Murder In Mexico: Tiffany Hartley Endures 16 Hours Of Interviews In David Hartley Death
..” I have nothing to hide. I Have ABSOLUTELY nothing to hide..”
Tiffany Hartley emerged on CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360 yesterday after her 16th hour of interviews at the Mexican Consulate in McAllen, Texas.
Hartley recounted the events of September 30, ending with the alleged murder of her husband David. Ms. Hartley gave both new testimony and confirmed her previous statements according to reports from the Mexican Attorney General and Ms. Hartley herself, without the presence of an attorney.
According to several statements from Hartley, David was shot “off his jet ski” while the couple was returning from the Mexican side of Falcon Lake, where they briefly took pictures of the historic church on Old Guerrerro. Neither David Hartley nor his Sea Doo watercraft have been recovered.
One of the most baffling aspect of the case, is the fact that Ms. Hartley claims the pair were shot at at as they were driving their jet skis away from alleged “pirates” they both waved a friendly hello to, seconds before. Tiffany Hartley was uninjured in the attack, and her jet ski was not hit in the gunfire. Although media was alerted last week that tests on a possible blood source on Tiffany’s life vest were due back that afternoon, we were quickly told there would be no updates about the possible blood evidence at this time.
This afternoon, blinkoncrime Editor spoke with Chuck Smith, owner Smith Marina USA about specifics of the Sea Doo RXT.
..Your correct, the RXT has a chip in the starter that is electronically programmed to “match” the owners lanyard key. If he was wearing the lanyard, whether attached to his vest, or in some cases the arm, and he was thrown off the ski, it activates a kill switch and will not start without the key it is programmed to without a factory reprogramming, which of course, one would need the paperwork for. In short, no matter what, they would need his key to start it.
Blink Question: What if he was not attached to the key, and he was shot and flew off the unit “in motion”, this would not shut the engine off, correct?
CS: Correct. The ski would continue in the direction the handlebars were pointing and continue to throttle in that direction.
Blink: How hard are these models to sink?
CS: Virtually impossible. I have never actually heard of, or seen one, sink to the bottom. The way the Coast Guard standards are now with these, they have hulls similar to boats.
Blink: Could enough bullet holes sink it? What about if the contiuum– could that have caused it to flip? Could anyone right it?
CS: No, not unless we are talking morter rounds. I guess in theory an automatic weapon could put enough holes cut it in half if that was the goal, but again, your still going to see shards of fiberglass all over the water, remnants similar to a boat accident or crash. Again, under these circumstances, I don’t see how he could flip it, but if it were, again, harder to see because the bottom is black, but any SAR or Coast Guard deployment knows what abnormalities to look for on the water surface. It would be next to impossible to “right it” in deep water. It would be more likely they would drag it to shallow water.
Blink: Is this chop-shoppable?
CS: Absolutely. There is some after factory devices, similar to lo jack, but the engine and parts are expensive and could easily be sold that way.
Blink: He was wearing a PFD I. In your opinion is that keeping him afloat until he is located if he was left in the water?
CS: Absolutely, unless it was removed, or he and the vest were removed from the water, he would be floating, yes.
As announced this morning on Dana Pretzer commentary, Blink, Editor In Chief of blinkoncrime.com will be discussing the Hartley case this evening live at 9PM EST on Scared Monkeys The Dana Pretzer Show.
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I’m feeling a little snarky today. All it would have taken is a simple polygraph, so why WON’T Tiffany submit to one if she has “absolutely nothing to hide?” I read her recent FB posts and I can’t believe the poor grammar and spelling. If you’re going to solicit for Border Control funds and/or action from our government or anyone else and you want to be taken seriously, you should make sure your web page verbiage is bang-on. The incomplete sentences are annoying. The constant misuse of the word “there” that should be “their” and “it’s” when it should be “its” leads me to believe TH made extremely poor grades in English, or she somehow pulled off good grades but didn’t learn anyhing. D’oh!!!! MOO
S.H.,
Thank you for acknowledging my comment. I didn’t realize that she had made that statement about going on with their own life. Interesting.
If LE/FBI now believe that David disappeared on his own, we may not hear any more about this case, since it’s not illegal for an adult to take off. What has taken place since his disappearance (the whole TF hoopla), may be morally wrong, but I don’t know if, legally, any more can be done – unless drug charges, or other, are still pending.
If this is the case, how does TH accepting donations fit in? She may be OK if LE cannot prove she was an accomplice to David leaving.
As someone noted earlier the elections are over & the silence from TH is now deafening.. Soon TH will quietly ride off into the sunset to meet up with her hubby at an undisclosed safe house unnoticed by all..
Ok don’t laugh!!! In that last comment that was a TYPO! Not a grammar or misspelling error!!! Argh!!!
-Loca says:
November 23, 2010 at 4:15 pm
S.H.,
Thank you for acknowledging my comment. I did not realize that she had made that statement about going on with their own life. Interesting.
If LE/FBI now believe that David disappeared on his own, we may not hear any more about this case, since it’s not illegal for an adult to take off. What has taken place since his disappearance (the whole TF hoopla), may be morally wrong, but I don’t know if, legally, any more can be done – unless drug charges, or other, are still pending.
If this is the case, how does TH accepting donations fit in? She may be OK if LE cannot prove she was an accomplice to David leaving
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Loca,
It took five years to locate Patrick Kim McDermott, I agree, it will
may be awhile for more on D.H.
The investigators located Patrick through a clever technique.
They created a webpage,http://www.findpatrickmcdermott.com/ curious,Patrick, logged on to the site, and investigators traced him down to a laptop on a boat. That is how Patrick was nailed:)
Perhaps, when the book comes out the technique will be better explained. I believe Patrick made a bank withdrawal, that may have been a clue. The public is not aware of any clues for D.H.
O.T.
(Patrick Kim McDermott)
Olivia Newton-John’s Ex-Boyfriend: I’m Alive, Now Stop Looking for Me
http://www.popeater.com/2010/04/02/olivia-newton-john-patrick-kim-mcdermott-found/
O.T.
Blink,
I hope you won’t mind me posting the information on how PM was located. The Technique is so cool, scary, but cool.
+++++++++++
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/4365293/Olivia-Newton-Johns-missing-ex-boyfriend-Patrick-McDermott-found-via-internet.html
PATRICK McDERMOTT
11:58PM GMT 27 Jan 2009
A team of US investigators have said they used the website findpatrickmcdermott.com to track him down.
Actress Olivia Newton-John photographed with her boyfriend Patrick Mcdermott before he disappeared They allege Mr McDermott has been regularly logging on to the site, developed by the team as a high-tech trap. They now claim he is on a boat travelling along the Mexico coastline to South America.
“When you’re running you always are looking over your shoulder and we’re going to catch him looking at us. The most interesting hits have come directly from Cabo San Lucas (in Mexico), the last place anybody saw Patrick McDermott,” investigator Philip Klein said.
READ ABOVE.
That freaking skeeve.
B
Tiffany will be on Inside Edition Nov 26th channel 7 at 9:00am per her sister’s FB.
Blink,
I apologize in advance, I do not mean to take the investigation of
David Hartley in a difference direction. My purpose is to show how
no one can disappear, for very long.
The video clip shows the boat that Mr. McDermott disappeared from and a few comments on Paticks personality. I wish him peace.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28844965/ns/dateline_nbc-newsmakers
I wish him peace, but I think he is a skeeve for what he did.
B
Definitely a skeeve…I understand people who want to drop off….especially if they have any type of celebrity status. But the money it took to search for him the hours of peoples time that was wasted. The worry of those who cared for him. He is self-centered and inconsiderate.
I hope he has peace and peace to the people whose lives he disrupted.
WISHING EVERYONE HERE PEACE THIS HOLIDAY SEASON!
I wish him peace, but I think he is a skeeve for what he did.
B
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Yes, he is a skunk and a skeeve. I know he did not kill anyone, physically, he certainly damaged his son’s ego, beyond repair, IMO.
When I make a major decision, I ask myself, can live with this?
After, I ponder, how it would affect me or others, I usually forget the decision. We all have to face ourselfs in the mirror:)
lapis says:
November 25, 2010 at 4:05 am
Tiffany will be on Inside Edition Nov 26th channel 7 at 9:00am per her sister’s FB.
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Thank-you Lapis, I did not see her interview, I was watching an interview with the late great, Alfred Hitchcock and Dick Cavett.
Did you watch her? I am interested why do you think Tiffany
did this interview? TIA
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Airdate: 11/26/2010 “I had to leave David behind in order to save my own life,” says Tiffany Hartley.
Every day, she relives the terrifying moment she and her husband were attacked by pirates.
“It was the hardest, the worst, decision anybody ever would have to make and I had to leave. I knew I had to leave,” Tiffany told INSIDE EDITION.
The Hartleys were riding jet skis on Falcon Lake, which straddles the Texas-Mexico border, and exploring a half-submerged mission chapel.
David was shot in the head and his body was never recovered. Tiffany managed to escape and she called 911.
911 Operator: “Are you sure that your husband got shot?”
Tiffany Hartley: “Yes! In his head! He was thrown off the jet ski and I couldn’t pick him up to get him on mine.”
“What do you say to people who to this day question your story?” INSIDE EDITION’s Paul Boyd asked Tiffany.
“If they don’t want to believe what happened, that’s their choice. If they want to judge me, that’s their choice. Ultimately I don’t care,” she said.
Tiffany and David were high school sweethearts and married when Tiffany was just 20 years old.
On her first Thanksgiving weekend without him, Tiffany is struggling to start a new life. Paul Boyd visited her in Colorado, where the couple’s love first blossomed.
“Everywhere I go, every street I go on, there’s some memory of the two of us,” Tiffany said.
She clings to Tori, the dog they both loved.
http://www.insideedition.com/news/5403/tiffany-hartley-talks-about-husband-killed-by-mexican-pirates.aspx
I am $peechless. Is this Border Security?
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2010 Greeley shoppers flock to stores for holiday bargains
By Chris Casey
ccasey@greeleytribune.com
Tia Young of Greeley put plenty of mileage on her sneakers for her first Black Friday experience Friday morning.
“We started at Target and then went to Kohl’s and now Best Buy, and then we’re headed home,” Young said.
Tiffany Hartley, who joined Young on the early excursion to CenterPlace Shopping Center in Greeley, said, “It’s a new experience for us.”
http://www.greeleytribune.com/article/20101126/NEWS/711269999/1002
Logic – TH is such a self-centered personality, it makes it difficult to judge which scenario could be the correct one. If he’s really dead, she’s self-centered enough to have planned it with someone in order to collect/split whatever money is made off his death. If he’s alive, she’s self-centered enough to live without him for a long time if necessary, maybe for good, in order to collect whatever money is made of his “death.” And either way, she shows no emotion over him and sticks to her deadpan look in every interview. She has absolutely no problem living without him. It will be interesting to see how she “moves on” with her life. All MOO.
S.H. says:
November 27, 2010 at 10:20 am
I am $peechless. Is this Border Security?
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2010 Greeley shoppers flock to stores for holiday bargains
By Chris Casey
ccasey@greeleytribune.com
Tia Young of Greeley put plenty of mileage on her sneakers for her first Black Friday experience Friday morning.
“We started at Target and then went to Kohl’s and now Best Buy, and then we’re headed home,” Young said.
Tiffany Hartley, who joined Young on the early excursion to CenterPlace Shopping Center in Greeley, said, “It’s a new experience for us.”
http://www.greeleytribune.com/article/20101126/NEWS/711269999/1002
Really? How does she do it? I am not begrudging her for taking part in Black Friday, but sheesh, she gets media attention for that too?? She is a master at getting her name in print. How DOES she do it?
@ Saxey says:
Really? How does she do it? I am not begrudging her for taking part in Black Friday, but sheesh, she gets media attention for that too?? She is a master at getting her name in print. How DOES she do it?
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She probably called Kate Gosselin & got some media tips from her (meow, meow)..
Guess the shopping trip took away the loss of hubby but it sure doesn’t take much to ease her loss..
Her interview with Inside Edition was the same ole blah, blah. The only mention of border security, was at the end when the host said she will be spending her time promoting it. Oh and also, doing what David would want her too. Traveling….$$$$$$$$…check’s in the mail? Ka–ching. SNARK.
She is without emotion, imo. Monotone and cold as clay.
ChiaPet517 says:
November 27, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Logic – TH is such a self-centered personality, it makes it difficult to judge which scenario could be the correct one. If he’s really dead, she’s self-centered enough to have planned it with someone in order to collect/split whatever money is made off his death. If he’s alive, she’s self-centered enough to live without him for a long time if necessary, maybe for good, in order to collect whatever money is made of his “death.” And either way, she shows no emotion over him and sticks to her deadpan look in every interview. She has absolutely no problem living without him. It will be interesting to see how she “moves on” with her life. All MOO.
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IDK, Chia, I am more focused on the sneaky-looking sister:)
The Sis posted a money link on her FB on the first week of October.
The (Sneaky-looking)sisters, were shopping at 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning (the day after Thanksgiving), gives me the heebie-jeebie’s.
I know everyone, grieves, differently, but, shopping until you drop, is not grieving.
My opinions.
nana2 says:
November 27, 2010 at 7:48 pm
@ Saxey says:
Really? How does she do it? I am not begrudging her for taking part in Black Friday, but sheesh, she gets media attention for that too?? She is a master at getting her name in print. How DOES she do it?
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Nana,
Do you think she called the press to catch her shopping? Or..did someone else, tip-off the press? She is silly enough to call for attention, but, I am not sure, if they want the IRS keeping track of what they are spending. LOL
Makes one wonder whose money she is spending. She still is not employed, and no insurance claim yet,so the only thing left is the money collected off the internet.
Did anyone listen to Peter Hyatt’s 30 minute radio program?
Guest’s of Peter’s were Susan Murphy Milano and Denny Griffin.
Susan said “DH insurance policy was Double Indemnity” (if I heard correctly) she mentioned that she had two sources, but the program is so rushed through, I don’t think she finished up her sentence.
Did TH appear on TV to reassure a boyfriend of what’s going on? IMO.
This is speculation on my part, she appeared so many times, on the
tube, for what reason? Is this how she keeps the BF updated?
I am not longer puzzled. I am going with she is a merry widow.
My Opinions.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peter-hyatt/2010/11/28/the-peter-hyatt-show
Maybe she did collect on the insurance money already. It’s been two months.
We have heard nothing from his family in quite awhile. I wonder how they are doing and continue to have the same mindset?
Correct me if I’m wrong here. If DH’s life insurance policy is Double Indemnity, then that’s not an advantage for TH. The definition I looked up says “Double indemnity is a clause or provision in a life insurance or accident policy whereby the company agrees to pay the stated multiple (i.e. double) of the face amount in the contract in cases of accidental death. An accidental death is a death that is neither intentionally caused by a human being, such as murder or suicide, nor from natural causes, such as cancer or heart disease.” So since this is supposedly a murder, TH would NOT get double the amount, correct?
ChiaPet517 says:
November 28, 2010 at 10:42 pm
Correct me if I’m wrong here. If DH’s life insurance policy is Double Indemnity, then that’s not an advantage for TH. The definition I looked up says “Double indemnity is a clause or provision in a life insurance or accident policy whereby the company agrees to pay the stated multiple (i.e. double) of the face amount in the contract in cases of accidental death. An accidental death is a death that is neither intentionally caused by a human being, such as murder or suicide, nor from natural causes, such as cancer or heart disease.” So since this is supposedly a murder, TH would NOT get double the amount, correct?
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Correct. I also looked Double Indemnity, too. IDK, why the guest pointed out that detail.
The Guest did confirm that Mexico is investigating, but Mexico is not talking about the case. They will solve this puzzle.
I wonder if she did this for love and not for money? She was not planning on leaving TX until she was spooked out. I like B’s word
spooked.
Just curious, does the sister Tia have a job?? So she is collecting money off of the “incident” also??? How can she do that?? What is their tax exempt status?? If they are tax exempt there is no way they can legally take the money collected and spend it on themselves. They’re not even supposed to do that if they are not tax exempt. Somebody needs to be investigating where this money is going. So is David’s family still going along for this ride??
Latest TH post on her website another treasure trove of read between the lines. IMO it is a superficial sappy rambling designed to continue the story line and make everyone realize how “sad” she is. Of course she doesn’t mention that right after the Thanksgiving sadness she goes shopping at 3 a.m. More Godspeak complete with verses and notation. Were they not aware that they were being written up in the local Colorado paper doing this middle of the night shopping? Did the reporter from the paper know who they were?
Mermaid14 says:
November 29, 2010 at 12:50 am
Just curious, does the sister Tia have a job?? So she is collecting money off of the “incident” also??? How can she do that?? What is their tax exempt status?? If they are tax exempt there is no way they can legally take the money collected and spend it on themselves. They’re not even supposed to do that if they are not tax exempt. Somebody needs to be investigating where this money is going. So is David’s family still going along for this ride??
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Mermaid,
The sister was or is a babysitter, from what I have read.
The ATM or Debit card, is recorded, the IRS or Government will know what they spend.
They need to declare money to the IRS, what they earned, now, if this is gift or donation money; I think they would need to keep a tight account of receipts.
They may have already have an Accountant or Lawyer, to cross the T’s and dot the I’s, Perhaps, the Minister, LOL! IMO.
I believe, TY, had a address for donations, (I think) Oct. 7th or 8th, if this was preplanned, I find these two, eerie, almost, like aAlfred Hitchcock movie. IMO.
OMG her 4th grade grammar drives me crazy. In her latest on bringdavidhome.com, she says David would say “he eat to much” – last time I checked, past tense should be “he ATE” and “to much” should be “too much”. Really? She’s 29, a high school graduate, and she doesn’t know “to” from “too?” And the other posts “there” and “their”? She needs to either go back to school or stop posting – actually she needs to do both. Yikes.
And this 3 a.m. shopping with not a care in the world….what woman would feel like a shop-till-you-drop spree at several stores after witnessing her husband’s murder/brains blown out in front of her just a few short weeks ago? And still no body? No one accountable?
Ai-yi-yi.
LAJ mentions the H’s, stopped in RGC and ate,(Rio Grande City, TX).
I found three sandwich shops in RCG. The comment below is not mine, I am trying to understand the H’s route. Where did David disappear from, in such a short time?
LAJ also mentions the Jet Ski’s would need to be registered? Does that depend on what launch was used?
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/mexico/tiffany_hartley_says_its_time_to_go_home_105362188.html
LAJ12:12 PM
It is not being insensitive to question this woman. Those of us who experinece these cartels daily know their routine. Also, she was stopped in RGC, ate at subway and then made the call 3 hours later. OK…RGC to Falcon is 1 hour. Subway…30 minutes. That leaves 1 1/2 to register the jetskis, park, get them off the truck and take off to site see in Guerrero….take pictures and then take off again. It doesn’t add up. And everyone (including FBI) is questioning her story.
For the record, in one of the Greta interviews with TH and David’s sister, it is pretty obvious by the questions G is asking that she is not buying the story, and she mentions to TH that alot of people are questioning her story including law enforcement in Mexico.
If that were my brother killed, I know I would resent the hell out of his widow wanting to be constantly in the news, and especially the middle of the night shopping.
Number of I,me,mys in TH latest post………..17. That’s up from the one before.
@ S.H., that S.A. News article also plays up the “blood evidence” found on TH’s vest, which we all know now was non existent. They keep talking about all these Congressmen and government agencies that TH is raising money for and has been in constant contact with. I’d like to see some evidence of that. She has spent most of her time arranging memorials, going on talk shows, and blogging. She’s telling all of “us” in that article to contact our Congressmen. Wonder how much time she has actually spent doing that. They were all over it right before the election whoring for votes, now that it isn’t front page news anymore where’s Perry,Gonzalez, and the rest?
There are still a few decent ones on the issue like Ted Poe and John Culberson from the Houston area, but all the original fear mongers seem to have left the stage.
Mermaid14 says:
November 29, 2010 at 9:04 pm
@ S.H., that S.A. News article also plays up the “blood evidence” found on TH’s vest, which we all know now was non existent. They keep talking about all these Congressmen and government agencies that TH is raising money for and has been in constant contact with. I’d like to see some evidence of that. She has spent most of her time arranging memorials, going on talk shows, and blogging. She’s telling all of “us” in that article to contact our Congressmen. Wonder how much time she has actually spent doing that. They were all over it right before the election whoring for votes, now that it isn’t front page news anymore where’s Perry,Gonzalez, and the rest?
There are still a few decent ones on the issue like Ted Poe and John Culberson from the Houston area, but all the original fear mongers seem to have left the stage.
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Mermaid,
Perhaps, the results are in on the vest, is this a Chess game? The culprits have passports, no one wants them to flea.
If I understood Spanish, I would search for a blog in Spanish.:)
Mermaid, where did David disappear to? The sandwich shop was a half
hour away from the boat ramp.
A Blinkster, mentioned (rumor) David was not the person at the Lake.
How did she get rid of DH (so quickly) between a sandwich and the trip
to the boat ramp. Which boat ramp with houses?
Mermaid14 says:
November 29, 2010 at 12:50 am
Just curious, does the sister Tia have a job?? So she is collecting money off of the “incident” also??? How can she do that?? What is their tax exempt status?? If they are tax exempt there is no way they can legally take the money collected and spend it on themselves. They’re not even supposed to do that if they are not tax exempt. Somebody needs to be investigating where this money is going. So is David’s family still going along for this ride??
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Maybe TH & the family got an advance on a book/movie deal.. Just guessing..
@ S.H.
I might be able to help out with that Spanish blog thing. There are translation services on all the major sites like Yahoo and Bing.
I stand by my original thought that the police pullover was staged. There was a reason no one got out of that truck. I am not even convinced it was David inside. The man’s voice was very deep, that stood out. Does anyone have a voice video of David talking for comparison sake?
nana2 says:
November 30, 2010 at 9:38 am
Mermaid14 says:
November 29, 2010 at 12:50 am
Just curious, does the sister Tia have a job?? So she is collecting money off of the “incident” also??? How can she do that?? What is their tax exempt status?? If they are tax exempt there is no way they can legally take the money collected and spend it on themselves. They’re not even supposed to do that if they are not tax exempt. Somebody needs to be investigating where this money is going. So is David’s family still going along for this ride??
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Maybe TH & the family got an advance on a book/movie deal.. Just guessing
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Would you need a beginning, a middle, and an ending, for a script?
They may have had a Christmas Club. This is the first year for these
two, shopping on a Black Friday, at 4:00am. This is not a traditional
family shopping day:) This is the first experence since that acquired
some dough. IMO.
Mermaid14 says:
November 30, 2010 at 2:32 pm
@ S.H.
I might be able to help out with that Spanish blog thing. There are translation services on all the major sites like Yahoo and Bing.
I stand by my original thought that the police pullover was staged. There was a reason no one got out of that truck. I am not even convinced it was David inside. The man’s voice was very deep, that stood out. Does anyone have a voice video of David talking for comparison sake?
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I am with you on that one. I question if he was eating with her, too.
The Border Guards saw David and Tiffany, or did they see a truck, with
a trailer with Jet Ski’s, a guy with a cap and Tiffany?
David did not fall in a big hole. This is amazing how ingenius
criminal’s can be. Where could David have gone to? There just must
be video, somewhere, with him or her recorded. We just don’t know.
O.T.
There is a book “Patrick McDermott”, I understand a book will be out. The investigators found Patrick ,so the book will have conclusion.
I don’t think Tiffy can sell a story, when no when believes she is telling the truth. IMO. I mean no one, no one, believes her story.
Mermaid,
Thank-God for the transations services, some are free and some are not. Here I go looking for Spanish Blogs! I will need a few key
Spanish words, first.
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I am not Iva, she thought of a good idea.
Iva started a FB page Bring “David Hartley Justice”!
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=2228970039927110855
iva said…
HI ALL!
I started a facebook group titled Bring David Hartley Justice
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_136440849745040
Maybe we can round up a ton of members and get the word out, lets see!
Please Join!!
@ S.H. says:
November 30, 2010 at 3:27 pm
O.T.
I don’t think Tiffy can sell a story, when no when believes she is telling the truth. IMO. I mean no one, no one, believes her story.
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That’s what Hollywood & Lifetime TV Movies are all about ‘fantasy’, all a screenwriter needs is a plot & someone to produce it..
@ S.H. says:
Would you need a beginning, a middle, and an ending, for a script?
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Did you ever see an Alfred Hitchcock movie ?
Known for their unique story lines & endings (?)
S.H. you mentioned the FBI is checking out her story…do you know that for sure? I would love it if they were….they’re not stupid. They will figure this out and if he’s alive they will find him (I’m not so sure they will find him if he’s dead). If he’s alive then she’s already committed crimes – lying to the FBI and everyone else and causing them to spend countless hours on this investigation – I would imagine they would find a way to prosecute her for that.
SH.. If you use Google Chrome, the option to translate pages will come up automatically.
@S.H., OMG, not easy doing the cut and paste translation, very time consuming. Tried a few but really did not learn much.
Here is a fact that has been bugging me for a long time. Ok, cops stop T and D on the U.S. side of Falcon Lake. They are hauling 2 jetskis with Mexican license plates.
Hello?? What with the border, drug issues, and the known fact that Falcon Lake was a hotbed of cartel activity, why were the jetskis not impounded???
That’s why I say the whole video looks like a putup job to me. You’ve got 3 or 4 cops circling that vehicle time and again, writing down info, staring at those jetskis. Why take the chance that these two could be working for one of the cartels? It’s not unheard of.
This is what I am talking about when I say they are NOT protecting our borders!!! And Tiffany is going to holler no border protection??They had every right to impound not only the jetskis, but to take the two in the vehicle in for questioning based on reasonable suspicion.
Anybody that lived near that area would know that having Mexican license plates on jetskis would be a huge red flag. Doesn’t matter whether they used to live there or not. Fact is, they no longer lived in Mexico.
Am I crazy? Isn’t this just basic law enforcement? So, they don’t get shaken down because they are white??? That makes me even more angry!
If the FBI is really checking out her story I want some answers as to why those jetskis were not impounded! Instead of protecting our borders all that LE has done is use this video to say, See! TH is telling the truth, they really were at the lake, see, here’s the jetskis on video,see, here’s David driving the truck, thereby ignoring the obvious. This is why all the military in the world will not help this border situation one iota. We either have total incompetence in those officers or complicity, it has to be one or the other.
ChiaPet517 says:
November 30, 2010 at 6:13 pm
S.H. you mentioned the FBI is checking out her story…do you know that for sure? I would love it if they were….they’re not stupid. They will figure this out and if he’s alive they will find him (I’m not so sure they will find him if he’s dead). If he’s alive then she’s already committed crimes – lying to the FBI and everyone else and causing them to spend countless hours on this investigation – I would imagine they would find a way to prosecute her for that.
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Hi ChiaPet,
My face know nothing. I lifted the comment from the San Antonio newspaper because I am so curious.
“Packleader” helpfully, told us, that the Feds “were doing what they do”(I understood) Lake Falcon, this was a few weeks, ago. I do not
have any confirmation on anything, my guess is a quite a few people are stirring the pot.
I suggested to “Iva” to post a Spanish page. so Mexicans could respond
if they have anything to vent, I did not say those exact words.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-David-Hartley-Justice/114682475266018?v=wall
Lori D says:
November 30, 2010 at 7:33 pm
SH.. If you use Google Chrome, the option to translate pages will come up automatically.
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Thank-you, Lori D, I will check out Google Chrome.
A DMH is listed on Skype.
Skype: David M. Hartley, david.m.hartley80, Mexico, Reynosa.
Could she be communicating with friends by Skype? I don’t know
if that can be easily tracked.
S.H. – What a great idea about a Spanish page. You would think in all the time they lived in Reynosa that they had friends there who would know if there were any secrets going on in their lives, or at least they might have seen/heard suspicious things. It’s weird we’ve never heard any comments from friends they had on either the Mexico or Texas side.
The Skype info is very interesting. It would certainly explain why no one acts like they miss DH that badly – if they’re seeing him on a Skype image all the time. I wonder if DH did something so bad and/or was in such great danger from his own actions that he had to disappear, and his entire family knows it and they’re just covering for him because it’s better if everyone thinks he’s dead? But he would still have to have some type of device from which to transmit, yes? Computer, smart phone….and those things can all be tracked, at least on TH’s end.
ChiaPet517 says:
December 1, 2010 at 6:53 pm
S.H. – What a great idea about a Spanish page. You would think in all the time they lived in Reynosa that they had friends there who would know if there were any secrets going on in their lives, or at least they might have seen/heard suspicious things. It’s weird we’ve never heard any comments from friends they had on either the Mexico or Texas side.
The Skype info is very interesting. It would certainly explain why no one acts like they miss DH that badly – if they’re seeing him on a Skype image all the time. I wonder if DH did something so bad and/or was in such great danger from his own actions that he had to disappear, and his entire family knows it and they’re just covering for him because it’s better if everyone thinks he’s dead? But he would still have to have some type of device from which to transmit, yes? Computer, smart phone….and those things can all be tracked, at least on TH’s end.
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Chia,
When I was younger, I knew my employer was having an affair, because she told me. I also, knew she was hooked on prescription pills, because, she told me. This is why I thought of household help, I was a trusted babysitter.
Yep, you are right, it is like no one misses him, LOL. Tia was very choked up at the Memorial, IMO. She was in good spirits, Christmas Shopping, in the wee hours of the morning:)
Skype? He is listed on Skype, what does that mean? Does that mean
no one unregistered him? I did not, try to send him a message, through
Skype. I do not know, who, if anyone has his account, or if there is
an account. I just like to dig, I don’t want to get spooked:)
IF he did disappear, Money,is usually the answer and greed.
O.T.
Patrick McDermott filed for Bankrupty, before he disappeared, and
his child support payment were jacked up,too, before he vanished.
PM withdrew money out of the bank before he fled. We do not know
if DH had any transactions.