Murder In Mexico: Tiffany Hartley Endures 16 Hours Of Interviews In David Hartley Death
..” I have nothing to hide. I Have ABSOLUTELY nothing to hide..”
Tiffany Hartley emerged on CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360 yesterday after her 16th hour of interviews at the Mexican Consulate in McAllen, Texas.
Hartley recounted the events of September 30, ending with the alleged murder of her husband David. Ms. Hartley gave both new testimony and confirmed her previous statements according to reports from the Mexican Attorney General and Ms. Hartley herself, without the presence of an attorney.
According to several statements from Hartley, David was shot “off his jet ski” while the couple was returning from the Mexican side of Falcon Lake, where they briefly took pictures of the historic church on Old Guerrerro. Neither David Hartley nor his Sea Doo watercraft have been recovered.
One of the most baffling aspect of the case, is the fact that Ms. Hartley claims the pair were shot at at as they were driving their jet skis away from alleged “pirates” they both waved a friendly hello to, seconds before. Tiffany Hartley was uninjured in the attack, and her jet ski was not hit in the gunfire. Although media was alerted last week that tests on a possible blood source on Tiffany’s life vest were due back that afternoon, we were quickly told there would be no updates about the possible blood evidence at this time.
This afternoon, blinkoncrime Editor spoke with Chuck Smith, owner Smith Marina USA about specifics of the Sea Doo RXT.
..Your correct, the RXT has a chip in the starter that is electronically programmed to “match” the owners lanyard key. If he was wearing the lanyard, whether attached to his vest, or in some cases the arm, and he was thrown off the ski, it activates a kill switch and will not start without the key it is programmed to without a factory reprogramming, which of course, one would need the paperwork for. In short, no matter what, they would need his key to start it.
Blink Question: What if he was not attached to the key, and he was shot and flew off the unit “in motion”, this would not shut the engine off, correct?
CS: Correct. The ski would continue in the direction the handlebars were pointing and continue to throttle in that direction.
Blink: How hard are these models to sink?
CS: Virtually impossible. I have never actually heard of, or seen one, sink to the bottom. The way the Coast Guard standards are now with these, they have hulls similar to boats.
Blink: Could enough bullet holes sink it? What about if the contiuum– could that have caused it to flip? Could anyone right it?
CS: No, not unless we are talking morter rounds. I guess in theory an automatic weapon could put enough holes cut it in half if that was the goal, but again, your still going to see shards of fiberglass all over the water, remnants similar to a boat accident or crash. Again, under these circumstances, I don’t see how he could flip it, but if it were, again, harder to see because the bottom is black, but any SAR or Coast Guard deployment knows what abnormalities to look for on the water surface. It would be next to impossible to “right it” in deep water. It would be more likely they would drag it to shallow water.
Blink: Is this chop-shoppable?
CS: Absolutely. There is some after factory devices, similar to lo jack, but the engine and parts are expensive and could easily be sold that way.
Blink: He was wearing a PFD I. In your opinion is that keeping him afloat until he is located if he was left in the water?
CS: Absolutely, unless it was removed, or he and the vest were removed from the water, he would be floating, yes.
As announced this morning on Dana Pretzer commentary, Blink, Editor In Chief of blinkoncrime.com will be discussing the Hartley case this evening live at 9PM EST on Scared Monkeys The Dana Pretzer Show.
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Mermaid14 says:
October 31, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Regarding voting, my sentiments exactly. I have found through the years that the people who complain the most about government usually don’t vote..(respectfully snipped)
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Mermaid14,
Will Tiffany vote, tomorrow?
There is no reason for her not to vote.
Is she registered in Colorado? Texas?
Elections – Colorado Secretary of StateOctober 27, 2010 – Yesterday was the last day to request a mail ballot by mail for … You can still request a mail ballot online at http://www.GoVoteColorado.com …
http://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/main.htm – Cached
@ Madilu says:
November 1, 2010 at 1:48 am
RE:
“And interestingly NEVER a word about a friend, or friends, or any female companionship or camaraderie(i.e. girls’ night out, etc. =NOTHING). Not one picture of her with girlfriends, or friends or groups of friends -nothing… It was ALL about beach vacations, and David”
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Perhaps that is how David kept her secluded from others & all to himself.. There are men that keep their significant others in that type of a ‘you belong to me only’ bubble..
@S.H. says:
November 1, 2010 at 10:46 am
Monday, November 01, 2010
Deception: Tiffany on Dr. Phil
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/
Monday – November 1, 2010
Behind the Headlines
Plus, the disappearance of David Hartley reads like a murder mystery. His wife, Tiffany, says they were on vacation when David was shot in the head by Mexican pirates while jet skiing. His body was never recovered, and Mexican authorities question if the event really occurred. Some people wonder if Tiffany was involved, but she maintains her innocence. Find out why she declined a lie detector test, and hear Dr. Phil’s strong message for her.
“We launched from Zapata, and we headed to this church that my husband had been researching for several months on the Mexico side. It’s just a historical church, and a year ago, they were holding mass at that church. He wanted to get some pictures before we went back to Colorado the following week.”
snip…
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In an earlier interview & I will have to look for the link but Tiffany said this Sept. trip to the church was actually their second trip they had been there in August also.. Guess they didn’t have the camera then ??? And if they had been living in Mexico for 3 years why not see this church way back then why wait until you are leaving the state if taking these pics was such an issue..
Dr. Phil poll… “Do you believe Tiffany Hartley’s story that her husband was killed by Mexican pirates?”
The poll is on the following page by the article over her “story”
http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/1534/
Be sure to vote!
OMG!!! Is this yet ANOTHER story change? In her interview with Dr. Phil, Tiffany now says that when she left DH behind and rode her jetski toward/past the pirates to escape, they started shooting at her again!!! I don’t remember her ever saying they were shooting again, just chasing her. Did I miss this? And why would they do this anyway, when they were supposedly within 10 feet of her and could have shot her practically point blank! She also says in her Phil interview that (PP) it’s her understanding that they can’t shoot unless the head guy says it’s okay. So they had the gun pointed at her head, couldn’t they just look at the head guy for a signal, Yes/No shoot her? No. They had to ride back over to the other boats and whisper in Spanish, and with all the noise she could hear this.
SHEESH. WHATEVER.
S.H. says:
November 1, 2010 at 12:18 pm
http://drphil.com/videos/?Url=/house/flv/9051_3.flv&background=header_drphil_video.jpg
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Thanks for the link SH. IMO she acts like she may not believe what she is saying. She kind of glances around to try and capture a response before she continues with her thought. Strange.
@ Eloise says:
November 1, 2010 at 4:52 pm
o.k still no real tears during this interview either.. I thought originally she said the boats were behind them which is why David got shot in ‘the back of the head’ (original story)..
If several “boats” firing guns encircled the couple,(Tif and David) how is that he shielded her from oncoming bullets? (or took a bullet for her as she says)
ChiaPet517 says:
November 1, 2010 at 4:42 pm
OMG!!! Is this yet ANOTHER story change? In her interview with Dr. Phil, Tiffany now says that when she left DH behind and rode her jetski toward/past the pirates to escape, they started shooting at her again!!! I don’t remember her ever saying they were shooting again, just chasing her. Did I miss this? And why would they do this anyway, when they were supposedly within 10 feet of her and could have shot her practically point blank! She also says in her Phil interview that (PP) it’s her understanding that they can’t shoot unless the head guy says it’s okay. So they had the gun pointed at her head, couldn’t they just look at the head guy for a signal, Yes/No shoot her? No. They had to ride back over to the other boats and whisper in Spanish, and with all the noise she could hear this.
SHEESH. WHATEVER.
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ChiaPet517,
She was not in the water, this time! She changed that part, Blink did research on the key. TH she must know by now, it is not possible to have one hand on the ski, and roll David over with the other hand, while being in the water.
It my understanding the machine would shut off, if she were in the
water, the key must be attached to her clothing or body, that is the
Falcon Lake LAW! I read the Falcon Lake Park “rules” (web-site) for personal watercraft.
I highly doubt this would have been DH’s choice for a day on the lake. It was a sunny and clear day, no weather issues.
All he needs is a dry dock bag to put his cell phone in and then attach the lanyard.
Those VHF radios have no coolness factor — the 20 and 30 somethings are not going to carry these when they can get the same info and capabilities on an iphone
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S.H. says:
October 31, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Yes, Nana, The “Radio/Cell Phone Charger” charges a cell phone, includes a emergency siren, weather updates, Blinking lights,etc.
I never knew this gadjet, existed, until the subject was brought up about cell phones.
David was never on the water, it is my opinion, because if he were,
he would have been prepared.
(snip)
it has an ALERT function to receive National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration weather warnings(snip)
@Madilu,
Still no tears. Lots of drama but no real tears. Also, typical of people wanting publicity, looks like she’s had somewhat of a makeover. Different hair, different clothes, more jewelry, nails done, the works. Still not buying it.
AP says:
October 31, 2010 at 5:36 pm
SH wrote:
The FBI should check if she had a MAID! I bet she had a maid in Mexico, curious,if in Texas,too? I knew a woman who had a Mexican maid $10.00 a day, watching her four sons. This was thirty years ago in Texas. Who thinks she did any housework?
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Do u have a life SH? You are way too obsessed with this story. Your comments have slowly been heading towards a type of hysteria. I would rather read pro-active comments than reactive comments.
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AP,
LOL, apparently my comments are interesting enough for you to read.
AP- that was personal, not aloud.
SH- don’t engage or you go to you room too, just like my sisters and I.
B
@ChiaPet517:
I think it is entirely possible David’s family knows what happened here. If this is what I think it is, they see it as David and Tiffany acting on behalf of “their country”. Politicians can talk really naive people into going along with all manner of schemes. What is really rotten about it is that the only ones with their asses on the line were David and Tiffany. However, if it is a political scheme, they must have been promised a huge payoff. Plus they may have been chosen because the culprits knew that they knew the lay of the land, the language, the culture, and would be somewhat familiar to the locals. Corporations reward the politicians who sell their souls with big $$$. That’s how so many of them who seemingly have never held a real job, go into politics for life and leave as millionaires. Many of them become millionaires within just a few years.
I would like to also add that don’t anyone think the authorities ever really plan to investigate this. Whenever the origin of a crime is at the highest levels of either state or national government, or big business involving huge corporate dollars, the politicians, big business, and the media close ranks and the campaign of disinformation begins. And boy have they closed ranks on this one. You’ll see them halfheartedly ask questions like “Was this an unhappy wife?”. I include Dr.Phil on this as well. They’ll ask questions then drop the subject, they’ll never follow up. They each take their piece of the media ratings pie, then that’s all they care about. I include all network, and cable news in that.
It doesn’t take much to confuse me, I admit. I have never heard a story change so many times in as many days. What day is it? What is today’s story? She pointed to the front of her head when she said he was shot . . . but wasn’t it in the back of the head. Me very confused. What is more confusing is no journalist seem to be questioning what she says (with the exception of BOC). Why wouldn’t she take a lie detector test? one of those things that makes me go hmmmm.
The poll is ahead in support for TH’s story.
@S.H., we should make a list of how many different versions of the story she has told. Would be an interesting list!!
Why doesn’t LE just get her to draw a diagram of the event (where she was in the water, where the boats were initially, where everyone was after David was shot). Or even better, get some magnets on a magnetic board and label them TH, DH, PB #1, PB #2, PB #3 and then move them gradually to show how the situation progressed. It would be interesting to see which of her stories the diagram/magnet board matches (I still wouldn’t believe it though). MOO
@ChiaPet517 says:
November 1, 2010 at 7:30 pm
re:
Why doesn’t LE just get her to draw a diagram of the event
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Tiffany did a reenactment of that day on the lake for LE about one week ago just prior to packing up her toys to go back to Colorado..
I know I have been pretty hard on the MSM regarding this story and others. Been doing a little backtracking and research this evening about journalists and news men and women. I would like to retract my criticism on behalf of one journalist/anchor/newsman who sadly is no longer with us. That is the late Tim Russert, anchor of NBC’s Meet The Press for a number of years. They didn’t call him bulldog for nothing. This guy went after politicians with a vengeance. He was instrumental in the conviction of Scooter Libby. He had a way of completely disarming cocky politicians with their own words. I saw him do it to John McCain. He made bitter enemies of both Bush and Cheney. His bullshit meter was always spot on. There are even many who think his death was not by natural causes. We’ll never know because just like so many, more questions than answers and a timeline and story that doesn’t add up. Wish he was still around to give his take on this fishy story. Thanks for staying true to your profession Tim,you left us too soon. R.I.P.
My new TIMELINE:
9:00am: Per Tiff, CNN: “And so we decided about 9 o’clock that morning that we would head out there
10:30a -leave home
11:30am – 11:40am: DPS stop (41 miles, ~47 minutes from McAllen)
~12:45 Arrive in Zapata (Rio Grande City to Zapata 53 miles, 57 minutes.
12:45p-2:00p Lunch at Subway + launch + ?? =1 hr 15 minutes
2:00: Per Tiff, CNN: “and around 2, 2:15 we were on the lake and headed that way.” (towards the church)
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2010/10/05/sot.hartley.mexican.pirates.krgv
2:30pm 911 call time: (according to Sigi: http://www.themonitor.com/articles/antonio-43258-san-falcon.html
(Yet Sigi also said at first she called “about 2:20pm”)
(Yet Cox said the shooting happened at 2:45pm)
The biggest thing that strikes me here is that, and Tiff sounded perfectly confident about being on the water heading out at 2 or 2:15, that EVERYTHING happened between 2:00 and 2:30, from start to finish.
Here’s what happened during that (during at the MOST 30 minutes)
-jet ski to church (10 min)- or more, if there in fact was debris in the water as stated *today*, and they went slower/ combo of speed
-take photos (????? -they were not in a panic yet, it was nice weather, this was the object of their day trip
-head back (5-10 min BEFORE approached)
-attack
-circle back, jump off ski, swim to D, pull him to her ski, get up on her ski, try to hoist him up, be confronted with gun in face, drop D, take of = ? minutes
-Ride to shore (5 min)
-park ski/address Good Sam
-call 911
Pretty darn tight if you ask me. Especially if it was more like 2:10 when they got out on the water, and 2:20 when 911 was called. That is just a LOT to have happen in <30 minutes.
http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/waptest/news/zapata-117808-lake-official.html
"According to U.S. authorities, the couple unloaded their two watercraft at a public boat ramp in Zapata County after stopping at a Subway restaurant where a U.S. Border Patrol agent later recalled spotting them.
They rode about one mile to the international boundary — delineated by a series of conspicuous but unmarked concrete pilings positioned at one-mile intervals — and then headed seven miles southeast up the Salado river to the ruins of Old Guerrero.
When the couple was coming back, they realized they were being followed by three boats, according to the account Young-Hartley gave officials."
Thoughts peeps?
AP- that was personal, not aloud.
SH- don’t engage or you go to you room too, just like my sisters and I.
B
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B,
Thank-you for your comment which is tactful, diplomatic and witty
I have too much intelligence to be combative, I apologize.
Yes, I over post. I like details, truth and I don’t like being snowed
by TF or she makes a mockery out of the US.
OT
Let us remember all women Womens Suffage) who were spit on when they marched for voting rights, the least we can do is vote!
Women have only been voting since 1920. I am off to vote!
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1920
Aug. 26
The 19th Amendment to the Constitution, granting women the right to vote, is signed into law by Secretary of State Bainbridge Colby.
Read more: Women’s Rights Movement in the U.S.: Timeline of Events (1848-1920) — Infoplease.com
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/womenstimeline1.html#ixzz147oEHxDT
I am going to vote.
@ Madilu says:
November 2, 2010 at 1:13 am
My new TIMELINE:
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You are good !!!
Thank you for taking the time to put all of that together & you’re right ‘pretty darn tight time line’ if the story is true..
Why all the media interviews, Tiff???
I sincerely hope they are her undoing. If I were grieving the love of my life I wouldn’t be sitting for hair and make-up so I can do yet another interview where I take dramatic license in retelling “my story”. This woman should be talking to law enforcement only. None of us know if she killed David, had a lover kill David, their drug deal went bad, or if David is still alive but whatever it is I don’t think she intended for it to get this big. However, now that it has, she has fallen in love with being in the spotlight.
@Madilu – good job on the timeline. I not only think it’s tight, it seems darn near impossible for all of that to happen in <30 minutes. So they definitely put both jet skis in the water…..what the heck happened in such a small space of time? It doesn't even seem like there was even enough time for them to get to the church and then be chased back. When you think about how far SEVEN MILES into Mexico is on a jetski, that takes a pretty long time, especially if there is ANY choppiness in the water. You're going how fast – 35-40 mph? 50? And consistently going fast on those things without a break takes a lot more energy too, and your hands can get really tired from gripping the steering handles. Wouldn't it seem logical that if they were having a nice day and not in any hurry, they would cruise along and sight-see on the way to the church? Why blast down there as fast as possible? And how could NO ONE see them after the launch for more than seven miles, until supposedly the Pirates saw them? Maybe they went to the Mexico side but just inside the border, and took DH's ski out there somewhere that was pretty deserted. I personally don't believe they ever made it anywhere near the church.
@Mermaid14 – Interesting thoughts on the political front. My problem with this is, how would anyone convince David to play dead permanently for a political cause? I mean, if this is the scenario and they're planning on "rescuing" David or resurrecting him somehow, why would TH be so adament that he was shot in the head and definitely dead (brains falling out, etc.)? How do you recover from a head wound like that and reappear?
All MOO
@Madilu also on your timeline, don’t they have cameras in all restaurants these days? I wonder if there was one in the Subway that would show the exact time TH and DH came in and left? (and it would also verify that it was in fact DH with TH and not some mystery man, so we could put that to rest).
@ChiaPet517 says:
November 2, 2010 at 11:42 am
@Madilu also on your timeline, don’t they have cameras in all restaurants these days? I wonder if there was one in the Subway that would show the exact time TH and DH came in and left? (and it would also verify that it was in fact DH with TH and not some mystery man, so we could put that to rest).
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Especially since at the tag stop by the troopers the driver of the truck never got out of the vehicle so the only one that saw him was the trooper..
@ChiaPet 517,
Your point is excellent, but it’s not like this is the first time something like this has been done. People in trouble politically, legally, and financially have been “disappearing” and re-appearing for many years. Google “Kenneth Lay is alive”. Anybody that thinks that guy is really dead needs to do some research on all the hinky things surrounding his “death”. Like they cremated him within 24 hours. Hinky autopsy stuff, he conveniently dies in Colorado instead of Texas.
People have got to understand that power does what it wants. It owns everything and everybody so there are no consequences and no real investigations. The hasty memorial service for DH was a huge alarm bell that something was amiss. The reason nobody is really grieving is that they know he is not dead.
These two were in serious trouble financially. I read about a trip to Kenya in recent years? Cruises are one thing but a trip like that is going to put you out some serious bucks.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/01/AR2010110106070.html
The Associated Press
Monday, November 1, 2010; 7:55 PM
Service set for man reportedly shot on border lake
FORT COLLINS, Colo. — The family of a man presumed dead after a shooting on a lake on the U.S.-Mexico border plans to hold a memorial service for him in Colorado on Sunday.
The service for 30-year-old David Hartley, who grew up in Loveland, will be held in Fort Collins.
Hartley’s wife, Tiffany, says he was shot on the Mexican side of Falcon Lake on Sept. 30 while the two were sightseeing on Jet Skis. She says she tried to drag her husband’s body onto her watercraft but had to retreat to the U.S. side of the lake as bullets whizzed by her.
Authorities have not yet found Hartley’s body. Officials in Zapata County, Texas, and Mexico are investigating the case.
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snip..
The trooper can be heard asking, “Where you headed to?”
David Hartley replies, “Out to Falcon”
The trooper says, “To Falcon?”
David says, “Yeah.”
The trooper says, “Going jet skiing for the day, or what?”
David can be heard saying, “Yeah, I figure we’ll play around for a bit.”
Johnny Hernandez, of the Texas Department of Public Safety, told CBS News, “It proves that they were together. That they were en route to Falcon Lake to enjoy the day.”
Tiffany said on “The Early Show,” the border patrol saw the couple several times on their way to the lake.”
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“Wolfpack” mentioned a RUMOR that the man with Tiff was not her husband, AT the lake.
@ S.H. says:
November 2, 2010 at 7:01 pm
too bad the trooper at the tag stop didn’t tell the driver of the truck to get out of the vehicle & step away from the vehicle..
Yet another memorial service for David Hartley?? I thought they already had one. Why another one???
Why a memorial service?
IMO – Tiffany is a very impatient person,she wants “to get on with her life”.
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Tia Young, Aurora, Colorado: Facebook “Wall” information.
Tia Young David Hartley’s Memorial Service will be November 7th at 2:00pm at Timberline Church in Ft. Collins Co. 2908 S Timberline Rd Ft collins Co 80525.
I still say the Mexican LE should look for the cleaning maid, or the grounds keeper, lawn man, water fountain keeper, etc. at both their homes. I don’t know if she had a maid, I would:)
I read that no formal complain has been filed in Texas regarding
David Hartley, IDK what that means if anything, if true.
nana2 says:
November 2, 2010 at 8:19 pm
@ S.H. says:
November 2, 2010 at 7:01 pm
too bad the trooper at the tag stop didn’t tell the driver of the truck to get out of the vehicle & step away from the vehicle..
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Nana2,
Yes, that is a good point.
It appears the curious officer did take a few minutes to throw a fews questions out to David, to feel him out.
David, disappeared, between Sub Way and the Falcon Lake, if the rumor is true, that the man seen with her was not her husband, again, I am speculating, only, upon a rumor.
Wolfpack seems to have clear, concise and crisp information from his
side of Dodge:)
Statement Analysis
Wednesday, November 03, 2010
Tiffany Hartley Fundraising
Shedding light as to the reasoning of the media blitz that has been going on since a few days after reporting her husband was shot by Mexican pirates, is Tiffany Hartley seeking money?
A website has gone up:
bringdavidhome.com in which donations are being solicited.
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/11/tiffany-hartley-fundraising.html
@SH
No formal complaint has been filed because anybody with half a brain has figured out this is some sort of scam. If this was real you can bet the powers that be would be all over it and it would be on the books. They would have to have “disappeared” David Hartley somewhere before TH was in the lake for the story to fly. Has anyone done voice analysis on the Sheriff stop? There is video which shows nothing, but there is also audio.
I also find it odd that the Sheriff deputy or whoever did the stop that day did not ask at least the driver to exit the vehicle. With all the drugs, border killings etc., that is the least they should have done. Could they have been in on this too?
Just visited the bring David home website. There is a photo there of him going fishing, he is holding a fish with his left hand and you can plainly see that he is indeed wearing a ring on his left hand while fishing. You cannot get a glimple of left ring finger in any of the other photos. What do you want to bet that photo gets removed soon. I don’t believe for a minute he left his ring in the car or at home. How could she be wearing his ring?
@ S.H
When you have the chance go back onto the link you provided http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/11/tiffany-hartley-fundraising.html & read the comments from someone named ‘Sarah’ posted today & her reference to the blog called ‘Borderland Beat’ (they are also on Facebook)..
This Borderland Beat blog is also a link on the http://www.bringdavidhome.com web site..
Also as to my reference about the tag stop & DH not getting out of the truck we only have the troopers word (?) that it was DH ..
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118159&page=10
Poster 229
It was created back on 10/8/10…..I guess before she “REALLY” understood the cartels…..
BRINGDAVIDHOME.COM WHOIS
Updated: 6 seconds ago
Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: BRINGDAVIDHOME.COM
Created on: 08-Oct-10
Expires on: 08-Oct-11
Last Updated on: 22-Oct-10
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Tiffany Hartley just posted on her new website that she will be on Good Morning America tomorrow, Nov. 4.
I don’t see any links to $$ donations on the site, however I am sure that is coming. I am also sure she was given fair warning by someone that she has to account for the money in order to solicit donations online.
On that Seamus Oreilly website, the vote count now for whether TH is lying is 93% who feel she is not telling the truth. That number has come up considerably since the last few surveys.
http://www.myspace.com/angelasandy
Angie Sandy
32 / Female
Colorado, US
I wonder if this is “angie sandy” domain name that set up the “Bring Home David” page? Just asking.
@Mermaid14 says:
November 3, 2010 at 11:45 am
Just visited the bring David home website. There is a photo there of him going fishing, he is holding a fish with his left hand and you can plainly see that he is indeed wearing a ring on his left hand while fishing. You cannot get a glimple of left ring finger in any of the other photos. What do you want to bet that photo gets removed soon. I don’t believe for a minute he left his ring in the car or at home. How could she be wearing his ring?
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I went back onto the site to try & blow up the pic to get a better look at his left hand but the site is Copyright protected & it won’t let you do a right click on the pic but I can see some type of a ring on his left hand..
http://www.facebook.com/angiesandy#!/angiesandy
Angela Lynn Sandy or Angie Sandy.
Nikki Hartley is her friend among hundreds of others.
Did she create the page for David Hartley, which is under construction? $$$
Angela Lynn Sandy, intelius: Fort Collins, Loveland, Milliken, Johnstown, Co.
One of the comments on the Seamus O’Riley website indicated they had been looking up Mexican death certificates for USA citizens..
When I looked that up I came up with these sites with varied info:
What is a Foreign Death Certificate?
A Foreign Death Certificate:
* Is issued by the local authority, often the registrar of deaths.
* Is written in the local language and prepared according to local laws.
* May not be accepted in the U.S. for insurance and estate purposes.
http://travel.state.gov/travel/tips/emergencies/emergencies_1204.html
http://www.travel.state.gov/law/family_issues/death/death_596.html
http://merida.usconsulate.gov/merida/deaths.html
Mermaid14 says:
November 3, 2010 at 11:53 am
snipped
Tiffany Hartley just posted on her new website that she will be on Good Morning America tomorrow, Nov. 4.
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I really don’t want to hear her opinion on any of the election results- I sincerely hope she keeps the topic on David.
Also on the Seamus O’Riley site this comment was left by someone with the user name of IBMMuseum regarding the BringDavidHome.com site:
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“Tiffany’s friend Angie Sandy created this page. Angie’s husband Mitch, worked with David at Calfrac Well Services.”
Also according to the Seamus O’Riley site this friend Angie Sandy is a professional photographer which might explain all those fantastic pics & action shots of David & Tiff with their ‘toys’..
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/11/tiffany-hartley-fundraising.html
Angie Sandy removed her friends from FB. Wow.
We are getting Hot! IMO
S.H. says:
November 3, 2010 at 1:02 pm
http://www.facebook.com/angiesandy#!/angiesandy
Angela Lynn Sandy or Angie Sandy.
Nikki Hartley is her friend among hundreds of others.
Did she create the page for David Hartley, which is under construction? $$$
Angela Lynn Sandy, intelius: Fort Collins, Loveland, Milliken, Johnstown, Co.
nana2 says:
Mermaid14 says:
November 3, 2010 at 10:59 am
@SH
No formal complaint has been filed because anybody with half a brain has figured out this is some sort of scam. If this was real you can bet the powers that be would be all over it and it would be on the books. They would have to have “disappeared” David Hartley somewhere before TH was in the lake for the story to fly. Has anyone done voice analysis on the Sheriff stop? There is video which shows nothing, but there is also audio.
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Mermaid14,
My half of brain figured it out!
I think his sister is on the scam too, IMO.
Her friend set-up the donation web-site that is under
construction. Why would the sister approve of a website accepting donations and for what? The website is strangely under construction.
S.H. says:
November 3, 2010 at 1:02 pm
http://www.facebook.com/angiesandy#!/angiesandy
Angela Lynn Sandy or Angie Sandy.
Nikki Hartley is her friend among hundreds of others.
Did she create the page for David Hartley, which is under construction? $$$
Angela Lynn Sandy, intelius: Fort Collins, Loveland, Milliken, Johnstown, Co
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Her FB is not longer available. Wow!
Wonder if there is a way to contact Good Morning America. Maybe we could drive them crazy telling them about the inconsistancies and asking them tomorrow actually question her.us Maybe someone local to GMA filming could make a sign and stand there outside with it.us Do they talk to the crowd outside like on the Today show? just trying to think of a way to get someone to actually question her. Doesn’t any MSM want to be the one to break her? I thought it was about ratings and readership. Wouldn’t an exclusive like that garner some attention?