Missing From UVA : Hannah Elizabeth Graham
Charlottesville, VA- Second year University of Virginia student Hannah Graham texted her friends last Saturday morning at approximately 1:20 AM- saying she was lost in the area of Wertland Street.
She has not been heard from since. According to Charlottesville Police Captain Gary Pleasants, it is believed Ms. Graham was intoxicated at the time of her disappearance and may have been on her way to a party but did not arrive.
In recently released images of Graham leaving her apartment at approximately 9:30PM Friday evening, she is shown wearing black skinny pants and a gold and black mesh crop-top, beige shoes or sneakers.
Ms. Graham’s disappearance is not related to a 2013 teen runaway from Indiana with the same name.
The disappearance of Ms. Graham comes on the heels of the recently adjudicated murder trial of Alexis Murphy , the disappearance on the same date as Ms. Graham in 2010 of Samantha Clark and of the course the unsolved murder of Morgan Harrington, who disappeared from John Paul Jones arena in October 2009 and later found murdered in January 2010 on Anchorage Farm in Albemarle County.
In Ms. Harrington’s case, the DNA profile and sketch of the suspect in her murder as well as a rape in Fairfax county in September 2005 was released, but he has not been identified by name or captured.
Harrington Murder Suspect Sketch
Ms. Murphy’s remains have never been recovered and Ms. Clark is still missing, also believed to also be a victim of Randy Allen Taylor, currently serving a life sentence for Murphy’s kidnapping and murder.
Hannah Graham is described as 5’11 tall, with light brown hair and blue eyes. Police are asking anyone with information regarding her disappearance to call the Charlottesville Police Department at 434-970-3280 or CrimeStoppers at 434-977-4000.
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Once the names of person(s) being interviewed are released, can you capture their Facebooks.
I hope they have this description from more people than just the white guy. She is walking with someone else in the second video (where white guy is still trailing behind her).
Redly I completely agree- but something about this response and candor ( from this jurisdiction and the fact that VSP is not lead) makes me want to have faith.
The wanton disassociation- does that make sense?
B
I agree Blink. I wonder if he had a girlfriend that was white that he had ‘issues’ with in the fall time. This time of year sets him off where he cannot control himself.
I do agree the older white man is peculiar. He acted undercover or up to something. So where did bald dude join the scene I wonder??
Gee, I think I have a picture of that guy somewhere. And I understand there is a reward of $50,000. Sounds like if someone turns him in, they could solve two cases at once and probably reap $200,000 in reward.
I am praying she is alive somewhere….oh please…
The disassociation was on full display during the press conference yesterday. Go Longo, go!
This video/update indicates there is NO video of the new person of interest. Short interview with Pleasants. Also, looks like the students painted the wall- lol- huh, I wonder how that went over?
http://wtvr.com/2014/09/18/hannah-graham-new-security-video/
If you look at the video of the dreadlock guy walking and making a uturn, he ends up in the middle of a group of guys walking. If you look at the clear video at the jewelry store, you will see him with her walking with his arm around her. The white guy will follow behind then you will see the group of guys and this dreadlock guy is NOT in that group anymore. He is walking with her. I hope the description didn’t come from this guy that they questioned.
“Police have issued a statement to say the black man shown walking with Hannah Graham in video footage released by police has been ruled out of their missing persons inquiry.
The man, seen in the video who has dreadlocks and is wearing three-quarter length trousers, has already been interviewed by detectives.
A spokesman for Charlottesville Police Department said: ‘We already know who the black man in the video is and he has spoken with officers.
‘He has been ruled out of the inquiry.
‘He has nothing to do with Hannah’s disappearance.’
Police have however released a description of a different black man seen with Hannah that they are desperately trying to trace.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2760793/Hunt-mystery-man-seen-arm-missing-UVA-student-police-release-new-surveillance-footage-showing-teen-followed-stumbled-deserted-mall.html
I saw somewhere that her phone pinged at Wertland but not downtown. Could that just mean it was off or battery was dead?
a ping is a ping subject to cell tower location and trajectory + phone type.
B
The video does seem to show the AA w/dreds circling back after passing Sal’s and slotting himself into the back of a passing group to move in the direction of Hannah. Behind WM who had paused then followed Hannah.
Based on the Tuel video it does seem that dreds manages to pass WM, reaching Hannah and walking with her. Why would PD state that there is no one there and it is her reflection? Perhaps it is – there not a very long distance between Sal’s and Tuel. Based on the pace at which Hannah is walking, dreds would have had to have walked very fast/run to move past the group behind Hannah to pass WM and catch up with her by Tuel.
I am very confused though about a third person now in the mix who does not meet description of dreds. POI actually sounds more like WM (white shirt, black jeans, beer belly and shaved head) other than obviously race.
I`m not buying for a minute that any man following a young woman on her own at 1am is doing so for her benefit only. He was looking to exploit her at the very least, hanging around doorsteps with seemingly no hurry to get anywhere in particular. What made him concerned enough to be creeping behind a young woman, which he has now admitted to doing? If his concern was genuine, he is a valuable witness and his eagerness to come forward can be seen as very helpful because it suggests he witnessed something important, other than leaving Hannah where he last saw her. This could also be a fabricated story because this man knew he would`ve been on camera creeping. Either way I believe the person responsible for Hannah`s disappearance is on that video at the mall.
Ok…so everyone seems familiar with a possible perp, who may have been chasing Heather.
The key points (wrt the profile of the possible perp), that struck me about were the weight (sketch has a full face), facial hair/ goatee, BLACK, and height. However, iF this guy is as heavy as they’re implying on HLN, he’s no Usain Bolt AND AND AND….dude’s gotta a beer gut to boot. How the H E double hell is he able to keep up with a young, adrenaline charged woman who’s running for her life and can no doubt ‘out last’ fatty fatterson? Do I have any business posting here, today? Probably not.
My apolies.
Personally, I think this is the best lead (unfortunately, at the expense of another young life) to Morgan’s killer. Something in the VA water that’s making young women victim’s of similar crimes. If it is him, he’s taking more chances….and if it is him, he’s gonna slip up big time.
Just my humble opinion….and prayers that Heather is hiding, alive, safe. Please keep her in your prayers <3
Apparently dreads guy is reasonably well known to folks who work on the mall. I read he might be somewhat challenged and takes it on himself to look out for people on the mall.
Watching the surveillance videos earlier, as they get closer to the time of the last cell phone action was really scary and nightmarish. It’s like feeling like you’re there running through the nightmare with her. Extremely hard to watch. Blink, while we can be pretty sure that the white guy following her isn’t Kickee, I still was right there with you. As I watched, that is exactly who and what I thought of. Just something about the moment, the creepy freakiness of both situations, I guess. I know they now have the white guy’s description of the black guy. Also, LE says the black guy isn’t on the videos so far. I was really hoping they would be able to get more but I guess they didn’t since nothing else has been released. Has anybody heard why they’ve moved the search closer to the river? Anything that made them think she may have gone that direction?
Miss B,
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I have been saying this for nearly 5 years now- this suspect (sketch) will have some mobile access or component to his work and I dare say, is the method by which the attack on Morgan and God forbid Hannah take place. I believe that 1000%.
B
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That’s why you’re the queen of your own blog! Your assessment and ability to remain relative to details is really cool. My mind would implode if all that detail was in storage.
I just want to enter a thought….there was discussion, after morgan was found that it’s possible ‘sketch’ had help disposing Morgan. Have we ruled out gang or connections to a gang, that would enable ‘sketch’ or ‘dreads’…or whomever is the pig dog? Is is thinkable that disposing of Morgan could have been conducted by a second or third party (don’t ask; don’t tell; just do) or a ‘can you do me a solid? Multiple players on different playing fields, could throw off this investigation. Maybe sketch dreads does not have the mobility; another diversion. He’s demonstrated the skill to manipulate the course and direction of investigation (Morgan’s t- shirt, for example).
OR…..should I just stick with my faith and pray for Heather, her family and friends. <3 That's an honour for me, God bless their hearts.
Hello MOM3.0 and ODE!!! Miss and love you guys! Hope y'all had a great summer xo
PS….I apologize if my posts don't make sense. I'm running on very little sleep; one thing after another;…but most importantly, just learned my sweet momma has breast cancer. The good news is that is was caught very early. Prayers would be very much appreciated, from my BOC family.
God bless y'all! <3
Ragdoll- I lift your Mum up this evening and know you will give her strength and power as she fights her disease.
xo FriendLY
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I still say use the buddy system, always, after dark, whether drinking or sober, young or old, male or female, it’s better to lose a little independence than to lose a life. It’s nice to look out for friends too, if they are in a situation where they may not make the best choices. Most of us have been there. And most of us can recall a situation where things could have turned out with a bad ending, but for the grace of God and a good friend.
Not ready to discuss it, not sure if I ever will, but I began this work in a case that was a clear and distinct buddy system epic fail. It will never leave me.
B
C-ville PD or OGA will already have her cell phone tower/ping data from that night/morning. In urgent cases like this police can file an exigent circumstances request and get the info in near real time. It might take longer to pull all the other tower data, but they surely by now will already have hers. Police have to pay like everyone else to get it, but they do get it very quickly in cases where there is a life at risk.
Agreed Redrock, but I have seen cases where a mp who is 18 or over and has a phone in their own name take longer to comply with a warrant. I don’t know if that is the case here, but I agree with you those results were produced and have created the walk and talks at the mall.
B
On a 5’10″-11″ frame, you’d expect to have more than just a “slight beer belly” at 250-285 lbs.
I wonder if a composite sketch is in the works?
Blink, do you think LE is giving out some misinformation to mess with a bad guy. Some of the things that are being announced don’t seem to add up.
Quite honestly Redly I don’t know for certain- I do agree with you ( if this is your basis) that dreads do not add up to a bald head in the same time frame. That in itself has a host of inquiry from me-
ie: is the intimation the suspect has changed his appearance, has “dreads” been ruled out, is the aforementioned associated with the victim, etc, etc-
I frequently get hosed on this concept- and I say that respectfully- but for right now- LE is on point as far as I know. Subject to change, but I pray for the sake of Hannah’s memory and of course the burden to her family they are further than one thinks.
B
So, only the white guy who was following Hannah saw the AA male? Does anyone know when white guy came forward? Before or after mention of video images? My understanding is that the alleged AA POI was not seen on any of these videos, correct?
Anyone notice the time Hannah was allegedly seen with AA is right before her “I’m lost…” text?” If she did not send the text, why would the person who may have taken her send that type of text or any text for that matter? Does anyone know if her friends went looking for her in that area after the text?
Why are you adamant about age being at least around 35 and not as described?
Because it is absolutely subjective and I do not want anyone to think they know this guy but preclude their “call in” because they know or suspect someone’s age that may be incorrect or not in the profile. We are talking about witness accounts at 1 am-ish.
B
For those of you wishing to help with the search for Hannah Graham, it is mandatory for all registered searchers to attend the Friday night briefing at 7pm JPJA.
This article claims the AA male was seen on video; no other reports I have read have mentioned that he was on video.
http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/reward-offered-for-information-in-graham-case-person-of-interest/article_0fdd71ec-3ee0-11e4-97d8-0017a43b2370.html
Grace- I think the disparity is that there appears to be 2 different descriptions of AA males. The POI version, in my view, does not match the video of the man with “dreads”.
LE has not really explained that the POI named is more than the witness account of the W/M seen following Hannah.
B
mosaic says:
September 18, 2014 at 11:57 am
I’m having a hard time believing the account of the guy who’s visibly following her.
If he was sincerely concerned for her, why didn’t he report seeing her IMMEDIATELY on Tuesday when her picture was headline news in Charlottesville?
He was following her to help her, and two days later when her face is in the news he’s no longer there to help?
Not believing it.
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@Mosiac, Until we know more, I have the same suspicions. You know that LE is searching through his stuff with a fine toothed comb.
Keeping Hannah’s family and friends in my thoughts.
Hoping and praying they find this new poi, got to get his dna,is it sketch,i think its possible.he’s back! Fri the 13th. I think sketch is always on the lookout for a girl in distress.i think he skips town .i had to take a break from true crime. But this was real “breaking news” on cnn today.the timeline and direction of movement, seem off, she was walking the whole time ,the Italian restaurant was after the gas station video of her running?as least this time she is on video, it dosent seem to me that she was near the mall, when she was last seen , so if the poi ,who is not dreadlocks, was seen talking to her at the mall ,he followed her in his car, from the mall? And if he was at the mall seems plenty of footage to find him there .he and his car should be on footage somewhere. But I guess I gotta do my Google map homework-the text ‘I’m lost” doesn’t fit with directions does it? Any way I hope we hear more soon ,
Or a metallic crop top shows up on a bush. I
brings back what happened to Morgan
You KNOW you did! Please update me, I would love to be able to potentially promote something like that.
B
Ragdoll says:
September 18, 2014 at 7:30 pm
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Prayers for your momma and your family, Ragdoll. 2 4 1
Redly, you make a good point about people being regulars on the mall. There are many who hang out at the mall all the time and are known to folks who work there and to the cville police who are on the mall routinely. When I saw the video with dreadlocks guy and friends, I thought that they were likely to be easily identifiable by police and easy to locate. What concerns me is that the poi is not a regular and was able to fade into the woodwork….again. cville is small enough to recognize people that you bump into frequently but big enough for someone to blend in quietly for years. I mentioned the serial rapist here in an earlier post. Raped 7 women over 10 years and was onky caught when one of the victims saw him working at harris teeter. He had been there in plain sight all along but it took time for their paths to cross and the identification made. I think the same phenomenan is occurring here.
https://www.facebook.com/FindHannahGraham/photos/a.712238528846398.1073741830.711448445592073/713093672094217/?type=1&theater
Executing 2 search warrants.
car & home
Hessian Hills Apts, they are outside # 164.
http://www.hessianhillscondos.com
Search warrant being executed at apartment complex in Charlottesville this morning.
http://www.wtop.com/120/3704418/Police-seek-man-seen-with-Graham
Jane says:
September 18, 2014 at 4:34 pm
Once the names of person(s) being interviewed are released, can you capture their Facebooks.
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Hopefully LE won’t release the names of any individuals they have interviewed. I know if I were an individual who witnessed a crime and had nothing to do with it, I would not want the public invading my privacy at all. It’s different when individuals come forward into the public on their own after being interviewed. We saw this most recently in the Erin Corwin case. JMO
Correction- defiantly dont think the above mentioned apts are those in question.
Reading here since fellow hokie Morgan Harrington’s disappearance. Heartbreaking that another young lady is missing. Just saw this news story that a search warrant was issued for an apartment where Hannah was believed to have last been seen.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/search-warrant-missing-university-virginia-student-hannah-graham/story?id=25621541
Sorry- not meaning to be a hog. But I am wondering if this was vacant.
http://www.sloanmanis.com/real-estate/homes-for-sale/
And if so- how did this guy know that? Makes one think of the vacant Red Hill home.
Ragdoll
Have faith regarding your mom. The fact that the Dr.’s caught it early is significant. Mrs. ATG is a survivor of that disease, so I know it can be defeated. I will add your mom to my daily prayers.
xoxo
http://wtvr.com/2014/09/19/hannah-graham-apartment-search/
Police are searching apartment and car.
hmm interesting- that Redly said- dude in dreads is well known at the mall which may explain why he high-fived those women in the video (bottom left corner before he crosses to walk behind group of guys). If he was up to something shady he would not be drawing attention to himself by slapping hands with mall walkers.
I also read this on Reddit from a UVA student – that dreadlocks dude is a ‘fixture’ at the mall and LE spoke to him.
Maybe this was the scenario- Dreads saw her alone with the W/M following her so he raced to catch up to her asking if she was ok- she’s creeped out so she says yes, ‘she’s meeting someone’, ‘going to catch the trolly’, or something to that sort so he lets her continue on only for W/M to keep stalking her (yes, it really looks like he is stalking) or this dubious “POI” to swoop in next. So disturbing.
Sounds like LE is onto something though with the search warrants. Hoping for a miracle.
I am sure there are a bunch of posts on this in the queue but sounds like that have made a major advance in the case. A recently returned soldier heard a woman scream off the downtown mall that Saturday morning and when he moved to investigate the van where it came from a black male attacked and stabbed him. He is still in hospital. Details from that incident led them to the van and then to the apartment they are searching now. Unfortunately it sounds like the residents vacated before the police moved in. They won’t be able to hide for long. Sounds like this is a pretty strong lead. If so, heartbreaking to imagine how close Hannah may have been to being saved by this person and I hope he is okay.
I am confused Redly, my intel says that incident was in July 2013?
B
Hope this isn’t a hoax ?need to hear some statements from her friends ,who reported her missing.is she carrying a purse?
Ragdoll – Miracles do happen. Will pray for your Mom. My hubby was diagnosed with Esophageal Cancer Stage 3 tumor last Fall – had been misdiagnosed thinking it was related to his advanced Parkinsons Disease. Long story short, he completed major radiation, no chemo (because of PD) and is not only now cancer free but has regained all his weight (30 pounds) and looks great.
blink — please delete my prior post. The incident I was referring to was in 2013. I got overly excited when I read the article.
They still do seem to think they have made major progress though.
That’s ok- I already moderated it asking you that question, lol, but I would also like to know more about that incident specifically.
B
The PC for the search will be in the affidavit, which will not be released until police have more of a handle on the chain of events.
These units are not cheap section 8 housing and have a pretty aggressive property manager and an association, so presumptively, you would not have some of the issues one would encounter in more affordable housing. Appears to be a mix of students and grad students in these units as well as some more established folks.
If she were going to a party, as some have suggested, this might figure in to that, especially if she got into a vehicle. I do not think all of the CCTV video has been made public.
At least CPD does not seem paralyzed, unlike the plodding, ponderous VSP effort for MH.
Blink:
For your consideration —
Albemarle County Property records show that the most recently purchased unit at 164 Hessian Hills way was purchased by April Bly-Monnen, the wife of a convicted felon, Charles Bly, who went to jail and spent 3 years on supervised probation for threatening UVA and several of its professors. He would clearly have a bone to pick with UVA and might want to tarnish its reputation, though he doesn’t seem to have had any other offenses.
One of the other units is owned by a grad student who doesn’t match any applicable description and the other two units must be rentals, being owned by a woman who lives elsewhere in the county.
The POI is definitely AA, and neither of those folks. I have a name, I am withholding it until I can confirm.
B
This is the 2013 article blink. Likely not related.
http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/Police-Investigate-Stabbing-Near-Downtown-Mall-on-Saturday–216511011.html
For up to hour/min re: Hannah Graham disappearance info I’ve been following. Mobile command force now outside apartment that they’re searching.
https://twitter.com/NBC29
I think they are searching an apartment in this complex. It look like there are dozens of apartments there. They aren’t fancy.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/100+Hessian+Hills+Way,+Charlottesville,+VA+22901/@38.0611818,-78.5059401,709m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x89b387bb83ac49a1:0xdd5564140f8735e5
Yes, building 164
B
Some new info here — http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/missing-uva-teen-spent-hours-before-disappearance-with-friends/2014/09/19/b425aab8-4001-11e4-b03f-de718edeb92f_story.html?Post+generic=%253Ftid%253Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost
article with info on the person who lives in the apartment
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2762538/Police-announce-big-break-hunt-missing-teen-Hannah-Graham-search-car-apartment-complex.html
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“According to neighbors, a man described as ‘black with dreadlocks’ lives in the apartment being searched by police hunting for Hannah Graham.
Harry Wilson, a butcher, told MailOnline: ‘a big black dude with dreadlocks lives in that apartment. He has a pit bull dog. I’ve seen him walking around.
‘He drives a copper color car which has been taken away. I have never seen him go to work. The police were here this morning when I got up at 7 am.’
Another neighbor added: ‘A black man who is in his 20s lives in that apartment. He drives an orange coloured two-door car, a Dodge Stratus, I think.’”
Back to the dreadlocks and not the shaved head- or are the dreads a hair piece?
B