The Dana Pretzer Show On Scared Monkeys Radio – Wednesday July 6, 2011 – Special Guests: Blink from Blink on Crime, Pat Brown & Tim Miller Discussing the Shocking Casey Anthony “Not Guilty” Verdict … Where is the Justice? (PODCAST UPDATED)
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Dana welcomes special guests:
- Crime blogger Blink from Blink on Crime will be discussing the shocking jury verdict of “not guilty” in the murder trial of Casey Anthony. In a head spinning decision, the jury in Orlando, FL took 10 hours of deliberations and came back with a “not guilty” verdict which begs the questions, is it “reasonable” that a jury could have watched the same trial everyone else did and let the tot mom skate on all major accounts … where is the Justice for Caylee? Blink will add her analysis and insight as to what occurred.
Pat Brown - Criminal profiler will be discussing the murder trial of Casey Anthony and yesterdays shocking verdict. Pat will provide her expert opinion as to Casey Anthony. The jury found her not guilty, but if not Casey, then who? What will Pat’s reaction be to Casey Anthony skating on all major charges. How did Casey Anthony walk?
Tim Miller – the founder of Texas Eqqusearch (TES) joins Dana to discuss his reaction to the Casey Anthony verdict, was it much different from the wild goose chase and runaround that TES received when conducted the searches for Caylee Anthony.
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I’ll bet KC regrets getting that tattoo now no matter how she changes her looks the tat will give her away..
Just curious:
If you believe chloroform was used..
1. How did she get it?
2. Do you think she made it herself?
3. In your opinion why wasn’t that addressed during the trial?
TIA,
Peggy
@Nana2 I believe they did just that
@ A Texas Grandfather
The reason that I opined that Tony was “a poor piece of humanity” was the fact that he didn’t want to have children around, but he was willing to take advantage of the free sex and to party with Casey. Tony took advantage of Casey’s wanting him to be “her guy”.
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Tony IMO was doing what a lot of young college & non college guys do & it was a one sided relationship IMO, KC thought it was ‘love’ & Tony just wanted a bed partner. KC wasn’t hip enough to see that I’m from NY & unfortunately its common there but obvious if you the signs. Besides, most of the college students that come here to Florida from other states don’t tend to make permanent relationships with their girl friends here but KC was constantly on the look out for that. Most of the college students go back home after graduation & I’m sure that came up in pillow talk between the two especially since that time was approaching. Tony still had his future ahead of him & who knows may have also had a girl friend on Long Island where he lives (my old hometown) but he’s not a 10 in my book.
Blink here is the link if allowed to Rascal Flatts Caylee tribute song. http://wyrk.com/listen-to-caylee-anthony-tribute-song-by-rascal-flatts-gary-levox/
Redacted Guy,
You must be new here. Welcome to Blink on Crime.
I debated about responding to your post–”getting into the pool,”
so to speak. Even if I guaged the trajectory of my dive to its most
horizontal position, my head would never be the same.
For now, I can ‘scroll and roll’ and understand that we all have different opinions which some express crassly and others, sublimely.
RG, I hope you’ll read here at BOC. Can I ask a favor, though?
Please be sensitive to those of us who care so very much for this
little girl, whether we are alphas, betas, or zetas.
Our hearts are, collectively, broken.
Pass along- URGENT
—Simon & Schusteris is offering Cindy Anthony a $3 million dollar book deal. Tell them how you feel about that!
….copy and paste letter, or draft your own and send it to
http://www.simonandschuster.com/about/contact_us
“Dear Simon & Schuster,
I will not be buying, watching, supporting, anything to do with George, Cindy, or Casey Anthony profiting from the death of their granddaughter. Casey Anthony is a baby killer. She deserves to be in jail the rest of her life. The jury failed at convicting her of 1st degree murder. Anything to do with the selling of Caylee Marie Anthony’s story to the media is disgusting. No one should be profiting off of a murder of a 2 year old little girl. Please boycott anything to do with the Anthony’s profiting off of the murder of their granddaughter! ALL of my family and friends feel the same way & we are outraged that anyone would want to offer them a cool $3 million for any book deal. The fact the family is nothing but liars how could anyone take them seriously? This would just be a BOOK OF LIES! This is ridiculous & will be boycotted.
Thank you for your time.
YOUR NAME
(your city and state)
PS: Never ask a liar for their side of the story… because that’s ALL you’ll get, THEIR side… which, by the way, is another lie.
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@ Peggy
They are all posted. Only 50 show at a time. Please check “older comments”
Nojustice I am going to ask you to link that information.
How anyone can think that Cindy and George are not up to their ears in obstruction – perjury and possibly involved in whatever sad accident or crime happened is beyond me. How Casey is “more guilty” than these two based on the evidence is beyond me. assume there is/ was a body in the car – take it as fact even…. they released the car to George, is the car in his name, did he have keys, was he driving it, and did he put the body there?
Someone told Cindy what happened at some point in time, she knows the story that is self-evident to me. How long did she lie for ? It seems more likely she would lie for George than Casey, and only for Casey because George was involved, after all she turned in for check charges clearly she would clearly turn her in for murder if she acted alone.
the whole family has issues and the parents on some level are more responsible for that dynamic than casey
@WPG says:
July 9, 2011 at 1:22 pm
nana2,
The duct taping brings to mind story#2 regarding Blanchard Park and how Nanny/Zanny/Zanaida grabbed her by the arms/wrists and held her down . . . weaves the truth into her lies.
Can’t remember by who, but Jeff Ashton was asked about the fight on the 15th and he acknowledged it but said they couldn’t prove it. I think part of this truth about the fight was also woven into the Blanchard Park story.
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Absolutely.. Some of the words KC stated that were said by the nanny at Blanchard were the same words Cindy yelled at her in the 6/15 fight or is what was reported by neighbors. KC had told Lee during a jail visit that nanny yelled ‘she was an unfit mother & she was going to take Caylee away from her to teach her a lesson’(pp. Cindy & KC denied that fight according to Ashton on a TV interview last week which is why they couldn’t use it at trial.
Thanks Blink. I just checked and comments are still in moderation.
Maybe it’s just my computer, lol.
peggy says:
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July 8, 2011 at 5:18 pm
19.-Jerry Springer. How fitting!
21.- “Still say 100% this video should’ve been allowed to have been released into evidence before the trial. So much the “jury” never knew about. How they can defend their sorry verdict, I will never know.”
I 100% agree, but tech. it wasn’t supposed to be released at all–yet somehow the transcript was released (prosecutors said it was a mistake, “it was an accident”), so we basically know what transpired and what Casey allegedly did or said despite the fact it was sealed. Whether any of the jurors knew about that is anyone’s guess, hard to say.
Ever wonder why it wasn’t in the trial? The state and LE knows darn tootin’ well that was in violation of federal law.
34.-I read the petition, I seriously doubt that will work–I do not believe that law applies (“Martha Stewart Law”)–that really pertains to so-called white collar crimes, such as falsifying documents, lying about falsifying documents and undeclared monies.
I have also seen a petition for a civil rights violation—can someone please tell me what civil rights have been violated? What happened to Caylee is horrible but civil rights violations are usually about discrimination based on race, sexual orientation or gender.
Peggy
peggy says:
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July 8, 2011 at 5:29 pm
20.- John Morgan is just another one of the vultures looking for his slice of the pie.
He’s a lair to boot–just the other day he said she lost her job b/c of this but in a previous interview (the one from his office) he stated she was ‘in between” jobs.
And, she was getting evicted prior to this case, which is why she was looking at apartments–she did not get evicted b/c of Casey Anthony.
John Morgan isn’t stupid, he knows darn well what kind of publicity this will bring him–it really has very little to do with ZG and more to do with him jumping on the gravy train.
JMHO
Peggy
peggy says:
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July 8, 2011 at 5:58 pm
13.-
You’re right, who can’t be choosy–but, other than Geraldo, who was critical of the state? Considering all of the press and media coverage on this case–a very teeny tiny amount was pro-defense, 99.9% were pro prosecution.
Peggy
6.nana2 says:
July 9, 2011 at 12:08 pm
@ hunteres says:
July 9, 2011 at 9:07 am
I think Caseypuy duct tape on Caylee threw CayLee in the pool in a fit of rage after the fight with cindy on fathers day
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I think back in time to when my children were Caylee’s age the 2′s the terrible 2′s & how they were always so antsy I couldn’t keep them still long enough to put their socks & shoes on, it was a challenge. In my mind trying to put even one piece of duct tape on a 2yr olds mouth would be a challenge let alone 3 pieces because you would be fighting the child’s natural instinct to get loose or free.
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Good point, Nana. But, unfortunately, I can envision so many scenarios. Perhaps she put the duct tape on while Caylee was napping, then walked out of the room. Perhaps she duct-taped Caylee while she was partially restrained in her car seat. A child that small is no match for a person who is determined to silence her.
@ WG
Thank you for articulating your request for respect the way you did. I sat here, wanting to express that very sentiment but couldn’t find the words.
May I add….I truly encourage everyone with their own theories to read through Blink’s blogs. She had work feverishly to ‘connect the dots’, and when possible, provide unique, factual information from resources connected to Caylees’s murder. There is a WEALTH of facts and information our new friends may not be familiar with.
ATG is old school and that is why we love him so so much!
Again, my gratitude to Word Girl…another BOC treasure XO
Blink – I have tried numerous times to listen to the Dana Pretzer Podcast but my pc freezes part way through each time. Is there a problem with it to your knowledge.
Can anyone put me out of my misery and tell me that some kind of action is being taken against ANY of the Anthonys of the defense team? I am still so miserable about the decision; I can’t believe there were actually 12 VILLAGE IDIOTS comprising the Jury!!!
Did anyone notice allllll the note taking Cindy was doing in court? She was there every sing day, with her notepad and paper. At one point, I could of sworn she was taking notes while she was on stand. She is 100% for sure, writing a book.
It’s rumored to be Publisher’s Simon and Schuster all over the web, however back in 2009 they denied any book offers.
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/casey-anthony-case-george-and-cindy-anthony-may-have-book-deal-with-simon-and-schuster
“(2011) Mrs. Anthony has secured a six figure cash advance, for a yet unnamed title. The tomb, is set to be published by a major publishing house, and released in late summer.”
http://www.examiner.com/la-in-los-angeles/source-cindy-anthony-to-be-the-first-major-book-out-of-the-gate#ixzz1Rdi6vL8l
(how does a book deal work? Get a 6 figure cash advance, then millions once the book goes live and the author goes on a book signing tour)?? How will Cindy be able to show her face around this country at local Barnes and Nobles?
@ Peggy….
Casey worked at a dry cleaners. She had access to it…rest assured. Also, may I ask how you ignore the results proving the presence of chloroform in the trunk?
Blink has made it clear, that in her own opinion, chloroform was not used on Caylee. However, the state needed to connect the chloroform to Casey. It was most likely used to clean out the trunk and eliminate the smell.
I’m not as gracious as Word Girl. Most of us have been posting here from the beginning. This is not one of those sites where you lambaste opinions b/c you simply don’t agree. We don’t humour trolling but respect goes a long long way. If this site presents opinions you’re completely opposed to, perhaps BOC is not for you. Everything you’ve brought up has been challenged between posters to the high heaven. These are not new questions to BOC.
Respectfully submitted, friend.
Why yes, I think chloroform was used. And yes, I think she made it. It was addressed in the trial. She googled “how to make chloroform.” Most people don’t need it spelled out for them any more than that.
While of course a simplification, I appreciated Marcia Clark’s article, and I think I mostly agree with it. I can understand how/why a jury might not convict on the 1st degree, but after that I’m bewildered. While I’m not sure about the sequestration effect, group dynamics certainly must have played a part. I have often been amazed at how much the addition or subtraction of a single individual can change the dynamics of a group. Sometimes, just changing the seating arrangement can make a big difference. Group decision-making is an especially sensitive aspect of group dynamics, in my experience. I’m pretty sure that we will never understand what happened by only considering the evidence they were presented and the 11 hours of deliberation. So, Marcia’s probably correct that the sequestration played a role. But what’s the alternative in today’s media-saturation?
Perhaps there would be some way to have jurors still with their families and friends, but electronically monitored. Sort of like an alcohol monitor but for media–things like the defendant’s name or Nancy Grace’s voice could set it off. The CIA and DIA probably have the tech needed. (Mostly kidding, but some out-of-the-box thinking may be needed.)
Nana2,
Thanks
ATG,
You are correct, a lot has changed over two generations. And unfortunately now it is the Alpha male who is celebrated while back in your time it was the Beta male who reigned.
Ragdoll,
In every interview or deposition that I have seen, Jesse states that it was Casey who broke off their engagement. Please post a link that contradicts this.
Word Girl,
Please be a little clearer about what bothered you. If it was the snotty nosed comment (which is a quote from Casey) then I would strongly disagree with you. I see no reason to play down or minimize the horrible thing that Casey did to Caylee. I feel that it was this type of squeamishness and cowardly inability to face the truth that led the jury to acquit her.
Also, what are your credentials?
slinkytester. Where you been?
B
Texas Grandfather, I agree completely with your post above about the Alpha and Beta guys and the women who do not want a “nester”.
I worked at a career center at a Jr. College many years ago and I saw then that some of the most beautiful, the smartest (well, with good grades, anyhow) and the most socially desirable girls were snuggling a mile a minute with young guys who were simply Alpha louts.
I couldn’t believe it. No smarts and no ambition in these guys. Wanted to find a job where they didn’t have to work. All the while the females who had no common sense were hanging on to them for dear life through the guy’s counseling sessions showing him many displays of affection even during the interviews. Hard to take!
I did want to add that Tony Lazzaro told Casey in a text or phone message that he didn’t want to raise DAUGHTERS. He had sisters and he knew what troubles they caused. He only wanted boys.
Tony said later somewhere (sorry can’t link) that he only told that “daughter” thing to Casey to “cool” her down some because she was getting a little serious too fast.
In other words, he thought he was being kind and giving her “a hint” that he was not seriously thinking of taking her to NY to meet the folks. Probably never. Casey didn’t have a history of hanging on to one guy. I personally think she always got DUMPED because the real Casey emerged some time in the realtionships.
Jesse Grund broke off their relationship soon after they met in Jan. 2005 because he said Casey was “too clingy”. He was only 22 and couldn’t make commitments of a marital nature. He only took her up again in June because she told him he was the father of her baby.
Now Tony was not the smartest bean in the bag, but she had plans, I think, to use him to get away from Cindy.
At the same time, she was texting another potential boyfriend Will Waters (sort of on the waiting list to hot-trot with her) that she just didn’t know whether she could give up her very successful career and life in Orlando to go to NY with Tony when he graduated. “Even though I really like this kid. He’s really gotten to me” or words to that effect.
Tony Lazzarro didn’t show me much. No, he didn’t think his apt. which was a bachelor and party hang out, quite proper for a 2 year old, I give him that, at least as far as we know he didn’t have Caylee in bed with him and Casey so Brownie points, maybe, but then he couldn’t stay in bed with Mumsie every day all day with little chicks around, now could he?
Tony didn’t mind having sex with Casey in the boudoir while they both left Caylee to open the apt.door to strangers and roam unsupervised on Tony’s balcony. (Maria Kish’s testimony.) Can you imagine what could have happened to Caylee even earlier in the case?
One of Tony’s roomies said that Casey acted OBSESSED with Tony. And talk of Tony eventaully leaving for NY made her start her cooking, cleaning and laundry maid service around the apartment.
The prosecution kind of missed a bet in using Tony as one motive for the demise of little Caylee…along with a couple of other motives like intense hatred for Mom and Dad and a desire to have some gent support her far, far away from Cindy.
(Sorry for the length of this.)
One thing we know for sure; we didn’t have social networking access back in the OJ days, early 1990s, that we have now. We, the people of America, are not going to sit back and take this injustice. The Casey Anthony jury spoke, but the people need to be heard. I, as many of you, was shaken to the core when the verdict was handed down. My belief in our justice system was shot down. My heart sank for justice.
“Thank you” to people like Blink for having blogs like this to help us communicate on our feelings, our thoughts, our ideas. Even though the Internet has many qualities I don’t care for …I do have to say that I am inspired to see how people on twitter, facebook, youtube and blogs are coming together to unite for the Justice of sweet little Caylee. We are not backing down we are shouting from the rooftops, we are going to get things changed. I doubt any company or corporation will ever be able to profit off of the Anthony family. Just like Jeff Ashton said, ‘Ignore the Anthony family’. Oh we will and so will over 60% of Americans, which is the stat of Americans that think Casey is guiltyy of murder (not manslaughter, but murder).
Thank you for letting me vent and say my thoughts.
@Eloise “Why would you need evidence that was erroneous? I would almost liken it to doing a pregnancy test on a male. Yea, you have the result but it is meaningless.”
The qualitative testing of chloroform proved it was there…a “yes” or “no”…a quantitative test would have given exact amounts of chloroform that would have enabled people to see if the choloroform was a by product of organic matter or if it was in a higher concentration, ergo: purer form.
To me it makes a difference.
Where have the sharp tongued posters come from? Where were they over the past 3 years when, with Blink’s monitoring and selfless work a genuine blog site was created for Caylee Anthony. Suddenly I no longer feel so welcome here to express my thoughts and to read and respond to posters. Many of Blinks faithfull are still posting but it appears they are having to continually jump to someone’s or something’s defense; to take issue with the tone of the ‘visitor’. It would seem that many new posters have recently discovered BOC and are using the platform to press gang everyone to their views or to cause dissent amongst our ranks. This is so obviously a blog in support of Justice for Caylee so what is the purpose of coming here only to rant against our beliefs? Blink, you are still my hero, I hope you have thick enough skin to let some of the sarcasm and criticism roll off. JMO ps. Blink, I do have one question though that has been bugging me. Way back I posted that possibly the ’4th’ piece of tape found at the site away from the remains might have a print on it and you responded that (pp) you weren’t at liberty to talk about it at that time but it would come into play. Nothing was ever mentioned again about the seperate piece of tape. Was it a red herring??
Without access to my notes at the moment, your exactly right. It was my understanding from a source that indicated there were partial latents, which were deemed unusable as they did not maintain the 16 pt standard.
I was not the only journalist who reported that, and it is not the only piece of evidence, that for whatever reason, did not come in.
B
I love this NY Times piece on the trial characters & outcome..x incisive, beautiful writer:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/opinion/sunday/10bruni.html
and, Grund’s father, on CNN video on line, was informative & likeable.
Rose, I held your comment so I could respond personally.
Hands Down, this is the BEST op ed piece I have seen on this case, since the verdict and I absolutely had writer envy.
OUTSTANDING.
I told Mr. Bruni so:
Mr. Bruni-
Having covered this case for 3 years, I found myself envious of your prose acuity. And then I realized, you were speaking to me avuncularly, so I appreciate that as well.
That said, you had me at “creepy lawyer.”
Stellar piece, sincerely.
Dr. Vass said the levels of chloroform were 10,000 HIGHER than he has ever seen in what he has come to expect from over 20 years of studying human decomposition.
One of the defense experts basically agreed with this chloroform finding, saying the levels he detected were higher than those found in household cleaning products.
Even with the “the parts per billion, parts per million” testimonies,
one could draw there own conclusions that there was WAY TOO MUCH CHLOROFORM in the trunk that was “innocent” in nature, without having to know if there was a tablespoon of it or an 1/8 ounce of it.
A huge spike or peak on a graph where ordinarily there would be a much smaller readout, indicates to me an ALARM BELL has gone off and shouldn’t be ignored.
That jury was NOT paying attention.
That one alternate who had the ignorance to doubt the smell of human decomposition existed or that there was ever a dead little body in that trunk, IMO, thought he was superior to Jeff Ashton and all the State’s experts INCLUDING THE K9′S – - – and he was gonna teach this case in his wittle bittie class. IMO, egooooooooooo.
Still wonder if he “schooled” his opinions to the other jurors prior to deliberation, prior to him knowing he was an alternate – - – or if had any prior knowledge that he was indeed an alternate.
@ redacted
- Jesse Grund 7/7/2011
“We met while I was working at Universal Studios in December of 2004…We met, kind of one of those love at first sight moments…she was very quiet, she was reserved, she was fun to be around…I ended it soon afterwards…I was only 22 at the time…we remained friends for notification that I was potentially gonna’ be the father of her child.”
http://www.famoushookups.com/site/relationship_detail.php?name=Casey-Anthony&relid=13139&celebid=16160
Now show me yours.
But the testing of chloroform-a volatile- cannot be accurately tested quantitatively b/c it is continuously evaporating. So the result would not be accurate. We already know it was in parts/million.
Here is a snip of an excellent article at Hinky by JWG:
A quantitation of chloroform was attempted, but the chloroform seen in the Florida carpet sample was much greater than the purchased standard. Increasing the standard concentration by a larger injection volume would have required injecting too much methanol and would have overwhelmed the signal. Looking at the integrated areas under the peaks, the control carpet had approximately 10,270 area counts and the Florida trunk sample had approximately 386,200,000 area counts. 10ng of injected standard yielded an area count of approximately 8,240,000 indicating that the Florida trunk sample had an amount of chloroform present which was in the low parts per million range.
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/04/30/a-million-times/
Here is another article snipped showing exactly the procedure and technique that Vass used.
Quantitation – The analysis results can be quantified using the data from the chromatogram. The area under each peak in the chromatogram is proportional to the concentration of the ompounds represented by that peak. The concentration for each compound in the sample is calculated from a standard curve of known concentrations established for that compound. The analysis sensitivity can be as low as a few nanograms.
http://74.6.238.254/search/srpcache?ei=UTF-8&p=can+volitile+gases+be+quantified%3F&fr=mcafee&u=http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=can+volitile+gases+be+quantified%3f&d=4588309502561467&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=20a1fe7c,7de611da&icp=1&.intl=us&sig=Kp8oj9gKR.4PGv4w8CKLNQ–
Maybe it’s me, but it is my understanding that this is the most accurate end result possible given the sample, volatile and time frame they were given the sample.
Just to add, the alternate thought it was “garbage’. Seems he believed every single thing the defense had to say and not one thing the State presented. Not cool, very very odd. This “teacher” seemed to discount every piece of scientific evidence, almost mocking it, IMO.
Blink – this may be off topic and if so I apologize, please let me know where I can post it.
This was posted on my facebook. Not sure if anyone has seen it, but bring tissues (lots of them!) and please pass it on.
“Snipped” Rascal Flatts‘ lead singer, Gary LeVox, co-penned a tribute song called ‘She’s Going Places’ to the little girl.
http://tasteofcountry.com/rascal-flatts-gary-levox-caylee-anthony-song/
While everyone is still trying to make sense of this verdict, I am about sick of hearing how the Prosecution didn’t present a first degree murder case. I guess I would have been the hold out, the one to hang. What I will criticize the SAO for is not calling out the lies and behaviors of the other Anthony’s throughout this case. I think they spared them as much as possible, b/c….? they didn’t want to kick a dog who is already down, are respectful and/or didn’t think they needed to get into the gutter as other people did? I do think they needed to have gotten down to grade school level with their forensic evidence to ensure it didn’t get avoided due to it’s complexity, which is what I believe is exactly what happened.
Jennifer Ford says she dismissed chloroform completely b/c she didn’t know what that was about. It’s hard to say whether the SAO made some deals w/ the Anthony’s for their cooperation, like not going into certain areas, I have no idea, but I felt they were tame in comparison to the depos, hearings etc. I don’t believe Casey killed Caylee b/c of Tony. She killed her to have one less reminder by her mother of her faults and failures, true or not. That and her Bella Vita and all that encompassed this life she felt would emerge. I also believe there is something wrong with Lee.
I will say this- I have some neighbors who have 2 boys. I have known the mother due to a link in health care. The two sons have had repeated problems, fighting, lying, school issues. The eldest has been sent off at times to military school, (junior high level) so I don’t know what that means, and the younger has shot my son with a bee-bee gun to name a few. Oh and also hit him in the head with a golf club. Never mind the obvious, but many ask, what is going on in that house that is making them act out? The answer is we will likely never know- but none of it excuses the behavior of those kids. And I guarantee down the road, there will be more violence and elevation in their acts. Can anyone say animal cruelty?
I think Cindy is the sicko in that home and there was continued psychological abuse. It seems both Casey & Lee wanted approval and inclusion from their mother, and instead got criticism. Quite possibly Geo’s door mat attitude let them down as he didn’t do anything to defend himself or them. Caylee truly was a pawn to them all and we still have her having paid with her life.
E, I concur.
In my personal and professional life, like many, I have been in positions where my head had to have persuasive conversations with my heart, and vice-versa. It generally works out, and we go on, “in step”.
Currently, they are acting like strangers in response to this verdict
I have sat down, a multitude of times, to write something, and I would be lying if I said I have gotten any farther than .. “What the eff just happened and who is effing with me?”
Speaking to the brain I say.. ok, maybe not first degree, as in, pre-meditation is nearly impossible to prove in this case, without a COD. Loosely, If I try to be “layjuror” I can see my way to that. It is not my personal feeling, I am just sayin’.
I literally fear for what we will learn went on in deliberating this verdict.
E I know you will not mind if I take a second on your good post for me to address a few of the requests, both respectful, and “not so much” about when I will be talking about my personal work on this case.
My goal, in creating this site, was to inspire advocacy, to “rally” compassionate people with varied skillsets and acumens for a common cause. I have worked on Caylee’s case, encompassing hundreds of investigative and analytical hours for nearly three years. Out of those professional relationships, I have forged many friendships based on trust and integrity.
Again, I apologize to all of you that may find this commentary obvious or rudimentary, but to those that are wanting a National Enquirer laundry list of “who and what I know” chop-chop, you clearly have not been a blinker for long, and I do not do shotglass news.
When I am ready, I hope to tell about my journey in a way that respects Caylee, and inspires advocacy going forward, or frankly, I would be no better than the rest of the folks under the big top.
That ain’t me.
There is a civil case pending, and projects underway, but I take the burden before me seriously.
So help me God, this baby will have the last word, and I do not give a rats ass how many trolls I have to force back under the bridge to give it to her.
heart you E, thanks for letting me hang onto your post when it had nothing to do with you, lol.
B
This case has been a ratings and cash bonanza for HLN. They are desperate to continue it. Right now Dr. Drew and Nancy Grace are doing a full court press to portray Cindy as a sympathic victim. Poor grieving grandmother, poor rejected mother. This is a soft sell so when cindy’s book/movie/baby clothes line comes out it will be accepted and they can interview her again. Poor greiving grandma turns her life around, etc. The public loves an underdog. Belive me, she trademarked Caylee’s name for a purpose. MONEY!! licensing agreements!
Most of us that have followed the case and know of Cinys treachery, beyond the purgery. Good people have had to hire lawyers only because they knew the Anthonys. If this offends you contact HLN and ABC and tell them NO ANTHONYS PERIOD.
bobkealing bob kealing
I’ve not heard that.“@freelancewoman: @bobkealing is it true simonschuster offers cindyanthony $3mill bookdeal?
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I got a text from #CindyAnthony attorney. When asked if she has a book deal w/Simon and Schuster he said “not my clients.” Denies it.
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Just passing along what Mark Lippman just told me“@Judy3113: @bobkealing and when do any of them tell the truth.”
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Uh-oh. Check out this publisher’s Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Simon-Schuster/69611504313?ref=ts?intcmp=z_100402_MC_Facebook_Monopoly
peggy- you asked about ashton’s and judge perry’s mentionong of the lesser charges. i do not remember ashton making too much mention of it, and based on his post verdict interviews, the prosecution had no doubts that the evidence showed pre meditated murder. i respect that they followed their beliefs and didn’t offer arguments to suggest that the jury could “pick” a more lenient charge. when judge perry was reading the charges and instructions i remember thinking it was ALOT of info. which is one of the reasons i am so disappointed that this jury did not ask any questions!!!
on your comments regarding chloroform, like most of the evidence it is circumstantial. as i see it, casey was searching for ways to kill her daughter back in march 2008 (boyfriend commitment issues?) chloroform was repeatedly researched. ultimately she didn’t break caylees neck though it was researched too, the evidence did not show that, it did show high levels of chloroform. her daughter is dead in june, scientific evidence shows decompisition in trunk, hair, odor, and high levels of chloroform. you apparently disagree with the validity of the scientific tests? the chloroform could come from somewhere else? and the duct tape over caylee’s nose and mouth- someone else put it there? and casey’s not reporting anything? indifference due to molestation?
it seems you strongly believe there is reasonable doubt, and i am coming to believe that those who can’t put casey in the guilty seat, just aren’t using any reasoning at all. no offense inteneded.
NoJustice says:
July 9, 2011 at 12:20 pm
The more and more I read from professional legal analyst, lawyers, coorespondents about the aquittal, the more I shake my head in disbelief.
“BRAINWASHED: Marcia Clark Explains Why Casey Anthony Jurors Came Up With The Not Guilty Verdict”
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/brainwashed-marcia-clark-explains-why-casey-anthony-jurors-came-up-with-the-not-guilty-verdict-2011-7#ixzz1Rd1FyzQH
by Marsha Clark (lead prosecution in OJ Simpton Trial)
http://www.businessinsider.com/brainwashed-marcia-clark-explains-why-casey-anthony-jurors-came-up-with-the-not-guilty-verdict-2011-7
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NoJustice,
Thanks so much for posting this link.
(snipped from Marcia Clark’s article):
“. . . Juror Ford said she didn’t believe it was their duty to “connect all the dots,” and that the prosecution was required to answer every question about Caylee’s death, including why and how it was committed.
First of all, there is no such thing as a case in which the prosecution answers every question. It isn’t possible. Second of all, the prosecution doesn’t have to. The prosecution is only required to prove the elements of the crime – and that does not include motive nor does it include cause of death.
Moreover, it is most certainly the jury’s duty to “connect the dots.” The jury is required to consider all of the evidence and to draw the reasonable inferences that evidence suggests. Note I said reasonable – that doesn’t mean concocting scenarios out of thin air based on nothing but a lawyer’s opening statement . . .”
Kudos to Marcia Clark.
Speaking to the question of “why would someone put duct tape over the nose and mouth of a child who was already dead?”: I think Casey Anthony and her defense team have already given us a clue as to how she will address this when she gets her book deal to tell all. The claims of sexual abuse made against George Anthony were pretty specific and graphic: he supposedly put his penis in Casey’s mouth. The duct tape over Caylee’s mouth, the heart-shaped sticker supposedly stuck to the tape…either a psychological/metaphorical “protection” for/”saving” Caylee against the abuse Casey says she suffered as a child, or a metaphorical “release” for this child who I would bet big bucks Casey is going to claim she discovered was being abused by George Anthony, also.
I’m sorry… but if I didn’t know better… I’d swear we’ve been duped. I no longer buy into Anthony’s drama. The best thing for them would for us to simply shun them from society and see how they like it (just as they did towards Caylee– by referring to her Grave Wax as simply nothing but garbage left to cook in the FL sun.
The moral of the story is… Keep your loved ones safe, teach them respect and understanding every chance you get… cause tomorrow may be too late?
I am at peace for Caylee. She is right where she needs to be. It won’t be long and the whole dam family will be behind bars…
I saw this young girl – Jackie Evancho on Piers Morgan tonight and just had to find her on Youtube and share with you all.
I was amazed at her ability to sing “Angel” so beautifully. It made me think of Caylee, of Morgan and of Gini.
Who more fitting to sing a song of comfort than a young Angel like Jackie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwSd6pd5UAQ
For those of you who are not familiar with Gini, she is Gini Orange, a rape and murder victim, and an amazing and gifted young woman the world is at a loss for not having her in it.
B
to the jurors: “Calling on you guys…HUUUUUUGE WASTE.”
@Eloise…I understand that, but the question does arise that if a quantititive anaylis can not be accurately performed, then who is to say the qualitative anaylis is trustworthy?
I’m not arguing for the defense, I’m just saying this is one area where resonable doubt was pointed out and the argument made sense to me. It did not change my “common sense” theory that Caylee was murdered by her mother so that she could go out and party, nor does it change the way I feel in regards to a miscarraige of justice.
Personally I hope they all rot in hell, but until that day I hope every waking moment they have is consumed with Caylee and what was done to her and by whom.
On the surface, I get what your saying, and frankly I can see how a layperson might translate that as it relates to the law. I will say however, I am not hearing the Scientific evidence was even a factor to these jurors, which is flat out scarey.
B
Thank you for telling us about Gini Blink, you always make these victims come alive for those of us that do what we can to help make their lives matter,
I am so excited about this Caylees law, how awsome will this be?
Blink I know this is going to sound corny but was taught by my mom that no question is stupid (lol I wonder how many times she regretted that statement)
If you write a book on this case, what will you put for authors name?
thanks.
Proud Air Force mom _raised my two sons completely alone and a survivor of domestic violence and still missing Nicole Brown……
My name. And as always, thank you for your brave sons service NancyS.
B
This is JMO- I had more respect for jurors when they weren’t talking. Ever since they started speaking out, it just amazes me at the evidence that they didn’t even consider. And yes Blink, I am patienly awaiting your “laudry list.” Enquiring minds want to know. LOL
In memory of Gini….
I’ve heard this little girl’s voice. She reminds me of Charlotte Church.
I wish I could give you a hug. You have my love, prayers and friendship. Words fail me, please forgive me. I cannot imagine the horror of having to relive your worst nightmare as Caylee’s story unfolded. I tip my hat to your courage and advocacy for the voiceless.
@MsEnscene says:
July 9, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Great post! It doesn’t matter who or what type the man is, Casey was on the prowl.
I keep remembering Cindy’s comment about how she seemed ‘normal’ (LOL) until she turned 18. It all changed from that point on.
I think it was about coming of age and rebelling against the forces of her mother. Cindy is very much tied to WHY Casey is who she is.
Cindy wouldn’t know anything about MOTY if it b*tch slapped her with upside her head with a rainbow trout.
@JR – THAT was good.
The more I hear the jurors speak, it is clear to me they are not an intelectual bunch. “We liked Baez, he was good”. F***ing dduuuurrrrrrr. The Pros mistake was not dumbing down their questioning. In retrospect, every time Baez talked to the jurors like they were 8 years old, I would say, “yeah keep doing that, that would seriously offend me”. Little did I know, that is exactly what they wanted and needed. F***ing disgusted!!!
If anyone has any remedy to this feeling I have of such despair over this injustice, please post. How do we move on? How do I get this case out of my everyday thinking?
Well Ms Blink all of your inside info from sources sure fell flat. No Latents, remember that eezy-peazy comment, No George taking the fifth….I could go on and on but I won’t, I felt your site was BS from the get, and am assured of it now. Peace, Blink Bullshit.
1. I am not going to be goaded, so back under the bridge with you.
2. There was, is, and forever will be a partial latent, which contains “ridges consistent with Casey Anthony’s comparative print” ( I do not claim to know which, and never have) that does not meet the FBI’s criteria, or AFIS’s to be conclusive to any individual. I am not the only person that had this information, if you did your research, their is another journalist who reported the same thing. Also, if you were so inclined to continue said research, you would realize it is not the only “print” that never came in at trial that I reported on.
There is a little rule of law called 430, that in this case, severely restricted this prosecution to the defense’s advantage.
3. The defense was never allowed to question George to lay the foundation/predicate to introduce any line of questioning to have him plead the 5th, or I can assure you he would have. Again, as you seem to only have a subcutaneous interest in this case that includes only Blinkbashing, I invite you to reflect on the fact that the defense tipped their strategy 6 weeks prior to the trial, and the prosecution was consequently faced with a strategic decision as to whether or not impeach Cindy Anthony by calling her in the rebuttal case, and again, I can assure you, SHE would have taken the 5th, and her testimony ordered stricken from the record.
I do not have a problem being wrong, I am wrong all the time, ask my family, lol.
What I do have a problem with, is when my integrity is called into question without merit. People have had to remind me for 3 years and in many cases that comes with the territory and to grow a thicker skin., now is probably a good time.
B
I have been feeling lately that the world is changing in a way that I do not understand and am no longer part of.
An example would be the new bestselling book, “Go the F-ck to Sleep”, written by a father to express how he feels about his little daughter when she wants to stay up later than her bedtime. I can honestly say that those words never formed in my mind at any time when my boys were little and seem antithetical to the innocence that is a little child.
A female writer named Zacharias wrote an article expressing her shock that a parent would write such a book about their child and she was met with a deluge of vile, personal, cruel comments from everyone who chose to write in. I was even more shocked at the horrific things her readers wrote to her than I was when I initially heard about the book itself. No one seemed to think there was anything wrong with thinking evil thoughts about your baby or child and all felt they should be free to do so if they wanted and not be made to feel guilty about it by Ms. Zacharias.
I was just getting over this when the Casey Anthony verdict came down and that just sealed it for me…I don’t know what planet I’m on anymore. I no longer understand my own species. I’m sure this will all make sense to me one day but right now I just want to forget it all and sleep…and sleep. Maybe it will all have been a crazy dream.