Karen Swift Missing: Clothing Found Is Hers, David Swift Lawyers UP, Mr. Yuk Hogshooter Is A Doppelneighbor
Dyersburg, TN- Missing Mom Karen Johnson Swift’s disappearance is looking more and more like whatever fate the well-liked fitness buff encountered, happened very close to her home on Willie Johnson Road.
David Swift, Karen’s estranged husband, has told police Karen left the home at approximately 1:30 am the morning of October 30th after an earlier jaunt to retrieve the couple’s youngest daughter from a planned Halloweenfest sleepover.
Karen attended a Halloween soiree at THE FARMS golf club earlier in the evening dressed as cat-woman; her costume was found in her unlocked and abandoned car.
According to the Dyersburg Country Club by laws, regardless of handicap all attendees turned into pumpkins by midnight that evening so it is not likely Karen was headed back there. Reports of her leaving the family residence at that hour are based solely on her husband’s last exchange with her.
Swift filed for divorce from David on October 1oth. The couple had been divorced and remarried to each other previously.
David, a former Columbia Forest Products employee, is an independent business owner in the aerosol packaging field and Karen has been developing a horticulture business as “The Yard Lady“.
While Mr. Swift has refused all requests for comment by the media, he is also now refusing to speak to investigators and has referred all inquiries to his recently retained attorney.
Mr. Swift was observed in his driveway after he returned from an interview with DCSO in the first days of the investigation on crutches.
Mr. Swift underwent emergency surgery for a torn patella tendon in April of 2011 but by all accounts has long since recovered from the injury sustained at his daughter’s soccer field.
Speaking on the condition of anonymity, sources inside the investigation have confirmed to www.blinkoncrime.com that David Swift refused to allow a search by consent of the couple’s 5 acre property after the first meeting where he allowed officers to look throughout the home for purposes of confirming Karen was not there.
Following discovery in a overgrown area included in the search grid and submission to the state crime lab, the Dyer County Sheriff’s Office (DCSO) prioritized a pair of jeans and gray zip-up requesting expedited results.
The source goes on to say those items have been identified through test results of mitochondrial DNA to belong to Karen Johnson Swift. The match was made from a sample comparative from Karen’s mother.
It is believed there are additional items that may belong to Karen that have been recovered- however, the forensic results necessary to confirm her positive association are pending.
During the topical search of the Swift home which did not include crime scene processing, the Swifts’s two young daughters spent time at the neighbors home.
Jennifer Lamb kept the Swift girls while police were at the Swift home interviewing their father with the intention of locating Ms. Swift.
In a seemingly inexplicable coincidence, both the Lambs and the Swift’s uploaded an image of a rainbow appearing overhead of the two homes spanning over 10 acres, the very day Dave Swift was served his divorce papers.
Marty Lamb, on his way to work at Nucor early Sunday morning, pulled in behind Karen’s white Nissan Murano and “flashed his lights” , only to learn she was not in her car. With no sign of foul play, Lamb assumed Swift returned the short distance to her driveway with no cause for alarm and continued his commute.
DCSO has reported that Karen Swift’s car had a flat tire and has been impounded for crime scene technician processing. What has not been addressed publicly is how the tire came to be flat in the first place.
Karen’s 2004 Murano is equipped with an electronic tire pressure monitoring sensor and she always backed down the nearly 200 foot driveway. As their was no evidence of a tire blowout, nor could she have been traveling at a high rate of speed, this editor questions how she could have missed a flat tire getting into the car in a well lit driveway in the first place, followed by missing the alarm signal and light on her dashboard. Swift’s car was found across from the home of John Hogshooter at 310 Harness RD.
Hogshooter Not Hogtied
John E. Hogshooter, in court yesterday on aggravated animal cruelty charges stemming from an alleged incident reported on October 7 by David Swift, was granted bond.
Prior to Mr. Hogshooter’s brief incarceration, his vehicle was impounded and processed for any possible evidence relating to Karen Swift’s disappearance. Nothing of forensic significance was found and the truck was returned to the former Dyer county Ervin softball coach.
In contrast to Mr. Swift’s refusal to allow LE to search his adjacent property, Mr. Hogshooter allowed his home and property to be searched voluntarily.
Hogshooter is alleged to have poisoned the Swift family dog as well as an as yet un-named neighbors pet who died as a result.
Within the complaint filed by David Swift, he states that he watched his dog walk onto the Hogshooter property and upon return, became ill.
A medication was administered by the Vet to counteract whatever the dog may have ingested and JackBoots was returned to the family the next day.
JackBoots, dog rescue of the Swift family, has a scannable chip implant that emits a low level frequency signal detectable by a scanner, or radio frequency identification (RFID), so it is possible to isolate for investigative purposes.
Doppelneigbor – the blinkipedia
(noun) Neighbor who is a ringer for the neighbor who is a person of interest.
These gentleman’s issues may have infinite degrees of separation- Siberian even, but how uncanny is it that they resemble each other to the point of fooling CCTV resolution?
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Images courtesy family photos, processing courtesy of Klaasend
Jacqueline Beaufort contributing editor
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Well Carp..
Looks like it may be closer to home then the next door neighbors.
Blink,
Have you seen this website:
http://thesop.org/story/20111108/does-karen-johnson-swifts-case-tie-in-with-other-cases-such-as-holly-bobo.html
Curious of your thoughts….I’m up in the air regarding this…however, another case that could be included in this website would be Jacque Sue Waller (though I’m pretty certain Clay is involved in this case).
Thanks for all you do…I thoroughly appreciate your commitment and talent you bring to the table…
Ladies, when you are sure you are leaving, get out as soon as you possibly can and NEVER underestimate the reaction of the other party. EVER! Trust your instincts and dont worry about insulting him.
Why would Swift allow his family dog to walk onto Hogshooter’s property and not immediately retrieve him? Doesn’t sound like a responsible dog owner, imo.
I am sure LE is on the right track and is bearing down on suspect(s) as we speak. From the moment I heard her vehicle was left on the roadside within walking distance of her home, I felt the perp had driven it there after the fact and flattened the tire.
Domestic until proven otherwise.
AJMO.
Great piece Blink!Well,well,well Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.(Sir Walter Scott)How many times have we been to this point before? Hubby refuses a search,stops talking to investigators and then lawyers up.The question of the day appears to be
If you have nothing to hide why act this way????? Maybe David could answer that one if he can put his crutches down long enough from his
healed injury.LE needs to get in that house and do some forensic work
ASAP
Twinkletoes says:
November 8, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Ladies, when you are sure you are leaving, get out as soon as you possibly can and NEVER underestimate the reaction of the other party. EVER! Trust your instincts and dont worry about insulting him.
I totally agree with you on that one.Get out fast!
Rainbow is beautiful and yet haunting.Was it a sign? Karen where or where are you….
Haunting is right- I have about 10 of these images and the upload just freaked me out- I do not freak out easily these days. As a side note, this lovely neighbor lady takes great pics.
B
When I first spied Karen-in-Red standing in her Missing Photo next to a tall man (also in red) with ‘thick’ shoulders, I began to fixate on that aspect and what it might mean in her disappearance (and likely demise).
Now that I see Hog in T, I am amazed at how he could have subbed into that first photo. However, my analysis of the two photos indicates two very different men. Not that I am a casual observer.
Thank you for informing us about David’s refusal of a search and Hog’s aggreement. I also wonder if David allowed the dog to walk “into danger” and was able to intervene to save his life. Poor Jackboots.
I think there is a sickness afoot. Jackboots might lead the way.
Sigh. I know.
B
I read in another article that PI Bill Warner seems to think that disappearances of other women might be related to this case and he thinks maybe they may have been abducted by an over the road trucker. If that is so there is a likelihood that such a trucker would have used a storage facility for his trailer/rig. Dyer Distributing at 1009 E. Court Street, Dyersburg, TN has private rig self storage rental; S & G Trucking on Gibson Street, Darden, TN has it as well, and in Florence, KY there are several but Best Self Storage rents to privately. I am wondering if FBI or LE have looked into such places to look for a common name or outfit that rented such space on corresponding dates or time periods these persons went missing. It is strange that not one of these women have been found which would seem to indicate they are stored or warehoused somewhere, and if that is the case, then possibly still be alive. I don’t know that a search warrant would be needed to make that kind of inquiry to trucking distributing companies that rent storage to private rigs.
Yes, it would require a warrant, but honestly, I do not believe that the issue is a serial abductor of blondes and is more fodder for conspiracists than anything.
The MO’s of these cases have only hair color in common outside of the fact that they are unsolved mp cases.
For me, that says TN has a flat out epidemic of un-qualified investigators and law enforcement agencies working cases and something needs to change.
Y’all have heard me ad nauseum on the need for a mp task force for immediate escalation for agencies ill-equipped to handle the ramp up necessary- this would be a great state to start, imo.
B
Mr. Swift lawyering up and not allowing a property search certainly doesn’t sound good. From comments I’ve read elsewhere, even though he’s on crutches, he is getting around without them. Was he expecting some kind of settlement for this accident? If he was, he could have been having some selfish, greedy thoughts (I’ll bet his lawyer would be, too). I was curious why we haven’t seen/heard Karen’s friends/family speak out. Surely, they could offer some insight. At any rate, my prayers for her family and children.
Jeff Johnson, Karen’s brother has given one interview. The family is beyond devastated.
I have heard rumors of a settlement- but if there is one, there is no pending civil suit in any jurisdiction I could find. If he has truly re-injured his knee, I would definitely be interested in how and when considering he was seen the day before without crutches.
B
Does anyone know why David Swift was using crutches? I think that him refusing to allow a search of the property is causing my mind to sway towards “hes got something to hide”…..if the father of my daughter was missing, I would allow whatever search efforts necessary to help find him….unless I had something to hide of course.
“These gentleman’s issues may have zero degrees of separation- Siberia even, but how uncanny is it that they resemble each other to the point of fooling CCTV resolution?”
I read this sentence so many times last night, and I’m still baffled.
But, after sleeping, I read it again, and maybe I get the Blinkism now of “zero degrees of separation- Siberia even.” Do you maybe mean “infinite degrees of separation” instead?
Or are you saying they really are twin brothers separated at birth in Siberia?
E tu? Lol.
Yep, your imagery said it better than I could certainly.
B
Twinkletoes is right – if you are the one filing for divorce, before you file the papers, have your exit strategy in place after consulting with your attorney regarding state laws about ‘abandonment’ and if there are children or pets what the legal issues might be there as well. DO NOT think you can be going through a divorce and living in the same house with him!!! If there are documented issues of abuse, you can be sure it will escalate once the papers are presented.
lizzy- I can’t even tell you how close to home this is for me right now- I know how you feel sister.
B
Why did Karen had the Cat Woman clothes in her car? Did she not had this clothes on at the Farm prior to pick up her daughter as the daughter got sick? Did she changed clothes before she left the Farm or did she change her clothes at home and put them after in the car?
Poor Kids they have all my thoughts and love.
Please pray this father did not kill his children’s mother. They do not deserve to loose one parent, and certainly not both.
I have been doing that since I wrote the first piece.
B
Do you think her husband would have left the car that near from their home
if he had anything to do with Karen’s disappearance? I hope from all my heart
he had nothing to do with this. In my eyes He is not an option for the moment
even if it easy to look at him do to the circomstances surrounding their marital
status.
I think at this point that option cannot be ruled out. I also think it makes no sense to dispose of her purse and phone several miles away and leave her car parked in front of your house if you were involved.
B
Wow, what a great investigative piece. Mr. Swift’s injury seems of great relevance in the disappearance of his soon to be ex-wife. Not to gossip, but the picture of the rainbow is significant – the question is:
are the neighbors having marital issues?
Fair question I considered myself- not to my knowledge and no evidence of that whatsoever.
B
Maybe crutches = I can’t even hold my own weight so I couldn’t possibly have done any harm to a struggling women.
Let alone chased her somewhere, or dragged her, or you get the picture.
B
Blink- Excellent article. Those two men look alike. I believe Mr. Swift has a lot of layers of what lies beneath.
About the question of patella tendon reinjury:
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1249472-treatment#7
note with weaker quad strength associated with this injury & repair, reinjuries about now could be expected during any activity. He needed to be doing PT daily himself, & conditioning (elliptical, leg press, etc) and even then could “blip” & get in pain for a bit. My reading of medscape above says it takes a torn, repaired patella tendon 9-12 months. I’m no health care prof, but my daughter had a pateller transplant (acl replacement). At 6 months despite rigorous PT & conditioning, she had a “blip” (so painful couldn’t walk, swollen) for no apparent reason. her top flight surgeon said the same had happened to 2 other surgical patients of his that week, at 4 and 6 months & attributed to surrounding muscles. Though she couldn’t walk & had an elevator key at school, she went to a dance & stood 3 hours without her crutches the day of the reinjury. Vanity motivates. I don’t think anything can be read into reinjury or recovery up until the 9 month point.
Another question I had was in reference to the car. If I had a flat tire in the middle of night, that close to my home, I would have driven on my flat tire right back to my house. Period.
Jane I updated the piece to include the tire pressure sensor in Karen’s car- I don’t know how that paragraph got dropped in editing, thanks for reminding me to check.
B
Also, I recall having read these two families – Karen’s and the Hogshooters are somehow related. Could it be possible these two men are actually brothers – separated/adopted at birth? I must say that life as we once knew it certainly has changed. Lordy, things are no longer as they appear and are soooo complicated.
I do not know if the Hogshooters and Johnson’s are related outside of both of them having lived in AR.
B
I am not sure why these are not on the new thread so I am bringing them over. The regular type is from poster Coco.
If you are going to write about David at least get your information right. He might have owned a side business but he works at Tenaris as a manager in Blytheville, Arkansas. David adores Karen. He loves her more than anything beside the kids. Does it not tell you something that when Karen filed for a divorce she chose to live with David still? Did you ever stop to think that maybe she was trying to get his attention? It wouldn’t be the first time. David is a loving husband and father and a wonderful person to have as a friend. He wouldn’t hurt a hair on Karen’s head like some people are insinuating on here. They made the perfect couple if you were ever around them. They have worked hard together to raise some really wonderful kids. David’s only fault is he works too much. He has to work a lot of hours at Tenaris. Karen didn’t like it. So give the family a break and help them find Karen instead of sitting here talking about them.
Ms. Coco
with all due respect, your comment is entirely devoid of the facts of the situation. I have been at this awhile, David may be a lovely man, but please note your post intimates your an insider, and it lacks any contradiction about his hiring of an attorney and refusal to have the property available for search for valuable evidence that might be critical to recovering his beloved wife.
Perfect couples? Have you spoken to her family or close friends? They do not share your glass is full mentality, and to their credit are not willing to discuss publicly.
If David is so loving an perfect, I can tell you that as a statistic, he is not helping himself.
B
Coco says:
November 9, 2011 at 6:51 am (Edit)
Did you ever think that David hired an attorney because the police always goes at the other spouse so hard? As far as the property that is part of the focus on him…and he believes they need to be looking else where and not loose anymore precious time that may save her. Personally I would have let them look but that is me. I am not saying they didn’t have their problems but they were a good couple together. Yes I have talked with her family if you must know and they don’t like all the negative comments because there are the children. I am not saying David is perfect but the way everyone is describing him on here is way off base. Karen is one of the most beautiful people you could meet. I am not talking just physical but on the inside. Even though they are getting a divorce she would hate all the negative comments going on. I truly believe they have the guy….but it isn’t David.
Coco, with all due respect, David has no basis for opinion on what LE should or should not focus on- keep in mind, he filed the missing person report. I have seen no misrepresentations of him, and I do not allow flagrant mudslinging a la topix here.
If you are in touch with Mr. Swift, one consideration he should have if he is as interested in not “losing precious time” as you say, is that without his cooperation LE cannot exclude him, and if he is not involved, that stance is draining resources more than anything, I can assure you.
The reality is, and I am sure his attorney has explained this to him, every bank record, email, transaction, purchase, sale of any items, timeshare status, work schedules, GPS, cell phones pings and the like (you get where I am going with this) is already in the hands of LE or in the process of same. There are interviews being conducted with family, friends, and associates of people that do not understand or support David’s behavior at the moment- I know because I have interviewed some of them off the record.
Has he considered if he is not involved that those very kind souls who love (d) both of them would like nothing more than for him to be excluded so that they can extend their support?
See many cars of the couples extensive friend base in the driveway? In my work, that is telling, period.
The home and property, and any other potential locations tied to the couple will eventually be searched via subpoena anyway- ergo, why not allow it now?
LE needs to move past him for several reasons, the least of which is that how they proceed with their investigative directives changes radically if the person that is responsible for crimes like this nine times out of ten can be eliminated as a potential suspect.
Really- he wants her found but won’t give LE her freaking toothbrush or worn item from the laundry?
I find that way more offensive than any rumor because at the end of the day, I can tell you this from experience, nobody cares about that stuff, they are both human beings and as such we are all flawed- but one of them is missing and likely the victim of foul play and that fact is not going away.
As the father of 4, with two little innocent cherubs I have no doubt he loves with all his heart, he has got to put them first now, and he alone knows what that means.
These children and this family are in Hell on Earth and like it or not, the only thing that will start the process to alleviating their grief is to find Karen- regardless of that outcome.
I never met Karen, but I know many Karen’s, literally and figuratively, and as an advocate for victims, we work for her only right now, and that task priority is finding her.
Lastly, I feel tremendously for the situation you are in, truly.
My advice to you is to follow what your heart and your gut agree on, and what they do not set aside until they do.
My advice to David is to realize that people in this situation always think they are in a position to control events, they never do, that is just self-fulfilling claptrap and the Mother of his children deserves better.
B
Under Doppelneigbor – the blinkipedia Note:I just love your way with words. When I first saw the pics of David,a few days ago I had this
weird feeling come over me and couldn’t figure out then why.Now looking at this closeup here I understand.I have always been a visual person,if I meet you just once I will never forget your face.I have been told the eyes are the windows to the soul.I do believe this,they tell a story of their own.I always listen to what the eyes are telling me.That’s what struck me about David’s pic his eyes.I can see the deceit in his eyes.The worst experience was watching the Charles Manson interview in prison.I will have to say his eyes burned a hole right through me.I saw pure evil and years of pent up anger.I also didn’t realize how much Hogshooter and Swift look alike.To tell them apart,look at the space between the eyes.Different oh yes.
Karen’s car- anyone notice anything?
http://www.stategazette.com/story/1782538/photo/1574761.html
B
Comment from Coco:
“They made the perfect couple if you were ever around them”
Nothing is perfect,even diamonds have flaws in them.That word is so overused.
It is getting closer and closer to home. My original comment on this case has now been confirmed. The flat tire on the vehicle was probably the result of someone partially removeing the valve core from the valve stem and letting the tire go flat. I just question if the investigators looked at this.
When the people get enough of poor LE results, then the idea of a special group to do missing persons and abductions will be developed. The people will have to force the issue and provide some oversight to make it happen.
I have a tool in my vehicle for seat belt slicing, window smashing, a flashlight and digital pressure reader. If I wanted to release the air out of any tire I would simply hold it in place, sort of like if you don’t close the valve at the thingie you go to to put air in your tires when they need it. Nobody would ever be able to tell how the tire was flat until they got it back to the impound, imo.
I am bothered by two things- this vehicle, IF it had a flat, was not very flat, imo, and you will notice the pics show one very distant to the rear, and only the left side. I am beginning to wonder if the assumption the tire was flat was based on a communication or interview instead of the car condition.
You catching me drift?
B
Blink – fyi there is breaking news coming up on Megyn Kelly(sp), Fox News re Baby Lisa case. I won’t be around to watch so maybe someone can fill us all in.
Thanks, well we know there is no case, lol
B
Blink I think my recent comment got lost in cyberspace.I don’t even see it in wait mode
This is all I have pending for you daydreamer.
B
Blink,
Regarding the car, is the driver’s seat in a position for Karen or someone else as the driver?
Can’t tell.
B
Coco,
i know now that you were not close to Karen, so do not purport to be close to her. I didnt know her but my experience with the couple spoke nothing close to a perfect couple, in fact it was the opposite. Karen was threatened by David, if you were close to Karen she would have told you that in October. So quit fooling the rest of the world. Mr/Mrs B, dont know if you are the editor or not but these words you used are so powerful to anyone who witnessed anything worth a shred to report to the sheriff:
“My advice to you is to follow what your heart and your gut agree on, and what they do not set aside until they do.”
I will continue to asssist in anyway i can till Karen is found, my gut feeling is that she is dead, because she told me her husband made a threat at her. I am therefore not inclined to think that anyone else was responsible but her husband, but i can be certain, 100% sure that he could know where she is given the above evidence.
Of note:
1.Who really poisoned the dog, since only the husband saw the dog go to the neighbors and he didnt follow his dog or call it back.
2. He was the last to see Karen
3. Karen being an athlete could have run home if tire was “flat”
4. Karen could have driven the car all the way home with the flat tire.
5. Husband refusing a search of his property.
6. Husband not cooperating with investigators.
7. On husbands facebook page he likes “CSI” and “Americas most wanted”, may have planned a perfect disappearance.
8. * Karen said he made a threat at her life, and i witnessed him being verbally aggresive to her.
Karen i will keep beating this drum louder till you are found, i heard you and i will let the world know
shesaidit-
I just wanted to clarify with you the part of your post I did not understand- you said that you did not know Karen, but she told you David threatened her- how is that possible? If your response is what I think it is, please mark your post PRIVATE at the top and I will address it or not, with discretion.
B
Karen’s car:I don’t see a flat tire and her windows look tinted.If that is the case how true is this report Blink?
“I saw her car on the side of the road,” said Lamb. “I was on my way to work Sunday around 5:30 a.m. I checked it out, I looked inside. I noticed it had a flat. I just thought she probably walked home it’s so close. This really scares me that this happened so close to my house when I have a wife and kids to take care of.”
http://www.kfvs12.com/story/15940482/search-continues-for-missing-dyer-county-mom?clienttype=printable
Great article Blink & Co. and good investigative work.
Blink, where did you get the photo of the SUV that appears in the Nov. 4 article on Karen? Is this an actual photo of Karen’s car or simply a photo of the type of car she drove, for reference purposes? The Nov. 4 photo shows the right side of the car, viewed from the rear. Comments on that article suggested that the flat tire must have occurred on the left because everything on the right look ok. In the sheriffs photos of the car– showing the left side and the rear of the car (posted Nov. 9, 10:23 am)– everything on the left side looks ok. In the sheriff’s photos, the car appears to be level both front-to-back and side-to-side. This makes me think that the “flat” tire wasn’t a severe flat tire and was perhaps (as others have suggested) a result of someone letting air out of the tire…perhaps after Karen exited the vehicle, or even after she went missing. This could have easily been done on the side of the road where they found her car or even in the driveway of the Swift residence (if Karen never left the home in her car). You also ask a great question– why would she have left the home in her car if the tire pressure sensor in the car was lighting up and/or signaling an audible alarm.
The first pic was released as a similar model, the one I posted earlier are her actual vehicle.
B
Karen’s car :2004 Nissan Murano Tinted?
The windshield and front side windows are tinted green to deflect UV radiation; the rear side and rear windows are near black for privacy.
Coco, I know that you feel that David is a wonderful person. I’m not saying that did anything (at this point we don’t know) but wasn’t Jeffrey Dahmer, a sociopath, described by some people as having been charming? If David is innocent, the first thing he needs to do is to allow a search of his–Karen’s– home. By refusing to allow police to search the residence and by refusing to be questioned, he is slowing down the police’s ability to move forward in the search for Karen and investigation. Anyone who truly cared about Karen would be willing to make any sacrifice asked of them in order to find her and bring her home– regardless if it were to allow a search which seemed to invade their privacy, to answer as many questions as possible, to make public pleas for her safe return, to push themselves to their physical and psychological limit so that they had the peace of mind found in knowing that they did everything in their power to aid in the efforts to find her and bring her home. Regardless of any testimonies to David’s past behavior or apparent character, not only is he currently not helping LE find Karen, but he is actually slowing down the process. Regardless of how he justifies this behavior to himself or others, it is simply motivated by selfishness. And for what reason, at this point in time, should he be behaving selfishly?
On a side note, I feel that if a person goes missing that LE should be allowed by law to search the primary residence of the missing individual. At this point I am disgusted that David won’t allow a search of the property– it was Karen’s property too, and in my opinion, that should take priority.
My pending posts aren’t showing in moderation. Sorry if I duped!
Hey, my post just got lost too, I think. Hmmm
Here is a repeat: Karen’s car- anyone notice anything?
B
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Drivers side window is open in the middle of the night in late October. Brrrr.
Dirt by drivers door is disturbed more than other areas.
No visible flat.
Yes I catch your drift Blink. The ease of partially removing a schrader valve from the stem is less effort than your description of using the tire gauge. One can even purchase a valve cap that has a slot at the top to remove the valve from the stem. All it takes to create a leak is to make about one turn on the internal threads.
Makes me question how good the investigators looked around the area of the car before moving it. If the tire were very low or flat, there should be evidence on the ground from the scuffing of the tire. The partial removal of the valve would have to be checked by the investigator at the impound or if they tried to reinflate the tire when the vehicle was moved. It would leak air after inflation.
As sad as it would be, my take is that someone from the home area drove the car to the spot where it was found, took steps to make the tire go flat and walked back to the home.
The hard part about the possibility of fingerprints or DNA is the fact that all the adults may have used the vehicle from time to time.
Of course, the story of the flat tire may not be true. Do we have a known source for that piece of information that would not have a special reason for giving it?
That is a great picture of an ATV built on the style of a golf cart. This one has a small bed at the rear. As long as the slope of a creek bank is not too steep, this style with the wide tires could cross most creeks if the water is not too deep. These vehicles make a lot of noise when they run. Far more than a pickup truck running at low speed.
David’s lack of cooperation is a big red flag. As such, I think it is worthwhile to question everything he has said, and perhaps we should revisit the alleged poisoning of the dogs.
As another poster pointed out, if David observed his dog going onto Hogshooter’s property, why did he not retrieve his dog immediately?
The poisoning of the dogs could have been a strategic move for David, if he were indeed involved in Karen’s disappearance, setting the stage perfectly for Hogshooter to be the person of interest in this case.
It is on David’s word that we believe the dog ventured onto Hogshooter’s property in the first place and that that is where it was poisoned. In reality, David could have poisoned both dogs directly, or he could have planted poison on Mr. Hogshooter’s property.
I find it interesting that the Swift family dog survived while the other dog died. I assume the other dog also received veterinary treatment. I wonder if the other dog ingested more poison than the Swift’s dog? Was this accidental and random, or was it intentional that the neighbor’s dog died while the Swift’s dog survived. Having a dog die from being poisoned is much more horrifying and threatening than if it survives, though both are terrible. If David were behind all of this, could he have spared his family’s dog in order to spare his children the grief of losing their beloved pet?
The confrontation between Karen and Hogshooter could create a “motive” for a crime, even if only a distraction in reality. I would like to know if this confrontation did indeed occur (did Hogshooter say it did?) or if this information came from David.
Given all of this drama– real or fake– between Hogshooter and the Swifts, it only becomes more of a concern that Karen’s car was found parked across the street from Hogshooter’s house. And yet the police have cleared Hogshooter of any involvement. This makes me wonder if Hogshooter was being framed for Karen’s disappearance– as well as for the poisoning of the dogs.
Without making any specific allegations, that possibility is exactly why I worded the piece the way I did.
B
My thougth about the open drivers side window is, who drives at night with the window all the way down in late October, even in Tennessee. What was the temp? She may have rolled it down to talk to someone.
Finally, can we address this statement from Blink’s article:
These gentleman’s issues may have infinite degrees of separation- Siberian even, but how uncanny is it that they resemble each other to the point of fooling CCTV resolution?
Am I correct in inferring that there is CCTV footage from somewhere in Dyersville or surrounding area….hopefully on the night/morning that Karen went missing… which shows a man resembling Mr. Swift/Mr. Hogshooter? Perhaps LE thought it was Hogshooter initially, given the dog situation, but since he has been officially cleared…. who does that leave us with?
I have not heard that Hogshooter, or anyone else has been “officially” cleared, but allowing the search and return of his vehicle are good signs. Karen’s has not been returned.
B
I applaud your response to Coco.
The car doesn’t seem to have a flat at all.
I am still going with the hubby on this one. Especially since DS won’t let LE in his house/property to investigate. Hogshooter is letting them in? That’s a telltale sign right there. Also, what if DS poisoned the dog himself and blamed it on Hogshooter to make him look bad? Then Karen goes missing and DS says its Hogshooter, he poinsed my dog, had an encounter with Karen the other day…blah blah blah.
Smells funny to me.
Dustin- I do not allow family members or friends wishing to post as themselves do so without vetting them first.
It is to prevent anyone from just saying they are speaking on behalf of the family so that folks on here know what level of credibility can be assigned. An example is I have had people post on here claiming they are local, and have an ip address in a different part of the country.
Our of respect for Karen, and your family, I would like to maintain that level of integrity, I hope you understand.
Would you like me to email you at your email address to accomplish that?
It was probably between 54 and 43 degrees when Karen (or someone) opened that window all the way down. If this is as the car was found when it was found, that open window is peculiar.
Here is a weather history link:
http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KDYR/2011/10/31/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA
On October 30th it was approx 50 degrees from 7pm to midnight, dropping into the 40s in the wee hours.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2058839/Karen-Johnson-Swift-missing-Friends-family-plead-Tennessee-mothers-safe-return.html
I understand Coco but what you write is reasonable, wise and very well wroten Blink.
You remain objectiv and focused even though you hope aswell the father didn’t done wrong.
Absolutely, let himself be cleared, I will front page it and offer any resource available to help.
B
What is it that Dustin wants to say? Is it that the Sheriff’s office has confirmed that the clothing found/matching Karen’s DNA has NOT been revealed nor released?
Many people are being hurt by statements being made left and right, not confirmed….and many have come to this site, hoping for better than the usual topix gossip…..but many have been disappointed today once the Sheriff was called to verify the claim made on here “on the condition of anonymity”….
I realize you may want to get the jump on news, but family is reading this…and putting up stuff that is labeled as such really is pointless to put up. I suggest waiting until it has actually been verified and publicly released
Respectfully, has anyone bothered to just ask DCSO if the information they have chosen not to release is correct? Is “we have not released that information at this time” an acceptable answer to you when Karen has been missing for 11 days and just this afternoon pictures of her car are finally released in response?
I would suggest to you then that if one came here for better than topix gossip, they got it.
There is a reason that LE is not the media and vice versa, I know it is asking a lot, but maybe you could just trust me on this one.
B
First, I would like to Thank you so much for your help, concern, and reporting on Karen’s disappearance. Next, in this report, you are being contradicted by Angie Gallaher by your statement of:
Blink on Crime reports: “Following discovery in a overgrown area included in the search grid and submission to the state crime lab, the Dyer County Sheriff’s Office (DCSO) prioritized a pair of jeans and gray zip-up requesting expedited results.
The source goes on to say those items have been identified through test results of mitochondrial DNA to belong to Karen Johnson Swift. The match was made from a sample comparative from Karen’s mother.”
Angie Gallaher (http://www.facebook.com/angie.gallaher) stated in disagreement: “A friend of mine just confirmed with a deputy from Dyer County that no information was ever released that Karen’s clothing was found. If you want to know yourself, call the sheriff’s office.”
Could you please clarify this matter and stand behind that report or make a retraction on your report?
Welcome to BOC, and may I say how sorry I am that your friend Karen is missing. It would be my greatest wish to sit in my office with nothing to write about.
If you do not mind, I am going to change your “hat”, because we have a long time poster Mom3.0 and I can tell you right now that will confuse the heck out of people, she has quite the following here, lol. You are now 3aremine unless you prefer to pick something else not in use.
On a serious note, I reported what I was told by my sources. This would be the same ones that confirmed Mr. Swift is not cooperating and has hired an attorney and as you can see through a poster who I vetted privately, that information is quite accurate. Your friend is correct that the Sheriffs office did not release this information. I did, but I also note that they did not dispute it’s accuracy.
Sources can sometimes be wrong, in which case if proven so in this instance I will absolutely correct the piece, but I should say it would also be the very first time for me and being more specific would compromise a source, so I know you understand that.
I have also not reported everything I have been told as it is case sensitive and has been passed to DCSO.
I would also like to point out that the images of Karen’s car were released today, 11 days after she went missing. While I think Sheriff Box and team are doing many things right in this case, time is of the essence and the concept of you have to give a little to get a little works wonders in requests for information to the public.
This was my way of helping that along. Karen needs to be found.
B
So why would DS not cooperate? that is a big issue!
What looks like selfprotection under instructions from a
lawyer could be looking like selfincrimination for LE.
What are they afraid of?
After following BOC for over two years now-I know that Blink uses all pictures and carefully chosen words in her articles to make a point. Not that I always get it(I’m a little dense sometimes!), but I know she is careful about what she puts out there and is methodical about it.
So I need to comment on the picture of the camo jeep/mini truck with open bed, in the snow, on this current article.
It looks to be occupied by one of the Swift children and David, I’m guessing.
My question would be-is this vehicle, with the big, “off road” tires, still owned by the Swift family?
Because if it is, it would make a really good disposal vehicle on the unsearched part of the Swift property. No need for crutches, dragging, etc….
Just sayin.
There are at least 2 ATV’s on the property
B