to real mom every month “he” decided it better to raise Kyron? I wonder if that was step moms choice? Sometimes people make choices for us that are not in our best interest.
Stepmom seems to have a different kind of troubled look. Could she be suffering from Post Partum Depression? She is certainly not the body builder we see in those pictures.
Then I wonder who else would do this to little Kyron. I just don’t see a RSO going “inside” a school to snatch a little boy. The uncle draws suspecion but he seems to like young girls and I believe there is a pattern in SO’s.
I don’t feel he is that close in the water pond they are searching. I think she would have taken him farther than that if indeed she did this evil deed. Whatever was she doing in that white truck at 2am?
The confusion over the “taking him out of school” and the teacher having a hearing loss. The SM not showing up for the program that afternoon at the school and then the school bus phone call.
I can see why attention is being given towards the step mom. She has a whole lot of “splaining” to do.
The fact that this is the second poly tells me either some of the questions were not answered truthfully or they now have new questions to ask her.
The net is being drawn up and the only fish seems to be step mom.
copied from
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_blended_family_f/4053/comments-11.html
HollysGmom June 20, 2010 at 4:35AM
“Together seven or eight years puts them joining “together” as a couple
between June 4th of 2002 – June 4 of 2003. In June of 2002 Desiree would have been approx 4-5 months pregnant with Kyron. In Sept 2002 Kyron was born. Were Terri and Kaine already a couple prior to pregnancy discovery in early 2002? Terri also divorced in 2002 from Ron Tarver. Was there infidelity at the root? Terri also stopped substitute teaching in June of 2002. This was around the same time as her divorce from Tarver. Also noted that Terri was not gainfully employed after her divorce from Tarver. Apparently Kaine was paying the bills for her during this that time. In Carol’s previous statement she says that Terri has raised Kyron. She’s been with him since he was an infant (Infancy is from birth to 1 yr old). She’s a mom to him because she had been with Kaine since the time Kyron was born. (Paraphrase). If these sentences by Carol are true, Terri and Kaine had been together since just BEFORE Kyron’s birth in Sept 2002 or very soon after.
Carol Moulton’s account certainly puts Terri and Kaine “together” around the time of Terri’s June 2002 divorce or just after, She definately had moved in with Kaine in 2003 as she went on the sub teacher list using that address. “After moving in with Kaine in 2003″ is the quote from article. (Carol Moulton first claimed that Terri moved in during 2004 -Details Emerge article) At that same time Kyron had been living with his biological mother Desiree UNTIL 2004. So Terri lived with Kaine +/- 6 months PRIOR to his receiving custody of Kyron. Sort of blows the whole “moved in to help out” claim out of the water, doesn’t it? … “
Well Elizabeth, if indeed it WAS stepmom in that truck at 2am (which is yet to be confirmed & thus purely speculative on your part)… perhaps she was out looking for Kyron; he was missing you know. I sure as heck wouldn’t be able to sleep comfortably and would probably be out roaming the streets at all hours looking if my child was missing.
Just a thought.
Are the family computers being examined to make sure he wasn’t “photoshopped” into that picture?
le might also be attempting to give the perp some false sense of security by not clearing step mom. by inviting the public to come forward they are inviting the perp to insert himself in the investigation and hoping he is stupid enough think they are focusing only on step mom. I don’t think it is going to work. if he has made a tip in this case he has done it already. le would be better off in my opinion by clearing anyone they can (sm first if possible) and then moving on to the next. and maybe they are trying to do just that. I have nothing but guesses.
oh, and I use initials because I’m typing with thumbs on my phone and trust you all know what I mean by now when I abbrv.
As well, someone has already posted on this site to the fact that the afternoon’s “Talent Show” was intended for students only … vice the parents so SM not attending it indicates absolutely nothing nefarious.
The police have also confirmed that Kyron and his mom were INDEED actually AT the science fair that morning before classes started, so I think the speculation that “he was photoshopped into” the photo can safely be put to bed. Shall I post a pic of my own kids with their arms behind their backs to prove that it also means nothing nefarious? Funny how those with minds made up can turn the simplest of things – that on any other day in any other circumstances would be viewed as normal – into “meaningful guilt” without any evidence to back it up.
See the 6 Jun Press Conference again: Two teachers confirmed having seen Kyron (See Shelby Statement)in the school that morning, but there were no confirmed sightings after 0845hrs (which co-incides with SM timing). The LEO in this video confirms that he was seen, but not after the SM says she last saw him. http://www.kptv.com/news/23953863/detail.html
As for a 2nd polygraph: Why the automatic assumption that she failed? It is also possible to assume she passed and that giving her a second one – which she may also pass – would allow the police to emphaticly state “enough with the speculation – she has passed TWO polygraphs”.
Assumptions can go either way – it’s all the manner whereby one chooses to “assume” without facts to back it up that results in witch-hunts (quite possibly in the wrong direction) and idle gossip, rumour and innuendo that hinder, rather than help, an investigation. And, I’m pretty sure that the LEOs have asked for that speculation about the SM to STOP as it is indeed impeding them. Watch the press conference again.
Please wait for all the facts to fall into place before condemning someone to internet trial based upon nothing more than speculation. My “net” is not yet closed … or anywhere close to being closed.
imo, the last paragraph of the statement shows that le and the family do not expect kyron to be home for fathers day. but I don’t think that is the most significant cue. I wonder who they are talking to and why the communication has been so male oriented. it tells me the perp is a male and a father and has the potential to be scared by tony and emotionally compelled by kaine. I am thinking relative of kaines. sex abuse typically is insidious in families where it occurs. I am betting uncle kristian is not the only perp related to kaine. we have more reason to opine that kaine himself might have had incest issues than sm. but again we have nothing but guesses.
I was reading sex abuse stats the other day and found that womwn who have been sexually abused tend to continue the cycle by hurting themselves, ie 80 percent of prostitutes have been sexually abused. alternately, when men do not get help for abuse, men who have been abused act out toward others. there is a lot we don’t know and even more we don’t want to know about the dynamics of sex abuse in the horman family. but chances are kristian is not an anomoly.
ArmyVern: great post!
Something else I noticed about the family’s statement: There is no plea or request to the person that “took” Kyron in their statement. Nothing along the lines of: “Please tell us where our child is.”
This makes me think the parents already know what happened to Kyron and possibly who is responsible for his disappearance.
Where is the SM’s baby daughter during all this ? someone was watching her.When and where did SM retrieve her?
The photo of little Kyron with his tree frog project looks photo shopped.I’m sure this has been discussed before.Were there others here that felt the same way or has this been ruled out officially.TIA,R
I would like to add to my above post. If stepmom is innocent and truly loved Kyron and took good care of him then everybody has done her a great injustice and her burden becomes ours.
Raising another child is a tremendous responsibility. I don’t believe there were any mentions of visits from DFS or any police calls to the residence. I have heard nothing of the school complaining of the parents or little Kyrons school record regarding attendence.
Everything has to be taken into consideration.
Somebody further up the comments was asking about bio moms medical condition. The reason Terri was raising Kyron. I found this in the Oregonian.
“Kyron was born Sept. 9, 2002, and Kaine and Desiree were officially divorced in 2003. Kaine and Desiree shared custody, but Kyron mostly lived with Desiree until 2004, when she went to Canada after suffering kidney failure.”
Elizabeth -
if you go to the Washington State Sex Offender Registry, & click on the SO’s name, you can see what the conviction was for, the SO’s preference for victims (age, gender), & in some cases, method of preying. There’s at least one that states, in black & white, that the SO enters schools & retail establishments to remove victims. Not every SO will, but there are some that do.
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FYI: There’s a man/blogger who does Statement Analysis, & he’s an interesting “read” – he’s requesting statements from the SM to analyze; regarding the Kyron case, his url is:
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010_06_01_archive.html
In thinking this over a bit, I do believe LE is seriously looking into SM as a suspect and this is not just to clear her name. The truck is not back yet and is likely in some police crime lab being analyzed. The second polygraph is probably to ask more specific questions that weren’t asked before. And the fliers are probably just that, to jog someone’s memory as to her wherabouts that day. This woman still does not at all strike me as a child murderer but that is not to say that she didn’t hand Kyron over to someone who was…. there are certainly some possible motives.
I’m no detective and these are just thoughts going through my head this morning…
If LE felt that there was a child preditor or kidnapper on the the loose do you honestly believe that they would call this “isolated”?
The LE has stated 2 different times that SM and Kyron was seen by 1 other child. But that is the only sighting of them at the school that morning. Older son and Dad were on a boy scout campout until around 3pm on Sunday. But on her facebook page as late as 8pm she would respond that her husband was not home from trip yet.
Boyscout website has write up on the trip.
I am a parent of an 8 year old who has volunteered time in his class room for 3 years. When I go to school functions all the kids run up and hug me and the kids introduce me to their mom’s. Heck they run up even in the grocery store. I find it hard to believe that in the 45 minutes that SM and Kyron were at the fair there was not at least 10 kids and 5 mom’s that would have seen them.
I also find it hard to believe that the parents released a statement thanking his teachers and staff at the school. If my child was lost while at school and I was not contacted I would be shouting from the roof tops.
When I plan and let the teacher know of an upcoming doctor appt is is marked in the computer for the day that is planned. Also teachers keep a calendar on their desk that most teachers write planned absents. SM indicated that she filled out paper regarding upcoming doctor appt. This is handled by the school secretary who in turns marks it in the school computer. To have two different school personal state the child had a appt for that Friday so there was no need to call the parents.
The science project itself is very nicely laid out with signs that a parent helped put it together. This shows loving and involved parenting. Mom volunteers at the school also a sign of loving and involved parenting. For the most part I feel that Step-parents are mothers and fathers that step up to the plate.
Didn’t I read somewhere that the SM had called the school at some point and asked when science projects could be removed? And the school said “anytime”? Does anyone else remember reading this somewhere? I’ve read so much on this I can’t keep it all straight. Do we know whether Kyron’s science project was brought to school in a container? In all of this you keep asking yourself, WHY? Blink I know you don’t think it’s a RSO stranger, and you don’t think it’s the SM, so that doesn’t leave much except some other family member OR a faculty/maintenance employee of the school – but it almost HAD TO BE someone (and this part would include the SM) who would know there are no cameras at the school and where all the closets are….and then again it’s just so bizarre to think ANYONE would take a boy out of a busy school in a container (at which point he must have already been incapacitated in some way). And then Blink you have said you absolutely feel this crime was sexually motivated. Then what would be the point of incapacitating someone unless it’s a temporary type of incapacitation, such as chlorophorm? (in which case, the odor of it would have been detected). This case is one of the most strange I have ever followed in many years of sleuthing as a hobby. My heart breaks for that little boy, he looked so happy that day.
I meant “chloroform” in that previous comment.
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Did someone bring their science project or supplies in some type of suitcase, duffel bag? There has to be a reason for them looking for one.
Is a family member missing luggage? Remember in the Sandra Cantu murder, Melissa (the killer) made some bs story about her suitcase being stolen.
Sandra was found in said suitcase.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/the-kyron-horman-petition This petition has been started in an effort to require by law that all schools across the nation provide safety and protection for children. The petition was written by fellow Portland, OR resident. Kyron’s school is 13 miles from my home, a 22 minute drive. I am still horrified that this happened. Protect children.
“Kyron was born Sept. 9, 2002, and Kaine and Desiree were officially divorced in 2003. Kaine and Desiree shared custody, but Kyron mostly lived with Desiree until 2004, when she went to Canada after suffering kidney failure.”
I just listened to the interview with Jaymie Finster, Terri’s friend, and she said Terri has cared for Kyron since he was 3 days old? That doesn’t match what’s above.
Also, I saw a picture of Terri from what was probably a year ago (her daughter on her lap, Kyron and Terri’s older son, I’m assuming) and Terri looked quite a bit different. Noticeably thinner and just different. Someone in an earlier post suggested maybe post-partum depression, and I wondered looking at the pictures if maybe something was going on with her. Not that weight gain is a crime (THANK GOODNESS
) but sometimes it’s a sign of other emotional issues, and for someone who is used to being as fit as Terri, that might be even more true. The point for bringing this up is that Terri might have some “stuff” going on that has not been obvious to others. Not that it would make her hurt Kyron necessarily, that’s not what I’m saying, but just that it might affect her responses and interactions with others and/or LE.
34. SS says:
June 20, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Didn’t I read somewhere that the SM had called the school at some point and asked when science projects could be removed? And the school said “anytime”? Does anyone else remember reading this somewhere?
Yes, SS, I read that, too, and at the time thought it was kind of a non-sequitur, but with the suitcase/duffel bag comments above, now I’ve gone there mentally . Still, I don’t see how… but then, I don’t see how Kyron could just disappear, or how anyone could hurt him, either.
ArmyVern- you seem upset at people making speculations as to what happened. Are you a friend of the family’s?
Calling people on here simple minded? Has defensive written all over it.
I live in Portland and trust me, the finger pointing on here is nothing compared to what is being whispered around the city. You can’t change that.
I submitted two posts earlier today that went from pending to vanished. Any chance of finding them? Thanks.
I had noted that Terri also posted a couple of additional photos from the fair (or from some time when all the student projects were set up, seemingly in a classroom). One of them is of Kyron’s friend and his project, which was also on Red-Eyed Tree frogs. That project can also be seen in the left rear of the photo with Kyron. Another is of his project without Kyron. All three of those photos seemed to be of the same room setup.
(My previous musings about oddities in the photo weren’t really focused on the left arm, but on the “shadow” along the right arm. Seemed wrong for the lighting; that’s all.)
I also noted that friend(s) comments on facebook pictures of the 16 yo noted how happy he was looking working with animals under the guidance of (stepmother?), as if that was a change/improvement.
That’s all I recall at the moment.
Have they appeared good lady?
B
I have only commented once or twice on a different case, however, I find it hard to believe Kyron’s StepMother had anything to do with his disappearance…Please Do Not Attack me for saying so! It seems as though she is willing to endure ALL of this scrutiny WITHOUT defense as to allow the investigation to find what it will, hopefully Kyron! MY Opinion Only and I could be completely wrong! Hopefully Not! Thanks for all you do Blink!
Blink, where was Terri’s daughter when she and Kyron were at the science fair?
is it a fact that SM drove the white truck to school that day? and I too am curious about where the baby was all this time…did SM have the baby with her?….did she leave her with someone?….
where was SM’s older son?….does he have an alibi?….and while we’re talking about lie detector tests, who else has taken one?…
I am leaning towards the SM doing something but nothing adds up….and there is NO evidence that she did anything….people should remember that…..
and no, I do not know her nor am I related and I don’t even live there…..
I can’t see a stranger grabbing him…he would scream…if he left the school he was probably with someone he knew or trusted, or he was already dead or drugged…
God bless the child….
Armyvern- you make some very good and valid points. If Terri had nothing to do with this, what a horrible experience to go through – your child is missing and you are vilified by the public unfairly. Many parents of missing kids go through this and you can see why some parents never recover. However, from the start, this story didn’t sit right with me. The police do know a lot more than the public and we’ll just have to wait to see what comes of it. To the poster way back that is blaming the teacher – the teacher kept working with no disciplinary action against her – why would that be? It may be because she did nothing wrong! Sorry, too many weird things with Terri. Who tells a teacher about a medical appointment a week in advance at a science fair? Something weird is going on and I believe the police are just tying up loose ends – we should hear something soon.
New moms are the latest addicts in the epidemic of Rx narcotics. It starts in the hospital after a c section or injurious birth. They will do anything to get the drugs or get money for said drugs.
Sorry, I posted on the previous thread. Having a few software problems after an update.
This is my first comment on this blog, which I found through the Missing Kyron Horman Facebook page. It’s nice to see people here trying to use logic and statistics to figure this out instead of just stating the obvious. I live in SW Washington, about 20 minutes from Portland. Early on, everyone in the school district I work for was forwarded an email from Kaine Horman. I have been busy with my daughter’s graduation and had forgotten about it until today. The email was addressed to all Intel employees in response to another email alerting the staff about Kyron’s disappearance. Since I’m not sure if the email was supposed to be forwarded through our district email, I don’t feel comfortable quoting or pasting it in here. (You can find a copy on the internet.) However, there are a few important details that may shed some light.
Kaine gave two “optional” suggestions to his fellow employees. One was to post info about the disappearance on Facebook accounts. Second, was to not talk to the media. He added that he was checking with Intel legal to get some help with that issue.
He also said that it was the bus driver who called the school when they discovered he wasn’t on the bus. Then they, in partnership with the school, called 911. I have seen some criticism of how the school or 911 was called, but the way Kaine describes it sounds reasonable to me.
I think that Tony Young’s influence on the family has not been fully appreciated. The first thing he said at the press conference was “I have been asked to speak on behalf of the family.” Clearly, they were looking to him for guidance. And if he has the typical LE distrust of media, he could be the one telling the family not to speak. I have been more surprised by the MCSO’s reluctance to give information than I have been by the family, especially with all the negative backlash. Jason Gates nearly yanked the principal off the stage when he was being questioned by the media and he let slip the words “criminal investigation.” (It had not yet been labeled as such.)
On the 6/18 Victoria Taft show (KPAM Portland radio), a Skyline parent called in and said that there was no question that Kyron was at the Science Fair Friday morning because her husband and two children had seen and spoken to both Kyron and his stepmom. She then reiterated that there was no question they were there.
It seems to me that at first they didn’t think the step mom was involved because there was no reason to suspect her. But now, they’ve eliminated all the other possibilities and there’s no one else to blame.
The hitting the gym comment that got everyone up in a tizzy about Terri is a lot less damning when considering her background (Which I had no idea about beore reading it here!) I used to know someone who did bodybuilding and I have to tell you that it’s like eating to them (Much to our confusion) and that it’s not even a possiblity to think you’d skip it. The woman I knew went in the day she got out of the hospital…..AFTER a c-section!! She said she “took it easy” but that getting back to the gym was the only way for her to “get healthy” again. Going to the gym if the police had told her they were handling it and there was nothing she could do might have been the only thing she felt was going to keep her sane.
I still just feel very strongly that she is not involved. If she was involved, I think we’d all have to agree that it was pre-meditated based on the fact that she only had 3.5-4 hours from the time she left school to the time she posted the pic on facebook and that’s not accounting for drive time, picture loading time (This takes me twenty minutes) etc.
Finally, I again look at this from a “mommy” standpoint. Terri has been the primary caregiver of this child and from this Youtube video I watched http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-sp8kvGOz4&feature=related which includes multiple pics of Kyron I am more convinced she’s not involved. Look at the Easter basket from this year (Based on age of daughter shown in pics with him). Tonka truck basket, huge chocolate bunny, metal truck… This is not a SM who is one bit preferential to her own bio daughter over Kyron. Look at the dollar bill practically framed (I am assuming from the tooth fairy based on the missing tooth pic) Next look at the glasses, I see at least two pairs in these pictures. Having a daughter that needs glasses, let me tell you this is time consuming to replace glasses and go to the doctor with them etc. Science fairs are optional, showing up with your kid at school that morning was optional. The fact that she did is SCREAMING at me that she cares about him. I didn’t see one pic there where he’s looking at the camera WITHOUT a huge smile on his face. This was a truly happy kid.
Now reconcile that with cold-bloodedly premeditating his murder on a tight timeline and it just doesn’t jive. Parents that are this involved with a happy well adjusted kid might kill thier child, but it’s more along the lines of “snapping” and the timeline doesn’t add up for a situation where she could have “snapped”.
Honestly, I hope she gets a lawyer. Innocent people are targets of investigations wrongfully and the fact that she keeps going back for polygraphs and cooperating has already made me feel comfortable that she’s not involved.