Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Cheney Mason Predicted Casey’s Conviction AFTER Caylee Was Recovered
– J.Cheney Mason, counsel for Casey Anthony
Well now, there you have it. Words from J. Cheney Mason, co-counsel of the defense team via THE BAEZ LAW FIRM. Was he co-counsel when he said it? No. All the more reason to wonder why he would sign on to this case. Yet bet Ms. Simms is happy she did not have a TV when these aired.
Cheney’s prediction of Casey’s trial outcome comments were made the day after Caylee’s remains were located, and OCSO was still onscene, December 12, 2008.
Casey Anthony’s parents were still guests of the THE RITZ CARLTON thanks to ABC, and their Hopespring Drive home was being turned upside down by OCSO ater finding Caylee’s Winnie the Pooh blanket her grandmother conveniently forgot to mention was missing from her room.
“Hopespring” - now there is the boss of all oxymorons in this case.
Tuesday, in the news-less press conference, Mr. Mason forgot his former comments as an “analyst” for local 6 as invited by reporterTony Pipitone.
WFTV Reporter Kathi Belich asked Mason if he recalled being a commentator on the case and concluding that Casey would be convicted.
His Response In pertinent part:
“… I Don’t recall making any such statement..”
O No? We DO.
AFTER Caylee Anthony’s remains were recovered
…” All that talking and the press interviews.. the parents going on this show and that show, the lawyer (Baez) going on different shows established they have no credibility whatsoever..”
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Thanks, Blink. I’m getting worried about myself. lol
Well, I don’t remember if I heard Lee’s “Is this like the last time” or that I’ve just heard people talk abou it BUT I did see that surveillance hotel/motel video of Casey in the paking lot. Yessiree, Bobcat, I saw it! Maybe Lee’s statement & this video are sitting in the same place (LE).
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/09/casey-anthonys-murder-trial-battle-of.html
this is interesting to say the least!
Blink you stated:
I think right now, the only thing I can say as an absolute certainty, is that Caylee was not wearing those shorts when she was placed in the swamp.
B
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That is saying a whole lot Blink. Thank you.
Do you think we will be surprised by what the defense lab finds or doesn’t find on the shorts and C. Bag?
No. I think they would not be publicly testing ( in open court) if they were not attempting to lay groundwork for themselves.
I have to be honest, I spit out the Sanka when Baez said he had not deposed Keith Williams-
Considering he called him within an hour of the posting of a piece about him, and spent the next day with him at Suburban, he changed his story, oye vey.
What a Yutz.
B
No problem Ruby Rose- I agree that comment is very strange. Why did Casey say that? Why do they want to test the shorts and the bag? Is it only because Kronk and his friends and others may have touched these items? Are they looking for more people to Kronk? Or are there more reasons we are not privy to?
Thank you PigletinCT and Leslee S. for your recollections on the comment by Lee. I appreciate your going to look for it Piglet. I really hope you have better luck than I have so far.
LesleeS. Wow- See what I mean about rumors- I thought that video was just made up- but you say you saw it! Unbelievable. Maybe LE did take back some other things besides this hotel clip.
You have peaked my curiosity- would you mind telling us, if you remember, what was Casey’s demeanor/behavior in the video clip you saw? Was she crying? Was she standing near the trunk? Did the clip report what the time was said to be and the date? TIA
If you are absolutely certain of the issue with the shorts, then so is the SA’s office and of course no doubt the defense. I suppose the valuable shorts that now after over a year and half the defense wants to test for “touch DNA” fits perfectly the description Caylee’s grandfather gave of what she was wearing the last he said “he saw them” on June 16, 2008 (which is a lie) that the SA is also aware of. SA keeps saying June 15, 2008 at the hearings.
I guess at today’s status hearing it looked like the death penalty qualified lawyer wasn’t having fun (in reference to Amy deposition scheduling). What’s a guy to do? Wasn’t that a reason he gave for not retiring and joining the defense team. I keep reading how he has/d a wonderful reputation and is suppose to be an ace….but I have yet to see it. He should have retired while the going was good, on a high note. Now he’ll be remembered as a turd and the one that pretty much bullied, intimidated, and revictimized Amy. Amy who’s only fault was to dispense friendship to that thing. Her life was pretty much put on hold for about 2 years and now she has a job (unlike that thing that was a professional moocher) and this lawyer wants her to ask for time off when they could’ve deposed her a LONG time ago when she was close and readily available. I don’t know how these people can sleep at night.
I hope Judge Perry stays true to his character and doesn’t move the trial date so that all the other victims of the inmate and her family can get their lives back.
Oh, I think I read that the Judge found a lab in PA to do the “touch DNA” and that it was agreeable to both sides. I thought there weren’t any that didn’t have some sort of LE affiliation in the U.S. (sarcasm)?
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY!!
OutofOrder, Hello, IRT the shorts- Blink and others also hypothesized early on, that the shorts /and/or shirt could have been stuffed in the bag with Caylee as an after thought- shortly before disposal.
The items may not have been put there afterward- but just weren’t worn by Caylee-
Although it could be just as you wrote, that they were placed later to point to someone other than Casey.
Remember Ricardo did see Casey coming from the garage- and she told him she was doing some laundry… I don’t remember the date of that encounter right now…. Anyway, Could she have been there to retrieve Caylee’s sleep shirt and some other clothing items that were kept at Ricardo’s for Caylee? Just thinking aloud of course- all speculation, on my part.
Mom3.0:
I’m almost positive that it was shown on Nancy Grace (not Greta). I’m thinking Leonard P. was on that evening. Casey was at the back of the car & looked to be talking on the phone. I went back long ago to look for that transcript & found no discussion of that tape on any of them.
Mom3.0:
I posted some info on the hotel surveillance video but it seems to have been removed.
Uh…don’t know what happened.
Good grief, it was not there a second ago!
I’m spooked & outa here! lol
Mom3 – I never said the shorts were placed there later as to point to someone else. You have the posts confused?
You say in your post here that “Blink hypothesized” – so we really don’t know for a fact that the shorts weren’t being worn by Caylee at the time she was dumped in the swamp? If it is being stated as fact, what has been the determining factor in arriving at this conclusion, or are there any true facts that prove she wasn’t wearing the shorts?
And again I ask, what was Casey’s purpose of including the shorts, even “as an afterthought”, if Caylee wasn’t wearing them? An “afterthought” still needs a reason, so what did Casey think she was accomplishing IF she did toss in the shorts?
I dont think Mom 3.o said that, I did, and I stand behind it.
It is forensically impossible for Caylee to have been wearing those shorts when she was placed there if you study the grid where her remains were found and the ME and Anthropological reports.
B
Oh God, I feel sick!!! This whole scenario doesn’t bear thinking about. How many of the Anthony’s are actively involved with trying to cover up for monstermum? Is it all of them?
Thank you Blink for your response to OutofOrder.
-OutofOrder Hi Blink is right- By the way I went to bed last night knowing you were gonna call me on my choice of wording “hypothesized” Hey maybe I do have some psychic abilities.-
Ruby Rose, Hi I found the quote and a link- most of the links like at wftv to the audio of the RDick interview was broke or edited- this one is not-
He talks about it near the end.
“they haven’t even found the clothes she was wearing”
http://wdbo.com/Player/100405541/
LesleeS– I’m kinda spooked too. I guess Blink has been asked not to post comments regarding the specifics of that video- (Loud sigh) Will we be able to see that at trial I wonder? If not- Could you include it in the series of articles that I am hoping you will write after the trial Blink?
Blink thanks for answering me regarding your thoughts on the testing of the shorts and bag- I must admit I had forgotten exactly who Keith Williams was/is- imagine my surprise when I typed it into google and up popped YOUR article- LOL I can certainly understand your feelings and I am happy to know you didn’t choke on your Sanka-
Here’s the link-
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/15/casey-anthony-case-bombshell-development-cindy-anthony-saw-bag-found-at-scene-in-august/
I wonder why he hasn’t disposed him yet considering everything…. Maybe he just put EVERYONE off to the last minute—
Did you see the clip of Baez and Mason and Dorothy Clay Sims at yesterday’s DR. G depo? Baez certainly doesn’t seem to be his chipper smirking, overconfident self… Could it be that Dorothy Clay Sims didn’t do as well as he hoped in laying Dr. G’s testimony to waste? Who knows maybe he has finally perfected the art of his pokerface?
http://www.wftv.com/news/25193388/detail.html
BTW- At the risk of sounding stupid, I still don’t understand one part of your comment-
Who changed their story KW or Baez?
KW.
However, it changed back after he was contacted and interviewed at the site by Yuri Melich and John Allen.
B
From my previous 2 posts –
And again I ask, what was Casey’s purpose of including the shorts, even “as an afterthought”, if Caylee wasn’t wearing them? An “afterthought” still needs a reason, so what did Casey think she was accomplishing IF she did toss in the shorts?
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To frame someone else they are tied to.
B
I don’t understand why they are not doing the touch DNA testing on the duct tape. Is it because they are afraid of what they may find.
To frame someone else they are tied to.
B
Blink – I’m assuming you are referring to the shorts themselves when you say “tied to”, – as in Ricardo? I’m only guessing it would be him because the shirt is seen at his place, not sure the shorts ever were, but…..
sorry, that leads to the next question for me. So if Casey is attempting to frame a specific person such as Ricardo, why didn’t she in the beginning, or hasn’t she since, flat-out named that person rather than this ridiculous nanny Z she made up?
I’m not disputing that she returned to drop the shorts at the dump site, it does make sense for several reasons, but did she drop them 20 ft. away because of the time span she waited in between dumping Caylee there — and then the shorts — that the swamp had again filled with so much water it made it impassable for her to drop them closer to Caylee, or what? If we go by the time line that Mom3 suggested, when Casey told Ricardo that she was “doing laundry”, then it wouldn’t have been very long after she had dropped Caylee there, right? I hope all of this makes sense, it does to me. lol
Outoforder my guess they were placed their to frame Jessie G. Remember he stated that she dropped by his house to take a shower which made him uncomfortable. After his Dad learned of this he took Jessie to the police to let them know about Casey’s visit. She makes sure that she states in a jail house video that she does not trust Jessie. She was in his bath room make sense now anyways that’s what I think. And if you remember that Cindy makes a statement to the FBI I think that she thinks that Zanny is really whom ever Casey has babysitting Caylee at the time like Jessie, or some of her other friends.
Rob Dick interview:
http://wdbo.com/Player/100405541/
Blink,
I would like to know if you would comment on the smell of the
car and George & Cindy’s clothes collecting the odor from the car.
We are told by Cindy that George was starting a new job and she sent
him off to work, and she then continued to clean and collect items
from the car. She also states that she had a little lunch then returned to work herself. Now my question being. Did George keep
the same clothes on and maybe go to work and change into a uniform
there. Did Cindy return to work in the same clothes that she had on
in the morning or did she change as well. Would the smell have
attached to there clothing hair, or skin?
In the short amount of time George drove the car, no, I think with a few minutes of fresh air he would have been fine. Think about it from an ME point of view. They are working with cadavers of all stages in close proximity all day/night.
That said, in a closed enviornment, I am aware of structures/vehicles/containers that have absolutely “fused” porous surfaces with decomp smell. I studied decomp extensively a few months back, specifically some work at The Body Farm. They knew something dead was in that car. They knew.
B
OutofOrder-Hi- Not my time line- I only brought up the “suggestion” to illustrate that Casey may have had other places/people that held Caylee’s clothes. Ricardo’s /Amy’s/JP’s was one place she had frequented/spent the night with Caylee. Are we sure it was the only place? Her other friend brought back Caylee’s swim stuff from his parents house-(sorry cabn’t remember his name right now- She did her laundry at Tony’s too- Caylee was over there at least once- I don’t know EXACTLY who she was trying to frame- Nor am I 100% she was actively framing anyone- She may have had the shirt and shorts ect still in the trunk of her car – especially if they came from Ricardo’s- because IME in a break-up- a FINAL breakup you grab all of your cr#p and your x partner hands back some more.. Who knows, maybe Ricardo did this and the items included were toys and clothes and blankets of Caylee’s. ALL speculation…
IRT your comment of “So if Casey is attempting to frame a specific person such as Ricardo, why didn’t she in the beginning, or hasn’t she since, flat-out named that person rather than this ridiculous nanny Z she made up”…
Casey from the beginning was setting up other people to take the fall for her- (perhaps knowingly,perhaps not) and her family and the defense have continued on in this endeavor since-
Casey may have in the beginning said “Zenaida-F- Gonzalez”, but we know THAT person she supposedly knew for 2-4 years,from Jefferey MICHAEL Hopkins doesn’t exist- but the lady at Sawgrass does- We know that almost every place she took LE that day was somehow related to one of her friends/ past boyfriends.
Casey told her family in the jail house visits who she could trust and not trust IRT the kidnapping of her daughter. She “in her own way” was pointing a finger of blame at each and every one of them in some sense-( and her family and her defense too) because her LIE of the nanny included bits and pieces of truth from alot of her girl friends/ boy friends lives.Her family had PI’s gathering info on these people-
Puerto Rico- New York ties- Jacksonville ect. on and on.
So whether she at first was simply lying and as a side effect, she inadvertently placed a finger of blame at her friends, or whether she actively began and continued or her family continues- she has attempted to place the blame elsewhere-
Where we can agree OutofOrder,is she may not have been trying to frame a specific person, but she and her family has attempted,at the very least, to cast a shadow of doubt on many many people. Including a member of her own family, and as Terry said most definitely Jesse.
Now, as I wrote, it is only one theory that Casey may have been trying to frame someone else with the addition of the shorts ect. – There are other theories too, I guess we can subscribe to whichever theory we are most comfortable with- if any- Cause I know for dang sure Blink nor anyone else can offer up proof to back up a theory- even if they have the proof, they shouldn’t. Perhaps we will find out at trial.
Hope this better describes my stance- Thanks for “listening”
Yikes! sorry for the length-
Terry – Blink thinks that the shorts were tied to someone else…..how was Jesse tied to those particular shorts of Caylee’s? I do remember that Casey showered at Jesse’s, but again, the act of her showering at Jesse’s doesn’t tie him to the shorts.
FWIW, I also disagree with my own answer of Ricardo, because the shorts had never been seen there either as far as we know.
For all anyone knows, Casey dropped them by accident on her way out of the woods after dumping Caylee. In the bigger picture, it’s a small fish in a large pond which equals anybody’s guess; like most things in this case. None of it changes the fact that Casey murdered Caylee.
That girl did not drop a thread by accident, I assure you.
B
That girl did not drop a thread by accident, I assure you.
B
Well Blink, then who were they “tied to”, as you say? The only photo those shorts have appeared in were with Casey herself, playing with Caylee. To imply that they “are tied to someone” is based on ____ what, exactly?
Hi OutofOrder & Mom3.0 ,
Thanks for commenting back and I do agree that Casey and the Anthony Clan were trying really hard to lay down many spider webs of untruths in hopes of catching as many flies with their many lies and spread doubts about the Monster Mom Jr. innocence.
My theory one of many that I have had. Casey hated Jesse for loving Caylee and his devotion to the child that he loved as his own. We know from the hate that she has for Monster Mom Original that anyone who loved Caylee more than Princess Poopie Pants herself were targets.
For all we know maybe the shorts were bought by Jesse its just a guess I have not read this or watched it on any video the shorts could be tied to someone in many different ways.
One of the many reason I come to this page every day is for all of the thought and knowledge that most of the comment’s and the respect that Blink and her followers have for each other.
Many thanks to Blink and everyone but most of all the Justice we all want for Our sweet little sunshine Caylee.
I agree with you Terry – SHe definitely had it in for Jesse. The whole turning Jesse’s Birthday card message to Caylee, into something tainted was my first real glimpse into the mind of Casey and her defense.
“…I studied decomp extensively a few months back, specifically some work at The Body Farm.”…B
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I never heard of The Body Farm until I became interested in this case. For that matter, I never conceived an idea that a such a place might exist and have been fasenated ever since learning of it. (Strange, since I’ve read a few of the Scarpetta novels. I missed The Body Farm.)
I have so many questions, but will refrain, except for one (of a technical nature). Are all the bodies donated unembalmed?
Yes, donated, requsitioned or “willed”, and none are embalmed.
Thanks for refraining, I am not open to discussion in this format.
B
I did some research on The Body Farm and know that most of the willed deceased were members of LE, military & medical professionals who understood the importance of its research to forensic science.
Dispite the clumsy wording of my question; you answered it; unembalmed. That takes planning, a certain amount of spiritual courage and the co-operation of a lot of families. We are blessed in so many hidden ways by the work, concern & protection of the individuals in these professions.
Yes, we are, and in particular the work at this facility/educational resource.
I HATED It. I am not a clinitian as I learned quickly and like a dork against my colleagues able to separate fully, I had given my study objects names immediately, which lost me a few points but made me feel better, lol.
Let me say this, I do not care what kind of smoke and mirrors defense in Casey’s case is offered, Dr. Haskell and The Body Farm sniffer/forensic results is what will irrefutably convict her. This work is going to be responsible for groundbreaking convictions of otherwise “lucky” criminals.
For me, it changed my thoughts about the profile of Morgan’s murderer, and convinced me we have a serial situation BEFORE the DNA link to sketch was announced, as an example.
B
B
Blink – I’m getting off track here but I am very curious about the outcome of the zenaida traffic stop on May 24th, 2008 (Annie Downing received a ticket on this day as well). Zenida was stopped for failing to yeild and she gave her name but was ticketed for failure to show ID. This esclated into a bench warrent as of 1/13/2009. How did this play out and did they ever find that Zenida? The timeline of events for that zenida, Annie and KC are suspect.
Below is your article . . .
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/01/16/zenaida-gonzalez-annie-leigh-downing%E2%80%99s-excellent-adventure-zannie-and-annie-go-to-traffic-court/
blink if indeed the shorts were tossed later makes much sense and affirms that others could be involved is a sorry azz attempt to cover up the whold damn thing…we know there was cvoer up and I trust in time we will know exactly who those persons were
That girl did not drop a thread by accident, I assure you.
B
Blink,
Do you really believe KC was smart enough to do nothing “by accident”? She comes across rather stupid as do George and Lee. Cindy is the only member of the Anthony family that seems to have any intelligence but, once the story broke, even Cindy couldn’t have snuck into the woods to plant the shorts, not with all the media scrutiny through July, August, even September. And, if they were tossed in the woods AFTER KC was indicted, wouldn’t the deterioration be forensically different from the blanket or shirt?
I do not understand why anyone thinks she is stupid.
She has managed to conceal the death of her toddler, string her entire family and friend base along for years as to her activities, steal, have a man and his family believe that Caylee may be his child although the conception date is off by months, and murder and dispose of her baby to the extent that her entire family is proclaiming her innocense AND get paid more than she could ever actually earn for the privilege.
That girl is a lazy cuss, yes. She is anything but stupid.
In fact, the defense is counting on making her appear that way. Otherwise they have a ruthless and remorseless baby killer on their hands.
B
Annals
Hi there!
I had never heard of the body farm before! interesting isnt it!! I cant imagine donating my body to science that way but hey its because of those donations that we are able to learn more.
Blink
waving at ya!! hola amiga!! I have been busy and a lil unda the weather!! take care
waving bye bye
Wink from blink
B
What do most people here feel about Cindy’s knowing or not knowing that Casey did/did not have a job?
It’s an old topic and I have always thought that she certainly knew Casey was not helping out financially at all. Cindy says in her July 3rd letter that she has paid for everything having to do with rearing Caylee.
George definitely found out that Casey was not working at Sports Authority and told Cindy, but she told George to buzz off and she would take care of it. So I thought Cindy probably knew that Casey was no longer working at Kodak at Universal because she, Cindy, paid all Casey’s expenses, as well as Caylee’s…and then to top it off Cindy would have known Casey wasn’t working from all the Casey thievery going on and no Casey income taz preparation, and no tax refund, etc..
I have kind of done a turn around on the subject, though, because of Cindy telling her mom, Shirley, that Casey spent more than she made. A statement which was certainly true, but was Cindy spinning a no-job into a job which didn’t pay Casey enough for her lifestyle so that Shirley and her sister wouldn’t know Cindy was being taken?
Also Cindy asked Casey in a text whether Casey’s job would be affected
by an Universal merger Cindy had read about in the papers. This was asked as a sort of Cindy afterthought in a text while Cindy was attempting to see the missing Caylee — supposedly with MOTY on the Tampa hospital tour with Zanny!
When Cindy is being questioned by LE, after Casey was arrested, she seemed to cling to Casey having a job and being away at the Hard Rock on a business venture. When LE told her that everything was a lie about Casey being out of Orlando, Cindy said she knew that and then added, “Still…” almost as if if any one thing Casey told her was true, then Casey’s whole tale, whole job, could be true.
I have really gone under the impression that Cindy knew all along that Casey had no job, but I’ve lately been about changing my mind.
And if she did think Casey had a job, and directed “events” at Universal, whom did Cindy and George think was caring for Caylee when Casey took her to the sitter’s on the way to work? I just can’t think Cindy was that dumb. More like “Don’t anyone make waves around Casey!”
I just go’round and ’round on this topic. And then my brain bleeds!
Like Annals, I have many questions for Blink concerning her knowledge gained at the Body Farm, but I will refrain from asking them, as I understand the need to remain quiet.
I hope you will share some of your insights with us, Blink, when you can. I fully understand your feelings about HATING it, but at the same time being intellectually fascinated by the science, and your gratitude to those who donated, and your need to “name” the subjects.
When I was in school, we took a class trip to the Museum, to study an exhibit on the human body. The exhibit included a real life display case of The miracle of pregnancy. A huge ‘tank’ contained every stage of a pregnancy -from a womb of a pregnant lady at some weeks all the way through, the entire pregnancy- concluding with a full term baby.
The display was not fake, it contained actual bodies, actual fetus’s and actual babies- I can still see the last baby and how fine the hair was.
I have never forgot what I learned that day, it was an invaluable experience. I marveled at the science of it all.
Yet, at the time and still, even now, so many years later, I am haunted by it too. I still think about those women and babies.
I thank the people who so graciously gave their bodies, and their children to ‘science’ and the world. But from time to time, I still wonder about the story of their lives and deaths. I still say a quiet prayer for each to RIP followed by another thank you to those who had the courage and selflessness to sign the back of their licenses, to help us all learn more, and in turn make the world a better place for our children.
Again Blink, I hope after all is said and done, I hope you will share your knowledge with us.
Mom3.0 – I would like to second your remarks to Blink. I have read a fair bit regarding the Body Farm and whilst at first tended to ‘pull a face’ at the thought of the activities carried out there, I am now in awe of the dedicated staff and full of admiration for the public whom have made the Farm possible. Hopefully Caylee will at last get Justice with help from this amazing place.
Blink, I don’t know if it is appropriate (probably not), how does one go about donating to the Body Farm? I am leaving my tired ole body to science, but I guess that means . . . you know, I don’t know what it means. Who is “science”? (me hopes not junk science, or maybe with my body . . .)
Sister. You are the kindest and most soul-plumping lady I know. I am proud of our friendship, albeit as unworthy as I am in comparison to your altruism and spirituality. Let’s connect privately, and I will facilitate the inquiry.
B
Blink said:
That girl is a lazy cuss, yes. She is anything but stupid.
In fact, the defense is counting on making her appear that way. Otherwise they have a ruthless and remorseless baby killer on their hands
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Thanks, Blink. I never considered that the defense WANTS KC to look stupid. It might be their only successful maneuver to date and she is obviously cunning and manipulative which is a type of “smarts”. Guess what I meant is that KC doesn’t come across as an intellectual. I just can’t think like she does so her behaviors over the years are way beyond my comprehension.
And you are so spot on that the defense has a remorseless and ruthless child killer on their hands.
MsEnscene.
Hello, I’ll give you my thoughts FWIW on whether or not Cindy and the rest of The Anthony’s knew Casey did not have a job…
I think George knew WITHOUT A DOUBT that Casey was not working. I think he knew before S.A. and certainly afterward.
George was ALL FOR confronting Casey about this and infact DID but was he was held to task for it and told by Cindy to BACK OFF-
So he did and after that he knew his place in the family scheme of things.
Casey at this time, more than likely gave Cindy a huge sob story about how George is out to get her and how he never was her loving dad- but always a suspicious cop – Cindy was lulled back to sleep by Casey- afterall, Cindy needed the love and support of her daughter and best friend at this time- because She had finally put an end GEORGE’S lying ways and filed for a divorce… makes you wonder if Casey was whispering things into her mamma’s ear to make sure that Cindy’s wrath was turned away from her and toward George-
How could Cindy question the lies of Casey if she was busy with work, and the new baby and the divorce? I think Casey was an ace at dividing and conquering- meaning she was very good at turning Cindy against George and vice versa when it suited her purpose- she I’m sure, even threw Lee into the mix when able.
Then you bring in Lee, Casey worked with Lee for a short period of time- obviously during that time she was not at Universal-
I think Casey was very skilled at always keeping her mom guessing- she set up fake emails- fake time sheets- fake badges- Casey had a bag with the name Chris on it- ect ect.
In other words, Cindy probably started questioning whether or not she was working, but would always not “push the issue” Why should she?
Casey did afterall get them into Universal free around Halloween- Casey pacified Cindy just enough to keep her off her back- when Cindy would begin to question- Casey always answered her with- a new email- a new schedule- a new promotion at the park ect- There were probably times when Casey admitted she wasn’t working at Universal- during down times ect-
If Cindy would question her outright- which I don’t think ever happened until the no clothes party- I believe Casey would have no problem getting in Cindy’s face and Casey then would throw a guilt trip on Cindy going overboard in her indignation that Cindy, her best friend, her #1 mamma’s had the audacity to question her.
Casey’s weird on again off again work schedule as a seasonal employee allowed her to dupe Cindy because Cindy wanted and needed to be duped it made it easier to keep believing the lie- the fact that the company changed hands, and the confusion that ensued played into Casey’s charade- the fact that Cindy was busy working, made it easier for Casey to pull the wool over Cindy’s eyes too- the fact that Cindy wouldn’t allow others to question her- made it easier too.All these things allowed Cindy to go on believing the lie- but still gave her enough room to doubt- when she wanted to-
IMO Cindy was much like the wife who is told her husband is cheating- She believes everyone else is lying- He says don’t believe them- your crazy if you think I would do anything to hurt YOU- your my one and only- even though she has seen the lipstick collar, the phone bill- ect she still believes her husband- because she wants to…
Casey’s lie about work was ONLY believed by Cindy-everyone else knew it couldn’t be true- and Cindy was very happy to go on believing the lie- in fact- she IMO was the only one that mattered, by Cindy’s standards, because it was Cindy that was bringing home the bacon, it was Cindy who she was stealing from, it was Cindy who chose to be the victim- and it was Cindy who was sure to point out the truth to Casey’s friend’s and lovers when it suited HER.
It only became a problem, IMO because Casey in late May early June began wanted MORE time away- not just away from her daughter, which was okay- up to a point, (as long as she was grateful to Cindy) but also wanting time away from Cindy- not living by the unspoken contract they had between themselves anymore, Casey wasn’t treating her like a BF anymore- she wasn’t placating Cindy with good lies anymore-
She was spending the night out- sometimes WITH Caylee-Casey now wanted away from her mom – If she did want Cindy to baby sit more, -she wasn’t playing the gee mom your my bestest friend in the whole wide world and what would I do without you charade anymore.
IMO, Cindy wanted THIS to STOP-During her vacation she wanted Caylee AND Casey home – She didn’t want to spend that time with George- SHE was looking forward to LOTS of TIME together with HER girls- it was going to be the CMA club- oh what fun they were gonna have- I bet Cindy even had a detailed itinerary- which she EXPECTED to become reality- Casey put the KABOSH on ALL OF IT -The mother and daughter vacation of a lifetime-the CMA club- the friendship-everything-
So yes IMO Cindy knew- but allowed herself to be duped -She needed it to be the truth- for appearances- for her sanity -for her selfworth- for the admiration of Casey- for the benefit of Caylee- and she went along with the lie- To keep the peace-I mean- there was always room for doubt- Casey did come home with money sometimes and stories and free passes right?
She had emails and schedules and a seasonal id right? SHE HAD TO BE WORKING SOMETIMES right? Cindy chose to believe it.
Lee didn’t care one way or another. He knew but what was the point?-
George KNEW the TRUTH but was ORDERED to put his head in the sand-
The lie wasn’t harming anyone. Caylee was taken care of all the time by her mommy. Casey was there when Cindy wanted her- So what if Cindy had to work longer hours- she was the queen of the club of CMA- Casey eventually- would get her stuff together and choose to go back to school and better herself- and Cindy would be her hero- She may even be nominated herself for mom and BF of the year- it would all work out in the end- IMO this is what Cindy believed with every fiber of her being- IT would all work out – no one would be the wiser. What harm was there in that?
JMO
Casey Anthony’s lawyers spent hours Monday sorting through records from a group that tried to find Caylee’s body.”
They will again tomorrow- They, according to Kathi B, have been calling researchers, asking whether or not they searched Suburban Drive.
IMO, I am conflicted about this ruling, I know that it is a good thing that the defense has been given all the records, so that they can’t later claim foul- and set up a plea- But part of me still knows that the defense calling these searchers will have long lasting repercussions to who will volunteer for searches in the future. maybe that is a good thing- IDK.
What makes me scratch my head is- the defense has to be privy to the same evidence we are privy to- so how in the world, can they say that area wasn’t under water and Caylee was never in the trunk, and Casey never disposed of her little body?
I realize they are trying to create reasonable doubt- but I see nothing reasonable about this tactic…
http://www.wftv.com/video/25272624/index.html
Fishing Expedition, including the water.
They are numbskulls. I could literally get 50 people to say that swamp was bone dry if I chose, this will be almost 3 years old by the time it hits a court room.
However, if they cannot tie it someone other than their client, it is background exhaust.
B
So far that quotes I’ve read attributed to the 2 defense lawyers reference TES and searchers, only states to me that searchers said (if they even said anything….don’t know why they’d wait to be called to say it) they were on Suburban Drive and not that they searched the specific area in Suburban Drive where precious CAYLEE was found. Suburban Drive is a road many people drive on it and walk on it’s sidewalk everyday that does not mean that they searched it, specifically the precise area where CAYLEE was thrown to. Even the private investigator was the closest and he did not search the precise location where CAYLEE was. Lawyerese speak. Technicalities. Those defense lawyers, the inmate, and her family must really think the rest of the world is stupid and that they’re highly intelligent superior beings, hahahhaha! And you shall know the truth, and the truth will set you free (the other free, not from jail). This I know….as I am sure they know too.
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY!!
if nothing else, to “Kronk” them…the more “rabbits” the defense can bring into the court room for the jury to chase the better (or so they think). I’ve seen that strategy fail more than once.
RE: The statement KC made on one of the jail house videos . . . (PP) Don’t worry, I haven’t said anything…
Could this have been because GA didn’t really see KC and Caylee leaving the house on the 16th of June? Was George worried because he knew what KC had done and he lied to cover for her. KC, of course, would never say anything because she needed GA to say it was the 16th. KC knew what she had done on the night of the 15th. He agreed to lie for her and because of this agreement to give her the cover of the 16th he then couldn’t live with it anymore. Hence, the superficial suicide attempt. This has probably been hashed over previously, but it is something that’s been bothering me for a long time.
Blink,
did you get my message please?
Yes and I am not in a position to do that through the weekend based on case load. If you could post here, it will stay private as you know.
B
mom
I noticed that at websleuths one of the searchers called by the defense were asked something about their minor children! can you believe that?
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5654356#post5654356
I have not been on here in a long time only popping in on major info days usually.
I am on here today to say that I got a friendly call from none other than the defense team for Casey. Shocked the beegeezus out of me! I had heard in the new about Nejame and the TES issue and just never thought they would really call.
I will say right now I have not read all the posts from about page 46 to here on the matter. After I post this I am going to go back and read. Just had to get this out.
It took a few seconds for my mind to comprehend who is really was. I of course heard Casey Anthony and defense team, but it took a bit to get that it was Defense not the other side. The guy asked if I searched, on what day and where. Did I do it with TES or on my own. What did I see ect. So from my answers he said he was allowed to ask me more questions. He said they might be calling back. I have no info that would help them as I did not see anyone searching that area or did I see any orange flags that someone had been there. I know the area and it is like a bowl if Tim Miller says it was full of water it was. Just so shocked that I got a call.
My brother said I should have said I am not saying anything get a court order to make me. It happened so fast, and really I would not say that I can’t help thier side.
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Doesn’t everyone that gets a call about a criminal matter go blather about it at websleuths?
Tell me again what that has to do with Caylee Anthony?
Sheesh.
Thanks for posting that Chica, we shall put her on the “waiting to be kronked” list.
B
Blink… Clip 1, @ 6:14…Cindy says her new book “Will not be a tell all” book. Cindy’s comment to me says… “I will never reveal the truth”, “So help me g..”.
Chica, how unnerving for you- I can imagine it was very strange and kinda scary. I am a very private person, despite my neverending need to write my thoughts on BOC LOL- I can’t imagine being in your position. After all, you were merely trying to help find a missing little baby- to think that ends up meaning you are now on a call list of the defense-
Blink, will these calls be made public? I hope for the searchers sake, their private info is redacted. What a mess, It is truly sad how many people Casey has harmed in her inability to take responsibility for her actions and admit that Caylee was never a missing child.
Yes everyone has been on WS Blink I mean everyone- wink wink- even Yuri…
I don’t think Chica was called, I think she was bringing it over to share, or I completely missed that and I appolly.
B
ps. Yes, heart me that Yuri on WS, good man and wicked smart.
B
oops- just realized- it wasn’t your account chica but Flamoms account- in my defense I am not myself tonight- making lots of spelling errors ect- chica- i am glad that you are not on the defense’s short list- I feel sorry for Florida Mom- yes- I dont understand why she would feel the need to post that info on WB- perhaps she needed reassurance from her online friends-…
My previous post still stands though- I find it very sad just how many peoples lives have been invaded and turned upside down because of Casey Anthony’s unwillingness to stand up and tell the truth – Caylee Marie Anthony, her baby daughter- 2 years old, beautiful little girl- was never missing- Casey knew where she was- she just rather not say she was dead- first inside the trunk of her car, then later in the bog down the road from her home….
Feel better Mom 3.0- I knew that was an “off” moment for you, you have so few of them, lol, your entitled..
Why anyone would talk to the defense in this case, without a subpoena, makes no sense to me whatsoever. Never did.
I recommend they listen to Joe Jordan’s interview. Anyone think he is glad he did?
B
Yeah Blink thanx I figured it out Im slow on the up take tonight… Sigh thanks for setting me straight.
Blink, I totally agree. momster is not stupid. Now anyone who talks to the dreamless team without a supoena . . . IMO . . . now that is stupid.