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Catching Up With Casey Exclusive: Her Escape Via Todd Macaluso Wearing Pants And Tour Of Her Van Down By The River

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Sharai says:

July 20, 2011 at 6:07 pm

Respect for authority is that the crux of the discussion? On the other hand, is it respect for the verdict, or maybe respect for the process of reaching the verdict? In reality, (although it might appear to be) agreement does not equal respect, likewise, disagreement, does not equal disrespect. It is what it is. Those of us who followed this case from its inception have gleaned an incredible amount of knowledge concerning the character of all the players, the evidence, and various circumstances prior to and following Caylee Marie Anthony’s death. The question that begs to be answered is how did the criminal justice system, the trial by jury, the jury deliberation, and subsequent verdict respect the premature death of this little girl? Who is being held accountable for her demise? The answer is no one is being held culpable for the homicide an innocent two-year-old child. How can anyone respect that reality?
Shalom.
nana2 says:

July 20, 2011 at 6:07 pm

This is the interview with juror Ford that truly bothers me when she talks about “all three people were there & no one rendered medical assistance (pp)” so is she placing George there with CA & is she talking about the pool ‘theory’ ? Then she uses the phrase “I was reaching I was reaching” sounds like words from a movie script & so dramatic.. What is she reaching for? Ms Ford seems to feel & also talks about how the state didn’t prove how the child died so I guess she truly didn’t understand that the state did not have to prove that.. What a farce IMO.. Obviously I can’t get past this verdict & this jury I’m sorry..

http://www.huliq.com/10473/juror-3-casey-anthony-trial-speaks-abcs-nightline-video
nana2 says:

July 20, 2011 at 6:12 pm

@ Sammy says:
July 20, 2011 at 3:49 pm

Cindy and George want all the evidence returned to them.
Yep, even the “it smells like there’s been a dead body in the damn car” mobile.
They say they’re afraid these items may end up on Ebay.
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Bull they want to destroy all of the evidence.. They don’t want to take the smallest of chances that something could ever come back to bite them in the @ss.. If there is nothing left than there could never have been a crime.. That’s why the cremation too IMO.. Its like Caylee never existed to them.. Sorry again..
pen says:

July 20, 2011 at 6:25 pm

You ask what does Leonard Padilla think he is going to sue Baez for? Does it really matter anymore? I may decide as a Floridian to sue Casey Antrhony for reimbursement. We see with these crazy jurors that anything is possible.
Sandy Banks says:

July 20, 2011 at 6:37 pm

All the evidence should be crushed, burned, and otherwise destroyed so that NO ONE can profit from it…including that car… beside the Scamthonys are driving around in a brand new RED jeep, so what do they need the car for? Let the State keep the car as partial payment for the wasted search time. I’m over this… I’m nearly over this… well, I’m working on being over this…. LOL
Sharai says:

July 20, 2011 at 6:42 pm

Serving on a jury requires strength of character, integrity, and humility, as well as respect for and adherence to the process. Lackadaisical or careless procedural implementation hinders the judicial process perverting the outcome. I respect the criminal justice system and the trial by jury process. However, I do not respect the visible unwillingness of the jurors to seek clarification of instructions, their inclusion of emotional reasoning, their apparent negligible examination of evidence, their obvious nominal deliberation time, and their subsequent not guilty verdict.

I find the emphasis on respect/disrespect ironic. The defense team, in my opinion, won this case by dishonoring the basic principles of the criminal justice system. Jose Baez’s presentation within the courtroom (as well as his interactions within the media) did not promote the discovery of truth, the administration of justice, or the protection of society. He did not prove to me that he is a great lawyer, quite the contrary. He proved to me that he is/was good at playing to an audience. He is/was the quintessential traveling elixir/snake oil salesman hawking his wares to any who are foolish enough to listen.

I think the jurors were unwilling, too lazy, and/or incapable of utilizing the cognitive energy necessary to deliberate a verdict. I believe they allowed themselves to be overly influenced by the defense team’s peripheral persuasion, a combination of well-chosen nuances, simple verbiage, and considerable emotional gibberish. Reading the lengthy instructions, asking for clarification, intelligently discussing, and/or debating the validity of evidence are demanding. However, that is exactly what was required.

I believe the juror’s emotional responses influenced their illogical complacency rendering them incapable of asking rational questions, considering realistic scenarios, and/or constructing reasonable inferences. Their verdict spoke more about their state of minds, their character, and their deficits than it did about the quality or quantity of the evidence presented during the trial.

Shalom.
nana2 says:

July 20, 2011 at 6:48 pm

From the Orlando Sentinel..

snip)

That includes, per the request, “mental health treatment you have received, including diagnoses, treatment plans, and prescriptions.”

The attorneys also want Anthony to produce all documents related to offers of “any type” made to her or her representatives for “interviews, television show appearances, movies, books, magazines, newspapers, advertisements, literature…”

The document requests Anthony produce the items within 30 days.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-civil-psych-request-20110720,0,1823248.story
Longtime Lurker says:

July 20, 2011 at 7:59 pm

What I don’t understand, after all this time is why sit in jail for almost 3 years, if it was an accidental drowning, as the defense claimed in the opening statements. Why not come forward with this drowning defense years ago? I’ve seen this question asked before, but I’ve never seen any theories in response.

I’ve tried to figure out what would have happened next if they had made this claim years ago (sometime after the 31 days, tho). It seems the consequences would have had to be worse than facing the death penalty or lwop, which the defense was willing to risk.

So, if they had claimed accident earlier, what next? If they claimed that George was present, (as they did during the trial) and was part of the cover-up, what would the consequences have been to George/and or FCA? I suspect FCA would claim, as they did during the opening statements, that she was coerced by GA after the accident to cover it up. They might be able to claim temporary insanity or something for FCA, which might be believable under the stress of finding your child dead. Maybe they could also excuse away all of FCA’s lies for the following 31 days. If so, why not just throw GA under the bus years ago, instead of waiting so long?

I understand the prosecution was informed of this accident defense theory before the trial began, but I don’t recall how long before the trial they were informed. If it wasn’t til recently, then maybe the DT just pulled this out of their arse, because wasn’t there a story about FCA meeting someone in jail whose child had drowned? (& how likely is that if she was in solitary?)

The only idea I can come up with is that for some reason, the DT figured they had a better than 50% chance of getting her off. What would make them so sure? (aside from the publicity the case would bring for them)

And another question, if anyone knows, why was FCA in solitary anyhow? I don’t think that’s normally done when a person is just awaiting trial. Were there threats to her?

I’m aware that none of this is really relavant anymore, but inquiring minds continue to inquire (lol) and be perplexed.
Lori says:

July 20, 2011 at 8:06 pm

There’s a lot about the Anthony clan that I’m simply unable to wrap my head around, but one of the worst ideas for me, a grandmother of two 3 year old sweet wonderful little boys is this:

Cindy putting on her cleaning hat and scrubbing, scraping, scooping what was once her little granddaughter out of that bitch’s stinking trunk.

Hey George…are you gonna make Cindy take one for the team this time around and get her to drive the Pontiac home?
Longtime Lurker says:

July 20, 2011 at 8:52 pm

About the jury. Has anyone here ever been on a jury? I was on a jury for a criminal case about 4 years ago, I think several of my fellow jurors were nuts and/or incompetent. There was one guy who said he won’t find anyone guilty of anything, Because, get this — A friend of his was murdered a while before, and the suspect was found not guilty. So, if that person wasn’t found guilty of murdering his friend, then no one else should be found guilty. (apparently he wanted to make his theory/belief that the system does not/can not work a reality)

There was a woman who was so mad about having to be on the jury, she said something like “You guys decide.” She was so glad to get out of there (the whole trial & deliberation lasted 4 days I think), and said “how do they expect US to make a decision about this?” I don’t think she involved herself in any of the discussion at all.

The trial was sad because both the accused and victim were children. It involved a 16ish year old, accused of molesting a 7ish year old (ages at the time of trial). Alleged molestation took place about 2 years before trial.

Some people wanted more proof of the molestation, thought it just he said/she said. Someone attacked the victims mother for not being hysterical enough after finding out that her child had confided (to other kids) in front of his aunt (mom’s sis) about the molestation. Apparently the aunt/sis called the mom when she heard the child talk of the incident, and the mom immediately called police, before even seeing her child. Police advised her not to question the child, to let them have a professional talk to him first and see what’s going on. Mom followed this advice, and for that she was hated on and suspect for not acting emotionally.

Someone else didn’t want to convict of anything, because the perp would be branded a molester the rest of his life, and he was so young to have to face that consequence. Also said the little kid was just showing off to his peers.

Someone wanted to see the actual report from the psychologist, instead of just the testimony given by psych. Request denied by judge.

There were 2 charges, don’t remember exactly, but as a compromise we decided guilty of one charge, not guilty on the other.

I also have a friend who was on a murder trial. Don’t remember anything about evidence, but the majority wanted not guilty, saying the perp would get his justice on the street.

So, I don’t think it’s that unusual for juries to be clueless. Just sayin’.
WPG says:

July 20, 2011 at 9:03 pm

Soooooo . . . remember the 2 online articles from Canyon News that contained “comments” from Aunt Pam (which she later denied on TV via phone) as well as comments from the authors of an upcoming novel about the Ant’s?

Believe it or not, the author of those articles is also an actor who now says he will be starring in a movie version of the novel in this latest article also written by him. Quite the read . . . :

“Authors McKenna And Rulli Talk About Caylee Anthony”
Posted by Tommy Garrett on Jul 19, 2011 – 8:43:14 PM

(snipped)
“Authors Kathleen McKenna and Marti Rulli have penned an exceptional blockbuster, and now Hollywood mega producer Bella Avery is picking up where they left off, and is in the process of finishing a sensational script, that I am happy to announce I will star in.”

(snipped)
“When pressed on where the male patriarchal figure will play a role in their upcoming novel, author Marti Rulli concluded, “Unlike the jury of 12 who are now claiming they believed George had something to do with the murder of Caylee Anthony, there’s no way we could allow our better senses, our logic, and our verifiable research to take us in that type of a direction. We did uncover, however, viable evidence that George and Cindy Anthony knew their granddaughter was dead long before stopping the organizations that helped search for the missing child.”

http://www.canyon-news.com/artman2/publish/National_News_1182/Authors_McKenna_And_Rulli_Commemorate_Caylee_Anthony.php

ROTFL

OMG, that is hilarious, these nitwits are hoping to rake it in based on chit everyone already knows for 3 years.

Is it just me, or do these folks think people are idiots? Anyone who has a deal, does not promote it, and if they did, would hire a PR firm, not some semi-illiterate dude writing in 10 pt.

Sigh- again
B
SOTT says:

July 20, 2011 at 9:34 pm

nana2 says:
July 20, 2011 at 6:12 pm

@ Sammy says:
July 20, 2011 at 3:49 pm

Cindy and George want all the evidence returned to them.
Yep, even the “it smells like there’s been a dead body in the damn car” mobile.
They say they’re afraid these items may end up on Ebay.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Bull they want to destroy all of the evidence.. They don’t want to take the smallest of chances that something could ever come back to bite them in the @ss.. If there is nothing left than there could never have been a crime.. That’s why the cremation too IMO.. Its like Caylee never existed to them.. Sorry again..

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Nana2 and Sammy,

I have been wondering lately about the death mobile and what would become of it…does evidence forever remain the property of the State?

Sammy, I agree with you that g & c are more concerned about someone else making a buck off of the car than themselves.

Nana2, I most definitely agree with you that they would want the car destroyed, much like cremating Caylee. I will never understand that! I mean, her decomposing body is in a car trunk for days in the summer heat, then discarded in the woods where she is ravaged by animals for months….has her poor little body not suffered or been disrespected enough at this point?!?! Not in the Anthony’s mind. They go one step further and instead of giving her a proper, dignified burial after all she has been through, they cremate/burn her remains so that in the event that medical science develops to a level that they could glean more information regarding her death, there would be nothing remaining to test.

It will be interesting to see what they do with the car. I doubt very much that either they or FCA will be driving it. I’d put my money on them getting rid of the car, but keeping the pool.

I’ve been quiet here lately because I still can’t reconcile all of this, and much like Sandy Banks said above ” I’m over this… I’m nearly over this… well, I’m working on being over this…. LOL “. I have been reading everyday and am in awe over all the great posts and insights.

btw, after signing the petition for Caylee’s Law, I received what are most likely “form e-mails” from the assembly-persons in my state (NY)saying that they are working on drafting legislation for Caylee’s Law. I know that it will never right this wrong, but it will prevent a tragedy like this from ever happening again.

Ragdoll, you have been on fire lately, friendy!
lyla says:

July 20, 2011 at 9:51 pm

@nana2 says:
July 20, 2011 at 6:07 pm
This is the interview with juror Ford that truly bothers me when she talks about “all three people were there & no one rendered medical assistance (pp)” so is she placing George there with CA & is she talking about the pool ‘theory’ ? Then she uses the phrase “I was reaching I was reaching” sounds like words from a movie script & so dramatic.. What is she reaching for? Ms Ford seems to feel & also talks about how the state didn’t prove how the child died so I guess she truly didn’t understand that the state did not have to prove that.. What a farce IMO.. Obviously I can’t get past this verdict & this jury I’m sorry..

http://www.huliq.com/10473/juror-3-casey-anthony-trial-speaks-abcs-nightline-video
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Juror @3 bought the Baez theory as did the other jurors. Reasonable doubt in their minds. Baez did a terrific job and the jury fell for it, hook, line and sinker.
“This ration (10 to 1) was eventually cited by Blackstone (Blackstone on Law) “better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer”. So be it.
lizzy says:

July 20, 2011 at 9:55 pm

From WPG’s link above:

“Reading Kathleen and Marti’s manuscript felt like eating Godiva chocolates from a trash can filled with maggots.”

That was a compliment??????

LOL, totally in this scenario, wth? I would not let that person write a sandwich board saying the end is near for me.
B
Ragdoll says:

July 20, 2011 at 9:56 pm

SOTT says:

July 20, 2011 at 9:34 pm

Where ya been, friendy? Thank you for the shout out! Mucho love and hugs <3
Ragdoll says:

July 20, 2011 at 10:03 pm

@ Eloise says:

July 20, 2011 at 4:39 pm

LOL friendy! I saw that…had a GREAT giggle at how far we could take it. I love that B didn’t miss a beat on your post

Love to you E!
cbickel says:

July 20, 2011 at 10:12 pm

ok..I’ve got to ask, what does the “F” in FCA stand for? Yes I really did grow up in a small town and sometimes I’ma little slow.
Ragdoll says:

July 20, 2011 at 10:14 pm

How about that NFL lockout, eh?

Anyone with depressed spouses?

Yes, Mr. Blink
B
mellaril says:

July 20, 2011 at 11:49 pm

Longtime Lurker:
you’ve over-thought the pool thing. there is NO reason to sit in jail and waive an immunity offer if the big mystery was simply an accident. that’s just the garbage theory that the DT came up with in the three years they had to try to concoct some BS story for casey. as far as ICA being in protective custody, i believe that was for her “protection.” all of the vitriol you see in the public at large was exactly what she was dealing with in the pokey, only there were instead of protest signs there were really scary women ready to shank the “baby killer”. i believe the protective custody would have ended once she was found guilty, however. but we never got that far.

and thanks for the insight to how a jury works — very interesting. people are really quite dim.

also, sharai, i think i might have a crush on you. so smartie! love your posts.
Riverpearl says:

July 21, 2011 at 1:40 am

“Felon”= “F” + CA [FCA]

Chgn, since no longer “I” [inmate] = “I” + CA [ICA]
JR says:

July 21, 2011 at 4:26 am

What stands out to me in the juror’s interviews, is that they recite Jose Baez’s closing statements and repeat some exact words ie) “speculation”,”emotion”. When asked about the prosecution’s case, their answers are either very elusive or very inaccurate in what was presented. ie) Juror 3 confused where Casey would have given Caylee the chloroform after George saw her leave the home: “In the back seat of the car? in a public place?” No recollection whatsoever that Casey would return to the house when both parents were at work,the neighbor who saw Casey back into the garage on two different days and the whole “here’s your fucking gas cans” incident when Casey came home, surprised to see George.

They say they felt sick having to render their verdict, yet did nothing to consult the legal framework and evidence which would of allowed them to make any other choice. Instead, they seem to be finding reasons and making excuses any which way they can to warrant their decision. ie)George “seems” deceptive on the stand, when the person ON TRIAL is blatantly deceptive on audio, video, to police, to family, to friends and even admittedly so.

Ive said it before and saying it again, something just seems up with it. Apparently they had weekend family visits…it wouldn’t be too hard to get to these jurors via that family members (ie) bribes. just a thought.

When we hear from all or most jurors, I am interested in seeing which ones went from yes, we think she killed her, to “Your right I must be a stupid cuss, this never happened and duct tape is apparently airborne..

B
wendy says:

July 21, 2011 at 5:07 am

@Long time Lurker–The prosecution knew about the defense’s “accident” claim and molestation about 6 weeks prior to the trial. They then informed George and Cindy. No, it doesn’t make any sense that one would sit in jail for 3 years for an accident when they were being charged with first degree murder. It was a story they concocted and went with it full steam ahead. Nor does it make any sense that an accident would be made to look like a murder. How these jurists came to their conclusion and verdict will never sit well with me.

As to KC being in protective custody (not solitary confinement) it was due to the publicity of the case, for her protection. She did get heckled by the other inmates when they were able to make verbal contact. Apparently the women are able to talk to each other through the pipe system. This may be where KC heard the story about an accidental drowning accident and the grandfather finding the baby. Of course, we know that KC and Robin Adams were creative in passing notes to each other for quite some time by putting notes in the library books for each other. One day I’ll look back and see how long Baez portrayed the story of Zanny. He stuck with that story (KC 2.0 story- got to love Jeff Ashton for that one) for a good 2 years.

I am so ashamed of the verdict that these 12 jurists came up with. They did NOT follow the letter of the law. Not even close. I wish the prosecution would have know what morons they were dealing with so they could have spelled out the evidence more clearly for them and explained some simple analogies regarding their responsibility. It seems they were unable to make inferences when it came to George not being truthful, but couldn’t/wouldn’t do the same for the evidence. If it is wet outside, one can assume it rained. They didn’t see it rain, but can infer that it rained because everything is wet. How could they not have put the evidence together and seen a murderer in this case? The 31 days, the smell of decomposition, the dogs hitting on the odor, the chloroform in the trunk and the computer search on how to make it, the tape around the babies skull, the baby wrapped in garbage bags and thrown in the swamp, all of the lies. OH, I’m so angry and depressed at this verdict and I’m trying my best to get over it. Why did they think they needed to know the how and why to convict? All they were required to conclude was 1. That Caylee is dead 2. That KC was responsible for the death and 3. (for first degree murder) conclude the murder was premeditated. I’m so sick of hearing the excused these jurists are spewing about a lack of evidence. I don’t believe they would have convicted if KC herself had filmed it. I also believe the foreperson had a very heavy hand in persuading the 6 jurist who felt KC was guilty to change their vote to not guilty. I also believe he was the one who told them not to use emotion in their deliberating. They confused this with the fact that they could use their common sense and infer what was plausible. His interviews seem very smug and his information is incorrect. He stated that there were minimal amounts of chloroform in the trunk. Did he not listen? There were massive amounts which was amazing in itself due to the volatile nature of chloroform. He stated KC looked up chloroform the day after she saw Ricardo’s computer showing “win her over with chloroform”. The day she saw this was never established, only that it was sometime in February or March. Juror 3 didn’t realize that KC went back to her house once she “pretended” to leave. She thought George was the only one there after KC left. What planet was she on? Did she not hear about the cell phone pings placing her in the direct vicinity of her home? They NEEDED to go over the evidence and revisit these things, especially given that they didn’t even bother to take notes. I have heard many statements such as these that were inaccurate. Bottom line is, they didn’t follow the law.

I have written CNN as Nancy Grace seems to have new pictures of Caylee. I am assuming the Anthony’s are getting “licensing” fees for them and I believe that money is just as much blood money as it is if it were given to KC. I don’t agree with it and won’t add to their pockets. Knowing how much the Anthony’s hate Nancy Grace and seeing that their attorney is on there is very suspicious to me. They will sink to the abyss for that blood money every last time. Hence, the desire to get back KC’s belongings under the guise of worrying that someone may sell it on ebay. Give me a break!

I also, am not clicking on anything related to KC or her defense online. I don’t want to add to her financial gain or her twisted thinking, which I’m quite certain somehow interprets all of this hype as a desire and yearning for KC. This hype is about an innocent little girl who was murdered by her mother and got away with it. Period.
Eloise says:

July 21, 2011 at 8:59 am

That fool Geraldo is getting ready to discuss on tv that the SAO did not reveal exculp. evidence at trial. Somebody needs to shut them and correct the record.
Eloise says:

July 21, 2011 at 9:04 am

He says they SAO never told anyone, and did closing without clearing up the evidence brought forward by Bradley.
Eloise says:

July 21, 2011 at 9:07 am

Claiming prosecutorial misconduct. (sp)
And no FCA is not at his house.

Can someone please ask his news director, who he is hopefully not married to again, to stfu?
B
GeorgiaDad says:

July 21, 2011 at 10:02 am

A brief comment on the evidence.

The state only gets to keep the car, etc. if it was used in the commission of a crime. The jury has ruled that it was not proven that the car was used in a crime. No evidence was presented that Casey used the car while lying to the police. Therefore, the car needs to be returned to its lawful owners.

The fact that it will probably by melting down and sold a “Justice for Caylee (TM)” paperweights, keychains, and bookends is quite unfortunate.

I will personally thump every person that would consider such a purpose.
Some days..
B
JannyFay says:

July 21, 2011 at 10:04 am

I see ya’all’s point about boycotting any and everything Casey related but I have an alternate theory. I want her life to be a living He**. So, where I won’t buy any books written by her, her family or her defense team, I want the press to hound the crap out of her. I don’t want her to not have a moments peace in her lifetime for the terrible crime for which she so clearly gotten away with. If it takes sucking it up and clicking on articles or watching tv shows about her, (except ones that she will clearly profit from ie: her interview for a million bucks) I will do it. I want her to suffer for the rest of her natural life as I know she will suffer in the life to come. Maybe I’m wrong and if I am help set me straight, I know you will. I absolutely loathe that woman and her family who helped cover and obstruct justice so she could live the “Bella Vita”. They should all be hounded and made miserable every day of their lives.
pen says:

July 21, 2011 at 10:12 am

So what if there was only 1 chloroform search, chloroform was found in the car! This case still makes my blood boil. Looking forward to Casey’s first interview or book because I think so many of us plan to ignore her she will go away.
Kleat says:

July 21, 2011 at 10:29 am

nana2, I don’t know about any movies with ‘I’m reaching… I’m reaching’ attributed to the idiot juror without one common sense brain cell, but I sure am familiar with that term as being used by Casey, in her interview with detectives… “I was reaching…”.

And thanks for the OS link to the info in the civil case– was looking for that doc, but good enough to have the quotes from John Dill’s doc. Thanks!
Kleat says:

July 21, 2011 at 10:35 am

New filing looks like from lawyer Greene (assuming) in the ZG vs CA case: (Greene changing tactics now that Casey is about to roll in her own type of ‘green’?)

07/21/2011 Notice of Voluntary Dismissal OF AMENDED COUNTERCLAIM; sent to rec 7/21/11

What is one small child’s life worth, and what was her suffering as she died, ‘worth’? Nothing to her parent, nothing to these jurors who believed a lawyer’s ‘testimony’ about a phantom drowning, nothing.

You knew this was going to happen, next they will stipulate and imo, eventually offer a settlement out of court with a non-disclosure clause. Casey’s asking price decreases by the second if she is publicly deposed, this is a worthwhile investment for her.

The problem is, the networks and publishing houses are of the opinion that the backlash will fade, and people will eventually want to hear from her, and the defense team. Jose’s banking on it, and he is trying to lock deals in NOW, under that premise.

This might end up being the first time ever the Media Conglomerates eat their young.

Ask Rebekah Brooks what happens when your actions bring the house down..

B
Kleat says:

July 21, 2011 at 10:58 am

Blink and friends, here’s something to consider—> http://www.wesh.com/ulocal/28613110/detail.html
Kleat says:

July 21, 2011 at 11:10 am

So….. is this why KC didn’t testify? Because she couldn’t be paid enough? If she really wanted to testify and tell about the ‘drowning’, worth putting everyone through everything for three years, for this big payoff– no question why she didn’t admit to the drowing earlier, same reason for all of everything she does, Baez pointing the way.

It’s amazing that she ‘lucked into’ this particular lawyer in ‘booking’, huh, as proven of course, by the age-old Anthony technique of saying something that someone hears (like a jailhouse video), to confirm how something happened (not!). I still don’t buy the Baez entry into this.
Kleat says:

July 21, 2011 at 11:10 am

(It’s like she had ‘help’, just like Cindy said, only it might have been a Hispanic lawyer)
Helen Back says:

July 21, 2011 at 11:22 am

“When we hear from all or most jurors, I am interested in seeing which ones went from yes, we think she killed her, to “Your right I must be a stupid cuss, this never happened and duct tape is apparently airborne..”

B

NO KIDDING! And agree with all here that by their own admission, this jury did not have the slightest grasp on this case. Could NOT ONE of the 12 formulate the question, ” If Casey had no problem throwing her entire family and any stooge under the bus, why didn’t she do it when she was being questioned by the detectives? The charges would have been different, and she would have been out of jail a long time ago. DUH The only logical reason is that she had to 1. buy as much time as possible to allow for advanced decomposition of her daughter’s body and 2. she didn’t think of it.

It’s laughable that any of these jury members can continue to defend their verdict. The team of “Hoe-Say MyAzz” has admitted, through the blabbing of their jury/media consultant, that they formulated the entire defense strategy based on intel gathered from Facebook, etc. and it had absolutely nothing to do with evidence. She admitted they went after George based on how the public felt about him. Hello, Earth to Jury? Is it possible that they still don’t get that they were played like the fools they are, and they folded like a roomful of cheap lawnchairs? I could scream! Somebody please stop me!

It would be very interesting to know if Hoe-Say and Co. specifically targeted the “social networking” accounts of jury members, once known by name, during selection or during the trial to gather intel for the tailoring of their selection and/or case direction. Come to think of it, that explains a lot regarding the defense’s ever-shifting story. Maybe they were just going with the Facebook Flow.
Kleat says:

July 21, 2011 at 11:56 am

Another entry from yesterday just added to the clerk’s file for the civil case. (the ZG civil case of course)

07/20/2011 LETTER
Kleat says:

July 21, 2011 at 11:58 am

(about the lawyer helping, wasn’t suggesting anything directly to the crime, but wonder if KC had help advice-hypothetical-wise, before she was reeled back home).
Jnpgh says:

July 21, 2011 at 12:03 pm

Did everyone see taht Mark Lippman has announced that Cindy and George are now starting a SECOND foundation!!!!!

Now there’s going to be Caylee’s Fund that will champion grandparents’ rights and passage of Caylee’s Law ….and – shocker – Cindy and George are going to be the Adninistrators of this new foundation!

The previously set up foundation will still remain active ….so I guess George and Cuindy will take administrative payment from each foundation?? WTF!! Does their chutzpah know no end????

Blink – tell me I’m missing something here!! How can they set up yet another non-profit organization when the first one already is evidently coming in at 80% going to administrative costs ….How do they live with themselves!!
Charlotte says:

July 21, 2011 at 12:04 pm

Okay, at the expense of looking really dumb here – can someone please explain to me exactly what this means. I would SO appreciate it. Thanks

New filing looks like from lawyer Greene (assuming) in the ZG vs CA case: (Greene changing tactics now that Casey is about to roll in her own type of ‘green’?)

07/21/2011 Notice of Voluntary Dismissal OF AMENDED COUNTERCLAIM; sent to rec 7/21/11
Ragdoll says:

July 21, 2011 at 12:41 pm

@ Sharai says:

July 20, 2011 at 6:07 pm

Thank you for sharing your insightful wisdom with BOC. Your posts have had me thinking about where to go from here.

The word ‘vortex’ is heavily associated to this ugly situation. Getting sucked into it is not only, not an answer, but it’s a choice. I don’t know how y’all are feeling, but I am emotionally spent. I’m ready to sue for stress and aggravation.

This is going to be so cathartic….

Good bye Creature, Jose Dumbass (c to the reepy) and his duh dense team, Cindy (buy a bra, forfeit the cud chewing) & George (grab some nards and run for the hills) Scamthony, Lee (two words….Mustang Sally), Leonard Padilla (it’s time we put you out to pasture), Joy Wray (don’t lose the straight jacket), LKB (no plastic in the world can cover up fugly), Whorealdo (self explanatory), leeches seeking out a fast pay from Caylee’s shed blood, the jury (epic fail team)….trolls, did I mention trolls???….this list is too long already.

Thank you to those who came to assist only to be shunned by Creature’s enablers, especially Tim Miller…BLINK, VALHALL, SCAREDMONKEYS…(all Caylee’s warriors). Thank you to the SAO for pulling it together for Caylee. There are good hearts out there.

I just want to focus on Caylee, her legacy and help our children be safe from predators. Donate to children’s charities (no, that does not include any foundation established by C & G…I wonder what happened to that boat????).

The house is now clear.
Ragdoll says:

July 21, 2011 at 12:45 pm

Thank you for the link, Kleat. What a great place to start…for Caylee!
WPG says:

July 21, 2011 at 1:29 pm

(snipped)
“You knew this was going to happen, next they will stipulate and imo, eventually offer a settlement out of court with a non-disclosure clause.
Casey’s asking price decreases by the second if she is publicly deposed, this is a worthwhile investment for her.
B”

Agree, especially, too, after Morgan and Morgan filed a motion requesting full disclosure from FCA on all things financial and financially related including any present, ongoing or FUTURE deals.
If she in process of purchasing property, for example in California, this would also fall under disclosure, IMDO.

She has a federal lien, she can do nothing until an agreement is reached or she pays it, anyone who would form a financial “blind” of any kind with that knowledge would be subject to criminal charges. Casey Anthony has a Fed levy, pending lawsuits and I pray to Christ that Amy Huizenga throws her hat in the ring, because she deserved punitive damages for this nightmare, imo.

She does not have her own Heisman to steal at gunpoint, maybe she could sell that straightener with her prints on it?

B
WPG says:

July 21, 2011 at 1:42 pm

Just to add, I lean towards thinking an out of settlement offer will not be accepted with a non-disclosure clause.
The one who VOICED the damage and defamation to another, is compelled and necessary to VOICE in a public court of law as part of the remedy, IMDO.

In a different situation I agree, but keep in mind, the client in this case, makes that decision, and Mitnick and Morgan have to weigh the fact that a defamation suit of a woman with a limited earning capacity, and vindication she never did anything wrong going into it, has already got a “likely equation” factor. It is unethical and unlawful especially considering they are getting a 1/3 of whatever she gets if they advise her to roll the dice for an unrealistic outcome, and I doubt they would.

For this to work in the way I KNOW John Morgan is going after, he is going to have to do what the state never did, and that is PROVE how Casey got Zenaida’s name, based on the one visit to Sawgrass on June 17th.
B
chelsea says:

July 21, 2011 at 1:46 pm

Re: Rebekah Brooks, how the mighty are fallen!! The hacking scandal had been bubbling away on the back burner for months then BAM!! I don’t believe the backlash against CA or the Jury members will go away any time soon.

@ Kleat: http://www.wesh.com/ulocal/28613110/detail.html Lovely idea to commemorate a beautiful little girl,Caylee. Will do.
pale rider says:

July 21, 2011 at 2:19 pm

Sharai says:
July 20, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Respect for authority is that the crux of the discussion? On the other hand, is it respect for the verdict, or maybe respect for the process of reaching the verdict? In reality, (although it might appear to be) agreement does not equal respect, likewise, disagreement, does not equal disrespect. It is what it is. Those of us who followed this case from its inception have gleaned an incredible amount of knowledge concerning the character of all the players, the evidence, and various circumstances prior to and following Caylee Marie Anthony’s death. The question that begs to be answered is how did the criminal justice system, the trial by jury, the jury deliberation, and subsequent verdict respect the premature death of this little girl? Who is being held accountable for her demise? The answer is no one is being held culpable for the homicide an innocent two-year-old child. How can anyone respect that reality?
Shalom.
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Wow excellent post, and I absolutely agree!!!!!
pale rider says:

July 21, 2011 at 2:26 pm

Sharai says:
July 20, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Serving on a jury requires strength of character, integrity, and humility, as well as respect for and adherence to the process.
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Sharai, you strike again!
Obviously, Baez perverted the judicial system beyond recognition for any of us with any cognitive abilities! Yes, a snake oil salesman is spot on, and sadly, he’s probably proud of that!
And you, my dear, are far too intelligent to be selected for jury duty. sigh…. sad and funny…
pale rider says:

July 21, 2011 at 2:27 pm

Sandy Banks says:
July 20, 2011 at 6:37 pm
All the evidence should be crushed, burned, and otherwise destroyed so that NO ONE can profit from it…including that car… beside the Scamthonys are driving around in a brand new RED jeep, so what do they need the car for? Let the State keep the car as partial payment for the wasted search time. I’m over this… I’m nearly over this… well, I’m working on being over this…. LOL
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Haha, Sandy, me too…….
pale rider says:

July 21, 2011 at 2:41 pm

nana2 says:
July 20, 2011 at 6:12 pm

@ Sammy says:
July 20, 2011 at 3:49 pm

Cindy and George want all the evidence returned to them.
Yep, even the “it smells like there’s been a dead body in the damn car” mobile.
They say they’re afraid these items may end up on Ebay.
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Bull they want to destroy all of the evidence.. They don’t want to take the smallest of chances that something could ever come back to bite them in the @ss.. If there is nothing left than there could never have been a crime.. That’s why the cremation too IMO.. Its like Caylee never existed to them.. Sorry again..
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And yet their pool still stands in their backyard.

That says it all, doesn’t it?
B
Dave S. says:

July 21, 2011 at 3:01 pm

I wonder if Cindy and George are still swimming in the dead pool? If my child died in the pool that pool would hve been taken down long ago.
maryfromthemorganthread says:

July 21, 2011 at 3:06 pm

I just have one last little comment and question before I head back to Morgan’s thread. I’ve seen some headlines and comments that the defense used social media to formulate their theory and to chart their course during the trial. That gives me a queasy feeling. In going back over old threads some posts were almost verbatim to the defense theory. It’s sickening to think that in trying to help there has actually been harm done. Please tell me that the prosecution monitored social media too, at least I will feel like it is not all in vain! Especially during the trial, when many were posting quick snips of their impressions, the prosecution could have put sites like this to use also. Did they?!?
Sammy says:

July 21, 2011 at 3:22 pm

pale rider says: @ July 21, 2011 at 2:41 pm
And yet their pool still stands in their backyard.

(Blink reply)
That says it all, doesn’t it?
B
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The whole pool scenario is bunk anyway, so why would the pool bother the A’s?
Cindy is quite content floating on her noodle in the pool – b/c no one ever drowned in the pool.

BUT … somewhere in that house is where little Caylee did have the life drained from her precious body.
Casey/Caylees’ room is my guess. MOO
So how can Cindy and George live in that house?
How can they even walk past the door to the room where Caylee’s last breaths were likely drawn – where their evil spawn of a daughter committed murder.
How ??
It just baffles my mind.

I would never be able to return to that Hopespring Dr house – not even once to retrieve any of my clothing or belongings if I knew the evil that had happened in that house.
I’d leave it all behind – everything in the house is tainted and poisoned.

I suppose it’s useless to ponder the how’s + why’s of what the A’s are able to stomach.
They are not like 99.99999% of the the population.
They don’t think or feel like any human being does.
Not only that, but they’re also too stupid to figure out how they’re “supposed” to react to things such as this – too stupid to even figure out they should probably at least feign some fear, disgust, sadness.

Trying to understand the way the entire Anthony clan ticks is impossible.
Because anyone with a sane mind, morals, ethics, and feelings – can never understand how they are able to do all the dirty grubby things they do. (such as not realizing or caring that setting up another faux foundation with Caylee’s name attached to it would make most of the world vomit).