New Clues In Kyron Horman Search: Fact or Fiction- You Decide
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Portland, OR-Over the last week, much information has been developed about the extended families of Kaine and Terri Horman, and the circumstances with which Kyron came to reside primarily with them, visiting Mom and step-dad Desiree and Tony Young on monthly visits.
One thing that is not clear however, is how Terri Moulton Horman’s oldest son, 16 year old James, came to live with his maternal grandparents after living with the Horman’s until this past January. He now lives with his biological father who gave up his rights to him to Terri’s second husband, who stills pays child his support.
He is believed to have been on a Boy Scout camping trip with his father Ron Tarver and his half-siblings the weekend Kyron went missing.
By all accounts, and certainly by all photos, James and Kyron were *tight* brothers from another mother.
Although it has not been confirmed by Multnomah County Police, it is believed that the focus on Sauvie Island, and the surrounding area is related to cell phone pings from Terri Harmon’s phone the day of Kyron’s disappearance on Friday June 4th. According to family friend, Terri was asked to take a second polygraph this past Saturday, and was frustrated and tired at investigator’s questions as “she was where she says she was.”
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Frequently, in our team’s development of information and analysis on the cases I feature, readers and listeners ask my opinion on several items of information that I may not be prepared to release out of context. In some cases, they are working theories. It is however, how we handle our “war room” and take raw data to reportable data. This case continues to baffle so many, I thought I would take this opportunity to show our readership how we work behind the scenes. Pardon grammar in advance, these are actual excerpts from our collective work stations.
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Priority Lead #1
Tanner Pumala, 8 year old desk-mate of Kyron Horman, was the last person to see BOTH Kyron and Terri Moulton. He is his self-professed best friend, and also his neighbor. His grandmother, Wendy Fuhrer, allowed him to speak to the press, although she was specifically asked not to. As he is a minor, it would require a signed release from his parent or guardian.
Finding of Facts:
No mention of his Mother, Lisa Fuhrer Pumala
Tanner’s account states that the substitute noticed Kyron was missing from the headcount. He said she alerted the regular teacher, Ms. Porter, who told her he was probably in the bathroom.
Subissue for Flagging:
There was NO substitute that day. She had been there Monday through Thursday. Why would he offer that specific account, and simultaneously say that Kyron told him he was headed upstairs to the “cool electic one”? As his deskmate, wouldn’t he interject that information?
He was interviewed by BOTH the FBI and MCSO, and asked not to release his information, but did anyway. Who or what really prompted this?
He remarks he did not see him on the bus, so the day goes by, including the talent show, with no further discussion of Kyron although he would not have been in the bathroom for several hours.
However, he states he was not aware Kyron was missing until that evening, when his DAD saw it on the news.
(Jason Mateos Notes: Could the duo simply have wandered outside together at the prospect of catching a live frog for the exhibit and accidentally fall in the pond and the child is scared.
Blink Response: Plausible only if Tanner unaccounted for, the pond is across the street, and they literally would have to go out of the parking lot, which was heavily occupied at the time. Project next to his is Pond Turtle, however.
The Fuhrer residence, on the market since April 2010, borders the Horman property, and extensive search efforts covered this property. Their is a white truck and camper located at the residence in the photos of the listing.
Brian Pumala, Tanner’s father is a plumber and recent electritian apprentice through JATC. He resides with one Ann Pumala on NW Mill in a houseboat on the channel. Quarry Rd, is directly behind his residence as well as the Quarry that was searched initially.
Finding of Fact:
From Blink notes: Pumala address is on Sauvie. In particular it is the start of the original start area for which MCSO requests video footage, and it has direct access to the channel, which has been a heavy search point.
Additionally folks– we have the investigative equivalent of “the closest distance between 2 points” here. Gram or “mom” Pumala is neighbor to Ky.
Non-custodial Dad, a former neighbor and presumed aquaintance, lives withing the perimeter of the focus of most of the search efforts, AND the alleged cell pings.
Priority Lead #2
Kaine Horman Email:
From: Horman, Kaine A
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 8:39 AM
Subject: FW: Kaine Horman’s son is missing
All,
If you have seen local Oregon news or been browsing the internet or FaceBook there is a good chance you have seen an article similar to the one that Becky forwarded (below). While this note is difficult for me to write in this state of mind I felt it necessary for Kyron’s sake.
Optional actions for you:
The Intel network is large and wide-reaching. Many have asked me what they can do to help us and my answer is the following:
1. Forward Kyron’s information to as many people as you feel comfortable with; the more people that see this will increase our chances of finding him
2. Do not speak to any media if contacted; I am trying to contact Intel legal to give them the heads up and help with this situation
Physical description at the time of his disappearance (picture is show in Becky’s note and here):
He is 3 foot 8 and 50 pounds, with blue eyes and brown hair. He was wearing black cargo pants, white socks, worn black Sketcher tennis shoes with orange trim and dark-colored t-shirt with the “CSI” show logo
Police Hot Line Number:
(503) 261-2847
Some rough background:
The article that Becky forwarded is pretty accurate with details. He was dropped off at school about 8:45 and went missing sometime between then and 9 or 9:30am. We did not know he was not at school until we went to get him off of the bus at 3:30 and he was nowhere to be found. The bus driver immediately called the school which responded that his teacher had not seen him all day in class, at which point we notified police in partnership with the school. It is still unknown whether he left school grounds on his own or was abducted. Be assured that there are currently an amazing number of agencies and amount of person-power being applied to the search and investigation.
Thank you all for the thoughts and prayers for Kyron’s safe return. I will update the group once status changes which will hopefully be soon. At the time of this note Kyron has now been missing for ~48 hours; time is of the essence.
Kaine Horman
Enterprise Business Architect
Intel Corporation
JM session notes: Bolded by Me. Dad states he went to the bus stop with Terri. Indicates both vehicles were at the residence, and in working order. What prompted his schedule to be home at that hour, would it be normal? Why is this the only account that features the Dad at the bus stop.
“in partnership” is odd wording. What does that mean exactly?
Priority Lead #3
Terri Horman call to school: When do the exhibits need to be picked up?
Blink notes: exculpatory. If your counting on a timeline that gives you until approximately 3:30PM, why would you risk the potential to raise the flag of Kyron’s absence. He was in fact, marked absent, although his things remained on his desk. SM calls and askes when the exhibits needed to be removed. In my mind, it is to see if she needed to also pick Kyron up that day, as he could not manage it himself on the bus.
Priority Lead #4
The questionaire released by MCSO and the FBI 
blinkoncrime.com editor JM, an experienced investigator and polygrapher, believes strongly there would have had to have been a deceptive response to necessitate a second poly. Blink notes: I believe strongly this is designed to progress leads in this case. My opinion as to “why” may be very unique. It is almost as if they want someone to believe she is a suspect, stopping short of naming her. Could they be hoping for someone to make contact with her. Admittedly, agreed on the deceptive response, but could she have exposed a bad guy to Kyron through her behavior or actions, but had nothing to do with his disappearance? Those images are FBI generated from an analysis they preformed on her behavior, no doubt in my mind.
blinknotes: I believe it possible the questionaire was requested for multiple reasons. Again, I cannot wrap around her. Put plainly folks-her profile does not match up to execution or strategy as we know it. I also believe this is designed to produce 300 exemplars. With the DA present while parents were to drop off their completed questionaires, I again think aloud– is there a convened GJ at the moment, in this case?
Also, what about this– it lets them capture the make, model, and plates of cars coming to the school with completed forms. Does our guy show up at 9am or 6PM on Father’s Day with kid in car, borrowed from someone, or does he send it with another parent?
Actual excerpt in work session:
*warning graphic* professionals need to de-sensatize in order to analyze.
Research/Investigstive Professional: Something is bad wrong is going on inside the Horman home without a doubt. I tend to look at folks who will not talk. Terri is simply acting odd. She has odd expressions. I mean effin odd; a self-centered nutcase. Unequivocally, yes, but she has an extensive track record of caring for kids. I would def buy her having an affair. If this is her, what kind of lame ass plot is this, in the first place. You drug the kid, you take him out on your own damn property, or closest body of water, and call the cops the next morning with your back door open and his foot trail still fresh. Say he has a history of sleepwalking. In that neighborhood, the critters would have him by then ( sorry, I know). This woman spend significant time with the school and his class. She had the baby in there, multiple times, knows all the kids by name. This is where she is going to take every risk and chance to off the child she has cared for since birth with no conceivable motive– no history of mental illness, and a facebook of loving family photos, several of which taken by her of a beaming Kyron? Not feeling it.
That said, it is connected to her in some way. Scorned lover? Unrequited affection of someone at the school? Kyron was chosen because of her?
Priority Lead #5
Terri Horman follows cases like these:
Priority Lead #6
The baby Kiara, was not with Terri and Kyron that morning.
JM notes:
I don’t know where dad was.
I do not know what he drove.
I don’t know when he left.
I do not know when he came home.
I do not know for sure he was even at work but it would be easy enough to document with ID swipes, etc.
I do not know where the baby was.
I do not know who was watching the baby.
I do not know why dad decided to come home early to meet the bus (and even that is in question.)
Where was she and is this normal routine?
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I tend to believe the theory that Kyron was found early on in the investigation because, according to this June 23rd article from OregonLive.com, the police are “focused on leads close to home.”
“If we get a call with details that haven’t gone out, we know that person is a credible witness.”
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/investigators_in_kyron_horman.html
This sounds to me like they may have found Kyron and want to hear from anyone who can provide more details about what they already know.
On a flakier note, Saturday morning I tried using a technique for getting psychic impressions that I learned many years ago, and had applied with some success, but haven’t tried until this weekend, because I simply get this case out of my head. At first I had difficulty concentrating because I kept hearing crows squawking. I told myself that there would always likely be some kind of distraction and that I simply needed to concentrate harder. Just when I thought the noise was letting up, and I was starting to feel like I was lying face up under some shallow, clean, slow moving water, with the light above changing from lighter, to darker, to lighter, etc., I suddenly heard the explosive sound of a rather vicious crow fight. It was almost frightening. It occurred to me that this might be important information — perhaps “crow” could be a clue to Kyron’s whereabouts. So, I got up, made coffee,and started “googling” Crow + Oregon. I did find a Crow, OR, but it is in Lane County. All of a sudden I remembered how scary the crow fight had sounded, and I thought of a scarecrow. Another Google search turned up a place called Scarecrow Hill Farms, located where NW Skyline Boulevard meets NW Rock Creek Road. I actually took a drive around that area yesterday afternoon, managing to get terribly lost — even with Google directions — because the area is so rural and both roads wind around a lot, as you can see:
At any rate, although I have no confidence in the reliability of my psychic abilities, I wonder if this area has been thoroughly searched, particularly along the very woodsy, elevated stretch of Rock Creek Road.
Mme. “C”
Dear Madame Clouseau: The light changing from lighter, to darker, to lighter etc…. could it be a lighthouse? Warrior Rock has a lighthouse called Rudy Alice Lighthouse. It’s accessible by foot (7 mile round trip) or by boat. The crows could be the sound of boats passing by or of seagulls and other birds.
http://porchweb.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=384&rowstart=0
Snapoutofit,
Can’t say about the lighthouse. Shallow, clean water with access to daylight. Definitely crows.
Mme “C”
Blink-
Last you week you wrote that you were working on new updates. Did the divorce/restraining order filings change the direction of your theory?
I was looking forward to your new insights. TIA
No.
B
Kyron’s step-mom at the center of plan by corrections staff
A source at the Multnomah County Corrections Division indicated that a plan had been in the process for about two weeks regarding Kyron’s step-mom if she’s arrested. WW learned from the source that corrections staff have been planning to immediately notify Corrections Health Director Gayle Burrow along with a mental health staff if an arrest is made on Terri.
The source confirms to WW the reason behind getting the mental health staff involved is so an evaluation can be performed on Kyron’s step-mother and put her on suicide watch when if need be if she’s in custody.
Terri Moulton Horman is not a suspect, this is just preparation
It’s important to reiterate Kyron Horman’s step-mother is not an official suspect and has not been arrested. However, Terri has been under intense scrutiny by authorities since the disappearance of her stepson. She has completed two polygraphs and has been questioned for many hours in the investigation.
Kyron Horman’s family prepares for the worst with Terri Moulton Horman
It’s not known what caused Kaine Horman to file divorce papers accompanied with a restraining order against his wife. It’s unsettling to see a family, which has been portrayed in the media as close-knit, fall victim to a fractured state throughout the investigation.
Kyron’s father and step-mom share an 18-month-old daughter, Kiara, and as of Monday, she and Kaine moved out, leaving Terri alone.
This case has a mystery that deepens with each day. Will Kyron’s step-mother be arrested or is the Horman family so distraught, their bond is being challenged?
I wonder what step mom will be charged with if they arrest her. Any thoughts Blink?
My guess would be endangering a child for one…
hindering an investigation….
KPTV live news: A local searcher, Gary Hartfield,is on Sauvie Island searching north end of the island. A professional search “with dogs” will also be searching tomorrow. There will be a national known psychic coming to Portland, OR tomorrow.
6.Lori D says:
June 29, 2010 at 6:38 pm
I’ll take a guess. If the testers the second time around discovered important information that SM previously did not disclose that would of been pertinent to the investigation, *specifically and only surrounding the disappearance of Kyron*, I would have to guess she could now be charged with obstructing the investigation if and a big IF she was hampering their investigation. If I had to take a an educated guess surrounding what is unfolding in the personal,(public realm as well) between Kaine and Terri and he filing for divorce and a restraining order, I’d say that whatever his reasons for filing the divorce are, are actually not directly related to the disappearance of his son. I’ve been wrong before and I could very well be wrong about my hunch on this. I hate to bring up Russia, and I’m not insinuating any conspiracy theories or anything like that, but perhaps whoever else involved in this incident is just plain dangerous *as well as elusive..I only bring that up because early on I remember reading about the “Russian” population of citizens who make up the immediate area and surrounding communities which lead me to thinking about drugs and the cartels who traffic there.
RE: Madame Clouseau (posts 3 & 4) … “shallow, clean, slow moving water, with the light above changing from lighter, to darker, to lighter, etc., I suddenly heard the explosive sound of a rather vicious crow fight”
I believe your psychic impression is the perspective from UNDER a dock/houseboat moored on Sauvie Island (Priority Lead #1).
The island is a haven for bird life, including crows.
http://www.opb.org/programs/ofg/segments/view/1255
http://blog.oregonlive.com/homesandgardens/2010/02/clever_crows_are_real_communic.html
*correction to previous post.. I meant posts 1 & 3, posted by Madame Clouseau
kuaitzudog wrote: “The source confirms to WW the reason behind getting the mental health staff involved is so an evaluation can be performed on Kyron’s step-mother and put her on suicide watch when if need be if she’s in custody.”
Thank you for that insight, kuaitzudog. If TH is deemed suicidal, which is a real possibility considering the scrutiny into her personal life and husband’s departure, that would explain the firearms restriction. Seems whenever there is an update of that nature, my initial response it to assume the worst. The waiting and wondering is so excrutiating, I just can’t begin to imagine what Kaine and Desiree are going through.
Lori, my thoughts on what TH would be charged with: obstruction of justice. I believe she has been withholding crucial information from LE because it would incriminate her – although her presumed crime, IMO, is not directly related to the disappearance of Ky.
Just a thought: Much sympathy has been expressed for Kaine, Desiree and Tony, but Kyron’s stepbrother James seems far-removed from the picture at present. It is my understanding that James and Kyron share a close relationship. James is old enough to realize what is happening, so this situation must be terribly distressing for him – not only because of Kyron, but also because of his mother. Just want to remember him in my prayers and hope others will, too.
My hopes and prayers are with little Kyron. I pray for his safety. He’s just a little boy.
Local news in Portland tonight stated that there was a 911 call to the Horman residence on the eve (June 26th)of Kaine Horman and the 18 month old child moving out of the home. The details of restraining order are sealed and news reporters are all interviewing legal attorneys who are stating that they have never seen a case where that has happened before. It was stated that the reason sealed is to not jeopardize the search for Kyron and the case. I understand. I am just feeling that Kyron’s body had already been found between June 13 – 19th. I am so sorry about all of this…so very very sad for everyone.
The divorce papers filed by Kyron’s father against the boy’s stepmother, the last person known to see the second-grader alive, cite “irreconcilable differences.” But an accompanying restraining order indicates that husband Kaine Horman considers his wife a possible threat to their 18-month old daughter.
The restraining order prohibits Terri Horman from having contact with her other children, an older son and an 18-month-old daughter. Kaine Horman is asking Oregon courts for sole custody of the little girl.
The restraining order has been sealed by a judge who said he was concerned that releasing the entire document could jeopardize the investigation into the disappearance of Kyron.
The order also prohibits Terri Horman from possessing any guns, according to The Associated Press.
Under Oregon law, the type of emergency restraining order granted to Kaine Horman would require some specific example of why there was an immediate threat of danger. So far, there’s no word on what Kaine Horman could have told the judge.
I care wrote: “If I am right and if by some slight chance the person who has him is watching these forums I beg of you…please turn Kyron loose and in a safe place. He is just a little boy who had been caught up in this awful mess. Keep him safe, turn him loose and do what you have to do. Turn yourself in or run like hell. Please don’t hurt this little boy.”
That is what I’m hoping will happen. In the perp’s mind, this has been about TH. It’s time the perp realizes that this is NOT ABOUT TH, this is about KYRON, an innocent little boy!
I found another person’s comment interesting about this being a distraction. Could this be an elaborate scheme on behalf of law enforcement to make the real perpetrator believe that TH is the suspect? It almost seems that things are “falling into place” too obviously and that if TH was genuinely a suspect, they would have enough evidence to arrest her already. It she isn’t a part of a scheme to draw out the real kidnapper, she must be directly involved.
Also Saturday, a 9-1-1 call came in from the Horman’s home at 5:46 p.m., regarding “threats” at the property. The sheriff’s office declined to allow its release, citing the ongoing investigation.
“Mr. Horman has a continuing desire to bring Kyron home safely, and to provide for the best interests of his daughter Kiara,” said Kyron’s lawyer, Laura E. Rackner, in a statement Tuesday. “Mr. Horman remains supportive of all of the law enforcement agencies working to locate Kyron and will continue to act in his children’s best interests.”
In his petition for divorce, also filed Monday, Kaine cites “irreconcilable differences” between he and his wife, seeks sole custody of their daughter and reasonable child support.
I have this feeling that Kyron’s body was found already and that it’s on a slab in the morgue. I think his body was found on Sauvie Island around June 12-15th. I think Harry Oake’s search today will not reveal anything because the body is in the morgue. The morgue may be a brick building near a tall waterfall or water fountain/feature.
And I think Harry O is looking to make a quick buck and get his name in the papers.. oh wait, he’s already accomplished both.
anyhoo.. I’m in a very pissy mood today. Everyday I sign on here hoping to discover that Kyron was found and it saddens me to learn that he hasn’t.
So, my question is…
If stepmom gets arrested for obstruction of justice
Would she actually get a jail term? and if so, how long?
DUI probation for Terri Horman
A Marion County, Ore. court spokeswoman explained that Terri Horman was sentenced to probation for 12 months along with a 90-day driver’s license suspension. As part of her probation, she had to attend mandatory alcohol counseling programs and a victim impact statement session.
Kyron Horman’s step-mom wracked up even more infractions prior to the DUI conviction
In the records search, it was learned Kyron Horman’s step-mom wracked up more in traffic violations before her DUI conviction. ABC reports Terri Horman had about nine traffic infractions, which included mostly speeding with one being she drove with an expired license – happening between the years of 1988 and 2004.
FWIW, I don’t believe Kyron’s remains have been located by LE. Memorializing someone’s life and the family and friends having what closure they could would come before justice and playing a waiting game…We’d know if he had been located by LE.
to: CRIMEWRITER, you are mentioning
“remember reading about the “Russian” population of citizens who make up the immediate area and surrounding communities which lead me to thinking about drugs and the cartels who traffic there.” = this is the most absurd theory heard lately!!!
i guess anything goes… but really do think this true?
see no logic here, unless i missed some other news
From what I have read on different sites, just wondering????
1.) Who was keeping Kiara, day of Kyron’s Science Fair and
Talent Show?
2.) Why didn’t Terri Horman go to talent show? Did she know Kyron
would not be there?
3.) Where was James, Terri’s son, day of Kyron’s Science Fair?
4.) Read somewhere, that Terri Horman posted pic of James???
in front of Kyron’s Science Project? Why hasn’t anyone
asked where he was that day?
5.) Why did James suddenly go to elsewhere to live?
Could he have done something to Kyron? Just wondering??
6.) How could a child be missing all day, from school?
Most schools will call or notice that a child is absent?
7.) Perhaps Terri’s posts on Facebook and Pictures posted, day of
Kyron’s Science Fair…could have been a signal to someone?
People can post from a black berry or cell phone?
8.) I read that Kyron’s glasses were found? by searchers?
Is that true? or is it just a rumor?
9) Is step mom involved in an affair, read this on a blog?
10.) Could divorce papers etc. be staged just to catch somone
else who may be involved w/ step mom? or someone in the family?
11.) Does Terri Horman have a quick temper? Does she drink?
12.) What does Kyron’s friend mean, from video on internet,
when he says “go down to see the cool, electric one?”
Down the hall, or down to another floor?
13.) How could a whole school not see Kyron leaving? unless he was with a family member or someone who knew him?
Our prayers are with Kyron and his family, and everyone who knows this
little boy. Thank you for your posts…
Archertrue
East Coast
POINT #2, re: talent show at Kyron’s school.
I have read on the internet, that Kyron was scheduled to have been in the school’s talent show, and his mother had a baby sitter, but she did not go to the talent show?
Can anyone comment on this? Thanks for your posts. We pray for Kyron’s safe return.
Archertrue
East Coast ( new to this site)
amychika says:
June 30, 2010 at 6:28 pm
RE: LOL Amy, After posting I was waiting for someone to comment, well not really waiting, just expecting. No theory at all on that! I should have spaced the paragraph. The hunch I was referring to was that I don’t believe Kaine’s divorce filing was due to him thinking or believing that Terri was solely responsible for Kyron’s disappearance.
I had just finished watching the National news (Russian Spies Arrests story) when I commented. I wasn’t suggesting Russian citizens were involved, only that after watching the news, I started thinking about Russians, drug trafficking and cartels, which brought me back to thinking about LE previously spending 24 hours a day at the Horman household for their protection, (or waiting for a possible ransom phone call of some kind) and just thinking that with there being no arrest or news of finding or thinking where Kyron might be, if still alive, whoever is responsible or is a co conspirator/future co defendant, is probably dangerous and elusive. That’s all. Sorry for the confusion and not being clearer. I’m not one of the wacky ones, I promise. No disrespect or stereotyping of any Russian-American citizens intended. LOL
Since I have been guilty of this in the past – just so you know if you’re following this case via RSS feed, Blink has put up a new post (after this one) where most people are now commenting on the case. You were probably wondering – “where did everyone go?” It’s happened to me before
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/29/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-sources-terri-horman-arrest-is-imminent/comment-page-5/#comment-1599551
Something has been bothering me about the “self-professed best friend” Tanner Pumala, because there were very recent pictures of another friend of Kyron’s in Terri’s fb photos. They took the other boy on a family outing bowling, there was a picture in front of his own project. It seems like Terri and Kaine were fostering this friendship. Was it a more appropriate friendship for Kyron, or Terri maybe? Distancing from TP’s family?
And then poor little Tanner – I’m his best friend. Was he speaking out just show his importance in Kyron’s life? The two things I noticed about him was that he grabbed at his hair (for comfort?) and he spoke quickly in a high voice as if he was repeating it for the umpteenth time and trying to get it over. I’m sure this has been very difficult and confusing for all the children connected to Kyron.
I was wondering where the heck everyone went…LOL…
thanks Lily.
One has got to wonder if SM told of a plot against her early on . Normally LE does not stay with the family 24/7 and FBI does not rush in. So there has to be quite a story from SM to make these agencies act they way they did.Has this plot story fallen apart after the 2nd poly?
“No mention of his Mother, Lisa Fuhrer Pumala”
found Lisa’s cached myspace account… WOW, she must have gone through some pretty bad times. My take is that she suffered some serious abuse. Back in 9/2007 she was hospitalized–it seems her son Wyatt was also affected. There are THREE years worth of comments from her sister and mother and other friends and relatives… checking in on her… missing her, offering support, validating her mothering skills, and over the top self-esteem messages. Encouraging her that she will get through this. Her mother made multiple references to the sperm donor, the azzwhole, and even the effer. And that he will get his.. family takes care of their own.
Oneshot and others….what’s is this about Kyron’s glasses being sent as a message? I must have missed this story. I knew that the authorities released photos of Kyron’s glasses but thought they were a copy … not the actual ones… Can someone please help (with a link if you have it)
@ 32, that is interesting about Lisa, and now Ann is in Arizona.
Sounds like BP’s Fuhrer in-laws did not like BP, and they are the next door neighbors to Horman residence.
All sorts of possibilities with a situation like that, abused first wife, angry in-laws, now second wife leaves, possible involvement with TH?
Here’s what’s bothering me at the moment: Tanner says he didn’t realize that his BFF was missing until Friday evening because his DAD saw it on the news?
I thought an automated phone call had gone out to all Skyline parents that afternoon regarding the situation. Even though BP was probably not on the school’s call list (as an NCP, although surely he was listed as at least an emergency contact?), wouldn’t Grandma or Mom or whomever receives school-related calls have related that info to Tanner and BP before the evening news, esp considering how “close” Tanner and Kyron were?
Something about the whole Pumala element strikes me as very hinky.
And in any event, at this point, all parties involved need to realize that no one cares what shady activities these people were involved in; there’s very little that most of us haven’t heard before. There’s a little boy missing and it’s time for him to be found. Come clean, people.
I too, click on this site everyday for an answer to the pray of survival for this little boy.
I think the posts here are great and provide solid answers and questions. Thank you all.
This is what I don’t get. Where is the older son in all of this?
Have police found WHO TH is obviously having an affair with?
Why isn’t anyone grilling Kaine Hormon? It takes 2. He understands the breakdown of his marriage. Even at the first press conference TH looked guilty of involvement to some degree. Her eyes shifted and she looked quilty of something. Everybody has a paper trail of their life, so whoever has that boy will be found out. He ought to drop him off at a Walmart somewhere and haul butt, so when he is caught, he at least won’t go down on a murder conviction. Also, someone at that school knows the real deal with TH. Women watch each other and speculate. Also that family of BP, they need to be grilled to death. There’s no possible way the police are not on top of this and I agree that Kaine Hormon is doing what they say to do to be able to stay out of jail and to be able to keep his younger daughter. When this boy comes home I hope the bio mom gets Kyron and the baby and the DAD and stepmom loose their kids and go to jail. There is no way the DAD timeline adds up. This is one of those families that could only fool the world for so long and then, voila! the bottom fell out and their fairy tale is over.
The national news today says that this is a murder for hire plan.
That coincides with the blogs discussion of the dirt bag neighbors.
They need to come clean or TH needs to come clean.
someone needs to come clean first to save some part of their own neck and implicate the other person(s)
Time to give the mouse the cheese dude!
Get the child out of the mix in order to negoitate . Kyron, will just cost the perps mega time in the pokey.
Obviously, TH likes to manipulate anyone she can.
LET THE LITTLE BOY GO and give TH to the LE! Do it now, before you don’t have a prayer in H—.
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Does anyone know of a Psychic, on this case? I remember reading from one that lives out of State regarding getting and image of a red Barn/Building with white trim..Today on the Facebook Page “Missing Kyron Horman” They have put up a picture of Kyron inside a House? Looking out with Binoculars..If You look in the background You can see a red Building, White trim or roof? I would like to know if anyone gets anything around this Picture..I have mixed feelings where Psyhics are concerned..But I do believe God Gives powers and insight and Dreams for the better purpose..To Find a Child? I have no doubt he has giving the answer to someone or several in dreams or other suttle hints..Last night I Prayed and Prayed to give me a sign, And the only thing that came to me was a “yelling” of MAMMA!! And that was it..I do believe in preminitions etc..I really would like believers to look at that photo on the FB site to see if anyone feels that this is the area the lady was speaking of..Thankyou
The woman Kaine was having an affair with at Intel–her morals wouldn’t be very high. Maybe they broke up and she took the kid to get even? No focus has been put on her yet, but why not? Fatal attraction?
#46 “NG clearly states” … what is NG??
thanks
wrong thread… sorry
Okay, where did the comment thread go this time?
Not sure how to find old comments, I am very new at this – In late June I commented about a ‘vision’ I had of someone at the center of things that ‘looked like’ a dwarf. I was chilled to come across a photo on your site that fit. someone identified it as Brian Pumela , pretending to be a dwarf, but I cannot find any other photos of him. Would like a clearer shot of his face, to determine if it’s the face I saw. often visons contain a detail that seems strange at the time, but from experience I know that the detail often makes things un-mistakable. A face from a ‘dream’ can be hard to remember, but the fact that the person ‘appeared’ to be a dwarf, narrows the field. Thank you for any help. Totally new at all of this, but cannot shake this feeling/vision and would like to confirm it, if only for myself. thank you.
Take a look at the photo above of the individual playing the guitar. Is this the one?
Kaine seeks hearing to have Terri out of their house
A hearing for the matter was originally set for July 22, but sources tell KOIN the hearing may be moved up to as soon as Thursday afternoon.
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Terri-wants-money-to-move-out-Kyron-Horman/Dz4uMChK60KCWjy3W5FG4Q.cspx
I didn’t realize Terri was adopted. She may have been adopted by twice. I read on one local tv posting spot comment that she was adpoted.
Someone reported that that the first time they saw Terri she was 3 years old and wearing a white dress. The age they thought she was adopted. There is speculation she has a detachment disorder.
Adoptee
Maiden Name Terri L. Ecker (mother?)
Birth Date Mar 14, 1970
Birth Place California
Gender female
Height tall
Hair Color
Eye Color
Handicap none
Handicap none
Race None
Religion Christian
Occupation Student/Teacher
Education Currently attending Northwest Christian College in Eugene Oregon to achieve my BA
Married yes
Spouse’s Name Richard
Spouse Info He’s 34 with a brother Robert who is 5 years older
Military no
Other Info I am 5’6, 127lbs., red hair, blue eyes, athletically fit
July 22, 2010 9:52 PM
This is in the news tonight on KGW news site.
Close friend of Terri’s spotted near Kyron’s home when he vanished
by Frank Mungeam
Posted on July 22, 2010 at 9:19 PM
Updated today at 9:31 PM
Related:
Kyron’s family calls on friend of Terri’s to tell what she knows
Homes of Terri Horman’s friends searched, woman ID’d as not cooperating
PORTLAND, Ore. — DeDe Spicher, identified as a close friend of Terri Horman, was doing gardening work not far from the family’s home in Northwest Portland on the day Kyron Horman disappeared, KGW has learned from a reliable source. Spicher reportedly left where she was working at 11:15 a.m. on June 4 and returned around 1 p.m.
The person who owns the house, who is cooperating with investigators, told them she called Spicher on her cell phone but she didn’t answer, the source told KGW. A person who was working with Spicher, who is also cooperating with investigators, told them of trying to unsuccessfully find Spicher. Both people have told investigators they have no idea where Spicher was during that period.
Family pleads with Spicher to cooperate
Thursday evening, the parents of Kyron Horman issued a public plea to DeDe Spicher, naming her in a written statement that says police have informed them Spicher has been in “close communication” with Terr Moulton-Horman since Kyron went missing, and that Spicher has been “providing Terri with support and advice that is not in the best interests of our son.”
The statement from the family went on to say that police tell the family Spicher “is refusing to cooperate with law enforcement, she is also going as far as to suggest to others that may have information regarding Kyron’s disappearance, not to cooperate as well.”
The family statement implored Spicher to tell what she knows about Kyron’s disappearance, and threatens the possibility of civil action if she does not. Read: Family statement
Earlier Thursday, KGW learned from sources that police have searched the homes of three different friends of Terri Moulton Horman’s in the past week. More: 3 homes searched
I always found the sentence in the family’s 1st statement to the press odd… “Please search your properties, your cars, your outbuildings, your sheds.” It almost seemed like a message saying “I stashed him in a shed.
Now, because of a tip from Dede Spicher, the LE is searching Cornelius Pass Road. Maybe they should head back to Jim Kelley’s house(which is off Cornelius Pass Road)where the white truck showed up on June 4th (Around 3pm and again at 2am) and check his sheds, cars, and outbuildings.
so, i was reading some leads back in december and this old man said that a white truck was speeding behind him on this old dirt road in oregon. he said he would ook in the review mirror and see this little boy look up and a lady kept pushing his head back down. he said he pulled a little over and the truck passed him
he later saw the truck parked and met up with a maroon (i think, i forgot) colored suv type thing and that there was a man in a baseball cap, another red haired lady and TH, he said he slowed way down and watched from down the road as he approached,
he said they were all with the little boy and the man was holding a shovel.
later he said he was getting on the highway and the truck and the suv were getting on the on ramp, (again i forgot) but he said something like ‘the suv hit the truck because they werent paying attention and going to fast, so now there is a bump on the fender’ (or something like that)
so i personally think that the police and cadavar dogs should go search this place!!!
p.s. i made a kyron horman tshirt, and it says his name and that we should find him, ive made awareness all the way in texas!
-molly