Missing From UVA : Hannah Elizabeth Graham
Charlottesville, VA- Second year University of Virginia student Hannah Graham texted her friends last Saturday morning at approximately 1:20 AM- saying she was lost in the area of Wertland Street.
She has not been heard from since. According to Charlottesville Police Captain Gary Pleasants, it is believed Ms. Graham was intoxicated at the time of her disappearance and may have been on her way to a party but did not arrive.
In recently released images of Graham leaving her apartment at approximately 9:30PM Friday evening, she is shown wearing black skinny pants and a gold and black mesh crop-top, beige shoes or sneakers.
Ms. Graham’s disappearance is not related to a 2013 teen runaway from Indiana with the same name.
The disappearance of Ms. Graham comes on the heels of the recently adjudicated murder trial of Alexis Murphy , the disappearance on the same date as Ms. Graham in 2010 of Samantha Clark and of the course the unsolved murder of Morgan Harrington, who disappeared from John Paul Jones arena in October 2009 and later found murdered in January 2010 on Anchorage Farm in Albemarle County.
In Ms. Harrington’s case, the DNA profile and sketch of the suspect in her murder as well as a rape in Fairfax county in September 2005 was released, but he has not been identified by name or captured.
Harrington Murder Suspect Sketch
Ms. Murphy’s remains have never been recovered and Ms. Clark is still missing, also believed to also be a victim of Randy Allen Taylor, currently serving a life sentence for Murphy’s kidnapping and murder.
Hannah Graham is described as 5’11 tall, with light brown hair and blue eyes. Police are asking anyone with information regarding her disappearance to call the Charlottesville Police Department at 434-970-3280 or CrimeStoppers at 434-977-4000.
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I take that back. I didn’t see that he was 32. Were the same age and I know what I was doing in 2005 as I put it on my resume. So, he would not have been too young back then.
If this guy is innocent, it sucks for him because he’s being googled all over the place. This is the 4th girl in the area to vanish. People are scared, tired and wanting the POS caught.
Girls in Charlottesville should be (and should have been) VERY careful as there’s a dangerous, serial predator out there!!! Guys should be too.
Do the authorities have any eye witnesses that seen Hanah get into poi’s car?
Not commenting on that but I believe they do.
B
I can only imagine how scary it would’ve been if there was a serial predator in my college town when I was in school. Especially if the university (similar size to UVA) had done nothing to warn us. This beyond infuriates me. There should have been billboards around campus. I am SO MAD!!!!!
I guess his Grandma misspoke when she said he attended Christopher Newport? Or, MailOnline did, but it appears as was mentioned above he was in football at Liberty. I wonder why he didnt play in 2003? Injury?
Charlottesville, Va.
Season 2000, season 2001, 2002,
Jesse Matthew
Class: Freshman
Position: DL
Height: 6-2
Weight: 215
http://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm?pid=10871&teamID=9&seasonID=45
Oh, and hello to everybody..nice to see you all. Prayers to your Moma Ragdoll. I know she will heal well, you will see to that I know!!
While we keep an open mind, video shows he reversed directions when he saw her, followed her, put his hands on her body, took her into a luxe bar, and bought alcohol. In a seamless behavior stream, one woukdn’t expect affirmative (following, touching, directing, further imbibing with an underage stranger) to abruptly truncate upon existing Tempo.
I missed today’s press conference but sounds like they are waiting on dna, hair, fiber, etc. And now an arrest warrant for reckless driving which when executed may allow them to hold him long enough for forensic work to be done.
Yes Dr Pepper……praying, praying, praying
The press conference that just wrapped up was stellar. Chief Longo made a very effective and affecting plea for public information and emphasized the community aspect of all of this. Apparently Mr. Matthew was seen driving recklessly, eastbound, with someone in the car about 15 min after he left the police station, where he had spent an hour telling them nothing they didn’t already know (in the presence of an attorney they found him at his request). The last two days’ community search was 1000+ people and turned up many items that the Dept of Emergency Mgmt will now sift through. Chief Longo wants to hear from any eyewitnesses who saw Hannah and Jesse Matthew that night when they left the Tempo Restaurant together, and wants to hear from anyone who saw the orange car that night around that time. He hopes to hear back from the lab at least by tomorrow regarding evidence from the car and the Hessian Hills apartment. Hannah’s parents took the podium and her father made a very good case for everyone helping to bring home his sweet daughter – who spent a week last spring rebuilding houses in Tuscaloosa. Her mother’s silent pain was palpable. It is hard to imagine dry eyes or anyone ignoring this chorus of pleas for information about this “sweet girl” as Chief Longo called her.
Longo needs to dial it back a notch.
I really like him, but investigatively- I have to agree. At least in regards to today’s pressconf.
Subject to change positively on my behalf- I am familiar with zero to hero and the reverse.
B
@eloise, I think he may have gone to both CNU and Liberty. He was on both football rosters I found online.
Wow…just, wow, Eloise! This guy DOES know Lynchburg and the areas around Liberty. That really jumped out at me with respect to Ms. Morton. Nice find.
I have to say what an effective spokesperson and officer of the law Chief Longo is. I am as reassured as I am impressed. I’m so glad that the Grahams came to the podium today also. They were brave and graceful under the WORST circumstance imaginable for parents.
I’m super proud of Cville LE and the community at large over this. Lots of work to do, but a stupendous collaborative effort thus far. The Grahams, Murphys, Clarkes, and the dear Harringtons are in my thoughts and prayers tonight. Unfortunately, I could go on as I should mention the Santiagos and the family missing their lived one missing from Scottsville!
So Mr. Matthews just sped away from the police station. Don’t suppose they just asked him to provide a DNA sample?
Covert vs. Overt observation….hmmm when JLM left the police station sure sounds like to me he means no GPS on the car. Was this a subtle reference to Randy Taylor?
Wvtf.org has a story today confirming that poi was a taxi driver before going to work at the hospital. He looked very different in the picture taken of him with his cab in 2007. The puzzle pieces are trying to fit together…time will tell.
I would bet there is a closely shaven head BM who had on black jeans and a white t-shirt involved in some way and if not another stalker dude that may have acted weird that night.
Ragdoll, so sorry about your mom. Hug her, make her laugh and be her warrior. We know you have the heart! My prayers are with you both.
Ode
870 black cat Rd ,yes Keswick ,http://www.spokeo.com/reverse-address-search/search/870+Black+Cat+Rd,+Keswick+VA+22947. Nice neighborhood ,this house goes for 200k ish others go for a million ish.i wonder if he grew up in this house .
Is there a way to find out the details behind the multiple trespassing charges that show up for POI?
Sorry, I think the trespassing charges may be for Jesse Matthew SR but regardless, is there a way to see case details beyond the info provided in the VA Judicial Case Search?
Ok so he is confirmed as the taxi driver.
http://wvtf.org/post/person-interest-named-charlottesville-investigation
Dr. Pepper
I share your frustration and anger at the lack of notice to the public and in particular the students at UVA. My take is that the University does not wish to post such information for fear that it will cause a lot of parents to not send their girls to the school.
However, there are two groups operating at UVA that could make a difference. They are “Take Back the Night” and “Help Save the Next Girl”. They should have already made efforts to post notices on paid commercial billboards and on private notice boards throughout the area.
Knowledge is a part of the power to prevent one from becoming a victim of crime.
Some have questioned the age of the POI regarding the 2005 case. As a male who grew up early, I know what a teen could do. At 13 I stood as tall as I am today and could lift 200 plus lbs with hands as quick as a professional boxer. There have been many cases where teens have overpowered women and raped them and sometimes caused their death.
This POI was a football player in High School. High School football players of today train extensively with weights. The weight rooms of high school gyms of today are as complete as those found in professional sports.
Someone also posted that the POI worked for UVA and sometimes supplemented his income by driving a taxi. That could also mean that he was also driving a private car for one of the limo agencies in the area. A guy that weighed 215 lbs in high school could easily gained fifty lbs or more in fourteen years and still be agile.
Hanna is reported to be 5’11″ tall. A young woman of that height would weigh between 150 to 170 lbs and not be overweight. The photos of Hanna with the clothing worn the night of her disappearance indicate to me she could be 160 to 165 lbs. This is very manageable for a guy like the POI.
This is leading up to my thinking that the POI may be just a procurer for a human trafficking ring operating in and along the I-64/hwy. 29 corridor in Virginia.
A guy that follows a young woman alone and then takes control walking her to a late operating bar, buying additional alcohol for a minor (a crime)and then leads her out of the bar to a vehicle does not in my opinion have honorable intentions. Very suspect.
The police have a warrant out for his arrest at the present time for reckless driving, but they have ignored the crime of furnishing alcohol to a minor at a public bar. Why?
Curious about this cab thing, RAT claimed he took a cab from Applebee’s back to Nelson on Aug 3, 2013.
Disregard my last comment. I found the link and the cab driver testified that he dropped him off 3 miles from his house b/c he wanted to walk.
I knew I remembered something about a cab.
http://www.wncn.com/story/25416362/commonwealths-attorney-reveals-forensic-evidence-in-randy-taylor-trial
Coy Barefoot @coybarefoot · 19m
#BREAKING #HannahGraham sources tell me police now in negotiations to arrange for Jesse Matthew to turn himself in #Happeningnow
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According to Chief Longo, Matthew is wanted at this time on two Class 1 misdemeanor warrants for reckless driving, which occurred late
Coy Barefoot
@coybarefoot
yesterday (Saturday 20th) afternoon as he eluded police. It is unconfirmed at this time but he may also be arrested for additional
Coy Barefoot @coybarefoot · 18m
charges related to buying/serving alcohol to someone who is under-aged (possibly #HannahGraham night she disappeared)
https://twitter.com/coybarefoot
Eloise, found an article that answers both of your questions… Looks like he played for a season at Christopher Newport in 2003
http://articles.dailypress.com/2003-09-05/sports/0309050022_1_cnu-defensive-spot
http://www.nbc12.com/story/26588546/charlottesville-police-chief-longo-we-want-to-talk-to-jesse-matthew
At 24:40, they do have JM on video with Hannah after they left the restaurant.
A minute before, it was stated that his current location is unknown; they will arrest him when they locate him. Assistance is asked to the four corners of the nation.
Blink
Are we thinking that dreads and sketch are the same person?
Not ripe, if potentially ripe.
B
If I were working this case for LE, there would be a big effort to identify any of his family, friends or business associates that live in the North Garden area. This would include the communities just South of there as well. There is the possibility that more than one crime could be solved if some connections are found.
If the POI’s auto comes up clean, it could be because he knows how to detail it so that the interior is as clean as when it left the dealer lot. That is a three or four hour job, but he had plenty of time to get it done.
He may have transported Hannah, but I doubt that he would take the chance of taking her to his apartment building.
@ATG, Hannah’s missing poster says she is 5’11″ and weighs 130 lbs. She is a very slender young woman.
One wonders whose car
Matthews speed off in on Saturday.
Longo said he came in with relatives, so I presume one of theirs.
B
@ATG.
wrt “but they have ignored the crime of furnishing alcohol to a minor at a public bar. Why?”
Sorry to be flip ATG but likely a signifigant political donor or businessman in the State has an
investment interest in Tempo or just likes the owner of same.
- If he is the culprit- then all of the videos etc should be used against him in a court of law-
Having said that-
Yes he did seem to turn and seek out Hannah – yes it seems he must have rushed to catch up with her- but when they are walking together she does not seem to be in distress she seems to have willingly accompanied him-
She is 18 years old an adult- if she wishes to accompany a 32 year old man or woman that is her adult choice thats not against the law
Did the POI know Hannah was only 18? Are we sure he supplied her with alcohol?
I realize that the daily mail has an interview with grandma- they also quote LE saying the POI was interviewed and has nothing to do with Hannahs disappearance-
Is the Daily Mail trustworthy? Is LE- Is the witness who gave description of bald guy?
In Grandma interview she heard from his mom that POI bought her drinks- but can we be sure the POI said this did this or knew Hannah was only 18 when he did?
Someone else gave Hannah alcohol earlier in the night- another man is on video following her waiting for her and then following some more
Following her- hanging out with her- drinking with her
Does not have to = culprit…it may- but what makes LE so sure he is the guy- Just because he is in video which makes it seem like he was the last to see her?
There has to be more.
IDK there were 2 sexual assaults- one beating in and around the area Hannah was last texting about 14th and WD- Sketch who is connected to 2 cases one in Charottesville- was seen in VA-in the weeks before Hannah went missing and the warning only went out after she went missing
Is the POI the culprit in all of them?
What I mean is isnt it a little early – no forensics ETc to be b inciting the public to believe this is the guy at the same time claiming you dont have tunnel vision?
I mean Longo actually said he hopes to find evidence on LW- shouldnt he wait for the evidence and then go after LW in the press and in a court of law?
He may be the guy and if he is yeah come at him with everything you got…but if hes innocent and they came at him like this…
and what does Longos stance and words do for a defense if he is the BG? It seems Longos tactics and speech may harm then too.
I am worried how all this is playing out. How did they rule out watch guy- or Sketch or the persons who carried out the assaults in the area that night as POIs?
I share Blink and redrocks concerns over the press conference and I am worried about what a defense will do with the seeming rush to judgement and I am worried over the possibility it may not be this POI
I am worried LE have tainted any eye witnesses coming forward with the release of too much info- the videos (his description) and with the release of his apt and the release of his car and the release of the time period their looking to narrow- and the release of specifically what they “need” someone to say they saw them together during that time in his car which was parked near___ etc etc
What has been held back to secure any IWitness statements given are true and accurate?
im worried for Hannah shes out there what if LE are on the wrong track or have made it impossible to prosecute the Bad guy because they seem too eager to flog him right now in a public venue even before the forensics are back..
AJMO Peace
Hello all!
God bless and prayers to you! Many of us have been together from Scared Monkeys since nice lady Holloway was killed.
It is so good to see so many familiar names still doing Good Works.
Fairfax County and Charlottesville are dear to my heart. I taught gifted students in Fairfax County and traveled extensively in Albemarle County years ago. Nice people and beautiful areas.
Haven’t been here or SM for last few years, as have been doing research on newly found, early relatives (about 1745 on) in Albemarle and Rockbridge Counties–the Wallaces and the Woods. They were very active in the Albemarle, Rockbridge Militias, VA State Troops, Rifle troops and Continental troops… VA., Charlesdton, Bulford’s/Waxhalls, Kings Mountain, Cowpens, Guilford Courthouse and battles up north early in the war. Many died of disease, and killed in battle. My other side of the family during the same time lived in Montgomery County, then pioneers with Daniel Boone and with George Rogers Clark.
Now understand about a comment on blinkoncrime, years ago that many married cousins west of Charlottesville. Guess that was OK during the 18th century.
Have always wanted to attend UVA, but now I do via the internet. However, would never be there as a senior or a young lady with all the reported crimes unless I had a permit to pack. Why don’t these girls learn to travel in twos? Cell phones don’t protect.
These disappearances and murders just give a bad name to the university and areas of very nice, patriotic people and beautiful landscapes. Perhaps it is time to get a citizen’s militia going to get things solved. Too many leads in the last few years and no one caught.
Saw Police Chief Longo on the news and glad he showed resolve and guts. I sure may LE in Morgan’s case felt the same way, but always had the feeling the “something smelled in Denmark” and their hands were being tied by someone and/ or some institution. Also, tourism is important to the area, so hope this wasn’t the factor in any of the cases. Would think crimes being solved would help.
I cringe whenever I see girls/women walking down the street with earplugs and opening themselves to getting mugged, kidnapped and/or killed.
Blink, what was the name of the book you recommended on safety that we all should read? Thanks, I wish to read it; give it to a girl that I am mentoring then donating to our local HS library.
Thanks all, keep up the Good Works,
Love, IBE
Hi IBE!
The Gift of Fear, Gavin DeBecker
B
Did POI just come into police station to taunt the cops? That’s pretty weird. Also, if his impounded vehicle has any of Hannah’s DNA inside does that mean he will be arrested? He did say they went their separate ways upon leaving bar. If he is arrested, will his grandmother, mother’s homes and vehicles be searched. Surely, this guy’s friends are scratching their heads. I would be and I’d be straining by brain looking back at odd incidents, comments or changes in behavior.
Not weird, strategic. Except for the speeding away part- that was just plain stupid. Now he has VSP up his *ss.
B
That siezed car looks like it has been driven over some rough and uneven terrain at some time(s) in the past. Predominant damage around the bottom, not much higher up.
I watched the news conference, When they asked for people to check their property for tire tracks — I got chills. There seems like there are some similarities between this case and another case.
Praying that Hannah Elizabeth Graham is found. Prayers for all friends and family involved.
@ texas grandfather, there is no evidence that she was provided or served alcohol at tempo. Tempo is a restaurant so she could have had a coke. Also grandma says that he bought her “drinks.” 1) that is a third or fourth hand account, not an admission by matthew, and 2) “drinks” does not necessarily mean alcohol. So no charges for serving/providing to underage person at this point.
If there is evidence that Hannah was in this guys vehicle then I think that evidence alone, based on statements the POI made to family members, is enough for arrest and dare I say possible conviction.
This guy was the last known person to have been seen with Hannah, I think he`s hiding something.
I think the forensics may aid this investigation and of course open up some new warrants- like a buccal swab.
I can’t imagine that Chief Longo has any doubt about his involvement given his statements- makes me wonder what they are holding back.
B
Still observing this case intently. I truly hope and pray that A Texas Grandfather is right about the possibility of human trafficking (which at this point would likely be BEST CASE SCENARIO for precious Hannah. Not wanting to be a “Debbie Downer” but my gut tells me otherwise. I somehow always, always thought Elizabeth Smart was still alive and was beyond overjoyed to hear that she was indeed found alive after falling into the hands of a deviant crackpot and his sinister lady friend . God’s grace prevailed in that case and a sweet, intelligent victim was saved.
We read now and then about saved captives who were held in basements.
If Hannah could only be so lucky.
My gut tells me that Charlottesville and surrounds face a much deeper evil. There is without a doubt an angry and cunning sociopath loose who is very possibly a serial killer and UNDOUBTEDLY is a serial rapist. He MOST LIKELY utilizes rohypnol or similar to incapacitate some of his victims. He as well as others possibly are using this drug extensively in the area. I have heard of alarming use in DC where college girls (two at a time) in bars have been drugged and moved from one location to another and “gang raped” by multiple older men before being saved.The “save” in an unpublished case I am personally aware of was based solely on the power of FIND MY FRIENDS app for an iPhone and a proactive, intelligent college-aged friend/ roomie who acted quickly and did everything right.
Victim found in CVille assaulted// blacked out two days after Hannah went missing is a prime candidate for being “drugged/raped.” Serious sexual deviants/predators can rape many times (often unreported) and can kill a small portion of their victims – as witnessed in other cases.
Morgan Harrington’s killer is a proven angry sadistic psychopath/ sociopath who rapes. Many who follow this blog intently and reverently are praying that by God’s grace this thorough and timely investigation into Hannah’s disappearance will solve other mysterious cases and maybe- just maybe- Morgan’s case.
It is VERY TELLING when someone who has been arrested for “indecency” is also arrested for other crimes that show LACK OF ANGER MANAGEMENT SKILLS.
I’m reminded of one very “well-liked”, charming and good-looking Joran Vandersloot who is sitting in an Andes prison and who has LIED LIED LIED and MANIPULATED MANIPULATED MANIPULATED and CHARMED CHARMED CHARMED all the while leaving the family of Natalie Holloway was NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING.
No care at all – not an iota- for his victims, no care at all for the families of his victims- a self- centered egotistical and angry ball of conceit. I will echo Chief Longo here. I’m SOLD. He has made NO MISTAKE HERE, my gut tells me fervently that they have the RIGHT GUY. Think Joran. Charming. Think how he alluded prosecution for years and after several moves and kept up his arrogant manipulation.
God bless the investigators who are working to find Hannah and prosecute her kidnapper. We are hanging on to the hope of justice here. We collectively and wholeheartedly need them to solve this mystery.
Every parent or a responsible sibling of a teen or college-aged daughter should have the FIND MY FRIENDS app on their iphone . It’s a strong safety net. RAT and other deviants will destroy/ smash phones but rapists/ date-rapists who are NOT killers most probably won’t destroy them. OVER 25% of college girls are assaulted / date-raped. Disgusting, shocking and true. The “hook-up” society has made this an easy game as girls freely go to boys dorm rooms and frat house rooms. Good girls drink excessively and sometimes to “black out” stage with booze alone. They are encouraged often by other girlfriends and sorority sisters to overdue to dangerous excess. This dangerous behavior is very sadly the new norm. I opened the news last night to read about a college-aged girl who fell ten stories to her drunken frat party death in Tempe, AZ and a “color coded” date rape drug conspiracy within a U of Wisconsin fraternity. It’s nationwide.
High school girls (think Steubenville) are being assaulted at alarming/ growing rates too. We as a society are failing our children. Let’s collectively wake up and smell the coffee. We are failing our kids miserably and something needs to change drastically. We should be HORRIFIED when a high-school or college-aged girl is found naked and blacked-out/ likely assaulted yet we are starting to shrug it off as “normal” unless they truly go missing. I see it in Charlottesville and I see it in colleges throughout the US. The tide has got to turn.
I wonder if the dreads are a wig.
I asked the same question the other day- some sort of hair-dini thing? Does not look like it to me but dunno.
So I googled and apparently there are several dread wig options. Would explain the whole shaved head/dreads discrepancy.
B
Even if Hannah’s DNA is found in JM’s car or on his white shorts/shirt he is seen wearing in the Mall video, what does it mean? The video shows JM touching Hannah with his arm around her as they walk.
Hannah’s DNA would be expected to be found on these items.
Depends on the origin of the sample, but he has admitted to being with her, however, he had denied she was in the vehicle which we now know they have video evidence of her in it so I expect to hear her DNA was present. If they recover blood evidence consistent with some sort of violent act, it starts the basis for future charges. Additionally the location of DNA and the origin as they relate to WHERE they might be located within the vehicle- as in, trunk, under a wheel well, tools, that sort of thing.
I read an article this morning that his car was actually parked on the mall and not in front of the house. That’s investigatively interesting to me.
He is 6’2″ and Hannah is 5’11″ and physically strong. I don’t expect to hear that she was assaulted in that vehicle and if she had been I suspect that the field testing would have been immediate. Seeing the vehicle now, it does not appear that anyone cleaned the interior.
B
FWIW, I think they have at least one witness who saw her in the orange car thus the warrant for the car. I think it never occurred to him that he was on surveillance video. I think when the news reports initially surfaced about the video and there was no real interest in him, he felt comfortable. That also explains the lack of contact with LE by his friends and family—this all happened fairly quickly and the local reporting has been slow and not always accurate. I think he was surprised when they knocked on his door and did not believe he was capable of being caught. And in fact, absent that surveillance video, I think his belief would be justified. I do not think anyone at Tempo would have put the pieces together without the video because he was the more recognizable one. I think they found something very compelling in the car and have not, and will not, release it. I think the identity of the two people in the apartment is important. I think when the whole story unravels, it is going to be heartbreaking all the way around.
The warrants are sealed yet Longo quite literally baited the media to dig up Matthew’s name, confirmed it, and publicly stated that forensics were not back from either S&S execution. I do not think that if there is anything compelling in the car they are aware of it, but I do think they have a cooperating witness supplying information like an ex girlfriend or extended family member.
His knowledge of the wooded areas and rural stretches across at least 3 counties by my estimation, but his car looks less than access friendly for the terrain. He was seen with her publicly by multiple witnesses so either he is a psychopath or this was unplanned and he would have been in panic mode.
No access to alternative vehicle, unskilled offender and panic mode (if no help) will ultimately make it easier to find her if he transported her in that car. She will be close to the road, like a ditch, train tracks or roadside body of water like a retaining pond, train tracks- something to make it look like she died accidentally.
If he has a rural hangout, which I suspect, than the best chance LE has is to know as much about his access as possible and check the outbuildings to include mobile homes, etc. Might seem an odd thing to say but he has a few friends that look similar to him- I would check their properties as well.
Longo is right. People know this guy really well, and need to contact LE with any information that might lead to Hannah’s recovery.
Yes, it is heartbreaking and Cville has a definite problem of pandemic proportions on their hands, imo.
B
Anyone have a link to a picture of LJM’s father? Wonder what his hair looks like?
No, but interestingly he was charged on the 18th for driving with a revoked license.
Looks like maybe they executed a few warrants.
B
Redrock, I hear you. My first thought when I heard Longo speaking was “Okay, buddy, you aren’t running for Mayor here.” lol But I really do appreciate the relatively open stream of information and his obvious respect for the public’s help in finding Hannah. He clearly cares a lot about doing his job well. And if he can catch Sketch, I will frame a picture of Longo and hang it on my wall.
Hoping today is the day Hannah comes home to her parents.
Yep, chief-crush up in here.
B
Blink, there is a picture on line of Jesse Mathew with very short hair and a goatee. It’s a full on face shot instead of the angled one circulating the web. I downloaded it to compare to Sketch and I can sure see a resemblance, especially in the eyes. Very long link to picture is here: https://www.google.com/search?q=jesse+matthew&client=opera&hs=J6Q&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=NDIgVPXBLs2jyAS4gIKoBw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1600&bih=764#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=1_1zzvha4Fq9MM%253A%3BwnYUOKesDIR8ZM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwvir.images.worldnow.com%252Fimages%252F4796565_G.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.nbc29.com%252Fstory%252F26588920%252Fhannah-grahams-parents-make-emotional-plea-for-help-from-community%3B520%3B292
I have been following this case from the beginning and I followed Morgan’s extensively. I feel like its so hard for me to separate the two and actually analyze anything with Hannah because i keep wondering how i could link it back to Morgan in my brain. Is anyone else having this same problem? Like, I saw the poi picture and thought “maybe it’s not him bc he doesn’t really resemble sketch.” I know this is completely non constructive thinking and doesn’t add much to the discussion but i just needed to share this somewhere bc my husband thinks I’m insane!
IMO – It is a fundamental policing mistake when seeking vital information from the African American community to ignore the influence that a pastor, church laity, mentors and family can bring to bear. It is exponentially more productive than in the Caucasian or Latino communities. I hope they have dash cams or a radar clock to make the reckless driving case. Otherwise, it frankly looks a little petty. If it was an unmarked chasing him, he might have feared for his safety and not have known who was following him.
If this is poorly handled from here on out, CPD is inviting a visit from Rev. Al.
Don’t even jest such things- but I do agree with you entirely on the way to engage what may seem like non-cooperating family members that are intertwined with a strong spiritual community and circle. I actually believe that is why Longo was so forthcoming yesterday- he wants them to know what LJ told LE and then likely them, is refuted by video evidence so far, at a minimum. Longo does seem to be pretty sure he either confided in someone or had some sort of help ( I note his father was charged with a few traffic offenses on 9/18). I also note his earlier inferences to Hannah “walking with purpose- not sure what that meant. For me, the way the video looked to me, it was like he passed her on the opposite side, recognized her, turned around and headed toward her to end with his arms around her waist does not seem like a chance meeting of 2 strangers who end up at Tempo for a few drinks.
Lastly- I do believe there is dash cam evidence to support the reckless driving charges, and I also believe the reason that he went to LE in the first place was to complain that he was being tailed so I doubt the fear of an unmarked vehicle ( it was announced loosely at the 1st press conf that he was under Cville’s watchful eye) is a usable argument.
B
ATG-
About the alcohol-
She was already drinking earlier if they went after Tempo and POI for supplying this wouldnt they need to look into and go after the persons or establishment that gave her enough alcohol previously in the night that resulted in her being “fairly well intoxicated” before the POI ever came into the pic?
and are we sure Hannah did not portray herself as older or didnt have a fake id?
AJMO peace
@ dda says:
September 22, 2014 at 7:47 am
Good points
@ sunshine says:
September 22, 2014 at 10:30 am
I think yr thoughts are Quite constructive
Yes its hard to separate them for me too
If POI is not Sketch then we still have Sketch being seen in the weeks before Hannahs disappearance and before 2 girls were assaulted in the area -
There are a bunch of possibilities- I hope LE ruled out all of them
or it will be a defensive lawyers dream to bring up all “overlooked” Potential BGs before making a beeline for their “innocent” client
AJMO Peace