Kyron Horman Missing Case Breaking News: Remains Believed To Be Human Located Off Sauvie Island
Sauvie Island, Oregon-There are unconfirmed reports that a teenage boy fishing off of Sauvie Island located a human skull, and potentially other human body parts.
Update 1: As referenced on KOIN, a teenage fisherman believes he snagged a scalp with human hair attached, which he originally thought was horse hair. Columbia County detectives cordoned off the scene last evening and MCSO dive teams entered the water but found nothing. The possible “hair” was sent for testing.
Multnomah County Sheriff Office will not comment on the find, or confirm whether their office has facilitated the removal of same, or forwarded any items to the medical examiner for testing.
Following the disappearance of Kyron Horman, Sauvie Island has been the subject of repeated searchers for the missing Skyline second grader with no results.
It is also the former home of a man considered to be Federal fugitive following a confrontation with a Lincoln City officer with nearly fatal results. Officer Steven Dodds was able to return to duty after extensive rehabilitation.
Durham was a Sauvie Island resident for over 6 years and a volunteer fire fighter until he was removed from duty 6 months prior to the shooting.
David Durham’s dog was recovered injured following what appeared to be an accident in the suspects vehicle and is being cared for by a friend of the family. Mr. Durham has not been seen since his vehicle was recovered in the bay town of Waldport, Oregon.
Please check back to www.blinkoncrime.com for updates to this breaking story.
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Rose says:
July 28, 2012 at 12:44 pm
@Blink. Was Staton untruthful to CNN?
“never seen leaving the school”
“last seen inside the school”
“no evidence of an abduction”
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/11/oregon.missing.boy/index.html
no.
B
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This was posted on CNN June 11, eight days after Kyron disappeared. I wonder if LE has come up with a theory other than a random SO and/or a family member? If it was as random SO even tho no one saw him leave the School wouldn’t it still be considered an “abduction”? Kyron didn’t vanish into thin air (as DY hypothesized). I wonder if all the nooks and crannys inside the school have be checked by cadaver dogs.
Maybe someone inside the school, i.e. employee, etc. took him and disabled him and possibly removed him later after the SF. Kyron, missing he is…but how, why?
“The last time this child was seen was inside the school and was never seen leaving the school,” Staton told CNN. “There was nothing to indicate any kind of disruption inside the school. This is why it’s so concerning to us.”
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/11/oregon.missing.boy/index.html
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No disruption inside the school??? What…over 400 people, to quote TH “chaotic”? Just because no one saw him leave doesn’t mean he wasn’t abducted..either by a stranger or someone he knew. Oh Lord, I hope they are farther ahead with this case then they were two years ago….I don’t know…
If TH is somehow innocent in all of this, she is in an impossible situation. She is being viewed as guilty, and has been for over two years now. Anything she says on any stand in any courtroom will not be believed by Desiree, etc. unless she stands up and confesses to taking Kyron away. And as far as I know, anything she might say in a civil action can be be used in a criminal case if LE ever gets their sh*t together and charges her, so things could be taken out of context, i.e. if she admits that yes,it is true that she did not like Kyron, for instance. (some people do not like certain children-it is a fact, even if an uncomfortable one.) We would be hearing, probably on tape, in a criminal court, her admitting to disliking, or worse, Kyron. So if she is honest about that, she may be screwed.
While I am NOT saying she had any reason to dislike Kyron personally, I have met some unlikable kids in my day, so it does happen. Maybe they have some issues, or are spoiled, or whatever. But being a kid does not automatically equal being charming, sweet, etc..
Mind you, I am NOT saying Kyron was anything less than a fine child. But in Terri’s view, he may have rubbed her the wrong way; some kids have a devious streak and know how to push one’s buttons.
As I said, Desiree will not get any satisfaction from her civil case, regardless of outcome, unless TH confesses and that is not going to happen.
This statement from Stanton (way back) would be the exact reason I would have included PPS in my suit if I were Desiree!
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Staton called this case especially disturbing.
“We are talking about a school,” he said. “This is not about a child walking away in the woods or from a store, this is a school and it should be one of the safest environments other than your home.”
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/11/oregon.missing.boy/index.html
I would like one sighting of Kyron, just one, outside that scholl, in car with someone driving away.
Absent that, all you’ve got is reasonable doubt imo
Another day and no Kyron
Things go around and around
If anyone in this case told a lie that would bring Kyron home
I wish they would just fess up
Whoever it is
Myself I sometimes think the big lie in in Skyline School
That is where this little child was
When someone took him
Tiny = Tony
Would this school tell if one of their own was a SO
(snipped)
“Was Staton untruthful to CNN?”
“never seen leaving the school”
“last seen inside the school”
“no evidence of an abduction”
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/11/oregon.missing.boy/index.html
no.
B
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“no evidence of an abduction”. No wonder Kyron’s family members have not sued the school. Makes sense to me.
Abduction, alien tractor beam or other- it happened there. If that is not a crime scene, than there is no crime. Keep in mind, abduction is a term subject to statute.
B
No. (IMO, based on the track record of another other school.)
Malty says:
July 28, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Not missed until 3:30pm.
Not seen leaving the school by anyone.
Is the window a lot wider than we thought?
Huh? What?? “no evidence of an abduction”? Blink sez “no, not untruthful” So then where does SZ come in?? Or is it just that there isn’t any evidence that Kyron was abducted?
So what’s the dealy-bob with SZ then?
@Rose says:
July 28, 2012 at 12:44 pm
@Blink. Was Staton untruthful to CNN?
“never seen leaving the school”
“last seen inside the school”
“no evidence of an abduction”
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/11/oregon.missing.boy/index.html
no.
B
Sorry, playing catch-up with these posts. Well, IMO, bears do not eat clothes.
Now I wonder if TMH is just being silent because she really doesn’t know anything helpful. And anything she says could be skewed to fit whatever people think of her. Maybe she really doesNOT know anything.
Oh, right …and I have that swampland….
@T. Ruth says:
July 28, 2012 at 1:57 pm
“No evidence of an abduction?” Well then, why is it considered criminal case? I’m beginning to go back to the theory that Kyron wandered out into the woods and was taken by that same bear that was lurking around the other elementary school a few months after Kyron disappeared. Looking forward to an update here, and for heaven sake, something from LE.
Nobody is talking about the hair; nobody is talking about DAD. I thought when someone shot an LEO, the police are all over looking for the baddie. As for the hair, maybe somebody thinks a horse drowned and is just not worried much.
Wonder if anybody else has gone over to SI to go fishing?
So … if LE won’t talk about the hair, I wonder why the fisherman didn’t just keep some of it and have it tested independently? They could, you know…
Praying for someone to come forward and do the right thing for this child. Maybe Terri did not like him and she has nothing to add to the case,giving up your your daughter does not sit well with me. a Mother’s love? Huh?
I felt the same way for a long time, but did she really “give up” her daughter, or does she see that any fight she puts up will be futile? Seems everyone at the school thinks she is guilty, not to mention LE, her husband, his ex-wife and husband. She is not in the best position to get her daughter back. Her lawyers have probably advised her to wait, whether she is guilty or innocent. JMO.
Leslie Alexander says:
July 28, 2012 at 10:43 pm
one to many yours
But Leslie, I have a question (not picking on you but I ask myself this one, a lot and want your take on it). Why do you think KH agreed to the abatement? Is it because he has their child and the house and the assets? I would think he would demand the divorce move ahead. I personally would not stay married to the abductor or killer of my child, not to mention the spouse who put out the MFH on me for one minute longer than I had to. Maybe he is waiting because of some legal advice, but what could it be? JMO again.
I honestly do not think Terri has the slightest
Chance of taking Kiara away from Kaine
I don’t think Desiree could have got Kyron
Away from him
How could Terri ever prove she has the best home and resources
To have Kiara over Kaine
It looks impossible to me
“no evidence of an abduction”. No wonder Kyron’s family members have not sued the school. Makes sense to me.”
Abduction, alien tractor beam or other- it happened there. If that is not a crime scene, than there is no crime. Keep in mind, abduction is a term subject to statute.
B
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Thanks,I understand. Just frustrated as we all are. Skyline parents must be content with having the cameras installed. For me it wouldn’t cut it but then I’m a worrywart!
@erose. he has the child, house, assets, his reputation, and public goodwill.
To preserve the first 3 in litigation imo would cost $300,000-400,000
(all those depositions!), easily Terri’s $350,000 outlay
or more. just my opinion. So unless Desiree shortens his outlay by
synchronicity, his best bet is postpone
on the long shot Kyron is found in a manner implicating Terri.
As Kaine sits in the house and has all the resources
A job and nothing against him haveing Kiara
Why shake the boat
Or get that devorce
@erose says:
July 28, 2012 at 11:26 pm
“But Leslie, I have a question (not picking on you but I ask myself this one, a lot and want your take on it). Why do you think KH agreed to the abatement? Is it because he has their child and the house and the assets? I would think he would demand the divorce move ahead. I personally would not stay married to the abductor or killer of my child, not to mention the spouse who put out the MFH on me for one minute longer than I had to. Maybe he is waiting because of some legal advice, but what could it be? JMO again.”
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Really, do we know KH is not letting her have “supervised” visits? And yes, if she’s the villain he’s made her out to be you’d think he’d move ahead with the divorce.
statute: http://kidnapping.uslegal.com/state-kidnapping-abduction-laws/oregon-kidnappingabducting-laws/
seems to me you gotta know who “a person” is to have an abduction.
Sean, for example, knew who “a person(s)” was. LE does not in Kyron’s case.
I love “alien tractor beam.” But, It is a crime scene.
The school Secretary who should have had name tags, a sign in sheet operation, and called the home nos. when he missed attendance is consulting this year per principal to child class placements and staffing. If this isn’t a F’d up crime scene, and poorly led school, I don’t know what is.
BTW, my kid was in a middle years IB public. The middle year requirements bear no resemblance to high school IB and are not rigorous. In fact now parents here after 10 years experience are clamoring to opt their kids out. and this is a top flight middle. Imo Skyline’s external PPS Supervision is a CYA shell game.
The car show
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/07/kyron_hormans_father_kaine_hor_2.html#comments
Also the comments if you scroll down
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/07/kyron_hormans_father_kaine_hor_2.html#comments
worth a review.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/06/kyron_horman_task_force_to_dis.html?mobRedir=false
the SOs checked out were those “in the area of the school”
erose says:
July 28, 2012 at 11:26 pm
But Leslie, I have a question (not picking on you but I ask myself this one, a lot and want your take on it). Why do you think KH agreed to the abatement? Is it because he has their child and the house and the assets? I would think he would demand the divorce move ahead. I personally would not stay married to the abductor or killer of my child, not to mention the spouse who put out the MFH on me for one minute longer than I had to. Maybe he is waiting because of some legal advice, but what could it be? JMO again.
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There are probably other answers, but I think he stayed married because he wanted the most court time possible so they could ask as many questions as possible of as many people as possible. Even if she agreed to full custody of Kiara to Kaine, she can always go back and ask for changes to RO, to custody, and/or to visitation at any point after the divorce, so the big points to go to court for are the actual divorce and support/property. If she agreed to anything they came up with for a property settlement, there would be nothing to go to court for if the divorce was a done deal already. I’m sure she’s going to want Kaine to pay her divorce attorney fees at least.
Just my thoughts about why.
Seriously, what makes this a criminal case, if there is no “evidence of an abduction”?
What did LE *discover* when they changed this case to a criminal one?
The alleged hate email? Is that all they have? Combined with an alleged MFH, did they then just decide, well it must be the step mom? IMO, if they truly had damning evidence of the MFH, Terri would be in jail. Also if the hate email in any way discussed the disappearance of her stepson, I believe she would be in jail as well. My gut feeling is that the alleged hate email was just the venting of a tired mother and stepmom. I would assume that Houze knows what that email says and one of his few comments is “this is a witch hunt”. So what more do they have?
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@RedRose
I was sorta’ kidding about the bear and of course I know that a bear would not eat the clothes of its prey. However, bears travel many, many miles to hunt, waaaaaay outside of any of the areas that may have been searched for Kyron. If there were cubs involved, a bear would in fact take it’s prey back to it’s den for its babes. One reason I think it’s probably not the case of a bear attack is because I don’t believe there were any canine hits around the woods there, and there would most probably still be some sort of blood trail, although I don’t know of the efficiency of the dogs when it’s been raining and it’s 7 or 8 hours later. There are also several people in this case who say Kyron wouldn’t wander, so he probably didn’t. But, remember the dingo.
@erose
Did Kaine have any other choice? I don’t really know how it works, but the judge granted Terri the abatement, so does Kaine have any say in that? Can he contest the abatement ruling?
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/judge_delays_terri_and_kaine_h.html
“Meisenheimer found there’s “substantial overlap of evidence” between the divorce case and the criminal inquiry and parallel proceedings could create a discovery nightmare. But he said he also had to balance Terri Horman’s constitutional rights with Kaine Horman’s right to a prompt resolution of custody, parenting, property and financial matters. “
I agree, and if he is letting her see their child, which I think is possible and have read the rumors, what does all of that say about what is really going on here?
lyla says:
July 29, 2012 at 12:41 am
snip>
Really, do we know KH is not letting her have “supervised” visits?
@TRuth, IDK if he has a choice, but at times it seems he does.
Jan 2011 where both sides agree to the abatement.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/113144919.html
Hasn’t Kaine moved on
His life must be full
A job and child ,the foundation, working out
And those car shows
He is pretty active
Then there is the hope of getting Kyron
And updating Kyron’s room
Yesterday I saw Kaine on TV and he said something about wanting to find the truth
Or wanting the truth
For the first time he touched me
Malty says:
July 29, 2012 at 12:15 am
I honestly do not think Terri has the slightest
Chance of taking Kiara away from Kaine
I don’t think Desiree could have got Kyron
Away from him
How could Terri ever prove she has the best home and resources
To have Kiara over Kaine
It looks impossible to me
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No, KH seems to have all the cards in his favor. Always has. Never thinks of TMH? Right.
I keep reading all of the statements made here and feel as though I am on a Merry-Go-Round. TH – KH, is this about money, property, or Kyron??? Bear attack? Why not wolves? I have no proof, only a gut feeling that the truth lies within Skyline School and someone who is connected to it. I asked before, does anyone know if all teachers, administrative personnel, aides, janitorial, been cleared, including their families?
putting a fence around a school property is easy when chain link is OK with the pta tastewise. I’ve watched one go up. They just sink metal posts, unwind a roll of the link stuff around it & affix. public schools have an inhouse
grounds work crew who does stuff like this, so it doesn’t cost much. The principal just has to write a work request to the right Dept. why didn’t Keefer do that for his students? The one year Admin detailed to Skyline may not have been used to writing those requisitions and grounds upkeep, but Keefer should’ve made the place safe for kindergartners wandering at recess. Then I remember Keefer getting his own subcontractor to paint for lead abatement. Who knows? Bet the community would’ve donated fencing 2 years ago. However, if you cure a negligent defect right after an injury, it does give some ammo to a plaintiff in a tort suit. But PPS is past the danger of a tort suit for negligence now and could fence.
I do hope Terri is able to visit Kitty. She deserve it if she has been
cleared as a suspect.It seems like everyone one is playing that staring game to see who blinks (no pun intended)first.Except Desiree.
It just seems tragic that an innocent Mother is losing out on being with her child. I would want my spendy lawyer to get that the hell fixed.I do feel there is so much more going on in this case then any of us know.Someone is holding on to a big dark secret.It seems like dear kyron went poof down a rabbit hole.Like I said Kyron needs a HERO.
*-one! I get so worked up when I think about Kyron. Everyday!
my poor husband listen to me and hopes I don’t start the tears.When we are out and about i am looking for him and always asking don’t you think he looks like kyron? i have grandsons and we lost the little one this summer at a water park for 5 minutes and the place was packed
I thought I was going to vomit so I can’t imagine Desiree and Kaines
pain.Always in my prayers those two,and the rest of their families.
@T.Ruth
“Seriously, what makes this a criminal case, if there is no “evidence of an abduction”?”
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https://www.internationalrewardscentre.com/component/content/article/398-news-archive/674-police-change-focus-of-kyron-horman-case-to-criminal-investigation.html
This is a cache from the one of the psychic boards, it is dated June 29, 2010. Now, I know this is from a psychic board, but, has anyone looked into this comment in regard to DAD? I mean, isn’t it weird that a fire fighter was being discussed waaaaaaay prior to the actual Durham/Dodds episode?
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:HJnZeMUuNkgJ:missingpersons.phpbb3now.com/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D2%26t%3D69%26start%3D50%26st%3D0%26sk%3Dt%26sd%3Da%26sid%3D7b9da9488a652a0ad4ab3b2cd92cb0ea%26view%3Dprint+&cd=14&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
Author: laverda [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:40 am ]
Post subject: Re: Kyron horman please use this thred for kyron
I know how maybe the volunteer fire fighter links in. The man that manages the pumphouses on Sauvies is a volunteer fire fighter, he opened up the pump houses on saturday i think
T. Ruth says:
July 29, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Did Kaine have any other choice? I don’t really know how it works, but the judge granted Terri the abatement, so does Kaine have any say in that? Can he contest the abatement ruling?
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erose says:
July 29, 2012 at 2:54 pm
@TRuth, IDK if he has a choice, but at times it seems he does.
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The way I understand it, Multnomah County has the rule that any case can be abated for good cause by motion of Counsel or the Court. Once the judge approves abatement, the case remains that way until the time period ends or the judge approves a request from Counsel to do so (based on new information). No motions are to be brought during the abatement, but discovery can take place IF both parties agree (highly unlikely).
So it seems to me that Kaine has no choice about the abatement at this point unless new information comes up that might change the judge’s thinking, or both parties agree to drop it and move on and the court approves. What will be interesting is to see if the judge has the power and/or the inclination to extend it beyond the 2 year limit.
Predicting a predator’s next move: Tracking Oregon’s high-risk sex offenders
Published: Saturday, July 28, 2012, 3:00 PM Updated: Saturday, July 28, 2012, 10:24 PM
By Maxine Bernstein, The Oregonian
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/07/predicting_a_predators_next_mo.html
FYI
Another one missing in Portland.
http://www.koinlocal6.com/news/local/story/6-year-old-missing-from-NE-Portland-yard/hoa0IV_-ZkCUIY_hjjwASg.cspx
Just heard on kpam 860 a 6 year old has been missing since 8:30 am last seen playing in his front yard. Portland oregon
They found him.He boarded at school bus that was in the area.WTH?
He was found and ok, thank God!!
http://www.koinlocal6.com/news/local/story/6-year-old-missing-from-NE-Portland-yard/hoa0IV_-ZkCUIY_hjjwASg.cspx
@Malty says:
July 29, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Yesterday I saw Kaine on TV and he said something about wanting to find the truth
Or wanting the truth
For the first time he touched me
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Yes, the truth.
My hubby and I went to Astoria yesterday morning. It was a gorgeous day. We were on St. Helens highway and over to the right was Sauvie Island and it was beautiful. We passed NW Cornelius Pass Road, Germantown, Logie Trial, Rocky Point, Newberry Rd. There was a small picture of Kyron on a post along the way. The first thing that came to mind was June 4 and subsequent days of searching by MCSO for Kyron. I was surprised by the magnitude of the areas searched. There’s no way to cover every nook and cranny. With a heavy heart I felt overwhelming appreciation for the efforts that were put forth to find him all to no avail. Is it so much to ask for the truth? The smallest amount of information could help solve the case.
@MBS, According to the wording of this article, both sides agreed. Wondering why he was so motivated.
Presiding Judge Keith Meisenheimer tells us both Kaine and Terry have agreed to continue the abatement for another three months.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/113144919.html