Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Terri Horman Leaves The House
Portland, OR– Late today, prior to a previously scheduled hearing at 3PM PST, an agreement was reached between the attorneys for Kaine Horman and Terri Horman.
KOIN reports:The dispute between Terri Horman and Kaine Horman has been settled and she will move out of the couple’s Northwest Sheltered Nook Road home Saturday by 3 p.m.
Also on Koin6, via email from Kaine Horman-
When asked via email by KOIN if he believes Terri had something to do with Kyron’s disappearance, he wrote: “I believe at some point she will be arrested.”
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RE: S says:
July 26, 2010 at 2:51 am
Hi S. I really liked your post listed above. As per friends helping Terri; I know, it’s really difficult for most of us to understand why anyone would help supress information in a missing child case. But people have assisted friends in doing the most godawful things unimaginable.
Near my home in CT about a decade ago, a violent domestic abuser strangled his ex. He got a friend and that friend’s girlfriend to help him dispose of the body. It involved a garbage can, cement & a swamp. They all went to jail. To this day I cannot understand why ANYONE would help do anything like that, but it happens.
Fox news just had a segment on Kyron. Leading line said Arrest Imminent. I did not hear the whole thing, I was making pancakes. This may just be a late update, but they do not follow the story regularly.
Sorry for cross posting, but I need to get this out .. given that June 8 was the last day of school, the Dr. appointment can only refer to that sad Friday June 4th.
I watched the videos of LE bringing out cinder blocks from THs friends homes: why would they have cinder blocks inside their homes anyway?
Cranes for Kyron:
http://www.katu.com/news/local/99202599.html
neighbor says:
July 26, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Sorry for cross posting, but I need to get this out .. given that June 8 was the last day of school, the Dr. appointment can only refer to that sad Friday June 4th.
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Ha good point. Unless TH states that she needed the paperwork from teacher, FOR appt the following date.
Evidently, I need to post shorter responses…here is a statement which should help this part of the discussion:
Portland affiliate KATU reported that Terri Horman had told Kyron’s teachers and classmates that he would be out of the classroom that Friday at a doctor’s appointment, giving the school no reason to expect him back after the science fair that morning where Kyron showed off his project on frogs.
“Clearly even school children were aware that he was going to the doctor that day and they expected him to be at the doctor that day so now after the fact to say, ‘I didn’t know it was that day, it was another day’ it is weak,” former homicide detective C.W. Jensen said.
neighbor: thank you, that makes more sense
kuaitzudog: Now that is interesting, are you a local as I had not seen or heard that one….geesh
The last day of school for PPS was June 15, not June 8 or June 4.
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/news-c/calendar/E_T_Cal_09_10.pdf
A doctor’s appointment at the end of the year is not at all uncommon. Sometimes it takes the teacher that long to convince the parents the kid needs to go. Of course, that is considering it was for a behavior matter. If it was for allergies or something like that, it could have been whenever they could get in.
Many times it’s been stated that it was raining on June 4. Makes me curious about a couple of things:
Why was DeDe gardening? And why did Kaine, Terry and Kiara and walk to the bus stop?
Megan-
thanks for your comment, you may be right and no comment is worth deleting, we all have something to add here. (I think so anyway) I too feel that this INNOCENT little man is being used as a pawn also or for the use of Terris sick way of getting even with Kaine. It doesnt make sense though as a lot of people are saying what a great family this is or was…just unbelievable.
I just hope there is an arrest soon as that will tell us a little about who what when where and why? the five W’s
kuaitzudog says:
July 26, 2010 at 12:45 pm
I watched the videos of LE bringing out cinder blocks from THs friends homes: why would they have cinder blocks inside their homes anyway?
Cinder blocks can be used as a foundation for a home so they may have been taken from the basement, or under the home. Or they may have just been stored in the basement for future use to build something.
The implications of them taking the cinder blocks is what’s frightening. Maybe they’re looking for blood spots, or trying to determine if a cinder block they found matches the one found in the persons home.
what time “Oregon Time” will the GJ convene?
@mockingbird
The way that post reads, it wasnt written by a sister of Desiree. It was written by one of Terri’s friends. see how it says “Kittys portland aunt”? Any sister of DY would not consider TMHs child their niece or nephew, imo.
Good info though.
I wouldnt be suprised if it was written by “Aunt Dede”.
Don’t miss this one!!
Kaine Horman asks court to have estranged wife pay half of his attorney fees
Published: Monday, July 26, 2010, 10:26 AM Updated: Monday, July 26, 2010, 10:42 AM
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kaine_horman_asks_court_to_hav.html
He is going to have a tough row to hoe on that one.
I can only surmise this is simply an attempt to get her on the record in open court, or they suspect or have knowledge that she is being funded via the Casey Anthony plan.
Since I already believe the latter, and Kaine would most definitely know if funds were withdrawn from their assets, this is strategic, imo.
B
B
Kaine just petitioned the court to have Terri disclose how she paid the $350,000 necessary to retain Houze, per Oregonlive.com. He wants to know if it is marital funds and if so wants half of it in order to pay for his attorney.
CentralORMom says:
July 26, 2010 at 1:23 pm
“Clearly even school children were aware that he was going to the doctor that day and they expected him to be at the doctor that day so now after the fact to say, ‘I didn’t know it was that day, it was another day’ it is weak,” former homicide detective C.W. Jensen said.
Couldn’t the children have been aware of the doctor’s appointment from the teacher? Like, the kids ask “where’s Kyron?” and the teacher says “he’s at the doctor” Does anyone have a link that says a child actually heard Kyron say he had a doctor appointment? Kim Holm doesn’t even say that – she says Kurtis knew but it was in accordance with the teacher saying it. I’m just trying to stick to the facts here.
S,
There’s a reason I might take Kurtis’ word, rather than Tanner’s. As I recall, Kurtis’ mom said that he mentioned RIGHT AWAY that day, upon hearing Kyron not being in school, that he knew that. Kurtis’ mom says he knew the reason why — the Dr. appt.
So, imagine the conversation goes like this:
Mom: “I just got a call from the school. They’re looking for Kyron, he didn’t come home on the bus and he hasn’t been in school all day.”
Kurtis: “I know, he left with his stepmom, to go to the doctor.”
IF Kurtis knew the Dr. excuse, and it SEEMS he did, that SAME day (vs. hearing it in the media), then I think his words are very valid and important.
On top of the words from Kurtis though – we have verification, from his mother, in a tv interview, saying that Kurtis knew Kyron had left the school (for the appt.) and he told her as such when he found out Kyron was missing. So, to me — an perhaps I’m alone here — that holds a lot more weight; not just a child, but a parent’s verification of what their child told them in the moments of finding out Kyron disappeared.
OTOH, I have several issues with Tanner’s story. The first being that apparently LE discounted it and removed it from their timeline; saying Terri was the last to see Kyron.
Secondly, from what it seems, some are interpreting Tanner’s words to mean that he is saying Kyron was WITH his little group, touring the science fair, and that his absence was noticed upon returning to the classroom, rather than upon LEAVING the classroom. Based on the timeline of 8:45, there’s no way the police believe Kyron was in the touring group. Either he was or he wasn’t; so which is it?
Third, Tanner claims a substitute asked the teacher about Kyron, and the teacher said “oh he’s probably in the bathroom”. That seems impossible to me. If the teacher knew he had an appt. she would say so; and if she didn’t know, after a while she WOULD wonder where he is and have to go look. So, IMO, since she didn’t do that, she knew
Also, wouldn’t Tanner wonder why Kyron never came back to the classroom? Wouldn’t he ask the teacher again?
There’s another account that kinda gives me pause; the Tyler one. He says he saw Kyron in the gym (possibly when Terri went)and that he also saw Terri’s truck there after she supposedly left. Now, I’m not sure how he knows it was Terri’s truck, and not some other white truck. But that’s really the only reservation I have there.
neighbor says:
July 26, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Sorry for cross posting, but I need to get this out .. given that June 8 was the last day of school, the Dr. appointment can only refer to that sad Friday June 4th.
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I think the dr. appt was a lie; but I thought school didn’t get out until the 15th?
I think a lot of engery is being focused on the report of the speeding red mustang, white truck and cement truck on SI the day Kryon went missing.
What is the official source of this report? I googled it and could only come up with comments on blogs referring to the incident, but no links or verified reports.
I’m not trying to discount the credibility of the report or the source…just want to verify it is fact and not rumor.
Anyone have a link to a report on this?
Thanks for the help.
Praying Kyron is coming home soon.
According to Skyline Elementary’s website/calendar…the last official day of school was June 15th, 2010.
I think if school would have been let out for the summer sooner than the 11th…she may already be in custody. IMO
WOW..I wondered how expensive Houze was..wouzwerrrr!! But yet she asked KH for money for moving expenses?? sumthin’is fishy??
Eloise says:
July 26, 2010 at 1:08 pm
neighbor says:
July 26, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Sorry for cross posting, but I need to get this out .. given that June 8 was the last day of school, the Dr. appointment can only refer to that sad Friday June 4th.
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Ha good point. Unless TH states that she needed the paperwork from teacher, FOR appt the following date.
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Or the doctors appt was regarding something that the teacher brought to the parents attention and Terri was letting the teacher know that even though school would be out, Terri was following up with the teachers concern
Tanner Pumala’s Grandma is Wendy Fuhrer…who just happens to live right next door to Kaine Horman. Might this be the address where Dee Dee was working that morning? It has been reported she was working in the AREA of the Hormans that morning. It gets better…Brian Pumala, Tanner’s father lives on NW MILL Rd. on a houseboat just a stone’s throw from Sauvie Island.
I give up.
Can someone please provide Central a link to my article from a few weeks back?
B
I feel certain that if the “alleged” doctor’s appointment were related to any source of abuse, as implied by insintel on another blog and other’s here…that would have been revealed to us by now. Surely if there were concerns by his teacher of abuse, this would have been reported.
I think I’m with the majority in that the doctor’s appointment was a tool Terri used to confuse the teacher. I keep wondering if besides creating a trail to support her alibis, the reason she went to the stores right after leaving the school was to buy time. She may have wanted to first ensure the school wouldn’t be calling to report his absence or verify his whereabouts/doctor’s appointment, etc. She couldn’t know for sure the teacher would have taken the bait and she knew she would need time to complete her premeditated plan.
I don’t have a link and can only say I read this on a news site.
I read that Houze would likely be able to secure financing/loans to cover the fees for his clients in high profile cases such as this. He works out deals concerning “book” and “film” rights to the story. I feel certain an insider’s story (Terri’s Story) would certainly sell for well in excess of his retainer.
I’d love to hear from an attorney’s point of view on this. To me, the most “telling” evidence of Terri’s guilt is the total lack of comments/commmunication from her side. Is this standard pro quo? Seems to me if she were innocent or claiming innocence, Houze would have made a statement of some sort, or at least leaked her claims of innocence to the press through some means.
How many attorney’s would also keep things so tight lipped in a case as nationally published as this?
It may be the norm…but, it seems so “off” to me.
No. Houze has one objective, to zealously represent/defend his Client, who, has not been charged in this case.
Someone is going to have to tell me how one arrives at a $350K retainer for an innocent person.
B
Re: The landscaping and going to the bus in the rain….It rains all the time here so we wouldn’t get to do much if we tried to do things only on non-rainy days.
Sweet boy come home to us.
FLGirl says:
July 26, 2010 at 2:04 pm
There’s another account that kinda gives me pause; the Tyler one. He says he saw Kyron in the gym (possibly when Terri went)and that he also saw Terri’s truck there after she supposedly left.
Here’s the actual interview:
“I just saw him (Kyron) in the gym, and I saw the truck out in the parking lot,” he said Wednesday. Kessinger said Kyron was looking at other students’ science fair projects, seemed happy and was with friends. . . He said when he saw Kyron in the gym he didn’t see Terri Horman with him. He and his family have turned over pictures they took at the science fair to investigators, but they’ve been asked not to disclose the timeframe in which he saw Kyron.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/98434609.html
No timeframe disclosed, no “after she supposedly left.”
$350,000? If TH is such an innocent person, why would she have to spend $350,000, just on the retainer, to hire an attorney so that she wouldn’t have to talk about 6/4? That makes no sense.
MOO, this is premeditated and she did it. For those who think she “snapped” or that Dede pushed her into it, I’d offer up the doctor’s appt and the MFH as two arguments right away, and more than that if I had time this a.m. There are no excuses for this woman that I’ve read that even begin to hold water. Sorry. JMO.
Blink says: Can someone please provide Central a link to my article from a few weeks back?
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/23/new-clues-in-kyron-horman-search-fact-or-fiction-you-decide/#more-4019
Thank you.
I guess I should apolly for my shortness, but man..
B
4.kuaitzudog says:
July 26, 2010 at 12:45 pm
I watched the videos of LE bringing out cinder blocks from THs friends homes: why would they have cinder blocks inside their homes anyway?
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I don’t know why they had cinder blocks in their homes but I don’t find it all that strange. I have a couple in my garage. But the fact that the police are interested in cinder blocks makes me wonder if they have other cinder blocks to compare. And if so, where did they get them and what were they used for? *shudder*
Just saw Dee Dee on KOIN
she went to GJ
Thank you.
I guess I should apolly for my shortness, but man..
B
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CBS News’ 48 Hours Mystery site has just posted this article:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20011662-504083.html
They have posted 130 pictures of this darling angel…lots of new pics that show how sweet and happy he was. What a smile!!
The most pertinent paragraph to me was:
New questions are still emerging about Horman’s actions the day her stepson disappeared. Several hours remain unexplained. Horman claimed she left Kyron at school at 8:45 a.m. and at 11:39 a.m. she went to the gym. In that three-hour gap, she said she went shopping and drove her 19-month-old daughter around to soothe an earache. But that has not been corroborated by anyone.
Sooo…according to this reporter…even the shopping trips have not been verified in the timeline?
Praying for Kyron daily.
DeDe Spicher testified before grand jury today. Wonder what was said…
Latest:
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/breakingnews/story/Terris-friend-DeDe-Spicher-subpoenaed-by-grand/uUe0JJ6oVky8uRAja_o1cA.cspx
Interesting that this appears to be Insintel’s last post on oregonlive:
Deedle – Keep your mouth shuuuuuuuuuut! Hold out just a little while longer.
Posted on Investigators put pressure on Terri Moulton Horman’s friends, including DeDe Spicher on July 22, 2010, 9:11PM
Terri’s friend DeDe Spicher subpoenaed by grand jury according to the news a few minutes ago. No details yet except that she was there today with her attorney.
The source of the $350,000 retainer fee absolutely must be uncovered, and soon. If Terri lies in her response to this question, she can be charged with perjury–not a little thing. This is an excellent way to put her feet to the fire, so to speak. Where in the world could she have gotten that amount of money? The prospects are frightening. Where is dear little Kyron?
Wow, the posts from DeDe’s cousin were legit? DeDe Spicher testifies before grand jury: http://www.kgw.com/news/local/DeDe-Spicher-testifies-before-grand-jury-99252004.html#kyron
“Grand jury proceedings are not open to the public or the media, so it was unknown exactly what Spicher said. However, her attorney did confirm that Spicher was subpoenaed to testify.”
I read on another site that the cinder block was removed from “Kerry’s” house.
Any leaks from the grand jury testimony?
Poor sweet Kyron. Where are you, baby boy?
More details..
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/DeDe-Spicher-testifies-before-grand-jury-99252004.html
Foxnews.com has a story about this on their website today.
Jackie Bauer aka “Cousin.” I’m with you alllll the way. As referred to on “that other site,” there are so many things hinky about TH, it’s hard to keep up. Speaking of hinky, while everyone banters about the doctor’s appointment dates versus when school is out, which is a non issue….cuz some bonehead reported bad info about when school was out…..I think the hinky meter is up for why you wouldn’t schedule your kid’s appointment after school was OUT. Certain circumstances could have precluded that, for sure, but it’s just another hinky (or Blinky, as it were) thing to add to the list.
Now I just watched DeDe on her way into talk to the GJ and she bugs the shit out of me too. There’s something about these two that are just toxic. I can’t get over the contradiction of the way they look and their love for the gym….or maybe it’s Jim.
Friend Of Kyron’s Stepmom Subpoenaed By Grand Jury
PORTLAND, Ore. — A friend of Terri Horman was subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury, according to her lawyer.
DeDe Spicher was spotted leaving the Multnomah County Courthouse on Monday morning. She did not comment on her appearance in court or the investigation into Kyron Horman’s disappearance.
http://www.kptv.com/news/24397450/detail.html
Dede testifies before grand jury
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/DeDe-Spicher-testifies-before-grand-jury-99252004.html
Blink…sorry, I didn’t see this before I posted. I live in Oregon and get most of my news locally…I also try and look at online info that is local. I ran across your site just a few days ago and saw posts on your site which still refer to questions about Tanner and his accounts of that day. I thought I was helping…I will try to look further next time.
Susan in Oregon
Thanks Susan, apolly for being terse.
B
So the supposed cousin was right! Dede went before a Grand Jury today. Please pray that she told the truth!
Regarding DeDe’s testimony before a GJ…could she take the 5th Amendment on all questions?
Well, I guess the person on another site claiming to be DeDe’s cousin was telling the truth. He/she said DeDe would be facing a Grand Jury today, and she did.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kaine_horman_asks_court_to_hav.html