Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage
Portland, OR- In a
Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW, a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.
In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud- the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper, Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.
Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.
BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.
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@Malty. you’re in luck, as is Oregon.
In 2013, The Gov flamboyantly announced the
appointment of Kyron’s ADA to be
Oregon’s Public Safety Dir over a year ago:
(google blurb as file can no longer be found)
“Governor Kitzhaber names Heidi Moawad to be Public Safety Policy …
http://www.oregon.gov/…/press_040413.aspx
Apr 4, 2013 – (Salem, OR) — Governor Kitzhaber today announced the appointment of Heidi Moawad as his Policy …”
Btw Husband & former ADA, & former Pres of County Bar,
keeps OHSU safe & recently armed his officers:
http://www.ohsu.edu/xd/about/services/public-safety/
Rose says:
January 13, 2015 at 10:07 am
http://www.bringkyronhome.org/thank-you/
snip> from above link
Guy Auker (balloon twister), Scappoose, OR
Balloon twister man who donated to bkh might have had a few extra charitable $$. Says he missed work for 6 weeks. How much is six weeks of balloon twisting worth?
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/03/lawsuit_faults_st_helens_gas_s.html
Maybe this is balloon twister Guy Auker’s other line of work for which he missed 6 weeks. Why donate under the balloon twister hat and not the RV Supply hat?
http://www.bizapedia.com/or/GUY-AUKER-RV-SUPPLY.html
@Rose, Great find and TY for N Horman sib list.
@cd says:
January 13, 2015 at 8:15 pm
Good grief, I hope not and seriously doubt it. But, if his office was, then IMHO it would exemplify an act of desperation.
Interesting that link shows a few pics of Kyron I’d never seen, one with him holding the bottle for baby k (obviously from T&K’s) and one with him on a boat with TY who is sporting a stash.
OT
wrt http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/01/sam_adams_former_portland_mayo.html#incart_2box
A happy change for Sam, whom I envision gaily living near 14th & P and feeling important as he gadflies around lobbying Congressmen. With the new Congress, Imo Andrew’s ear is deaf as to a good fit in his choice of lobbyist on US Climate change, so I believe only a mega WRI donor or politician (likely Wyden) could have cleaned out the City Club by presenting an alluring alternative Sam could not pass up.
Andrew is a missionary kid, committed evangelical, worked his way from from World Bank country teams, would not be homophobic, but about all else since leaving the Bank he has proven to be quite politically wise & practical. So, my Q is who arranged this well-paid plum for Sam, as imo he would not occur to Andrew out of the masses without donor or Hill direction.
if the O had a reportorial bone in its body, much less investigative, the O would ferret out who proposed & promoted Sam for this position. And that, & the motivation behind it, should have been the news. Imo the British take things at face value, so Andrew would’ve relied on the recommendation & representation of a US climate change leader & not checked out Adams’ history or bone fides imo.
I have realized those Medford-associated donations likely occurred early on before gofundme existed. If so, imo the bios likely fell out over DY’s expectations re expenditures from BKHF, in which she hadno voice. And Gofundme opened in May 2012, so imo Business Donor Medfordites likely preceded that date.
“A thought returned, “I’ve often lost more money at Neil Richard’s place. Over the last five years he must have dropped dropped fifty grand. Why nor wish to win the money back? In a sense, ir was only fair that he should get it back and the method of getting it back would keep him in the clear, as far as the wish was concerned. Of course, he he’d known he was smarter than that country hick, fifty times smarter. ”
https://books.google.com/books?id=APbGAwAAQBAJ&pg=RA1-PR3&lpg=RA1-PR3&dq=melvin+joyce+horman&source=bl&ots=FNUo66Nzcw&sig=qiuP0cxfyzOaEwyFs2ezpsVJhMk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=z3q1VPnCCMKqyATU94HwBA&ved=0CEcQ6AEwDw#v=onepage&q=neil&f=false
This whole stuff just creeps me out, big time.
Thanks for the link, Rose.
Strange stuff. Is it possible there is a gambling/organized crime/mafia connection to Ky’s disappearance, maybe it was someone other than the immediate’s who owed money somewhere? Maybe a grandpa who got out of Dodge? Wow, I hope LE comes up with something before my mind blows up.
what am I thinking?
Adams was a big Obama supporter, and
then there’s groping Gore, Mr Climate Change.
My question as to who recommended the least
able Congressional lobbyist to WRI lies in plain view.
@TRuth. Give Neil’s 1969 prescient story of a redhead a whirl.
Remember it’s his first “published” story, iirc as an English major.
btw yesterday sundance of the conservative treehouse on Blog day 38 about Jessica Chambers announced the site woukd no longer cover the investigation into Chambers as it felt like it was serving as an enabler of both parent family systems’ sales of goods such as tshirts, parents & their families whom TCTH called “grifters” for doing so even at cost. That would be like Missing Kyron shutting down for the same reason. TCTH seems principled & alert to when it is enabling doubtful family activities, thus putting their deceased child first.
OT Sam Adams
The comments on Olive are amusing. Ck out VW
As for me Good bye Sam
OT VW s link on Olive
http://www.oregonlive.com/sexoffenders/special-presentation/#incart_story_package
@erose. My opinion is it was a paraeducator regularly serving as a support co-teacher in Porter’s classroom to meet the needs of several similar students both iep’d and not, as well as to support Porter herself who while in college at least publically acknowledged she got accommodations for her deafness. Skyline had 3 paras that year, iirc.
@Blink. the url speaks for itself.
Gofundme/Davidson’s FB linked Admin pontificates:
“Roseburg Supports Justice for Kyron Horman shared a link.
1 hour ago ·
I found this today and wanted to share this. This is the blog that Terri and Dede use as their voice. This is the same lady who spews hate for Terri and Dede about Kyron’s case. This is the same lady Dede Spicher CHOSE to do an interview with…instead of going to a reputable news station, or People Magazine like she has before. This lady is a JOKE! Please read and please share!
Blink on Crime, Fear Monger
Posted on December 5, 2014… Continue Reading
blinkoncrime
Combatting the disinformation and sensationalism of Christina Stoy
9 Likes · 6 Comments”
I suppose her link is to that Celis’ case nut job’s
revenge (on you)’s blog?
So can anyone point me to Terri & DeDe on this Blog?
Or is the allegation we somehow all channel them?
Call in psychic crimefighters!
I thought I left this sort behind when I left my federal mental hospital job.
The Davidson now late middle age sibs’ association with this woman
in any manner & for any purpose has earned that wind chill factor
assessment of the Davidson family investigatory intervention system “for Kyron” from me.
LOL
Doesn’t everyone that fears the results of a google search and scream libel develop no less than 6 sites to call attention to it anonymously?
Creepers meeting Creepy. Prolly deserves its own channel or something.
B
People is reputable?
Dr Phil is reputable?
it’s just a matter of rubbing a thumb &
index finger together.
@4:40 pm & 9:02 am yesterday, 1 of 2 Roseburg HC Admins used “givin” when intending “given” in separate posts.
I have 2 severely dyslexic kids, and even they–having been educated–wouldn’t pull that error.
Imo the comment error, repeated, is cultural, and is an identifiable literacy characteristic of this Admin, who claims to have several babies, so it isn’t Morris.
@Rose
I don’t know that blog TCTH
But they do have a point If that is true Or if the situation has gotten out of hand.
Are the family collecting for searches
I will try to find this blog
@Rose
Just thought of this do people have to pay for Go Fund sites. Do you know?
I think gofundme takes a % per donation,
& defer to Blink’s knowledge.
The Conservative Treehouse had daily blogs with comments on Chambers.
I found it by #JusticeforJessica, a motley collection with much infighting lately,
so it proves the importance of a sane investigative site owner/moderator like BOC.
Actually, Malty, that makes me wonder why a grandma would donate thru gofundme, as she did before,
rather than give it to her daughters directly so that none of it goes to gofundme. It’s kind of like she’s
trying to legitimate this funding methid for her girls.
I looked at their sites ast night and was surprised to see Kelly Davidison what ever Posted to that new ugly
Pic of DeDe I never saw her post before The pic is suppose to be DeDe eating I think it is fake
@Malty
https://funds.gofundme.com/index.php?route=edit2/terms
looks like GFMe gets 5% per donation, plus 2.9% of each US donation, plus .30 cents per donation.
I am weak at math, but 7.9% of Stacey’s usual $20 = $1.58 + .30 = 1.88.
so each $20 donation to GFMe is really a
$18.12 donation. And Grandma’s $200 = a donation of $183.90.
And that $1,000 donation is really a $920.70 donation.
Since there’s no tax deduction, and they just move the $ to
a bank account from which they write search checks,
it puzzles me why the Davidson’s even use GFMe rather than advertise a bank’s address.
It’s not like gofundme blurbs generate donations, nor does Stacey. What seems to stimulate a sudden
burp of donations is most likely some private group communication from Desiree, imo.
I looked at that post about blinkoncrime that goes on and on Saying the same old thing
Over and over ( forget that waste of reading ). What has that to do with never giving up looking for Kyron who she loves to the moon and back
just the waters seeking their own level, lol.
B
@Rose, This would be the “sub” that Tanner referenced, the one who called it to Porter’s attention that Kyron was missing. Then, according to Tanner, she left.
IF Porter was busy with the SF, then who and when was attendance taken. If Porter took it at 10 am, it does not follow logic that she would say Kyron was in the restroom one minute and mark him absent for a doctor’s appt. the next minute. If Porter took attendance at the usual time (9-ish) then that would mean she marked him absent, only to tell the para an hour later that he was in the restroom.
So did the para take attendance that day? At 9 or at 10. Was she taking attendance when she asked Porter where Kyron was? Did she mark Kyron present since she was told he was in the restroom?
Rose says:
January 15, 2015 at 11:29 am
@erose. My opinion is it was a paraeducator regularly serving as a support co-teacher in Porter’s classroom…
@Rose
I was amused she wants all those small towns to watch for Terri shopping I am ref to Roseburg supports …..
It is not that far to Eugene for shopping the big stores
LOL Stacy is getting plain silly trying to get some more likes.
Maybe some of the HC directed towards this blog will take the time to read it and see that the editor and people here have one agenda, which is to find Kyron.
@erose. imo attendance is a red herring & not informative.
I don’t think a para or sub would turn in attendance. In fact a full stop SPED coteacher,
in this case Terrones if he ever left his pullout room, would not do so. It would be her.
But we know she is sloppy & had hearing difficulties & judgment failures.
So imo she would be as likely to score Kyron present thinking well I saw him,
& he’sjust in the bathroom, as to score him absent, thinking well he just left with mom to go to the doctor or something because he’s not here. If a teacher like her sees a child who was there leave, imo they think “must’ve made a drs’ run & mom will provide a written note later.”
That is, marking him here or there, 9 or 10, imo Porter is inherently incredible & any input from her is unreliable to me.
@malty. maybe the moon and all that, but her daily focus is a comment on
when he goes to bed & when he crawls out of bed. like clockwork. It is a good thing she
did not know the family preabduction.
It comes to mind we are sadly creeping up to abduction anniversary 5.
Imo expect anxiety & drama from Team Desiree, & further detachment &
new normal from Team Kaine. Wouldn’t be surprised if he married & pushed for
a tpr & adoption of k by KM. Holding out her school involvement as 1 pro, and her
child’s sib relationship with k as another. Pretty hard for Terri to be
school involved with a restraining order.
@Rose
Thanks about Go Fund it seems so unprofessional the way Kelly runs it Go Fund is doing ok with all the clients they have I wonder if it is a family business or bigger
Frankly I think I would rather buy trinkets from Kaine
@Erose
I get mixed up on those teachers. Porter was kyron’s teacher Mathews gave permission to go out side to bring in stuff Who is Mathews
You are good with sorting out people
@ Rose
You are probably right the 5th anniversary will stir up things
If Kaine marries It will probably be another short term commitment So I hope no one adopts Kiara
Why they can’t just let Terri and Kiara alone Puzzles me
And that house of cards blog where no one gets to post an idea or opinion, of Stacy’s , but her should start boring anyone with a mind
If she thinks a war of the blogs will perk things up around there We will continue as usual
Rose says:
January 15, 2015 at 1:17 pm
@Blink. the url speaks for itself.
Gofundme/Davidson’s FB linked Admin pontificates:
-snip
I suppose her link is to that Celis’ case nut job’s
revenge (on you)’s blog?
So can anyone point me to Terri & DeDe on this Blog?
Or is the allegation we somehow all channel them?
Call in psychic crimefighters!
——————–
Actually I think SG has had some ambitions as or thinks she may be a psychic crimefighter
Maybe that is why she is always talking to KY on her Twitter. She has posted and said at TH first name change hearing that she believes KY is no longer living.
http://www.psychiccrimefighter.com/StcPnkLdy/
As far as finding TH I think she is going to need her Quija board.
@I don’t know which one it was cd, the one who air kisses her young kids, while brutalizing a TH
who never reads her arrows; but she recently said she knew TH was guilty from viewing
one picture (1st press conf). No evidence; no trial. Just a feeling. If that ain’t a Borderline’s MO,
I don’t know what is. And they find each other.
.079% plus 30 cents per transaction is very lucrative.
probably the 30 cents handles all the Admin infrastructure.
The fee schedule had a worldwide fee scale.
An ideal platform to move money globally, like bit coin &Silk Road.
As a business, it will draw scrutiny of regulatory bodies if it hasn’t already.
OT
Sam Adams’ new WRI Supervisor speaks
on Vimeo: http://vimeo.com/100827104
I posted that vimeo not for its values content but as a brief intro to show both
parties (wri & sam) have been somewhat misled, whether
by gore or wyden; and, this job can be the making of Sam, or not. Andrew is a
well-trained PhD economist, surrounded by same, and I doubt Sam has a grasp
of climate change as embedded in economics.
@CD
When I look around I agree as Stacy seems to have been involved with psychics for some time as pinkspiritgirl
And that is fine if she claimed to be psychic. Then I could forget her and all the HC as people who think different from me
I have believed there are rare people who are psychic And lots of wannabes
However these people claim a great love for Kyron and a goal to never give up looking for him None of that calls for some kind of attack on BOC They should stick to their own agenda Or bring in psychics on their blog
What ever. We are all doing fine over here
Morris on Roseburg Supports is practicing law without a license in Oregon (& is in absolute error).
While cackleing that Terri has been booed out of a store by her followers, she erroneously says anyone testifying under oath with immunity is absolutely guilty. Tell that to Cynthia Baldwin. It protects from perjury charges should any small detail be in error. Tell that to Spanier. And, I don’t recall DeDe stating her testimony was in response to a Motion to Compel as Morris alleges. quoting OR law to support psychotic thinking pushes the bounds of propriety, but the Roseburg admin (website, Davidson’s gofundme) is grateful to Morris.
I think when they are a moonbat they get a pass for misquoting the law- they lack education of in the first place because it is her opinion. So if any moonbat what’s to know moonbat law… LOL.
A form of immunity is automatic to any person agreeing to testify, but they differ in terms of protections from prosecution.
They differ greatly. And there was never any given during the dozens of investigative interviews anyone gave in this case- that speaks volumes, imo.
Convicted felons cannot be lawyers so there’s that.
B
Oddly, Morris picks & choses from the BOC interview.
Endorses the immunity & fact of testimony,
rejects the part about poly validation.
Not odd Rose, typical. Moreover, the brightest thing (in my view) that DDS Atty agreed to was that whether she passed or failed it, the examiner was required to disclose true results-
B
Mathews was the k/1 teacher on the lower level who had an outside door.
Kyron was in there viewing an electric project when a male asked for help
carrying in something from outside according to witnesses in the room,
who also reported Kyron looked to Mathews for permission, who nodded
affirmatively. So Kyron accompanied the man out. Her room was en route
between the cafeteria & outside, and the boilerroom & outside, thus leading to a theory
he coukd’ve been bringing parent-supplied SF refreshments, or making a
routine food delivery to the cafeteria, or delivering something
to the Jewish School before/aftercare program. He may have secured Kyron &
reappeared in the building for an alibi. An odd duck on O comments, whose name boasts the
initials SR, first pretended Mathews was a “PTA lady,” then pretended that if a staffer her role was
to validate TH’s 8:45 whereabouts. While others treated her respectfully, my opinion was this was
disinformation boosting about what witnesses reported of SZ’s movements. How DY can bear
this disinformation, without personalky correcting the record, is beyond me.
OT
Googling Blink’s vocab is always informative.
I should have known there were real moonbat laws
common to States like Oregon.
Here’s one from Colorado:
“A new law in Boulder, CO requires Medical dispensaries
that grow any of their own product
to offset 100% of the electricity they use to grow their
plants with renewable energy.”
ROTFL
B
Rose says:
January 17, 2015 at 6:13 am
Morris on Roseburg Supports is practicing law without a license in Oregon (& is in absolute error).
—————————————
Do these nitwits realize that if LE/DA thought for a minute or had proof that DDS lied to the grand jury they would have arrested her for perjury by now(making sure she did not lie to the GJ was probably the reason for the LDT following her testimony). Since DDS has limited immunity she probably would not be included in any case against TH so there would be no reason to let her have her freedom. I would also add that if any useful information (in the effort to arrest TH) had been revealed by DDS then TH would have been charged or arrested.
I remember Oregon Corrections Director Michael Francke murder conviction of Frank Gable, under MCDA Frink, coming up in discussion. Thought some would be interested in this link:
http://cni.pmgnews.com/pt/9-news/247414-115588-franckes-brother-declares-killer-innocent-at-salem-ceremony
*snip*
We are now working with the federal defender in Portland to reverse a miscarriage of justice and free a man we feel was wrongly convicted of Mike’s murder. I repeat, Frank Gable was wrongly convicted, and that is an important part of my message today.
*more at link*
^^ not sure if Frink was DA or not, sorry. Having trouble confirming WHO was DA on Jan. 17,1989 or when Gable was convicted. Anyone know?
^^Mike Shrunk was DA in 1989, but not sure if Frink was his ‘right hand man’ at that time or not.
@TKG, per this interesting page, Frink was a Deputy DA in 1989 handling the abduction of a 4 yo boy from a store. single father, noncustodial mother. https://books.google.com/books?id=R3sGBgAAQBAJ&pg=PT52&lpg=PT52&dq=norm+frink+1989&source=bl&ots=ytkxhKWJgI&sig=8wh_sQaGxiomVWAIITWcWbINZxc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=9kq7VJSpOYHtgwSrvoPABQ&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAw
——
Great brothers. Perhaps the new Innocence Project office in Portland played a role. Perhaps after this fine man moved up from Santa Fe, he discovered some corruption on site, not meaning the prisoners.
@Rose says:
January 18, 2015 at 12:39 am
Thanks Rose. So they were ‘working together’ in the MC DA’s office.
On an interesting side note, there are several HC member who are openly into witchcraft etc. It begs question, given the link to the missing boy you mention in Frink’s 1989 link, if Kyron’s disappearance is somehow related to that dark realm as well – beyond the proverbial ‘witch hunt’. We know TH was Christian (her education is from NW Christian Univ), and KH is alleged to be an athiest. Where could this connection come from, if related to Kyron? Was the lady affiliated with the converted church across from Skyline, where the early pressers were held, connected to that aspect? Was the Holmes teen into this stuff?
@ rose
Did they ever find that Lee Eisley (sic) child? I’m hitting zero in my searches about his case, and would like to know how that case resolved. It occurred about 11 years after my nephew was lost out of Eugene – which my sister believes was not an accident but she suspects her son was a victim of a serial abduction.
It is Iseli and yes, he was one of the victims of Westley Allan Dodd- no tie to the “anonymous allegations of Satanist involvement”, etc.
B
It gets better
”
In his appeal, Gable contends their original incriminating testimony came from police tactics that included the relentless abuse of polygraph tests.
David Raskin, a polygraph expert who examined records in the Gable case, said in affidavit filed on Gable’s behalf that witnesses were “intensely interrogated, pressured, coerced and frightened by the angry and sometimes violent behavior of the interrogators.”
He said he found serious misconduct in how police polygraph examiners tested those who subsequently pointed the finger at Gable.”
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/10/frank_gable_cites_new_evidence.html#incart_related_stories
Mr Bend was right, & TH was foolish. And anyone subject to same tactics would “vent” and “weep,” and look to a spouse for comfort. And I do not think Kaine was naive about the tactics used on the innocent. Imo he had his own agenda. After TH mothered his child all those years, and dealt with his troubked ex on his behalf, imo he behaved in a morally bankrupt fashion.
Evidently local police violent poly behavior was well known in local defense Bar in 2010.
I am going to say that across the board, for a variety of reasons, but the biggest one is the lack of skill set consistency and administering of the exam- I am very apprehensive of their “result” and the industry standard from the psych community is they consider about 1/3rd of them to be accurate or reliable. I am trained and hold an advanced certification through Reid, if I see an interviewer has that background, I feel a smidge better.
That said- I hold a special esteem for Raskin- in my view he is the best in the world currently.
B