Kyron Horman Missing: Case Review And Birthday Wishes To The Frog Prince
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On what is Kyron Horman’s 8th Birthday, the Skyline School, where Kyron was scheduled to begin the third grade, is buzzing with the start of the years activities without him.
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In response to the disappearance and presumed abduction of the bespectacled herpetologist; Skyline has implemented a myriad of mandatory safety features as well as a state of the art security camera system. While complete with facial recognition capability, one face it will not be recognizing today, is that of Kyron Horman.
Although missing since the morning of June 4, 2010, there have been no updates from the many State and Federal agencies participating in the criminal investigation of his disappearance since August 12, 2010.
Adding to the mounting concern about the status of Kyron’s fate are the words of his own parents, Kaine Horman and Desiree Young.
“The police will not stop until they find Kyron and the harder they have to search–the harder this will get for you,” wrote Young. “You will go to jail and whoever has been helping you will have to talk police or they will go to jail.”
It is clear from Kaine and Desiree’s comments that they believe Terri Horman, Kyron’s step mom, is at least partially responsible for Kyron vanishing. While they stop short of naming any possible accomplices, Rod Underhill, the chief deputy district attorney of Multnomah County, Captain Jason Gates, Detective Bob O’Donnell of the Multnomah County Sheriff Office have sought the publics help to flush them out. Multnomah County Chief Deputy District Attorney Rod Underhill said a witness, or witnesses, have reported seeing someone else by the Hormans’ extended-cab pickup while it was parked in front of the school between 8:15 a.m. and 8:45 a.m. on June 4, the day Kyron disappeared. In what was characterized as a slip-up, methinks that that Kyron’s Mom told us that someone was actually Kyron.
While Terri Horman is holed up at her parents newly refinanced home in Roseburg and under the mortgage-sized retainer protection of Stephen Houze; she is awaiting the September 21st contempt hearing for allegedly violating an order that she not disclose the “sealed” reasoning for, or contents of, the current restraining order in effect against her.
Accomplice, Witness, Opportunist or Collateral Damage?
Rodolfo “Rudy” Estrada Sanchez
When reached at one of the numbers records show is billed in his brothers name, Jaime Estrada Sanchez, who uses the name Jaime Estrada on his carpet cleaning business website declined to comment to blinkoncrime.com and the number has since been disconnected.
Speaking on the condition of anonymity, a close family friend who has since been interviewed by the FBI, has confirmed that Terri Horman is pointing her finger directly at Sanchez. She has also stated that she and Sanchez had an altercation after she attempted to end their relationship in May which ended in a 911 call and a visit from Clackamas County Sheriff Office in the presence of Sanchez’s wife and children. While it did not result in any charges, Horman told the source that the landscaper was furious with her because he is not in the US legally. While blinkoncrime.com has not been able to verify the date of the alleged 911 call, we have been able to verify that Terri called her Mother immediately following the incident and told her that Kaine had found out about the landscaper she hired to do what she referred to as “her yardwork” and when she informed him that she could no longer use him because Kaine was making her fire him, he lunged at her with Kiara in her arms. Kaine Horman denies the couple ever hired the landscaper as well as any previous information as to his estranged wife’s possible dealings with Sanchez.
It should be noted that Mr. Sanchez has not been charged with any crime in this matter and local references to his business are highly complimentary. In fact, Jean Ann Van Krevelen a friend and “mentor” of Dede Spicher has used RS Landscape Maintenance on a few occasions, leaving positive reviews on the ServiceMaster listing which deleted his business from the site on 6/21/10. Heather Walters, owner of Rosemont Farm,which is not West Wind Farm, where Dede Spicher was working the morning of June 4th and out of reach by phone from approximately 90 minutes, has never met Terri Horman or heard of their family prior to Kyron’s disappearance. When I asked her if she knew Rudy Sanchez or if she ever hired his firm to work at WWF, she replied “not that I recall, no, but we did have a blackberry clean up a few years ago so it is possible.”
Anselmo Sanchez-Sanchez
Or has he?
Although records indicate that he was placed under post probation supervision by ICE on February 19, 2010, according to Mr. Sanchez-Sanchez Federal criminal docket after being “found in the US and apprehended” in August 2009” following a previous deportation in 2003, he was “administratively arrested” on February 23, 2010. A Federal Grand Jury’s subsequent indictment was issued on March 4 and he was immediately incarcerated.
Mr. Sanchez-Sanchez rap sheet includes convictions for rape, failure to register as a sex offender and a host of probation and parole violations prior to his deportation.
In what can only be categorized as a bizarre coincidence, Oregon BOP VINE network shows that on June 26, 2010, they very day of the “sting” involving Rudy Sanchez, Anselmo was transferred and released to “community supervision”. There is no record of either his transfer or his booking by MCSO July 8th on his docket. What is reflected on the record for June 21st, is the US Marshall Service requested a rescheduling of his plea hearing on July 1st - July 12th directly with the presiding judge outside of his Federal appointed defense attorney. Yep. Exparte. Mr. Sanchez attorney Allison Clark used the 7/12/10 court date to file a motion to quit the case. They have subsequently worked through their differences and were scheduled to appear yesterday, but a 4th continuance in the case was granted to reschedule for October 7, 2010. In that motion, Ms. Clark asserts that Mr. Sanchez has been in custody the entire time but that his records are difficult to retrieve so more time to prepare for trial is necessary. I’ll say.
Dede Spicher
Doppelganger. Organic Gardner. Jilted girlfriend and support network for Terri Horman.
Up until a few weeks ago, she was also very much the object of accusation by Desiree Young and Kaine Horman, as well as the investigators assigned to Kyron’s case. So much so, they released a flyer featuring the ginger ladies and the infamous white truck. LE has subsequently backed off of Spicher and publicly stated they do not believe it was her in the white truck in the lot of the Skyline School. Dede’s father is a semi-retired Klamath County Sheriff deputy. If it can be confirmed Spicher knew Kyron was missing on June 4th we have a very big problem.
Blinkoncrime.com is in receipt of a private post through a mutual friend of Dede’s in response to an article about Kyron’s disappearance from the school which was post on June 4th at 11:40PM
Spicher responded on June 5 at 7:44am: Holy Crap! I KNOW this boy!
Mutual Friend, June 5, 1:35PM: no way???!!! Really Dede?
Spicher: yes. My friend Terri is the step-mother mentioned in the article. It’s so shocking when something like this hits so close to home. < ?xml:namespace prefix ="" v />
Michael Cook
The source of both information for the contempt filing and hundreds of sexts exchanged between he and Terri Horman following Kaine Horman’s filing for divorce and leaving the marital residence as advised by MCSO, Michael Cook was a high school classmate of Kaine Horman.
Mr. Cook is also one smarmy dude if his former spouse Shannon has anything to say about it.
Oddly, blinkoncrime.com has learned from an inside source that Cook was not called before the grand jury to testify. In the instant action for contempt, Kaine Horman’s attorney Laura Rackner specifically references the “sexting” and the text regarding Houze’s fee as information provided by law enforcement.
So, was he acting as an agent for le or is he himself under investigation?
Jason Wishert
William Jason Wishert is undoubtedly wishing he had not interjected himself in this case. Apparently new to the blogosphere via a request from Maxine Bernstein of the Oregonian, Mr. Wishert took to what he saw as his *nuveau*cause*celeb* status with moxy.
That was until he announced his appearance on the scaredmonkeys.net forum to answer questions about the case and cry the blues when he accused the Oregonian of using his rough notes to skewer Dede Spicher. According to Wishert the “not a lot of kissing but plenty of telling” memo was not supposed to be published. About 3 minutes into his introduction to his “sleuthing public” Wishert was asked why he spelled his name incorrectly and if he was indeed the son of convicted child porn possessor William Kent Wishart. In a really bad move, Mr. Wishert denied the allegation and retreated with his tail somewhere on his person.
Kent Wishart, former CEO of Graphic Sciences, is in Federal Custody for the next 4 years for possession of child porn and engaging in a file sharing subscription for same. Jason’s brother Grant is an employee of GS. All three Wishert’s hold numerous active and inactive business licenses throughout Oregon and Washington. Graphic Sciences has a Mexican affiliate office.
Both Jason and his brother James Grant have had numerous legal entanglements (editor’s note: say it just like Chief Margie with the flat “a”) and our attempts to substantiate Jason’s claims about court appointed child advocacy certifications have yet to be confirmed.
However, with his Uncle John Kerr, Jason Wishert is heavily involved in the Friends of Pimpollo Charity which sponsors various children issues and an orphanage in Mexico. FOP is a verified charity with a 50% tax deduction rate according to IRS Publication 78 in good standing, but they are years behind in their annual reporting.
Birthday Boy and America’s Frog Prince
Today, Kyron Horman’s eigth birthday, may not bring us any closer to where our frog prince is, but we do wish to extend our thoughts and prayers in celebration of his special day to his parents, friends and family. There are 2 celebrations for Kyron today. The picture below is an image of the birthday invitation chosen by his Mom, Desiree Young, and designed by scaredmonkeys poster Brandi.
Images by Klaasend
Jason Mateos, Madeline Tanner, and Laura Cincaid contributing editors to this report
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@Rich M…I saw your comment about allowing folks to grow a certain amount of pot legally…after reading all the information I’ve read regarding medicinal pot and pot for personal use,along with the abuse that has stemmed from this legalization via drug cartels etc, I’m “this close” to sayin’ the growth of this kind of product IS the vampire that was let into the house.
I have no idea where all this heading, I know it doesn’t bode well for Kyron and that saddens me to no end.
As for LE being shocked by what they are finding, again, I can’t imagine what on earth could shock a seasoned LEO beyond the obvious horrible things that could have befallen a child, unless they are finding these things are falling on children regularly from different parts of their county or state.
Thoughts and prayers are with Kyron, his brothers and sister.
Someone mentioned this today and I had wondered about it previously. Is it possible that Kaine is not the biological father of Kaira? He certainly his her legal father. That would be so sad.
Another thing pops into my mind is that if TMH is cleared of all suspicions that would mean she would have a good chance at visitation rights. To me that is horrifying in relationship to what happened to her brother,
On another note when the MCS, talked and I haven’t been able to hear it, apparently he made no mention of finding Kyron and bringing him home. He has ALWAYS said that before each time he has spoken. Also he mentioned that they found out a lot that they didn’t want to know about. That is a very scary statement. To me they know Kyron is gone and there is no body to retrieve.
My prayer and thoughs go to Desiree, Tony, Kaine, Kaira and Kyron’s brothers.
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Idahogal says
Speaking of dreams, I will share mine from a few nights ago: I was at the Staton presser with all the media and he said “We’ve seen things we didn’t want to see”. So I said “Can you give us an example?”. Then Staton said “Yes, I can give you one right here” and he held up a big poster of TH naked, and everyone gasped and covered their eyes. In retrospect I think it was actually a nightmare.
that is the funniest thing i have heard all week, lmao and rofl too.
Hi Rich.
In part, I like the idea of decriminalization of marajuana and it sure seems that it would fix a lot of problems. But, legalizing “grow your own” but then it’s criminal to sell it, doesn’t make total sense to me. (I know that’s California’s proposal, not yours.) Most people who would like a little pot are not going to put up with the time, work, space & mess required to dry/cure it; and that’s assuming they were willing to grow it in the first place.
We’re a specialized society. We buy our lettuce, though it’s the easiest of foods to grow-your-own. Grow-your-own pot, in my opinion, would still leave a big market of folks who would just like to purchase it.
Hey everyone, have we established that Elsy isn’t Jaime’s wife? It has been hounding at me that he is the only one we haven’t eliminated that possibility. If I’m way overlooking that tidbit of ruling that possibility out please just ignore my brain fart. lol
@ Rich M We own our own business and we are constantly dealing with the oregon ccb , after reading your earlier post I have a few links that will help ya and found some very interesting people (shall we say) and names with associated business. I dont have time today to post and break my thoughts down, but figured it could help those that do have the time.
by the way, just type in the last name ie”sanchez” or estrada” etc, it pulls up a host of business. You can get to the landscaper info from there as well.
Here ya go:
https://ccbed.ccb.state.or.us/ccb_frames/consumer_info/ccb_index.htm
121738 Not Active – Voluntarily Surrendered ELISEO SANCHEZ
Corporate Officer
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LEOS FLOORCOVERING INC 13136 SW CHIMNEY RIDGE TIGARD OR 97223
182370 Active ELISEO SANCHEZ
Corporate Officer
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LEOS FLOORING CORPORATION 13136 SW CHIMNEY RIDGE TIGARD OR 97223
39.Rich M says:
September 18, 2010 at 11:54 am
Rich, if you are at the Oregon Sec. of State website, there are several options to do a business search. One the right side of the page, you can search by business name or individual name. On the left side of the page you can calibrate your search as to how restrictive you want the search to be. Hope it helps. (warning: you may experience a headache, reams of printed papers and hours that fly by in what appears to be minutes).
38.Idahogal says:
September 18, 2010 at 11:52 am
Freddy Sanchez did show up on the Cornelius Pass Rd address through Peoplefinder. I did a reverse address search on 411.com and found several names at this address that indicted it is an apartment building. Anselmo Sanchez-Sanchez a/k/a/Freddy Sanchez is 28 on the document we have on this website. The Freddy at this address is older but is no longer there according to 411. As far as him being the one on June 4th to have a part in Ky’s disappearance, it’s unlikely, as we have been lead to believe he was incarcerated at that time. We have been lead to believe that he could have participated in the sting on June 26th.
37.Whaazupwitchu says:
September 18, 2010 at 11:20 am
I did an FMCSA Motor Carrier search and found that Ulbaldo Sanchez had his USDOT # revoked on 03/25/09 under his name with a dba Sanchez Nursery. Gabriel Sanchez of Sanchez Transport, at a different Woodburn address, had his revoked 07/19/05.
As far as the business mentoring goes, I would hate to besmirch the meaningful contribution they are making. It just bothers me when I can’t find the legal information on an enterprise, and we all know anyone can say anything on a website, but is it true? It makes me wonder if BPN and OEA are related since they provide essentially the same services to small businesses. If they are related, then Jaime could be linked to Oaxaca. That said, it is possible that just one nefarious businessman is a member in an otherwise legitimate enterprise.
For anyone wondering how these names go together and why we are searching, must of us simply do not know EXACTLY. Is it more than interesting that two other children went missing with their mother Elsy Sanchez a/k/a Meija – Puerto just before Ky. I think so, especially since there was a felony warrant issued for her and Blink told us there was no custody agreement in place to justify this warrant. Blink also said LE must really want to speak with her.
If you are people searching, like me, last night, I looked through the Oregon Offender Search website and just started typing in a first initial and an asterisk with the last name Sanchez. If you look at their a/k/a’s it kind of helps to understand how the Latino surnames work.
For example, the same Ubaldo Sanchez could be Ubaldo F Sanches, could be Ubaldo Fernandez Sanchez, Could be Ubaldo R (Fernandez) Sanchez. The F that we assumed was a middle initial could be Ubaldo’s last name, along with Sanchez and the “R” is really his middle name. Follow me here, if Ubaldo was asked for his name, he would say Ubaldo Fernandez Sanchez. He is giving one first name and two last names. In American culture we would assume we had just been given a first, middle and last name and record him as Ubaldo F. Sanchez, thus creating an erroneous middle initial through no deception of Ubaldo’s.
…I can’t seem to see the forest for the trees either. But I do think TH must be up to her eyeballs in this. If she wasn’t, I think we would not know where she is now living, her parents and her children would be in protective custody and Kaine would likely not be back in their home. Also, I just find it so strange that TH has shown no indication of wanting to reach out to her children. My gosh, to saddle your elderly parents with this burden, abandon your children and allegedly refuse to help LE, you’ve got to be dang COLD as ice. I think of Kyron each day and wonder where this case is headed. God bless you Kyron.
I find it interesting that Kaine said Terri had been “distancing” herself from Kyron. Years ago I read a research study about how people react when they know someone is leaving. I think the study was based in a school setting but they had seen the same behavior in adults. The study showed that when we know someone is leaving (new school, moving away, new job) we subconsciously start distancing ourself from them to protect ourselves and our emotions so we will be less hurt when they leave and better able to cope with the hole they leave. If Terri did have a MFH plot and was talking bad about Kaine to everyone, it cerainly sounds like she knew/thought her relationship with Kaine was coming to and end and obviously Kyron would not be with her, he would either go with Kaine or if Kaine was deceased, back to Desiree. Perhaps she began distancing herself from Kyron when it became clear to her that he was not going to be in her life for much longer?
I think I would need to understand the context of that remark; it is subjective.
B
One piece is not making sense to me…
If Rudy is involved and has worked out some kind of immunity deal and is naming names and assisting in sting operations, then wouldn’t he be putting himself squarely in the crosshairs for retaliation from whatever organization (or individuals) he might be exposing?
Putting it more frankly, if Kyron, our sweet frog prince, is collateral damage in a larger web of criminal activity then clearly these people are the type that “don’t mess around.” And Rudy would know this. Why would he risk being a snitch or a nark?
Off-topic: Amber Alert issued in Illinois.
http://www.wthr.com/story/13177663/amber-alert-issued-in-illinois
Was found, and ok. Custodial situation.
B
First, many thanks to Blink for this outstanding website. Recently, most posts seem to focus on (the) Sanchez(es), implying a central role in the disappearance of Kyron Horman. I like to refocus attention on Terry. Consider the following points:
1. Kyron was in harm’s way because he was taken out of the school that morning.
2. Only Terry could’ve gotten Kyron out of school: either by taking him out or by INSTRUCTING him to meet her or a familiar person (to Kyron) near back door.
3. Any third party, including RS, an accomplice, an angry wife or whatever could not have gotten Kyron out to the street or parking lot. It would’ve been too risky to even attempt this. If Kyron questions it, someone is likely to notice (a friend/teacher/parent) and then all alarms would go off. Even if kyron goes along totally quietly, someone could notice a blue eyed child walking/getting in truck with a Mexican man (no ill intent, just that the eye will focus and remember the out of “normal”). For a potential kidnapper, the matter would be way too risky to try.
I thus re-emphasize here that Terry for some illicit reason took Kyron out of school on June 4th. Eithet she premeditated harming him, she handed him to someone who will harm him or put Kyron in a situation where he could be snatched and harmed. This last scenario is where the RS’s could come into the picture.
With all respect to Blink, Terry did not let the vampire in, Terry HANDED Kyron to the Vampire.
I emphatically disagree that Terry took Kyron out of Skyline. If there were a scintilla of evidence he left with her she would have been charged with something.
B
Recent kerfuffle between Blink and Jason Wishe(a)rt in the comments aside, anyone else find it interesting that Blink included a blurb on him in her most recent post? I’m not feeling any direct involvement from him, though his public antics have been most peculiar. My take on him so far is just that he’s a bizarre guy on the sidelines.
But….is Blink’s inclusion in the most recent article suggestive of something about the “criminal aspects” of this case? Or, is he just another peculiar side character in the wings of this much broader tragedy?
What if the custodial interference warrant is against Elyse for having Kyron. What if somebody gave him to her (e.g. she did not take him), but they need to find her. Also, if Kyron’s glasses were actually left in a mailbox or something along those lines… they might also have left more proof of having him (e.g. a picture of him being held?) This type of proof might also be the reason Capt Stanton was choking up during the first press find…
@Blink…
Earlier you mentioned you were still confused who Roger was. I think we all assume you are talking about Roger Yerke of NW Plainview Road-the man who gave a brief interview and said that agents asked him the whereabouts of a certain family.
He used to be an educational manager at the Oregon Zoo, and possibly a chef that offers his services and his HOME for “Our House of Portland”…a foundation founded for people living with HIV/Aids, looks like he held an event at his home on July 18th, 2010.
Can you set us all straight; is the same Roger you were confused about?
Not confused at all, I know who Roger is?
B
Sorry, here is link to “Our house of Portland”
http://www.ourhouseofportland.org/assets/dinner-series/OurHouse-DinnerSeries-2010-Catalog.pdf
@ Rich.. so, you and I have been doing some of the same sort of random searching (thanks for your links!) today. Sometimes I just let my mind wander a bit and see what it turns up.
Oh! I thought you’d like to know that Jaime’s phone does get answered sometimes. He was in a room full of children.
@ Everyone: That leads group is really just what it says. Looking them up, I believe I was recruited to that exact group at one point. They aren’t my cup o’ tea, although I know and know of several of the members in this group. Who Jaime may have been acquainted with to get invited, I have no idea.
So, back to my wanderings. I’ll try to keep it brief. I haven’t gone so far as to make a direct connection to this case, but the multi-agency thing, the DEA, FBI, and all of a sudden Canby/Oregon City etc coming into it, it almost seems worth contact Max Bernstein at the Oregonian and asking her if SHE thinks there is a connection.
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Canby steroid supplier’s cooperation with FBI spreads investigation to other law enforcement agencies, including Portland
Published: Monday, May 03, 2010, 9:20 PM
http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2010/05/canby_steroid_suppliers_cooper.html
This story was *huge* and I don’t recall one thing about it.. probably because it was ‘down there’ and not here in town where I live. And who really cares about meth-jacked steroid freaks unless they’re breaking into your car, anyway. Weird thing is, this guy was a .. wait for it.. competitive body builder! And oops, he was supplying half the cops/firemen/etc and a high school coach in Clackamas County. oops. There is one document in this case that goes back to 2002; an order for HGH written on the Canby Police letterhead.
Oh wait, did I mention what legitimate trade our supplier is in? C’mon, you know it’s… landscaping! (supply side, and it’s his dad’s business, but still)
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A federal inquiry into steroid abuse by a Canby officer and a cover-up by his chief has stretched to other law enforcement agencies, thanks to the cooperation of man who supplied the steroids:
Canby resident William J. Traverso, who has admitted to selling steroids to other officers in the Portland area.
Traverso, one of the central figures in the Canby steroid abuse inquiry that put former Officer Jason Deason in jail and spurred Chief Greg Kroeplin’s resignation, sought a lenient sentence Monday because he’s been helping the FBI.
The federal investigation already has prompted the resignation of four law enforcement officers who also have lost their police certification — Deason, Kroeplin, Washington County narcotics
dog handler Jared Gochenour and West Linn Officer Jess Riley.
Riley, who formerly worked as a Milwaukie officer, resigned from West Linn on April 9.
The federal inquiry also has led to the questioning of Portland Sgt. Charles Brown, who lives in Canby and whose late father was a retired Canby school superintendent. Portland police have been ordered not to talk about the federal investigation involving Brown.
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Also of note: “Traverso’s attorney John Henry Hingson III…”
Google some to make your own call on that, but he’s probably the 2nd most notorious lawyer in town, after Houze.
I have links to the other stories, but you can find most of what you want on oregonlive.com. I had to look up Traverson’s FB for fun; this is what he’s got posted on his profile: “Anybody want to meet an FBI Special Agent? I can arrange an introduction! Does anyone know how to
LOL, so there’s a new client for me, bonus!
write a book?”
Also another link for Roger
http://www.tufts.edu/talloiresnetwork/downloads/Self-AssessmentRubricfortheInstitutionalizationofService-LearninginHigherEducation.pdf
Officer Jason Deason
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This is gonna bug the heck outta me. I’ve come across that name before. I”m pretty sure I saw a picture of him while I was looking at TH body building pics. I’ll search.
thanks for info on roger, i couldnt place him. i know you are all probably getting annoyed with my questions, but of course i have another. i figured i would ask because of all the researching you have been doing it would be something you would remember, if not thanks anyway. do you know of any of the sanchez’ or estradas or elsy or others in this that were maybe had any connection to: Guerrero (vicente particularly) or chiapas (tuxtla particularly) or pueblo or oaxaca. i tried phone book listings for southern mexico and these states, but i got the columbian consulate, i am not good at this sort of thing!
I was wondering if someone could explain what I must have missed. I try to read the posts everyday and go back if I miss a day, but I can’t find this.
Everyone seems to be talking like the LS’s wife would have known about an affair with Terri after she called the cops after the confrontation. Why? She called them, they would go and talk or charge him with lunging at her while she held the baby. They wouldn’t have known anything about any affair and didn’t find out out the texts/mfh until later. Why would his wife know anything? He could have denied the whole thing or just said they had an argument after she said she couldn’t use him anymore.
I am trying to understand why people think this could have led to his wife leaving and taking the kids?
Also,is anyone else getting uncomfortable as the months slip away with professional LE tearing up in front of the press, but KH and DY still going on so firmly with Kyron being alive? What on earth could LE know that moves these grown, professional, seasoned men to tears in front of the cameras no less, that they wouldn’t have at least hinted to with the bio parents? God bless them all, but at this point it seems kind of sick. To me anyway.
@evie: very interesting about the steroids and LE use.
Just ran across this:
FBI employees arrested for lying about steroid use
Don Hooton – Wednesday, September 15, 2010
(Reuters) – Three FBI special agents and one FBI intelligence analyst were arrested on Wednesday on charges that they concealed their use of performance-enhancing drugs, including steroids and human growth hormones.
@evie: if you’re going to research more into the steroids thing, you could try this guy who educates kids about steroid use (think his own kid committed suicide while using ‘roids–I might be wrong). Good source for stuff all around country:
http://taylorhooton.org/_blog/Hoots_Corner/post/FBI_employees_arrested_for_lying_about_steroid_use/
Just thinking outloud here…Oy. The Alternative Theory site. That person has quite the personal feelings about Kaine. Saying that the Sherriff hinted at Kaine molesting Kyron during the latest PC…THAT is supposedly what he was talking about when he said that they know things that they wished they hadn’t found out. Talk about a lawsuit waiting to happen. I assumed that the sherriff was talking about drug cartels, children smuggling, etc…. Honestly, why on earth would LE continue to allow Kaine/Desiree to be in the public eye if they “knew” that Kaine molested Kyron. The person behind the AT site seems to have more anger & less facts.
I did a little reading on Spanish/Mexican surnames. I know someone else posted information about this as well. Essentially, the first surname is the father’s name and the second surname is the mothers.
Elsy Leonor Mejia-Sanchez a/k/a Elsy Mejia-Puerto
Jamie Mejia (older)
Ubaldo Sanchez-Mejia (younger)
Working backwards from the little boy:
UBALDO MEJIA-SANCHEZ
Ublado’s dad’s surname would be Sanchez, so a Sanchez Estrada, or a Sanchez ****anyname**** could be his father. (This means that Rudy and Jaime are candidates.)
Ubaldo’s mom’s (Elsy’s) surname would be Mejia (her father’s name).
JAMIE MEJIA
Since we know her mom is Elsy, we can assume that the father’s name has been dropped.
ELSY LEONOR MEJIA-SANCHEZ
Elsy (first name) Leonor (middle name) MEJIA (father’s name) SANCHEZ (husband’s name)
ELSY MEJIA-PUERTO
Elsy (first name) MEJIA (father’s name) PUERTO (MOTHERS NAME? OR EX-HUSBANDS NAME?) ?????
The last post should be UBALDO SANCHEZ-MEJIA. Having a hard time keeping names straight. SOOO SORRY, if anyone can change while in moderation, TIA, if not, sorry for the confusion.
I emphatically disagree that Terry took Kyron out of Skyline. If there were a scintilla of evidence he left with her she would have been charged with something.
B
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Thank You Blink! It’s about time someone with credibility made this statement so we can quite looking at the tree and start thrashing through the forest.
Let me just add my sentiments about her possible involvement stand. I am simply quashing the possibility that Kyron left Skyline June 4th with Terri. Did not happen.
B
For R.S. 09/18 11:03
“Speaking on the condition of anonymity, a close family friend who has since been interviewed by the FBI, has confirmed that Terri Horman is pointing her finger directly at Sanchez. She has also stated that she and Sanchez had an altercation after she attempted to end their relationship in May which ended in a 911 call and a visit from Clackamas County Sheriff Office in the presence of Sanchez’s wife and children.” – snip from Case Review and Bithday Wishes to the Frog Prince
Ten days later Elsy Sanchez disappears with two children and a federal warrant is issued for her arrest a month and a half later.
Some of us are just trying to figure out if Elsy could be related to Rudy & Associates. The little girl’s birthday was the day after Ky went missing.
Blink-
Why can’t you just be straight with people when they ask you what you do?
BECAUSE YOU ARE READING WHAT I DO.. SERIOUSLY?
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@evie … Your entire post is HUGE information.
**Canby steroid supplier’s cooperation with FBI spreads investigation to other law enforcement agencies, including Portland
Published: Monday, May 03, 2010, 9:20 PM**
This could be what LE is meaning when they say they’ve learned things they wish they hadn’t.
and we’ve been obsessed for nearly a week with illegal Mexican cartel.
wondering what’s up with all the DD PR campaigns lately. FB now has a support DD page and someone named “flymonkey” has BS’d their way onto scared monkeys claiming to be a friend of DD.
Re: Malty says:
September 18, 2010 at 12:14 pm
I would like to understand all these white double cab trucks
I drove around back at work to see what our landscaper drives
and there sat another of those trucks
why?
Have all these white trucks always been everywhere and I just noticed?
where i live, (not oregon) the city buys a fleet of similar trucks and then as they upgrade they sell them at discount. it would explain why crew cabs. crew cabs are way spendy.
I emphatically disagree that Terry took Kyron out of Skyline. If there were a scintilla of evidence he left with her she would have been charged with something.
B
So she didn’t take him physically, but do you believe she may have “set the stage” for him to be taken? There is, from what’s been released, common sense evidence that she was plotting or at least in on it.
Dr. Appt scenario
Weird emails to bio mom
Emails next day trying to clear herself
Discrepancy in timeline
Pic of kyron and all weirdness that surrounding that
15 min at the gym
“Sanchez’s wife and children.” – snip of a snip from Case Review and Birthday Wishes to the Frog Prince.
Rudy has more than one child.
pdx girl 09/18 @7:28pm
“Both Jason and his brother James Grant have had numerous legal entanglements (editor’s note: say it just like Chief Margie with the flat “a”) and our attempts to substantiate Jason’s claims about court appointed child advocacy certifications have yet to be confirmed. However, with his Uncle John Kerr, Jason Wishert is heavily involved in the Friends of Pimpollo Charity which sponsors various children issues and an orphanage in Mexico
” – snip Case Review and Birthday Wishes to the Frog Prince
I have big time reservations about this guy. He went on the offensive right off the bat. Thought he could control his media image. He tried to imply that his seemingly sexually dysfunctional relationship with DDS was due to her “decision” about men. (Not that anyone asked.)
He does not seem to transparent about his child advocacy, his dad is in prison for porn and he is involved with his uncle’s charity for an orphanage in Mexico. I know we are supposed to give people the benefit of the doubt, but sometimes you have to READ the writing on the wall, IMHO. We know his dad is a pervert and I am curious as to what he and his brother’s legal entanglements are.
From where I sit today, at five feet (not even close to 30,000), I think we work backwards from this guy to DDS to Terry, or we go from Terry to Rudy to Rudy & Associates.
enumclawrose says:
September 18, 2010 at 11:59 pm
For R.S. 09/18 11:03
“Speaking on the condition of anonymity, a close family friend who has since been interviewed by the FBI, has confirmed that Terri Horman is pointing her finger directly at Sanchez. She has also stated that she and Sanchez had an altercation after she attempted to end their relationship in May which ended in a 911 call and a visit from Clackamas County Sheriff Office in the presence of Sanchez’s wife and children.” – snip from Case Review and Bithday Wishes to the Frog Prince
Ten days later Elsy Sanchez disappears with two children and a federal warrant is issued for her arrest a month and a half later.
Some of us are just trying to figure out if Elsy could be related to Rudy & Associates. The little girl’s birthday was the day after Ky went missing.
Thank you for this. But I have seen many speak as if Terri was there in front of wife. There have been many posts like that. Only the police were there in front of the family and they wouldn’t have known anything at that time about a relationship other than the ‘work’ one that Terri told them and the confrontation.
I do agree that the info about a possible relationship between the mother and children that are missing and the LS being husband and wife interesting. Would be nice to be able to know for sure.
I just don’t see how or why the wife would have found out anything from the police visit. Unless LS or someone else told her. Can’t see him doing that. Can’t see him being dumb enough to talk about the MFH to wife either.
Thank you though.
Here’s something that would cause me to have “concerns”, as Staton said people will have after the debriefing at the end of Ky’s case:
Offcr. Jess Riley resigned from West Linn PD , in conjunction with the FBI investigation into steroid use that started with Canby PD and was enlarged. So, here’s what West Linn’s Capt. Ron Schwartz said:
“…local officials don’t plan to conduct a follow-up investigation and do not suspect other officers of similar drug abuse.”
REALLY?? BTW, Offcr. Riley was said to have been hired by West Linn PD in July 2008. And to have previously worked for 12 years for Milwaukie Police Department. (Where do I know Milwaukie from? Oh–not related; just the principal address for RS Landscape Maintenance, on S. Renada St., Milwaukie)
link: http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=127308600041159800
Sigh.
Simple solution. Mandatory Roid Test.
B
Blink – thanks for all of your insight into this case. I am a local resident who has been following this case from the very beginning. I have experienced the rollercoaster of emotions through every twist and turn. And now, we’re left with a lot of unanswered questions and Kyron is still missing.
My daughter pulled out a bag of toys that her grandmother sent her last week. It was a bunch of animal figurines and I didn’t pay much attention to them. But after my kids went to bed, I started my usual task of cleaning up the scattered toys all over my floor. And when I saw a toy figurine of a red eyed tree frog, my stomach dropped. I honestly felt like I had been punched in the stomach.
As I mentioned, I have followed this case from the beginning but I had no idea what an deeply it affected me until that moment.
I love reading your thoughts and appreciate all of the insight that you give. But I have one question, which I know you have alluded to before. Do you believe that Kyron is still alive?
Thank you for your kind words-
Sadly, I do not believe Kyron is alive. I would move Heaven and Earth to be wrong.
B
There are so many posts of relations to RS that I can’t keep up. I would just like to point out that in searching my own name I come up with the X wife of a man I lived with for 7 months. His name does not come up at all. His X wife never lived here. I bring this up because these sites are not completely valid although they might provide a link but in my case, think about the strech of imagination. You may find a name associated with an address but then you need to establish whether that person really lived there or is just associated because their name is related to someone who was associated with that address at some point. It’s tricky and at this point I cannot give any validity to the free websites such as zaba or people finder.
So Blink, are you working on establishing concrete links to the “Sanchez Associates?” The comminaltiy of “Sanchez and Estrada” alone is enough to blow one’s mind away. The fact that you allow postings that connect these names leads me to believe there is some connection. Will you post an article in the future connecting them?
@20.R.S. says:
“Also,is anyone else getting uncomfortable as the months slip away with professional LE tearing up in front of the press, but KH and DY still going on so firmly with Kyron being alive? What on earth could LE know that moves these grown, professional, seasoned men to tears in front of the cameras no less, that they wouldn’t have at least hinted to with the bio parents? God bless them all, but at this point it seems kind of sick. To me anyway:”
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Chances are slim to nil the child is alive. Intellectually KH and DY are excruciatingly aware of this. Emotionally, since he hasn’t been recovered they choose to believe otherwise. I wonder what TH believes or if she has the capacity to care.
27.enumclawrose says:
September 18, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Ten days later Elsy Sanchez disappears with two children and a federal warrant is issued for her arrest a month and a half later.
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This still really bothers me. I’m sure it’s connected to the KY case.
Thank you for you explanation of Spanish/Mexican surnames and how it relates to Elsy and the Sanchezs. It helps.
Terri claims that she last saw Kyron walking to his classroom at 8:45. The final bell rang at 8:45 signifying that all children should be in their classrooms. At that time, the children were put into groups, paired with a chaperon, and they started their tour of the science fair.
Tanner and Tyler both claim to have seen Kyron in the hallway without Terri. Therefore, they saw Kyron sometime after the 8:45 bell had rung – with his chaperon.
In emails to friends Terri says that she was told that Kyron had been seen with a male chaperon and two girls, but, the school told her there were no men on the chaperon list.
There was a lack of security at the school that day, and the scene inside was described as chaotic. As guests were not required to sign in, anyone could have easily entered the school and gone to Kyron’s classroom. In all the confusion, this person could have claimed to be a chaperon and the teacher took his word for it. Remember, this is the same teacher who stated he was probably in the bathroom, then claimed she assumed he had left for a doc appt. at 1. He wouldn’t have been gone at 10 to be at a doc appt. 3 hours later. And,if it would have taken three hours to get to the doc, he would never have made it back before the end of school – ie, Terri would have told him to bring his bookbag and jacket.
It would have been very hard for Terri to creep back in after Kyron was with his group and lure him away with no one noticing.
I believe that the last person to see Kyron was the chaperon – whoever that may have been.
>I emphatically disagree that Terry took Kyron out of Skyline. If >there were a scintilla of evidence he left with her she would have >been charged with something.
>B
Indeed, if there were any EVIDENCE as to who took Kyron from school, the case would be solved. Absence such evidence, an examination of who could’ve taken him out may point ONLY to Terry. Who elso could’ve gotten Kyron out of school, or more likely got him to leave of his free will and w/o any disturbance?? not the landscaper or the landscaper’s buddy.
I respectfully disagree.
There is evidence of Kyron’s suspected departure from the school, it just has not been shared publicly.
Pay specific attention to Capt Gates from the Aug 12 press conf-
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While Kyron was in the school building, no one could’ve touched him. Once he was in the parking lot and unaccounted for, he was vulnerable to whatever mischief intended him. I want to focus on who could’ve gotten him out, or more likely instructed him to leave and met him outback. Only Terry, not RS, AS or other could’ve done that . These other characters could come into the plot once KH was out.
I believe it is the middle name in a Mexican’s name that is the mothers & the last name is the fathers thus you can have a name such as Paulino Mendosa Pena. At least that is what we were told by our help~
Oh, yeah, here’s the coach for the girls basketball team–he was one of the guys selling steroids to Offcr. Deason:
“An informant had no difficulty identifying Canby Officer Jason Deason. He came in uniform and rode his police motorcycle to pick up the drugs.
What’s more, the seller — Brian Jackson, then a strength and conditioning coach for the much-heralded Oregon City High School girls basketball team — told the informant he didn’t worry about getting caught by the police because he was selling to the police.”
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Acc. to the FBI, their investigation is continuing: “”We’re looking at the steroid distribution network” Boyer said, “and who else might be involved.” [FBI Supervisory Special Agent Joseph J. Boyer ]
this is from a google cached document, referencing a Feb 25, 2010 Oregonian article, titled: Steroids Claim The Careers Of Two Oregon
Police Officers
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One of the “concerning” things is that these cops were protecting the dealers they bought from. What if these dealers were also into other illegal activities??? There’s where a connection to Ky could come from. It’s enough to make a grown man cry. (You can use that line, Blink, should you wish to in the future!)
Plus they sometimes grossely take advantage of using one anothers names because so many of their names so closely resemble one anothers
Blink- what time do you get up in the morning? What is your typical breakfast? And one last thing – do you wear brown or black mascara? And for goodness sakes what in the heck do you do all day ’cause juggling multiple cases and a hugely popular nationally-recognized true crime blog can’t be that hard. LOL
ROTFL
ROTFL
Thanks for that lily.
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sorry for the 3 postings LOL, but also people sometimes get their names confused because of the simularities sometimes placing the middle name last etc. There was quite a mixup at the jail when we tried to find out (for our safety & our customers )why one of our workers was in jail~ he had aliasis plus they had put his middle name last and it was very hard to research because of that~
This is all so very disheartening … what started out as a missing/endangered child from a schoolyard with one, possibly 2 or three suspects has evolved to illegal organized crime syndicate dealing in drugs/sex trafficking and now extends to include the very people who we entrusted the investigation of the original crime of missing endangered child.
I have said in previous posts that we may never know the full extent of this investigation unless the roll-up is made public. Well, according to what’s being posted tonite, the roll-up is happening.
BECAUSE YOU ARE READING WHAT I DO.. SERIOUSLY?
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Oh heavens! Thanks for the laugh, Blink, I needed it tonight.
So many slinkys and so little time.
Thank You.
I am currently the new product tester for the lateral slinky.
Not going so well.
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