Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage
Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing, Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.
Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW, a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.
In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud- the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper, Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.
Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.
BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.
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June 4 was approaching the Summer Solstice in 2010.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/06/100621-summer-solstice-2010-first-day-of-summer-longest-year-science/
A factoid only a Reveler would love, but maybe solstice played a role in some Portland witchcraft circles. I know nothing about witchcraft, except in the 60s it fascinated some dropout drug types, & I suppose Portland has some aging sorts of the same, like groundskeeper, for example.
^^ found it. Boys name is Lee Joseph Iseli. Don’t know disposition of the case legally however.
http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1989/Hope-Dwindles-in-Searches-for-Missing-Oregon-Boys/id-0b499cd6b9e2c7fd80d4f74164cd1aea
^^ interesting sidenote…
Vancouver lake is where Iseli was found – my nephew was found in Longview, not far from there. Be interesting to find where Dodd was in 1978…
sorry Blink, missed your comment. Glad to know it wasn’t satanic connected.
Wouldn’t Dodd be one of your “disorganized” types?
no efforts to be surreptitious; pressured to do successive
murders.
I don’t think Kyron was abducted by a satanic circle/person due to abductor’s high level of planning & organization–higher than Terri’s. looking for an IQ off the charts imo along with callous detachment. Imo fits someone in higher levels of computer profession.
There is no evidence of any satanic or any permutation thereof “group” was/is organized and practicing criminal acts for their cause- the Satanic Panic thing was a very real factor but once again I refer to Ken Lanning.
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and perhaps someone with a grudge against Intel or Intel managers like Kaine.
Lots of employee unrest was online then for human resources behaviors like letting go longtime employees just before they reached retirement age. OT as an aside KH seems notable for chosing 3 women whose intellect & work background & abilities are significantly below his imo.
From the blog which solicits $ for the Davidson account,
a new Youtube url which purports to describe “several ways to donate
including PAYPAL” to “Kyron’s search fund.” haven’t watched it myself.
So I guess a search is coming on. Hopefully the Youtube says it is not deductible
and not a 501c3. Doesn’t OR regulate these public social media appeals?
*nelmel picks up the empty pasta bowls that her teenage son and his friends never pick up off the floor of his bedroom after lunch*
I hope I am not repeating what someone else has already posted here. It bothers me a great deal to note that the BKH website has a news page link on it which shows that its admins as well as all its readers/followers can read the latest and greatest news reports written about….well, written about TMH lately. The most recent 3 articles on that website’s news page are all about TMH.
I think that’s telling everyone that the BKH page is tuned right into the belief that TMH is responsible for Kyron being missing. I’m sure this has been discussed among many of you before, but staring at the “news” page provided by the BKH website has rattled me this afternoon.
The bio parents have the right to find out the status of the investigation. Has KH done so? Has Desiree done so?
What are these people doing??
http://www.bringkyronhome.org/news/
I believe that is simply an RSS feed link based on search data so that the site comes up in searches for TMH- increasing it’s google juice as it is competing for donations. That said, Kaine is on record saying he believes TMH is involved- he just can’t can’t say anything that could be construed as harassing per the custody stipulation.
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http://koin.com/2015/01/16/portland-police-negotiators-take-top-spot/
I see 3 white females.
Rest are white males,incl a cutie who is 3rd from left.
Can’t PPB front faux diversity with 1 or 2 tokens like the girls?
@nelmel. I believe under the custody settlement terms that the Foundation’s website cannot feed articles on its front page news articles villifying TH under the guise someone else wrote it, or it’s someone else’s words. At least under a normal Family Court judge, and we know Kantor was some kind of “fast one.” (Not that I’ve looked, but am relying on you.) He fully controls that corporation, which bears a Horman name, and was thecustodial parent of Kyron. He cannot hide behind Foundation “skirts. It isparticularly reprensible that such a feed is in pursuit of “google juice” and thus, bottom line, money. Houze’s para needs to take daily screen shots for a month.
I certainly don’t agree with it- but I think it would be a tough argument to sell harassment when it only features a link of constitutionally protected prose. Kaine did not write it nor did he comment or quote about it.
Now, if he directly comments negatively, etc, then I would agree there is a case for cause/remedy.
B
It seems to me, when the time is ripe, TH could
after Kaine & the Foundation jointly for damages
relating to violation of custody agreement.
ok I went & looked nelmel & Blink
http://www.bringkyronhome.org/news/
wrt “newsfeed” any first year attorney would “pierce the shield” imo.
this feed remains online imo because KH is a detached compartmentalizing
persona who is ill-advised by his “Counsel(s)”.
OLive comments blossom
I don’t read most as the format sucks for me.
But “Oregon is one of only 3 states where we don’t require verbatim recordings of grand jury proceedings.”
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/12/terri_horman_withdrew_petition.html#comments
That is shocking, no transcripts from 2 Kyron GJs?
@tkg wrt ” Kyron is the familial spitting image of his brother in likeness and bone structure”
having seen young pics of KH alongside recent pics of Q, idk if maternal or paternal influence. Have not posted my question as this is a young sib victim. But he is 21 now. Imo neither DY nor KH are transparent vics
who are informative about K’s sibs. .
@Nelmel
There is other news also like that pile up around Baker city where the guy was stuck between
Two trucks this week end I didn’t understand that news section on Kaine’s site either when I looked the other day
It seems some of it is local news. Some is about Terri
Seems strange But who knows. Maybe they just need to fill the page
@Nelmel
That Fox News about a study of men who post selfies on Kaines site Seems real strange to me LOL
@TKG
Try this link
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westley_Allan_Dodd
I was renewing my head on this case last night gives me the same sick feeling it did then
Also read that around this time 1987-1989 there was a satanism panic
I don’t remember that really
But Dodd was really a sick case on his own by age 13
@malty re the fox news re selfies. idk that story, but there was one on npr news in the last 2 weeks referring to lotsa selfie instagram posters being , by research, either narcisstic pers disorderes or psychopaths (imo latter term was usedloosely in the research) and it was said to be not due to their uploaded pic profligacy but due to the extent of their social media subscribers or contacts. So, imo by extension, those using pictures (say of Horman children) to generate social media contacts, subscribers, hits, likely fall into one of those 2 clinical categories imo.
anyone have a link to custody settlement doc?
@TKG
I should have added I am sorry for something like this in your family I take it from what you say that no one has been convicted of this crime
wrt your opinion Raskin is the best, wrt poly,
“David Raskin, a polygraph expert who examined records in the Gable
case, said in affidavit filed on Gable’s behalf that witnesses were “intensely
interrogated, pressured, coerced and frightened by the angry and sometimes
violent behavior of the interrogators.” He said he found serious
misconduct in how police polygraph examiners tested those who subsequently
pointed the finger at Gable.”
http://truth.charleshontsphd.com/Polygraph/WOODWARD/raskinaff.htmwhata dear imo.
Some govt watchdog needs to clean house in mcso & ppb.
clear it won’t be Ellen R (the WW spouse) who is the State AG.
What’s left is FBI & Fed AG, but the latter Holder is a lame duck, and
distracted
per Blink’s Lanning reference
http://www.religioustolerance.org/ra_rep03.htm
@ Malty says:
January 19, 2015 at 4:52 pm
LE never called my nephew’s case a ‘crime’. They ruled it an ‘accident’. The family has never sat well with that opinion. He went to school one day and never came home, until 9 days later when his body was found over 100 miles away in Longview WA. Ronnie had a new bike waiting for him at home. He wouldn’t have run away. He was a mentally disabled 8 1/2 year old (had been held back to first grade), and could not have accomplished the things they claim.
My sister believes a serial kidnapper took him. It has tormented her.
Thanks for the link on Wesley Alan Dodd. He would have been about 16 or 17 in 1978 when Ronnie went missing in Eugene.
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Horman-custody.pdf
Here you are Rose
TY Malty
That Engel is Wil E Coyote for sneakily dropping language the other side would overlook when proofing.
3.D.2. is embedded as the middle of 3 parallel items in a series
but is the only one (social media) that omits the critical “or thru 3rd parties” when it is the one of the 3
where that is relevant.
I’ve been looking for the 2008 financial disclosure (a form) of J Kantor whoseurl I put here several times, but I lack enough google juice. I wanted to refresh my memory about the substance of his investment in Sacks’ real estate business. But I did find
Kantor announcing a probable verdict prior to trial & evidence, & putting himself in jury’s shoes
“But Deputy District Attorney Ryan Lufkin said Tuesday that prosecutors were willing to allow the Manguses to plead guilty to second-degree manslaughter and get a much shorter sentence because Multnomah County Circuit Judge Henry Kantor had told them during a September hearing that he didn’t think prosecutors had a strong murder-by-abuse case. Kantor was the judge assigned to preside over an April 2015 trial of both parents”
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/12/homeless_parents_who_killed_th.html
This incident is like his calling Terri the “prime suspect” based on some insider knowledge not on the record”
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Kantor assigned a political case http://www.kgw.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/11/yes-on-92-campaign-concedes-gmo-labeling/20255701/
and another http://persinfo.blogspot.com/2008_05_01_archive.html?m=1
——
fwiw wife of Kantor is linked to this woman on Intellus (along with 2 daughters & Sacks)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesliekantor?_mSplash=1
—–
Kantor has One comment in Oct 13
calls Yelp “organized crime”
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/you-can-finally-publish-yelp-reviews-from-android-devices/
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What I was wondering was whether DY dropped her suit on Eldon’s advice because a conflict of interest of the Judge’s, or ex parte contacts that had led to his appointment, which would have been revealed had she continued, necessitating his recusal from her case & the Horman case. And the DA wouldn’t have wanted the latter. Stopping her case could as easily have been Judge related (maybe an ethics issue re his assignment), as Desiree or Kyron related.
found thru business name in last paragraph about Robert
http://www.aihitdata.com/company/01049D66/PIXIE-PROJECT/people
financial disclosure reflecting commercial real estate interests
http://cascadepolicy.org/wp-content/themes/OPtransparency/economicinterest/Henry%20Kantor-Multnomah%20County-Circuit%20Court%20Judge.pdf
July 18,2010:
http://www.katu.com/news/local/98717739.html
“I’m kind of glad that the father has moved back into the house,” said Guy Auker, who visited the school’s wall of hope Sunday. “I believe he deserves it and (he) provides a stable home for his child.”
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Father’s obit:
http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=78935
Is this the same Guy Auker who now is a balloon twister?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XElZd3iDEUU
“Kids Need Both Parents”, (Interesting irony.)
Jan. 18, 1996 Marsha Everett, discusses the need for accountability in the Children Services Divisionn and a citizen’s oversight commission to fairly monitor each bureaucracy for abuses Guy Auker, discusses helping men and women to effectively communicate.
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So is Guy Auker alka Alfie the clown:?
pdxfaqx
5 years ago
I bought this bag from Flower. I have done about 5 gigs so far using it. Today I did a Gig for about 500 kids. Yes 500 kids!! I must say the balloon bag was great . I fit many different types of balloons in it. The bag made me look more professional. If you a professional twister you need this bag. Dont try to make your own. It is much easier and cheaper to just buy it from Flower. Thanks Flower you Rock!!!! Guy Auker aka Alfie the clown.
http://eastpdxnews.com/general-news-features/moreland-farmers-market-opens-with-record-crowds/
(snipped, caption under photo)
E**** J***** gets a balloon toy made for her by Alfie the Clown.
*********************
I know BKH has used clowns and balloon twisters at some events. Just wondering if it was him?
(PS, I don’t know why, but clowns kinda’ creep me out.)
http://www.kidsneedbothparents.org/kpsusch96.html
Sorry, missed posting one link.
@tkg. if they don’t call an 8.5 yo being driven 100 miles
to Longview WA & killed a crime, then they don’t
have to investigate. just like Kyron really–
with Terri, no investigation necessary. In her shoes, a lawyer needs to
file for family access to forensic evidence on the
“accident” victim’s body–fibers, dna, semen, etc.
Get a law school criminal law student clinic’s help
if indicated financially. Just not any law school in Oregon.
Choose the U, say Stanford or U Wash, find professor in charge if
criminal law clinic, and write him. Or try Gerry Spence firm on
pro bono.
@TRuth. a male kyron & kaine groupie? who visits a wall? sorry, but who visits K’s wall
but we 60 yo weepie ladies and someone with a Krush on Kaine?
kaine takes his volunteer services & doesn’t screen him, but is a “user” of him?
—
have a nephew (not close) who did & does balloons like mad at kids’ parties & malls,
& was once Texas’ no 1 juvenile magician supposedly, & he got a summer
slot at Julliard as a high schooler for acting. My sister said so many men hit on him in
manhattan (both magician & acting realms), he fled acting (and now sells stocks,
which is like selling magic imo).
@ Rose
If social media had any ethics there would be no problem the admin. Of those FB pages should delete any posts about This custody-Kiara- new mommy and what Terri is doing concerning custody
Say what they may about our BOC and Blink No way are these kind of posts allowed here
@TKG
It wasn’t until the 1980s that awareness of child safety really took off
http://www.nationalchildsafetycouncil.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=16&Itemid=201
I think you are talking earlier years Wouldn’t be a surprise to learn there were other such so called accidents
@TKG
You might find this interesting Last paragraph. Also says 1980′s
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
had to erase my cookies & hx due to my new iphone spazzing out
so in trying to re-find trashy, which I failed at,
instead I got onto psychotrolls FB,
Admin by who else but a true psycho or something akin to..
She says we blinksters are one too.
My comment on the Admin’s statement that we at BOC focus on:
“(Suspect Zero), a possible sexual preditator”
Shout out: That is Pre Da Tor
Just “givin” you a hint
please stop confusing nominative “we” with objective “us”.
@TNG
This might interest you Time line on sexual chil abuse
http://www.danbeard.org/downloads/Child_Abuse_Awareness_Prevention_in_America_Timeline.pdf
@ Malty says:
January 21, 2015 at 2:30 am
Coincidentally, Ronnie was supposed to start Cub Scouts that weekend as well… another reason he would not have run away. He wanted to be a Scout more than anything.
@ Rose says:
January 20, 2015 at 6:05 pm
Ronnie was transported by train. But LE theory on how he ended up under a pile of wood chips in a train car is beyond his physical/intellectual ability. A series of screwups had to occur in order for it to even be possible, but moreover, Ronnie was not capable of the majority of their assumptions. In the LE theory, he got off a bus (which he never should have been on), played with some kids for a while until their parent called them in, and his physical trail ends there (his school papers and stuff are found nearby). He allegedly wandered several miles to a train yard, somehow climbed over or under a barbwire topped security fence unseen by yardworkers, climbed into the only belly dump car with a defective ladder so he couldn’t get out, and then a day and a half later, the train yard filled the car (without checking inside per protocols). His body was found in Longview WA when it was dumped onto a conveyor belt. Only a sharp eyed employee caught it before he went into the mill to be processed – or we would never have known anything…
The family thinks he was picked up from the street after the other kids went inside and he was left alone and lost in an area he was unfamiliar with. And then dumped into the rail car. His official cause of death was deemed “asphyxiation”, he also had a large bruise on his chest. He was not seen at any time after the kids went inside.
Coincidentally, his stepdad started working that day with the railroad as an engineer (different railyard), and Ronnie was proudly telling everyone about it. His stepdad was in Medford on a train, midway between a two day shift, so he was not a suspect at the time. My sister was home with two toddlers at the time, pretty much helpless to do anything. Back then, the LE refused to take a missing child report for several hours (well after dark). It was only when Ronnie’s grandpa, an officer with Lane County Sheriff gathered his own group of friends to search that anything was done to even initiate a case.
I doubt we’ll ever find out the truth, but I know that nobody was ever held accountable for any of the errors that day. The family did try to sue the school (for allowing bullying and for him to get on the bus), bus depot (for dropping him in an unapproved location) and railyard (for the broken ladder that would have kept a healthy child from escaping, and not looking before loading), but they instead put my sister and brother-in-law on trial instead. It was horrible. And that was before the internet. I see now what would have happened, and it’s despicable.
thatkewlgirl says:
January 19, 2015 at 11:47 pm
Hi tkg, if you don’t mind me asking, I assume there was an autopsy done? What was the COD? How far away was the schoo, or whereever he was last seen, from where the child supposedly climbed aboard the train? (It was a train car right?)
@tkg, you must have been reading my mind. thnks.
@tkg, so since your nephew (bless his little soul) was found in another state, (he went missing from Lane County OR?) was the investigation handled by the FBI?
I see I got testy over the iphone’s apparently never-ending software quirks
last nite, & should follow Malty’s example & ignore the challenged.
What a tragic fate, tkg. Sound like someone him a train ride. Sounds like a local bullying incident
as much as a predator. Silence from the school & LE is aggravating, as I bet there were witnesses.
@TKG
This is why I write the Oregon Gov K We need a trained educated task force here in Oregon for the safety of children
Oregon prides its self on being the first But has no real trained LE When a child goes missing
I believe when Kyron went missing If there had been a highly trained track force jump in
This would be a different story
This thing with your little Ronnie is heart breaking I have no helpful ideas if it could be reopened and investigated
I hope so
But there is in my opinion a lack of trained
people to do it
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/12/terri_horman_withdrew_petition.html#comments
Shout out to EFF for documenting hate speech of a Klsmath Falls stalker.
(My dau’s dog is Molly too. She has been a very expensive & very
sad part of my life since she rolled off a plane from a imo fraudulent
breeder/seller from Oregon.)
Why has this severely mentally ill KF Admin person not been charged?
Why does DDY associate with her? for the money adverts?
@tkg. again, perhaps a law school clinic could reopen the investigation, centered on witnesses at the “play” site. maybe by now someone has a guilty conscience. just don’t chose an OR law school.
fyi
spiffy
http://www.gremlaw.com/privacy-policy/
OT – I could see something like this happening to some poor ginger haired lady in either Roseburg or KFalls, with the vitriol the HC has incited. They are already misidentifying people in Roseburg that they are confronting. This will be the possible outcome if they aren’t stopped.
http://www.kptv.com/story/27908578/woman-who-ran-down-victim-in-case-of-mistaken-identity-sentenced-to-prison
@ T. Ruth says:
January 21, 2015 at 11:53 am
COD was asphyxiation. Back then, the school area was basically rural, with new subdivisions going in. The railyard car he was in was loaded at a sawmill property about 5 miles away north on Highway 99. I don’t recall the name of the street where he played with other children. But it would have been right near the Bethel school area.
Ex Xtreme Edge Manager from North CA, was a cop, fire chief and fire science instructor in Shasta/Redding area. Also has his own fitness training business that transitioned from CA to Beaverton OR with a 2 year stint at Xtreme Edge. So how did this Northern CA guy connect up with Bob Briede?
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/christopher-baker/83/1a9/509
erose- I apologize. I was somewhat behind in moderating but I think this was a device issue on my end.
Please let me know if I missed anything.
B
Baker has unfinished biz in CA.
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Posted Apr. 29, 2014 @ 4:41 pm
Yreka, Cailf.
More than two years after being charged with theft of public funds, former Mount Shasta Fire District chief Chris Baker may have his trial set on May 28, said District Attorney Kirk Andrus.
Baker is accused of using the fire district’s credit card for unauthorized, personal charges between $5,000 and $10,000 over about a year’s time in 2011, Andrus said.
Baker was approving charges on the district’s credit card “without another set of eyes approving them,” said Andrus.
Baker, who resigned from his position as the district chief in January 2012, is being represented by the Siskiyou County Public Defender’s office and has since relocated to Oregon. His trial has been postponed at least two times over the past two years.
Baker is also charged with two counts of willfully providing false statements to obtain unemployment insurance benefits, Andrus said.
Though Baker has pleaded not guilty, he repayed a portion of money back to the district via cashier’s checks, which have yet to be deposited.
Read more: http://www.mtshastanews.com/article/20140429/News/140429629#ixzz3PXL7JHpM
According to SpitFire FB, they were running out of Xtreme Edge 12/2013. Now it seems they are running out of Rhino Fit Studios.
SpitFire Training via The Xtreme Edge
December 9, 2013 ·
https://www.facebook.com/pages/SpitFire-Training/107611996017126
check out the Jan 1st rant on the Rhino page
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Some truth from Dante Trudel
In light of all the recent deaths I think this is something everyone could stand to read
I have just gotten up to here with this stuff (people in the sport dying from age 28 to 52).
We got a slew of terribly insecure bodybuilders from 17 to 24 following these junkies (and thats what they are JUNKIES…THEY ARENT ATHLETES) in this sport such as the guy with the initial B.L. (I wont even say his name) pronouncing that you need up to 13 grams of stuff to win a local Cali show (in which nobody else showed up.) Its time a group of people stepped forward in this sport and said ENOUGH…and embarrassed the people who will spend 3000 dollars on gh but not 98 dollars on a complete CBC.
GROUP1: Approaches this endeavor as an athlete, will squeeze blood from a stone with training, diet and supplements and does their absolute best to make health a priority while going for their goals. Group2: Junkies, that come from a terribly insecure background, feel that they are nothing without bodybuilding and are walking pharmacies with candyass training and halfass eating. I state that because its really going to take an US VS THEM mentality to change the culture here.
https://www.facebook.com/rhinofitstudio
Makes you wonder if that is why Baker left Xtreme Edge.