Missing From UVA : Hannah Elizabeth Graham
Charlottesville, VA- Second year University of Virginia student Hannah Graham texted her friends last Saturday morning at approximately 1:20 AM- saying she was lost in the area of Wertland Street.
She has not been heard from since. According to Charlottesville Police Captain Gary Pleasants, it is believed Ms. Graham was intoxicated at the time of her disappearance and may have been on her way to a party but did not arrive.
In recently released images of Graham leaving her apartment at approximately 9:30PM Friday evening, she is shown wearing black skinny pants and a gold and black mesh crop-top, beige shoes or sneakers.
Ms. Graham’s disappearance is not related to a 2013 teen runaway from Indiana with the same name.
The disappearance of Ms. Graham comes on the heels of the recently adjudicated murder trial of Alexis Murphy , the disappearance on the same date as Ms. Graham in 2010 of Samantha Clark and of the course the unsolved murder of Morgan Harrington, who disappeared from John Paul Jones arena in October 2009 and later found murdered in January 2010 on Anchorage Farm in Albemarle County.
In Ms. Harrington’s case, the DNA profile and sketch of the suspect in her murder as well as a rape in Fairfax county in September 2005 was released, but he has not been identified by name or captured.
Harrington Murder Suspect Sketch
Ms. Murphy’s remains have never been recovered and Ms. Clark is still missing, also believed to also be a victim of Randy Allen Taylor, currently serving a life sentence for Murphy’s kidnapping and murder.
Hannah Graham is described as 5’11 tall, with light brown hair and blue eyes. Police are asking anyone with information regarding her disappearance to call the Charlottesville Police Department at 434-970-3280 or CrimeStoppers at 434-977-4000.
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Of course, there is a presumption this was the work of a local yokel or a frat randy. But there is also a disturbing string of attractive intoxicated coeds that have just freakin’ disappeared at US campuses not much more separated than a day’s hard drive east of the Mississippi River. I mean young women who just vanished in the night never to be seen again. Until more is known, U.Va. / C-Ville better implement a buddy system if you leave campus at night. If they do not currently offer trained escorts, they need to. Fact – if an abducted female is not found within 36 hours, the odds of finding her alive shrink dramatically. I hope a C-ville police office somewhere is full of security camera video pulled from any location within a mile of this poor girl’s last sighting. Maybe the pings will further guide the video pulls. It’s not just a U.Va thing. It’s a community thing. There is a serialist that is free. He has been in C-ville and is linked to a murder in C-ville. He may or may not have shown his handiwork here but he is still out there.
if sketch is responsible for graham’s disappearance, and the sighting of sketch in lexington is valid, it would not be surprising that the got out of charlottesville while the heat was high.
You know, sketch was not released until July 2010- which imo, as you all already know was a few weeks after his DNA profile (comprehensive) and I think was a UGE mistake- and had more to do with a past accusation of profiling which actually proved to be a true suspect in a different case.
I think sketch was very safe in his hood for a while. Keep in mind- Morgan was tossed on that property with no attempt to conceal her. That is not someone who felt he would be tied to the land or the crime quickly, imo. That shows a level of planning and sophistication AND knowledge more associated with a serial offender and since we know that is true- he blends superfically at least.
B
This is one of those cases where it seems LE knows more than we do.
The sighting at W&L, at least to me, would be dubious without some supporting information. The composite sketch released by LE has a generic look and could trigger a lot of false sightings. The fact that W&L released this information suggests that there was more to this than a man who matched sketch’s description minding his own business on campus.
The text is extremely suspicious. If she was well intoxicated as described, I would expect a mangled text message, it is very hard to type a text on an android or iPhone while under the influence.
In the MH case, I have always felt that the events in and surrounding JPJ arena were not directly related to her disappearance and that she was just a vulnerable female who walked into the clutches of an opportunistic predator.
It is still too early so say the cases are definitively related. HG’s case could be related, or could be similar to the unsolved case of Lauren Spierer who apparently fell into the custody of fellow students and something bad happened. There are also frequently cases where drunk students fall into obscure places and are hard to find.
They have footage of her now on the downtown mall area at 1:00 a.m., so the neighborhoods near McGrady’s weren’t the issue. It seems very unlikely she got into a vehicle near McGrady’s. Seems like she was really turned around and walked in a big circle.
Right- could be a scent dog issue as well-
B
Seen on Shell Station video and at downtown mall police tell Parker Slaybaugh, newsman.
So the latest info is that she walked all the way down Preston Ave. to the downtown mall area. They have footage of her on foot from the camera at the shell station on Preston and Harris and then at the Citizens Commonwealth Center where Preston ends at Ridge/McIntire. That is the latest fotage they have found so far. She was in sight of the omni hotel/edge of downtown mall — unfortunately she was going further and further from where she wanted to get to (14th and wertland area). Those areas do have a fair amount of traffic though, so hopefully people will have seen where she went next.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Citizens+Commonweather+Center+Parking+Lot/@38.03273,-78.484014,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x89b386259d6d70ab:0xdecd6090f8e2022b
parking garage, very interesting.
B
IMO I think LE should look into tow truck drivers. SC met RT during a repo that she road along for. The night she disappeared she was planning on going on another one.
B – has LE checked the known friends of RT? He claims he didn’t kill AM but knows where her body is and that a black man killed her. Does RT have any ties to Fairfax?
Someone posted before that it was rumored Morgan had set up a ride. Then someone said that Hannah had set up a ride. Wouldn’t both girls have used their cell phones to set up these rides?
41) LCville
In reference to your question about the sighting being reported after this specific case, I was told last week by someone who reads the Morgan FB page, that Morgan’s story was run again on Most Wanted. Afterwards, a tip was called in on a possible sighting. I’m not sure if this could be the same one, but, maybe J.me would have more info on that and if there is accuracy to this? This would have been before the disappearance of Hannah.
The problem with sketch is he looks like a few hundred thousand AA males with no real specific attributes to set him apart. I cannot tell you how many leads I have received personally, and in some cases developed and passed on to LE that have a significant likeness to sketch- it’s just not enough to ID him specifically so the warning about his sighting in Lex is particularly interesting to me.
B
I can see her texting that she is lost rather than actually calling someone. Texting is the most normal means of communication to teens of all ages today. My daughter has said to me, I was trying to text you last night (while she was at a friends house). Why didn’t you answer? My reply was “do you know your home phone number???”
It brings on it’s own set of risks when you have your head down in a phone and not paying attention to your surroundings. Add in alochol and the time of night, this is the recipe for disaster.
I still can’t get the law enforcement, rent a cop, security, or police impersonator out of my head.
Nbc29 is reporting new surveillance video of Hannah at the shell station on preston ave at 12:55 am. Then a witness claims to have seen her turning from Market onto the downtown mall at 1:00 am. Witness was sitting in a car in front of Fellinis. My office used to be behind Fellinis—this is a very sketchy block after hours where bad things have happened. Even during the day we had vagrants come in—I once chased a guy out of our office suite when I was there by myself. He was noticeably high and very bold. Hannah’s path is really bizarre, much like Morgan’s was.
Blink says
“Dog track ended in front of McGrady and she got into a vehicle, absolutely.
The story of what happened will lie in the ping study between 12:46 and 1:20 AM
B”
Is this insider info from LE? In this article it states “Police did say a blood hound picked up Graham’s scent right outside the Irish pub; but where it led them, they’re not saying.
“I don’t want to get into any more details about the dog track, we’ve got things to follow up on,” said Police Capt. Gary Pleasants.
They’re (and everyone else is) making it sound like she walked away from the pub going in the wrong direction of her apt. Which is it?
http://wtvr.com/2014/09/17/police-now-think-hannah-grahams-last-text-listed-incorrect-location/
walked the wrong way- but no update on the dog scents- just keep in mind that canines that are properly trained and “scented” can be very effective- but we are talking about days later in a high foot traffic area. If it rained or had any fog conditions, it can happen a canine ability.
B
Can you explain how all these women’s disappearances have gone unsolved for so long. Are investigators trained differently, not trained for such crimes, ill equipped, do they give up or what? Surely similarities can be ruled in or out? It seems that often I read people phone in with leads and LE never follows up. How do you progress these types of crimes? Just off the top of my head, I think of Morgan, Jennifer, Holly and lame investigative work. Also, I don’t understand the Sketch sighting in Lexington? Do you actually believe that? If so was he on campus, frat party, football game – if everything is so unexplained, how the heck is the public to help in any way?
I cant explain what I do not understand myself.
My intel says that the sketch siting was a few weeks ago and was reported after Hannah went missing out of an abundance of caution. What makes me think it more credible than I originally thought is that it was not known publicly at the time that an AA male is in the footage, and CLEARLY loops around behind Hannah. I can’t tell, but it looks like either her reflection or he is also next to her at one point. We should all keep in mind these images are edited, and are on multiple mediums and highly subjective in context.
That said, it would be a sound LE strategy to downplay any possible association to sketch if there really is one, until he is identified- the chances are that the crimes to Ms. Graham have already been perpetrated, but LE would want to preserve the opportunity she may still be alive and concerned naming same would force an outcome.
B
Let’s assume based on the info we currently have that Hannah got into a car/was abducted in front of McGrady’s Pub (where the dog’s lost her trail) shortly after 12:45 am (when she was caught on McGrady’s security cameras walking east).
There is a Shell gas station located at 601 Preston Ave.– 0.4 miles east of McGrady’s Pub. This is the direction Hannah was heading when walking down Preston Ave. past McGrady’s. Video from the security tapes at this gas station should be checked for vehicles entering their parking lot and/or vehicles traveling eastbound on Preston between 12:45 and 1:00 am. The security cameras at gas stations frequently show portions of the road.
I also feel like this is the right direction to search if you consider that the eastbound lanes of Preston would allow a car to pull up alongside Hannah as she walked on the sidewalk (she didn’t have to cross the street which would have led to more sightings and attention attracted). This is also pretty much the exact opposite direction of the location provided in “Hannah’s” last text to her friends which Blink feels is a red herring.
Traveling eastbound on Preston, it’s extremely easy/convenient to get onto the highway. Continuing on Preston to Ridge Street/5th Street SW will get you to Route 64 in 7 minutes. Preston Ave. to Ridge St. to Monticello Ave. gets you to Route 64 in 10 minutes. A short drive west on 64 and you’re at Route 29. From the Rt. 64 on-ramp at 5th Ave., it takes 3 minutes to get to Route 29.
All businesses along these major roads should be saving their security footage from that night in case it can be examined for cars passing by.
Is catering still a part of the discussion regarding Morgan’s abduction?
If so, it’s worth noting that there is a catering company– Harvest Moon Catering– located at 946 Grady Ave., Ste. 11. This is next door to McGrady’s Pub, where Hannah was last seen. It has tons of positive feedback online and looks like a booming business.
I remember that there was a wedding or group of wedding guests around UVA on the night that Morgan was abducted. Is there any way to find out who catered that wedding?
http://i.imgur.com/nZmbhzy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/skaYYDc.jpg
I found this on WS. I do not know how to sleuth this but I know you do.
Allegedly someone resembling Morgan’s killer was seen in the area this week and reported days later.
I’m using Google streetview to “travel” down Grady Ave. and Preston Ave. and want to share what one would encounter if they were to walk directly past McGrady’s Pub traveling east, as Hannah is said to have done.
Grady Ave. is a one-way street heading eastbound. There is a sidewalk only on the south side of the street. One would first pass Harvest Moon Catering, a large operation, and then would pass McGrady’s Pub. Just past McGrady’s Pub Grady Ave. turns into Preston Ave. There is one streetlight where Grady Ave merges with Preston Ave. The light is located on the north side of Grady, across the street from the pub.
Preston Ave. is a 2-way, 4-lane boulevard-type of street. Eastbound lanes are separated from the westbound lanes by a grassy, tree lined median. There is no sidewalk along the median.
If one continued walking on the sidewalk past McGrady’s Pub, they would cross a small side street. Continuing, they must walk for about 300 feet past the unlit parking lots for Civic Autobody and Downtown Auto Sales. The next street light is near the front of ColorTyme. ColorTyme is followed by another unlit parking lot. The next street light is located by the next business, approximately 200 feet beyond ColorTyme.
My point is that there are many large open, empty areas where the parking lots lay, too few street lights located intermittently along one side of the divided street, and vast stretches of businesses that would have been dark and deserted at 1 am on a Saturday night. There are also connectors and cross-streets every so often making it fairly easy to make a U-turn on Preston Ave. This also makes it possible for a predator to “cruise a circuit” (drive in a repeated loop) on Preston Ave. circling around the dark, unpopulated areas looking for an opportunity.
Blink and all re dog track vs car vs seen at mall:
I dont think we can rule any scenario out at this point-
Did the dogs lose the scent and LE picked it up bcuz of video or di the dog remain w her scent until the mall?
in this article it says they have G station video of her running down preston ave
The Charlottesville Daily Progress
Police are reportedly expanding their search for missing University of Virginia student Hannah Graham onto the Downtown Mall and beyond after video cameras caught pictures of her running down Preston Avenue and onto the mall.
http://www.newsadvance.com/news/state/search-for-uva-student-hannah-graham-intensifies/article_562ed7cd-edb9-5870-8a6d-2a9c5838dd37.html
Police have reported that a video from cameras at the Preston Avenue Shell gasoline station show Graham running down the street. She was alone in the video. Another video camera caught her going onto the Downtown Mall.
Police are reportedly searching areas downtown including areas near the railroad tracks and areas near Garrett Street.
AJMO
Peace
About to do a news conference and release some video footage says Fox news right now.Something about her running at the Shell station.
Alright- I see it is at 4pm per NBC 29.
http://www.nbc29.com/story/26555344/police-continue-search-for-missing-uva-student
GeorgiaDad says:
September 17, 2014 at 10:49 am : The sighting at W&L, at least to me, would be dubious without some supporting information. The composite sketch released by LE has a generic look and could trigger a lot of false sightings. The fact that W&L released this information suggests that there was more to this than a man who matched sketch’s description minding his own business on campus.
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My thoughts exactly. There are hundreds of men in the area, I’m sure that fit the general parameters of the sketch. There must be more to this ‘sighting’. I’m wondering if it was an attempted lure, or something about the ‘sighting’ that potentially points to Sketch that we don’t know about. I hope LE gives out enough info so the community knows what to look for.
just a few thoughts: It looks like Hannah’s footwear in the pic from her apt. house wasn’t made for walking. She obviously walked a great distance. I am thinking that maybe she was just not too familiar with getting from Grady/Prescot “down” to her apt. near uva. Moreover, that area in between is pretty dark. Maybe she thought she would be better off in the somewhat well lit light of Prescot until she got the mall area. From the mall she could take the trolley for free back to the grounds. Or maybe she was just flying on an alcohol high and wanted something more down at the mall. She should not have been lost at all in vic. of 14th and Wertman – she was no rookie being a 2nd year. It maybe useful to know how she got to McGrays to begin with.
I wonder if he had a purse or somecarryall thingy. doesn’t look that way from the last pic. in the apt. bldg. Did she run out of money perhaps – was she looking for an atm machine on Prescot and beyond?
redly says:
September 17, 2014 at 11:40 am
So the latest info is that she walked all the way down Preston Ave. to the downtown mall area. They have footage of her on foot from the camera at the shell station on Preston and Harris and then at the Citizens Commonwealth Center where Preston ends at Ridge/McIntire. That is the latest fotage they have found so far. She was in sight of the omni hotel/edge of downtown mall — unfortunately she was going further and further from where she wanted to get to (14th and wertland area). Those areas do have a fair amount of traffic though, so hopefully people will have seen where she went next.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Citizens+Commonweather+Center+Parking+Lot/@38.03273,-78.484014,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x89b386259d6d70ab:0xdecd6090f8e2022b
parking garage, very interesting.
B
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Blink – It appears that the bank has surface lots only. No garage at the bank
sorry, Prescot = Preston, just stream of conscious typing
My guess is the sketch sighting is meaningless. The sighting was allegedly a couple of weeks old but just reported after news of Heather’s disappearance surfaced. I expect it is from one of those people who see sketch everywhere (or who simply make it up to be involved), and the news about Heather made w&l release the news to be on the extra cautious side.
Unfortunately, the cville city council in their wisdom didn’t let the police put cameras throughout the downtown mall so LE will be relying on businesses. If they had their own cameras there, they would probably be able to get a good idea of what happened in that location.
I’m really surprised a cop didn’t see her. That stretch of road–both Ridge and Preston–are pretty heavily patrolled. Even at that time of night. I’m even seen cops on horseback.
Josie says:
September 16, 2014 at 6:01 pm
Hi Blink,
It’s Josie…With Morgan, Alexis, Samantha, Sage and others, why can’t these kids heed the warnings that bad things do happen especially to girls and ladies who are alone?
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@Josie, I don’t know about all the other cases, but when an individual consumes a considerable amount of alcohol (and it is my understanding that she and her friends were drinking heavily) one’s judgment inevitably becomes impaired. What concerns me in Hannah’s case is that she seemed disoriented which suggests that her BAL was in a higher, possibly toxic range. So, I would hope LE is carefully searching all the buildings/parking garages/alleys in the area where she was last seen on video.
Grace- have you seen the videos of a white male following her as she seemed “in distress?”
She left the party she was attending with friends by herself- and it is my understanding that her consumption was a concern. I truly wish our young people could embrace the fact that friends do not let friends go anywhere alone in that condition.
B
Hannah was seen on video after McGrady’s…..
https://www.facebook.com/ParkSlaybaugh/photos/a.310762289068800.1073741825.148022182009479/511503295661364/?type=1&theater
Maybe this one is better:
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/09/new-sightings-of-missing-uva-student-hannah-elizabeth-graham-reported-107232.html
There is a tiered indoor parking garage on Market Street and one on Water Street. The Downtown Mall runs between and parallel to those two streets. From news reports as of now they are searching the water street garage area but I am thinking they are more than likely searching both garages and frankly, the entire area of the Downtown Mall. My understanding is the security video from the Shell Station shows her first walking then running and they have not reported video from the Mall yet but say someone sitting in a car on Market Street saw her turn off Market head down Second Street towards the Mall. I am hoping the news conference coming up will straighten out the various news reports. I am familiar with the area. We shop and eat at the Downtown Mall all the time and have for 40 years. It is a beautiful place and very popular with students and adults. Unfortunately, turns ugly after a certain hour. Prayers for this young lady.
https://twitter.com/NBC29/status/512326692455854080/photo/1
The Harrington’s have arrived for the 4PM news conf.
I can’t help but wonder if the “tip” that led to the warning about a possible sighting of sketch near Washington & Lee wasn’t coming directly from law enforcement? Perhaps they know the identity of the man who murdered Morgan, but don’t have enough evidence to pick him up for it. If they know his identity, however, it might be easier to keep tabs on his whereabouts. And his proximity to a college campus (where Greek life and partying are huge, and young women are around) deserved a warning. The warning could be given to both benefit the local college students who can, in turn, take more safety precautions, and also to spook Sketch and hopefully get him to move away from the area.
If they determined the identity of sketch he would be in custody, if not, there would be an active warrant. I do not believe they have identified him.
B
What happened to my last comment?
Jane, as comments are moderated they post, and this is a fast moving thread, you may have to click on most recent or go back at the bottom. All that I have for you are up.
B
I thought of Morgan as soon as I heard about this poor girl. There is definitely a serial predator/murderer in the area. I just hope and pray they catch him this time!
From a person posting on the Find Hannah Graham Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/FindHannahGraham
“Just a little upset with Charlottesville PD as I called the Monday night 9 p.m. to tell them I saw her Friday night into Saturday morning coming down 2nd street off of Market street. I called again yesterday to give them the same sighting of her. She was walking very fast as if she was in a hurry to meet someone or had to get somewhere pretty fast. She was stumbling a little. Charlottesville PD didn’t get in touch with me until late last night when I was asleep and didn’t hear the call. I called again early this morning and spoke with a sergeant. They should have had one person taking all calls for leads and relaying them to a head person or something. Valuable time wasted if you ask me. I hope and pray she is found safe.”
Upsetting. Time is of the essence.
B
Shell Station video looks as though she’s running and flagging someone down? Also, why didn’t she just go over to the gas station. Would LE know if her phone was still on/with her at that time?
I am beginning to think that Hannah was not drunk on alcohol, but on a drug that affected her orientation and the ability to think.
Shell Oil marketing learned sixty years ago that a well lighted station was good for business. If Hannah was thinking straight, she could have gone to the hotel or the shell station and gotten help.
Maybe this time, LE will engage the public in a more meaningful way than was done for Morgan. If Hannah is a second year student and only 18, she has to be smarter than the average student. Although this behavior does not indicate safety and street smarts.
Now it is sounding like her last known location (outside the erroneous text) was the downtown mall. Very concerning. On one hand there would be more people out and about on the mall than on the stretch of Preston she was seen on before, but at that hour of night there could definitely be a mix of characters on the mall and she would have stood out. Not as many sloppy undergrads on the mall than there would be back nearer to campus /the corner. It sounds like she turned onto the mall from market onto 2nd past Fellini’s then walked East on the mall (footage outside Tuel jewelers). Things get a bit sketchier the further east you go. I was waking home with my husband earlier that night from Fellinis and we walked by some hooligans rough housing near the downtown transit center. There are a lot of questionable characters that hang out around there where the buses come but there’s also often a police presence (in fact the police station is on the mall right near there). Worse is south east under the railroad tracks. I heard the police were searching at some point in that area, including Garrett street and the public housing back there.
Help Find Hannah Graham
24 mins ·
BREAKING: Charlottesville police say they have surveillance videos from Sal’s Restaurant – at 1:06 a.m. Saturday – and from Tuel Jewelers – at 1:08 a.m. – that show Hannah Graham walking on the downtown mall.
A man is seen walking in front of Graham. He then stops and is then seen walking behind her. Two minutes later, Graham is seen walking with another woman with the same man following them.
Police say the quality of those videos is poor, but they will release them Thursday.
They have footage from the downtown mall at 1:07 and 1:08 that show her apparently being followed by a white male.
Yes, and then in contact with an AA male- I think the salient point here is she was running.
Running from or running toward- I don’t know.
B
I can’t get this case out of my head. It’s been mentioned here and on the old MH boards that there may be a link between MH disappearance and transportation services i.e. limos, cabs… Thinking about it today I realized that pretty much everyone I know, myself included, uses Uber to get a ride these days. The thing is, even when sober, it’s easy to confuse a regular dark sedan (like say, a Towncar) for your Uber. Hearing that Hannah indicated she arranged a ride, then catching her on video running in what sounds like a generally straightforward direction, makes me wonder if she was trying to run to catch her Uber. Her running like that could have drawn perp’s attention. And it would be very easy for someone driving a dark, Uber-like sedan–like the ones used in limo services–to take advantage of the situation. I wonder how Uber tracks ride requests, even if the driver is never able to pick up the person who made the request. Would cell phone records indicate if Hannah had used an app like Uber to request a ride?
Another thing that makes me curious about the Limo/Hired Car idea is that there are Cville car services that offer service to IAD and DCA, which could be a connection to the MH perp’s first attempted attack in Fairfax. Just a thought. If I’m overlooking a ton of facts that make this idea unlikely, please let me know. This case is really bothering me. It’s just disgusting to have another innocent young cville woman missing like this!
They just announced on the Cville NBC29 11:00 news that a guy who was seen in surveillance tape following Hannah on the mall is talking to police. He said he was worried about her and was following her as she seemed impaired. Then an AA man came up to her, put his arm around her, and the other guy thought that this guy was helping her and left her.
I don’t know if this will be related to Morgan’s case- but the similarities are incredible,
B
where does Mall sighting fit in this sequence?
passionate professional le briefer is A+, imo
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/09/new-sightings-of-missing-uva-student-hannah-elizabeth-graham-reported-107232.html
Agree college age text, not phone.
LE Briefer would not comment on her texts,
so imo the usual for age.
Imo Charlottesville PD will solve.
They don’t have footage showing her with a black guy yet. They have the statement of the white guy who was seen following her that a mysterious black guy was with her. It may be true, but it is also the same excuse that randy Nelson used, and I suspect many other perps have used. The video is linked below. The shot at the very end sure looks like he was waiting on her and then followed her. It is creepy as heck. If she did meet up with another guy where he said, it will likely be on film. I hope they investigate this guy very hard.
I honestly see very little similarity so far to Morgan, other than the victim was an isolated, likely intoxicated college girl. The two sketch attacks appear to have been violent, surprise attacks.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=511722508972776
Sorry I said heather above when I meant Hannah.
Hopefully the second man will come forward if not hopefully they will release the footage so others can help identify him-
Either way LE needs to talk with him- and anyoneelse that came into contact with her
hopefully LE conts getting more vid of other businesses w other potential witnesses/encounters
Are there more businesses or was that the last shop in the area?
Is there video from other businesses that show her alone again or encountering others later ?
If last video shows her at the mall what happened during those 10 or so minutes between man with arm around her until she supposedly wrote a text claiming to be lost around 14th and Wd?
Is it easy to confuse the area around the mall with where her text claimed she was?
The more we know the more it doesnt seem to make sense
She was there then whoosh shes gone?
AJMo peace
I can’t get “kickee” out of my head. The helpful samaritan. I want to hurl.
With a daughter heading to college next Fall I will be reprising the role of Pepper Anderson at her campus. I can’t stand how vulnerable our babies are and continue to be in PREVENTABLE situations.
B
Holy sh%t balls
Sorry, what does “AA” male mean?
Never mind. It came to me as soon as I hit the send key. AA = African American yes?
yes
B
It seems strange to me that there have been a rash of unsolved missing persons cases in the last 5 years in the Charlottesville area. Has anyone ever considered the possibility that they are unsolved because the person committing the crimes is with LE? This would make sense as he would know the area and possibly even have control of the case to some degree. Just a thought.