Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage

Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing,  Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.

Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW,  a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.

In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud-  the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper,  Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.

Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.

 

 

BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.

 

 

 

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  1. T. Ruth says:

    @Rose says:
    May 6, 2015 at 5:17 pm

    Why would she have to ask if she should attend in the first place? Why not just tell them she’s going? weird, maybe she hit the ? by accident. Who knows.

    I didn’t realize there was a BKH FB page in addition to the BKH Website.

  2. Malty says:

    Blink
    I see why you are lost now I didn’t say Briede and Kaine Was what I puzzle over What do they have in common besides those steroids I don’t think about steroids much I have never seen or heard of anyone arrested
    For them here lots of younger men tried them in that skinny age some guys suffer

    I have no idea Malty- I can only state my opinion that Briede is tied to Kaine via Kaine’s steroid use, purchase, sales and connections to others arrested following Kyron’s disappearance.
    B

  3. Malty says:

    However I did read that Intel study on the older men and steroids getting energy and all back on the job
    I thought it was talking about over 50+ men

  4. Rose says:

    stalk & harass a mother victim of child loss &
    Dr Phil will pay you for on air time
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/05/mom-says-she-is-harassed-online_n_7218538.html

    Yep, thus why he is no longer credentialed, as I understand it.
    B

  5. Rose says:

    She’s supposed to be living in Sacramento & going to Bayside Church.
    idk what her one sentence comment with a ? meant.
    just found it odd

  6. Rose says:

    That is a point steroids may have had a Canadian supplier.

    The thing is if I re-read his litigation against 24 Hr I’d know the month 24 Hr gave Briede the boot.
    I’m too lazy. But it was 2009, the Edge was not open, & Kaine was back at 24 Hr where Briede was not welcome.
    So I don’t think Kaine & Briede had converse. Imo his puffery of Kaine in July 2010, and pissery of Terri, was pure marketing 101 for his new gym.

  7. erose says:

    @Malty, Thanks for the nice words of encouragement. Don’t you think it’s weird that Briede left 24 Hr and sued them, but his sister stayed on?

  8. Malty says:

    @Erose
    I have always thought something was off about Briede not just steroids Time will tell I guess

  9. Malty says:

    @Erose
    Didn’t the Hormans have some friends who had a beauty salon or were in that business
    I seem to recall something about them

  10. Malty says:

    My new server is great but they want you to do chat if you have questions I can’t even read the small print on chat plus it takes forever to get a simple answer. I really don’t like chat

    lol. There are some chat apps as cust service that are boolean or kwerty based- meaning, there is no live person, depending upon what you type- a specific response is generated. Those are useless. Malty- I am in the bifocals or reader sector now and it is a colossal PITA.
    B

  11. Rose says:

    “…and connections to others arrested following Kyron’s disappearance.”
    Who was arrested following K’s disappearance?
    —-
    @malty. People get arrested in OR for dealing, not using.
    Presumeably Houze informed the DA of the dealor’s name on Kaine’s check.
    The question is why the Mult Cty DA took no action wrt that gym-based dealor?
    Maybe too many LE would have been caught up in buyer disclosures by said dealor’s defense
    attorney.

    The various and sundry roid arrests I have posted over the years. A source told me several of them were lined up to provide depositions for TH side of the custody case. In my view, that was the reason Kaine settled at all instead of going to trial.
    B

  12. cd2 says:

    I watched this show and it was interesting. apparently the woman family that was being cyber stalked by another woman who BTW did not actually know any of the family members and read the story in the news.

    This poor family’s oldest daughter was thought to be the victim of suicide due to being bullied online. The girls death was ruled a suicide by local LE and the coroner.

    The cyberstalker believed that the younger sister of the dead girl had beaten her to death with a baseball bat. (pretty weird since the older deceased sister seemed to be about 15 years of age and the younger sister looked to only be about 12.) The cyberbully woman based her information on having the same first name as the deceased girl and claimed she had seen a vision of the murder.

    This poor family was being harassed thru face book, emails etc.. relentlessly by the nutso cyber stalker. Every day the stalker would post insults accusations about the younger sister and mom.

    (starting to sound familiar?)

    The cyber stalker claimed she spent 5 hours a day posting on her Facebook (withe 600 likes) blaming the younger sister for her older sisters death and claiming the girls mother was covering the crime up. The poor family had gotten a cease and desist order against the stalker but stalker woman ignored it posting she had wiped her a$$ with it.

    What was interesting here is the cyberstalker bully mom when confronted about her action by Dr. Phil said things and sounded just like a certain hater we know SG. She said the same things SG says every day it was weird and she apparently lacked any ability to see her actions and how she was a bully just like SG.

    Phil finally told her that he thought the only reason for the cyber bullying/stalking was her desire to somehow be important.

    I wish FB would do something about these people. They are so nuts that most of the time the followers of these people believe they are the ones being harassed. The can read a point by point list about what cyber bully’s do and not even notice it is describing them.

    http://drphil.com/shows/show/2411

    There are very specific psychological reasons why people stalk others and they have nothing at all to do with the reason “why” they claim they do it. Dr. Philmenot is right. Self-importance and worth one cannot glean in any other way, coupled by ease of access is at the top of the list. It breaks my heart to see a teen suicide of any kind- the cyber bully thing is just unreal.
    B

  13. erose says:

    Here are the dates. Still think it’s weird Briede’s sister continued her employment at 24 Hr. thru Feb. 2013.

    snip>

    BACKGROUND

    Plaintiff Robert Briede worked for defendant from 1996 until he was terminated on June 25, 2009. Four months later, Briede sent a letter to defendant’s Chief Executive Officer outlining his employment claims and notifying defendant that he would file suit unless he received a response. After receiving no response, Briede filed suit in the Multnomah County Circuit Court alleging employment discrimination and retaliation.

    Defendant later advised Briede that he had agreed in his employee handbook to arbitrate any employment-related claims against defendant. Briede subsequently agreed to voluntarily dismiss his lawsuit and submit his claims to binding arbitration.

    Following his termination, Briede created The Xtreme Edge (Xtreme) to open his own fitness center. Briede is Xtreme’s president and major shareholder.

    On January 15, 2010, defendant’s landlord notified defendant that the lease at its Tanasbourne location would not be renewed beyond February 28, 2010. Defendant also learned that Briede planned to lease that location for Xtreme’s competing gym. Plaintiffs allege that upon notice of Briede’s plan to lease the Tanasbourne location, defendant began retaliating against Briede and interfering with his new business.

    Plaintiffs allege that defendant threatened its employees to prevent them from working for plaintiffs, and fired several employees who accepted positions with Xtreme before their two-week notice period had expired. Plaintiffs further allege that defendant intentionally damaged the electrical wiring and data communication lines in its Tanasbourne location. Plaintiffs initiated this lawsuit because of this retaliatory conduct.

    http://or.findacase.com/research/wfrmDocViewer.aspx/xq/fac.20101021_0000484.DOR.htm/qx

  14. Rose says:

    Thank you erose
    http://www.majdevelopment.com/m/home
    idk where on this site the google excerpt below lies, perhaps their FB page.

    “MAJ Development 24 HR FITNESS WATERHOUSE
    http://www.majdevelopment.com › 24-HR-FIT…
    The new 24-Hour Fitness in Beaverton Oregon was one built by MAJ Development in 2010 with newest floor plan that …”

    If 24 Hr got their lease lost notice on 1/15/10, and had to be out 2/28, MAJ Dev. worked swiftly to have a 04/10 opening. There was only say 6 weeks down time. So by mid April the Hormans were back at 24 Hour.
    there was a time peroid between mid-Feb and mid-April where the Hormans had to go to one of the other 24 Hr locations than the norm. (There are 3 in Beaverton.) Maybe Kyron came to someone’s attention in child care room.

    Apparently the 24 Hour re-open was in April 2010
    “Helped Grand Open the gym in April 2010″
    https://www.linkedin.com/pub/brandon-goffe/aa/106/b14
    —–
    Beaverton. Aug 2010
    https://orwells1984oregon.wordpress.com/2010/08/10/illegal-alien-in-beaverton-orders-peyote-from-mexico-but-not-arrested-_-huge-mexican-marijuana-operation-in-beaverton-home/

    Steroids also
    http://www.kptv.com/story/14794273/peyote-marijuana-found-during-search-of-home-8-10-2010

  15. Malty says:

    I finally searched Oregon and steroids the rules varies in states but as of 2002-2004 you must have a license or prescription In Oregon Before it was pretty much unregulated So that is why I never really thought much about
    What seemed like a man/younger men thing most of my life
    So ok now I know.

  16. T. Ruth says:

    I’m forgetting, where was it reported that TMH uses a hearing aid?
    Has this ever been verified by anyone? Surely Dede would know.

    I ask this because if she didn’t have it on the day Kyron went missing, that could lead to all sorts of miscommunication, not only between she and Porter (who it has been reported also wears a hearing aid), but also between her and KH, DY, LE, whomever told her about the chaperone and two girls, etc., etc. I’d just like to now for sure if we know for a fact that TMH normally wears a hearing aid.

    She does. I verified that independently. She also reads lips and signs, to my knowledge.
    B

  17. MockingbirdSings says:

    T. Ruth says:
    May 7, 2015 at 3:10 pm
    (snipped)
    She does. I verified that independently. She also reads lips and signs, to my knowledge.
    B
    ———————————–
    Signing is great for kids and babies – my 7 month old grandson signed “eat” this morning, so we did.
    Do you think Terri taught Kiara and/or Kyron to sign?
    Who else in the Horman circle of acquaintances, gym buddies, coaches, teachers, etc., knew how to sign, and maybe more importantly, could read signs proficiently? Does Ms. Porter sign?
    What about Kaine? To whom did Terri regularly sign? Her parents?
    James?
    Knowledge of signing can be an important job skill, and can count as your second language for many colleges.

    I can only say James is fluent- outside of that I don’t know.
    B

  18. Rose says:

    TRuth. Some people, like my husband, cannot be benefitted by a hearing aide in the nonhearing ear. Nerve deafness is what it is. I refer to Ms Porter. The accommodations she herself wrote about which she received in college indicate a person who is not benefitted at all, at least in a classroom setting, by a hearing aide but needs written transcription of oral speech. It is the height of instructional folly she is teaching a K class where clear phoneme pronunciation and association with written symbols is vital. In my experience with similarly hearing impaired teachers, a hearing impaired person of this severity inevitably misprounces important phonemes and inevitably mishears children whose own oral motor & speech skills are weak. Frankly, her disability is best suited to middle & high school if she is to be in the classroom.

  19. Rose says:

    “Phil finally told her that he thought the only reason for the cyber bullying/stalking was her desire to somehow be important.”

    I ansolutely disagree with Phil sense of importance thing based on cd’s run down.
    This particular woman is psychotic.
    Moreover she presents a clear danger to younger sister.
    She is bullying YS exactly as Older Sister was bullied.
    My opinion is if a sugar daddy would fund it for them, parents should work out criminal charges & push
    for a civil commitment for eval if nothing else based on “imminent danger to others” criteria.

  20. Rose says:

    think Hinkley btw.
    she is a psychotic stalker whose actions are life threatening to younger sister imo.

    I think little imo of TH/DDS stalkers, momma bear down to
    her stalking followers who raise money for her & act on her instructions,
    they represent so at least. may her summer bring her and hers much more mellowing
    wine & music.

  21. cd2 says:

    MockingbirdSings says:
    May 7, 2015 at 7:02 pm
    T. Ruth says:
    May 7, 2015 at 3:10 pm
    (snipped)
    She does. I verified that independently. She also reads lips and signs, to my knowledge.
    B
    ———————————–
    Signing is great for kids and babies – my 7 month old grandson signed “eat” this morning, so we did.
    Do you think Terri taught Kiara and/or Kyron to sign?

    ————-

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_horman.html

    -snip

    James, who is staying with his father, Ron Tarver, in Roseburg, said his mother treated Kyron like her own son.

    “The only difference between her relationship with Kyron and me was the difference in ages,” he said.

    Terri was the first to recognize that Kyron needed glasses, James said, and taught him sign language by the time he was 6 months so she could communicate with him.

    “She was pretty proud of that,” Ron Tarver said.

    ———–

    When I first read this I was confused because why would Kyron with vision problems need to know sign language. After reading that TH had a hearing loss I now understand.

  22. erose says:

    5-year-old boy wanders away from school, walks home

    The family says the school admitted its error and even shared photos showing River being at school and then just walking out. He even passed by student crossing guards and an adult volunteer.

    “How did this even happen?” John said. “How could he even get passed so many adults and off of the school grounds?”

    We did some checking and there are five registered sex offenders in this area, fortunately none along the walking route home. But as he walked the mile-long route through neighborhoods, he was approached by a driver. River,

    http://www.komonews.com/news/local/5-year-old-walks-out-of-school-1-mile-home-303016781.html

    This is simply unforgiveable. We are talking about a 5 year old child.
    B

  23. Malty says:

    our dear Dr Philup and his wife Robin are so inspiring as a marriage and family But there are some subjects that are just over his head IMO someone should should select his guests carefully

  24. Malty says:

    Blink
    I think that chat is just automated answers also I have no streaming what ever but I am paying less than before
    More money more service I suppose LOL

  25. Malty says:

    I tried to post a link to the Oregon steroid stuff twice and it just didn’t post Maybe that is the new server
    Also

  26. Malty says:

    It seems like a long time ago someone said that T taught Kyron to sign as a baby I just hope with her education and skills she finds a good job and is left alone to make a home for Kiara to visit

    They may have to do a study on cyber bullies and come up with a whole new mental illness. The family and 2 sisters is just a awful situation As usual I wish some one would find away to control FB posts and sites

    Malty, I don’t have the link either but you are correct.
    B

  27. Rose says:

    somewhere an early print article says Terri taught Kyron some ASL.
    Can be used with processing disabled in early childhood to enrich
    language learning tactilely.

    Yep, you and Malty and T. Ruth ( sorry if I missed anyone, please point out my error if I did)
    At the worst possible week- the allergies in the NE coupled with the heat and my blinkettes are planting ( with our supervision) for my Mom’s day gift- I am operating with only the left eye, lol.
    B

  28. T. Ruth says:

    Thanks, Blink.
    ****************

    Terri was the first to recognize that Kyron needed glasses, James said, and taught him sign language by the time he was 6 months so she could communicate with him.

    “She was pretty proud of that,” Ron Tarver said.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_horman.html

    You know, up until today, I always thought that sentence read as James saying Terri taught Kyron sign language.

    Now however, I’m thinking why would Tarver know that, so now I think article was supposed to read *James said, Terri was the first to recognize that Kyron needed glasses, and she taught me sign language when I was six months old.* Ron Tarver most likely being there with James during this particular interview added, that she was proud of that, being as he would have been there when James was 6 months old. (I never could figure out what signing had to do with needing glasses, now it makes more sense.)

    However, I would think she probably taught Kyron and Kiara as well. I know I would want my children to be able to communicate their needs to me if my hearing was impaired. Kids are such fast learners when they’re young, like little sponges they are, I think it would be a great tool for any of us to have. Being able to communicate across the room would have been fun!

    For me, if Kyron knew sign language, and I agree with you that he likely did- this is an important “miss” on behalf of LE in advising the public of this ability. As an example- what if Kyron were afraid to call attention for help to himself verbally for fear of detection so he thought signing was a good option? Longshot maybe- but I can tell you that the ability to speak an alternative language to English (signing both using and understanding) is an important aspect of a childs victimology study as well as potential investigative tool for witnesses.

    I have no training in overall hearing impaired languages, or frankly, how to interview someone that was- but I can tell you as a point of fact it would be a consideration in an interview ( not if subject was wearing aid, and examiner tested the unit themselves ( if qualified). I did receive a private post from a reader/poster that advised me that they wear a hearing amp device since a very young age, HOWEVER they as technology has advanced, they find they must remove or turn off in crowds, public and sporting events because it is the equivalent at times at being able to hear everything like a firehose.

    So I will ask- I wonder if when TH was interviewed and subsequently polygraphed if her hearing issue was a factor?
    B

  29. T. Ruth says:

    So Rose, did you say that Briede’s sister was employed at the Walker Road 24 Hour gym? That’s also where Andrea Leckey worked.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp69S0kgiWU

    Who was the manager of that gym? Also, why did Kaine and Terri use separate gyms in the first place? Someone said they used to both work out at the same gym. Did KH have a membership at both gyms? Did Terri work out at the edge gym, and then after the steroid phone call, switch gyms? Did Leckey ever work for Bob Briede, when he was the manager of the 24 hour gym?

    I think I asked this before, but at which gym is this picture taken, it was posted November 2009, the baby’s first birthday:

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1284525514281&set=a.1284523314226.2044075.1264414625&type=3&theater

    Rosenthal had a lot of questions on Dede’s deposition about her gym membership when and where. I would imagine KH’s deposition did too, though we were only shown part of it.

  30. MockingbirdSings says:

    Rose says:
    May 7, 2015 at 7:31 pm
    (snipped)
    In my experience with similarly hearing impaired teachers, a hearing impaired person of this severity inevitably misprounces important phonemes and inevitably mishears children whose own oral motor & speech skills are weak. Frankly, her disability is best suited to middle & high school if she is to be in the classroom.
    —————————————–

    Totally agree, Rose. It reminded me (not to make light of a serious issue) of my experience the first year I moved from Kentucky to Oregon and started teaching 3rd grade. When I gave the traditional spelling test – word, sentence with word, word – totally unexpected letters kept turning up in the student’s answers. Finally, I got so frustrated, I asked the class after a couple of weeks – “Why aren’t you getting these words right, we worked so hard on them all week?” Finally one brave boy spoke up and said, “That’s the way YOU SAY them!” The others agreed and we all laughed. I immediately started working on a new “Oregon accent”.

    Needless to say, the spelling tests began to steadily improve. Sometimes I let a student say the words, too. Anybody who thinks that doesn’t matter to kids and who isn’t receiving or providing some sort of assistance for children in this situation, doesn’t belong in education, IMO.

    I love that story.
    B

  31. Rose says:

    @TRuth. When the 24 Hr closed due to loss of lease, and Edge who moved into that former 24 Hr space was not yet
    open for business, and their former 24 Hr was also closed until it built out a new space nearby their old site, both Hormans were forced to go to a different 24 Hour. Their old 24 Hr reopened in April per that mgr’s Linked in. Briede opened Edge in the old site the Hormans were used to driving to in early May. I presume the Hormans used their 24 Hr membership and went there until Marketing 101 Briede began donating goods from his just-opened new business (was it water?) & trumpeting his own horn in the press. Certainly there was an argument for Kaine to buy a new membership (I bet Briede waived the fee) at Edge because Briede had hired away many 24 employees they knew, and they were used to driving to that site. And it looks like Briede hired plenty of eye candy. Erose is correct Briede’s sister remained with 2; Hr; whether at the same location I don’t recall. Her job was corporate if I recall correctly.

  32. Rose says:

    @TRuth. picture was at their 24 Hr gym I think it’s called Tannisburne or similar. Edge (Advantage Fitness) had not even been incorporated in Nov 09, and 24 Hr at the Horman’s location had not yet closed; it closed in Feb ’10 and reopened at a nearby location in april.

  33. Malty says:

    Blink
    Sorry you only have one left eye from a bad week LOL
    And what you said about if Kyron remembered sign language. It should have been noted I agree
    In so many ways this case has NOT been about Kyron at all

    Tomorrow I hope you get some relief from your bad week. Happy Mothers Day

    For me a bad week is everything breaks down I want stuff to run forever when I press the button :)

    Thank you kindly Malty- not a bad week really, just a really unmanageable schedule and deadlines and then an allergy based sinus infection. I did the Nettie pot and drank gobs of POM and on the upswing as is the right eye, lol. I hate when people in good health overall complain and I just did, Aaah!
    B

  34. Malty says:

    Car wash today. In KFalls I hope they make enough money to make the trip worth it
    It is suppose to be 84 here today so it will probably be warmer there

  35. MockingbirdSings says:

    T. Ruth says:
    May 8, 2015 at 12:59 pm
    Blink says –
    “For me, if Kyron knew sign language, and I agree with you that he likely did- this is an important “miss” on behalf of LE in advising the public of this ability. As an example- what if Kyron were afraid to call attention for help to himself verbally for fear of detection so he thought signing was a good option? Longshot maybe- but I can tell you that the ability to speak an alternative language to English (signing both using and understanding) is an important aspect of a childs victimology study as well as potential investigative tool for witnesses.”

    This thought occurred to me also (discreetly asking for help), but my first thought was about the “he saw it all and was involved” comment. Granted, I have no way of knowing if that was true or what it meant exactly, but I wondered if Kyron might have seen a signing conversation and understood at least part of it, becoming a liability to someone who wanted to take no chances.

    With family members meeting in a restaurant to exchange children for the weekend visits, and with restaurant noise being what it usually is, I can’t believe there is anyone in this group of people who didn’t know Terri signed, and that at least James and Kyron could too. Knowing brothers, it wouldn’t surprise me if James and Kyron sometimes communicated with each other that way. My guess is that Kyron wasn’t able to spell a lot of words yet (and therefore sign by spelling), but certainly could have gotten the concepts.

    This also opens up a new train of thought for me about the relationship between Ms. Porter and Kyron. Kyron understood hearing difficulties. Young kids naturally like to please their teachers who normally encourage that with lots of encouragement and feedback. If Kyron did not follow directions of one or more adults at school (and we don’t know exactly what that involved), there was a reason. Since Kyron did not seem to have that problem at home, and appeared happy, my guess is that there was more to the adult (behavior) side of the story than we know, or something Kyron didn’t want adults to know.

    We can’t ask Kyron his version any of this, but there’s a lot more to know than we’ve been given, IMO. And since Terri was said to have asked for the behavior (report) cards each day, it seems that she knew what his behavior was like, but it doesn’t seem like she knew why either.

    There are so many unknowns, I have to keep using words like “appears” and “seems”. It’s like forming an opinion about a cloud shape which keeps changing as it blows over.

    As to whether Terri’s hearing was a factor in the polygraph results, I don’t know, but I’ll bet Houze thinks so.

  36. T. Ruth says:

    T. Ruth says:
    May 8, 2015 at 12:59 pm

    Blink says:

    For me, if Kyron knew sign language, and I agree with you that he likely did- this is an important “miss” on behalf of LE in advising the public of this ability. As an example- what if Kyron were afraid to call attention for help to himself verbally for fear of detection so he thought signing was a good option?

    ******************
    That is an excellent point. He could have been signing *help me* or *call 911*. If he knew signing, it should have been right there with his description and the clothes he wore, etc. Of course, no one ever bothered to point out the child has not one, but two moles on his face either!

    OTOH, thinking into this further, maybe LE would NOT say if Kyron knew signing so as to not tip off his abductor of said skills. Scratching head now.

    Anyway that article was written poorly, so who knows whether he does or not.

  37. T. Ruth says:

    It just occurred to me that I should learn and will learn, at least two signings:

    Call 911 and Help.

  38. erose says:

    If you think about it, both Briede’s sister and TH stayed with 24 Hr.

  39. Rose says:

    Edge opened in early May. That’s not enough time to say either TH or KH “stayed” with 24 Hr. And Briede stole so many 24 Hr employees, who knows who employed Ledecky in May or June?
    Anyway, it’s more likely TH would stop Ledecky & gush with pics on June 4 if she’d been in Ledecky’s gym site a couple months during renovation but no longer saw her after the new Tannasburne 24 Hr site’s grand opening.

  40. Rose says:

    @mbs wrt “Since Kyron did not seem to have that problem at home,”
    I bet he did.
    And, I think it very unlikely, characterologically,
    that KH treated Kyron any differently from James.
    My assumption therefore is KH was hard on Kyron.
    And, of course on the custody offensive
    he’d make those statements about
    the card thing (his is the only info
    Terri did that) to put Terri in that “hard on”
    catbird seat.

  41. Rose says:

    @Malty. Car washes began as TV & press ops for Desiree in Terri’s hometown and continue in DDS’
    and Terri’s hometown. I don’t see them making gas money, so there’s no reason to stalk the two ladies’ residences but publicity. Yet, The question has become why has Desiree disappeared while her followers carry on in concert with her sister? I don’t think new job, speaker/volunteer behavioral expectations, nor extracurricular activity joys adequately explain her newfound silence. We shall see during the promised Search of 2015.

  42. VW says:

    erose says:
    May 7, 2015 at 4:16 am
    Here are the dates. Still think it’s weird Briede’s sister continued her employment at 24 Hr. thru Feb. 2013.

    xxxxx

    Thanks for the link. IMO Briede had had it in for TMH even before the O’donnell separate/conquer.
    Could go back further and complicate than the steroid issue. TMH appeared to have rejected the body-building career post her ‘competition’ – that Briede encouraged. Could she have ‘dissed’ the program that Briede felt had put him on the map?

    VW- you signed in with your real name, I assumed you did not mean to, so I changed it. When you sign in next time you will have to change it manually, if you meant to, than sorry- you may use it of course.
    B

  43. Rose says:

    Adding to that, Woolf, per DDS Terri was against nutritional supplements in body building and likely had a health missionary’s zeal in persuading gym ladies to forgo a lucrative source of income for Briede thru their sales. Such sales have been a hallmark of his businesses.

  44. Rose says:

    soldier Stacey’s site was thrilled with car wash publicity in KF on kdrv.
    My take:
    if I were DDS, I’d have arrived early with my sponge & cloth, worked hard, & gotten on camera.
    No Davidson showed up altho they receive & spend the funds.
    KF’s Mother Mouthpiece, who seemed to have kids present, said the next search will be “in a few months.”
    Not surprised, summer is fishing trips, lake trips, & vineyard outings. early Fall fits.
    She further said the car wash was to put pressure on those knowing where Kyron is, featured “wanted” fliers
    with DDS’ prominant pucture (I’d sue her), and named DDS as who she sought to pressure, as well as Terri.
    So tired of attention-seeking delusional surrogates raising money for Desiree.

  45. Malty says:

    In some interview
    Kaine said T didn’t work out she walked around talking to people and flirting
    At the time I thought since she was home and not working. That the gym was more of a social outing for her than for Kaine
    Maybe Briede thought she was suppose to work out serious
    However I have also read where she kept to herself at the gym From other people

    I do feel Briede and Kaine. Don’t want T at the. Extreme Edge. For more than we understand

  46. Rose says:

    Woolf, Can you explain:
    vwrevisionstheNW etc is silent;
    missingpiece/autism is retired
    anotherkyronblog is ctrl/alt Delete

    How is it Warrior Soldiers’ multiple
    stalking sites sail on with wanted posters of
    2 ladies and ongoing threats and three “good guys”
    have folded em?

  47. Rose says:

    illegal stop and arrest by PPD of a random kid with an afro & no criminal history results in imo outrageous prosecution by ADA, perjury by officer, severe reprimand by judge (thank you cameras), and thankfully the 9 officers did not break his neck. pro bono by Houze. So where is the DOJ wrt this police dept? http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/03/judge_rules_portland_teen_xxxx.html

    I completely agree that this kid never should have been brought to bench trial- notice the Union President goes after the Judge and not the DA- no comment from the ADA.
    B

  48. Rose says:

    @mbs. Any theories on hiw Kristina Porter got a 15 year teaching award in 2014-15
    (p 8 of 18)?
    http://www.pps.k12.or.us/files/Service_Awards_Board_Book_3-19-15.pdf
    In Spring 2010 she finished a 3rd yr of probationary teaching & got tenure.
    So she should have finished her 8th year in PPS. .

  49. Rose says:

    note the exculpatory bank surveillance footage on which the Judge relied to find the Officer’s testimony not credible.
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/03/post_511.html#incart_related_stories
    It is a Shame the ADA puts officers on the stand knowing–from bank surveillance footage–the officer is
    committing perjury. Hopefully Houze’ civil suit will get DOJ attention. The City will be
    desperate to settle; I hope Houze does not. Which comes back to reams of exculpatory footage
    from multiple businesses and private cameras wrt Terri. Terri’s very brief gym stop
    on 6/4 could have been becauseKaine required her to be his mule that day–like the cleaners–making
    a pickup at a quiet time of day, child in tow. One reason she woukd not go public with his steroid purchases.
    Perhaps he deliberately implicated her.

    Anyone else noticing Houze’s selection of recent cases? I promise you MCSO is.
    B

  50. Rose says:

    I don’t think Staton would notice his navel if it ruptured.
    And we know O’Donnell has zero credibility.

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