Casey Anthony Trial: Feds File Tax Lien Against Casey Anthony For Over $68K
In the latest developments in the life of the accused murderer ToT- Mom Casey Anthony, The Federal Government wants in on the action. According To TMZ, The Internal Revenue Service has filed a Tax Lien against Casey Anthony for failing to pay ,000 in taxes for the year 2008.
It is unclear if she was audited, but she definitely filed a tax return in 2008. I guess crime really doesn’t pay, at least the government.
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I wish I understood why the fight between cindy and casey wasn’t discussed by prosecution, the frustration that george had with casey where he had to be held back, and the tattoo????I thought these would have been discussed by now?
41.A Texas Grandfather says:
June 6, 2011 at 6:54 pm
TGF says, “Been watching the Dr. Vass show today. He gets pretty excited about his work and had to be slowed down several times. Basically I thought he did a very good job of keeping things at a level that the jurors could understand. No real technical people on the jury.
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@TGF, I agree. What a pleasure it is to watch an expert who has a gift for translating complicated science subject matter into words and concepts that are easily understood by laypersons. And, he does so in a gentle, non-assuming manner. IMO, juries, in general, do not much care for ivory tower academic types who exude arrogance while testifying; Dr. Vass is about as far away from that type as one can get. Bravo, Dr. Vass!
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TGF says, “I was amazed that the State did not better prepare Dr. Vass for cross examination by Mr. Baez. They knew that Baez didn’t want his testimony to come in and that he would likely try and discredit him and his work.
“IMO Dr.Vass needs to work on a better answer concerning his understanding of the chemistry involved.”
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TGF, no doubt JB wanted to try to impeach Dr. Vass’s testimony in any way he could. This is a defense attorney’s job when s/he comes up against an expert who is presenting such potentially damaging evidence against his/her client. Over the years, I have found that the more effective and damaging an expert’s testimony is, the more harsh–even personal–the cross exam can be. Jurors tend pick up on this very quickly.
If you recall, Dr. Vass got a preview of JB’s potential cross examination direction during the Frey Hearing, so I think there were no surprises for him today. It certainly was not the harshest or most pointed cross exam I have ever witnessed. I thought Dr. Vass came across as knowledgeable and professional, and held his own quite well. There were more than a couple of times when I winced aloud at JB’s questions, as he clearly did not understand the science. IIRC, when Linda Kenney Baden was on the team, she was the one who researched the science behind Vass’s work, and probably would have been more effective on cross exam.
In summary, I found Dr. Vass a formidable and credible force on the stand. He knows his work product extremely well, well enough to avoid all the..’er…potholes JB laid in his path.
Frey=Frye hearing.
Sorry folks, it’s getting late and the sandman is already at work on me! Probably lots more typos but too exhausted to look for them.
Yowsa. What a lot of good comments.
Slow Rollah, you’re bringing Game. Thank you.
ATG–I’m only a brassy hussy. I just know you can have a carnival anywhere you want: Venice is kind of small for a big party.
I’m thinking Arban is some sort of hair oil?
Naw, I admire musicians, but I am not one. You all can do math and science and puzzles and languages. (Well, I do languages, but only by scratch and sniff.)
I’m sure you’ve been moved by your many-playing Taps, but I was trying to factor in the “level of attempt” with my comment above. It’s dang near impossible to play some pieces on the trumpet, but beginner guys can practice enough to play Taps.
This trial is a complicated affair. Casey thought she was a mastermind. Her lawyer knows he’s a dope on a rope. Together, they’re still hoping to play to a completely naive audience. That audience, in their mind, would not appreciate the finest Vass-tuning on the market, unless they got to compare it to some wayward radio static from the Florida hinterlands. Only then would they know which end was up, perhaps. Agenda: add more static.
Ciao for now, bello Blinkers.
WG
Hi Everyone!
I’ve been listening and reading intently. I think the prosecution has proved it’s point. I agree with the state 100%. She died in the car; however, I don’t think they will get the death penalty out of this. Even with fingerprints, it will be hard to prove premeditation.
Great posts guys-
Osu- thanks, I am glad that I could help. Sorry about not recapping the second half of the day, but I too had to catch it in reruns.
I found Dr. Vass’s testimony quite fascinating and informative. I found Baez cross to be serious lacking in logic.
I couldnt believe JB was still going to go with – the grave wax on the paper towels, was caused by the serious munchies, of one very hungry Pothead- who according to Dr. Vass, would have had to be eating POUNDS of very fatty hamburger meat- raw- & garnished with lots of bacteria, found just in the human body, and this pothead, would have had to choose to partake in this delicacy, while sitting in an anaerobic environment-like the trunk- but Dr, V said- “with a bag over the head” ….. Oh those crazy potheads- they are much like ‘Mikey’- they’ll eat anything-
Baez to my understanding, ended this questioning for the day by informing the court, that they wish to call Dr. V as a witness for them 0during their case in chief….
The defenses whole cross yesterday seriously makes me wonder who has really been smoking the wacky tobaccy… J/k
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TGF- thank you, for your expertize.
Yes, you are right Dr. V actually said as much. I was previously aware of this, as IIRC, these were the compounds that were left behind in such cases as the famous ‘ghostly’ imprint in Ohio.
I look forward to hearing everyones take in todays proceedings-
Court resumes at 9am today.
AJMO
I think Bloise’s ethnic background dialect is as darling as Vass’s.
Too tired too comment last PM after watching all the days parts w/ hubby. I was curious as an uninvolved layperson’s opinion if he were able to follow Vass, and he said, “absolutely, I know exactly what he is saying”. fwiw.
An observation I made, was there is a fine line btwn Baez objecting for his client and what may be interpreted by the jury as interfering with them getting the evidence from the witness. I would say the myriad of objections and sidebars were irritating to the jury, giving them the sense that he was trying to hde evidence from them. JMO.
OMG! Pls tell me this is to allow the opening of the can vs a true error??
Could the State have any more endearing Law Enforcement and Expert Witnesses? Melich, Vass, Bloise, and now this FBI guy (didn’t catch his name). Add to that the professionalism of LDB and JA and HHJP, and the mountains of evidence against Casey, I feel confident that Casey’s goose is cooked!
I can barely type . . . the anticipation is so great . . .
court time: 11:38
On the stand is Deputy Forgey, trainer/handler of K9 Gerus in the July, 2008 human decomposition alerts, and the original trainer/handler of K9 Bones prior to Sgt. Brewer who was the trainer/handler of Bones in the July alerts.
This trial is going very smoothly. I thought we would have more outburst and crazy things that would happen. Judge Perry is great
Just wanted to share this interesting info-
Forgey testified that his dog/s :Bones and Gerus were trained on many scents of decomp – tissue, bones, grave dirt, grave wax- ect- also trained to alert to water that a drowned victim was in-this was done by a tablet(pill) that dissolves in any body of water and emits the scent of a drowned body- Therefore IF Caylee Anthony was accidentally OR otherwise Drowned in the swimming Pool of the family Home- Bones would most assuredly would have alerted to the water right?
WOW
Also interestingly enough trained with ham, bones, trash, and gas and hamburger ect all sorts of items that could distract the dogs- They were trained NOT to be distracted by other scents-
WOW
AJMO
These dogs are unbelievable, thanks for updating Mom 3.0, as always I appreciate it. Juggling Ova Heee.
B
Your welcome Blink- Happy to be here as always-
Its now lunch recess- Today Bloise testified to the trash and the drying of the trash- Drying was done inorder to preserve the evidence not alter it or destroy it- Wetness causes mold and disintegration—DUH-
papertowels were placed in a plastic bag inorder to better preserve them this does not aid in extracting DNA later on- Bloise testified that there was no blood or other visual cues that would tend to point to DNA on the towels- in other words he did what he thought best in way of preservation- Besides- correct me if I am wrong but gravewax DOES NOT contain DNA- ?!
Also interesting that Baez tried to exclude the Fusion receipt from the trash as evidence admitted- it was denied- duh- didnt try to get the Full Sail papers excluded… but his objecting to it just underscored its importance IMO
Dr Vass was recalled due to an error in identifying the can- mistakenly thought to be one in which air is still contained Dr. V- stated that he was mistaken and apologized upon cross Baez tried to bring up chain of custody and research lab vs forensic lab- he was overruled by JP-
IMO not a big deal-
Then FBI Rickenbocker was called- did dual testing on carpet samples for chloroform – residual amounts detected and also “consistent with”- was testified to-
Said it was trace amounts found in cleaning products- reluctant to put an amount on levels
Baez made some head way with this witness got him to say it was low amounts and that chloroform can be found in water anfd products- JA upon redirect took back all headway given-
Pointed out that Chloroform is very volatile- usually in liquid form gas will dissipate into air- if left “open”, unsealed… time passed since Caylee was in trunk- time passed while at tow yard- and trash removal, trunk opened, windows opened ect- time passed while sitting in A’s garage and while trunk opened aired out ect- time passed when trunk liner removed and stored at LE bay ect ect- Therefore actual levels of chloroform were far greater than those finally tested by Rickenbacker or Vass or LE ect-
LDB still has deputy Forgey on the stand- will continue after lunch-
WPG- I am totally digging the dog testimony too!
I agree with you Blink, these dogs are outstanding- I would never have imagined that they actually can detect so much those drowned tablets- all I can keep saying is WOW- to me, that says Gerus and Bones those dogs NOT alerting to the actual pool/ water is major and totally denies the defenses whole scenario of Caylee dead in the pool -
PS- Eloise I agree with you about Bloise’s accent- I really like the way he addresses the lawyers as “counselors”- the way he says it so cool.
AJMO
Baez is/was delibertly creating the side bars during the questioning of Dr. Vass by the state. This was done to break the stream of information to the jury so they had a harder time understanding.
I so wanted to interject for Dr. Vass the answer regarding money. I would have answered “Yes Sir, I get paid for my work just a you expect to get paid for yours.”
Work Girl you are a hoot. That whole thing about music was based on something you experienced yourself or one of your children. I have never found a beginner that was capable of playing taps correctly.
Beginners play notes, not music. Taps requires the understanding of dynamics and phrasing. Something that is very hard for beginners to grasp and control.
Eloise that was just a mistake the prosecution made that they wanted to correct as quickly as possible. They are human and all humans make mistakes. I do not see the can being opened in court.
The FBI forensic scientist this morning did a good job. However, I was suprised to find that the trunk liner and spare tire cover were not shipped in a container that would have protected them from evaporation. I was also suprised to find that he did not use the same size sample of the fabric for each test he performed. Two big mistakes IMO.
No one has mentioned the rate of evaporation of chemicals found in the trunk liner. Maybe they never tested for this. I would have made a control sample and tried to duplicate the conditions found in the trunk of the Pontiac. This could have given them an approximate time the body was in the vehicle.
The chart that Dr. Vass used to show the chloroform peaks was too little for me to read on the TV, so we don’t know the actual numbers the peak represented. If it was as much as 500 ppm, this indicates to me a dangerous level.
Mom 3.0,
Yes, I heard him explaining those tablets. So why did the dogs not find Caylee 15 houses away?
Cyber paws off. I’m staking claim on Gerus and Bones!!!!
Does anyone know if the smell of decomp to a canine is distressing to them? Being a sickly scent, I wonder if these creatures feel a sense of repulsion like humans.
they do not. It is like a puzzle really, like seeing something with your eyes, but not knowing what it is, but knows it fits, as a laypersons perspective. Not emotional for them. Like finding the puzzle piece under the table, if you will.
I would love any certified handlers to weigh in.
B
I am grateful to learn it’s not emotional for them. Having such keen sense of smell, it still cannot be a pleasant experience for them. Observing them at work seems to reveal they are eager to make a hit (tails up and wagging). The puzzle analogy makes sense.
Thank you!
BAEZ: on page 81…
JP: page 89 (in the background)
That was down right funny.
Baez does NOT dispute that there was a dead body in the backyard even thought she died in the pool (according to Baez, not me). I can’t believe I just heard him make that statement! Did he not just blow his ‘accidental drowning’ cause of death?
I cannot believe that in reciting Det. Forgey’s previous deposition Baez said “blah blah blah.” Oh no wait, I can. Forgey’s testimony was very compelling. Go Team Caylee!
Ya know what I think? I think Caylee probably did drown. I think Casey wrapped duct tape all around Caylee’s mouth and nose and into her hair (so Caylee couldn’t remove it), threw her into the pool until she died, and then took her out and attempted to remove the duct tape – but couldn’t – because it was stuck to her hair. So, she just left it on.
I LOVE watching Casey when Judge Perry is telling the jury that they can have Italian food or steak….Casey is eating balogne and coleslaw hahaha. The next time she will get food of her choice is her last meal. That’s justice.
LE Forgey loves what he does and is very proud of Bones and was it Garris. I was amazed at his completeness and knowledge base.
I have read of dogs who can diagnose disease. They can’t say cancer but they can point to an area on the body that maybe in harms way.
I had a Rotwhiler (Bella) and I used to hide something of hers and say go find it and she would search all over the house and always find what I hid then she would come running with it her mouth with her stub waggin.
Dogs are such good friends. I wonder if it was hard for LE Forgey to listen to JB degrade his team worker today. I know JB is just doing his job but it doesn’t make sense to me. He goes to far with his twisted questions. He’s tried to depreciate all the wittness so far.
Don’t beleive FBI wanted to do the Chloroform test. Never did it before. We never saw his actual graph. They all say its volatile why don’t they just say it evaporates at a rapid rate. Would seem more understandable to the jury. So what Dr. Vass examined was enclosed in a can and I believe he got the first sample even after the trunk had been opened to air. I don’t think FBI testimony was clear, but JB used that wittness To his advantage. Or was the conclusion it came from cleaning products?
Watching the WFTV live video feed on the internet, Bill Shaeffer comments during sidebars & short court breaks. In a comment about Jose Baez’s mistakes in cross examination; Bill Shaeffer said this (paraphraised):
Forming precise questions and avoiding pitfalls in cross examination is a difficult art to learn. After 9 years of practice he (Shaeffer) had a moment of chrystal clarity doing a cross examination and realized that he had broken through and was finally able to function well within the complexities of it.
Sorry, no link to this statement, those commentaries are not posted as preserved video.
Why, oh, why is relative neophite, Jose Baez, doing almost all of the cross examination? (Cheney Mason has done just one so far and Dorothy Simms, none.) Are they doing this in order to set up for a possible ineffective council appeal? Is it just Jose Baez’s ego? Are Mason & Simms boycotting? Why?
The minute I heard GA [on stand] say, ” …opened the truck & ‘flies’ flew out … saw some maggots in the trash bag …”
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Short answer, “blow flies/ human decomp” … [ -or- "TV's Gil Grissome/CSI, study of insects"]
This may help[ explain ... also more info on 'stages' of decomp ...
Forensic entomological decomposition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forensic_entomological_decomposition
"Medicolegal entomology is a branch of forensic entomology that applies the study of insects to criminal investigations, and is commonly used in death investigations for estimating the post-mortem interval (PMI)[1][2]. One method of obtaining this estimate uses the time and pattern of arthropod colonization[3]. This method will provide an estimation of the period of insect activity, which may or may not correlate exactly with the time of death[1]. While insect successional data may not provide as accurate an estimate during the early stages of decomposition as developmental data, it is applicable for later decompositional stages and can be accurate for periods up to a few years[4].”
“When studying decomposition from an entomological point of view and for the purpose of applying data to human death investigations, the domestic pig Sus scrofa (Linnaeus) is considered to be the preferred human analogs[2]. In entomological studies, five stages of decomposition are commonly described: (1) Fresh, (2) Bloat, (3) Active Decay, (4) Advanced or Post-Decay, and (5) Dry Remains[2][7]. While the pattern of arthropod colonization follows a reasonably predictable sequence, the limits of each stage of decomposition will not necessarily coincide with a major change in the faunal community. Therefore, the stages of decomposition are defined by the observable physical changes to the state of the carcass[8]. A pattern of insect succession results as different carrion insects are attracted to the varying biological, chemical and physical changes a carcass undergoes throughout the process of decay[2].”
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New says:
June 6, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Thanks Julie. Still don’t know what the officer took. ID?
Is that Emtomologist on the wittness list? Just was reveiwing what blow flies and larvae can contain. George said in an excited statement on the stand he “seen magots in the bag too.”
Anniex9 says:
June 7, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Annie, I was watching Casey’s face when he discussing choice of restaurants (mmmmmmm….Italian). She looked like she was seriously indulging her sense of self pity. I admit, I felt kinda gratified myself.
I would like to take a moment to call on all of you who pray, to pray every single day that the truth will be known in this case and that the jury will realize and follow the truth when determining what happened in this case.
Just a simple prayer, every single day for the next “X” weeks until this trial ends.
Pray for everyone involved. Even Baez and Casey. God tells us to pray for our enemies and not to repay evil for evil.
Dont take this the wrong way, I want to see justice, but I also want to see the truth, clearly, so that jury wont walk away feeling like they made the wrong decision. And Judge Perry needs our prayers. His job is not an easy one.
God is in control…of EVERY situation. I put this one in His hands.
As to possible smell of decomp in the pool; according to Jose Baez’s version of Caylee’s death in his opening statements, George had retieved Caylee’s body from the pool the morning of her death. In this (ficticional, in my opinion) scenario, how long would she have been in the pool? An hour? At most?
According to Dr Vass, the process of decompostion on the cellular level does not start immediately at death. The cells continue to function, although blood flow has stopped. Without blood to carry away carbon doixide, the CO2 builds up within the cells. Co2 is acidic and as the evironment within the cells becomes ever more acidic, the walls of the lysosome organelles dislove. The lysosome organelles are cellular componants which digest waste products within the cells; so once they are disabled, the buildup of the first volitile products of decomposition begins.
Also according to Vass the elements which effect the speed of the decomp process are environmental temperature, barometric pressure and humidity, of which, temperature has the greatest impact.
The effect of temperature is such that drowning victims in cold conditions who have been clinically dead for 1/2 hour and more have been revived. In other words, the cells of those victims have not yet ruptured; have not yet started decomposing.
Even though Caylee died in Florida in June, IF it happened in the pool in the morning, the water would have been cooler than the air; having retained some cooler night temperature. Let’s say, not cold, but at least, cool water.
What I am saying is, I don’t think, in Baez’s scenario, there would have been any decompositional fluids released into the pool water within an hour or less. Much less would there be volitile decomp substances still present in the pool water for the dogs to smell more than a month later.
I am very interested in his explanation of why Gerus and Bones hit in the backyard, but not the pool, I have to go back and review his testimony regarding the “shallow graves” issues.
B
New
I think he claimed in the end that the volume of material indicated it could have come from cleaning material. I did not see any graphs.
The FBI group was all about testing for materials.
I have no idea of the instructions for testing the FBI recieved from LE.
I learned from testing for hydrocarbons in water that if you used a contract lab as a control, you better check the entire lab proceedure and make certain that their equipment was in compliance with the bureau of standards. Got bit more than once by labs claiming to be able to meet this standard and then found they could not.
I really enjoyed the testimony about the dogs. They independently hit by the playhouse and in the car trunk.
I don’t think Caylee drowned. This is the defense teams theory that they wish the jury to accept. Just why the dogs hit at the playhouse adds some unknowns. Did Casey at one time place the body there thinking that she could hide it under the house? IDK.
Ragdoll
Baez is going to claim they placed Caylee’s body in front of the playhouse after retrieving her from the pool.
I don’t know how fast the odor of decomposition appears after death. I would think it would begin soon in the warm Florida temperatures. If it is an hour or more, then I think the state will provide evidence that refutes the defense position.
This whole drowning scene does not compute. How would any parent of a child Caylee’s age not watch carefully if there is a pool in the yard?
I see that Greta has Dr. Baden on her show tonight. She is claiming that the State has left a real appeals issue by using Dr. Vass. Dr. Baden just claimed he had never seen a dog be able to hit on a decomposing body or where one had been if other decomposing material was present.
I don’t know about that guy (Baden). He is not as bad as Henry Lee, but comes close sometimes.
During one of the sidebars, HLN had on Casey Jordan (criminologist) and she was talking about some of Dr. Vass’s earlier testimony.
One of her comments specifically stood out to me which I have never heard before. She said that heat (especially heat like the FL sun) will degrade DNA. Anyone know if this is fact true? Very interesting if it is, which might explain why no DNA was actually found in the trunk. I always wondered how that could be the case considering everything else we know about decomposing bodies.
Correct.
B
@ ATG
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Baez is/was delibertly creating the side bars during the questioning of Dr. Vass by the state. This was done to break the stream of information to the jury so they had a harder time understanding.
AGREED!!! I noticed that the witnesses would be somewhat distracted and lose their train of thought, myself. It would seem Baez was trying to break the momentum of questioning to confuse the witness and the jury. Unfortunately, for him, that’s the best he can bring to the table. His line of questioning seems convoluted, confusing and long winded, imo. His inability to grasp the subject is quite pathetic too. It shows when the expert witness states “I don’t understand your question.” I am convinced he did not effectively prepare himself for this trial. He has had some sharp moments, just not enough of them.
I appreciate you sharing up your observations, ATG. Thank you.
Hello Midwest Mom-
Before I attempt an answer to your question – I would like to ask you a more pertinent question…at least in my mind-
Since Jose Baez got up and spoke for Casey in the opening statements- claiming that little Caylee Anthony drowned accidentally in her family’s backyard swimming pool- and was found dead- in the pool by her grandfather George- who then removed her from the pool and held her in his arms as Casey came back around from the side of the house… grabbed Caylee’s lifeless body from George, and began crying and crying and crying…begging George for help- after he yelled at her and told her she would go to jail for child neglect…to which her father took Caylee’s body and disposed of it somewhere …
If this is the truth of what really happened to little Caylee …
Why didnt the dogs alert to the pool? Why did one IIRC alert next to the pool box?- and why did they alert to the corner near the playhouse and sandbox? From Baez own words Caylee was never on the ground or the box ect… George held dead Caylee, then Casey did, then George took her lifeless body & did away with her,… in an area that was unknown to Casey….and could not be found by searchers LE ect, but that somehow Roy Kronk had discovered.
That to me, makes no sense- Baez said today that there is no dispute that a dead body was in that backyard (LDB rightfully objected to this commentary)…when in reality according to him, Caylee was never lying anywhere in that back yard dead- she was in the water and she was in her grandfather’s arms and then her mothers and then finally back to George…
That is the real question that needs to be answered why isnt the evidence and testimony supporting Casey’s account if it is the TRUTH?
- MidwestMom- now, I’ll try to answer your question- First, I am unsure of what time period you are questioning… Do you mean after Caylee’s remains were found and the dog supposedly did not alert to the remains site?
If so, then Deputy Forgey answered this question- just today- he testified that when the dog was brought to the remains site, it wanted to go to “the source” which little Caylee had been found and I think by then removed- so Forgy didnt want Gerus to go to full alert for her body–He was asking the dog to instead help locate little Caylee’s missing bones- which he said he thought 2 bones were missing, and they were small- Gerus did not find them- as Forgey said , he believes the bones may have been taken away from the area by animals….IMO sadly, they were swallowed- by scavenging animals sorry, but that is what I believe happened.
So after little Caylees remains were found Gerus DID alert to the site- Forgey prevented him from a final alert to “the source”-
However, if your question was IRT Before Caylee was found and when she was missing…I believe the dogs did not find little Caylee there because they were not there- they were never sent out to search that exact area. In fact IIRC Forgey said just today, that he was working on this case and had went on several “tip” calls- none were mentioned to be that of the remains site- and JB never stated or insinuated that they were…
To me, just because a dog is in the neighborhood ie in the A’s backyard – “working” does not mean that the handlers gave these K-9s free reign to walk and go where ever their noses lead them- My goodness if the dogs were constantly in “work mode” they and the their handlers would never get any rest…& as Forgey stated today, he let Gerus off the lead -in the A’s yard -because it was an enclosed area.
Hope this answered your question MWMom- I tried my best
The truth is- only Casey knows the answers- and IMO she did not tell her team the truth- if she had, all of the evidence and testimony would be supporting her account – not detracting from it, or disproving it.
I realize that we still need to hear the defenses case- but as of now, or if they “rest” without supplying a retort thru evidence & testimony- IMO they will not win freedom for their client- they simply have not shown reasonable doubt- as nothing I have heard so far supports Casey’s account of June 16th
AJMO
ps I just wanted to point out that Gerus had never given a “false positive”
In all the time Forgery had worked with him he never alerted to an area that a body or evidence ect was not found.
Casey Anthony’s backyard, near the sandbox and the playhouse is the ONLY time Gerus alerted to an area where a body or evidence was not later recovered…
Does everyone understand the significance of that? I sure hope the jury does…
For the life of me I do not understand why Jose Baez went into such a detailed, yet meandering opening statement…
He says he does not dispute that a dead body ie poor little Caylee was in the backyard- dead…however he DID take alot of time to go to GREAT lengths to do just that- dispute what Deputy Forgey testified to and what Gerus alerted to in the back yard…
Does that make any sense?
BTW that poor man that drowned, who Gerus and Forgey found, the one that was captured on video…Forgey testified that the body had not surfaced yet- it was submerged “still”…which to me bolsters my previous comment regarding George not having enough time to “rescue” little Caylee from the pool -if she was dead,drowned- to my understanding- she would have been submerged at that point- and would have needed to be brought up and out of the water….
AJMO
Air samples were being done in 2006. Here is an abstract of scientific work done in Hamburg, reported in Forensic Science International.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S037907380700134X
Carpet squares, not in direct contact with corpse, at 2 and 10 minute intervals, proved nearly 100 percent accurate.
This isn’t rocket science and I hope the jury understands this very well.
Thanks very much for posting that Word Girl, good read.
B
After listening and reading all this very well walked through testimony from LE, medical, etc professionals, I can’t help but wonder if Casey’s parents are looking at her in shocking disbelief that their flesh and blood could do such a cold and disturbing act…killing Caylee and leaving her in the trunk and going on with her life as if nothing had happened. I think I would have to be tranquilized due to trauma from all that I am hearing regarding my precious granddaughter.
What a sick, senseless act. Children are a gift from God. Casey is evil and I hope she begs God for mercy on her soul. As you said Blink, I leave it to God as to how he chooses to respond.
MoM3- I agree with your review of Gerus & Deputy Forgey. Late last night as I was watching the videos, I was yelling yea, that’s right out loud as my family slept-lol. I think he did an excellent job under pressure from both sides. I also think he made it clear he was deeply disturbed that he was not able to find ALL of the remains of this baby for her grandparents. I believe he glanced their way while testifying.
I have never in my personal life heard anyone question that which K-9′s do, they are generally treated as heroes. I think Baez had no good reason to dispute the issue as you MoM mentioned above, it only added attention where he did not need it. JMO.
Is anyone else in awe of the profound and amazing amount of knowledge and education these professional expert witnesses have explained in thorough, step by step detail. All of their efforts that they have taken in order to bring to light and provide justice for this little girl Caylee. All because of that smug, stonefaced, narcisistic, sociopathic Liar.
The prosecution is doing an awesome job in walking the jury and all of us, through the journey taken by these experts, of tracing every step of Casey’s sick attempt to cover up her disturbingly guilt free acts of trying to cover up the murder of her innocent child.
I am so thankful for these people. They are heroes in my eyes. I just hope that they know how much their knowledge and time dedicated to this little angel and others means to so many of us who are heartbroken for those who are taken from this world in such a senseless and cruel way.
Hello all-
Eloise – hey-thanks for sharing your thoughts and I agree they are heroes and I do not understand the defense’s insistence on questioning their hits-
Todays proceedings Bones handler was on the stand-
Bones DID NOT alert near the Pool or the pool box- He alerted to the same general area that Bones did- near the sandbox and the playhouse-
Repeat- Bones DID NOT ALERT near the pool
Computer expert lady up on stand- testifying to user accounts and searches ect of Anthonys-
LDB just beginning the questioning of this expert.
Hello In Memory of Gini- Yes I too am in awe of the knowledge and professionalism
AJMO
Is Bill Schaeffer watching? He just said the exact opposite, that the “hits” close to the pool help the defense.
B
@Is Bill Schaeffer watching? He just said the exact opposite, that the “hits” close to the pool help the defense.
B
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and he also referred to the K9 Officers with the wrong names & I was surprise Kathi B. didn’t correct him..
Uhhh- I don’t think I misheard the handlers testimony….
Someone besides me can confirm that Bones handler said he did not alert to the pool box or next to the pool – right?
Blink Eloise a nana2 someone anyone?
I often listen to and like BS AND KB recaps- but Sometimes Bill S
and Kathi B- get my dander up- today, according to a poster on THM they also were discussing the chlorine in the A’s pool, possibly being a reason for the chloroform in the trunk…
The A’s DID NOT use chlorine in their pool- this fact has been known for a very long time right?
AJMO
Mom 3.0 is fired up today, I love it.
Bones Handler= Kristin Brewer (however trained by Forgey)
Gerus Handler= Jason Forgey
I am re-reviewing both handlers for my update piece now.
B
Bill Schaeffer is watching and providing analysis on WFTV.com’s live stream.
Just an FYI for anyone who wants to watch. They have 2 cameras; 1 for the trial and 1 on Casey. Unfortunatelly, the live blog goes with it and can be distracting.
http://www.wftv.com/index.html
(click on red area on top that says FOLLOW LIVE BLOG. Click ‘play on both screens. I mute Casey’s screen so there’s no double audio).
Love y’all!
It appears that JB and Co. are trying to use an “OJ” defense. In that trial a very large volume of evidence of Mr. Simpson’s guilt was presented. No evidence of his innocence was presented. The defense, however, was able to confuse the jury to such an extent that the scientific evidence was ignored, the police were written off as racist baboons, and the only evidence actually considered was the timing of the barking dog (who was never called to the stand by the way!
and the timeline created by the limo driver. JB may think he is working for an acquittal, but I suspect the goal of the senior members is to create enough doubt, and confusion counts as doubt, to get a conviction on a lesser charge (neglect, manslaughter, etc). Every objection and side-bar adds to jury confusion.
I am somewhat put off by this whole trial. To me, “Justice for Caylee” would consist of the presentation of facts, and competent representation on both sides. I can find no plausible scenario in which Casey did not cause the death of Caylee. This stated, however, Casey should be convicted based solely on evidence, not the fact that the prosecutors are smarter than the defense lawyers.
@ ATG
Baez is contradicting himself. He wants to imply that the dogs are capable of false positives AND create doubtthat there was no decomp OR body in the backyard. IIRC, he also said there was NO body in the backyard in his opening statement (please correct me if I’m wrong). George held a dead Caylee in his arms. I don’t recall him elaborating that he and Casey tried to cover it up by hiding Caylee’s body in the backyard.
It doesn’t make sense. If anything, it Baez thought this through, he could have maintained that there were attempts to hide Caylee’s body in the backyard. Essentially, he’s left us (me anyways) with the impression that Caylee went from George’s arms, to Kronk disposing of the body.
From what I’ve observed, Baez has said there was no body in that backyard….just in the pool. There’d be no decomp in or near the pool, unless George and Casey just left her there. None of this makes sense. These are broken pieces of a made up story that do not fit together.
Please correct me if I’m wrong.
<3
Former prosecutor Wendy Murphy is now entertaining doubts that Casey Anthony will be convicted.
Today Show Interview:
http://tinyurl.com/3pw28nh
There are more errors in that entire report than I know swear words, and lemme tell ya, I know a few.
Perhaps someone can sharpen Ms. Murphy’s knowledge of the case, ftlog.
Her car was not missing and the prosecution has not given a 3 day span for Caylee’s death.
Oye vey.
B
I confess, yes I am fired up.
Thanks Blink- especially for reminding me of Ms. Brewer’s name- I appreciate it-
I just rewatched the portions of Kristin Brewers testimony that are available on WFTV-
She DID testify to LDB that Bones alerted to one area in the backyard- the same general area that Gerus had alerted to earlier. Both dogs giving a final trained alert near playhouse/sand box area-
Here is the video-
With luck I will post it before tonights show, lol.
NO hits by the pool!
B
http://www.wftv.com/video/28169770/index.html
Discussed portion of importance found between 22:40- 20:48-
I think BS might be referring to areas that the dog showed slight interest in, but did not give a trained alert to-
Not sure though. Still waiting for other vids to go up to rewatch…
Blink, I Cant wait to read your new article. I bet its gonna be good- I still remember your last article on these pooches- snark abounded -definitely a memorable one for both the info and the humor.
AJMO
Mom3.0 says:
June 8, 2011 at 11:37 am
I don’t want to start anything. I do agree with Mom. Bones’ handler said there was no hit on the pool. One hit was near the playhouse. The other hit was in the southeast area of the backyard.
That is my understanding and respectfully submitted.
Ragdoll
I agree with you. The statements Mr. Baez made in opening did not specifically include or exclude the possibility that Caylee was placed on the ground after “removal from the pool”.
When you use a made up story, it is hard to keep enough facts straight so that thinking people will not find the holes.
The real give away on this story to me is that in the opening statement about the drowning in the pool contained nothing regarding any attempts at revival of Caylee or a call for help. If George found the child drowned as claimed, he would have called 911 and immediately began CPR. That whole opening statement by the defense reaks of Casey’s input base on her warped sense of truth.
Bones handler, Kirstin Brewer, testified that she returned with Bones the following day and found the area in front of the playhouse to be disturbed by investigators. Bones did not get a hit that day. I remember some video taken early in the case and shown on TV of the investigators moving the playhouse and digging up the area looking for evidence.
I was watching Casey while the dective was on the stand testifying on the information found on the camera, cell phone and computers. She was quite suprised to find that LE has tools that can get information from phones, digital cameras and computing devices.
Most young people have grown up with digital devices and are good about knowning how to use them. However, they have no idea of the real technology that make the device work.