Haleigh Cummings Case: Misty Croslin Confession.. “He took her away in a Black Bag”
As 18 year old Misty Croslin pleaded no contest to another drug trafficking charge today, Defense Attorney Robert Fields told the court his client, Misty Croslin, former wife of Haleigh Cummings Father Ron, also serving time on drug charges, that she knew what happened to 5 year old Haleigh the night of February 10, 2009.
“According to Misty, Joe took Haleigh while Misty was laying in bed and covered herself up with a blanket,” Fields told Channel 4 Tuesday morning outside the courtroom. “They were there for like seven minutes, appeared to be on drugs and Misty says she saw Joe put Haleigh in a black bag and she heard Haleigh scream.”
Joe Overstreet, who is Misty Croslin’s cousin from Tennesee allegedly came to the Mobile home with Misty’s brother Hank Croslin following a drug arrest in January, looking for an assault rifle. When the assault rifle was not found, Overstreet allegedly covered Haleigh with a blanket and then removed her from the home in a black bag.
Misty Croslin claims to have heard Haleigh scream, and did nothing to stop the abduction.
Joe Overstreet was recently arrested on drug charges in Tennesee, although authorities do not believe that crime is related to Haleigh’s disappearance.
Today is Haleigh Cummings 7th birthday.
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I’m sure this has been said before so I apologize for a repeated post but I think there is some truth to each and everyone’s story. I think that their brain cells are so fried that they are only able to obtain a bit of information at a time that they can barely remember and I think that’s why the stories change yet still have similarities such as the “Nay-Nay” letter last year that mentioned a “Joe” (may not be Joe Overstreet) and White Boy Greg and Haleigh OD’ing and being put in a black bag and tossed into pond (still a body of water) after a party that Misty attended. I think the puzzle pieces are slowly coming together. I agree with B that she was not “screaming” when she left the trailor, if she was ever in the trailor to begin with. I think she was taken to the party bcuz Misty wanted to party and had no choice, I think she was given the “Zanny the Nanny” pill or something stronger to put her out for a while and it ended up killing her and they were too strung out to panic but they did what they’re brains could absorb at the time and put her in a black bag and tossed her into the river. I think maybe at some point Joe did come to the house looking for a gun or drugs and since he could tell that Misty wasn’t home, then maybe he would spoil her alibi so she’s pointing the finger at him, OR maybe he disposed of her… either way, I really think bits and pieces of the truth are slowly coming out, all of this is JMO of course.
It’s all sad, no matter how you look at it. I do not believe that sweet baby ever really stood a chance. Her bio-mom and bio-dad were not the best parents yet she had to be with one and Ron was the best suited…so sad…. God bless you sweet Haleigh.
believeitornot-
Are you talking to me and accusing me of defending Ron?
I was posting a link from what the sheriff said about Ron and Crystal.
I saw people wondering how he is not arrested for the murder of his daughter, wondering how he left work and was at work at the same time etc. I was just posting a link that I found while reading is all.
I can ask why you defend any of them, including Crystal?
Also what information and links do you have that Grandmothers are responsible for the demise of their grandaughter? now that is going a little overboard don’t you think?
The biggest thing to worry about for these people is they didn’t have any guidance from loving parents and they are being judged because they are uneducated, they don’t go to school and where they live. They do drugs and we have not seen the evidence that the police do.
We know nothing except what the police tell us.
I am a grandmother, a stepmom, did drugs when I was younger, raised my kids alone, blah blah blah I would hope to God that if my grandaughter came up missing and I didnt ACT the right way, I wouldn’t be accused for the disappearance of her, Do any of us REALLY know how we would act?
I pray that this NEVER happens to me or people that I love as it is bad enough watching someone else go thru it.
I understand this case is a tough one as we don’t know anything but what do we REALLY know about who did this to Haleigh? we don’t. maybe we never will. no need to accuse me of something that isnt true, right?
Sorry, I apparently have a lot going on today. Here is a recent story posted by Tommy’s atty. A little more insight I suppose or pieces of the puzzle… The heading of the article says:
Attorney: Haleigh Cummings was Probably Strangled
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=163701
We may butt heads (often) but OMG Blink, WOW! that is a brilliant idea. Just brilliant! (being sincere here too)
“I think if we could put a multi-gender use birth control additive in illegal drugs it would go a long way.”
B
NancyS
I have been following the case since “day 1″ as they say. Anything I have posted is my own opinion, but what I try to do is follow LE statements. It ain’t easy. They say very little. Nor do they have to.
But what thay have said is telling.
They said “We have Ron’s schedule. He was at work” Then LE added something important to that statement: “But we do not know WHEN what happened to Haleigh happened.”
Does this sound like LE thinks Ron could be entirely innocent? No one has been allowed to discuss the particulars of Ron’s alibi. Not the police and not his workplace, for some reason.
The story and quote from Lt. Greenwood in the Jacksonville paper from a couple of days ago on Haleigh’s birthday is an old one from last year. LE made no statement on this case or on Mistys old story of Jo taking Haleigh.
A websleuther called the Jacksonville paper to confirm that the statement was not current, that it was an older statement of last year. The paper acknowledged that they were quoting an much earlier statement since they could get no current statement from LE.
LE did make an announcement on Haleigh’s birthday that they were not going to comment on this case.
no accusations from me NANCY, I just figured out who you REALLY ARE!
So sad for Haleigh, we probably never will find out what actually happened to her, only the people that know will probably take it to their graves.
wordgirl
thanks so much for the welcome, I will continue to read here, and not be singled out by a “certain person” for making comments that are of my own opinion. Again, thank you for the welcome.
Mimi777–old fashioned thinking,but i agree— responsible family planning, what a concept, and wanting to have a complete family, mother, dad and children as God intended–and married. Also I think it is evident that we are coming to the end times as morals are decaying right and left and everything is so acceptable it seems. We only have to watch the “normal” tv programs now to see how we are supposed to live. Just get together, have babies, decide you really dont want to be with that person and split leaving the inocents to fend for themselves or better yet just be inseminated like the hollywood crowd does. I am venting
NancyS says:
August 19, 2010 at 3:34 pm
“I was posting a link from what the sheriff said about Ron and Crystal.
I saw people wondering how he is not arrested for the murder of his daughter, wondering how he left work and was at work at the same time etc. I was just posting a link that I found while reading is all.”
Nancy S, the link you posted leads to an old story regurgitated by the Jacksonville paper on Haleig’s birthday. It was regurgitated with no author listed because LE would not comment. The paper told a websleuther this when she called asking if Lt. Greenwood had given a new interview. The paper admitted that LE did not and would not comment.
The comment by Lt. Greenwood is an old one in which he said that Crystal and Ronald are not suspects. It is not a CURRENT statement. It was made before Sherff Hardy of PCSD said “All the world are suspects”.
No one has been cleared by LE in the Haleigh Cummings case. Otherwise Hardy would have said, “The mother and father are cleared”. LE has never said this.
LE always initially says “So-and-so is not a POI or a suspect”…and then, in mny cases, LE goes on to arrest that person later in the case. Just saying because you seem kind of upset if anyone suspects Ron. The case is still open.
I Just got done reading the article from Tommys lawyer.
This story could actually work for me IF the police would arrest these three people and let GOD sort them out. I still think Timmy is in on this and that Chelsea knows it.
I still think it is TIME FOR THE COWARDS TO Come clean!
The sad thing about all this is that they would probably get less time for harming this child then the drug trafficking charges.
Note: Troll alert!
MsEnscene, seems to me that Ron making 90 phone calls while he was supposably at work, per JVM tonight, seems very telling to me. Almost like he knew what was going to happen that night. JMO I just have bad vibes about Ron, always have, and always will til the truth comes out, if it ever does. Misty and Tommy and the rest of the yahoos might be liars, but…somewhere down this dusty trail, Ronald has put some real fear in these kids, probably made death threats against them if they ever talked! And to think some people think Crystal is involved?? Blows my mind
1. His GF, whom he just recovered from a 3 day drug binge was watching his kids.
2. Ron is in jail for selling dope, which imo he was also at the time Haleigh went missing, otherwise, not sure what one needs an assault rifle laying around for.
3. Misty bro and cousin are having some sort of riff with the pair.
I do not think Ron knew what happened to Haleigh, but I find him just as neglectful ultimately, how is this even debated?
B
On another note, Nancy, I dont know where you get that I was refering to the Grandmother being responsible for the demise of their grandaughter ? Maybe you have misread my post, seemingly. I had made one post, and you seemed to have picked me apart. I dont attack people and would appreciate the same from you. I want this case solved just as bad as everyone else, and I certainly am not here to argue with you. This is a great site, and I hate to see it spoiled or tainted with snide remarks. As I said before, alot of intellect here, that’s why I find this site so fascinating. I hope to continue to read and post without being bashed. After all, there is no proof of anything, Its all Just Our Opinions.
Ok, I addressed this in Nancy’s comments, everyone respect each other, if you disagree with a comment and feel compelled to NOT scroll and roll, it must be in response to the information in the post, not a personal attack on the poster, period.
B
Hi-
Just to clarify, NO I don’t get upset if people accuse Ron, it is when they have to judge me for sharing my opinion on what I think happened. I thought it was Crystal in the beginning as she is the only one with a classic motive BUT I got jumped all over for that theory too.
I personally don’t think he did anything to his daughter, I know quite a few people like Ron and just because he does drugs and gets in trouble with the law, don’t mean he killed his daughter and I also have a hard time thinking that Rons mom or gramma did anything to Haleigh, BUT no one knows anything about this case.
If people don’t want me to jump back then don’t pick at me or question my opinion (i love a good debate and a fair one but if you call me out by name) it is rude and I will not stand for it, I have been on this site for a very long time with no problems at all and all of a sudden Haleighs case comes up and people are accusing me of things that don’t matter. who cares if I think Ron is innocent or not?( I dont know who is guilty)
If you see my posts just scroll and roll like Blink says.
Also there are other people on here that don’t think Ron is guilty either so please go back to your other board as I prefer it here, thank you. I do not follow you all so please don’t do it to me.
You will not get me kicked off this site. not this time. I have my opinions just like anyone else on here, attack the post or disagree with me but you don’t have to tell me about it or the whole board. move on please. this crap that don’t belong on this board ok.
To all:
This should be the end of this please. I do NOT know what the deal is but people bicker in this case like no other. Not having it.
We treat each other with respect, and if you don’t feel you can, then sit their post out please.
If I see one more post where a poster is called out “personally” it will simply be deleted.
TIA to all
B
IMOIMO Wow, his attorney is as dumb as the rest of them. Love this comment, “Werter said his client has not had contact with his sister, making each story more believable.
‘The two of these people have not been in contact with each other while in jail, so it was not like they are collaborating on stories,” said Werter.”
Yeah, they only had how many months before that to come up with a story??!!
Also love how Tommy was supposedly with Joe–went with him there, rode with him to dispose of the body–but doesn’t know exactly what happened in between. The attorney says something like Tommy said Joe “took or did something to Haleigh that night.”
Um, if you were there, which was it? And then the headline claims Joe strangled her although there’s no mention of that in the story. But I don’t have my contacts in yet, maybe I missed it. Still, so Joe strangles the girl and Tommy did nothing to stop him?
It just doesn’t add up. Like someone said, Misty seeing the bag while hiding under the covers. And why was she so scared of her cousin?
Also, I found this report of Croslin’s attorney’s story… http://www.news4jax.com/news/24690929/detail.html. The interesting thing here is this comment:
“Werter said Croslin rode in a van to a dock with Overstreet as Haleigh’s lifeless body lay in the back seat.
‘Haleigh was quiet, limp and not moving, like she was sleeping,’ Werter said.”
Um, Tommy has xray vision now? Because I thought everyone said she was in a black bag?
And correct me if I’m wrong, but seems to me someone who has been strangled would probably not look like they were quietly sleeping? Wouldn’t (sorry to be graphic) her eyes be open? After all, she was supposedly awake and screaming. And wouldn’t there be some sort of trauma to the neck?
And then in an interview with art harris, her attorney claims, “that her Tennesee cousin had come looking for a machine gun and when he couldn’t find it, got angry, “roughed up Misty, sexually groped her,” then tossed Haleigh into a black bag and left.”
And how did he do that while she was hiding under the covers?
These people–all of them–need to be freaking waterboarded or something to get the truth out of them.
Also, I hate to keep posting links but this woman Dr. Lillian Glass has done some interesting analysis of the body language of the major players here:
http://drlillianglass.com/body-language-blog/2010/04/18/joe-overstreets-body-language-analysis-shows-signals-of-deception-but-what-did-haleigh%E2%80%99s-father-ron%E2%80%99s-previous-body-language-show/
I really do think there is something to body language–it’s much harder for us to control than our words. And who really thinks to?
Anyway, if she’s right, then no one at all is telling the complete truth. And some of her comments make me rethink my opinion of Ron.
If Misty was sexually abused as a young child by this cousin- then she probably is frozen in fear around him. Who knows what that did to her mentally. Her mind not being clear from drugs, fear of the cousin, traumatized by him in the past, she probably reverts back to that little child herself around him & I dont judge her. Her mind was not clear thinking that night – that is for sure & perhaps distorted from so many days of partying. Yes anyone would have just called 911 when he left with that baby girl, but I think she wanted to talk to Ron on how to go about it since they dealt drugs & she didnt want to get him in trouble either.-SHe may have feared Ron would harm her for calling police- who knows.. I dont think that Misty would have never hurt those babies. she is a product of her upbringing & doesnt have much for a role model. I hear people bashing her so bad but she is mentally like a 10 yr old. I dont think she knew what the right thing to do really was. After 3 days of parting on who knows what- how did she even have the mind to watch the kids at all.
may little Haleigh rest in peace
my first question was ,why would she be protecting joe all this time???she’s lyin.
and my second question was, why point the finger now?ah..he passed the poly ,he’s a safe scapegoat.sort of.
she says he put a live 5 year old in a blk bag ,plastic trash bag? a five year old can poke a foot thru one of those common styles,it wouldve had to have been super strength.
Nancy I have always enjoyed your post, with that when can we expect a an arrest? Anyone know, this is one of the saddest cases that I have followed to date, will there be an arrest will we ever know?
I don’t know where Ron falls into this and I don’t care I want to know where this baby is and why….?
These Croslins are a nightmare, and what a sad/good example of what drugs do to a person.
@cherylynne I agree with you that she could be afraid of Joe if he abused her in the past. That would make some sense to me. And she definitely seems to have a troubled upbringing.
The problem is, unless they’re not releasing full info about the phone records, that Misty did NOT call Ron that night. In fact, she ducked his calls for a long while. So it’s hard to believe that she just wanted to talk to Ron before the police.
Yes, Misty is getting crucified but IMO that’s more because she keeps changing her stories and is obviously holding info back.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone suggest that Misty deliberately killed or deliberately tried to hurt Haleigh. I think most people assume it was some kind of accident, with her actions at the time either causing or contributing to it…or at very least, the cover up.
But it is unconscionable that she–that none of them–have told the complete truth long before now.
@susanm Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Misty has said before it was Joe/had to be Joe because of his criminal background or something to that effect. And that may have been as early as the week of the disappearance. But she was always rather vague about it and said she didn’t know.
But I do agree, why wouldn’t she have given all these details before now if it really was him. All that time and all that pressure she was under even before her arrest…nah.
She and Tommy would have thrown him completely under the bus and even helped drive it over him looooong ago if it were true. No way they’d both be so scared of this 150 pound punk to put up with all this crap.
Plus, Ron would have gone after Joe before he was arrested.
She is protecting someone she cares MUCH more about–maybe herself, maybe her brother, maybe Ron if Haleigh did get into some of his drugs or something. I think Joe is just a convenient decoy.
But good point about the black, possible trash, bag. She would have kicked right through it.
Plus, like someone else said, one of the neighbors surely would have heard Haleigh’s scream.
And while Junior was only 3 or 4 (I keep seeing conflicting ages), I know my nephew that same age would have mentioned hearing his sister scream when he mentioned the man in black. There’s no way he would have skipped that detail. No way.
What a sad, sad life those two little kids had. I sure hope that somehow Junior ends up in a better situation.
Tracylee you ask why Misty might not have told what happened that night. Well it seems with that/those families they have an unbelievable belief in “snithces are bit–es”. Squealing on your family and the love of your life who shares in your big drug habit is a real NONO! I don’t live far away from them and I have their kind as we all do right here in my town. They really adhere to “deny till you die”! Even if I found out my own Son had done this I would have to see that justice was done. It would be the hardest thing I would ever have to do but I couldn’t let him walk around free after murdering someone. Especially a child! I am now thinking that all (WBG, NayNay, JO, TC, MC and others) were out partying together and prolly both kids were drugged but HC didn’t wake up and nobody noticed till too late! Juniors’ ‘man in black’ may be JO or TC dressed in black with the black (laundry bag wasn’t it?)bag carrying HC out to van. MC stayed home with Junior and maybe he went on to sleep again. We’ve never heard from the little boy about that night. How does a child sleep through people tearing up a house and hollering for his Sissy? He’s still drugged up that’s how. I said it the day I saw MC and RC on tv…I hope they gave them all drug tests, Junior included. You could see that both of them were on something. All MOO. I forgot to include LC in this mess. She’s not stupid where her man is concerned and I’m sure she figured it out too. Let’s don’t forget TiC and his wife who ran out of town too. The whole family knows but they won’t tell on each other. The only one who seems to have some sort of conscience if Hank C.. He seems tormented by the fact that he knows his children played a part in HaLeigh’s death but won’t come right out and say it. You could hear him begging Misty to tell the truth about what happened and her shutting him down by saying she didn’t know anything or anymore than she already told. He just won’t come right out and say what he suspects/knows because he feels so guilty over how he ruined their lives with drug use, nonparenting, etc.. Please, this is all my opinion and behavior seen in my own neck of the woods!
After reading some news articles I have come to ONLY One conclusion.
All of these people lie and what I think is smart? is that instead of keeping with the she got kidnapped story, they say Joe did it and now Misty says Joe put her in a bag, Tommy says he thinks? she was strangled? okay so now they have BOTH told us that Haleigh is not with us anymore and in my opinion they had a part in it and also Chelsea, Timmys wife said that Joe was staying with them and that Grandma Flo was lying? How does she know who is lying if she or her husband werent there? they all know what is going on and why in the world don’t the police take these statements and use them for what they are, confessions? or admission of seeing something and participating. ARREST SOMEONE for Haleigh! you can do it!
Once a couple of them are arrested for her MURDER they will start singing like birdies. I would bet money on it.
It seems like this family simply CHOOSEs to not protect their children. Their asociation with drugs, weapons, bottom dwellers and a lack of education are the perfect ingredients to bring harm to these babies. AND of course there’s gonna be finger pointing in this family. When you do drugs, binge for days, pass out and can’t remember a damn thing, accountability isn’t exactly your virtue.
Just sayin.
Have a blessed w/e everyone. Good to see y’all!!!! ~Love~
Blink…A poster asked me a question. I put her name before I answered only because she asked me a question and I thought she wanted an answer.
Evidently, she did not like my answer. Should I have answered without addressing her question, personally? Or shall we not answer any questions, just speak in genralities about our own opinions? That’s what most do, here, and if this is a sounding board, only, that’s okay, too. Sometimes that is needed. Either way, I don’t care. But I was not rude.
Which comment are you referring to?
I have never known you to be rude, so no. As long as we remain respectful, speak your peace.
B
Peace be with you Blink but I think you meant ‘piece’. Just saying. See, I’m picking up the lingo!
Very true Blink, it is almost hard to debate this case! sorry about the confusion, from now on I’ll scroll and roll.
Much thanks, Blink. I willl continue to behave myself!
Please forgive me if this is wrong, but I seem to remember something that someone said (Misty’s grandmother maybe?) — something like Misty may have been molested by Joe, but she must have liked it because she later went to TN and stayed with him for awhile. It sounds sick, and it makes me feel ill just writing it, but it’s sticking in the back of my mind that this was said. If it’s true, is it possible that Misty might be trying to hide whatever relationship she and Joe had the night Haleigh disappeared? This family is so messed up.
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100820/ARTICLES/100829978/1118?Title=Ronald-Cummings-pleads-guilty-to-drug-trafficking
This is an article about Rons pleading today to his 3 counts I think?
He gets two charges dropped for talking to prosecutors about what he saw etc and if necessary he was going to testify against the others in return for a plea deal. We shall see what happens when he gets his sentence….It looks like he is looking at at least 15 years also.
MsEnscene- It is saying someones name to answer a post in an attacking way that is the problem, other than that we can address others like
Thanks Dee for your kind words, I enjoy reading your posts too.
Ragdoll-
I TOTALLY agree with you, I was noticing the same thing. It seems as though no one was watching these children.
I babysat for bikers and such growing up but they were nothing like this. They made sure the children were taken care of and they left to party etc. This is just unacceptable. I was also wondering (with no answers I am sure)why if everyone was so “afraid” of Ron, why did they all show up to court today. any ideas?
Here is a picture of Crystal leaving the court today after exchanging words with Lisa Croslin….sad but her hair looks cute I think.
http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/Crystalsheffield.jpg
This is the transcript from the JVM show last night in which Kim Picazio relates being told by a person at Ron’s workplace that he was in the habit of leaving his work shift:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1008/20/ijvm.01.html
…also someone else told her (Kim) that he brought the kids to work and left the kids sleeping in the car a couple of times because Misty had run off. Then Ron left his shift to check on the kids sleeping in his car at night, in cool weather.
Misty, says Kim Picazio, was in the habit of running off and leaving the kids w/o a sitter.
Why would Teresa Neves, Ron’s mother give such a thumbs up to Misty? Why is Gma Sykes placing Misty at the MH at 7:00 p.m. on Feb. 9?
Obvious reason is that they are covering for Ron because of his being “the better parent” to have custody of the kids and because DCP had been looking closely at Ron for Haleigh’s absences from school, among other things.
An interesting show, finally.
Also, on this show the 90 plus calls to Misty the night of Feb. 9. The talking heads argue about whether that number is possible.
Isn’t she the one (Kim) that was involved with that Cobra guy? lol
they belonged in that bunch too didn’t they?
Kim was Crystals attorney and backed out of it as she caught Crystal doing drugs in the Haleigh bug center, it is closed now. That sure didn’t last too long.
I learned a long time ago that JVM and NG are not on the reliable source list and will not give them my tv ratings, I cannot believe they are even behind the National Enquirer which is beginning to be more reliable…lol
I only come HERE if I want to know the FACTS of these cases.
there are so many mistruths out there. especially in this case.
Even if they all confessed it would be hard to believe them.
Yep, it was said by family JO molested Misty and of course she could’ve been hiding what she was doing with him that night. She went to visit him according to FH while in TN. How many peeps you know go see their supposed molester? I know, I know, Misty Croslin, that’s who?
Barf alert warning….. I watch Animal Planet a lot and in a show about gators – they don’t like to eat fresh meat. They will sometimes leave their kill to, well decompose a bit, like nature’s tenderizer. But if they got little Haleigh – as long as she has been missing – I don’t think this will be solved. Maybe a prosecution on neglect charges? I don’t know……will it be a no body no crime thing???????
MsEnscene-
Seems you and I are on the same page. I also watched JVM about the phone calls he made to his house that night, but I thought they said 98?? Looks like instead of calling so many times, he would have just left work, if he was that concerned, dont you think? The Croslins are covering for Ron, and IMO they always have. I dont believe there’s too much he can do to them, seeing he is behind bars now. I say Let er fly!
Hello All! I have also been reading quitely. To stop my twitching, I now post.
I think the biggest obstacle in figuring this case out is having a brain and using it. I think the key is to remove all thought from your head and just observe. Like watching an egg boil and later trying to figure out why there’s a ring around the yolk.
My observations, posted in other places long ago, lead me here:
-Misty is not intelligent. She could not plan a cover-up; she could not even plan a wash and dry.
-Ron’s concerns about his children begin and end with keeping them alive to receive a support payment.
If you care about your kids, you don’t leave them from 2pm-3am with a 17 year old drug addict. And, if you should have the misfortune of being arrested after one of your children disappears, would your first few phone calls home NOT be about the welfare of your only remaining child, who has now lost the entire family he knew? We heard Ron’s calls home about his underwear, his chain, his mail, and the “rat.” Did anyone hear him ask how is son is?
IMHO, the only person with any intelligence in the whole motley crew is Teresa. She’s been fixing RC’s messes his whole life. For me, the first thing that solidified my belief that Teresa and Ron are involved up to their eyeballs was the call from Misty to TN that she couldn’t watch Haleigh. On the surface alone, when a babysitter says they are incapable of watching a child, what parent/grandparent worth their title would insist that she does? Especially when there is a backup sitter available? Not one that I know.
When one digs deeper, it begs the question, was that night different b/c Misty was back from a binge, or was that night different because Haleigh was already in a coma and needed constant “watching.” Why would TN say I’ll watch her if it’s ok with Ronald, and why would Ronald say no? Only so Teresa was not with her if she died. Or why not use the newly revealed plan B. Where Ron takes the kids to work with him and leaves them sleeping in the car?
Because Misty was already set up to be the one present if Haleigh died. All planned and executed by TN. I believe this child was in a coma before Ron left for work. That’s why he called 90 times. Misty probably shut the phone off so she could sleep off her binge having no idea Haleigh was in a coma. She probably woke to find her dead when Tommy arrived at Ron’s insistence. Then Ron had them dispose of her, and stayed away till the deed was done, the house cleaned up, ready for him to arrive and call 911. I’d bet my commissary that TN was there surveying the scene, clutching the 8×10 glossy and orchestrating the cover-up before Ron stepped in the door. Also the reason TN had to accompany them for their media blitz.
I ageree RedRose! If the story of children sleeping in the car is true then RC must’ve worked the last shift at those times and would definately have to keep them asleep by medicating them (IMO) and that could explain why so many absences from school. Getting home by 7a if shift ends near that time, HC too groggy and it’s too close to start time for school. Well, I’m sure she missed school some cause Daddy was too eff’d up to wake up some days or too tired from hunting all night the best gf he’s ever had all over town.
RedRose.
I have always thought Haleigh was injured beyond recovering before Ron went to work…someplace…not necessarily in the MH. And then the next act was a scramble to get everybody’s story in place and get Ron out of there, safely at work.
LE, who says practically nothing, did say that the forensic evidence from the MH did not match Misty’s story. In other words, it sounds as if they think Haleigh’s disappearance was staged at the MH where the evidence would not tell the story. Was she hurt elsewhere? In one of the Croslin homes? Or in a car?
Was she hurt soon after she got off that bus and nobody recognized until later that she was in dire straits?
The reason I believe she could have been hurt elsewhere is the difficulty is obtaining the info of who actually picked Haleigh up after school. And who may have seen her playing at the MH that afternoon. Did the AC man actually see or know Haleigh? What real-named people (neighbors) outside the members of the three lying families can testify to seeing Haleigh at the MH that afternoon or evening?
Annete Sykes does not count. Her story of being there only came out when Misty’s story of being there all night was called into question by LE. (Sykes: “That’s a crock!”)
Ron says he picked up Haleigh from school.
Teresa said Ron did. (How does she know? Was she there?)
Misty says she did…and a witness backs Misty up as picking up Haleigh from the bus stop and driving away with her in the opposite direction of the MH with Ron following her.
I think wherever Haleigh met her accident…and I believe her death was unintentional…it had to have been the result of rage dircted at somebody else, perhaps… a fight that she got in the middle of, or a gunshot intended for another person.
I suppose she could have been drugged to keep her out of the way, but that seems a stretch with any theory that she got hurt soon after getting off the bus. . Although, he and Misty might have drugged both kids at times to get them to sleep while their two druggie caretakers fought or schmoozed or needed peace and quiet.
However Haleigh met by this “accident”, it could not be reported to the police because of the lifestyle led by everyone implicated. Guns, drugs, dealing, and rage is a mighty good predictor of collateral damage happening to the kids.
One thing I am sure of is that no stranger came into that MH and took Haleigh. The Croslins, the Cummings, and the Sykes families are heavily into drugs and (many members have criminal records) and all the seaminess that goes along with that lifestyle.
They all have something to hide, even if it is just protecting the younger family members in the drug world. The day/night Haleigh went missing, perhaps members of all three families were up to collusion.
Why would Ron be getting a deal for his promise to give timeline info in Haleigh’s case if anybody goes on trial for her “disappearance”?
What does Ron know about a timeline, now, that he didn’t tell the police at the time of Haleigh’s disappearance? He said on national TV that he asked Misty nothing about Haleigh’s disappearance while they were married. Huh?
Why would a father who “lost his heart” keep anything from the police at that time in the effort to find his heart and refuse to interview with the police after March of ’09?
Everybody stood to lose from Haleigh’s unintended death. Why should anybody go to prison for an “Accident” when Haleigh couldn’t be brought back?
Children may be loved in these kinds of families, but they are also expendable.
Ron’s statement during his emotional scene where he fell on his knees and exclaimed for the TV camera “I would give anything to have my daughter’s LIFE BACK!” says a lot.
But then Ron didn’t give much to get his daughter’s life back, did he? He refused to help LE. He married the “key” and he went on about his drugging and dealing and smirking as if nothing had happened.
I really believe with my whole heart (I will eat crow if I am wrong) that Ron would not have called the police if this was his fault, it would have been covered up and NO WAY do these people call the cops unless it is something that really happened.
I just don’t understand how the police could have let this go this long?
There is rumor that the evidence don’t say what Misty told them? why don’t they let some information out and at least attempt to get the publics help?
lol Redrose,
your post sounds like you were there and letting us all know how it happened. I wish it was that easy. we have no clue what happened in this case and it is getting old.
It is so sad like the Christine Sheddy case…..geesh
Lisa Croslin OD’d on xanax and peter hyatt, and simon and jan barret from bnn seem to imply art harris gave her the money to do so. That doesn’t sound very pro to call another journalist out like that. They didn’t say ah’s name, but they didn’t have to. Peter hyatt is from statement analysis.
I’m a long time reader first time poster, and this whole case is a mess. It causes fights between so many bloggers, its nuts! Oy vey! This family!
Mysterie on Mysteries:
Lt. Johnny Greenwood, public information officer, PCSO, is in this video interview (Oct. 2, 2009, with a Gainsville reporter saying that his department received a report regarding HaLeigh Cummings shortly after TWO O’CLOCK in the morning on February 10, 2009. “We received the call at, you know, two thirteen in the morning, sometime shortly after two o’clock in the morning,” he said.
I have actually seen the transcript of dispatcher and officers talking about the earlier call.
Now, what was going on at that time earlier than Ron and Misty’s 911 call? Was there a disturbance at Tommy’s? Wasn’t there a report that a dog was barking up a storm at the T. Croslin residence? Has anybody saved a link to that earler dispatch? I saved it but cannot find it, now.
Both Chelsea’s and Lindsy’s stories about the whereabouts of their husbands change with the wind at the slightest LE or Media provocation.
Here’s the Greenwood video interview link.
http://video.gainesville.com/video/43657956001
Here is my take on all the players here…..
My coin on Ron is a two sided coin.
I do believe Ron loved his daughter. I remember in the beginning hearing about when Haleigh was hospitalized once for her Turner Syndrome, wasn’t it said that Ron never left the hospital? I’m pretty sure that it was also said that he did get her to all her Dr appointments and all that stuff, whereas the Bio Mom did not.
With that being said, do I believe Ron’s parenting skills were tip top? No. If it is true that he left the kids sleeping in the car while at work and went to check on them, that says it there ALTHOUGH he didn’t leave them at home alone, which is one good thing. My question here would be if Misty was binging and he had no one to watch the kids so he had to take him with them, where was Ron’s mother? Why couldn’t she watch the kids those times, just like why didn’t she watch the kids the night Haleigh went missing? Something seems amiss in this piece of things. Anyway, I think he got himself involved in drugs, which never leads your life down a good road, I think he thought with a different part of his body than his mind, which is how he ended up in an intimate relationship with Misty. I think he married her precisely so he wouldn’t get charged for her being 17. In my opinion, what he was “hiding” in the beginning was the whole drug thing, possibly out of fear of obviously himself being charged but maybe also worried about loosing the kids of the drug thing all came out.
MISTY: I think this girl was raised by druggies, her whole family is druggies, she did not receive anything past elementary education, I believe, and I know this is rude and crude, but I am just stating my own personal opinion, but I think Misty was also used to getting what and who she wanted by means of sex, and that is how she was raised. I think Misty thinks only of Misty. I see her as far beyond her years in street smarts and very inmature and behind her years on the responsiblity, common sense, and reality of things. I think Misty thinks only of Misty, is used to getting what she wants, and really doesn’t care much about anybody else. I definately do not think she had the maturity or the responsibility to have children left in her care. I would not be surpised one bit to find out that she really gave Haleigh something just to “quiet her down” and it ended up killing her. As a matter of fact, that is what I believe really happened and that she called Tommy into help her and they decided to pin it on Joe. Although, I do not rule out Joe being involved either. I can’t rule out anything by anyone in the Croslin family because I think Misty is a perfect example of what her whole family is like.
TOMMY / JOE: Two peas of a pod, I think. I do not believe for one minute that Tommy feared Joe. I find it hard to believe that Misty did. Heck, Misty went to stay with him for a bit, doesn’t sound like she’s afraid of him to me. Joe is tiny in structure and definately Misty and Tommy together, 2 against 1, could not possibly have been so afraid of Joe that they couldn’t protect Haleigh from him. No way can I buy this.
RON’S MOTHER: I touched on this before. If Misty was binging, why would she not watch the kids as opposed to Ron having to take the kids to work with him because Misty was binging, as reported her previously, or leaving them with a strung out Misty, as what happened the night Haleigh went missing? This is the one piece that makes the least amount of sense to me.
That sums up my take on all the players.
They are all drug sodden white trash–and I am not being prejudiced because there is trash in every race. I think Ron and Misty are both up to their eyeballs in the death of Haleigh because of their drug use. What kind of an idiot shows off an assault rifle in front of children and who has that in their home anyway? I cant believe that Ron’s mother works anywhere near law enforcement–hello–background checks. Anyway poor Haleigh is dead, and those families are responsible because of their sorry lives.
Took the words right outta my mouth!
Martha,
What idiot tells Tim Miller (according to Tim Miller) in the presence of his little son that if he finds out that Misty is involved he will blow her head out “the side of her face” and then kill himself…demonstrating that latter point by putting the gun in his mouth in front of his son?
Ron is a Drama Queen to end all. And a mighty bad actor for all of it.
Martha-
Do you know that Rons mom has a record? as she does work for LE in the next county over from Putnam.
Mistys mom has a record and has done drugs.
We dont know what these people did behind closed doors unless you were in there to see the guns etc in the house.
This case is really hard from all the speculation but maybe we can be a little easier on the family that has lost Haleigh until we know who did this? Ron and Crystal have been said to be cleared by the sheriff and that is the last I heard.
IT is a VERY sad situation for sure…
I hope to God they find her somewhere…..
Oh boy, this case just brings the worst out of people right? I know I’m new to all you guys (reader/lurker for a while) and sorry to say this cause I don’t anyone to think I’m a stuck up new yorker but- wth is going on with this family?! Slack Jawed Yokels. Idk if that picture is of CS going after LC or not. Is that all that’s giving life to the “fight” is that pic from the court house.
I can’t believe one of them, not one of them. And besides this place its getting harder to believe what some people are writing-if you know what I’m talking about. The editors vs lawyer vs good samaritan debacle goin’ on. Jebus!!