Caylee Anthony Gram *Wanna Be* Sees Dead People- Is Donna MacLean A MacLeach?
Recently interviewed by Diane Dimond, a journalist I like very much but who is apparently now lacking a fact checking staff, Donna MacLean claims to believe she is the paternal grandmother of Caylee Anthony.
Nancy Grace featured her on her show as well. (Insert snark d’jour) Perhaps her fact checkers were unavailable as well and sitting on a jury somewhere… in an undisclosed sequestered paradise.
Apparently MacLean, is not alone, as she claims to have hired famed attorney John Q. Kelly in consideration of a wrongful death suit.
Mr. Kelly, who represented the Goldman and Brown families in a wrongful death action following that particular decades monster on a leash, also dropped by it’s jury, OJ Simpson, won the families over $30Million in a verdict award.
Mr. Kelly is also the attorney for the Holloway family, specifically Beth Holloway, during her recent attempts to see Joran VanderSloot in a Peruvain jail.
His client list reads like a who is who in high profile, including the estates of Kathleen Savio and the family of missing and presumed deceased George Smith.
Admirable endeavors, which begs the question, what is he doing messed up in this soup sandwich?
Donna MacLean claims that her son Michael Duggan, killed in a car crash in October 2007, was Caylee Anthony’s father. Sarah Duggan, Mr. Duggan’s half-sister, died of her injuries sustained shortly thereafter.
It is unclear how she arrived at this conclusion which belies any offer of proof, or geographical possibilities of any kind, and Ms. MacLean left out a very important fact. Her son’s drivers license was revoked for medical reasons in 2001. At the time of the crash, Duggan’s last known address was in Connecticut, and in 2006 he lived in North Rutherford, NJ, not Tennesee as his Mother reported.
In addition, Wilfred Duggan, Michael’s grandfather, had not seen his grandfather in a number of years, since a non-criminal incident in 1999.
Mr. Duggan refused to comment on how Michael gained access to his Sebring convertible.
A source inside the family wishing to be unidentified, has confirmed that the reasons for the revocation were based on medical reasons that would not allow re-instatement by Mr. Duggan without an approved evaluation.
Repeat 2001. Caylee was conceived approximately Fall of 2004.
As such is the case, is it believable Master MacLean was driving through different parts of the country, in the moving business, without so much as a drivers license, which by the way is a requirement of the bonds necessary to work in the industry?
Sadly, Ms. MacLean’s own family has never heard this story previously, and I do believe we have given Ms. MacLeach the latest 15 minutes she has asked for.
The Orange County Court House is going to run out of paper by the day at this rate. There are enough meritorious lawsuits facing Ms. Anthony as we speak, I recommend one save’s one’s energy for those.
Research Credit: Titch of www.scaredmonkeys.net
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This case just haunts me. I think about it before I go to sleep and it’s one of the first things that pops into my head in the morning. Last night watching Vinnie Politan witht he three “Mental Health Experts”, if I hear the word “clinician” come out of that blond/black haired woman again I was gonna poke my eyes out. They kept referring to something being wrong with George. IMHO opinion he is the only one in the family that has acted even close to normal in this whole fiasco and that’s not saying much. Anyhoo. I’ve been wracking my noodle trying to figure out how Casey hooked up with Baez and I just don’t believe the story she told. I’ve always felt that Casey did some “escorting” to earn some cash and I’ve come up with maybe Baez was one of her clients. It’s just MHO but I wouldn’t be surprised. The relationship has just never felt attorney/client to me. It’s always seemed like more and it’s a well established fact that he’s a sleaze. Thoughts?
AMHO
Myers……..I think you just proved one of Blink’s point in regards to the far reaching implications this verdict will have.
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Blink do you still think or have reason to believe the father is Jesus Ortiz? You probably wont answer me.
I do.
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Eloise says:
July 14, 2011 at 9:50 am
Whaazupwitchu says:
July 13, 2011 at 11:18 pm
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RE Juror #3
I dont think that is the same gal?
Dang, that link got through?
No, it is definitely NOT the same girl, we found that the night she was interviewed, not her.
B
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LOL- that’s what I thought, but I have seen it posted twice since, so I thought I mis-interpreted.
OT question- does anybody know who will be present at the hearing tomorrow? Morgan and who? Is this JPerry as well?
Morgan and Mitnick and Greene and Judge Rodriguez
B
I have another question……..Do you think Baez and Co. will continue to represent Casey in all the up and I hope coming lawsuits? After all, how would it look if they dropped her now? The State doesn’t have to pay for any of this now, right? Maybe, Baez and Co. does not now think, the verdict was so great after all. Just saying………
Hang on.
If Caylee was born full term on August 9 2005, she was conceived in between late October and mid November 2004.
If Caylee was born one month premature as CA claims, she was conceived in between late November and mid-December 2004.
ICA was supposed to be 7 months pregnant at the June wedding, so August 9 would be right for little Caylee to be born full time. It was clear to me that ICA was very pregnant in that wedding photo, despite, IMO, the BS from her parents.
For some reason, IMO, CA is trying to throw off the conception date.
Kleat and OhioSheryl, could very well be that CA does know who the father is.
correction…last expression Caylee SAW before she passed.
@ graceinthehills- I agree. That pic in the link you posted says a lot. I watched her that day in court and what an about face from the way she previously acted. I think she thinks she is the sh*t. It was almost like she was playing up for the cameras. Raising her eyebrows, flirting with Jose. Made me want to puke. I can’t wait until she realizes how much people don’t like her. Oh, and yes I caught the “Depravity Scale” too. I don’t usually watch Joy’s show but I got sucked in while scanning the channels.
Example of question asked by Mr. Taylor to Casey Anthony:
Casey: Why didn’t you just tell the detectives and LE at Universal that day that Caylee died due to an accident?
Just Example Answer:
Answer: Because if I had then of course I would have to tell them where the body is and that spelled MURDER. I mean with the duct tape, odor in the car and all. And I wasn’t sure if Caylee was completely decomposed yet. See what I mean?. Besides that, when I had that big fight with my mother on June 15th due to stealing Grandpa’s money and all that silliness and Mom told me she was going to get custody of Caylee. I told mom I would see Caylee dead first. I wasn’t sure at that time if Mom being angry with me and all would use it against me. I needed more time to see how things would go. So I really couldn’t say anythng then. I needed a little more time. About 3 years to be exact, so I could get my facts straight. You see Mr. Taylor, time was on my side.
Holly Cow! I just learned that both John Morgan’s (of Morgan and Morgan, representing Zenida Gonzales) and Yuri Melich’s moms both live down the street from me! What are the odds?!
p.s., I know that the fact that they both live in my neighborhood has nothing to do with any of this. I just was surprised. Small world!
Change the laws! It can’t stop with Caylee.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/07/14/wa.accused.rapist.watch.porn.komo?hpt=hp_t2
SusieB says:
July 14, 2011 at 11:02 am
There you go. Things could not have worked out better for her. She sat back in jail and let the story practically event itself. It is sad to say that it all fell into place for a dispicable person. Her mom should be proud, she taught her daughter how to lie very well.
My stomach turns everytime I think of the verdict and it makes me so angry that these jury members say there was not enough evidence. All the hardwork to put a murderer away and it was all there in plain sight for the jury to see. I still wish the argument on the 15th would have been a part of the trial. That would have told a different story.
38.Eloise says:
July 14, 2011 at 9:48 am
GraceintheHills says:
July 13, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Oops, sorry for the typos. high proflile = high profile
Oh, and btw, did any of you see the psychologist who interviewed CA at the jail over the past few years and spoke (with her permission) on Dr. Drew’s show tonight?
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Glad to see you comment on this guy Grace-
Was he attempting to disguise himself or did he appear to have an illness>?
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@Eloise, I don’t know, but something seemed a little off.
@TennisLaw (Diana Tennis) Twitter
I want a law prohibiting any laws being proposed within 60 days of any not guilty murder verdict anywhere. And no baby names on laws.
http://twitter.com/#!/TennisLaw
Who is this woman and WTF??????
06/01/2011 Request for Admissions
Request for Admissions
07/01/2011 Response
OBJECTIONS AND REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF TIME TO RESPOND TO REQUEST FOR ADMISSIONS
07/06/2011 Notice of Taking Deposition(s)
VIDEOTAPE DEPOSITION
07/08/2011 Notice of Filing
JURY TRIAL EXCERPT
07/08/2011 Transcript Filed
AS ATTACHMENT TO NOTICE OF FILING JURY TRIAL EXCERPT
07/11/2011 Notice of Filing
AFFIDAVITS OF SERVICES
07/13/2011 Motion
EMERGENCY MOTION TO COMPEL APPEARANCE AT VIDEOTAPE DEPOSITION
07/13/2011 Motion to Compel
MOTION TO COMPEL
07/13/2011 Notice of Hearing
NOTICE OF HEARING
07/14/2011 Motion
EMERGENCY MOTION TO STRIKE NOTICE OF HEARING, MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER AND REQUEST FOR CASE MANAG
07/15/2011 Hearing (10:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Rodriguez, Jose R)
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=1450829
Ok so who is Rodriguez?
The judge.
B
When the baby killer checks out of her accommodations at the Orange County jail, she’ll have a few bucks left over to make a stop at the commissary on her way out the door.
The girls gotta stock up on that canned bean dip, doncha know??
http://abcnews.go.com/US/casey_anthony_trial/casey-anthony-admirers-sending-cash-jailhouse-bank/story?id=14061966
“The donations have increased since Anthony was acquitted in the death of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee last week, the records show.
As of today, Anthony has $472.18 in her bank account, nearly $200 more than what was in her account the day she received the verdict. One stranger donated $100 this week.
The average balance in an Orange County jail inmate’s account is $36.30.”
WPG says:
July 14, 2011 at 10:41 am
You’re right! Caylee was full term. I won’t be graphic…my son was born within the first week of July (beginning of October). She’s very pregnant in those photos. She looks like she’s third trimester, IMO.
According to BMI, if Caylee was 3’1″ and about 50 lbs June 15, 2008, she’d be considered average height (54th percentile and very chubby for weight (97th percentile).
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You have input the following:
Your sex is female
Your height is 3 ft. 1.0 in., or 94.0 cm.
Your weight is 50.0 lb., or 22.7 kg.
Your birthdate is 08/09/2008, so your age is 2 years 11 months.
If the above are not correct, please go back to the form and correct your input.
Your Results
Your height is 54th percentile
That means you are 54th in height compared to 100 kids your age and sex.
Your weight is greater than the 97th percentile.
That means that you weigh the most compared to 100 kids your age and sex.
Your Body Mass Index is 25.7, which is greater than the 97th percentile.
That means that your BMI is the highest compared to 100 kids your age and sex.
http://www.blubberbuster.com/height_weight.html
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I had to change the ‘DOB’ to for results to reflect Caylee’s age.
My best friend’s boy was born 6 weeks pre mature. He was underweight until the age of about 3 and a half (I called her to verify this). He was usually in the low percentile in height and weight against male children his age. Very small.
Caylee was a healthy, full grown baby and toddler. My theory doesn’t necessarily disprove she was pre term but it shrinks the likelihood, imo.
Besides, you can’t fool any mother on this planet, especially ones who’ve delivered a pre term baby. Caylee was a sweet, adorably plump baby from day 1.
Blinkette 6 weeks early= did not weigh 20 lbs until her second birthday.
B
I’m sorry, I had a link that contained Caylee’s weight and height before she passed. Looking for it!!!!!
http://missingexploited.com/2008/07/20/2-year-old-caylee-anthony-missing-since-june-9-2008-in-orlando-fl/
Description: Caylee Anthony
•Missing Date: Jun 9, 2008
•DOB: Aug 9, 2005
•Sex: Female
•Race: White
•Age: 2 Height: 3’1″ (94 cm)
•Weight: 50 lbs (23 kg)
•Hair Color: Brown
•Eye Color: Hazel
•Missing City: ORLANDO
•Missing State : FL
I am pretty sure fwiw Cindy said she was 35 lbs-ish.
B
Double apologies… should read….I had to change DOB year to ’2008′ to get similiar results of someone who’s about to turn 3.
http://amomandherblog.com/caylee-anthonymissing-endangered-poster/
So, it’s safe to say Caylee’s missing child posters had wrong weight??? Who approved these posters before they were handed out to the public?
Oh boy– here comes the black-hatted one again, but if he waits a week, he’s going to miss the target!
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/28539964/detail.html
(Padilla plans to sue Casey too, he was decieved by her– okay– so just when did he learn this, and how much has he profitted in the meantime, by all his tv spots? If he can jump on the bandwagon to say he was decieved, isn’t he admitting he, with a law degree and big name as a bounty hunter and tv professional, was fooled by a proven liar to get the bond-ee to pay up? That will go far in court.)
Blink – I posted something at 9:34am but its still awaiting moderation while many others posts have gone up since then. Don’t know if its from my end or something else. Anyways, no biggie if it doesn’t go up – its just words.
NEW addition to Eloise’s post– although there is nothing new yet in the Myclerk system beyond what Eloise posted above, there is a NEWS story within past 15 minutes re another hearing tomorrow morning, this is not the 10 am listing, but 8 AM for ‘emergency case management hearing’.
Quote:
“Casey Anthony’s attorney fires back at Zenaida Gonzalez civil case”
By Adam Longo, Reporter
Last Updated: Thursday, July 14, 2011 1:18 PM
ORLANDO —
Independent sources confirm there will be an emergency case management hearing in the civil case against Casey Anthony Friday morning at 8 a.m.
Unquote
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/july/279069/Casey-Anthonys-attorney-fires-back-at-Zenaida-Gonzalez-civil-case
Just in case anyone missed watching this clip of Dot Sims … it’s a hoot!!
Joy Behar show – she asks Dot if she’d let Casey babysit her children or grandkids.
First stunned silence as she tries to figure out WTH to say to this question.
Then stammering madly “I, I, I umm, I think, umm … well the Casey that I came to know I felt comfortable with”.
(but Dot … you felt comfy with her, but the question was – would you feel comfy entrusting your defenseless child with Casey??)
The hemming and hawing without ever really answering the question says it all. MOO
All the DT members are all over TV trying in vain to rehab the baby killers image.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/07/casey-anthony-was-this-joy-behars-finest-moment.html
Have you guys seen this $1M offer for Casey, I’m not sure how this would work, seems like this guy is just trying to get some free publicity for his new production company, but I don’t understand how he’d (a) fund the $1M offer and (b) recoup said funds
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/07/tv-producer-offers-casey-anthony-1m-first-interview-see-check
@ sammy
As of today, Anthony has $472.18 in her bank account, nearly $200 more than what was in her account the day she received the verdict. One stranger donated $100 this week.
The average balance in an Orange County jail inmate’s account is $36.30.”
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Could that be an indication that for safety reasons Casey has already been moved to a different jail in Florida ? She only has to be released from a Florida jail it doesn’t matter the county..
Kleat says: @ July 14, 2011 at 12:48 pm
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Yep, more attempts to stall on the baby killers behalf.
From your link, my fav quote is what Mr Greene said (ICA’s civil attorney).
Who knew that the criminal trial was such a grueling experience that has left her emotionally + physically exhausted?
Casey was all ready, set, go sitting in that courtroom at sentencing when she thought she was going to be released that day.
Her scraggle hair down but rocking the bump – all giggles and yucking it up with Dot and Bozo – until HHJP let her know she’d be spending a few more nights in the clink.
Charles Greene:
“He said the criminal trial for her was, “a grueling experience that has left her emotionally and mentally exhausted.” Essentially, Greene’s response reads there’s no legitimate emergency for a hearing or a deposition to happen immediately.”
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/july/279069/Casey-Anthonys-attorney-fires-back-at-Zenaida-Gonzalez-civil-case
Great article here, my apologies if this was posted, but if so I didn’t see it.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201107/the-not-so-obvious-lessons-the-casey-anthony-trial
NO baby names, is that what Tennis is suggesting, or was that someone’s tweet TO her?
Next someone will suggest removing all baby names from existing laws, like ‘Amber’, and ‘Polly’.
kris, I want to ask Blink if she knows of any connection between this guy and Larry Garrison and his ventures.
Not Garrison, lol, stay tuned
Know what I think? I think Jose Baez et al are trying to create a bidding war for themselves.
Jump in folks, the water is fine, really. No visible sharks.
B
@ Kleat…
Interesting. Veddy veddy inta ves tink.
Casey’s attorney is concerned for her 5th amendment rights. Why does he need to worry when she cannot be prosecuted for the exact crime? She can literally confess to murdering Caylee and never be held legally accountable. I thought this is why the civil case was post poned til after the trial (pending verdict).
Perhaps he’s concerned about Casey talking and encouraging others to come forward with a civil suit against her. Why worry….she’ll see this as another opportunity to embellish her lies even further.
Me thinks she should rent out a small space on the 23rd floor of the court building. She won’t be going much further for a while
For anyone interested in the REAL Jeff Ashton’s facebook page, here it is. There are also great photos here of Jeff’s retirement party. Still can’t believe he is gone. Wondering if he would’ve stayed longer had the ship of fools would’ve returned a people’s verdict instead of the one they pulled out of their hat.
The Official Jeffrey Ashton Page
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Official-Jeffrey-Ashton-Page/167094923356300?sk=wall
Retirement Party photos
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.168400113225781.39839.167094923356300
Hey y’all…
We are officially duplicating posts. For Blink’s sake, please read comments and ensure a similiar link or information hasn’t been posted already. It may mean having to read back a few pages but it’s more efficient for BOC.
I’m MAJORLY GUILTY of rush postings w/ new links or info due to sheer excitement.
The 1 mill story and Dot’s reaction to Behar’s questions are revolving.
With deep respect, friendies <3
Gotta LOVE this! Found it on Facebook and just had to share. This is awesome!
“BREAKING NEWS: “Casey Anthony places a call to 911 in fear of her life”… (Dispatcher) What is your emergency? Please help me, I have a bunch of people trying to kill me. Okay ma’am, calm down. What is your name? Casey Anthony. Okay Miss Anthony try to stay calm, an officer will be there in 31 days.”
ROFLMAO!
This brings tears to my eyes but warmth in my heart at the same time. Mr. Ashton … are you truly one of the good guys.
Caylee photo w/Jeff Ashton
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=185154871546511&set=pu.182750295120302&type=1&theater
SusieB says:
July 14, 2011 at 9:19 am
(sniped)
Mr. Baez asked George on the stand if he received more than one notice and it was objected to by the prosecution and the question was never answered although George shook his head in bewilderment. Would Baez have asked this question if he did not know the answer?????
Blink’s reply:
“I know exactly why he asked George that. George had a PO Box.”
B
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George, George, George . . . aye, yiy, yiy . . .
We Americans do not want to here anymore lies from this piece of crap. Donate the million to a needy cause. Stop insulting us!!!!!
oops, “(snipped) not “(sniped)” . . . yikes.
Quote:
“Casey Anthony’s attorney fires back at Zenaida Gonzalez civil case”
By Adam Longo, Reporter
Last Updated: Thursday, July 14, 2011 1:18 PM
ORLANDO —
Independent sources confirm there will be an emergency case management hearing in the civil case against Casey Anthony Friday morning at 8 a.m.
Unquote
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/july/279069/Casey-Anthonys-attorney-fires-back-at-Zenaida-Gonzalez-civil-case
this article states that casey is emotionally drained from her trial — that’s really too sad, isn’t it casey? i wonder how caylee feels.
also WRT dot sims saying she trusts casey anthony: that’s what sociopaths do, stupid. of course you trusted her, she’s a sociopath. you think all those women got into ted bundy’s VW because he acted like the unabomber? for being so smart, these lawyers are sure dumb.
Not sure if anyone pointed this out:
Goldman not Goldstein in the 3rd/4th paragraph.
Thank you lovin’
B
@ Kleat…
It was her tweet. It’s a simple post…it’s not from anyone or to anyone.
I take it at face value. Personalizing these kinds of laws make them that more valuable and significant. Understanding the inspiration behind the law makes it an unforgettable law. This is just my stupid opinion.
…and I hope Padilla does go after her. I hope he has a case. I’m not a huge fan but if anyone can milk the Creature cow b/c of her lies, go for it! He did take a risk and it was his choice to step into the Creature vortex. He’s no victim. I just dislike Casey more than I do LP.
@ WPG
-SNIPED- <—– LOL…couldn't resist…
George, George, George . . . aye, yiy, yiy . .
Holy crap, that was a good laugh!!
@ justice
Love the JA retirement photos. Thank you posting, friendy. He's an integral part of American history. I feel honoured to have witnessed his contributions to the justice system.
@ Sammy
Those poor lonely, desperate men. Anything looks good enought to them. I wish they'd put that money into cognitive therapy for themselves.
Comments awaiting moderation are not uncommon. Some take longer than others. Be patient folks. They'll show up
Kleat says:
July 14, 2011 at 2:37 pm
“kris, I want to ask Blink if she knows of any connection between this guy and Larry Garrison and his ventures.”
“Not Garrison, lol, stay tuned
Know what I think? I think Jose Baez et al are trying to create a bidding war for themselves.
Jump in folks, the water is fine, really. No visible sharks.
B”
I had thought perhaps JB’s “first publicist” . . . the guy with so many names. But by gosh, Blink, a bidding war does make sense.
Caylee’s Law has reached over a million signatures on change.org! That’s awesome! Keep it going, guys!
Create Caylee’s Law
http://www.change.org/petitions/create-caylees-law
SIGNATURES
1,215,320
TennisLaw (Diana Tennis)
New Law: if you unsuccessfully sue an acquitted person, you pay their fees. And a public apology. And forfeit any cowboy hat you may own.
5 hours ago
http://twitter.com/#!/TennisLaw
She is NOT invited to my funeral.
LOL. That is absurd. Perhaps Ms. Tennis needs to brush up on the differences between criminal and civil proceedings.
Doy.
B
Latest tweet from Mark NeJame. Thank you for helping with this, Mr. NeJame. You are another Caylee hero.
MarkNeJame Mark NeJame
FL. Law will be submitted for passage. No $ for juror interviews for 9 mos. Can talk freely for no $. 1st & 6th Amend. safe. #caseyanthony
JannyFay: I can’t STAND that woman on HLN you are talking about with the skunk hair: “I don’t “like” George and I get a “feeling” about him so I’ll just insinuate on National Television he’s a molester.” She kept calling George out for lying (needless to say she thought River Cruz totally credible), but the rest of the family somehow got a pass?? She would have fit in with the jury great.
I think “clinician” means (TV code) no degree whatsoever.
The Doctor who has been evaluating Casey Anthony is strange. Whats up with his har? lol…here’s a little something I found on him.
OOPS! I forgot to post what I found on the Doc.
Harry Krop, PhD was the child custody evaluator in my child custody case of 2000. I filed a complaint with the FL Dept. of Health in 2004, citing many reasons why the custody evaluation and recommendation that he prepared was faulty. Resultant to my complaint, on January 25, 2008, Dr. Krop was disciplined, fined and reprimanded by the Florida Board of Psychology.
Who’s this person?
Geez, men are coming out of the woodwork now, sadly this is becoming more and more like the Jerry Springer Show.
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http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
UMBERGER, CHRISTOPHER LEE vs. ANTHONY, CASEY
Case No. 2011-DR-011965-O
Case Type:Paternity
Date Filed: 07/13/2011
07/11/2011Petition For Paternity
07/11/2011Letter to the Clerk
07/13/2011Summons Issued
07/13/2011Civil Cover Sheet
07/13/2011Copy/Copies of Letter from the Clerk to Petitioner