Casey Anthony Bankruptcy Bust: Trustee Wants To Auction Her Rights, Has Buyers
Orlando- Fl, In a fitting twist to the latest saga that is Casey Anthony since she was acquitted in 2010 of the murder of her 34 month old daughter Caylee, Miss Anthony is not getting off the hook for her financial obligations as easily.
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Anthony was seen for the first time publicly on March 4, 2013 at the meeting of the creditors, referred to as a 341 meeting- she is required to attend.
Since that time the attorney for Zenaida Gonzalez, John Morgan, has filed a motion to evaluate Anthony’s estate and financial affairs after hearing that she received financial support for living expenses from her attorneys ( gee, wonder if that is from any she is claiming as creditors in the petition- that would be a bar no no.) and also from undisclosed “friends.”
Not to be outdone, last week the trustee HIMSELF filed a motion to auction and sell the “asset of the estate”:
- Among the assets of the Estate are the exclusive worldwide rights in perpetuity to the commercialization of Anthony’s life story including her version of the facts, her thoughts and impressions of whatever nature, in so far as these pertain to her childhood, the disappearance and death of her daughter, Caylee Anthony, her subsequent arrest, incarceration, trial, acquittal and withdrawal from society, including the rights to motion pictures, documentaries, live stage performances and any other form of performance art, any transmission of video and /or audio content, by any means of technology, whether presently existing or hereafter developed, including, withoutlimitation, standard free over-the-air television, non-standard television distribution including, without limitation, basic, tier and/or premium cable distribution; direct broadcast satellite television, subscription television; multi-point distribution systems, multiple multi-point distribution systems, local multi-point distribution systems, satellite master antenna television systems, open video system, television receive-only, closed circuit television, and radio; online including, without limitation, Internet, world-wide- web, all forms of social media, including Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, and Twitter now known or hereinafter developed; cable modem and all other forms of online distribution now known and hereinafter developed; internet protocol television, mobile/wireless, all portable devices including tablets and /or mobile phones; all interactive forms of distribution now known or hereinafter developed; airline, theater, restaurant and hotel/motel distribution, narrow and broadband services, video dial tone, paper-per-view, high-definition format, video-on-demand, and subscription video-on- demand; literary rights including publication(s) in print and /or electronic means, including but not limited to electronic books, audio books, online magazines, and internet articles; and merchandise tie-ins (the “Property”).
Among the critical thinking Orlando environs: James M. Schober.
- The Trustee has received a written offer from James M. Schober in the amount of $10,000 for the Property. Mr. Schober’s stated intention is to acquire the Property in order to prevent Ms. Anthony or others from publishing or profiting from her story in the future, and therefore his offer is not subject to any contingency based upon the cooperation or promise of cooperation from Ms. Anthony.
- Due to the intense public interest in the Debtor and the Property, the Trustee believes that there will be interest from others in purchasing the Property.
Could the cash cow finally be going out to pasture?
Where legal, taking bets on how quickly the bankruptcy gets withdrawn or converted to a Chapter 13.
Good citizens of Florida, leave your checkbooks in your home office and guard your target cards until this is all over.
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I have quite mixed feelings about this.
#1 – Casey Anthony should not get rich from killing her daughter.
On the other hand, a deal which would prevent CA from telling her story tramples all over free speech.
In this case, the general consensus is that CA is guilty. But, what if this were an innocent person driven into bankruptcy by a legal defense, should that person be forced to give up his “life story” and the right to defend his name in public?
I agree with you philosophically GD. In my effort to establish arm’s reach here- I admit I am going to fall short.
There is no doubt in my mind that Casey Anthony is responsible for the death of her daughter and had Caylee’s paternity ever been established I can promise you that she would not even hold this as an asset.
For me this is a simple trustee matter in a bankruptcy that has a woman that has not worked since 2005, has incurred over $700K worth of debt for the privilige to not be spending the rest of her life in jail and a great many of those creditors announced they were working pro bono in the first place.
This is a fleecing of fleecers and there are priority debts on there are restitution fees (for crimes she was convicted of) and tax bills that cannot be discharged if she has assets to offset them. The “in kind” support for living expenses and whatever other handouts she claims could easily be shown to be unclaimed income because there are limits to such gifts, and there are limits as to who and what charitable organizations “gift” them.
Setting aside the fact for a moment has she got “here”- the $250k plus she received that baez had to claim in court to declare her indigent after she ran out of funds had to be accepted via a trust account- which means it is subject to those taxes not being paid by someone who likely signed an agreement indemnifying that provider from the tax burden and advising them they needed to provision the tax due. So there’s that.
The other issue is liquidating assets pending a civil suit. To my knowledge, there would be nothing keeping her from telling her story- it would just be a question of whether or not she could ever be compensated for it in any way.
Should be very interesting if they don’t withdraw her petition or upgrade it to Chapter 13 based on whatever sort of in-kind expense cash she has rolling in coupled with the estate sale. Regardless, she is not going to just wash this down the drain with John Morgan on her azz. He will be granted his motion should it continue. Quick update as the docket was updated today- their is a preliminary hearing for summary judgement by the trustee scheduled for April 9
B
I think this whole move is to prevent the liability case of Gonzales from having an opportunity to collect anything presently and in the future. Chapter 13 would allow some legal changes, but would not exempt future liability of a judgement in Gonzales defamation case.
Absolutely correct on the Chapter 13 but under the law if she has over a certain level of assets/income, she cannot claim chapter 7. I have no idea if that is the type of offers from a sale of her rights or whatever other income she has that she will be forced to disclose, but the way I see it, she really only has the choice of withdrawing and trying to work something out with creditors, or accepting the judgements and then whatever monies she ever makes, will be subject to those liens judgements.
The other issue is I question the totals and amounts of the creditors that have amounts listed- Baez is and was required to outline every payment out of her trust account and every invoice submitted against it. Morgan will subpoena those and will get them since he is a creditor.
And don’t forget the pictures rights she signed over to Jose Baez- what is that worth and was it done in anticipation of the bktcy? Is she able to retrieve those later?
She would not be the first person in the world to inflate the creditor amount to insure she is judgement proof regardless of what she might pull in in the future.
B
Thanks for the update Blink-
Great points GeorgiaDad- you gave me much to ponder- her are my thoughts FWTW
GeorgiaDad says:
March 19, 2013 at 8:37 am
“I have quite mixed feelings about this.
#1 – Casey Anthony should not get rich from killing her daughter.”
CA already got rich from killing her daughter not once not twice but over and over-
JFTR
CA never had any money of her own from the time Caylee was 6 month old
Her trying to claim bankruptcy is like a hobo trying to claim bankruptcy
“rich” to CA would actually be having two dollars of her own to rub together-
she stole and borrowed and bamboozled money from her parents and from her own baby’s piggy bank she forged checks from her parents and grandparents’ checking account
as for profiting off her babys killing-
Shes has been doing it from day one
She stole Amys check book after Caylees death and she went on shopping sprees and bought her bella vita tattoo-
She sold pics of her victim for a pay out bigger than most make in a year of back breaking work
You wrote:
“On the other hand, a deal which would prevent CA from telling her story tramples all over free speech.”
CA has already told her story for profit she exercised those free speech rights whenever she appeared on tv and spouted off-
She has went on FB etc and spouted off noone is preventing her from telling her story- they never were-
her parents and brother and friends begged her to tell them what happened-
The police begged her to tell them her story- was it an accident- was it a drowning did something bad happen are you trying to protect someone???
The bounty hunter and co begged her to tell them her story
Texas E. Search and many other well meaning search and rescuers begged her to tell them her story
For 31 days and 3 years she had every opportunity to exercise her free speech and tell her story- not for profit but to bring her baby home
Zenaida Gonzalez and co begged her to exercise her free speech
she chose to remain silent or to lie-
So IMO CA can choke on her 6th amendment rights now- that she seems desparate to tell “her side” inorder only to profit monetarily
Let her fade into darkness- just like she forced her innocent little 2 year old to choke from lack of air in that dark trunk.
You wrote:
In this case, the general consensus is that CA is guilty.
No sadly she was not found “guilty” but she will be NEVER innocent of killing little caylee
You wrote:
But, what if this were an innocent person driven into bankruptcy by a legal defense,
First CA was never driven into bankruptcy by her defense she never had any money until she killed caylee
She was indigent yet she had a dream team to defend her- experts included all “pro bono” or paid thru her previous payouts of blood money so this concern does not pertain to CA case-
You wrote:
should that person be forced to give up his “life story” and the right to defend his name in public?
I see your point it is well taken but again this is not the case with CA she had many many people defending her name – and she told her “life story” thru the trial- thru her own words, in letters etc and thru others thru the trial and thru the aftermath and she has profited from all of it-
Why should she be able to claim bankruptcy and then go on to greedily make money hand over fist afterwards while everyone she owes gets nothing?
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Thats the way i look at GD- again you made great points in truth I might agree with you if it wasnt CA we were talking about… I admit to having a bias-
Im just so sick of people playing the justice system and twisting it to where it seems to work only for the bad guys and against the good guys
We have to get to the point that everyone is able to have the best representation- their own dream team- otherwise how can it be just and fair?
AJMO
Peace
I think perhaps the trustee is jumping to conclusions as to just how many people are actually interested in hearing what the murdering monster has to say. Most people seem to grasp that if any of the nonsense that Baez babbled about at trial had had a ring of truth to it, (‘accidental drowning, George molestation, George cover up, etc) then he and his murdering client would have told the police all of this on day 1. Instead of cooperating, she chose to sit in prison for 3 years in stony silence, refusing to cooperate. An innocent person doesn’t do that…EVER. And an attorney certainly doesn’t allow his innocent client to sit in jail for 3 years if he has information that can free her and put the blame on someone else. (and speaking of that, we’re all more than aware of the fact Bozo spent those 3 years openly blaming anyone and everyone he could about being Caylee’s ‘real’ killer…Jesse, Amy, Kronk…why do that if Caylee ‘accidentally drowned’?)
Unless there are offers for the Murderer’s story that we don’t know about, (which means (surprise, surprise) that the Murderer and her attorneys lied at her bankruptcy hearing about no offers being out there for her) I can’t imagine too many people are going to be offering her the big bucks to spew her lies. And that is exactly what she would be spewing…lies, lies and way more lies! Casey Anthony is toxic and book publishers/movie studios/etc. are well aware of that and the power of the boycotters who haven’t let up since the day 12 village idiots set her free to kill again. (and she will kill again!)
Agreed, but even if it is $10K, she loses the right to make the big bucks and that is super ok with me
B
Actually – if this tactic would mean that neither Casey nor her grifter parents could make a living in perpetuity of the dear 34-month old child that Casey murdered – I’m all for it! But I do hope that Zenaida, Tim Miller, Roy Kronk – and heck – even Leonard Padilla get reimbursed for their losses here – and of course, the IRS gets paid (they always do!).
What I still have never understood was how Baez got away with taking the $200k from ABC and NOT putting aside the money to pay the IRS taxes. You would have thought that that would have been some bar no-no as well. If nothing else, it shows either gross incompetence, or willful neglect and avoidance of the income tax laws.
All I want is for the entire Anthony family and the legal people who support them to lose their teflon-coats. NOBODY can have this type of luck 100% of the time.
I want to assure you of something as someone had to do for me a few years back. Be assured that the karmic response to what happened to that beautiful baby girl and those who appear to have profited or been shielded from their “just dues” in some way- will prevail.
B
Blink – do you know if the IRS ever investigated that second foundation started by Cindy and George to which Dr. Phil made the donation?? It was supposed to be a hefty six-figure amount. I heard that the foundation was kaput within the year of its sets-up. But what happened to the Dr. Phil money?? Was the money distributed to the principals?? If so, isn’t that taxable income?
I have no doubt that if the daughter is a tax dead-beat then the parents are the same as well.
Sorry, Blink but these people just gall me …and I don’t think that I will ever get over my anger at how they got away with murder and perjury …and now they’re trying to continue to cash in.
Hope that POA sitch is addressed. She’s made a living out of mooching off of others. They need to stick the tail on this donkey.
How would this work if she goes to another country and tells her story? I truly in my heart hope this woman gets back 10 fold of what she has given yet I have some larger issue in my mind in respect to what my great country has been built upon. She was found innocent…don’t throw tomatoes at me…how would this effect truly innocent people. This is just a layman’s thought. Her story is intellectual property of sorts, if you were found not guilty can you be forced by anyone to sell that. Again I think she is despicable and guilty and should burn in he…for what she did. I just do not know what precedence this would have on truly innocent people.
A fair point Ode.
B
I agree B. This woman has played the world over the death of her daughter which includes the fact that no one knows the father of the child except her. That is a maybe, because I believe Cindy has known all along, but plays the game to protect the family from the paternal rights in order to collect all of any monies offered.
I am sorry that the court was so bamboozled by Chaney Mason and Baez regarding the murder case. I would think that the the bankruptcy court would require an accounting of all monies earned since 2005 and their source. Anything that was declared to be pro bono could not be claimed as to its value towards the total debt as it would be a gift.
I.Love.It. i saw a comment somewhere that said Caylee, we are keeping an eye on your monster of a mom once. fitting.
Just a thought..It is quite believable that CA and her mother don’t know who the father is because IMO they appear to be the gold digging type. I believe CA would have gotten her claws into a rich one at a party or bar etc. and slept with him to get pregnant on purpose.
No, she didn’t want a child but would have figured with a rich baby daddy she could live the good life and just leave the kid with a nanny-I’m sorry this is such a poor choice of words but I believe that is truly what she intended.
I don’t know what happened to the baby daddy but if he wasn’t rich then I feel confident in saying that it was an accidental pregnancy or he really is deceased because if he was alive and wealthy she would sing his name from the highest mountain.
Whatever the case maybe, it was all about the money even then IMO.
PS. always wondered how no one ever came forward..in my family the baby pictures of our young one and those of her grandmother are almost identical. I would think that someone looked at Caylee and was reminded of a family member..or someone had a friend that resembled Caylee..
sorry..PSS to my post..I believe that CA planned to get out of the house based on having a rich baby daddy and that she would have wanted big bucks in child support/ inheritance if the guy didn’t want a relationship…All the years of listening to her mom and not having money..I have to believe that she would have went after Caylee’s father for money if at all possible..
So what if its another scamthony way to defraud the public an avoid paying her dues.
Thats why she scurried her ass into public veiw money.
Or the avoidance of paying any of those silly bills.
Why should she have to pay for the search of some little girl.
Thats like there job isnt it.
In stead they accuse me of being a bad parent an persecute m me for politacl gain.
Put me in jail an take my whole entire life away.
An now they want me to pay?
So declares bankrupsy blah blah she s like that charecte ?
Out of some old film noir Im duchess Du Blain an live on the charitties of kind men.
Whils batting her eyelids an fanning herself.
A Streetcar named Desire?
Anyway thinks she can simply declare bankruptsy an alll this unppleasantness will go away.
Now the scamthony part is this early mention of some irrate creditor or debtor wants to buy up the right for ten grand to stop an desist trunkmom from ever makeing any profits from her story .stories /multiple fictinal words none .
Even if you sat ten thousand kc in a room with ten thousand type writter for ten million years.
Never even by sheer chance of random keys being typed would a truth ever be written on purpose or error or random chance.
So this random buyer is realy just a front for another person .
Whom happens to be a freind of a freind of another person.
Whom is the real buyer of the life story an death story in perttuity as none other than sindy scamthony.
The self same secret benifactor whom is paying her bills now.
As she has done her entire life.
An she did promise swamphag that once she was free.
She would never have to work again.
An kc is holding her to that an as sidy said.
You willnever beat us anthonys .
An so far she has proven herself to be correct an factuall on that statement.
Wich is a rareity in its self comeing from that womans mouth.
Blink: I don’t remember if it was before or during the trial but if I remember correctly you made a comment about Caylee’s mama doll knowing alot of secrets or if she could talk, she would have alot to tell. At that time, I was thinking that you said there’s alot more to the case that you couldn’t share at the time but that when the time was right you would. Do you still intend on doing so or did you decide against it?
Eventually- I believe I will. The C word losing her rights to her story might nudge me.
Thanks for remembering Mama.
B
What is C-word doing for income …most normal people have to work…this girl looks like she has a nice hair style and dressed pretty nice for someone without a job and money. Would love to know what she does in her free time and when she isnt making “public appearances”. She looks pretty well kept. I would think someone that has been through what all she has been through would be broke and looking a little spent. Not fresh as she does in this picture…that isnt a compliment…just stating she does not look like she is doing without much. Blink I really hope you do reveal what else you know eventually and when the timing is right…the world needs to know. I am still tossed over the fact she got off if she was the one that killed that baby….how did she get off?
I don’t think ANYONE should earn a dime on selling this story. Not C, movie makers, writers, TV, lawyers.
The case is very closed and the whole thing was a disgrace. Let the case die and please don’t let anyone get rich off of it.
AVS – @11:27
THe problem with your hope to “Let the case die and please don’t let anyone get rich off of it” is that Casey, Cindy and George need the case to remain alive so that they can get money.
If we – the people who followed this case, cried our eyes out for that sweet little Caylee and were enfuriated by what the 12 village idiots did – don’t remain vigilant with the thieving magpie Anthony family, they will continue to make their living and livelihood off of Caylee. Did we every find out how much money Dr. Phil paid that foundation – which BTW has been folded. It was only in existence for 10 months So essentially the money went to Cindy & George.
I never heard of a 34-month old child who was put in the position of being the sole financial support of her family. But I guess there’s a first time for everything.
I just want to make sure that whoever “buys” this isn’t a front for Casey/Cindy/George or any of their minions.
ANd Blink – I do so hope that you write a book about this – especially Caylee’s Mama doll. I always thought that the fact that Mama was always without clothes was Caylee’s spunky way of spilling the beans to Cindy about Casey’s activities.
Ecossie possie, my southern roots hurt from that mangling of the main character of “Streetcar”. It’s Blanche Dubois. “I have always depended upon the kindness of strangers.”
I gotta say, as someone who has been through two rounds of unemployment due to company layoffs and has done all types of (legal!)jobs like cleaning urinals to make my rentnothing bugs me more than people who are perfectly capable of working yet choose to mooch off others. Grifters like her just UGHH! I know that a narcissistic sociopathic parasite like CA can’t possibly be expected to work an honest day in her life with the common folk, but my God. You’re telling me she can’t even get a job at a strip club? (But she won a contest – that’s her talent!) I’ve also worked in chapter 7 bankruptcy law and I’ve seen all kinds of people come through and file, so I know this isn’t legally possible, but I do wish that the judge in this case would make her get a job that includes filling out a W-2 form, and possibly the garnishment of her wages to pay off these debts. (But then again we know that honestly was never in the Anthony family’s wheelhouse or taught as a value, ever.)
My question is, in reading this – is it reasonable to think that the creditors themselves could put in a claim for the rights akin to the value of their debts? i.e. Could Jose Baez put in a “bid” for the rights?
I am to read this correctly – Baez was paid by the state of Florida to represent her once she claimed indigency, correct? so if he was representing her as a state-appointed attorney at that point, where does this debt owed to him come from?
Is Baez still representing her in the Gonzalez case, despite her owing him these massive debts? I don’t know a single private attorney that would take on additional cases for a client while the legal fees owed to him for past cases are going unpaid and/or being part of a bankruptcy filing. Isn’t that a huge conflict of interest that a bankruptcy judge would see through immediately?
Unless of course he planned on collecting those past-due amounts by having all rights to her image signed over to him…
Lastly, I for one cannot believe that Baez has not been disbarred yet, honestly. I hear echoes of F. Lee Bailey whenever he is written about.
No. Baez was never paid once she was declared indigent. He was a private attorney, not a public defender.
B
I am always scratching my head and wondering where the hell CA got the name Zenaida Gonzalez and why she didn’t just use a more common name like Rosa Gonzalez? Maria Gonzalez?
Do you have any idea Blink how she came up with this name or why she would use this name. Zenaida seems like a very uncommon name, or less uncommon than most.
Saving that conversation for another day
B
Scout,
Weren’t the neighbors at the end of Cword’s street a combination of those two names?
She walked by their houses everyday and she may have known them…although the womba of CA didn’t approve of such.
Hope someone brings this up again. I’m in the mood to get mucky in that sociopathic train of thought–if you can call it that.
Scroll way down to a Zillow photo on righthand side–passing many inaccuracies in the article–to see the addresses of the combo of names CA chose.
http://www.squidoo.com/casey-anthonys-zenaida-gonzalez-lived-on-hopespring-drive
There’s the other aspect of her stealing the visit card from Sawgrass Apts…Just remembering that
@ Word Girl says:
March 25, 2013 at 12:24 am
I do believe you’re correct. Look @ names on properties 4709 & 4701. Caylee was thrown away in the swamp behind these homes.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/Caylee_hopespring47014709.jpg
I was not here for the Cword case but wasn’t the name on an apartment application she spied where she “said” (not) she last saw sweet baby Cayle with the babysitter.
@ Ode says:
March 25, 2013 at 8:03 am
Affirmative on that, Ode. That name seemed to be everywhere in Cword’s world.
Ragdoll says:
March 25, 2013 at 4:43 am
@ Word Girl says:
March 25, 2013 at 12:24 am
I do believe you’re correct. Look @ names on properties 4709 & 4701. Caylee was thrown away in the swamp behind these homes.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/Caylee_hopespring47014709.jpg
*****
I had never heard that, as I said before I was not here then, not until Morgan Harrington…Please God, Justice for Morgan. How in the he… did no one put that together. OMG Cayle was with Zenida Gonzales. Kronk would have known those names. He figured it out. It amazes me how much is discussed at places like Blinks and Scared Monkeys. How much do I not know about Cayle. I would love to read a book someday. I will wait for Blink’s assesment first.
Hi, Ode. Yes, we knew where Caylee was, but all the scamanthony defense was trying hard to obscure it. That is why, I think, the site wasn’t drained. As you use whitepages/neighbors or some other site, you can get a lot of information on residents–which then you can google and google some more! (even from the floor! inside joke, not a schizoid clang)
So, yes, in many cases we may know the perpetrator. The proof is the dickens.
How much more elemental than “that’s where we buried our pets” could it be?
This act was committed by a very immature and selfish person–well, a shell of a person.
That ultimate insult to the heinous crime: Mama doll not with her.
@Ode: WOW. I thought I knew every detail of the CA case just from this blog but this was new to me. She was distinctly sending a clue as to where she buried her!!! How was this not brought up at trial?
I still don’t understand the big deal over Kronk. Maybe I couldn’t read between the lines about his involvement in the case, but is it being insinuated that he knew where to look beforehand? Or just that he knew was there months earlier but waited to “find” her? I still get so lost in all of the little details and complexities of the CA case.
Is it my understanding that perhaps Kronk, being a meter reader knew the names of people in that area, and perhaps put two and two together..maybe really went looking more on a “hunch” of sort?
tiberious, yes of course a meter reader would know the names. Did he just not want to say “hey guys I put 2 and 2 together”? Was it actually just that simply?
Sorry simple not simply
ode, I don’t know of any reason that he wouldn’t want to say “hey guys I put 2 and 2 together”..unless it had something to do with collecting the reward money maybe?.. I’m at a lose as to what would prevent someone from helping to discover the location of a missing child.
I honestly just don’t know of any reason why he wouldn’t want to offer this theory up …at least no good/honest reason. Any ideas people? I’m very curious as to why things with Kronk went down the way they did.
You know I will always come back and talk about the angel.
I saw a post talking about the paternity of Caylee, How do we KNOW that the father was not giving C word money? I mean really. Could it have been the Marine that her brother cheated with his wife? Just to get back at her? They had a reason to hide it but he was the one Casey told, she had something she had to tell him? she never got there. He is stationed in California and he never had to testify and he was a very important piece of the puzzle and it was all just brushed away, seriously they didnt HAVE to tell anyone who the father was.
OH and I am to curious as to when Blink will be able to tell her story? I was wondering when that would be released? what has to happen first?
The State paid Baez after she claimed she was indigent as he was her paid attorney according to them < it is a cour loop hole that more than not people know about. If a person hires an attorney and loses their source of income, they can keep their same lawyer so it stays "fair" or so they say. The state is then forced to pay his fees.
simple.
Baez was not paid by the state, he was not court appointed but private. During his tenor, a law was passed that would not allow a private atty to take off once the well runs dry, but he did not. The state paid for it’s rate for expenses for trial et al, and of non pro-bono attorneys. Baez is listed as a $500K creditor on her bktcy. Although he gave her $3400 cash last year as a gift.
B
Blink,
I have never heard such a thing. wow he sure wasnt lucky. I dont understand how he didnt get paid. I mean it serves him right but I guess I have seen Attorneys get hired and paid a little then got the state to pick it up. What about all the others that helped? Is this why they dropped like flys?
Where was Mama doll?
She actually had 2 (allegedly) this one was found in her carseat.
B
Blink, I thought we agreed that we would never discuss the C word again? I havent read this article and Im not going to read it. Im just wondering why you are wasting space posting anything about that monster? We have so many other people and situations to talk about that matter. Dont we?
Read the article, it is at the very least a silver lining.
NaNa- heart u, but I will have the last word on that person, may be years from now, but you have my word, I will have more to say on the CWord when I am sure it does not have the side effect of benefitting her in any way.
B
friendLY, my good sporty sport….
Do you think the picture could be changed?
It would be a blessing to come to your home page and see precious Caylee’s face. I understand it compliments the story of how she continues to live off of others, and dismisses her responsibility to be a decent human being. It is what it is….a grifter baby killer.
The only place that face belongs is on Satan’s most wanted posters.
Just a suggestion is all. Trenta heart you
No way will I post a picture of Caylee in relation to some new BS of this woman. I think it is fitting to see her look like she just left a thrift store, lol.
B
Well….when you put it that way!
Blink, this is OT but I was just wondering since it’s been a month since any new postings – what’s going on with the Jody Arias trial? Will you have an update on it soon?
Jody Arias has her own feed.
Casey Anthony organized child trafficking victim, 1998 Albert Lea I can confirm.
Heh?
B
to clarify- a kid (male) gave me a piece of paper that said Casey Anthony. I had known a few people named Casey and a few people named Anthony back in the day so I asked if it was a boy or girl, he said girl, I asked what she looked like and he described her and later I was told she made it home ok. I can’t remember which location for certain – several of them looked the same. Oops, sorry for confusion Blink.
@Ragdoll. Had no interest in reading more on Anthony trial, but Baez book got up in my face free at the library. I planned to ask Blink if worth sampling, but by page 35 I was thoroughly hooked & finished quickly. Fine writing, no doubt by the co-writer.
I see by the threads Blink and others worked long and hard on this case, and at one point she mentioned all close case followers would know Baez was thoroughly unprincipled. I’m not contesting that.
His book however, is an attorney’s attorney’s book, written in lay terms however. I find him a wonderful defense attorney. If he had two flaws, I would say that any fine defense attorney would do the same, and perhaps not as well as he did:
l) because he believed the case was first to last a forensics case, and he is highly detail oriented and has a perfectionist temperament at trying cases, he mounted a defense befitting say Bill Gates’ child without any funding to do so. He was skilled at getting as much pro bono as possible. He lost some experts on the way due to that. He was skilled at using law school interns en masse. Money mgmt. & budgeting with an indigent client were Achilles heels.
2) he adopted Casey’s eventual story—Caylee drowned while both she and George were at home and negligent. His entire case strategy flowed from this.
He has awed respect for Burdick. His stories about Ashton makes it sound like Ashton was as much a cross to bear for Burdick as Casey likely was for Baez. He found her parents as wacked out as Casey. His stories about both parents’ behaviors and antics and statements over time are remarkable. His blow by blow makes it clear that while residing with those 2 parents, Casey and Caylee had no chance at normalcy of any kind, whether there was sex abuse or not. His take on J Perry’s trial rulings and mgmt. pretty much track what I’d already concluded. J Strickland has to be read about to be believed. He has an interesting recounting of the “wack pack”—case intruders trying to insert themselves as investigators, ie Dominic, who seem truly crazy. Good chapter on Kronk. Interesting recounting of different types of forensic specialists and their offices.
I have no doubt whatsoever this case was won not by the jury selected or any diff with AZ, but by his immersing himself and getting trained in every aspect of the forensics while Ashton & FL Med Ex were out to lunch on same.
He missed no detail. ie, When Judge put jury pool in a city Baez didn’t like, he took his crew to bars there to get local gossip and found it unexpectedly a very good pool. When his jury consultant proved not to be a jury consultant, but a graphics designer, he once again made lemonade from lemons. He did his own jury picking and kept the graphics guy on to design his opening statement graphics & others. He presented by “themes” and made them intelligible.
The Furhman story—p 36—was that F blew into t0wn, said he had a lot of LE contacts, was good at negotiating with cops—and without his client present asked JB to rat out his client and tell F where Caylee was and “We can solve this case & you’ll look like a big hero.” Of course, JB would lose his law license, and the suggestion was utterly corrupt. He was also incensed F thought he knew where Caylee was and was keeping it quiet. So, he replied, “I’ll tell you where Caylee is, if you tell me if you planted that glove.” Then he asked him for a favor, speaking to students that night in a law school class he was teaching. F didn’t know FL A&M was an historically black college and “he got a good grilling.” JB said “I could have saved him, but it was too much fun watching.” His take on N Grace appearance is on p 37. BTW he had tried, and won, a number of cases over 2.5 yaers working for the public defender’s office as an intern while in his last 2 years of law school prior to graduation.
@tiberous. JBaez has an excellent chapter
on Kronk that may offer some answers.
@ Rose says:
May 15, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Thank you Thank You Thank you! I can see a lot of time was spent on your post.
WOW! I read Ashton’s book. A lot of it didn’t surprise me.
I think I need to read this book. Belvin did comment on the Today show, last week, that Baez is likable in the court room. WHAT YOU SAY? I couldn’t believe he made that remark. I just remember watching him through the whole ordeal (beginning to end) and thought Baez to be shady, manipulative and unethical. The delays, the ‘I never received those docs’, etc….. I didn’t see what you saw.
Furhamn and the FL A&M…..oh the humility. Kinda sinister on Baez’s part, but I would have rolled with it
You’ve given me a lot of insight, much to think about..and talk about critical thinking! You’re epic!
I appreciate your helping me understand how he rolls. Just a few nights ago, I watched him on HLN. I was about to turn the channel b/c of my dislike for him. I just caught his comment, when he was asked if Jodi would get the DP. As I mentioned on JA’s thread…Baez replied….’No, because Nurmi will kill her first”. I had a genuine LOL and thought….heh….maybe I need to open up my mind a little.
Now I need to read the book. Thanks again, dear friendy. You’re fabtastic! Hugs~~~ xo
Rose:
You mention that JBaez has an excellent chapter on Kronk that may offer some answers.
Transportation/Library access are a problem currently. Would you be able to summarize this chapter or perhaps highlight some keypoints?
tiberious- I have a concern that might be a copyright issue. I will take a look myself and frame context.
B
TY Blink for summary & context on JB’s perspective on Kronk.
Because Beejay used to post links to book pages on Amazon, I went there to see how much one could read for free. I think maybe they don’t do samples.
(Amazon the digital JB for 4.99), bit I’m not promoting purchase.
Remembering I’ve overheard my County library staff pushing some kind of new ebook library to patrons, I went there to check the resources.
I found something I would like to publicize for parents of print-disabled kids:
“State of (X) Digital eLibrary Consortium, in partnership with Bookshare and OverDrive (our technology partner for this site), is pleased to introduce the Library eBook Accessibility Program (LEAP).
If you have a print disability and need accessible eBooks, you may qualify for free membership to LEAP. Login to your account to learn more and apply for free membership.
(If you are a qualifying US student, you are entitled to access the Bookshare.org catalog for free through the support of the U.S. Department of Education and OSEP. Learn more and apply for free membership.)@”
So since DOE funds, likely other States offer to qualifying kids.
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From 4th grade on I had a text to speech software program in my child’s IEP to be used full-time in the classroom (Kurzweil).
Bookshare.org (see above) was one source to download books to be read in Kurzweil.
It astonishes me Bookshare.org is now partnered with our County library for all. In my child ‘s day, if you qualified for Reading for Blind & Dyslexic, you qualified for Bookshare.org. That is true today.
Hey Rose….
I’ve had success with finding books but googling ‘free PDF + title of book”.
It’s not a convenient read and there tends to be errors (intentionally put in, imhho). You won’t find this with brand new books but after sometime passes, you can find some hidden treasures.
Archaic form of pirating literature, you might call it!
Cheers!
@ tiberious
Eeeccchhtttt. Couldn’t find anything and I don’t trust free pdf downloads of books.
Go legit….hit the library or use ebay and buy it second hand. You won’t be supporting any cause other than an uneventful ebay transaction
(thou shall not steal…I should have known better).
Hope this helps! xo