Susan Powell Husband Josh Powell Murders Kids Commits Suicide During Supervised Visitation

Joshua Powell, husband of missing and presumed deceased Utah woman Susan Powell,  deliberately triggered an explosion Sunday afternoon killing himself and the couples two young sons Charles and Braden Powell.

 

A case worker arrived with the children for the court ordered supervised visitation was blocked entry by Powell, and shortly thereafter the home exploded.

Josh’s Father Steven is awaiting trial for various perv charges and all over creepiness, and Josh was just denied custody of the children in favor of them staying with Susan’s parents,  The Cox’s.

 

www.blinkoncrime.com wishes to extend our sincere condolences to The Cox and members of the Powell Family who are not perverted freaks or murderers.

It would seem I recall expressing my concern this was a definite concern early on.  I wish to commend all that recognized this and did everything in their power to give these beautiful little cherubs their best chance.

These little guys see their Mother today, and I pray that there is comfort in that reality for those dealing with this loss today.

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724 Comments

  1. christy says:

    “Riverpearl says:
    February 8, 2012 at 2:09 pm
    “During the interview, Alina became upset and refused to allow Det. Sanders to copy the emails and refused to provide the phone to Det. Sanders,” the search warrant states.”
    ——————————————
    Why on earth would she do this?

    I wonder when exactly she received the emails and voicemails? What exactly did she do about them? Did Powell think she might stop him? Did she have enough time to do so but just chose not to?! If she knew where he lived then why wasn’t she driving there calling 911 on the way there?!

  2. sammi says:

    @ Titch, Yes, normally any GOOD dispatcher would have them in motion. But those systems I believe also have a priority trigger iirc. I would love to know what mr ahole set that first call as! when he got time from ‘life saving’.

    We know that first call, he couldn’t have put much into action because – she was still frantic to get help on the second call. “he blew the house up” and even then, it was over 3 mins into THAT call where we can hear she finally has someone official there. Was it LE or was it a fireman? I would bet that trigger wasn’t set off by mr condescending but because by then the house had blown, there were many dispatchers and Fire contacted from multi sources. And because as you point out, if triggered correctly they are on the spot swiftly.

    We need the times of all those calls! Hope those come out soon.

  3. zeus says:

    BLINK, I know you are not able to comment easily because your on location, but was wondering what you thought about my post last night?

    **“It now appears that Josh Powell may not have been living in the Graham house that he set on fire Sunday, and may have only staged it for visitations.**

    **The neighbors never saw him,” Troyer said. “So we think he was just using the house as a staged location for visitations.”**

    More below:
    _____________________________________________________________________

    zeus says:
    February 8, 2012 at 5:14 am

    This is really disturbing and should have been picked up on long ago. So it looks as if no one really checked out the home that JP was living in, to be sure he was actually “living” in it.

    __________________________

    “It now appears that Josh Powell may not have been living in the Graham house that he set on fire Sunday, and may have only staged it for visitations.

    Pierce County Detective Ed Troyer told 97.3 KIRO FM’s Ron & Don Show that investigators have determined his plot to kill himself and his two young sons goes back at least 24 hours.

    In his Graham neighborhood, Troyer said neighbors rarely saw people coming and going from the house that Josh Powell was renting.

    “We think he was living in places where he shouldn’t have been. But he’d just staged a home with pictures on the wall of Susan and some of the kids clothing there, just enough stuff for the visitation. The neighbors never saw him,” Troyer said. “So we think he was just using the house as a staged location for visitations.”
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    Add http in front of link:

    ://mynorthwest.com/11/624009/Powell-house-appeared-staged-for-visitations-chilling-911-calls-released

  4. I really wish people would quit saying they need to make new laws, we have have laws put in place and designed to protect children for centuries….we might should upgrade laws as times change and we see people circumventing laws to protect themselves or their families.. people do become immune to government, ( they should say make the existing laws tougher) ….the system is flawed, the system is only as successful as the people in that system make it… when you have flawed judgement or lack of it (limited resources or systems driving by government funding), then the system is tainted or the capability of human error is more prevalent……More laws will not make a system quit failing, we have to teach accountability and responsibility to our children, it falls back on society and how we teach our children degrees of responsibility and respect…..we have a generation that lacks empathy, compassion , kindness and care….when you have these people you have to interface with all the days of your life….it becomes disheartening and frustratiing to say the least..You have all kinds of outcome….lets all admit, individual respsobility isnt going to chang ea whole society…we know this….but stiffer penalties now may infact shape our future genrations to see standards are a way to contain moral turpitude…..We have to have tha tin order for systems to work… when people dont have standards, we loose respect for our selves and each other…. OH gosh,…i am not making excuses….i just would so love to see either society change their methods of rearing their children ( and that is likely not going to happen, when you have so many people looking to other avenues to not raising their own kids) so the other option would be stiffer penalties and consequences. holding people accountable ( making examples out of them) stiffer penalties for child abusers… crimes against children should NEVER EXIST.. EVER. Jus saying.. sorry for butting in….. i agree with Blink though, someone seriously needs a reality check on the powell side….it cant be all of them off the chain like this….SERIOUSLY a whole family discombobbled???? good gravy.. or the lack of good DNA GRAVY….all joking aside….thereis nothing to laugh at when kids are involved to this degree…I just cant measure this….i would have loved to had those boys to raise.. absolutely adorable intelligent little youngins. ;o) i hope they book that grandpa with something.. i hope they do, his conscience is not clean.

  5. Doug says:

    Pepper Anderson …really? Had to be before your time. :)

  6. Cindyc says:

    So the courts have failed two more little ones. It is always the parents never the best interest of the child. This will continue until the laws are changed. We are mothers, father’s, grandparents, aunts, uncles, brothers and sisters, we have a voice and we should all stand up and shout we are not taking this anymore. What about the children? How many more innocent little ones will be killed by their parents because of their own selfish desires? God please protect the children.

  7. Cindyc says:

    My heart aches for these two little boys. The fear they must have felt before their death. I heard on the news late last night that not only he blew up his home but that he had also chopped the little boys up with a hatchet. Can you even image the pain and fear that these two little boys felt.

  8. zeus says:

    Alina Powell photo, supposedly from today, when they served a warrant to take her cell phone since she was NOT cooperating:

    —————–

    “Deputies seize Alina Powell’s phone with Josh Powell’s voice messages, emails
    Alina Powell refused to willingly turn over the phone”

    http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-deputies-seize-alina-powells-phone-with-josh-powells-voice-messages-emails-20120208,0,5409358.story

  9. Countrybump says:

    13006.1

    http://socb.idaho.gov/Misc%20PDF%20files/Psychosexual%20eval%20standard%20outline.pdf
    Maybe this explains the pos’s actions. He didn’t want all his and his family’s dirty secrets to see the light of day.

  10. Rose says:

    See on the right. Looks to me like she’s a foster parent & a regional repr for foster pardnts. this is a newsletter for caregivers:
    http://www.dshs.wa.gov/pdf/ca/CaregiverConnectionMAY2011.pdf
    Another pdf was taken down but this one survives for the moment

  11. Titch says:

    I’ll bet that first dispatcher will never ever ever be condescending again – for the rest of his life.

    Education is a must. Changes in policy at the state level need to take precedence.

    If the dispatcher is guilty of negligence, then so is the case worker. If the case worker is negligent, then so is the company she works for. If that foster assistance company is negligent, then so is CPS & DSHS. If CPS & DSHS is negligent, then so is the court that oversees them. If the court is negligent, then shouldn’t le be at fault for not sharing Josh’s original computer chit with them? What about le leading the Cox’s to believe an arrest was imminent? Omg it could go on forever.

    Fact – It is a MUST to know all about a person other than ourselves that is put in a position to be responsible for our children. – including how they would handle an emergency.

  12. Ragdoll says:

    @ B

    Paypal is not likely to allow anyone to use their service for donation links. I’ll try to get more info for you on that.

    Side bar: Guess who’s planning on protesting @ the boys funeral?

  13. Judi says:

    This has shook my to my core, this is THE MOST evil thing I have ever seen. What beautiful, beautiful children. I myself am the mother of two boys (now grown).

    These precious babies were sitting in the same vehicle with their father while there mother was in the trunk. The knew she was in the trunk.

    They watched Daddy bring Mommy into the caves. They only seen Daddy come out.

    They never seen their Mommy again.

    We are told that they weren’t even allowed to bring up her name, let alone ask about her, see pictures of her, nothing.

    He TRIED to erase her from their lives.

    Daddy tells the most ridiculous of stories about the events of that night and what he told work about missing Monday.

    Then we find out that Daddy’s daddy is a sexual perv.

    Their loving maternal grandparents get custody.

    At least they have Susan’s boys to hold close and to love and to look at and see Susan in them.

    But, after probably failing an exam, somehow he gets granted a supervised visitation, at his home.

    Then he does the unspeakable, and kills not only himself, but those precious children. And, then we find out what he did to them before exploding the house.

    Now, a mother and her precious boys, all gone, all at the hands of one man and his family.

    And, now Susan’s family is left to grieve a grief that is unimaginable.

    What an absolute tragedy.

  14. Ragdoll says:

    Apollies for over posting. I’m finding things AFTER I post.

    -police seize Alina Powell’s cell phone-

    http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-deputies-seize-alina-powells-phone-with-josh-powells-voice-messages-emails-20120208,0,5409358.story

  15. zeus says:

    Per Sgt. Troyer (“We think he was living in places where he shouldn’t have been.”)

    Does that refer to Steve Powell’s house? But Troyer said “PLACES”–where he shouldn’t have been. That’s plural, so what places shouldn’t JP have been living in?

    Anyone?

    http://mynorthwest.com/11/624009/Powell-house-appeared-staged-for-visitations-chilling-911-calls-released

  16. Sweetie_Pi says:

    $7,000 can buy a low-level,smacked out hitman – or look-alike vagrant (“I am paying you to go answer the door and get my sons in the house”) with $$ left over to Mexico. A drugged out hitman wouldn’t know he was being set up. Still don’t have a timeline down. Did the CW postively identify that it was JP that answered the door, or a slim white male. Could she testify to that under oath. Again, unless a second ME independent (FBI lab?) identity test is done I wouldn’t trust the initial results. Coward is as coward does and IMO JP would have bought a gun to do himself in, period. Conniving psychopath that he is/was, you gotta think like he would think. All the emails precisely timed, voicemails something tooooo perfect about that. Just need to be 1,000 percent making sure is all, cuz if he did set this up, he still is out there, the Cox’s are in danger.

  17. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Riverpearl

    Thanks for all your input on these developments and of course the details of what should have been done by the case worker and the agency.

    The more we learn the worse it gets. Even the 911 operator was not trained enough to ask the proper questions. All she would have needed to know was the telephone number of the Powell residence. The 911 system is triggered from the phone number. It will pull up the street address.

    If this woman had been assigned to this case since the first week in November of 2011, she should have known the physical address, telephone number and a lot more as you point out.

    This whole situation has come about because the people in charge are not trained to do their jobs properly. This includes the judge, the court clerk and the contract agency doing the CPS work.

    If I were the Cox family, I would do everything in my power to remove this family court judge and the contract agency from ever being allowed to participate in another case. The state needs to step in and do an in depth investigation including the 911 system and the operator training.

    From what we have learned, I have no doubt that Susan was probably attacked with a hachet or hammer to render her unconsious, placed in the trunk of the car to be driven to wherever Josh dumped the body and if not dead, left to die alone in the freezing weather.

    The Powell family lawyer is a worthless POS for not doing more to help resolve this situation. Yes, he should try to protect his client, but his responsibility to the court is to help facilitate the truth.

  18. Blink says:

    Don’t even need to guess. Starts with a w?
    Paypal is used for donations, but they have an aggressive getting process.

  19. Ragdoll says:

    @ B

    Yes!….and correct, paypal makes it difficult (was the wording…lost the link).

  20. Ode says:

    zeus says:

    February 8, 2012 at 7:20 pm
    Per Sgt. Troyer (“We think he was living in places where he shouldn’t have been.”)

    Does that refer to Steve Powell’s house? But Troyer said “PLACES”–where he shouldn’t have been. That’s plural, so what places shouldn’t JP have been living in?

    Anyone?
    ******
    I wonder if he was someplace very close to the Cox’s? I also want to see the proof it is him. The $7000. is a big WHY as well as who cares about their utilities when they are planning to do the most horrible of horrible things to his children…He wasn’t even kind enough to make sure it was quick…and what location was someone suppose to turn off the utilities???? I would also like to no when the last time was he spoke to or saw Freakin Daddy Monster in jail.

  21. Sharai Rudolphi says:

    Individuals who are incapable of making and/or sustaining any significant positive change; who have little to no emotional and/or spiritual depth; and have no insight nor ability to develop insight into the affect their behavior negatively impacts others most likely have a pathological personality disorder. JP repeatedly exhibited these traits and many others, as does his father. We as a society need to become so familiar with the character traits of such individuals so that when they enter our lives their disorder is obvious and our natural inclination will be to remove ourselves from their presence and inform others of our observations. This knowledge needs to permeate our society such that mental health professionals, law enforcement, and those within the justice system can easily identify and protect the innocent. JP’s disordered mind was evident to most who participate on this blog. It boggles my mind that the court system and/or child protective services did not readily identify the danger and take steps to protect these precious little boys from their pathological father. The horror they must have endured in the final moments ought to be a catalyst for change within the agencies responsible for allowing visitation. With the CA case, the need for a GAL was obvious. It is my understanding that the boys had a GAL. If so, apparently there needs to be more in-depth training for recognizing, identifying, and inhibiting the dangerous actions of pathological individuals such as JP. It is time to make some changes within a system (with all due respect) that is ignorant of the brain functioning of pathologically disordered individuals. JP’s behavior is indicative of his disordered brain functioning. This does not excuse his actions it merely identifies his dysfunction. Who takes an ax to the sweet little necks of a 7 and 4 year old boy, in the presence of one another and then as they bleed out sets the house on fire? A pathological individual whom has been observed displaying numerous characteristics for the past two years of having a pathological mind, that’s who. God help us to wake up to the reality of the presence of evil within our world and enable us to learn how and then provide adequate protection for the innocent. Shalom, Sharai
    Note:

  22. Ode says:

    Sweetie_Pi says:

    February 8, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    $7,000 can buy a low-level,smacked out hitman
    *****
    OMG could he have paid someone to take someone else out. Now I am worried about the Cox’s safety.

  23. Ode says:

    We need to know when he last talked to his father. Have they cooked up some other scheme.

  24. Blink says:

    @Doug
    Well, I was probably too young to watch it, but I watched all the great shows with my Dad when I was little.

    Omg I used to run through the house with a cap gun and open and close doors . My poor parents.

    I was only allowed to watch PBS with mom, or go to the library.

    My dad will tell you thank god for that lol.

    B

  25. zeus says:

    “Pastor spoke with Powell days before murder and saw no sign of a problem”

    “PUYALLUP, Wash. – Josh Powell’s pastor says he spoke with Powell on the phone last Thursday night – just days before Powell killed his two sons and himself – and there was no indication of a problem or a “change in his outlook.”

    “Josh spoke with me during that phone conversation about seeing him Sunday evening following the Sunday afternoon visit with his sons,” Pastor Timothy Atkins of First Bible Church said in a statement.”

    AND:

    ““Although we had questions about the disappearance of Susan Powell, we made efforts to minister to (Josh) through giving counsel in making needed changes in his life…,” said Atkins.

    Atkins said in October of 2011, he helped Powell move from Puyallup into the house in Graham, and in November, Powell asked him to assist with child visitation by supervising visits with his sons.”

    http://www.king5.com/news/Pastor-spoke-with-Powell-days-before-murder-and-saw-no-sign-of-a-problem-138971879.html

    —————————————————

  26. erose says:

    I agree, they need to be on top of what ever that $7K was for, who got it and why. If Josh is dead, (would they say if he was not?) then no “hit contracts” need be honored. JMO.

    Ode says:
    February 8, 2012 at 8:30 pm

  27. erose says:

    Will there be lessons learned? I hope so, but right now it seems as too many are defending what they did do, and not asking what they could have done better? If they aren’t asking the right questions now, then when, if ever? Again, JMO.

  28. Titch says:

    @Christy- This is from Alina’s 911 call:

    (add www)
    .sltrib.com/sltrib/news/53467329-78/dispatcher-powell-griffin-hall.html.csp

    Snipped:
    Dispatcher: What makes you think there’s a problem with Josh?

    Alina Powell: (crying) There’s been a lot of abuse against him and he’s really upset.

    Dispatcher: What’s your name?

    Alina Powell: My name is Alina, and I’m his sister.

    Dispatcher: And what’s your last name?

    Alina Powell: Powell.

    Dispatcher: Howell with an H?

    Alina Powell: No with a P. There are emails and stuff and he left me a voicemail thing that got forwarded. He said something like he can’t live without his sons and (high-pitched moan) and goodbye and (crying)

    Snipped:
    Dispatcher: What else did the email say?

    Alina Powell: He sent several emails about how to handle his property and his utilities. They started a while ago, I didn’t think anything of it. They started early this morning. They were just weird emails. There was some kind of forward or something. I just missed it.

  29. Xara says:

    The post’s are coming pretty fast and furious here and I’m finding it hard to keep up….so, sorry if this has been asked and answered already…..has Josh Powell’s body been *positively* identified yet?

  30. marnie says:

    this is the first chance i’ve had to check in today. amazing all the info you all have pulled together. and i really appreciate the input from people in the professions.

    how much more bizzare is this going to get? i never even thought of him planning to escape himself, or getting someone else to burn in the house to make them think it was him. but now, this info about the $7k withdrawal, and the house being staged and they think he was living in other places.. omg. that explains all those pictures, which we all knew were staged to make him look like the good father, and possibly why his sister didn’t know the exact address, just how to get there, pos steven’s reaction, refusing to talk, josh’s making a point of saying he has not talked to his father since he was in jail.. one of the articles said his body fell on the second gas can. did he really screw up his own plan? or now, i am wondering if it really was someone else in the house. the cox’s absoultely should have extra protection until it is confirmed to really be him – and probably after, with the psycho family blaming everyone else for this. do they realize yet how diabolical josh and his father are/were?

  31. Ode says:

    erose says:
    February 8, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    I agree, they need to be on top of what ever that $7K was for, who got it and why. If Josh is dead, (would they say if he was not?) then no “hit contracts” need be honored. JMO.
    *****
    Yet Steve Powell is still alive. He is as evil as Josh IMO and maybe more.

  32. lyla says:

    Why did the court allow supervised visits for Josh Powell? For God’s sake he was/is a suspect in the disappearance of his wife and for good reason!!! This never, ever should have happened…somebody dropped the ball to say the least….mind boggling.

  33. lyla says:

    Has JP been positively identified as the Father of these two boys by the ME? If so, what is happening with his remains…???

    http://www.wlox.com/story/16740676/911-calls-released-funeral-for-powell-boys-set-for-saturday

  34. sammi says:

    SOB! I knew it!! (deep breath) grr

    Emergency call logs show that nearly eight minutes elapsed between when a social worker called 911 to report that Josh Powell’s children were in danger and when sheriff’s deputies were dispatched, and it too

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/911-call-worker-fears-josh-powells-sons-15537984k another 14 minutes for a deputy to get to the home.

  35. sammi says:

    They are all trying to tell me it’s raining down my leg.

    Troyer for one. He has been BSing and skirting around making up PR from the start and I am sick to death of it. He said it was only 3 mintues, we find out that isn’t true. Said the worker did all she could, we find out she was in way over her head. Now he wants to say all the delays with that POS dispatcher and worker didn’t hamper their response time. WTH!

    DHS Sherry Hill is another one. She changes her stories daily. She said right after, the boys ‘ran ahead’. Now she’s going with putting out the story they were just one step ahead. First she said if they thought there was a risk, they would have stopped visits. Now she is spinning there was no reason to stop visits. And she is the one that said the worker called her supervisor first.
    http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Father+Josh+Powell+blew+house+with+sons+deliberately+says+sheriff/6105791/story.html

    AND, DHS said the worker has been in place since Nov 2. Now that pastor is saying HE supervised visits.

    Now they are saying LE is investigating how the worker handled it. I suppose next Sherry Hill will tell us DHS is investigating LE.

  36. sammi says:

    They didn’t list her second call and are lumping together the neighbor calls. Why not just detail them all out?

    http://www.wfaa.com/news/national/138985309.html
    Associated Press

    Posted on February 8, 2012 at 10:06 PM

    Highlights of the 911 log detailing the police and fire response to Josh Powell’s home on Sunday:

    12:08:21 p.m. — Social worker makes initial call to 911 to alert authorities that Josh Powell has locked her out of his home while his two young sons are inside.

    12:13:20 — Calltaker transfers information from social worker to a dispatcher.

    12:16:02 — First calls come in to 911 from people reporting a “house just exploded.”

    12:16:03 — Sheriff’s deputies are dispatched to the home.

    12:21:45 — Josh Powell’s sister, Alina Powell, is on phone with dispatchers, telling them she received disturbing emails from her brother.

    12:29:59 — Deputies arrive at the Powell home.

  37. erose says:

    You’re right.

    Ode says:
    February 8, 2012 at 9:44 pm

  38. sammi says:

    Troyer dancing against his original ‘only 3 minutes’.

    “I see two problems: The delay in the dispatch, and they dispatch it as a routine call,” Pierce County Sheriff’s Detective Ed Troyer said Wednesday night. “Had our guy been going priority, and had they dispatched it in the first three minutes, we probably could have shaved 10 minutes off our response — but there’s no way we get there in time.”

    The logs show that the social worker called 911 from her cellphone at 12:08 p.m. Sunday, but it took her until two minutes into the call to find the address of the house. Three minutes after that, the man who took her call transferred the information to a dispatcher, who alerted two deputies about 2 1/2 minutes later, at 12:16.
    http://www.newsday.com/news/8-minutes-pass-before-cops-got-sent-to-powell-home-1.3513583?qr=1

  39. sammi says:

    http://www.katu.com/news/local/Oregon-case-changed-visitation-policy-after-mom-killed-child-138829604.html

    Oregon has made some huge changes after a local mom killed her child during a state-supervised visit.

    omg, in that case the worker was reading the newspaper while the mom walked away with the kid and strangled her daughter!

  40. sammi says:

    “Could it have been handled better, sure,” says Sgt. Ed Troyer of the Pierce County sheriff’s office. “Did it delay the call, that’s what being investigated.”

    But Troyer says while the dispatcher was talking with the social worker a seperate transmission went out to sheriff deputies. And he says that’s when the officer headed out.

    “He got their quickly,” says Troyer.

    How quick? According to LESA dispatch logs it took 8 minutes for the dispatcher to call the deputy.

    And it was another 14 minutes for him to arrive.

    Compare that to fire crews of the Graham Fire Department.

    They were dispatched at 12:17 and arrived at 12:22 for a response time of 5 minutes

    http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Response-time-criticised-in-Powell-home-explosion/JL4ZPmylokGB2tEqH_ff5A.cspx

  41. sammi says:

    Absolutely no deal has been offered by our office. If he [Steven Powell] wants to talk, we’ll listen. I don’t, at this point, have any reason to believe that Steven Powell was involved in any way with the murder of Susan Powell,” said Linquist.

    Sheriff’s investigators told a court Powell’s sister refused them access to text messages and emails from Josh. They got a warrant and seized the evidence.

    Pierce County Sheriff’s Sgt. Ed Troyer said that Josh did not make any hint that he was going to carry out the atrocities against his sons and that no one that was even close to Josh could have known.

    Troyer also followed up on Charlie and Braden’s donated toys.

    “The books and the toys and the things that he donated were recovered. They were just in the box and a lady saw them and saw the name on them and realized what she had and got a hold of us and now we have it,” Troyer said.
    http://www.fox13now.com/news/thesearchforsusanpowell/kstu-josh-powell-prosecutor-dispels-rumor-as-police-seek-answers-in-powell-murdersuicide-case-20120208,0,4600338.story

    Finally, I am too tired for anymore more late breaking news.

  42. Whaazupwitchu says:

    JP = one very sick man, probably growing up in a very sick household, with one sister fleeing and the other caught up in the drama, probably still living in the drama inside her – can she be arrested for Obstruction of Justice/Criminal Investigation? The Coxes are utterly devastated to go through this multi-faceted trauma, as are many citizens to some degree, just to hear about it – torturing your children before killing them? It could hardly get sicker! Only the one who did it is responsible, no one else could think about anything this sick and depraved. Extremely narcissistic emotionally infantile sperm donor!
    I had to call 911 due to a fire once , I was very clear about address, repeating it and giving basic directions as it is easy to find and my name. The dispatcher wanted to hang on and ask useless questions, I had to go fight a fire, I screamed at them to hurry, they came within 5-10 min, (who can judge the time in a crisis?)they had the basics info.
    Yes, this dispatcher seems very slow/dense and so is WA DHSH for allowing a suspected murdered (not the official word, but everyone knew) to have home visitation, I will not fault the visiting monitor much, they just do as they are told (she is not part of DHSH or not a professional social worker). Some heads may roll over this.My experience working alongside Child Services is they just don’t listen to the people closer to the scene, though I know there are sometimes technicalities that the individual workers cannot move on, so children die and they get lawsuits, when do they learn?

  43. Riverpearl says:

    **Am reposting, in case it was lost in the mass of postings-thanks

    An attorney representing Susan Powell’s parents, Chuck and Judy Cox, has described the explicit image referred to in Josh Powell’s last custody hearing.

    The drawing depicted a sword inserted through a woman’s vagina and coming out the woman’s throat.
    http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2012/02/08/2385035/warrant-shows-josh-powell-took.html
    _____________________________________________

  44. Riverpearl says:

    **Am reposting-thanks

    Q-was POS expecting the adult body w/the 2nd gas can both to be destroyed?
    Q-Was POS expecting it would ‘increase’ the heat & combustion?

    Fire marshal Tom Poste said Tuesday that he believes Josh Powell already had spread gasoline throughout his house Sunday by the time his sons arrived. “The timeline was way too fast for him to spend any time dousing gasoline,” Poste said.

    **One empty, destroyed gas** can was found inside the front door.

    A **second 5-gallon gas can was found intact**.

    It was **protected by Powell’s body when he fell on it**, Poste said.

    “It had some liquid left in it but it was very close to (empty),” he said.

    Investigators have determined Powell bought the gasoline within his last 24 hours, said Troyer of the Sheriff’s Department. http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2012/02/08/2385035/warrant-shows-josh-powell-took.html

  45. Riverpearl says:

    [**reposting-thanks]
    Elizabeth Griffin-Hall, the case worker who supervised the children’s visits with Josh Powell, and who made a frantic 911 call when she was locked out of his home Sunday, has chosen not to comment to media.

    However, a voice mail statement was released by the Foster Care Resource Network, who is the woman’s employer.

    “The management and staff of Foster Care Resource Network are devastated by the deaths of Charlie and Braden Powell,” the recorded statement said. “All of us send our condolences to the boys’ family, especially the boys’ maternal grandparents.

    “Our professional case worker has been conducting court ordered supervised visits with the children in their father’s home since Nov. 2. 2011. Our case worker is horrified over what happened to these wonderful children with whom she has worked with for months and has come to love.”

    The statement went on to say that police and the Department of Social and Health Services are conducting investigations and Foster Care Resource Network did not wish to interfere with those investigations by talking with the media at this time.
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  46. Riverpearl says:

    So, we have heard/ been told that POS had supervised visitations 2x/wk @ his home. There seems to be a ‘question’ IF it was for 3hrs or 4hrs [12-NOON to 3pm or 4pm].

    Q-when did ‘case wker’ PU the boys @ the Cox house?
    Q-what is the mileage & travel time to POS home?
    Q-what is the actual time ‘case wker’ & boys exit the car?
    Q-what time do the boys ‘enter’ the home?

    ‘Case wker’ @ 12:08pm [& have seen 12:03pm] states on 1st 911 call the boys have been in the house @ least 10mins(!) JMO but it appears ‘case wker’ was @ the house BEFORE 12 NOON.

    1st 911 call is approx 6:46mins in length.

    We have NOT been given time & length of ‘case wker’ call to supervisor.

    Q-How many calls, length, time & to whom did ‘case wker’ call once she PU the boys?

    JMO there appears to be MORE time prior to the house being lit than we initial have been told.

    I really want to see a FULL timeline starting from when the boys were picked up forward. I want to see ALL the call times & lengths of the ‘case wker’, the neighbors, POS’s employer and of course, POS’s sister.

    I’ll keep asking until it is confirmed by DNA that the adult body was POS.

    POS made sure ‘case wker’ visually SAW him. He did not just send/leave 1 suicide ‘note’, he left MANY to family [siblings,cousins etc], employer, attorney & also a verbal message/voice mssg to many of them,too.

    It is not that ‘far out’ to question this as ‘being staged disappearance’. What a way to ‘start new’… there was more than ‘w/i moments’ betwn being ‘seen’ & the fire.

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    The Associated Press obtained the call logs Wednesday night under a public records request. Nearly eight minutes elapsed from the time the social worker made the first 911 call until deputies were dispatched, the AP reported, and it took another 14 minutes for the deputies to arrive.

    The 911 call lasted nearly seven minutes. The logs show deputies were sent about a minute after the call ended.

    According to the logs, the social worker called from her cellphone at 12:08 p.m. Five minutes later, the man who took her call transferred the information to a dispatcher, who alerted two deputies about 2 1/2 minutes later, at 12:16, the AP reported. They arrived at 12:30, when the house was engulfed in flames.

    Earlier Wednesday, Pierce County Sheriff’s Det. Ed Troyer raised questions about how the first of two 911 calls was handled; the second was from the social worker to the fire department. “Our concern is the etiquette and lack of manners. It doesn’t have to be that way, right?” he said in an interview with the Los Angeles Times.

    But he said the protracted call, handled by an independent call service center, did not delay dispatch of a patrol car, which arrived before the fire department did. Some of the confusion, he added, was due to the fact that the social worker at first did not know Powell’s street address.

    The independent call center that handles 911 calls for Pierce County, the Law Enforcement Support Agency, issued a statement Wednesday night. Director Tom Orr offered condolences to the family and expressed shock at “the deliberate, heinous and evil actions of Josh Powell.”

    “All of us at LESA take our citizens’ safety very seriously and we have begun a full investigation of how these calls were handled,” Orr said. “We know that seconds count and we are committed to providing the fastest response possible.”
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  47. Riverpearl says:

    She called her supervisor and 911 using her cellphone, reaching the call center in Tacoma about 10 miles away from Powell’s house just outside Puyallup, authorities said.

    Pierce County, the second largest in the state and home to about 800,000 people, has an enhanced 911 system that is designed to give police an approximate location of the cell phone caller. It wasn’t immediately clear if the call center used that feature to locate the social worker.

    At one point, she asked, “You can’t find me by GPS?”

    He responded: “No.” And then there was a pause of approximately 10 seconds.

    While she was still looking for the address, she said, “But I think I need help right away.”

    The dispatcher proceeded to question her repeatedly about who she was and her role.

    “Who is there to exercise the visitation?” he asked.

    “I am,” she said. “The visit is with Josh Powell. And he’s the husband of …”

    “And who’s supervising?” he asked.

    “I supervise.”

    “So you supervise and you’re doing the visit? You supervise yourself?” he asked.

    “I supervise myself. I’m the supervisor here.”

    “Wait a minute. If it’s a supervised visit, you can’t supervise yourself if you’re the visitor.”

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    DISPATCHER: Good morning.

    SOCIAL WORKER: Hey, I’m on a supervised visitation for a court ordered visit and something really weird is happened. The kids went into the house and the parent, the biological parent, his name is Josh Powell, will not let me in the door. What should I do?

    911 OPERATOR: What’s the address?

    SOCIAL WORKER: It’s 8119 and I think it’s 89th — I don’t know what the address is.

    911 OPERATOR: OK, that’s pretty important for me to know.

    SOCIAL WORKER: I’m sorry, just a minute. Let me get in my car and see if I can find it. Nothing like this has ever happened before in these visitations, so, I’m really shocked and I can hear one of the kids crying but he still wouldn’t let me in. OK, it is one, uh, one … Oh, just a minute I have it here. You can’t find me by GPS?

    911 OPERATOR: No.

    SOCIAL WORKER: OK, it is – I still can’t find it. But I think I need help right away. He’s on a very short leash with DSHS (Department of Social and Health Services), and CPS (Child Protective Services) has been involved. And this is the craziest thing. He looked right at me and closed the door. Are you there?

    911 OPERATOR: Yes, ma’am, I’m just waiting to know where you are.

    SOCIAL WORKER: OK. It’s 8119 189th St. Court East, Puyallup, 98375. And I’d like to pull out of the driveway because I smell gasoline and he won’t let me in.

    911 OPERATOR: You want to pull out of the driveway because you smell gasoline but he won’t let you …?

    SOCIAL WORKER: He won’t let me in.

    911 OPERATOR: He won’t let you out of the driveway?

    SOCIAL WORKER: He won’t let me in the house.

    911 OPERATOR: Whose house is it?

    SOCIAL WORKER: He’s got the kids in the house and he won’t let me in. It’s a supervised visit.

    911 OPERATOR: I understand. Whose house is it?

    SOCIAL WORKER: Josh Powell.

    911 OPERATOR: OK. You don’t live there, right?

    SOCIAL WORKER: No. No. I’m contracted to the state to provide supervised visitation.

    911 OPERATOR: I see. OK. And who is there to exercise the visitation?

    SOCIAL WORKER: I am, uh, and the visit is with Josh Powell. And he’s the husband of …

    911 OPERATOR: And who’s supervising?

    SOCIAL WORKER: I supervise.

    911 OPERATOR: So you supervise and you’re doing the visit? You supervise yourself?

    SOCIAL WORKER: I supervise myself. I’m the supervisor here.

    911 OPERATOR: Wait a minute. If it’s a supervised visit you can’t supervise yourself if you’re the visitor.

    SOCIAL WORKER: I supervise myself. I’m the supervisor for a supervised visit.

    911 OPERATOR: OK, but aren’t you the one making the visit? Or is there another parent there that you’re supervising?

    SOCIAL WORKER: I’m the one that supervises. I pick up the kids at their grandparents’.

    911 OPERATOR: Yes. And then who visits with the children?

    SOCIAL WORKER: Josh Powell.

    911 OPERATOR: OK. So, you’re supposed to be there to supervise Josh Powell’s visit with the children?

    SOCIAL WORKER: Yes, that’s correct. And he’s the husband of missing Susan Powell. This is a high-profile case.

    911 OPERATOR: How did he gain access to the children before you got there?

    SOCIAL WORKER: I was one step in back of them.

    911 OPERATOR: So they went into the house and he locked you out?

    SOCIAL WORKER: Yes. He shut the door right in my face.

    911 OPERATOR: Alright, now it’s clear. Your last name? ….

    (Exchange in which caller provides personal information.)

    911 OPERATOR: And what agency are you with?

    SOCIAL WORKER: Foster Care Resource Network. (Pause). And the kids have been in there by now approximately 10 minutes. And he knows this is a supervised visit.

    911 OPERATOR: How many children?

    SOCIAL WORKER: Two, Braden is five and Charlie is seven.

    911 OPERATOR: And the dad’s last name?

    (Long Pause)

    SOCIAL WORKER: Powell. P-O-W-E-L-L.

    911 OPERATOR: Two L’s? Two L’s at the end of Powell?

    SOCIAL WORKER: Yes.

    911 OPERATOR: His first name?

    SOCIAL WORKER: His first name is Josh.

    911 OPERATOR: Black, white, Asian, Hispanic, Native?

    SOCIAL WORKER: He’s white.

    911 OPERATOR: Date of birth?

    SOCIAL WORKER: I don’t know. He’s about 39.

    911 OPERATOR: How tall?

    SOCIAL WORKER: 5′ 10″, 150 pounds.

    911 OPERATOR: Hair color?

    SOCIAL WORKER: Brown.

    911 OPERATOR: Did you notice what he was wearing?

    SOCIAL WORKER: No, I didn’t notice what he was wearing.

    911 OPERATOR: Is he alone?

    SOCIAL WORKER: I don’t know. I couldn’t get into the house.

    911 OPERATOR: Are you in a vehicle now or on foot?

    SOCIAL WORKER: I’m in a vehicle. I’m in a Prius. A 2010 Prius. The door is locked. He hasn’t opened the door. I rang the doorbell and everything. I begged him to let me in.

    911 OPERATOR: … Please listen to my questions. What color is the Toyota Prius?

    SOCIAL WORKER: Gray. Dark gray.

    911 OPERATOR: And the license number?

    SOCIAL WORKER: I don’t know I can look …

    (Social worker provides license number.)

    911 OPERATOR: Alright, we’ll have somebody look for you there.

    SOCIAL WORKER: OK. How long will it be?

    911 OPERATOR: I don’t know, ma’am. They have to respond to emergency, life-threatening situations first. The first available deputy will respond.

    SOCIAL WORKER: This could be life-threatening. He went to court on Wednesday, and he didn’t bring his kids back and this is really – I’m afraid for their lives.

    911 OPERATOR: OK. Has he threatened the lives of the children previously?

    SOCIAL WORKER: I have no idea.

    911 OPERATOR: Alright. Well, we’ll have the first available deputy contact you.

    SOCIAL WORKER: Thank you.

    911 OPERATOR: Bye.
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