Murder In Mexico: Tiffany Hartley Endures 16 Hours Of Interviews In David Hartley Death
..” I have nothing to hide. I Have ABSOLUTELY nothing to hide..”
Tiffany Hartley emerged on CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360 yesterday after her 16th hour of interviews at the Mexican Consulate in McAllen, Texas.
Hartley recounted the events of September 30, ending with the alleged murder of her husband David. Ms. Hartley gave both new testimony and confirmed her previous statements according to reports from the Mexican Attorney General and Ms. Hartley herself, without the presence of an attorney.
According to several statements from Hartley, David was shot “off his jet ski” while the couple was returning from the Mexican side of Falcon Lake, where they briefly took pictures of the historic church on Old Guerrerro. Neither David Hartley nor his Sea Doo watercraft have been recovered.
One of the most baffling aspect of the case, is the fact that Ms. Hartley claims the pair were shot at at as they were driving their jet skis away from alleged “pirates” they both waved a friendly hello to, seconds before. Tiffany Hartley was uninjured in the attack, and her jet ski was not hit in the gunfire. Although media was alerted last week that tests on a possible blood source on Tiffany’s life vest were due back that afternoon, we were quickly told there would be no updates about the possible blood evidence at this time.
This afternoon, blinkoncrime Editor spoke with Chuck Smith, owner Smith Marina USA about specifics of the Sea Doo RXT.
..Your correct, the RXT has a chip in the starter that is electronically programmed to “match” the owners lanyard key. If he was wearing the lanyard, whether attached to his vest, or in some cases the arm, and he was thrown off the ski, it activates a kill switch and will not start without the key it is programmed to without a factory reprogramming, which of course, one would need the paperwork for. In short, no matter what, they would need his key to start it.
Blink Question: What if he was not attached to the key, and he was shot and flew off the unit “in motion”, this would not shut the engine off, correct?
CS: Correct. The ski would continue in the direction the handlebars were pointing and continue to throttle in that direction.
Blink: How hard are these models to sink?
CS: Virtually impossible. I have never actually heard of, or seen one, sink to the bottom. The way the Coast Guard standards are now with these, they have hulls similar to boats.
Blink: Could enough bullet holes sink it? What about if the contiuum– could that have caused it to flip? Could anyone right it?
CS: No, not unless we are talking morter rounds. I guess in theory an automatic weapon could put enough holes cut it in half if that was the goal, but again, your still going to see shards of fiberglass all over the water, remnants similar to a boat accident or crash. Again, under these circumstances, I don’t see how he could flip it, but if it were, again, harder to see because the bottom is black, but any SAR or Coast Guard deployment knows what abnormalities to look for on the water surface. It would be next to impossible to “right it” in deep water. It would be more likely they would drag it to shallow water.
Blink: Is this chop-shoppable?
CS: Absolutely. There is some after factory devices, similar to lo jack, but the engine and parts are expensive and could easily be sold that way.
Blink: He was wearing a PFD I. In your opinion is that keeping him afloat until he is located if he was left in the water?
CS: Absolutely, unless it was removed, or he and the vest were removed from the water, he would be floating, yes.
As announced this morning on Dana Pretzer commentary, Blink, Editor In Chief of blinkoncrime.com will be discussing the Hartley case this evening live at 9PM EST on Scared Monkeys The Dana Pretzer Show.
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LOL Ode
crimesolver,
RE: DH fb page.
Alot of places like schools will use wilkipedia as their ‘descriptor’ of the group or whatever. I did click on the bottom of the page and it shows the history. The page had been deleted of outdated or inappropriate posts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thompson_Valley_High_School&action=history
It is very interesting to hear of Tiffany’s decision to go to CO so suddenly. Sure makes me wish I had been a fly on the wall during the interview and at prayer time. Got that moving van in 24hrs or less huh? I wonder what LE’s reaction was to her moving plans? There is a part of me that also wonders if that is where she is actually going. I guess she will not be around for David’s big ass bash that is on 11/4 or 6th, can’t recall which. She can’t mourn in Texas? I would think that home hunting right now would be extra stress that isnt needed, but to each it’s own.
That is one way to get out of being served as a resident of Texas.
B
MOO and Holy Cow – I hope SOMEONE from LE is following this girl to Colorado and watching every move she makes. The first will be a trip to the insurance company. Someone from LE IS curious, right?
Geez you’d never know it from reading/watching the media.
And for someone who vowed to stay in Texas quite awhile longer to wait for David to be found (paraphrase) she sure took off fast. Didn’t she just say that yesterday? Wow things move fast in this case, at least for Tiffany.
On television LE always asks witnesses ect to stay in the area-(don’t leave town) while an investigation is ongoing-
I guess that only happens in movies. Like everyone else, I am shocked at how fast Ms. Hartley decided to pick up and get going, especially since the last time I saw an interview of her, she was still having such a hard time deciding which things to pack to keep and which to leave-
Blink- I missed your show and I am hoping to catch it on podcast- Do you know when it will be available? Or I’m I not seeing the link? TIA
sigh, I put in the query as to when the podcast will be up, will let you know.
B
My apologies if this has been covered already in previous discussions on earlier boards….
(until I just read Elizabeth’s comment about seven years)
I thought that the life insurance policy would only pay out if she had a body. right?
so
As I watch all of her interviews…the only thing she says is that “we just want his body back”
she doesnt want the killers to be brought to justice….the olny things she says is that she wants the body…over and over and over
How does this play in to the whole insurance deal?
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I remember reading some posts a while back saying that she had a boyfriend in high school who died and she may have been under suspicion or something…pretty sure I just butchered that story….but what was the deal and has it been vetted?
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Jet Ski….if he wasnt wearing the key and he got shot and subsequently fell or flew from the ski…I believe the ski would have slowed down when he released the gas…but the key would have been left in the ignition….not a useless jet ski then.
HOWEVER…still not sure what the pirates motives wouldve been.
—–Blink—-I had a jersey shore costume birthday party last year.
1. Do ya’ll have a Dollar Tree? If you do…go and buy the knock off version of the “Bump It” for a dollar. EVERY female utilized these at the party.
2. Sally Hansen Airbrush in a Can Spray….perfect FAKE FAKE tan
The guys costumes were MUCH better than the girls…its not everyday that all of your guy friends spray themselves with orange self tanner.
They all looked that the girl George dated on Seinfeld who he said was “way too tan” hope you watch Seinfeld…or u wont get that.
I see us as having similar kinds of humor…do you watch Scrubs? If so, please let me know….Ive been dying to throw some quotes/analogies out there
S.H. says:
October 20, 2010 at 9:44 pm
his is the only case, ever, (I can remember) no phone number has been given, as how to contact LE with a tip, no nothing, because, she does not want information given, just the Body.
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Oooh la la -what an excellent point! Not once was a number provided for public! Look at the Kyron case, and that number is plastered everywhere -had I been on the lake that day, I wouldn’t know where the heck to call to respond to her plea to anonymously give information… Great point. Jesus Christus. Oy då!
The professionalism of LE in this case has been shoddy at worst from start to now…including Chain of command with evidence —up to and including what you say here..
“That is one way to get out of being served as a resident of Texas.
B”
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If there was a need to be served, then it can of course happen in CO, right?
BTW, read in one article that they were going to, “hit the road” later today (or was that yesterday, whatever) — can you imagine them pulling up at a 7-Eleven or 76 Gas or whatnot for gas, potty and snacks? Wonder if she would even be noticed? Prolly not. Believe it or not there are peeps in Oregon who still have never heard of Kyron. But if they don’t recognize her, I am sure she will let them know how famous she is. Anywho, juz sayin’. I’m naughty. Time for natti natt!
Technically, yes. However, TX has no jurisdiction as a matter of State in CO, they would need to go to court to have CO serve her. If it is a Federal issue, it is a moot point.
B
Did Tiffany practice for the 911 call?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130698341
This is the 9-1-1 call:
“Are you sure your husband got shot?”
“Yes, in his head. Yea.”
“Was he thrown out of jet ski? Was he in the water?”
“He was thrown off jet ski and I couldn’t pick him up to get him on mine.”
snip…
The comment below is not mine, but on a blog.
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/
Why might a 29 year old not grieve for the “love of her life”?
I can think of two reasons:
1. She wanted him dead.
2. He is not dead.
(bottom of page)
9.S.H. says:
October 21, 2010 at 8:00 am
~snip~
Why might a 29 year old not grieve for the “love of her life”?
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I must say, not as a ‘dis’ to anyone, but there is usually far more drama in that age group. I see people mourn frequently, and I can say, there is a wide variation. I am not an expert. But, TH’s method of grief reminds me of an 85yo woman whose 90 yr old husband has just died after a long illness. Expected, relieved, and with a plan.
I was thinking this morning. It will be interesting to see if Tiffanys story and tv appearances continue after her meeting with Mexican authorities last Friday.
She certainly packed up the ranch and headed out of town fast after that meeting.
I wonder if they told her..enough. Be on your way and we shall let this die a slow death. Continue and you might face Mexican jail time.
By the way. How did the story on the head wound and then the neck wound end. Was that bad reporting or did the story change?
@S.H. says:
October 21, 2010 at 8:00 am
The comment below is not mine, but on a blog.
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/
Why might a 29 year old not grieve for the “love of her life”?
I can think of two reasons:
1. She wanted him dead.
2. He is not dead.
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I’ll still take door # 2 & that’s where I went from the start IMO..
Guess TH went home to practice she was starting to lose her place in the script.. ♥
Madilu says:
October 21, 2010 at 3:32 am
Oooh la la -what an excellent point! Not once was a number provided for public! Look at the Kyron case, and that number is plastered everywhere -had I been on the lake that day, I wouldn’t know where the heck to call to respond to her plea to anonymously give information… Great point. Jesus Christus. Oy då!
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The news Anchor’s never challenged her, as to “Where will the “pirates” reach you Tiffany?
Yes, fisherman-women, where on the Falcon Lake, at the time of the
“incident”. They heard no shots fired, but, if you fished and wanted
desperately to phone in a tip, you would have no contact information.
She didn’t even wear a T-Shirt with Davids picture, since, Mexican’s
can not understand English, the picture would tell the story, nope,
no T-shirt with David’s picture.
@ lily at October 19, 10:05:
Great post; your questions really helped me visualize the ‘scene’ and the improbability of it all. Blood mixed with the water from his head wound–yes you’d think there would be at least a ‘sheen’ of blood on her lifejacket–maybe not to be seen with the naked eye, but definitely there and detected by now.
A great thinker posted on the last thread (sorry-if I go back now I will lose what I’ve typed and probably my thoughts, too) that perhaps Tiffany changed her story from a head shot to a neck shot because she is afraid his head will be returned apart from his body. Makes complete sense to me…why else take such a risk changing her story? And if that is the case, then it makes me wonder why she didn’t just say he was shot where he was actually shot, if she did see it happen. So then I begin thinking…she did not see him shot. But she thinks he is or could be dead because she is afraid his head will show up and disprove her forehead story.
So that leads me to these questions…
*did the two of them plan his faked death but now she is thinking that perhaps with all of the attention/blame the Zetas are getting that they will find him and really kill him?
*if this was a drug deal gone bad, whether on land or on water, then could she really have come up with her story between the frazzled time she was chased from Mexico to the witness? Or maybe that is WHY her story is so full of holes as she was making it up as she talked to witness and 911, following their unintended leads.
* ummm, I wonder if TH is afraid for her life yet? She has brought a whole lot of attention to a group that does not want it.
@lizzy on October 19 at 7:49…you posted the theory about TH being afraid her husband’s head would be found without the fatal wound she had described. I just think your idea is quite probable and thought-provoking!
@S.H. says:
October 21, 2010 at 8:00 am
“The comment below is not mine, but on a blog.
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/
Why might a 29 year old not grieve for the “love of her life”?
I can think of two reasons:
1. She wanted him dead.
2. He is not dead.”
Or, maybe, the choice I’ve been pondering as I sit on the fence:
3. She has a sociopathic or other milder personality disorder. She may miss him, as he fed her ego and needs, but not grieve as we understand it. That could also explain the “subjective truth” in “her story.” But it does not automatically make her guilty.
A certain website, a Blogger wrote that DH’s, FB page, was changed on the day of the incident.
Was his Facebook page changed? If it was changed – was it changed before or after the incident? The incident was 2:45 pm, reportedly.
The Blogger, mentioned DH added new friends to his FB account. He was a busy man that day, he could have changed it during the time he was pulled over.
I would be curious, if I was LE, about the sister of TH. The sister posted a memorial fund (information) on her FB, I was be curious if the Sis is getting an cell phone messages for Tiff.
I have watched and read the coverage on this. I’m sorry but……I am not really buying into the story. So much of it really does not make sense. I smell something not right…….Mexican pirates is a good start….why hasn’t this been reported before? or is this the first time we ever heard of MEXICAN PIRATES? I’m really NOT buying into her story!
“ChiaPet517 says:
October 20, 2010 at 11:45 pm
MOO and Holy Cow – I hope SOMEONE from LE is following this girl to Colorado and watching every move she makes. The first will be a trip to the insurance company. Someone from LE IS curious, right? Geez you’d never know it from reading/watching the media.”
ChiaPet517 – This is JMO but I think there almost has to be at least ONE doubting Thomas from LE that is tailing her a little. I know the major media portrays this “her word” but if you go to a lot of different media websites and read the stories about it and then scroll to the bottom where peeps can leave comments, MAJORITY of them doubt Tiffany’s story so I have to believe that not ALL of LE thinks her story jives, I’ve seen too many others that beg to differ and they’re not all blog sites, they’re media sites. Again, JMO tho’
Toughest job in the world: Femaile Student – Woman, 20, becomes police chief in one of Mexico’s most violent border towns… because no one else will do it
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1322302/Female-student-20-police-chief-Mexicos-violent-towns.html?ITO=1490
Prayers for the Hartley family.
Yay! MP3 Audio link is now up on SM Radio.
http://www.necn.com/10/21/10/Wife-of-husband-killed-while-jet-skiing-/landing_nation.html?blockID=335886&feedID=4207
Interesting video, last minute decision of leaving. The video is broken up, but I found it worthy.
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After facing intense questioning by Mexican investigators, Hartley says she fears for her safety. Hartley says she will continue to pressure authorities to find her husband’s body.
TH = Tiffany Hartley and Terri Horman.
EVIL!!
Moving to CO ? This aint right. I smell fish!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F08dyWn1nzc
Wife Moves To Colorado
This is the same video but much better audio.
Blink for me to find out if someone lies it is in fact à relative easy thing to do. I just overflow this case because i only follow Morgans case for the best i can with my 10 Hour work each day., so i just know few facts and i didn’t see interwiews with Tiffany H. But you ll see it yourself if she speaks about the day when her husband died and relating what happend you see her Eyes move every few moments in the right Corner then She Search in the Brain partie wich stand for memory. Try it yourself relate your friend about your last Trip or the last mail you cooked explain how you did it and you will see you will Search in the Corner to the right. Then Tell your friend about something you want to do tomorrow. You will Look straight. Because you wiil Not Search in memory. If you Look down you just concentrate into yourself for some reason ( lying ashame also griev and other possibilities) if you are just Lost in pain you will often look upside searching for explaination and help. Try it you will see. Blink sorry for the typos and for my english i Hope you understood what i meant.
Eloise..thanks for the input on the facebook/high school scenerio.
Does anyone know…when TH came ashore after the accident, I wonder if she asked the witness to help her go back and get David? It seems like she could have asked him if he had a boat? Wonder how much of her body/clothing/hair was wet? Has anyone found a complete transcript of the 911 call? Whose phone did they use to make the call? So many gray areas to that phase of the accident.
ALSO: Wondering if TH hasn’t hired an attorney because she doesn’t want to start accrueing charges until she really needs to? (Greed or maybe lack of funds? What about the memorial money?) Wonder if David paid for long-term sick leave health ins at work?
Just a guess here but if she’s in Colorado & DH is alive contact via a land line that belongs to someone else would be a lot easier for her they can’t trace a phone they don’t know about.. And perhaps my favorite cell the Pre Paid’s might create a paper trail when she buys the minutes & taps into the cell towers..
A detective friend of mine once told me that when you want to get to the truth in a story just ask the person to recreate the scene or incident..
re: S.H. I watched that video on Youtube & she doesn’t look to distraught about leaving she’s set to go..
20.SouthernMom says:
October 21, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Toughest job in the world: Femaile Student – Woman, 20, becomes police chief in one of Mexico’s most violent border towns… because no one else will do it
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Thanks for posting that, I saw that story. Wow she is brave, I pray she is successful.
On Tuesday, however, Mexican investigators conducted a re-enactment at the lake, State Department spokeswoman Virginia Staab said.
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-10-20/justice/texas.missing.american_1_mexican-authorities-husband-shot-body?_s=PM:CRIME
O you can expect to see that on video.
B
s.h. @1:02
Thanks for the great video. This girl has boundless energy! I couldn’t believe all those stacked boxes all packed up and the house cleared out in about 24 hours? And before that, 16 hours of police questioning and several more television interviews…all while grieving for a dead husband. How does a girl find the time? She certainly puts me to shame. When I lost someone close to me I couldn’t cook a meal much less pack up a house and move 1200 miles away.
Blink replied to me-
That is one way to get out of being served as a resident of Texas.
B
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Dumb question. What jurisdiction does Texas have? It seems to me, based on TH’s testimony as we know it, DH was ‘killed or missing’ in Mexico. So unless something like a missing person’s report was filed from Texas on his behalf, why does Texas represent the US? Is it b/c she reported an incident on Texas grounds? Or does the state of Texas have info that a crime occurred in their state?
I watched the video above and came away saying “What”. She signed a witness statement that was in Spanish and is looking for somebody to translate?
She is either one smart cookie or dumb as a rock?
Buh i forgot some people corners to the left i think it depends if you are right or left handet. And this is an observation we can only make for the very first interwiews because later if you try to remember what you told First you will also search in memory. I red 3 years ago about Debbie Milke s case. I spoke for about à hour with Renate Yanka, Debbies mom who wrote à book about the case. I was very sad about this case because i most thought Debbie was innovent and is in D.Row for à Crime she didn’t comit. Until i saw an interwiew with Debbie. She look straight very straight. Plus little inconstanties in case so now i am not so sure anymore… Anyway i am against DP so it is sad anyway. I am à Christ so i wrote to Jens Soering in à 3 Page Letter because after à very moving report in Germany i was convinced of his innocence. I red also his case so i tried to gave him courage and i wanted to let him know that there are people out there who are thinking of him that he is not forgotten and that God will help him in ine Way or in another. But i asked two questions in this letter that preocupated my Mind regarding his ” innocence” so for me to be very sure that he isn’t and wasn’t lying. I Never became an answer. That is telling me à lot. So also there i am not sure anymore. This post is mostly out of topic but i want to tell with this that behavior speaks volume. There are some cases where the behavior of people is very clear see casey Anthony but there are cases where everybody have to look twice before founding an own mind. Sorry sorry for my english.
@ Dee says:
October 21, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Since Tiffany & David had been planning the move to Colorado the packing may have started prior to him going missing.. Don’t want TH to get too much credit..
17.S.H. says:
October 21, 2010 at 11:46 am
A certain website, a Blogger wrote that DH’s, FB page, was changed on the day of the incident.
Was his Facebook page changed? If it was changed – was it changed before or after the incident? The incident was 2:45 pm, reportedly.
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I wonder if any of the new friends could be DH?
Just to elucidate i thought if Jens soering did not comit himself the crime He shouldn’t have to sit In DRow. But i Never Never thought He was innocent because only for the fact him to Be in love with someone like his girlfriend at that time knowing what he knew at that time make him guilty for a part in all this. Thats what i wrote also in that Letter but in à very gently way. Anyway i didn’t get answer. And for TH look very Close at her behavior that tells so much in one way or in another. Only my opinion without judging only pleased to Chat with people on the other side of the atlantic:)
@ Elizabeth says:
October 21, 2010 at 4:45 pm
I watched the video above and came away saying “What”. She signed a witness statement that was in Spanish and is looking for somebody to translate?
She is either one smart cookie or dumb as a rock?
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Perhaps she wanted to show the officials there that she had nothing to hide & that if she trusted them then they should trust her.. Just a guess but I buy the cookie theory..
Dumb like a fox would be my opinion..
On Tuesday, however, Mexican investigators conducted a re-enactment at the lake, State Department spokeswoman Virginia Staab said.
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-10-20/justice/texas.missing.american_1_mexican-authorities-husband-shot-body?_s=PM:CRIME
O you can expect to see that on video.
B
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Blink,
Did she leave Dodge because? “Monday night” she had a bad feeling.
Was it the reenactment? We may have to wait for the video. Oh George
Burns must have given the thumbs up! LOL
Ode says:
October 21, 2010 at 5:28 pm
A certain website, a Blogger wrote that DH’s, FB page, was changed on the day of the incident.
I wonder if any of the new friends could be DH?
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Ode
You are thinking with all your brain cells, I didn’t think of that!
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nana2 says:
October 21, 2010 at 10:07 am
@S.H. says:
October 21, 2010 at 8:00 am
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/
Why might a 29 year old not grieve for the “love of her life”?
I can think of two reasons:
1. She wanted him dead.
2. He is not dead.
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I’ll still take door # 2 & that’s where I went from the start IMO..
Guess TH went home to practice she was starting to lose her place in the script.. ♥
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I am on the fence about door #2. I watched her talk about David, she
says “him” (not, my husband) but “him”. I still am on the fence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F08dyWn1nzc
She will be back for his body when it is found, yeap, she will take a plane back.
Did I hear that right? She is trying to get her signed statement translated? If she didn’t know for sure what it said why in the hell did she sign it? Is she going to say she signed it under duress so as to make it invalid?
I distinctly recall her saying it took so long because she gave it, it was translated it, it was then repeated to her verbatim, and she approved or changed accordingly.
My head.
B
35.Ode says:
October 21, 2010 at 5:28 pm
I wonder if any of the new friends could be DH?
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Those were my thoughts too when I went to look at the facebook high school site, was checking to see if there were any posts on school site that could be a “double meaning msg” to her. Also wondered if some of the support postings on webpage blog comments could be comments (hidden msg from DH) that would alert her to his surroundings. The one on link caught my attention because of the funky name mistaz.
http://www.reporterherald.com/news_story.asp?ID=29653
My husband and I were fishing Lake Falcon on the Mexico side the day this horrible sensless murder took place. We heard the gun shots but assumed they were from dove hunters. We never strayed from the main part of the lake. There were several US fisherman on the Mexico side that day. We are so angry that the evil people that did this will just go on with their lives and never be brought to justice. This young man’s family needs to bring him home so they can have some sort of closure. Mexico officials need to get a backbone and do whatever it takes to bring him home. Our prayers are with their family.
mistaz, odessa, texas, 10/3/2010 10:44 PM
ON THE BOC site, October 6, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Megan posted/gave us this info from facebook:
This is posted on the In Honor of David Michael Hartley facebook page-
Mrs. Hartley, My husband and I were fishing on the Mexico side of Falcon that afternoon. We did hear gunfire and later saw the Border Patrol helicopter frantically flying over the area of the house that sits on the tip of a point(USA). We k…new then that something really bad had happened. Our first thought was dove hunters but the shooting just didn’t stop. Gov. Rick Perry stated that the Mexican officals haven’t had anyone say they heard gunshots. They didn’t ask US! They are evil and we will not let them get away with this. Pray without ceasing! We are so upset about this and will do everything we can to help you. We live in Odessa and it is happening here. God Bless you and David’s family. We are praying for his return and for justice. Margaret Leach is the poster.
Is mistaz and margaret Leach the same person? They are both from Odessa. Or are they really from Odessa? M Leach’s contacts all seem to live in different towns. I know I’m reading too much into this, but sometimes I get carried away with scenerios/mystery solving. Some of Marg Leach’s posts could have hidden msg in them. Very little info on her wall. She has 15 contacts, one with a funky name Freddie secondsighting,hmmm….Breakaway vizsla puppies (what kind of dog do the Hartleys have?) & the majority of the contacts have the last name Knighen.
Another post from M Leach on 10/9. MEMORIAL PAGE
Margaret Leach – Mrs. Hartley, I was contacted yesterday from NBC about my husband and me doing an interview about what we heard that afternoon. I did talk on the phone with someone but have not heard back from them yet. I pray daily for you and your family. Never take your eyes off Heaven. The Lord will give you wisdom and strength . There are some that are against you but the ones that are by your side wipe out the doubters. You are David’s voice now. We have to work hard to stop what is happening to OUR AMERICAN FAMILIES.
IGNORE my last conspiracy post….this “story” is just pushing me over the edge!
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/10/20/texas.missing.american/
She said she will be fighting for her husband and The Border!
Idea, Tiffany should apply for a Border Patrol Agent’s job in Texas.
I wanted to comment on the “doesn’t make sense to go all that way for 5 minutes and a picture” ideas.
My brother is a SERIOUS history buff…he would have done this too. He just recently drove 45 minutes out of the way to stop, see, take a pic in front of the Louisville Slugger place…knew it was closed…that all he could do is look at it from outside, but he wanted to get a pic while he had a chance…and say he’d been there. My brother has been to just about everything historical in this country…and I’m sure he has a list of 50 more places he’ll see. Most of the places he’s been were well explored, visited etc. But, it is not unusual for him to detour on his hurried way to stop, look, take a quick pic…he’s done this dozens of times over the last 20 years.
DH called his parents that morning and told them where he was headed…I don’t find it unusual for him to want to go. He knew it was dangerous and risky…but, our young and carefree usually do assume they are “bullet-proof” in their own reality.
Prayers for the Hartley family.
Blink -
Could the DEA’s involvement merely be because the potential perps are assumed Drug Cartel…and NOT because of DH & TH personal drug involvement?
Thx…prayers for the Hartley family.
Absolutely, yes.
B
@Elizabeth says:
October 21, 2010 at 9:30 am
I was thinking this morning. It will be interesting to see if Tiffanys story and tv appearances continue after her meeting with Mexican authorities last Friday.
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Me too -and more curious I am as to whether or not the Hartley family will continue to stand by her side.
41.Ode says:
October 20, 2010 at 8:34 pm
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I wonder if God sounds like George Burns to TH.
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CUTE! James Earl Jones and Morgan Freeman are other considerations =)
@ SouthernMom says:
October 21, 2010 at 7:18 pm
I wanted to comment on the “doesn’t make sense to go all that way for 5 minutes and a picture” ideas.
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I can understand your brother being a history/photo bug & going 45 minutes out of his way to get some great pics etc, but from what I can tell the Hartleys didn’t just go 45 minutes out of their way to take pics of this church..
They gassed up 2 jet ski’s & the truck (not cheap) & loaded the 2 jet ski’s on the truck & drove quite a distance from what I’ve read to get to Falcon Lake.. I thought I had read a 2 hr trip but I’m getting old so I could be off on that (senior moment)..
Then its unload the jet ski’s time, park the truck, get ready & away we go another 6 miles to the church to spend 5 minutes to get a couple of pics & turn around to go home.. What no plans for a picnic lunch at that beautiful lake ? Hmm I don’t know about that one..
I don’t own a jet ski can’t even swim but I’ll take a stab & say that jet ski’s are not easy to load & unload even for the young water loving couple.. That 5 minutes puzzles me..
I would have planned to make a day out of it especially since they were moving back to Colorado & who knows when they would get to be back there again.. But no talk about what had been planned for the rest of the day at Falcon when they came back from the church.. Or at least I didn’t hear of any plans..
She is getting out of there faster than a bat out of hell. Her body language and actions tell me that she is done, she is straight up done with all of the questioning. Her moving is a straight up knee jerk reaction. Does she have a history of running away before things get nasty, and then put all of the blame on God’s words? You have to follow God’s words, right??? God told her, move west pioneer and get on with your life. I’m holding back the rest of my comment.
http://www.themonitor.com/articles/home-43745-mcallen-missing.html
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U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar said American officials will not give up on the investigation. “One of the things that we have to keep in mind is that we have to get a conclusion to this,” he said. “We have to find out what it is that happened. We can’t just leave it alone…Just because she’s moving back to Colorado, doesn’t mean we will stop.”
“Investigation” and “search” are two very different things. Sounds like Rep Cueller does NOT believe Tiffany Hartley!!! This encourages me that LE is in fact more interested in truth and justice for David than Tiffany Hartley -why, she is happy with just, “some DNA.”
PS. Thanks for the youtube clip above -nice house they had, wonderful kitchen, huh? Also, did anyone notice her flippant remark and body language when she said, :45 -”I know I made a lot of people mad…but I’m not going away.”
Hmmmmm, funny thing to say with packed boxes all around her -LE and doubters will not go away either until there is evidence to prove that what she said happened is true. Great!