Murder In Mexico: Tiffany Hartley Endures 16 Hours Of Interviews In David Hartley Death
..” I have nothing to hide. I Have ABSOLUTELY nothing to hide..”
Tiffany Hartley emerged on CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360 yesterday after her 16th hour of interviews at the Mexican Consulate in McAllen, Texas.
Hartley recounted the events of September 30, ending with the alleged murder of her husband David. Ms. Hartley gave both new testimony and confirmed her previous statements according to reports from the Mexican Attorney General and Ms. Hartley herself, without the presence of an attorney.
According to several statements from Hartley, David was shot “off his jet ski” while the couple was returning from the Mexican side of Falcon Lake, where they briefly took pictures of the historic church on Old Guerrerro. Neither David Hartley nor his Sea Doo watercraft have been recovered.
One of the most baffling aspect of the case, is the fact that Ms. Hartley claims the pair were shot at at as they were driving their jet skis away from alleged “pirates” they both waved a friendly hello to, seconds before. Tiffany Hartley was uninjured in the attack, and her jet ski was not hit in the gunfire. Although media was alerted last week that tests on a possible blood source on Tiffany’s life vest were due back that afternoon, we were quickly told there would be no updates about the possible blood evidence at this time.
This afternoon, blinkoncrime Editor spoke with Chuck Smith, owner Smith Marina USA about specifics of the Sea Doo RXT.
..Your correct, the RXT has a chip in the starter that is electronically programmed to “match” the owners lanyard key. If he was wearing the lanyard, whether attached to his vest, or in some cases the arm, and he was thrown off the ski, it activates a kill switch and will not start without the key it is programmed to without a factory reprogramming, which of course, one would need the paperwork for. In short, no matter what, they would need his key to start it.
Blink Question: What if he was not attached to the key, and he was shot and flew off the unit “in motion”, this would not shut the engine off, correct?
CS: Correct. The ski would continue in the direction the handlebars were pointing and continue to throttle in that direction.
Blink: How hard are these models to sink?
CS: Virtually impossible. I have never actually heard of, or seen one, sink to the bottom. The way the Coast Guard standards are now with these, they have hulls similar to boats.
Blink: Could enough bullet holes sink it? What about if the contiuum– could that have caused it to flip? Could anyone right it?
CS: No, not unless we are talking morter rounds. I guess in theory an automatic weapon could put enough holes cut it in half if that was the goal, but again, your still going to see shards of fiberglass all over the water, remnants similar to a boat accident or crash. Again, under these circumstances, I don’t see how he could flip it, but if it were, again, harder to see because the bottom is black, but any SAR or Coast Guard deployment knows what abnormalities to look for on the water surface. It would be next to impossible to “right it” in deep water. It would be more likely they would drag it to shallow water.
Blink: Is this chop-shoppable?
CS: Absolutely. There is some after factory devices, similar to lo jack, but the engine and parts are expensive and could easily be sold that way.
Blink: He was wearing a PFD I. In your opinion is that keeping him afloat until he is located if he was left in the water?
CS: Absolutely, unless it was removed, or he and the vest were removed from the water, he would be floating, yes.
As announced this morning on Dana Pretzer commentary, Blink, Editor In Chief of blinkoncrime.com will be discussing the Hartley case this evening live at 9PM EST on Scared Monkeys The Dana Pretzer Show.
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JR says:
October 29, 2010 at 5:19 am
@ S.H. I totally agree with what you said about TH in comparison to Zahra Baker as below:
“S.H. says:
October 28, 2010 at 2:30 pm
I agree with Crimestopper, David is alive.
This is a scam in my opinon – I am no longer giving Tiffany attention.
I will save my prayers for Zahra Baker, the child who was really is a victim.”
Zahra Baker is a victim if there ever was one, but it also occurred to me tonight that she is also a hero, a symbol of something we should never forget. I shared this with my sister who was down in the dumps tonight because of her husband’s behavior and my advice was to focus on finding happiness within herself until his/their problems are somehow resolved. Her initial response was a “Hmmm…” a sigh that was hardly convinced. Then I told her about the story of Zahra Baker – this 10 year old girl who beat 2 forms of childhood cancer and was left with an artificial leg and hearing aid as a result. To top all that is this case of her alleged murderous stepmother and cowardly father – where every day the details of her home life come out sounding worse then the next. She was taunted, she was abused, she was locked in her room all the time, she was kept in the attic, nothing done despite reports of the abuse… she TRULY HAD NO ONE TO COUNT ON. And this child who had absolutely no reason to be happy, somehow somewhere always found a reason to smile = every image of that adorable little girl shows her smiling all the time. I said to my sister, just think about that and seriously imagine being her and living the kind of problems she had….if she can look within herself and still always find some source of her happy face, then so could we and so SHOULD WE. My sister listened to the story and after a long pause it hit her, “Wow… you’re totally right. Thanks, I need to think of that little girl from now on.”
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JR,
I have tears for Zayra after reading your comment. This is Halloween,
Zayra should be at a party or treat or treatin’. I realize not everyone celebrates Halloween, most people do in one fashion or another.
You said it all in post, may I add the sadistic step-mother would
mock or make fun of Zayra. The child had a forgiving face, this may
be why, so much to forgive at such a young age.
Thank-you, God Bless Zayra’s soul, since, Nov.1 is All Saint’s Day,
Zayra is a Saint & a Hero!
It makes sense that she has his wallet (though there are plenty of things in this case that don’t make sense.) They were going jet skiing…you don’t take your wallet jet skiing, just like you wouldn’t take it swimming. You leave it locked in your vehicle.
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Interesting statement in that Tiffany has David’s wallet.. I would think most men take their wallet with them automatically whenever they go out for ID purposes (drivers license) & money for trivial things like gas & the stop at subways (who paid).. Didn’t David show his drivers license to the troopers during that tag stop ?
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/
Katprint comment:
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FWIW, I was employed as a SIU (Special Investigation Unit) fraud specialist for Libery Mutual Insurance and for Coregis Insurance (which is a sister company to Industrial Indemnity) for about 10 years total. I worked primarily on auto accident fraud but several of my colleagues worked on bogus life insurance claims. Almost all the faked death claims were cracked by closely watching the “deceased” person’s family. If David Hartley is in fact alive, at some point he will contact his mother.
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=2998178507568727219
I interested, scroll 60 percent down. (BTW I am not Katprint):0
http://www.drphil.com/shows/page/be_in_the_audience/
Dr. Phil is taped in Hollywood, California. LOL.
Any jet ski that I have been on had a compartment for personal items. It wouldn’t be that weird for someone to lock their wallet in the truck, except that in this case, they were in an area that they knew was dangerous. They had lived on both sides of the border. Why would he travel back and forth on that lake, crossing the border without his wallet (and presumably his id) on him? He would need his id and proof of citizenship if he was stopped for some reason. It would have been incredibly foolish to not take that wallet with them that day… or at the very least, some forms of id.
Crimesolver, sorry about my spelling error, we both need a dictionary.
Do you she is looking for a Reality Show? She is in Hollywood.
Why else?
A wild thought is she is dropping off a money-bag (LOL) for the mysterious (unconfirmed) person on the Lake.
@nana2 says:
October 29, 2010 at 4:53 pm
I agree with you about the wallet. Fine, I can buy that he left the wedding ring at home (surveillance footage from Subway, please). But he brought his wallet, and had truck keys too. Any water sports person knows that you do not leave valuables in the parked car in parks/at the beach.. I believe he would have stuck his wallet and keys in the watertight storage, it’s like a little glove box made for just that kind of thing…
@Tandt says:
October 29, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Cant be having your wallet with you in mexico someone might steal your id or just be able to id you
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-what do you mean by, “just be able to id you…”
And surely he routinely walked around with a wallet whilst working and living in Mexico…and surely even Tiff did.
@tamhugh says:
October 30, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Any jet ski that I have been on had a compartment for personal items. It wouldn’t be that weird for someone to lock their wallet in the truck, except that in this case, they were in an area that they knew was dangerous. They had lived on both sides of the border. Why would he travel back and forth on that lake, crossing the border without his wallet (and presumably his id) on him? He would need his id and proof of citizenship if he was stopped for some reason. It would have been incredibly foolish to not take that wallet with them that day… or at the very least, some forms of id.
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tamhugh, I think his jet ski did have that type of compartment because Tiffany has said that is where the camera is that David took the pics with that day..
I would also think that one of them would want to have a wallet, cash etc with them just in case they had a problem with a jet ski while they were out riding & its usually a man thing.. This also raises the question for me anyway ‘would they go on this little jet ski jaunt without a cell phone’? Since they were both ‘toy crazy’ I would have thought one or both of them would have taken a cell phone(s) with them just in case something came up.. No mention of cell phones that I know of..
I don’t think CNN is stupid… I wonder if they are writing this on purpose….
(snip)
She also addressed the questions some people have raised about her account: Were the Hartleys caught in a drug deal gone sour? Did they have an unhappy marriage?
And time and again, she returned to the subject of David, her husband of eight years.
(end of snip)
Is that their way of pointing out that SHE IS AVOIDING ANSWERING/ADDRESSING THE QUESTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the very next paragraphs were the writer pointing out her switch from present to past.
@S.H. says:
October 30, 2010 at 7:50 am
TH has everything of Davids EXCEPT the Camera!
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TH was asked about the camera in an early interview & she stated ‘its with David on the jet ski because he was the photographer not her’ (paraphrased but close)..
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S.H. says:
October 30, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Crimesolver, sorry about my spelling error, we both need a dictionary.
Do you she is looking for a Reality Show? She is in Hollywood.
Why else?
A wild thought is she is dropping off a money-bag (LOL) for the mysterious (unconfirmed) person on the Lake.
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Perhaps Cali is the half-way meet point for her & DH its not that far from Mexico.. JMO
S.H. says:
October 30, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Do you she is looking for a Reality Show? She is in Hollywood.
Why else?
My comment:
I DO believe TH is living the ULTIMATE Reality Show, and we are all IN IT! She has worked the media well to her advantage. She is on TV every freakin’ day! Next step is to get someone to PAY her for it. Even if DH is indeed deceased, she has beneftted from the exposure, and I expect her to want more.
Tiffany pleaded (day and night) for David’s body for three weeks.
She fled Texas, not once, has she mentioned David’s body.
This is eerie, she leaves Texas, not even “one” plea of any kind.
I think David’s dad is on the fence, IMO. I saw the Dad and he was
very careful with his words and did not look in grief, he knows his
son, so does Dad suspect something?
Madilu if I wanted to start a new life in a new place I would not want my old id I would want a new identity so I wouldn’t be found or recognized otherwise I might get caught
Saxey says:
October 30, 2010 at 6:12 pm
S.H. says:
October 30, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Do you she is looking for a Reality Show? She is in Hollywood.
Why else?
My comment:
I DO believe TH is living the ULTIMATE Reality Show, and we are all IN IT! She has worked the media well to her advantage. She is on TV every freakin’ day! Next step is to get someone to PAY her for it. Even if DH is indeed deceased, she has beneftted from the exposure, and I expect her to want more.
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LOL! You get a gold star, Saxey!
Does Tiffany know it is dangerous to lie to the FBI?
M.S. lied to the FBI – went to jail. If M.S. was sent to jail for a
white lie, can you imagine if Tiff is fibbing? The FBI may not be amused.
The Reality Show, “Dragnet”!
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Martha Stewart, contrary to popular belief, did not go to jail for insider trading. She went to jail for lying to officials about it. Had she admitted that she knew insider trading was going on she would not have gone to jail. Her sentencing was conspiracy, obstruction of an agency proceeding, and making false statements to federal investigators. Her activity, while immoral, was not illegal, as she received the information second-hand. she was very dumb and stupid b/c she lied to officials!!
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_did_Martha_Stewart_go_to_prison
nana2 says:
October 30, 2010 at 5:57 pm
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S.H. says:
October 30, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Crimesolver, sorry about my spelling error, we both need a dictionary.
Do you she is looking for a Reality Show? She is in Hollywood.
Why else?
A wild thought is she is dropping off a money-bag (LOL) for the mysterious (unconfirmed) person on the Lake.
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Perhaps Cali is the half-way meet point for her & DH its not that far from Mexico.. JMO
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I don’t know the answer, Nana, but if we were playing the game, Hot & Cold, I would think you getting warm.
Thank-you for mentioning the Photographer of the family. Why the fudge, the reporter didn’t ask, “what kind of camera”? Is it digital?
Does he have a professional camera with a tripod?
CNN is brave writing on paper, sadly, they are intimated by Tiffany in person.
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Do cell phones work on Lake Falcon?
The Falcon State Park would have knowledge about cell phones on L.F.
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/spdest/findadest/parks/falcon/
The Coast Guard would need working Cell phones, right? Do they use Walky Talkies? LOL. Who knows. Interesing, no one has addressed that queston until today.
“Radio Cell Phones” is what the Pirates carried during their attack on
Fisherman according to this article.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/29/AR2010052903707.html
(snip)
Dressed in black, the pirates brandish automatic weapons, carry radio cellphones and board the anglers’ boats. They demand weapons or drugs from their captives, but finding neither, seem satisfied with taking $400 or $500 as booty, according to law enforcement officials and victims’ accounts..
(snip)
I researched “radio cell phones” here we go. A photo is encluded of the gizmo charger and cell phone. I am so puzzled I can’t type fast enough! LOL.
The Water Resistant Hand Crank Radio/Cell Phone Charger.
http://www.hammacher.com/publish/72995.asp
Idea!
The FBI should check if she had a MAID! I bet she had a maid in Mexico, curious,if in Texas,too?
I knew a woman who had a Mexican maid $10.00 a day, watching
her four sons. This was thirty years ago in Texas.
Who thinks she did any housework?
http://www.boomerater.com/shopping/403-water-resistant-hand-crank-radiocell-phone-charger-consumer-electronics-recommended-product
Water-resistant Hand Crank Radio/Cell Phone Charger
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Did any reporter ask if they owned a The Water Resistant Hand Crank Radio/Cell Phone Charger?
The truth will come out. IF there was a cleaning maid in Mex or Tex, the maid will know more…IMO.
@ S.H. says:
October 30, 2010 at 10:36 pm
When I read Tiffany might be in California I guess the ‘meeting up with David’ was my first thought..
In early interviews Tiffany was asked about the pics they took that day at the church & her response was ‘they were in the camera which was with David since he was the photographer in the family’ & that she wasn’t the picture taker (paraphrased).. I was always amazed by that statement since they seem to have a lot of pics of David on his toys etc so I wondered who took those pics.. Did they always take someone with them that could take those amazing pics ?
S.H., thanks for the info on the Radio Cells another thing not explained why Tiffany & David would take to the jet skis in such a bad area with no communication devices for them to keep in contact with each other & perhaps for emergency assistance for a failed jet ski if needed..
This is not my comment, I am too busy – looking into gizmos :+
Hat Tip to UFO! Interesting site, UFO.
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http://blog.eyesforlies.com/
UFO
OMG!!! Look what I found!! Everyone READ THIS!!
September 28, 2010
A 2 day class held by Sheriff Sigi, 2 days BEFORE David went missing!!!
David went “missing on Sept. 30th.
Sheriff Sigi’s group, The Southwestern Border Sheriff’s Coalition educates Christians about threats some law-enforcement officials believe loom across the border.
How can we find out if Tiffany & David attended this two-day “Border School”???
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SNIPPED:
Garlow was speaking to the attendees at a two-day “Border School” sponsored by the Border Sheriff’s Posse, an evangelical group that teams up with the Texas Border Sheriff’s Coalition (TBSC) and the Southwestern Border Sheriff’s Coalition to educate Christians about threats some law-enforcement officials believe loom across the border.
( This is a large article but very worth the read )
http://www.theinvestigativefund.org/investigations/immigrationandlabor/1401/at_war_in_texas?page=entire
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S.H. says:
October 30, 2010 at 11:02 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/29/AR2010052903707.html
Interesting article especially this part:
snip)
“I saw ‘em, and I saw they were machine guns. They were that close, they were 15 yards away from me,” San Antonio bass chaser Richard Drake told a local television station. “I was scared.”
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Imagine that close & no shots fired no one killed..
@ S.H. says:
October 30, 2010 at 10:54 pm
S.H, here are two articles that address the Walkie Talkie/Radio/Cell issues…
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question530.htm
http://www.connecticutplus.com/cplus/information/news/News_1/Cell-phones-vs-VHF-radios87668766.shtml
So according to the latest CNN article, Tiffany LOVED Reynoso and didn’t want to leave and move to Texas, even though David was working long hours and she apparently spent a lot of time without him. What did she do at those times? And from McAllen, she/he/they REALLY didn’t want to go back to Colorado. Why is that? What could have made Tiffany want to stay in that area so badly? Could it really be that a boyfriend helped Tiffany? Maybe David was offed on land near the church somewhere, and maybe he did take a bullet for her, but I doubt it unless there was a silencer on the gun, since no one heard any shots that day. Maybe he was offed another way. Maybe he IS buried somewhere in Mexico near the Lake where they went that day…and someone was lying in wait for David, who could have been the one who took off on David’s jetski. It’s interesting that NO ONE saw a jetski being removed from the Lake ANYWHERE, and there are only so many places that could have happened. Could the jetski have been ridden so far away and then taken out that no one is making the connection? I don’t know how big the Lake is or how many places there are to take the jetski out, but one would think that people in the vicinity of EVERY exit ramp would have been interviewed to find out if they remember anything. IDK maybe that’s unrealistic. Anyone know the layout of the entire lake?
I realize TH and DH took lots of vacations together, but it would be interesting to know when/where the last one took place. She may have met someone in just the last few months before David’s “shooting” and planned this all out because she didn’t want to move back to Colorado (it will be interesting to see how long she actually stays there now). I note one of her earlier FB entries says (paraphrasing, can’t remember all of it) “what a long, boring day! Wish I could have gone with David to……..but no go….” – Seriously, if you’re Tiffany, do you get on FB just to talk about how bored you are and how NOTHING happened today? TH is usually bragging about all the stuff she’s done and the places she’s gone and how loved and spoiled she was by David and how everything was so wonderful for her. Why would she tell people in this post that she was bored? To the contrary, she could have been WITH someone all day and just SAYING she was bored to cover her tracks. Maybe this is where it all began. All MOO.
@S.H.,
Regarding voting, my sentiments exactly. I have found through the years that the people who complain the most about government usually don’t vote.
Friday was the last day for early voting. I voted here in Texas last Thursday afternoon. Proudly voted AGAINST Rick Perry! He is now using two grieving widows to prop up his gubernatorial campaign. One is a legitimate grieving widow, the other is T.H. But what they have in common is both involve illegals. I would put nothing past this man.
His concern for the border is conveniently timed, phony, and contrived. He has been governor for many years, haven’t heard a peep out of him on the border issue until now. In fact he was a huge proponent of the NAFTA Super Highway which would have opened up the border from Mexico all the way to Canada. I credit Ross Perot for getting that ill conceived idea taken off the map. This project would have also meant the government claiming imminent domain in thousands of cases and people being thrown out of their houses, off their land and farms.
Yet these are the same idiots that keep chastizing the Obama administration for “big government”. Hey Perry, don’t like big government, then get off the government dole! And stop making the taxpayers of Texas pay your $9900 a month rent on that mansion in Austin that you say you need because of your “security detail”. Say what? Where was that security detail when they were burning down the governor’s mansion several years ago?? It was ruled arson, they had a guy on camera, yet no one has even been arrested for the crime.
Want to solve crime in Texas, Governor? Find out who burned down your damned house!
End of soapbox. Thanks for listening Blinkers. Y’all are great!
This is a P.S. for anyone in Texas who has not yet voted. Your governor says he is against “BIG Government”. Yet he attended the Bilderberg Convention several years ago in Istanbul Turkey. The Bilderberg group is a group of international wealthy families and bankers who meet in secret every year. Perry’s having attended that convention is a violation of his oath of office and the Logan Act which prohibits government leaders from going to foreign countries and trying to make secret deals. This group is in fact, trying to form a “One World Government”. They were behind the demise of all the different European currencies and the formation of the “Euro Dollar”. They want to do away with all currency and also have one world currency. George H.W. Bush, bigtime friend of Perry, many times has used the phrase “New World Order”. He’s not talking about ending crime. He’s talking about ending national sovereignty and ending your rights as American citizens!
The Clintons are big time Bilderberg. Hillary Clinton lied to a reporter when she was confronted about her membership in this organization. She said she knew nothing about it. Perry denied knowing about it when he was at book signings trying to hawk his book.
They think we citizens are dumb as rocks and not onto their schemes and illegal activities while we pay their salaries.
Please vote!!!
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ChiaPet517 :
Info on Falcon Lake
http://www.tackleandrods.com/lake/lake.htm
One of the things about Tiffany when she speaks she either speaks in bumper sticker words like ‘secure the border’ or cops & robbers language like this headline ‘he took a bullet for me’.. How many women would use those type of words it sounds like something out of a movie script..
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/10/28/hartley.falcon.lake/index.html?hpt=C1
Every picture I see of Tiffany including the wedding photo on the motorcycle she always has puffy eyes like she either doesn’t get much sleep or the possibility of drugs.. just an opinion.
Mermaid wrote:
Proudly voted AGAINST Rick Perry! He is now using two grieving widows to prop up his gubernatorial campaign. One is a legitimate grieving widow….
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Mermaid, on October 18, 2010 at 4:26 pm you wrote:
A federal judge in Houston dismissed nearly 400 illegal immigration cases recently. This is what they are doing, rounding them all up for show, then letting them go free out the back door if they have no criminal record. But they have committed a crime, entering the country illegally! These judges would not be doing this if they weren’t getting their marching orders from further up.
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Well, this grieving widow on the Perry Campaign that you are BITCHING about…her husband was killed in the line of duty by an immigrant with a RECORD… who was let out the back door by BILL WHITE in the “sanctuary town” of Houston. So in other words, your statements above (different dates) are contradicting themselves. You sound like Tiffany Hartley trying to push an agenda. How ignorant.
SH wrote”
Thank-you for mentioning the Photographer of the family. Why the fudge, the reporter didn’t ask, “what kind of camera”? Is it digital?
Does he have a professional camera with a tripod? CNN is brave writing on paper, sadly, they are intimated by Tiffany in person.
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Can you actually see the Hartleys carrying a bulky tripod on the jetskis for a photo session 9 or 10 miles out on water? Professional & amature cameras of today…do not necessarily need a tripod. Plus, do you honestly think that CNN is intimated by Tiffany Hartley? It’s all about the $$$$ and reporting dear.
SH wrote:
The FBI should check if she had a MAID! I bet she had a maid in Mexico, curious,if in Texas,too? I knew a woman who had a Mexican maid $10.00 a day, watching her four sons. This was thirty years ago in Texas. Who thinks she did any housework?
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Do u have a life SH? You are way too obsessed with this story. Your comments have slowly been heading towards a type of hysteria. I would rather read pro-active comments than reactive comments.
Blink,
Do you have any new information on this case? Thank you!
Yes, Nana, The “Radio/Cell Phone Charger” charges a cell phone, includes a emergency siren, weather updates, Blinking lights,etc.
I never knew this gadjet, existed, until the subject was brought up about cell phones.
David was never on the water, it is my opinion, because if he were,
he would have been prepared.
(snip)
it has an ALERT function to receive National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration weather warnings(snip)
http://www.boomerater.com/shopping/403-water-resistant-hand-crank-radiocell-phone-charger-consumer-electronics-recommended-product
Mermaid14 says:
October 31, 2010 at 1:49 pm
@S.H.,
Regarding voting, my sentiments exactly. I have found through the years that the people who complain the most about government usually don’t vote.
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You voted! Good for you. You are very well informed, according to your post. Thank-you for informing me on Hillary, I always thought
she was phony.
Again, I am going with political corruption on the north side of the border for this incident. Everything seems to be leaning in that direction. This incident has been used to create a firestorm right before one of the biggest political elections in U.S. history, one that can turn the tide of our nation to recovery or disaster. Electing Tea Party candidates and supporting flag waving gun toting half hysterical ralliers is NOT the way to go people. This goes not only for Texas but everywhere. Do not be fooled by these idiots.
Another recent incident in Houston in case ya’ll haven’t heard about it. ON AUGUST 29, 2010 A WAREHOUSE FIRE IN NORTH HOUSTON DESTROYED EVERY SINGLE ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINE IN HARRIS COUNTY. That is where they were ALL housed. The cause of the fire is as yet undetermined. Yet barely a blip from the media. Google it, not making it up. Folks, Harris County has about 4 million people. Election officials claim this fire will not effect the outcome of the election. I live in the Houston area, but not Harris County. How in God’s name can they say this could not affect the outcome of the election????!!! Oh by the way, Harris County has historically supported more Democratic candidates in national and state elections. We are not considered East Texas.
What absolutely boggles my mind is that Gov. Rick Perry lives in Austin, one of the most liberal cities in the nation. Could it be this is why he prefers to live in secrecy behind gated walls? He doesn’t want anyone knowing what he is up to or who is paying him a visit. Governor’s mansion fire still unsolved.
Merck Laboratories, one of Perry’s biggest $$ buddies, was the maker of Gardisil, a vaccine which Gov.Perry decided every 11 year old girl in Texas must submit to. The will of the people kept this a**hole from forcing this under Executive Order. Merck Laboratories also created the infamous Vioxx. A freedom of information request revealed that Merck executives created a “hit list” of doctors, literally Merck company officials spoke of “neutralizing” doctors and researchers who were critical of the drug. They financially blackmailed research institutions by threatening to cut off funds if they did not support Vioxx. Well the body count won out. Just too many inconvenient deaths for the FDA to allow this dangerous drug to remain on the market.
My point is, this is who Rick Perry’s friends are. In addition to the Hartleys. I will never believe the story. And the story will never be proven because it can’t be. Because it never happened. You can’t prove a lie.
Some time before you vote take a few minutes to look at the history of what happens right before major political elections. Convenient deaths, fires, accidents, assassinations, plane crashes, incidents, you name it. All in the name of the ultimate power grab.
Please don’t get me wrong. I am not trying to tell anyone how to vote. I am merely asking people to become informed. To stop looking to network news and even cable news for information on candidates and what is going on in your country. Stop believing everything they tell you. How do you think we got in this freaking mess in the first place?? Stand up, act out and demand accountability. Your vote really can change things.
For those of you with “google-itis” here is a direct link to the story about the fire.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/11/us/politics/11voting.html
Gov. Perry’s number one opponent in the gubernatorial election is former mayor of Houston Bill White.
Coincidence? You decide.
nana2 says:
October 31, 2010 at 11:03 am
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“I saw ‘em, and I saw they were machine guns. They were that close, they were 15 yards away from me,” San Antonio bass chaser Richard Drake told a local television station. “I was scared.”
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Imagine that close & no shots fired no one killed..
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Nana2,
I lifed this comment. ‘Anonymous ‘questions how Tiffany can hear whispers.
Anonymous said…
One thing that has puzzled me, is the blurp in the lenghthy CNN article were TH says ‘the men in the boats were whispering in Spanish amongst themselves”.
How could she hear them whispering with all the noise (boats, jet skis) around??
Those bad guys were that close that she could hear them whisper in Spanish, but couldn’t see them??
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Sunday, 31 October, 2010
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=3460407999453041188
nana2 says:
October 31, 2010 at 11:33 am
S.H, here are two articles that address the Walkie Talkie/Radio/Cell issues
http://www.connecticutplus.com/cplus/information/news/News_1/Cell-phones-vs-VHF-radios87668766.shtml
Thank-you, Nana.
I need to find a photo of a Marine radio. I need a lot of information (LOL) in order to understand inventions or gizmos. I will try youtube.com for a demo.
David may have one of these radios, because he traveled the world, the Marine radio can be used through out the world. The more we learn the less likely David was even on the lake.
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A VHF marine radio is the single most important discretionary safety system you should buy. It is probably also the least expensive. Waterproof hand held units retail for less than $100. snip..
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@ s.H et al.
RE: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/29/AR2010052903707.html
In this article, which admittedly I skimmed over, I found the following to be of most interest:
“One group of pirates was savvy enough to demand the memory chip from an angler’s camera, lest they be identified. ”
Surely it was the same, or related group of alleged pirates “Zetas”, in which case, makes absolutely NO SENSE whatsoever that they would a) Let her get away only to identify them personally, and/or b) not be SURE that she did not have a (the) camera, with memory chip with images of them, on it. If you know what I mean… Makes no sense. They are criminals, but surely well-versed in CYA. And they have no value for human life. It’s all hinky.
@ChiaPet517 says:
October 31, 2010 at 1:11 pm
“…but it would be interesting to know when/where the last one took place. …Seriously, if Seriously, if you’re Tiffany, do you get on FB just to talk about how bored you are and how NOTHING happened today? you’re Tiffany, do you get on FB just to talk about how bored you are and how NOTHING happened today?”
Their last vacation was in key West, FL, merely a week or two before the incident. Although admitting to a boring day on FB is nothing unusual in and of itself (I recently updated my status of de-fleaing my dogs and home…major bummer…PDX is bad right now!) -however, the bulk of her posts indeed appearg to be braggin about ans showcasing her vacations, travels, purchase, and lifestyle…very little to do with the every-day life. And interestingly NEVER a word about a friend, or friends, or any female companionship or camaraderie(i.e. girls’ night out, etc. =NOTHING). Not one picture of her with girlfriends, or friends or groups of friends -nothing… It was ALL about beach vacations, and David. I still believe that she was quite lonely and unhappy -put up a facade, and that all wasn’t exactly what she presented to others…and that now she is lavishing in her 15 minutes. And I guarantee it will be no more than 15 minutes, in terms of her, “quest” to secure the borders. She, at the very least is not well informed or educated enough to further the cause. Why, not even 2 weeks ago, she admitted to not realizing that Reynosa-McAllen/Rio Grande River border was a high drug trafficking area, and had no idea that pirates would actually be carrying guns…Just a few things that make you go, “Yep. Uh huh. Really? Seriously? Wow, I will really take your leadership and advice on this issue…”
(Notwithstanding the true issues that exist, however, it is my opinion that her ignorance will actually work against the cause, sadly.
A “fat chance” his Jet Ski was on Lake Falcon on that day. IMO.
The Falcon Lake man, seen with TH, was not her husband is the rumor.
If, If, If, this is true, this means someone saw her and the mystery,
unconfirmed man.
I saw a jet ski in a truck with a board, apparently, a Jet Jki can be
stowed on truck. Perhaps, it depends on the size of Jet Ski? Ten feet
was the length of hers, David’s may have been the same size.
The jet skis are identical.
B
A (10 foot)Jet Ski can be transported on a flat bed truck, what kind
of flat bed truck would be needed?
The link below on #5 states to use a “flat bed truck” if you don’t have Trailer.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
How to Transport a Jet Ski
http://www.ehow.com/how_2087097_transport-jet-ski.html
5.
Use the flat bed of a pick up truck when transporting the jet ski without a trailer.
Read more: How to Transport a Jet Ski | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_2087097_transport-jet-ski.html#ixzz142aNlG4I
Monday, November 01, 2010
Deception: Tiffany on Dr. Phil
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/
Monday – November 1, 2010
Behind the Headlines
Plus, the disappearance of David Hartley reads like a murder mystery. His wife, Tiffany, says they were on vacation when David was shot in the head by Mexican pirates while jet skiing. His body was never recovered, and Mexican authorities question if the event really occurred. Some people wonder if Tiffany was involved, but she maintains her innocence. Find out why she declined a lie detector test, and hear Dr. Phil’s strong message for her.
“We launched from Zapata, and we headed to this church that my husband had been researching for several months on the Mexico side. It’s just a historical church, and a year ago, they were holding mass at that church. He wanted to get some pictures before we went back to Colorado the following week.”
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I just wonder if David took the Jet Ski before she went to FL.
He did also have had a Trailer for his motorcycle? Just asking:)
There is a dog-on reason she hightailed it out of Texas, what is that
reason? Perhaps, she didn’t want the FBI to inventory the garage?
http://drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/6030/?id=6030&showID=1534&versionID=
Dr. Phil fills you in on the program.
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=7770765336799849685
Regardless of the truth in DH’s case…border violence is killing innocent people:
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/mexico/gunmen_open_fire_on_employees_of_us_firm_106175443.html
Prayers for the Hartley family.
Ok now this is getting really frustrating.
HOW FAR AWAY WERE THEY WITH THE GUNS? AND WHAT TYPE OF GUNS? I’ve read that TH says a gun was held to her head, then it was 10 feet away, 12 feet away, and now above I read 15 yards, and NOW there is more than one gun, and it’s “machine guns.” Whoo Hooo!!! How much longer is this girl going to continue to spout conflicting stories? And when, oh when, is ANYONE in David’s family or Tiffany’s family or ANY of her friends going to question just one teeny weeny little thing that she’s given conflicting statements on?
Are we in Stepford? It’s not just the wives this time. It’s EVERYONE LIVING THERE.
MOO
Also I’m still really frustrated with the whole jet ski thing.
Whether they actually launched one jet ski or two, somehow the second one disappeared. And NO ONE saw anything? No one saw a launch, no one saw a ski taken back out…..how would TH and DH have known no one would see them? Is there an isolated launch somewhere? Seems they would have launched wherever the truck and trailer were parked, but I don’t know where that is. Did I miss where anyone says they saw anything on this?
@AP–
Your snark will not last here, I can assure you. Resorting to name calling of posters here only weakens your position.
And of course from your political comments, it is obvious you are on “the other side”.
Get the facts straight about the policeman incident. I honor all law enforcement, but I DO NOT honor politicians who exploit their deaths. The police officer made a grave error when he detained the man. He did not do a full body search, the man still had a gun hidden in his waistband AFTER he was placed in the patrol car. Fatal error. I am sorry for his death, but Rick Perry has done NOTHING to help the border issue!
http://drphil.com/videos/?Url=/house/flv/9051_3.flv&background=header_drphil_video.jpg
Her voice cracks just like Misty Croslin’s, IMO.