Caylee Anthony Gram *Wanna Be* Sees Dead People- Is Donna MacLean A MacLeach?
Recently interviewed by Diane Dimond, a journalist I like very much but who is apparently now lacking a fact checking staff, Donna MacLean claims to believe she is the paternal grandmother of Caylee Anthony.
Nancy Grace featured her on her show as well. (Insert snark d’jour) Perhaps her fact checkers were unavailable as well and sitting on a jury somewhere… in an undisclosed sequestered paradise.
Apparently MacLean, is not alone, as she claims to have hired famed attorney John Q. Kelly in consideration of a wrongful death suit.
Mr. Kelly, who represented the Goldman and Brown families in a wrongful death action following that particular decades monster on a leash, also dropped by it’s jury, OJ Simpson, won the families over $30Million in a verdict award.
Mr. Kelly is also the attorney for the Holloway family, specifically Beth Holloway, during her recent attempts to see Joran VanderSloot in a Peruvain jail.
His client list reads like a who is who in high profile, including the estates of Kathleen Savio and the family of missing and presumed deceased George Smith.
Admirable endeavors, which begs the question, what is he doing messed up in this soup sandwich?
Donna MacLean claims that her son Michael Duggan, killed in a car crash in October 2007, was Caylee Anthony’s father. Sarah Duggan, Mr. Duggan’s half-sister, died of her injuries sustained shortly thereafter.
It is unclear how she arrived at this conclusion which belies any offer of proof, or geographical possibilities of any kind, and Ms. MacLean left out a very important fact. Her son’s drivers license was revoked for medical reasons in 2001. At the time of the crash, Duggan’s last known address was in Connecticut, and in 2006 he lived in North Rutherford, NJ, not Tennesee as his Mother reported.
In addition, Wilfred Duggan, Michael’s grandfather, had not seen his grandfather in a number of years, since a non-criminal incident in 1999.
Mr. Duggan refused to comment on how Michael gained access to his Sebring convertible.
A source inside the family wishing to be unidentified, has confirmed that the reasons for the revocation were based on medical reasons that would not allow re-instatement by Mr. Duggan without an approved evaluation.
Repeat 2001. Caylee was conceived approximately Fall of 2004.
As such is the case, is it believable Master MacLean was driving through different parts of the country, in the moving business, without so much as a drivers license, which by the way is a requirement of the bonds necessary to work in the industry?
Sadly, Ms. MacLean’s own family has never heard this story previously, and I do believe we have given Ms. MacLeach the latest 15 minutes she has asked for.
The Orange County Court House is going to run out of paper by the day at this rate. There are enough meritorious lawsuits facing Ms. Anthony as we speak, I recommend one save’s one’s energy for those.
Research Credit: Titch of www.scaredmonkeys.net
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Sammy says:
July 14, 2011 at 4:15 pm
OMG!!!!!! And the hits keep on coming.
Creature Anthony…village bicycle. I suspect we are going to see a few more of these!
Christopher Lee Umberger
http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?t=55206&page=26
http://wvjails.info/?BookingID=999023300
If this is true…then it would seem Creature carries a curse. If you sleep with her, you die.
It upsets me so much that people are putting money in her prison account.Do they have nothing better to do with their funds?She can
buy eyeliner in jail.Why so she can look good for the prison guards?
I thought this was jail not a resort.I would think you could jab someone
in the eye with a eyeliner pencil??????We need a reform of our system or
I am missing something here.
The A’s coming out of a Home Depot, like nothing ever happened ??????
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/14/casey-anthonys-parents-confronted_n_898815.html
The 2 lead village idiots: Ford and The-Foreman, you two can take this. You did not take into account the obvious (except to those about to be paid off) reprehensibly-guilty (not just suspicious, but screaming neon light I DID IT) behavior of the defendant, yet you took it upon yourself to judge the behavior of the father as suspicious, NOT the mother who – ya dopes should have figured out just from sitting yer butts up there – perjured herself… and you considered the brother’s testimony in June as false… so you two big-mouths admitted to making the call the father and the brother are liars, harangued the rest of the jury, made them discount the father’s and brother’s testimony, and made them believe uber-witch’s lies – and you want to know why the whole world wants to put you on trial for co-conspiracy to let a baby killer run free, or else is challenging your ability to wipe your own butts without State guidance? FWIW I know y’all keeping tabs here.
Just researching this guy… a comment from a poster on the link made me think he was deceased. I misinterpreted it…BIG TIME. So so sorry! However, if this is true (paternity/same dude), IF, it would seem Casey knows a lot of low lives.
http://bdtonline.com/local/x325560668/UPDATE-Bail-revoked-for-deputy-shooter
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Many-Disguises-Of-Casey-Anthony/121843054572414?sk=photos <—– LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
5.WPG says:
July 14, 2011 at 10:41 am
Hang on.
If Caylee was born full term on August 9 2005, she was conceived in between late October and mid November 2004.
If Caylee was born one month premature as CA claims, she was conceived in between late November and mid-December 2004.
ICA was supposed to be 7 months pregnant at the June wedding, so August 9 would be right for little Caylee to be born full time. It was clear to me that ICA was very pregnant in that wedding photo, despite, IMO, the BS from her parents.
For some reason, IMO, CA is trying to throw off the conception date.
Kleat and OhioSheryl, could very well be that CA does know who the father is
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I saw a screen cap someone had taken of the birth announcement for Caylee. The weight is listed as 7 ____6____.
Now, I cannot read the _____, but it’s either 7 lbs. 6 oz. or vice versa, either way she sounds like a full-term baby!
Everyone who slept with Casey since she started whoring around at 13 – every school teacher knows that SOME kids are sexually active that young and younger without being raped by a family member – will come forward…. That’s 10 years at a minimum of 1 per week, a minimum of 500 potential fathers to come forward for DNA testing (“hey I slept with you when you were 12, want to have a re-run?”) – and that would be fodder for two weeks of Jerry Springer “Did you sleep with Slut” DNA results shows.
Ugggghhhhhh.
Blink, you’re maintaining that JO being the father (with much respect). Would the DNA taken from Caylee reveal Hispanic origin? I thought the remains were id’d as being Causcasian. Why wouldn’t his family at least rule it out definitively (kinda rhetorical)?
This will go on and on and on.
A bidding war?
Who exactly is doing Baez’s bidding….Simon and Schuster claim they are not repping Baez, Creature, the Scamthony’s nor anyone associated with them (facebook statement).
Our beloved chica emailed this to me for those who want to boycott Al Taylor’s crap.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-Al-Taylor-Offering-Casey-1-Million/132210126863492
I don’t get the paternity petition, Caylee’s profile is out in the public record, isn’t it? Casey too, or do they have to start from scratch? Has this person done the basics of comparing themselves to the general profile that Caylee fell into, as far as the ethnic groups? That’s in discovery somewhere.
Darn, I should have added the screen cap of the birth announcemet was taken from a current “Dateline” program on the case.
Also, it seems that Caylee’s full-term weight alerted the Rev. Grund, Jesse’s father, to tell him to get a DNA test and not immediately sign the birth certificate as Caylee’s father.
I’m still thinking that Casey doesn’t know who could be the father and it would have been a bit embarrassing to have several of her swains go through testing especially since Casey was still, ahem! a virgin to Cindy.
Or… Casey hooked up with a gent just passing through and there was no hope of even tracing him since she only knew him by a first name or a fake name. A salesman or a serviceman whom she couldn’t trace.
I think if there had been any possibility of getting any kind of support from him or his family, Cindy would have been on that like a fly on flypaper. Casey probably kept her in the dark about how it happened and Jesse was a godsend…until he messed up big time and asked for that DNA test. From then on, he was on the Anthony s**t list.
I have never been convinced that Jesse Otiz was the one from something his family said. But it’s been so long ago, I have forgotten more than I ever knew about the case.
Blink, bringing this post forward…….
There is a question that still bothers me. I want to know if the branch of the Post Office that George went to to pick up the Certified Letter from Johnson’s Wrecker sent more than one notice to their home, notifying them that they had a certified Letter sitting there to be picked up. And if so, what is their procedure in doing so. How many? How soon after the first notice and do mail persons put the notices in the mail box or on the door?
Mr. Baez asked George on the stand if he received more than one notice and it was objected to by the prosecution and the question was never answered although George shook his head in bewilderment. Would Baez have asked this question if he did not know the answer?????
Does anyone know where exactly this post office is? I would love to call them.
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I know exactly why he asked George that. George had a PO Box.
B
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Whoaaa Blink, I didn’t know that…….interesting…….I suppose that PO Box was for his “online activities”. I would still like to know about those notices. You have admit it is an interesting question………..just saying.
Yes, and his $11K credit card balance Cindy knew nothing about.
B
Bidding war….I agree. Makes me want to hurl. Where is the conscience?
Blink and All, Ha! the cases are piling up… tick tock, now some new guy up for paternity? Blink have you all ready or have you ever considered contacting that Ortiz family to see if anything can be done? wouldn’t these people want to know? especially now with a few jumping in the ring here? makes no sense to me that this mystery remains, and leonard, really? i don’t think he stands a chance….but i sure have been wrong big time before – ya leonard wins his case and Tim Miller gets nothing, ass backwards but we’ve seen it happen, the world needs to right itself, right now! oh and HLN just had shots of baez leaving the jail after so called visit w/ her(he Really should wear his seatbelt!) – hope she shows up in court tomorrow
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/14/casey-anthonys-parents-confronted_n_898815.html
You can see CA videoing the videoers when they drive away.
And they have a shiny new red jeep.
B
leonard on HLN now – he says he was mislead by baez, blah, blah, and he will serve her locally or his people will hunt her down – tells them to pick their poison, he’s mad Ha, ok, i’ll bite, go get her lenny! i hope she blows him off, that will be good, *hey leonard i heard she’s just immature, cut her some slack HaHa
The 12 Village Oxy-Morons:
Good article here:
“Most people would report their child missing, unless they had actually killed the child. The defense that Casey hid the body and didn’t report it is an oxymoron. Someone may make murder look like an accident, but they don’t make an accident look like murder. ”
By Marilisa Kinney Sachteleben | Yahoo! Contributor Network – Wed, Jul 13, 2011
Maybe Casey’s left over jailhouse account money will cover this…..
http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/25405677/detail.html
Looks like George and Cindy are going to spruce up the yard for the big weekend coming up. Is that a new car???? Times must be good.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/14/casey-anthonys-parents-confronted_n_898815.html
Yes a shiney new Red Jeep. Did you notice Cindy’s wardrobe in court. I dont believe she wore the same thing twice. I thought it very odd that on the day of her acquittal, they were both very dressed up…….
OMG, I have to quit this…….I am just getting terrible…..I am beginning to not like myself.
Blink …
George and Cindy aren’t still living at the Hopespring Drive house, are they?
I have it in my overloaded “Anthony Index of Useless Bunk” that they haven’t resided at that house for quite some time.
But there’s so much drivel and hooey about the A’s rambling around my brain – that I can’t keep it all straight.
Your thoughts please??
They are. I would have torn down that pool with my bare hands if my grandbaby died in it. Except they know she did not, so maybe they are tearing up something else with their Home Depot Supplies
I think I am channeling SusieB!
B
When the going gets tough the Anthony’s do yard work. I remember Mark Furhman saying (pp) that when he was at their home, it looked like an ad for Better Home and Gardens. And that was I believe in August 2008. My home would have been a disaster area. Cleaning and yard work would not be at the top of my priority list.
BLINK~
As I do NOT know the laws of Florida ….
IF ANY CIVIL lawsuit against ICA is won, would ICA just turn around, AFTER all of lawsuits w/Judgements ICA is now ordered to pay, file bankruptcy & skip away yet again – a free woman ??
I know the IRS can keep on coming for her BUT … what about the STANDING of ALL others ??
Thank you [in advance] of clearing such pesky Q’s.
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/07/questions-about-judge-belvin-perrys.html
I echo his sentiments, correct or not.
c10 says:
July 14, 2011 at 6:00 pm
“leonard on HLN now – he says he was mislead by baez, blah, blah, and he will serve her locally or his people will hunt her down – tells them to pick their poison, he’s mad Ha, ok, i’ll bite, go get her lenny! i hope she blows him off, that will be good, *hey leonard i heard she’s just immature, cut her some slack HaHa”
c10,
Your post made me smile, thank you!
Leonard Padilla and Co.’s lawsuit would be extremely interesting, IMO, because it would likely attempt to address what JB knew and when he knew it, regarding the death of little Caylee.
L.Padilla has a legal background himself, so here’s hoping the legal minds involved can find a way around the attorney/client privilege between JB/ICA as it relates to JB’s dealings with L.Padilla and team.
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MsEnscene,
Thanks for the birth announcement/weight info.
Is CA continuing the pretense Caylee was born a month premature because a lawsuit may be coming from the G’s?
Hmmm . . . “under oath” on the record testimony from the trial vs. the birth announcement.
Any idea on the date of the birth announcement – - – was it published in a newspaper?
His sole intent is to get out of the confidentiality and “evergreen nevergreen” contract he signed. He approached Baez.
Leonard knows his gold is only in the hills under Baez’s rump.
Nauseating.
Yes, I noticed the new Jeep. What about the saw they were purchasing. Do they have another dead body to get rid of or just renovations to cover up the stench of one?
After the (IMO) theatrics in court, not surprised in the least:
(snipped)
“WFTV anchor Bob Opsahl said the station had learned that local bail bondsman may be paid to protect her “because she may spend a few days trying to open communications with her parents and her brother.”
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/07/casey-anthony-get-ready-for-extensive-coverage-of-her-jail-release.html
Ragdoll will like this…..
I guess if you have gone into hiding due to all those death threats (per Mark Lippman) then Home Depot is as good a place as any. Maybe that new Blower/Vac George is sporting is his new weapon of choice.
OMG Susie B the places I could go with that, lol, thanks for the laugh.
B
Forgot to add to above, along with a new shiny RED Jeep…….they can be unconspicuous…….. Just Saying.
Oh one moe Q BLINK …
Shouldn’t TM/Texas Equusearch have ALSO INCLUDED GA & CA w/ICA in CIVIL lawsuit ??
No. I dont believe there is any proof that they KNEW Caylee was deceased, whether some think differently or not, so the “fraud” basis of the suit, must be from Casey, who through Jose Baez has pretty much admitted the fraud portion of the program.
I am not going to be able to comment about the TES suit going further, just fyi to all.
B
yes, susieb–times must sure be good considering they were jobless…
wonder what book proceeds ca is getting? And poor exhausted Casey, just tooooo tired to give a depo. Sickening.. Thanks ragdoll for the
many pictures of monster mom, laughed my patootie off…Think she’ll be getting any ideas from reading here?
@Eloise says:
July 14, 2011 at 5:53 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/14/casey-anthonys-parents-confronted_n_898815.html
You can see CA videoing the videoers when they drive away.
And they have a shiny new red jeep.
B
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perhaps C & G did another interview or signed another deal hence the new wheels.
The Monkeys have several guys’ names and/or photos that could be Caylee’s sperm donor. Also an inmate in SC is saying he is and wants a DNA test. Why can’t there just be a central bank for men to apply for this and give their DNA? Perhaps Nancy G. could announce it? I guess while we’re at it, a central site (online?) to apply for lawsuits against Ms. Anthony.
Now there are at least 4 sites on FB I counted from different states that have a page against Ms. Anthony coming there, as well as the PR one.
Don’t we all wish we could be that poor on disability and no jobs for years and buy a fancy gas-guzzling SUV that is so necessary when one lives in the city of Orlando, what with all that snow. And don’t forget to choose the red “hey-look-at-me, I’m special and I want to be noticed” color.
@ McE….
I saw that too. I didn’t post it because I didn’t have a link. I found it! It needs to be enlarged.
No question about the 7 lbs. It’s either 6 or 8 oz. My son was full term @ 7 lbs 8 oz.
http://tinyurl.com/6e2kxyu
These people and their lies. Is it really worth it, especially when there’s so much info out there that says otherwise?
SusieB says:
July 14, 2011 at 8:56 pm
BAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!! Freakin A SB!!!! I just made my husband jump with my trucker laugh.
Girl, you’re riding my wave…thanks for that!!!!! BIG HUGS SWEETIE XO
@ Susie B…
They’ve upgraded to an SUV I see. I guess Creature’s next victim is going to need more room in the back.
Jerry Springer could do this. Seems you all got it narrowed down to Oct, Nov, Dec of 2004. Send out whos the babys Daddy free DNA testing. The big , reallly big show would be the reveal with the promise of help with a wrongful death suite. I like it,Jessie, George and Lee not apply. Think it would please many to know.
If someone yelled hoe down, who do you think would hit the floor first….Casey or George?
…. let’s throw Rose Bud in there for full effect.
I cannot keep up with the giggles y’all are having, ostensibly to carry us on I would like to point out, but that was funny.
B
if this has been mentioned, my apologies. I was contemplating scenarios. The diary hands down is from 2008. “I know I made the right decision, no regrets”, etc I think with the computer searches, i would say most, if not all were directed at george and cindy…I think the chloroform was going to be for them as well. chloroform….would have been used to render george and cindy unconscious…much simplier to ‘off’ someone using “household weapons”, much easier for ‘neckbreaking’ when there is no opposition. “hand-to-hand combat’, in case they would regain consciousness. Tells amy she would be getting the house, (after mom and dad disappear). Power struggle in the home, jealousy run rampant for casey seeing that her mom was giving much more attention to caylee instead of Ms.Socio. That has to fit in somewhere in the crime code for plotting. I would think since orlando is a big city, she could have at least found a 24 hour, or open late daycare centers to drop her off to so she could maintain her pole dancing, burrito eating, parking lot relieving, gang signing, toilet hugging lifestyle
Blink, bringing this post forward…….
There is a question that still bothers me. I want to know if the branch of the Post Office that George went to to pick up the Certified Letter from Johnson’s Wrecker sent more than one notice to their home, notifying them that they had a certified Letter sitting there to be picked up. And if so, what is their procedure in doing so. How many? How soon after the first notice and do mail persons put the notices in the mail box or on the door?
Mr. Baez asked George on the stand if he received more than one notice and it was objected to by the prosecution and the question was never answered although George shook his head in bewilderment. Would Baez have asked this question if he did not know the answer?????
Does anyone know where exactly this post office is? I would love to call them.
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I know exactly why he asked George that. George had a PO Box.
B
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Whoaaa Blink, I didn’t know that…….interesting…….I suppose that PO Box was for his “online activities”. I would still like to know about those notices. You have admit it is an interesting question………..just saying.
Yes, and his $11K credit card balance Cindy knew nothing about.
B
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The notice for the car would only go to the address on the car registration / plate information on file with the state.
Some people will use both a PO Box address and street address togther no matter where they list their address if it’s allowed / accepted, which can cause a conflict. However, if this is a separate single (in one name only) PO Box,…….it probably weren’t (lol intentional bad english) on the registration.
There are other possible scenarios if the PO Box was at the same Orlando branch as their mail was delivered from. But none of the other scenarios would likely provide a definitive ‘record’ of being notified, it just would have been an extra courtesy.
The PO must attempt to deliver the certified the first time (they have it with them). They could have put the notice on the door or in the mailbox (just depends), but was interesting to note, George (think it was him, but could have been CA) said the notices were always left in their mailbox previously (remember if you know the history, this wasn’t their first certified letter by any means). (IIRCC) That was a ‘nonsensical’ red flag to me.
I can certainly think of ways to explain a deviation, but it just caused the hair on the back of my neck to stand at attention when I heard that……
I guess if you have gone into hiding due to all those death threats (per Mark Lippman) then Home Depot is as good a place as any. Maybe that new Blower/Vac George is sporting is his new weapon of choice.Forgot to add to above, along with a new shiny RED Jeep…….they can be unconspicuous…….. Just Saying.
LMAO……this is THE best chuckle I’ve had………and sadly it’s too funny and yet makes perfect sense. Thanks
It is so pitiful that some people (like the defense team) is saying things like she is misunderstood, she is really sweet, they trust her. Tracy (forget last name) who was staying in the Anthony home “babysitting Casey” when she was out, seemed to be saying she liked her personality, but ICA was just out to lunch and showed no care for her daughter, was like a child, etc. – that is the more balanced picture really. Has ICA tricked these supposed intelligent lawyers? How could they believe anything she says? Other people who do it (lying) told me that it is like an addiction, they cannot stop telling lies.
Many criminals are very charming and superficially likable, that has nothing to do with their whole minds and behaviors. It is just like Americans voting a president or musician based on their personality- projected image. In the former case it can and has had drastic results. One has to look at the whole picture, unlike the DT and jurors did not and look a lot deeper.
Hi Blink,
I have never posted here before but wanted to share a Facebook page that I thought you could help with. A little girl is being abused and is staying with the dad and grandma but the court has ordered the girl be returned to her mother on Sunday. The POS boyfriend has been arrested for child abuse but is being released back to the home where the little girl has to be returned. The grandmother is frantic for help and naturally I thought of you…God Bless you for all you do for the ones that have no choice and no voice.
Stop Allowing Aricka Poag To Be Abuse
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MsEnscene -
A long time ago, I calculated Caylee’s conception as having been sometime between Halloween & Thanksgiving of 2004…KioMarie Cruz said there’d been a Halloween party in their circle of friends, & if KC had “made the rounds” between the middle school & the high school, I’d suspected “babydaddy” may have been at that party & was somewhat dismayed to learn that OCSO detectives didn’t follow up with KioMarie to narrow down his identity. At some point I did the calculations & came up with a figure of 1,600 male students from year 2000 to 2004 who were possible babydaddys, & with KioMarie’s help, & others within that circle of friends, that number would’ve been drastically cut.
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This is a job for Maury Povich, with all due respect to Jerry Springer ! I said long ago, that they should hold a “KC-babydaddy DNA paternity testing event” at the Amway Center coz it’s the only place big enough for one for her!
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BTW, the scamily – Cindy, KC, & George, specifically – wanted her accurate/actual due date kept “mum” is coz they wanted Jesse to take the fall as babydaddy..the sonogram KC had at “7 mos” would’ve assisted in the determination of the gestational age of the fetus; from the time they were dating Jesse knew he wasn’t babydaddy, had reassured his Dad that he wasn’t, then he said KC texted him one day the message “u r babydad;mom & dad know”…so KC got busted by Cindy/George for being PG, & she blamed Jesse (she sensed he would stick around & not run, so it was pure manipulation), but Jesse did the math, got the paternity test, & retroactively knew the due date was a sham…& 6 yrs later, Lee is crying on the stand that he was “left out” ?!! Talk about fabrication & perjury ! I don’t trust that he was left out at all — he found out it was another of his family’s scams on unwitting ‘outsiders-targets’, imo.
jmho
WPG asks,” Was there a date on the birth announcement?”
The announcement looked like a diploma… only with footbrints of Caylee and the vital stats. I’m sure the recent Datline could be found at the NBC video archives. Sorry I didn’t save the link to the photo!
Hi Blink. Who is/was Jesus Ortiz? I have read though nearly 1000 posts on your site and cannot seem to find other reference.
Oops, my bad. I thought it was a saw until I put the video full screen. Oh well. Must be nice to have lots of money and no job. I think Cindy eats the cameras up as much as Casey.
31.Riverpearl says:
July 14, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Oh one moe Q BLINK …
Shouldn’t TM/Texas Equusearch have ALSO INCLUDED GA & CA w/ICA in CIVIL lawsuit ??
No. I dont believe there is any proof that they KNEW Caylee was deceased, whether some think differently or not, so the “fraud” basis of the suit, must be from Casey, who through Jose Baez has pretty much admitted the fraud portion of the program.
I am not going to be able to comment about the TES suit going further, just fyi to all.
B
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Was it not in August 2008 when Kieth Williams who found the bag of stuffed animals he took to Cindy for a look see. Did Kieth not say Cindy told him “I had people search that area”. Why, would she have anyone search the area if she was still looking for a live Caylee.
Bet I can guess the title of the Anthony’s new book.
‘SURPRISE, SURPRISE”