Kyron Horman Missing Case: Terri Horman Breaks Her Silence In People Magazine Interview

New York, NY-  For nearly five and a half years Terri Horman has refused to speak publicly about her step-sons case.  Outside of one assertion of her innocence while on the stand in a name change hearing she ultimately was denied, Horman did not speak to any reporters or answer any of their questions regarding Kyron Hormans disappearance. Until Now.

Horman courtesy of People

Horman was interviewed by People Magazines Elaine Aradillas for both the print and online editions,  and will be doing a series of personal interviews over the next week, to include wwww.blinkoncrime.com.

In the brief online video excerpt , the second part to air on ABC’s Good Morning America Friday morning,  Horman  maintains she is deaf in her left ear, a critical factor in the outcome of her first polygraph.

“… At what point are Kyron’s biological parents going to realize I don’t have the answers, they need to change this thing around…”

“…There is so much the public is not being told about this investigation, that’s why I am doing this- nobody is looking for Kyron…”

Horman’s interview drew sharp reactions from Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, Kyron’s parents.

“…Why is she silent for 5 1/2 years if she is innocent.  I want her to tell me where Kyron is.  If she is innocent she should call Multnomah County Sheriffs Office and sit down for an interview…”-  Desiree Young

“Hi friends. Yes I am well aware of the tabloid journalism piece in the media today. FYI – there will be more of the same coming Friday
We have a HOST of MCSO and FBI investigators STILL standing by with interviews and polygraphs when someone actually wants to cooperate. FEEL FREE TO STOP BY THEY ARE WAITING!! STILL!! Until then we’ll stick with the scores of people with valid/accurate information and the failed polygraphs as the only actual actions taken to-date.  To all of you: how about not linking the article/interview?
REMEMBER KYRON?!?!? This is what we need to be focused on!!
Love you Kyron!!” – Kaine Horman post on his Facebook Page

Christina Stoy, www.blinkoncrime.com Editor In Chief was able to confirm with Ms. Horman directly that she has been willing to meet with Kyron’s investigators both previously and in the future with the sole provision that it be conducted in the presence of her Attorney,  Portland criminal defense lawyer Stephen Houze.

Horman went on to say that investigators with the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office have been well aware of “that” over the last five and a half years and they have never requested an interview.  Um, What?

Horman reveals some shocking details about the subsequent polygraphs examinations referenced by Kaine Horman and Desiree Young and other allegations of improper tactics on behalf of MCSO in the second half of her interview to air tomorrow morning on abc’s GMA and on Nightline.

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4,701 Comments

  1. T. Ruth says:

    The quiet sink prohibition is the latest example of the school district struggling under Superintendent Carole Smith to communicate vital information, even when withholding it might compromise children’s safety.

    http://www.wweek.com/news/2016/06/08/portland-public-schools-failed-to-warn-parents-about-its-prohibition-on-drinking-from-sinks/

    Unbeivable, but I would suggest this is not the first time information was withheld by Smith, et.al., that might comprise children’s safety. How about information withheld by PPS regarding the events of June 4, 2010? Hmmmm?

    What is wrong with the parents up there? Demand answers, get rid of Smith, an ineffective school board, and anyone else who covers up crap to save their own asses.

    Does lead in the water make one paranoid and deceptive? Sheesh!

  2. Rose says:

    p26 keefer in beaverton 2002
    title 1 summer school mgr
    http://www.whatkidscando.org/archives/whatslearned/NRELreport.pdf
    is it possible that a former student or parent followed his career?

  3. cd says:

    Malty says:
    June 10, 2016 at 1:08 am
    @Rose. Does that fund for searches ever change. It seems like it is always in the 33,000 range And are any searches planned.
    ——–
    Here is my understanding of how Gofundme works.

    Gofundme is an online fundraising web site. Gofundme is not meant to be an ongoing charity site. People are supposed to ask for monies for a specific cause then like say $20,000 for a special wheel chair. When the goal of $20,000 is reached and the purchase of said wheelchair complete then the Gofundme page is removed.

    The amount of monies you see on the site is the total that has been donated so far. The amount that has been spent so far or changes in the total that Kelley has are not displayed because its not the amount of money Kelly has but its what has been donated so far.

    It will be interesting if and when the donated amount reaches the requested goal of $50k if Gofundme will shut down her page because her stated goal has been reached.

    So anyway even though the Gofundme total says $33k there could actually be very little money left in the fund for searches.

    Ms. Ramirez addressed this in a letter on the site I believe. Ms. Young has worked in finance/accounting for years- if she wanted to provide an accounting of the monetary gifts she has received she most certainly could. Any charity in Oregon must be listed- and as such must indicate what, if any, portion of a donation is tax deductible. Food for additional thought- what would one think of someone taking in donations without specifically indicating they are NOT tax deductible to the giver, the recipient is NOT required to claim them but can deduct same as a charitable gift when paying an actual charity or foundation? Yeah, not bad, huh?
    B

  4. Rose says:

    May 2 2010

    100 members of Sunset along with additional Skyline constituents were not only outside but inside the school, in every nook and cranny.
    Did Keefer PPS screen those 100 onsite volunteers fir SOs?
    Were Teri/Kyron volunteering at this event?
    http://www.oregonlive.com/north-of-26/index.ssf/2010/05/sunset_presbyterian_volunteers_number_1600_for_wide-reaching_sunday_cleanup.html
    “Ben Keefer,  principal of Skyline Elementary School, where volunteers did landscaping projects, painted, cleaned out an underutilized storage area, broke apart unwieldy items for the trash and installed new benches, said this in his weekly bulletin:
    “There is no doubt that this past week was one full of activity, but nothing in recent memory approaches what happened on Sunday. We were sponsored by Sunset Presbyterian for a volunteer event that was truly amazing. Over 100 volunteers from the church combined with many Skyline families to work a miracle of sorts on our school.”

    I know these seminaries & love Young Life but iirc there was a split at Sunset with RK having to leave (reasonably
    due to allegedly being a one man show personality-cult type).
    http://portlandcommunitychurch.org/the-team/ron-kincaid/
    it could be the Kyron candlelight service was held at Sunset in hopes SZ might appear.

    a reviewer after my own heart
    “the church recently suffered a schism of sorts when its pastor of 29 years, Ron Kincaid, left under what were apparently unpropitious circumstances. As a consequence of that upheaval, some 1000 of the church’s members have ceased attending the church.
    Read more at http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/yearofsundays/2011/03/oh-the-places-youll-go-when-you-join-sunset-presbyterian.html#HAWkdHBmC3qMzegb.99

  5. MockingbirdSings says:

    Regarding end of the school year – remember Portland is overflowing with
    tourists from all over the world for the Rose Festival/Parade and other events including the Navy fleet, etc. Easy not to be noticed, and to come and go from the area. Could easily be locals out for themselves or to make a “sale”. Could be anything, could be nothing, but the city setting itself is rather like a giant science fair atmosphere for 3-4 weeks.

  6. Rose says:

    I have been so blessed listening to Ali’s eulogies, esp the man just finished he called “little brother,” a Jewish man & Ali raised funds for a Performing Arts project at Hebrew U in Israel. The eulogizer’s family published Billie Holiday’s “Strange Fruit.” I am sorry I paid this man Ali no attention.
    wrt to the Vietnam War, he was truly a Conscientious Objector, with a conscience, no matter what the cost. If other young black men had done the same, the war would have ended sooner.

    I cannot understand why DY uses as her Mouthpiece/Rabble Rouser someone with the reasoning ability & IQ of a gnat….unless she herself lacks wisdom, discernment, and sound judgment.

  7. Rose says:

    really Soldier just makes Desiree look bad.
    and leadership bankrupt.

  8. Rose says:

    very interesting that Don Rees showed up in person at Desiree-Soldier’s 6/4/15 event.
    http://radionewz.net/#article/44721

  9. Rose says:

    have you an explanation for why Underhill approved that one Blink?
    And he said nothing when Desiree accused DDS.

    He said plenty, just not publicly.
    B

  10. Rose says:

    And while I’m asking Qs, do you think SZ has inserted himself in this case?
    ie by being an affirmer of misdirection on the HCrater site?

    No idea.
    B

  11. Rose says:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding.com
    interesting business
    Did this business have a distribution network in Portland in 2010?
    say thru gyms?
    Calling the DEA.

  12. Rose says:

    Blink your profile posited SZ possessed a high level computer ability (ie coding)
    coupled with a limited internet public presence.
    But a HC’s possibilities to insert might be psychologically seductive.

    Depending on the language, coding is a very advanced skill very little IT peeps have without specificity as to SQL, C++, Java- and so on.
    My profile had more to do with the possibility of exposure and or knowledge of TOR based DB’s based on other Empirical factors of “a sexually motivated offender who abducts”. Which I should add, is a working theory by exclusion.
    B

  13. Rose says:

    oops Bodybuilding has already been
    fined by the govt for steroid distribution.

  14. Rose says:

    @Blink. DidTerri speculate on or name any coding friends of Kaine’s to rule out?
    especially anyone coding for a steroid distributor?
    No
    B

  15. Rose says:

    So if I was an FBI hdqtrs hotshot, I’d troll online “gamers”
    of the Horman “family” with a coding background.
    Kidnapping a gamers son, for a sociopath,
    would be the ultimate gaming challenge imo.
    Does Terri know who was on WoW with Kaine?
    Do you think happless mcso ran the gamer isps?
    Any in the steroids online sales business?

    Yes, as do I, at least the members of his gaming group.
    Doubtful
    No connection I am aware of.
    B

  16. Rose says:

    ot
    the eulogist who so impressed me today was apparently Billy Crystal,
    who had an historic “roast,” earning him the sobriquet “little brother” from Ali.

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/watch-the-famous-billy-crystal-15-rounds-roast-of-muhammad-ali-you-should-check-out/amp/?client=safari#

    I

  17. MockingbirdSings says:

    Was going back through some past comments and googling and ended up with this collection -
    http://www.pps.k12.or.us/schools/skyline/160.htm Joe Keefer is now (2015-2016) head custodian at Skyline School. If that was mentioned before, I missed it. He, of course, is Ben’s brother. For me, there’s some discomfort with that, but for no real reason I can think of. He may not be a person of interest, but I do find him an interesting person.
    In the past, Joe has been discussed here, for example:

    erose says:
    July 8, 2015 at 6:03 am
    Joe Keefer @Janitor_Joe
    I like meeting new people, and finding old friends! I’m a car guy. I love auto racing, MMA, vintage and classic cars, Beer, and many other things.
    Portland, Oregon
    Joined Linkedin June 2011
    and -
    erose says:
    July 8, 2015 at 6:14 am
    1996 DUI, Hit & Run and not sure what he was arrested for in 2000.
    http://openpasts.com/publicrecord/joseph-keefer/15051818232515158
    http://openpasts.com/publicrecord/joseph-keefer/15051819575318298
    http://mugshotsearch.org/joseph+keefer+multnomah+county+oregon/1506010033385513
    continued – re “type of person” -
    erose says:
    July 8, 2015 at 6:30 am
    Not implicating Joe Keefer, but he brings up a type of person who might pull off an abduction of a child at school. Someone who might be seen as a kind of fixture, someone that pops in and out and is related to a staff member. (Mother is a teacher, etc. visits her often, shared transportation, scenarios like that. Someone who is there, but not really there. Maybe someone employed by PPS, but is not really on duty, doesn’t work at Skyline, his wife does, for example. Someone thought to belong, but really has no business being there. Someone in and out and if the staff member were aware of their presence at Skyline that day might not bring up their name to LE; 1) they wouldn’t want to implicate their relative or 2) don’t want to face what their relative might have done.

    ALSO –
    Joe Keefer makes comments on the PEPP FB page
    https://www.facebook.com/ParentsForExcellentPortlandPrincipals/
    Here’s one re lead testing:
    Joe Keefer – It’s great that testing and monitoring will be required. Without requirements to fix the problems it won’t help much.
    I really hope the public follows through with a push for a change in leadership. June 7, 2016

    He seems a bit more outspoken than his brother.

  18. Rose says:

    Imo if SZ fits Blink’s profile (computer savy)
    there is NO chance he has not been following
    both the investigation and its commentary on line.
    —–
    given Blink’s profile Idk why it never occurred to me SZ might have
    been a coder with a
    temporal lobe weakness (impervious to social adjustment issues)
    and linked to steroid distribution in some way. It took a Soldier Associate’s
    verbosity to wake me up. And I can see a Gamer questing for Kyron.
    —-
    imo iDY’s Teri myopia may have led to consorting with, & relying on,
    the fundraising of, someone whose site may have hosted her son’s abductor.

    —–

  19. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Rose

    Although some coaches do have to teach regular classes in smaller schools, I have only known one who really was able to teach it. A baseball coach who was a top level algebra teacher. All the freshmen and juniors wanted to take his class.

    History and geography today have fallen on bad times because they no longer teach it with meaning. Learning a large number of event dates is not history. The stories and facts are what are important. The stories of how and why things happened as well as what is history.

    Challenge: If you were given a test where all you had was the physical shape of countries around the world with 45 as the total number,how many could you correctly identify?

    Computer coders are a different breed. They just don’t behave the same as other people. IMO some are off the charts nuts regarding ordinary social behavior.

    There are actually three or four levels of programming with the toughest work being low level languages where one has to know how the machine actually works. Scripting languages such as Java are the easiest. Language design falls into the same level as the low level languages. Real time systems are often time constrained so that assembler code which is the fastest code is required for those activities.

    The C language which was developed at Bell labs is often used for a lot of development. The designers mad it possible to create libraries of common routines to speed up the work and to have tested code segments ready to work. They also allowed for hooks to assembly routines where speed was required.

    In my past professional life in the Fortune 100 IT consulting field- we used every sort of top tier coding and scripting asset- in the US, these folks are hard to come by in terms of other classifications and at the time (1990-2002, 2006-2007) our clients were bringing them in on VISA. 9/11 for obvious reasons changed that process as well as advances in technology so much of that work is done via offline intranet development portals, etc. Folks with those creds do not get laid off or have a lack of work, period. Coding in gaming is also a very different animal than OS code.

    Simply put- for the most part I never encountered a coder (floabt) that was not more comfortable in front of a computer than around people in general. I always thought if one was pretty social they would not likely be drawn to that work in the first place. It is my belief that someone like that who included the potential for deviant and/or criminal behavior would stand out, given the opportunity. They are incredibly difficult to catch as a result.
    B

  20. MockingbirdSings says:

    http://katu.com/news/investigators/first-parent-to-contact-pps-about-lead-in-water-this-year-speaks-about-ordeal 6-10-16

    snip
    “We decided to look into getting our water tested,” Donahue [parent, Green Team Chair, PTA member] told KATU. “We came across a document from 2001 on the PPS website with all the water quality data and several of our sinks and fountains had tested high at that time and there was no follow-up data. I was told that basically there wasn’t any plan to do any testing, that they spot test occasionally throughout the school district and they hadn’t found anything that had been above the levels set by the EPA.”

    HA! 2001! Did I not just tell you about my PPS “water history” decades ago? :)

    It’s like a game with a series of “can o’ worms” – if somebody ignored or closed a “can” years ago, YOU don’t want to be the one to open it, and how would you know which one to open first anyway (wait till you can’t avoid it)? THIS is why new supts and new board members and independent investigators don’t really fix anything – you have to have a prioritized list of “cans-in-hiding” (which is difficult since they are hiding), the resources and expertise to open and sanitize the contents, and the ability/authority to make sure nobody uses the “can” approach ever again.

    Lead in water is simply the contents of one can – I didn’t say they were small. I see the Hormon investigation as the contents of another one of the cans. It will be forced open one day, followed by a claim about protocols, etc. I know it sounds farfetched, even like a conspiracy thing, but I kid you not. One factor that makes it so tough to “win” this game is that the responsibility for sealing and avoiding entire cans of information belongs to so many different people and groups over the years and covers such a variety issues – testing, segregation, budget waste, hiring practices, and on and on. Creative record-keeping goes with it which makes it hard to track or prevent. Often it isn’t intentionally poor management at many levels – you play the hand you’re dealt and sometimes you lose never knowing quite what hit you.

    After all my complaints about PPS, I sound like I’m trying to make excuses now, but that’s not my intent. Those who take on the leadership of such a ship had better know how to keep it afloat even when it leaks. This ship is full of children and hardworking employees and is fueled by tax dollars – and definitely deserves a better fate.

  21. erose says:

    o/t given our feelings about (people like) her defendant, I could not help but post this. It is on Snopes, and they have investigated it as a mixture of truth and fiction. You be your own judge, of course.
    http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/

  22. MockingbirdSings says:

    Rose says:
    June 10, 2016 at 5:21 pm

    I have been so blessed listening to Ali’s eulogies, esp the man just finished he called “little brother,” a Jewish man & Ali raised funds for a Performing Arts project at Hebrew U in Israel. The eulogizer’s family published Billie Holiday’s “Strange Fruit.” I am sorry I paid this man Ali no attention.
    wrt to the Vietnam War, he was truly a Conscientious Objector, with a conscience, no matter what the cost. If other young black men had done the same, the war would have ended sooner.
    —————————–
    Thanks for your comment Rose. I was born the same year in the same town and kept track of his life beginning with his Golden Gloves awards as a kid. Boxing wasn’t my thing, but I never believed that boxing defined him as a person. I respected and learned from him. He was an actor in a movie almost nobody ever heard of but I think it’s still available if you hunt. “Freedom Road” based on the book by Howard Fast, I believe. It’s worth watching if only to view another side of him and the history involved. Unfortunately the later DVD version is about 90 minutes and the original story on VHS was twice that. Ossie Davis and Kris Kristofferson were also in it.

  23. Malty says:

    @Rose. Your posts on the school lead are upsetting I really think PPS needs a whole new Admin
    I can hardly believe how little concern they have for the children Not safety. Not health
    Thanks for keeping a eye out for info on this lead problem

  24. Malty says:

    @CD Thanks for explaining how that Go Fund works As I understand you are saying if they ever reach goal
    50,000 It will be closed And the total is what has been received not actual balance
    If I got it right I really appreciate finally understanding. :)

  25. Malty says:

    I remember discussing
    This Jo Keefer ages ago Maybe we should have a closer look

  26. Rose says:

    vicki ibarra was at Skyline when the 2015-16 handbook was printed.
    For a long tome kenny moylan was head custodian & she was evening custodian.

  27. Rose says:

    ot here’s a twitter to observe Malty:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/741590381503086592
    and janitor_joe has two accounts.
    the real Sam Adams is among the small group
    of followers on both.

  28. Rose says:

    @Malty. Imo Joe is just a hardworking good ol boy.
    Adams following him does seem unusual.

    Here’s another twitter for you Malty, Jack Bog.’s
    https://mobile.twitter.com/bojack54/status/737813598542536705
    I was reminded of him when he recently put a comment on WW/Kitz right after VWoolfe.
    He went ballistic on the Supe on June 1&2 saying take yer PERS and run.

  29. Rose says:

    kenny and vicki went back together at Skyline to 2007 anyway.
    I wonder how and when S Masic got mixed in there for awhile. He is
    still at Portland schools.

  30. T. Ruth says:

    http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2016/05/09/18037459/deputy-sheriffs-union-votes-no-confidence-in-dan-stanton-says-sheriff-threatens-to-sue-anyone-who-turns-their-back-on-him

    Older article that I missed. I hadn’t seen this (5/9) letter from the DSA saying that the Sheriff had changed his designee replacement several times during the past month (of April), also saying he would sue anyone who went against him. Maybe I just missed this.

  31. Rose says:

    I see why you posted that erose. She laughed about polygraphs saying since her defendant passed one, she no longer believed in them. A professionally executed reluctant representation, if you ask me, and the 12 yo didn’t have to testify to secure a conviction.

  32. T. Ruth says:

    @MockingbirdSings says:
    June 11, 2016 at 12:19 am

    2001? Sheesh! Just like MCSO, no transparency. How on earth can anyone expect any public organization to run on the up-and-up if there isn’t someone in charge of public transparency. I was under the impression that’s what school board for PPS were supposed to be for and the same with the board of Commissioners for MCSO. And where in the heck has the media been all this time, asleep at the wheel or paid off? I just don’t get it, there should be some sort of oversight, particularly when we’re dealing with the safety and welfare of our children.

  33. T. Ruth says:

    @MbS

    Maybe the can of worms should be replaced with a can of whoop-ass.

  34. Rose says:

    ot @mbs. Here’s the latest kick the can as opposed to hide the can. And it is an old tin can. The
    Dem legislature and ultimately the Gov have legislation for voters to consider this fall to very significantly
    tax all corporations, driving small ones out of business and large ones out of the State.
    They are doing this for Education and health of course.
    However, Gov Kate’s version of education is to propose a new wave of vocational ed job training.
    Now I have no objection to that at the community college level for those who want it like Desiree’s son.
    But it has no place in K-12 acquisition of basic academic skills and applied thinking skills.
    Let those who want take the GED and go straight to a vocational school. But don’t confuse that with a
    high school diploma and curriculum. Anyway, to me the joke is after Kate’s training of those for vocational
    industry, the prospective employers will be re-incorporated elsewhere, and there will be high unenployment.

  35. Rose says:

    ot
    @atg All the HS Coaches & asst coaches who staffed our math classes in HS meant I could not achieve Algebra I in freshman College! However, I readily learned and thoroughly enjoyed
    MS/HS Alg honors I & 2, hon geom, AP precalc & calc to support my kids when given a decent curriculum in print.
    It is as much the District written curriculum as the teachers and imo that is where Multnomah Cty is a big fail.

  36. cd says:

    A Texas Grandfather says:
    June 11, 2016 at 12:03 am
    Computer coders are a different breed. They just don’t behave the same as other people. IMO some are off the charts nuts regarding ordinary social behavior.
    ————–

    After 25 years in the business sometimes consultant sometimes as an employee) I could list computer languages, scripting languages file systems, databases and interfaces all day that I have developed in. I have written a lot of code in many computer languages.

    I would also like to include that 3 of my children are Software developers/consultants(coders). Both my siblings my husband and most of our friends are software developers. None of us have temporal lobe weakness (impervious to social adjustment issues) the reason most of us have friends in the computer industry is that our conversations (which we think are very interesting) are really very boring to other people.

    Coding to me was fun like doing a crossword puzzle.

    I started developing/coding on mainframes(IBM System/370) in 1982 and retired in 2007 developing client server apps on Solaris, AIX and Windows. My first computer was an intel 8080 which I built and required machine language to do anything. I am down to 4 computers now 27″ iMac, Laptop, iPad and a PC.

    Just some of the languages i have /coded/developed in:

    COBOL
    Assembler
    Machine language
    Basic
    C
    C++
    Perl
    Visual Basic
    SAS
    C#
    JavaScript. ..
    PL/SQL
    SQL
    JAVA

    MVS/JCL
    IMS
    IMS DB/DC (worked also as an IMS DBA)
    CICS
    VSAM
    DB2
    Oracle ( I have also done admin work in Oracle building and maintaining
    Sequel Server
    databases)
    TSO/SPF
    Roscoe
    BASH (unix scripting)
    c-Shell
    Java Applets
    HTML
    Basic
    JDBC

    Windows OS2 UNIX AIX/ BM OS2/IBM 3270….. operating systems

    So many scripting languages I have difficulty remembering them

    IBM mainframes
    Solaris
    AIX
    LINUX
    .net frameworks
    SQL server

    Many of these older languages are still being used in business and colleges don’t teach them all. So currently there are job openings for old developers like me but I like retirement to much to go back to work even in a work from home situation.

    Just setting the record straight about software developers(as you would say coders).

    CD- Are those ALL the languages in your experience? Amateur.
    TEASING of course- and I hope you did not take offense to my personal experience and observations- and you hit the nail on the head re people without the sorts of skills and affinity for the diligence of your profession- “we don’t get it” but we thank god you do, lol.
    Many times in meetings I had to arrange coding talent presentations. I always had to say- leave the bits and bytes for your colleagues- these people want the head chef. Trust me, the joke was frequently on me/us- as I negotiated many of their hourly consulting rates.

    The context was such that I posited the possibility of a SZ being efficient in the ways of the web and we were just establishing I felt my reference had more to do with an individual who figured out TOR and encryption protocols which are often associated with deviant criminal profiles ( short version). I appreciate you sharing your personal perspective.
    B

  37. Malty says:

    @Truth
    I thought it was Rose posting about the lead in th school but now t see it was you. Anyway it was a good post
    About putting warning stickers on the sinks And never done
    I know you live south of Portland Are they having a lead problem also

  38. T. Ruth says:

    Did Kyron attend any car shows in the spring of 2010, shortly before his disappearance? Kaine doing all these car shows and drag races, why? Is it because they’d been attending many of them?

    Would be interesting if TMH could give us some of the activities Kyron either attended or participated in say, a two month period before he disappeared. If this child was being followed, which seems possible to me, maybe the man was some casual acquaintance that Kyron met at some sporting event, or some school function. I’m sure the FBI would have already done this though, right? Did they ask the bios to think back and let them know if any particular person may have shown special interest in him?

    Did and no. That said, TMH is on record re concerns for Kyron’s demeanor/behavior so it would be relevant as to origin.
    B

  39. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Blink

    I agree completely with your assessment of coders basic intelligence and their ability to study a problem and work out solutions. That to me is what makes them difficult to catch when they commit a crime. Their problem solving skills allow for mentally trying several modes of committing a crime and then playing a “what If” scene to expose the problem areas.

    If they are programming games, they must think of all possible situations and how to organize the code to handle them. They to me would be the most dangerous type of criminal..

  40. MockingbirdSings says:

    Rose says:
    June 11, 2016 at 7:45 am
    vicki ibarra was at Skyline when the 2015-16 handbook was printed.
    For a long tome kenny moylan was head custodian & she was evening custodian.
    —————————-
    I wondered why she didn’t become head custodian but Joe has experience as a head custodian in other schools, or maybe she prefers nights, or maybe the facility requires particular skills (we had a dickens of a boiler) or some other reason.

    Anyone know the identity of the custodian who did not return to Skyline in 2011 and was not on the list?
    B

  41. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Rose

    The level of work for a custodian can range from simple clean-up tasks to maintaining all the equipment. The old time custodians did it all. As a result, they knew every part of a building and what was in it.

    Today, with outside contractors, clean-up may be the primary tasks. The outside contractor would be charged with providing people for maintenance and repairs. This could be a different person for ordinary electrical, another for heating and air conditioning and still others for carpentry and plumbing needs. A lot of people that could be on the premises on a regular basis with little attention from staff and teachers.

    A lot of school districts do not contract the work and provide in-house people who work from a maintenance facility, moving from building to building making repairs.

    We did discuss at one time the contractor who was responsible for mowing the grass.

    Another area is bus drivers. Most districts have their own buses and provide drivers. This is an area of large turnover. I see signs on school district properties advertising for drivers year around. Small districts and private schools often contract with a commercial school bus company who provide buses and drivers.

    All of this adds up to a large number of people who regularly have access to a school property.

  42. Pansy says:

    @T. Ruth says: June 11, 2016 at 5:57 pm

    Did Kyron attend any car shows in the spring of 2010, shortly before his disappearance? ……Would be interesting if TMH could give us some of the activities Kyron either attended or participated in say, a two month period before he disappeared. If this child was being followed, which seems possible to me, ….

    ~~
    It’s possible there are only a few reasons for Kyron to disappear like that:
    1. Either someone was doing a vendetta against dad
    or
    2. This was totally random … someone grabbed him because it was easy to do at the time.
    or
    3. The mom is involved in some way that nobody knows about yet.

    The entire family situation seems so strange that all possibilities should be looked at, nothing assumed as to innocence of anyone, etc.

    My opinion only.

    I would add the open house was advertised on the Skyline Marquee for approximately 2 weeks prior to the event.
    B

  43. Rose says:

    PPS contracted out to a separate bus driving company.
    The mower was an employee of Portland Parks and Recreation.
    We know Skyline’s electrical equipment was too antiquated to
    be modifiable for solar panels and was housed in an outside barnlike structure.
    What was unique about Skyline is that it was the first school in Portland
    to “host” Bonneville Power’s Foundation and the lical rollout of their Solar for Schools
    which brought Bonneville’s electrical subcontractors onto school property and SforS’s employees
    into classrooms.

  44. Rose says:

    Blink, there was a custodian Salem Masic, who appeared to be quite a workaholic for the PTA Green team,
    who had transferred from Skyline to another school about Feb 2010 and thus since he no longer worked at Skyline, he was not on the list. He was brought back to help out Moylan after the abduction due to the increased workload. I think he might have been covering in 09-early ’10 while she was on
    leave for some reason. But he was not there in Fall 2010.

  45. Rose says:

    If the Hormans could not identify a local source for TMH’s concerns re K’s demeanor/behavior, the 1000 lb gorilla
    in the room is examining the Medford milieu as an origin. The FBI merely asking that line of questions would incense the Youngs imo and lend urgency to their id of TH as perpetrator.

  46. Rose says:

    @cd. wrt ” None of us have temporal lobe weakness (impervious to social adjustment issues) the reason most of us have friends in the computer” I myself didn’t posit this about coders but about SZ, a sociopath could be a coder, but Blink said her profile was specific to someone familiar with TOR. I too built my first computer from a Heathkit iirc in 1985, and in the early 70s after college graduation went to community college at night to learn coding.
    it was BASIC and card punching and too slow for me. Unfortunately I didnt stick with it. Congratulations on your achievements.

    Just to clarify my profile is based on what I would call a deviant sexual predator criminal pedophile and is based on study of the FBI protocol and training of same, which to my knowledge cannot be excluded as far as Kyron’s disappearance. I am only using known elements and information to base my opinion on this- which is for profile purposes of an unidentified offender seen by MULTIPLE witnesses. This type of crime can and has been committed by both sociopaths and psychopaths.
    B

  47. Rose says:

    @TRuth. I see where the Union alleged he changed his designee several times in April on p 4 of the letter
    http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2016/05/09/18037459/deputy-sheriffs-union-votes-no-confidence-in-dan-stanton-says-sheriff-threatens-to-sue-anyone-who-turns-their-back-on-him
    What is unclear is about the outsider he was seeking to hire (Reese). Due to the sentence structure the question is whether Staton’s allegedly contentious relationship was with Reese or with his former organization (PPB).

  48. Rose says:

    Someone interviewed on NPR recently said no one could diagnose Trump as a narcissistic
    personality disorder who had not examined & treated him as a professional, so he would limit
    himself to characterizing him as “psychological waywardness.” I kind of like that term. It fits the HC leadership when
    psychotic statements are made that on their face cannot be true. But if someone on the HC
    repeatedly shows leadership in advancing psychotic statements about TH, but is NOT psychologically wayward, what is his motive to direct the public to “Terri is guilty”? that someone is a senior software engineer, lived near enough to Skyline, with apparently a distance coding job in another State? Why would a coder make repeated accusatory statements of Terri on the HC? The motive is unlikely to be psychological waywardness.
    —–
    this out of state business is fascinating because it self identifies as the largest online seller of bodybuilding nutrition, hosts online social media networking for bodybuilding enthusiasts, paid at least one fine for steroid in some product.
    “An online reseller of health and nutritional supplements that also hosts Bodyspace, a social networking site for bodybuilding enthusiasts.”

  49. Rose says:

    http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com
    the social media platform; also sells product.
    there is apparently a phone appl
    that cannot be used offline then synced.
    I’d like to know from TH whether Kaine
    was involved in any of this business’ online social groups?

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